(Edit: "Perfect" Eula team for me doesn't mean perfect for you, and the thing I was referring to people being "mad" about was just that at a glance the team is just Eula hyperbloom, despite it very much de prioritizing the dendro dmg heavily) This is a good example of a team that is very strong, but probably not that worthwhile to invest in for its fragility/normal Eula issues. But it IS highly synergistic in allowing Eula to get big dmg, while letting you use her normal playstyle in far more situations. This abyss cycle is honestly really bad for Eula, but as you saw it still cleared without much issue, even with my bad play. High investment and unrelatable for sure, but I think some Eula mains go to greater lengths to use Eula than I did this video lol. And yes, this is more Hybrid Raiden propaganda lol, but I tried to keep the focus on Eula this video, even if in truth the spice of this team was that it was a dual DPS team. The bad play with not swapping to Raiden quickly after finishing Eulas combo was mostly on purpose because I wanted to make sure the Eula damage showed in the video, rather than just seeing it in the HP bar during Raiden's burst animation. Yelan is realistically a good option instead of using Furina C2 in the team btw. She buffs Eula a bit less, but it will be more survivable. Which is to say I'd say Nahida C2 and Hybrid Raiden using SoSS are realistically the main requirements to emulate this team, with Furina being the highest dmg potential but most replaceable option. For higher survivability it makes more sense to use Yelan compared to using Maidens on Nahida like I did this video, or you can use Furina on Deepwood like mentioned in video (but again I used Maidens on purpose to purpsefully remove a large chunk of the dendro dmg from the team as a way to better illustrate Raiden/Eulas dmg contribution).
I wouldn't call it Hybrid Raiden propaganda, personally, because I see using Raiden as yet another case of holding the team back to give Eula a chance to shine. By that, I mean a C2 Yae would be better than a C2 Raiden, due to Yae's range factor. Nahida, Yae, and Furina all reaching and touching will just obliterate everything. I know this, because Yae + Furina is the core of one of my two Abyss teams, and it does just that with Yaoyao as the dendro... and also when I leave the dendro at home ;) Using Furina, (C2) Yae, and Eula together, with a dendro, does have some value as well, as it allows Yae and Furina to clean up all the trash mobs that are a waste of Eula's burst, while Eula can then be saved to be a boss killer. However, the Abyss doesn't really toss lineups at us that favor that... we don't really get situations where first there a bunch of trash mobs, and then we get an actual high hp boss. Instead, the closest we tend to get is a bunch of trash mobs, and then a higher hp enemy with annoying mechanics like teleporting around (the maidens), big shields (lectors/heralds), or pets (the desert ones).
Yep I got quite excited when I realized Eula could be highly synergistic with Hybrid Raiden, even if the team was super high investment lol. I've still been using Hybrid Raiden a lot, just not shown in videos (I normally show little to none of the other side of abyss clears). I've kept her on her hybrid build permanently. Unlike most of my video ideas wherein I don't tend to use the characters as much after the video is done, hybrid Raiden is one I go back to :)
hey there, cool team!! just a little tip from a eula player: the two hits from the third NA count as one NA, so to do the combo properly you gotta do one more NA before the hold E. in addition to that, you need to wait a bit after her hold E deals its explosion damage to do more NAs because her stacks only register if there's an interval greater than 0.1s between the damage instances. hope i was able to articulate what I mean somewhat understandably!! you'll be able to get even bigger nukes if you do this :)
@@persephonehades7547 Or keep saving? I been saving for Yae Miko for 3 banners and she is C5 now......now i just need another re-run so she can finaly hit c6 lol.
@@Bullminator No shame in flexing, but it's a little foolish to assume I don't save my primos based off of these two comments. I do, and I was rewarded greatly for it too.
Healer Nahida is highly underrated in general just by putting Pamber on her. You dont lose much damage for using it on a normal build. Putting her on Maidens is obviously a bit more silly (if nobody else is on Deepwood at least), but as said in the video I did it for the very purpose of powering down the dendro dmg in the team a bit to put the focus on Eula/Raiden, plus to make the team less fragile. The part that I would be referring to this team making people “mad” is that this is technically just a very high investment variation of hyperbloom Eula that has far more synergy with Eula than Hyperbloom does without these constellations (the whole team is Unrelatable Eula btw, Genshin is a team based game, the functioning of a character is tied to the sum of the whole)
Haha thats praise I dont think Im that deserving of. R5 Amber on Furina gets over max fanfare because of the healing bonus Furina herself gives, actually. So I think only R4 Amber is required (or R1 with Maidens but as said in the video I don’t recommend maidens)
Eula was my first main - but I really don't want to pull Furina because support characters who's kits are as simple "press button, do more damage", and I don't want to pull Yelan because I don't find her kit "interesting", so do you think Xingqui is a workable substitute? Or would you recommend Mika (still C5, hunting for his C6...)?
