I have a 2001 wakesetter with a "old school" wedge that locks either in the up position (pushed up against the bottom of the deck). Or lock down 90 degrees facing the prop. So down position creates the larger wake? And up should be up for just cruising? I'm guessing whatever way creates more wake would also hurt fuel economy? Or put more wear on the motor, working harder for same speed? When should it be up and when should it be down? Is there ever a time it SHOULDNT be up or down?
Great video! I've been researching the Axis A24 and this has been the most informative about the power wedge. I'm coming from an I/O so these V-drives are all new to me. I'm very impressed with the Axis and the reviews I've seen so far. Thoughts? Thanks Chantel!
Does lift mode reduce wale enough to slalom ski behind the boat or no? I know it wont be Ski Nautique level low wake, but what are your thoughts on slalom skiing behind it in lift mode (not for competition or even to run a slalom course but just for recreational slalom skiers)?
What prop have you tried? With that M6, I would probably run the standard prop, even at a higher elevation. It is a good compromise of low-end torque and low RPMs at a higher speed. But if you always have a huge crew and/or add extra weight, you may want a torque prop.
Chantel, question for you.... I have a 2021 MXZ23 and "Lift Mode" does not automatically deploy when I am pulling a rider out up. I'm I doing something wrong? Was thinking that "Lift Mode" helps the boat get up on plane easier, which is does when I manually touch "Lift Mode" but I am told by other Malibu owners that "Lift mode" should deploy automatically, than once boat is up on plane will go to the pre-set wedge position. Wondering if you can assist w this question. thank you
If you have your speed set at 17mph or higher, the Wedge should go into Lift mode until you hit 90% of your set speed, then drop into the set position. Cruise control has to be turned on and set above 17mph for that feature to work. Could that be the problem?
With a manual Wedge, I would start with it up for beginners. When you drop it, it makes the wake shorter and a lot steeper and could be harder for a beginner to ride. Once you can get up and stay stable on the board, try ti both ways!
So I have a 2006 Malibu wake setter but the wedge is manual. The only way we’ve been able to get enough force to wake surf without the rope is to get almost on the deck really close to the boat at about 9mph. Any suggestions. Would live a video
I have M22 the wake us washes out on right side but clean on left side when wakeboarding ... we go about 16/17 mph .. how can I clean the right side for jumping ..left in Stow is great clean wake .. otherwise stays washed iut . We moved people and tried some different things.. any suggestions??
@@ChantelBoats I have the same issue with my M22, would you be able to suggest using Surfgate to clean the jumping side, is the speed for wakeboarding too excessive for surfgate .. is it advisable to add a lot of water to ballast of the white wash side?
I have a 2020 t22. Just starting surfing. Running at 10.8 with wedge 3/4. How do I make the wave farther back. Have full weight in all ballest. Surfing left.
If you put the wedge at 2, you will get a longer, but less steep, wake, so definitely try that. You can also move some of your people/gear to the front of the boat which will lengthen the wake out as well.
Hi Chantel, may I ask where is the anchor and what type is it for the 2019 LSV 22? Also thank you for your videos I have watched them all as we are looking at buying a Wakesetter. Keep up the great work!!
Awesome! You would love a Wakesetter! The Malibu 22LSV doesn't come with an anchor, is that what you mean? My favorite anchor is the box anchor made by Slide Anchor. It's the best anchor I've ever used, folds flat for easy storage, and comes with a bag. It's rad.
@@ChantelBoats I just researched your suggestion about the box anchor and will be buying one as well. It seems to hold better than the traditional fluke style anchor. Thanks!
Love all your videos! Just purchased a 2019 T23 and surfed it yesterday. With the wedge down (like 3+) it is really hard to steer. Loves to go straight, but trying to angle it around a point or pick up surfer falling off the wave (learned that from you🙂) takes some muscle. Is that normal??
Hi Chantel, great video! We have a 2022 23 LSV and I'm finding the wake to be tall with plenty of push but not enough length. This worked well when we first started getting into wake surfing but now when trying to learn tricks I find the wake is just way to short (the pocket is very small and steep). We generally run with all ballast full, 10.8 mph, and the power wedge all the way down at 1 or 2. Any thoughts?
