ELITE Justo Smart Trainer Update: Fast Track (10Hz) // Di2 Trainer Control // Total Distance
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 พ.ย. 2023
- Justo firmware v15 has landed with a few notable additions to this flagship interactive smart trainer from Elite. This video covers the three core updates and how to enable/configure them.
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JUSTO Full Technical Specifications:
● Direct Drive Interactive Smart Trainer (Rear wheel off).
● Bike compatibility: Quick Release 130/135. Native Thru-Axle 12x142. (148/157 available)
● Freehub Shimano/SRAM HG. (Aftermarket options: XD/XDR, MicroSpline, Campagnolo)
● No Cassette Pre-Installed.
● Connections ANT+ (Pwr/Spd/Cad), ANT+ FE-C, Dual Bluetooth Smart FTMS. Direct Connect (w/ Elite Gateway Ethernet)
● HR / Cadence Bridge Option.
● Power Accuracy: ±1.0 OTS (Optical Torque Sensor) power meter.
● Calibration: Automatic
● Grade simulation: 24%
● Max wattage: 2300W (@40km/h)
● Flywheel size/weight: 6.2kg
● Noise Level: Quiet... not silent.
● Power Source: Mains Power.
● Firmware Upgrades via Elite Upgrado App.
● Supplied with Front Wheel Riser Block
● Elite Rizer Support.
● Added: 10Hz Fast Track, Di2 Trainer Control, Total Distance (odometer)
NOTE: JUSTO Speed Sensor should be set to 215mm wheel size if pairing to a bike computer/GPS or watch for speed/distance recording.
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A firmware upgrade for Direto and Direto X would be very welcome
Excited for mine to arrive soon, so glad it will have fast track now. Have gotten so used to race mode just being the norm!
More things that make me want to offload my Tacx Neo 2T and get something with the latest features. Especially with my Neo reading 10% lower than my Assioma Duo and now the Wahoo SP Zero single sided pedals (couldn't pass up trying speedplay finally for $325USD).
Just got my Justo updated. Thank you for the video!
Great content lately 👏 👏 👏
Awesome stuff mate ✌️
Ah I thought my Direto-XT also received this too. Elite! Go on! I'm waiting patiently 🙄
Nice! Trainer control using the D-fly buttons sounds good! I'm at work now so haven't watched the video yet other than the first 15 seconds.... but I'd love to see that feature on other trainers too :)
My ©™® idea is to use the D-Fly buttons as smart fan control. That'd be ideal!
@@gplama and for ☕️!
Great to see Elite doing Di2 integration. My partner has a Zwift Hub one and the virtual gearing is great, but I found myself wishing that I could just use my Di2 controls instead of the Zwift ‘click’ remote. Hopefully this will push Garmin/Tacx and Wahoo to do this as well.
That would be excellent. I don’t think we’ll ever see that level of integration. That requires two companies to work together. Shimano is unlikely to come to the table.
I like the Justo heart rate and cadence bridge so only need to use one BT Channel on Apple TV. I have the Elite Justo, Rizer and Aria. Great combo.
yeah I had what seems to be an issue with my direto XR. The power kept yoyoing. My guess is that the setting for smoothness was set at 3 and perhaps it should be lower? I did a recalibration and using the newest firmware it seems to have fixed it but I think 10hz would help. Is there a guide for knowing how I should set that setting in the app? Also should I be calibrating with the app and then with Zwift as well or just Zwift? I heard you need to spin it up faster for that to work correctly?
Is there a noticable difference in noise in vibration between Justo and Direto XR and other similarly priced trainers?
The only thing I am really waiting is the virtual shifting implementation(s). I don't know how hard is to implement it, but does not sound that hard.
10hz mode unfortunately not on available the Elite Suito Trainers, but theres a new Firmware 197 since a month or so.
Waiting for big update for Tacx Neo 2T!
Long overdue.
Any idea if Tacx is planning a 10Hz transmission in the near future for the Neo/2/2T?
Garmin/Tacx have been very quiet for a long time. If they have anything new this year, they've missed the boat. Maybe next year?