Furina enables MH and buffs a bunch. If you already have a really good pale flame build, Yelan would be close to Furina I imagine, but XQ would not be buffing Eula at all. The team could still be more than functional, but Id expect a good 25% less dmg than my Eula got in this video (at least). XQ is a nice defensive option though. Many players can run healerless teams just by nature of XQs dmg reduction, but his role in this team would be for hyperbloom and not for buffing Eula is all
For her normal playstyle? Really its just that you gotta try to manipulate enemy movement to be able to have them grouped properly to execute Eulas combos. If you look up abyss guides for any particular version any good one should go over the ways to manipulate the enemy behavior to get them to group properly. From there its just playing Eula well Id think. But Ive not played with her more normal low investment teams, so I cant really give much more advice than that
I love Eula as character/design , but man her kit sucks , I tired to make her work but she just feels underwhelming and painful to play compared to some meta dps like navia neuvillette alhaitham ....
@@erronblack3462 yeah, these genshin players shit on characters that require some efforts and skill. All they want is to press 2 buttons and clear the room. That's why braindead chars as Newbillete, HuTao and Navia are rated so high.
I was almost mad until you mentioned you furina and Nahida were c2. The team would actually have been as optimal as Eula teams get if you gave raiden tenacity with EM/EM/EM and Nahida deepwood It seems like she still has the problem of being worse than c6 freminet at c0. She had no right to be so undertuned with so many problems
I think the Eula problem is just a early Genshin problem (minus the 4*'s, they're still broken to this day) cos they wanted to balance them around their kits, but didn't see the fact they're be undertuned or even unviable once another option released. And i'm saying 'early Genshin' cos by like mid to late Inazuma they thew that philosophy out the window cos Raiden was such a huge powercreep, especially at c2+. (yes it requires cons but the cons themselves were such a massive jump)
@@cheyanne2001 Hu Tao, Klee, Tartaglia, and Xiao are all great today, so that point doesn't hold up. To make Eula any competent nowadays you might as well increase her damage by 25%-100% and that still doesn't excuse all her gameplay issues
@@polychromaa yes, they all do hold up. Klee is a Burgeon gremlin, Hu Tao can use Furina to great effect, Childe has always been solid and Xiao was recently buffed with Xianyun. But I'm saying Eula, and specifically Physical is kinda in a rough spot, similar to Geo unironically. Yeah we got Freminet for Phys and Chiori and Navia for Geo, but they're all good *despite* being Geo. Not because they are Geo
Yeah, I dont disagree tbh. It's still kinda fun messing with her despite all her problems. Makes her more engaging to play sometimes I think, kinda in the same vein as Dehya.
@@polychromaaEula's problem isn't her damage. It's always been fine. Even robots are easy to crush, thanks to the amount of -phys resists. She has three main issues. The first is shields. Best way to counter them is elemental application, and characters related to phys tend to have bad elemental application, while superconduct pushes phys into cryo and electro, hindering teaming options. The second is the nature of her burst. A lot can change in 6s, and furthermore, the more you amp up Eula's and/or the team's (off-field) damage, the worse this gets, as you destroy mobs to such a point that it is a waste of energy to use the burst on more and more of them. And that leaves the third factor, that anemo doesn't do much for phys, so you are less likely to have a grouper. This is all why Mika is such a bad physical support character for Eula and phys in general. He buffs what Eula doesn't need, but does jack all that she does need. He has the worst elemental application of any unit. He basically just buffs physical, hurting team building even more, and he doesn't group. He's a unit designed by someone who has no experience playing a physical character, let alone Eula. And that's why Eula 2.0, Navia, functions so much better. She still needs to charge up her big hit, but she can save it for a while and then unleash it on full hp enemies on demand. She also gets 2 uses of it per cycle, rather than one, further helping in avoiding wasting it. She wants 2 PECHs on the team, of any mix you want, while her geo damage also does something against shields, so much better at dealing with shields. The one thing that isn't addressed is grouping, as geo also has no synergy with anemo, though certain unit choices remove that as an issue as well, since units like Furina, Yae, and Chiori will just reach out and touch the ungrouped units, though the lack of a good geo healer hurts in regards to using Furina. I still love Eula, prefer her over Navia in regards of fun to play, but Navia's kit is just far superior, because Hoyoverse doesn't understand Eula's issues, and her burst has that fundamental flaw of being end-loaded.