@@ChantelBoats thank you! We have the w022-570-avo bags. Went out yesterday, increased speed to 11.1, moved passengers around (including to the front), but no real progress. Wave is really tall (even with Wedge at 1 or 2) and comes off the boat at an angle so the pocket and curl are quite short (maybe 10 ft of surf area). The videos I watch have nice long waves that trail behind the boat for what looks like 20-30 feet… thanks again for any suggestions.
we are in the market for a boat but don’t want to pay anything over 70k. what do you think would be the best bang for our buck. coming from a 1993 cobalt and we are skiers but would love to try surfing.
For 70k and under you'll be looking at something used. If you're looking at Malibu and Axis try to find something that's 2013 or newer (2014 on Axis) so you can get surf gate. If you also like to ski, best bet would be a 20VTX, 21VLX or 22LSV in a diamond hull
OK I’ve got a question. Using the power wedge for wakeboarding Let’s say it’s set at four, The wakeboarder falls we go back to pick them up and go again. Does the wedge always stay in that 4 position or wouldn’t it be better if it went to the lift position to get up on plane and then back to where it was that after reaching a certain speed. Is there a setting for this? By the way my Malibu is a 2012.
Yes, that is better, and the new Power Wedge does that automatically when your speed is set at 17MPH or higher. The Power Wedge in 2012 doesn't do that, unfortunately.
What boat is better for a choppy ride on rough days? The 23lsv or the G23? Also, can you use the wedge to soften the ride on choppy days when just cruising? Thanks
The G23 will be pretty through super choppy water. It's a displacement hull, so it just plows right throw the water, where the LSV is a planing hull, so it is going to get up on top of the water. I've never used the Wedge that way, but I suppose you could mess with it as long as you don't go faster than 27mph.
Hi Chantel, Love your vids, they have helped me a lot, thx! I purchased a 2021 Wakesetter 23 LSV, with option for PNP extra ballasts, but have not installed any yet. The goofy wave is quite nice, but I surf regular and I feel the wave does not have enough push. I have filled all ballasts @ 100%, except the back right which I am toying with between 50 and 75%. Power wedge does not provide any noticeable difference when I cruise (without towing) to check for wave modifications. We are usually 3 on the boat and I am rather heavy (210 pounds). Do you think I have a settings issue or does the boat require the extra ballasts (and lead?) to perform well on regular side? Any tips or links would be appreciated! If you think I need extra PNP ballasts, can you recommend the best ones? Warm regards from Switzerland!
Hi Casey! I would add those bags! Super easy to put in. You can still do the 75% ish in the starboard side to make that regular wake even better, but the PnP bags will help a TON! You can find them here: ronixwake.com/products/malibu-axis-plug-n-play-ma90
Great video. I have a new 2020 axis a22. Can you clarify how to get into stow mode? I understand it’s over 1mph to 10mph. Do you keep pressing raise wedge after 6 and the next setting is stow? I realized after completing a surf session I was driving around in “lift mode” for a while. Is that problematic for the boat in any way?
You can drive with the wedge down up to 27 mph. Ideally it’s stowed when not in use, but I doubt you hurt anything! To put it in stow, you can either push and hold wedge up or the go home button until it gets all the way there, and yes, the next level up from 6. I would do this while the boat is barely moving, 1-4 mph, then when it’s stowed, you can take off!
@@ChantelBoats if we have someone who wants to ski and choose life will that lesson the wake for them. Say first thing, no ballast and lift mode...as long as we stay under 27mph it should be ok? 2019 A24.
Hey there, I have an A22 2018. Just getting familiar with the wedge and ballasts in general. So when the wedge is in the down position (furthest down) is that goin to create the biggest wave? Or is the wave bigger in the position just before it is stowed? Also, what are tricks for making the wave longer vs steeper. Yesterday I had all of the ballasts full and the wedge at #3. The wave seemed short and steep? Any thoughts on how to shorten the height and make it longer? Thx a ton. Your videos are helping!!
Hi! For surfing, full ballast. For the Power Wedge settings, a 3 or a 4 is going to be big, steep and shorter. A 1 or a 2 is going to lengthen the wake out and give you less push. Lift mode is -500lbs of ballast, so that is going to be very long and not steep at all. Typically, when we have bigger people or more experienced riders, we run it on 3 or 4. Smaller people or beginners, a 1 or 2. Lift mode when teaching little kids - they need VERY little push! 5 and 6 are even more aggressive, but they just wash out the wake, so we don't use those.
hello Chantel I need some hel, I have an axis A24 2019 with power wedge 3 I don't now why but I can't put the power wedge on lift mode it's only stowed to 1 do you know how to calibrate ??