Hey Shane, can I just ask you if you might know, my elite justo does not move from "waiting for the device screen" on the upgrado app. At first it find the trainer, then shows what version I need to upgrade and then just roling the screen 0% waiting for the device? Thank you for help
One for Elite support. Or maybe try the app on a different mobile device.
No update for me... Firmware 8, Hardware revision 1.
Solved, reinstaled mobil apk and update successful
Is anyone else owning a Justo having the dreaded and well-known flywheel wobble that already plagued the Elite Suito years ago? I'm expecting my third unit to arrive next week, the previous two Justos both had the flywheel wobble and in addition, hardware revision 2 seemed to have experienced a sharp drop in build quality (dents in the housing even under the paint, messed up edges on the body, rough paintjob, plastic splinters everywhere). I'm really saddened by this because feature-wise I think the Justo blows both the Tacx Neo 2T and the Kickr V6 out of the water.
One question Shane: My D-FLY buttons have already paired with the garmin unit. What is going on when I pair it with Justo also?
Both will function.
I bough my justo last year as new from big market and now checked odometer showing 31000km lool. I’m wondering if it’s some bug or what. The trainer was originally packed and no sign of usage. Really weird.
Epic kms! 🤣 I wonder if they set the wheel circumference correctly? (Similar to what we have to do when pairing the speed sensor on Elite trainers)
With this di2 integration, surely we can get virtual shifting down the line? Just discinnect the battery from the derailleurs 🤔
Shimano collaboration required. Chances of that happening, 🥶
Thank you for the video Shane--very helpful as always! I have a question---I want to fine tune the RD with the cassette on the trainer, just like I would if there was a rear wheel. I'm trying to figure out how to get the trainer into a free-wheeling mode where there is absolutely zero resistance, regardless of what gear the bike is in. I cannot find a way to do this. I even tried to custom program a TrainerRoad work out with a 1watt interval, but that doesn't work as evidence when you put the bike in the highest gear, you end up having to put down at least 150watts to get the pedals to move. Any suggestions?
You'll need an app/tool to put the trainer into SIM mode (TrainerRoad is ERG or level mode only iirc), and then set a negative simulated gradient. -10% should remove almost all resistance only leaving the flywheel/belt drag to push against.
@@gplamaThank you so much for responding so quickly Shane! Do you have any suggestions on what tool to use?
It depends what trainer you have. Are you using the Justo?
@@gplamaYes, I'm using the Justo, but with mechanical shifting.
The ELITE MyETraining App should have manual control mode for you to put it in SIM at -10%.
Just remember that Shimano 105 Di2 does not have those buttons on top of the hood.
It'd be interesting to know if you can still assign a D-Fly channel to any other button/switch.
@@gplama I don't know if this answers your question but if you run Shimano 105 Di2 in S2 mode, and do all your shifting with e.g. the right hand shifter, then you can assign the left hand shifter buttons to e.g. page through the screens on your head unit.
You can configure any of the buttons to do any of the options, even d-fly. So it might be a hassle to switch back and forth in the E-tube app but you could use any shifters.
So if Elite can do this why can’t we get race mode on our v5 kickrs? Is it Wahoo just trying to get people to upgrade?
There is race mode on the V5. But you have to use the ethernet adapter for it to work.
@@MrSuicyclemy point is Elite can do it over Bluetooth or Ethernet. That’s big. So why can’t my kickr v5 do race mode over Bluetooth? Is wahoo purposely making it only a Wi-Fi/Ethernet feature?
Yep agreed - the hardware is surely there, they simply want people to spend even more... Kudos to Elite on this aspect.
How would pain mode effect a Zwift Race?
It’d be like switching your trainer difficulty to 0. It’d be harder to produce watts. Not a wise move is the quick answer.
How does it decide what power to show to zwift when in pain break mode? Drop all watts and then hit pain break for a free 60s sprint finish? 😂
It still reports the watts you’re producing from the trainer.
Oh ok, how do you produce power if it cuts the resistance? Or does it pain-break just reduce the resistance to the natural level of the trainer, so you can’t produce big power. Confused.
@@richardelsdon2027 The latter. There will always be some kind of resistance with a trainer using a flywheel.
Maybe the kikr core will get 10hz since zwift is selling them...
And maybe virtual shifting… one day.