Of course any Hyperbloom team will work with any flex as any role. Hyperbloom is broken even if you try to nerf it. This isn't a Eula Hyperbloom team, this is Hyperbloom with Eula as a guest.
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(Edit: "Perfect" Eula team for me doesn't mean perfect for you, and the thing I was referring to people being "mad" about was just that at a glance the team is just Eula hyperbloom, despite it very much de prioritizing the dendro dmg heavily)
This is a good example of a team that is very strong, but probably not that worthwhile to invest in for its fragility/normal Eula issues. But it IS highly synergistic in allowing Eula to get big dmg, while letting you use her normal playstyle in far more situations. This abyss cycle is honestly really bad for Eula, but as you saw it still cleared without much issue, even with my bad play. High investment and unrelatable for sure, but I think some Eula mains go to greater lengths to use Eula than I did this video lol.
And yes, this is more Hybrid Raiden propaganda lol, but I tried to keep the focus on Eula this video, even if in truth the spice of this team was that it was a dual DPS team. The bad play with not swapping to Raiden quickly after finishing Eulas combo was mostly on purpose because I wanted to make sure the Eula damage showed in the video, rather than just seeing it in the HP bar during Raiden's burst animation.
Yelan is realistically a good option instead of using Furina C2 in the team btw. She buffs Eula a bit less, but it will be more survivable. Which is to say I'd say Nahida C2 and Hybrid Raiden using SoSS are realistically the main requirements to emulate this team, with Furina being the highest dmg potential but most replaceable option. For higher survivability it makes more sense to use Yelan compared to using Maidens on Nahida like I did this video, or you can use Furina on Deepwood like mentioned in video (but again I used Maidens on purpose to purpsefully remove a large chunk of the dendro dmg from the team as a way to better illustrate Raiden/Eulas dmg contribution).
considering furina allows for 4 mare I think yelan would actually be a pretty significant loss for eula alone
I wouldn't call it Hybrid Raiden propaganda, personally, because I see using Raiden as yet another case of holding the team back to give Eula a chance to shine. By that, I mean a C2 Yae would be better than a C2 Raiden, due to Yae's range factor. Nahida, Yae, and Furina all reaching and touching will just obliterate everything. I know this, because Yae + Furina is the core of one of my two Abyss teams, and it does just that with Yaoyao as the dendro... and also when I leave the dendro at home ;)
Using Furina, (C2) Yae, and Eula together, with a dendro, does have some value as well, as it allows Yae and Furina to clean up all the trash mobs that are a waste of Eula's burst, while Eula can then be saved to be a boss killer. However, the Abyss doesn't really toss lineups at us that favor that... we don't really get situations where first there a bunch of trash mobs, and then we get an actual high hp boss. Instead, the closest we tend to get is a bunch of trash mobs, and then a higher hp enemy with annoying mechanics like teleporting around (the maidens), big shields (lectors/heralds), or pets (the desert ones).
hybrid raiden makes a return let's go, didn't seen her for a while
if heavenly principles don't have a bunch of phys res, i'm sure this team is able to kill them
Yep I got quite excited when I realized Eula could be highly synergistic with Hybrid Raiden, even if the team was super high investment lol. I've still been using Hybrid Raiden a lot, just not shown in videos (I normally show little to none of the other side of abyss clears). I've kept her on her hybrid build permanently. Unlike most of my video ideas wherein I don't tend to use the characters as much after the video is done, hybrid Raiden is one I go back to :)
hey there, cool team!! just a little tip from a eula player: the two hits from the third NA count as one NA, so to do the combo properly you gotta do one more NA before the hold E. in addition to that, you need to wait a bit after her hold E deals its explosion damage to do more NAs because her stacks only register if there's an interval greater than 0.1s between the damage instances. hope i was able to articulate what I mean somewhat understandably!!
you'll be able to get even bigger nukes if you do this :)
Ty for this! You should post a video on youtube doing the rotation correctly. I would love to see it
Ty ty (that 0.1s interval probably explains a bit of the variance I saw)
I just realized that team core of Raiden, C2 Furina, and C2 Nahida could actually be used on anyone. Like Navia.