This seems odd. I would talk to your dealer. It should go all the way to Lift when you first deploy. Your dealer should calibrate it for you, not really something you want to do at home. Good luck!!
thanks. i’ve been researching the axis t22 and i would like to hear your thoughts on it. i’m coming from a 1993 cobalt with a I/O and have wanted to surf for years and i think this is the year i will upgrade. we still want to waterski so we want the t22 traditional bow. any thought on that?
The T22 isn't really a ski boat per se, but you can definitely ski behind it. It is probably the best ski wake of any Axis (or maybe the A20). I bought a T22 after the new hull design came out and I loved it. Great surf wake. Coming from your Cobalt you will probably be just fine.
i have a 2019 A24 and you are spot on with your recommendations below in the comment replies. if you do this again, i would add that you don't need to go faster than 25 or the warning goes off. My question is on skiing ... how is the best way to flatten the wake in this boat for some older guys that do not want the wake... weight in the bow only with people or ballast?
Your videos are awesome. They're just the right amount of time and always have great tips!
Great explanation!
I have a 2001 wakesetter with a "old school" wedge that locks either in the up position (pushed up against the bottom of the deck). Or lock down 90 degrees facing the prop.
So down position creates the larger wake?
And up should be up for just cruising?
I'm guessing whatever way creates more wake would also hurt fuel economy? Or put more wear on the motor, working harder for same speed?
When should it be up and when should it be down? Is there ever a time it SHOULDNT be up or down?
Very helpful!
What’s the ideal setting (ballast and/or wedge) for wakeboarding?
Great video! I've been researching the Axis A24 and this has been the most informative about the power wedge. I'm coming from an I/O so these V-drives are all new to me. I'm very impressed with the Axis and the reviews I've seen so far. Thoughts? Thanks Chantel!
You would be STOKED on an A24!! Tons of room inside, handles really well, the wake is insane for surfing!
Does lift mode reduce wale enough to slalom ski behind the boat or no? I know it wont be Ski Nautique level low wake, but what are your thoughts on slalom skiing behind it in lift mode (not for competition or even to run a slalom course but just for recreational slalom skiers)?
I have a 2020 T22 with the M6. Denver altitude. Still trying to figure out the best prop options. Suggestions? Thanks!
What prop have you tried? With that M6, I would probably run the standard prop, even at a higher elevation. It is a good compromise of low-end torque and low RPMs at a higher speed. But if you always have a huge crew and/or add extra weight, you may want a torque prop.
Thanks, always great videos!
Chantel, question for you.... I have a 2021 MXZ23 and "Lift Mode" does not automatically deploy when I am pulling a rider out up. I'm I doing something wrong? Was thinking that "Lift Mode" helps the boat get up on plane easier, which is does when I manually touch "Lift Mode" but I am told by other Malibu owners that "Lift mode" should deploy automatically, than once boat is up on plane will go to the pre-set wedge position. Wondering if you can assist w this question. thank you
If you have your speed set at 17mph or higher, the Wedge should go into Lift mode until you hit 90% of your set speed, then drop into the set position. Cruise control has to be turned on and set above 17mph for that feature to work. Could that be the problem?
Always great advice. Thanks!
Hi! Thank you and question…. Would you still fill up all the bags PLUS the power wedge? Or one or the other?
Both!
We have the Axis A20 but our wedge options are up or down what do you suggest on the settings for a beginner?
With a manual Wedge, I would start with it up for beginners. When you drop it, it makes the wake shorter and a lot steeper and could be harder for a beginner to ride. Once you can get up and stay stable on the board, try ti both ways!
Thanks. Very informative.
So I have a 2006 Malibu wake setter but the wedge is manual. The only way we’ve been able to get enough force to wake surf without the rope is to get almost on the deck really close to the boat at about 9mph. Any suggestions. Would live a video
How much ballast do you have?
1 tank in middle / 1 Back right / 1 back left
Or did you mean how full were they. The middle was 50% the back Right 75%
It’s the 24’ WSV with the 400hp engine.
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I have M22 the wake us washes out on right side but clean on left side when wakeboarding ... we go about 16/17 mph .. how can I clean the right side for jumping ..left in Stow is great clean wake .. otherwise stays washed iut . We moved people and tried some different things.. any suggestions??
Have you played with the ballast levels? You could try draining some out of the port side and see if that makes a difference?
@@ChantelBoats I have the same issue with my M22, would you be able to suggest using Surfgate to clean the jumping side, is the speed for wakeboarding too excessive for surfgate .. is it advisable to add a lot of water to ballast of the white wash side?
nice job!! Thanks
I have a 2020 t22. Just starting surfing. Running at 10.8 with wedge 3/4. How do I make the wave farther back. Have full weight in all ballest. Surfing left.
If you put the wedge at 2, you will get a longer, but less steep, wake, so definitely try that. You can also move some of your people/gear to the front of the boat which will lengthen the wake out as well.
Hi Chantel, may I ask where is the anchor and what type is it for the 2019 LSV 22? Also thank you for your videos I have watched them all as we are looking at buying a Wakesetter. Keep up the great work!!
Awesome! You would love a Wakesetter! The Malibu 22LSV doesn't come with an anchor, is that what you mean? My favorite anchor is the box anchor made by Slide Anchor. It's the best anchor I've ever used, folds flat for easy storage, and comes with a bag. It's rad.
@@ChantelBoats Thank you!
@@ChantelBoats I just researched your suggestion about the box anchor and will be buying one as well. It seems to hold better than the traditional fluke style anchor. Thanks!
Love all your videos! Just purchased a 2019 T23 and surfed it yesterday. With the wedge down (like 3+) it is really hard to steer. Loves to go straight, but trying to angle it around a point or pick up surfer falling off the wave (learned that from you🙂) takes some muscle. Is that normal??
Yeah, it's totally normal for the boat to get harder to maneuver once it's weighted and even more so if Surf Gate is out.
Hi Chantel, can I use the wedge wake boarding?
Absolutely! It is great for wakeboarding! You just don't want to use it going 27mph or faster.
Hi Chantel, great video! We have a 2022 23 LSV and I'm finding the wake to be tall with plenty of push but not enough length. This worked well when we first started getting into wake surfing but now when trying to learn tricks I find the wake is just way to short (the pocket is very small and steep). We generally run with all ballast full, 10.8 mph, and the power wedge all the way down at 1 or 2. Any thoughts?
Hey! Congrats on the new boat! Do you know what size plug n play ballast bags you have in the back?
@@ChantelBoats thank you! We have the w022-570-avo bags. Went out yesterday, increased speed to 11.1, moved passengers around (including to the front), but no real progress. Wave is really tall (even with Wedge at 1 or 2) and comes off the boat at an angle so the pocket and curl are quite short (maybe 10 ft of surf area). The videos I watch have nice long waves that trail behind the boat for what looks like 20-30 feet… thanks again for any suggestions.
we are in the market for a boat but don’t want to pay anything over 70k. what do you think would be the best bang for our buck. coming from a 1993 cobalt and we are skiers but would love to try surfing.
For 70k and under you'll be looking at something used. If you're looking at Malibu and Axis try to find something that's 2013 or newer (2014 on Axis) so you can get surf gate. If you also like to ski, best bet would be a 20VTX, 21VLX or 22LSV in a diamond hull
OK I’ve got a question. Using the power wedge for wakeboarding Let’s say it’s set at four, The wakeboarder falls we go back to pick them up and go again. Does the wedge always stay in that 4 position or wouldn’t it be better if it went to the lift position to get up on plane and then back to where it was that after reaching a certain speed. Is there a setting for this? By the way my Malibu is a 2012.
Yes, that is better, and the new Power Wedge does that automatically when your speed is set at 17MPH or higher. The Power Wedge in 2012 doesn't do that, unfortunately.
What boat is better for a choppy ride on rough days? The 23lsv or the G23? Also, can you use the wedge to soften the ride on choppy days when just cruising? Thanks
The G23 will be pretty through super choppy water. It's a displacement hull, so it just plows right throw the water, where the LSV is a planing hull, so it is going to get up on top of the water. I've never used the Wedge that way, but I suppose you could mess with it as long as you don't go faster than 27mph.