Yeah basically lol
@@Solunerra If only I was rich.
There is another powerful plunge vape core with Xianyun, Furina and C6 Bennett (can be used on anyone except bow and non-pyro catalyst users).
@@persephonehades7547
Or keep saving? I been saving for Yae Miko for 3 banners and she is C5 now......now i just need another re-run so she can finaly hit c6 lol.
@@Bullminator No shame in flexing, but it's a little foolish to assume I don't save my primos based off of these two comments. I do, and I was rewarded greatly for it too.
New hyperfridge team just dropped
14:04 angry Eula 😭
Love the way you do none “meta” PJ. This is why I love your channel.
Is Eula really the infuriating part of this team or turning Nahida into a healer?
Healer Nahida is highly underrated in general just by putting Pamber on her. You dont lose much damage for using it on a normal build. Putting her on Maidens is obviously a bit more silly (if nobody else is on Deepwood at least), but as said in the video I did it for the very purpose of powering down the dendro dmg in the team a bit to put the focus on Eula/Raiden, plus to make the team less fragile.
The part that I would be referring to this team making people “mad” is that this is technically just a very high investment variation of hyperbloom Eula that has far more synergy with Eula than Hyperbloom does without these constellations (the whole team is Unrelatable Eula btw, Genshin is a team based game, the functioning of a character is tied to the sum of the whole)
Stan eula
I theorized about this team when furina dropped. glad someone made a video about it. c2 jean instead of nahida also works really well.
That's it, enough sadness for today.
i could literally never even afford one of those builds lmfao
You can if you find someone to teach you how.
I mean this is just a great team, I see nothing wrong with it, hell i'm down to build it one day
I new this gonna be a hyperbloom team as soon as I saw the title 😂
The broke tcers at kqm could never. Also thanks for the tip of furina c2 getting max or just about close to it with prototype Amber didn’t know that.👍
Haha thats praise I dont think Im that deserving of. R5 Amber on Furina gets over max fanfare because of the healing bonus Furina herself gives, actually. So I think only R4 Amber is required (or R1 with Maidens but as said in the video I don’t recommend maidens)
i love it when he says "BUTT"
I knew from the start it will be Hyperbloom! 😭
Nahida, Furina and Raiden cow feeding Eula is crazy
This is the team i like to run, but with Dehya instead of Eula, which offers a little more survivability + some Furina vapes
It's definitely a team with Raiden and furina with what you cooked
at this point in the game, I'm just playing Fav Eula in a hyperbloom team and get like 70k per burst, or just plunge eula
How would this team feel with physical qiqi? I think that could be a cool idea
All I'm missing is nahida and raiden's c2, the other 2 are C6
I don’t have Raiden C2, but that is a potential alternative to get Raiden to deal dmg
Eula was my first main - but I really don't want to pull Furina because support characters who's kits are as simple "press button, do more damage", and I don't want to pull Yelan because I don't find her kit "interesting", so do you think Xingqui is a workable substitute? Or would you recommend Mika (still C5, hunting for his C6...)?
The point of Furina here is to be buffer, so Xingqiu doesn't work. Yelan buffs a little bit though, but not as much as Furina, and so does Mona.
Furina enables MH and buffs a bunch. If you already have a really good pale flame build, Yelan would be close to Furina I imagine, but XQ would not be buffing Eula at all. The team could still be more than functional, but Id expect a good 25% less dmg than my Eula got in this video (at least). XQ is a nice defensive option though. Many players can run healerless teams just by nature of XQs dmg reduction, but his role in this team would be for hyperbloom and not for buffing Eula is all
I have 200% ER on eula so more freedom in team building
Me dumb so I just use Baizhu instead of Nahida cuz I don’t have her C2 anyhow.
Sensible, but I had to buff Eula as much as possible lol
Pulling for Eula is unrelatable
Not wrong lol
Try the same team but change nahida to xianyun ,for me it’s more fun and she more relies on high plunge dmg
I made a video on plunge Eula last week! Not with Nahida but I really enjoyed it
Honestly, I’m just frustrated that you didn’t put together that Eula’s third attack has two hits and you need to na more
why furina is necessary for this team?
When did "Wee Nut" become the accepted pronunciation when the correct pronunciation is "When Noot"?
Dunno, Ive always called it Wee Nut lol
@@Solunerra but it sounds so dumb...
i have c0 r1 WGS eula any tips?