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Got it. Will play around a bit as I currently have a 2019 23 LSV.
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Hi Chantel, Love your vids, they have helped me a lot, thx! I purchased a 2021 Wakesetter 23 LSV, with option for PNP extra ballasts, but have not installed any yet. The goofy wave is quite nice, but I surf regular and I feel the wave does not have enough push. I have filled all ballasts @ 100%, except the back right which I am toying with between 50 and 75%. Power wedge does not provide any noticeable difference when I cruise (without towing) to check for wave modifications. We are usually 3 on the boat and I am rather heavy (210 pounds). Do you think I have a settings issue or does the boat require the extra ballasts (and lead?) to perform well on regular side? Any tips or links would be appreciated! If you think I need extra PNP ballasts, can you recommend the best ones? Warm regards from Switzerland!
Hi Casey! I would add those bags! Super easy to put in. You can still do the 75% ish in the starboard side to make that regular wake even better, but the PnP bags will help a TON! You can find them here: ronixwake.com/products/malibu-axis-plug-n-play-ma90
@@ChantelBoats Thank you Chantel :)
Great video. I have a new 2020 axis a22. Can you clarify how to get into stow mode? I understand it’s over 1mph to 10mph. Do you keep pressing raise wedge after 6 and the next setting is stow?
I realized after completing a surf session I was driving around in “lift mode” for a while. Is that problematic for the boat in any way?
You can drive with the wedge down up to 27 mph. Ideally it’s stowed when not in use, but I doubt you hurt anything!
To put it in stow, you can either push and hold wedge up or the go home button until it gets all the way there, and yes, the next level up from 6. I would do this while the boat is barely moving, 1-4 mph, then when it’s stowed, you can take off!
@@ChantelBoats if we have someone who wants to ski and choose life will that lesson the wake for them. Say first thing, no ballast and lift mode...as long as we stay under 27mph it should be ok? 2019 A24.
@@tjtingley You got it!
Hey there, I have an A22 2018. Just getting familiar with the wedge and ballasts in general. So when the wedge is in the down position (furthest down) is that goin to create the biggest wave? Or is the wave bigger in the position just before it is stowed? Also, what are tricks for making the wave longer vs steeper. Yesterday I had all of the ballasts full and the wedge at #3. The wave seemed short and steep? Any thoughts on how to shorten the height and make it longer? Thx a ton. Your videos are helping!!
Hi! For surfing, full ballast. For the Power Wedge settings, a 3 or a 4 is going to be big, steep and shorter. A 1 or a 2 is going to lengthen the wake out and give you less push. Lift mode is -500lbs of ballast, so that is going to be very long and not steep at all. Typically, when we have bigger people or more experienced riders, we run it on 3 or 4. Smaller people or beginners, a 1 or 2. Lift mode when teaching little kids - they need VERY little push! 5 and 6 are even more aggressive, but they just wash out the wake, so we don't use those.
hello Chantel I need some hel, I have an axis A24 2019 with power wedge 3 I don't now why but I can't put the power wedge on lift mode it's only stowed to 1 do you know how to calibrate ??
This seems odd. I would talk to your dealer. It should go all the way to Lift when you first deploy. Your dealer should calibrate it for you, not really something you want to do at home. Good luck!!
thanks. i’ve been researching the axis t22 and i would like to hear your thoughts on it. i’m coming from a 1993 cobalt with a I/O and have wanted to surf for years and i think this is the year i will upgrade. we still want to waterski so we want the t22 traditional bow. any thought on that?
The T22 isn't really a ski boat per se, but you can definitely ski behind it. It is probably the best ski wake of any Axis (or maybe the A20). I bought a T22 after the new hull design came out and I loved it. Great surf wake. Coming from your Cobalt you will probably be just fine.
Is the vlx the best wakesetter
They are all good! It just depends on what style you like and how many people are in your crew!
i have a 2019 A24 and you are spot on with your recommendations below in the comment replies. if you do this again, i would add that you don't need to go faster than 25 or the warning goes off.
My question is on skiing ... how is the best way to flatten the wake in this boat for some older guys that do not want the wake... weight in the bow only with people or ballast?
I would say as few people as you can get, either no ballast, or a little in the bow. It will never fully flatten out, but that would be your best bet.
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