For her normal playstyle? Really its just that you gotta try to manipulate enemy movement to be able to have them grouped properly to execute Eulas combos. If you look up abyss guides for any particular version any good one should go over the ways to manipulate the enemy behavior to get them to group properly. From there its just playing Eula well Id think. But Ive not played with her more normal low investment teams, so I cant really give much more advice than that
@@Solunerra ok thank you!
I love Eula as character/design , but man her kit sucks , I tired to make her work but she just feels underwhelming and painful to play compared to some meta dps like navia neuvillette alhaitham ....
imagine doing this when you can just press E on navia and clear faster lmao
I mean yeah Navia quite a bit better lol
i don't consider a character good that presses a button and clears because i want to play the game
@@erronblack3462 yeah, these genshin players shit on characters that require some efforts and skill. All they want is to press 2 buttons and clear the room. That's why braindead chars as Newbillete, HuTao and Navia are rated so high.
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I was almost mad until you mentioned you furina and Nahida were c2. The team would actually have been as optimal as Eula teams get if you gave raiden tenacity with EM/EM/EM and Nahida deepwood
It seems like she still has the problem of being worse than c6 freminet at c0. She had no right to be so undertuned with so many problems
I think the Eula problem is just a early Genshin problem (minus the 4*'s, they're still broken to this day) cos they wanted to balance them around their kits, but didn't see the fact they're be undertuned or even unviable once another option released. And i'm saying 'early Genshin' cos by like mid to late Inazuma they thew that philosophy out the window cos Raiden was such a huge powercreep, especially at c2+. (yes it requires cons but the cons themselves were such a massive jump)
@@cheyanne2001 Hu Tao, Klee, Tartaglia, and Xiao are all great today, so that point doesn't hold up. To make Eula any competent nowadays you might as well increase her damage by 25%-100% and that still doesn't excuse all her gameplay issues
@@polychromaa yes, they all do hold up. Klee is a Burgeon gremlin, Hu Tao can use Furina to great effect, Childe has always been solid and Xiao was recently buffed with Xianyun. But I'm saying Eula, and specifically Physical is kinda in a rough spot, similar to Geo unironically. Yeah we got Freminet for Phys and Chiori and Navia for Geo, but they're all good *despite* being Geo. Not because they are Geo
Yeah, I dont disagree tbh. It's still kinda fun messing with her despite all her problems. Makes her more engaging to play sometimes I think, kinda in the same vein as Dehya.
@@polychromaaEula's problem isn't her damage. It's always been fine. Even robots are easy to crush, thanks to the amount of -phys resists.
She has three main issues. The first is shields. Best way to counter them is elemental application, and characters related to phys tend to have bad elemental application, while superconduct pushes phys into cryo and electro, hindering teaming options. The second is the nature of her burst. A lot can change in 6s, and furthermore, the more you amp up Eula's and/or the team's (off-field) damage, the worse this gets, as you destroy mobs to such a point that it is a waste of energy to use the burst on more and more of them. And that leaves the third factor, that anemo doesn't do much for phys, so you are less likely to have a grouper.
This is all why Mika is such a bad physical support character for Eula and phys in general. He buffs what Eula doesn't need, but does jack all that she does need. He has the worst elemental application of any unit. He basically just buffs physical, hurting team building even more, and he doesn't group. He's a unit designed by someone who has no experience playing a physical character, let alone Eula.
And that's why Eula 2.0, Navia, functions so much better. She still needs to charge up her big hit, but she can save it for a while and then unleash it on full hp enemies on demand. She also gets 2 uses of it per cycle, rather than one, further helping in avoiding wasting it. She wants 2 PECHs on the team, of any mix you want, while her geo damage also does something against shields, so much better at dealing with shields. The one thing that isn't addressed is grouping, as geo also has no synergy with anemo, though certain unit choices remove that as an issue as well, since units like Furina, Yae, and Chiori will just reach out and touch the ungrouped units, though the lack of a good geo healer hurts in regards to using Furina.
I still love Eula, prefer her over Navia in regards of fun to play, but Navia's kit is just far superior, because Hoyoverse doesn't understand Eula's issues, and her burst has that fundamental flaw of being end-loaded.
Of course any Hyperbloom team will work with any flex as any role. Hyperbloom is broken even if you try to nerf it. This isn't a Eula Hyperbloom team, this is Hyperbloom with Eula as a guest.