Canyon Grail CF SL Review | Wacky Bars & Great Value, But Watch The Sizing
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- The 2020 Canyon Grail CF SL 7.0 is the direct-sale giant's cheapest carbon gravel bike and, for this year, it gets a Shimano GRX gravel-specific groupset. Designed around Canyon’s unique double-decker Hover bar, the Grail CF is a capable all-rounder, albeit one with polarising looks.
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What's your opinion on the 2020 Canyon Grail? And what about the Hover bar? 🛸Let us know in the comments!
Looks cool but the complicated sizing makes it a no go for me. I have a size 54 (M) Trek Checkpoint SL and although that's already one size smaller for my 1,80m than recommended by Trek, I had to further shorten the reach with a new Handlebar which I changed from 85mm reach to 70mm (and a bit wider as well). With that the Bike is far more comfortable and controllable for me. For frontend suspension I use a Redshift suspension stem so I got that covered as well. I think getting a perfect fit for the Grail would have been a massive pain in the butt or just flatout impossible unless I got extremely lucky and I'm not willing to take that chance.
Like swans, there's a rumour that if you make the hover-bar angry it'll break your arm... ...but there's very little real-world evidence of this.
I won’t buy a bike from a web store. Wanna ride it, try it. Also want it ready, no ikea style assembly thanks. Looks like a childrens bike that S-size
I bought the Grail 8.0 SL and received it 3 weeks ago after waiting 3 weeks for delivery. It took about 50 miles to get used to after my Aeroad. It is a lovely bike to ride. I have done a 40 mile ride purely on road and it did get a bit much after 35 miles (I live in England and our winter isn't fun.) It feels lovely on road and feels like a road bike but with more rolling resistance and great off road.
I have tended to do 40 mile rides with about 15 miles on road. Gravel roads/ fire tracks it is really fast, smooth single track (blue routes) are ok but the 40mm tyres get bogged down easily and rough single tracks are doable but require some slowing down and picking your line very carefully.
Yes the wheels and tyres are tubeless ready but it doesn't come with tubeless valves (It comes with tubes in), so be prepared to fork out another £15 for tubeless valves if you want a tubeless set up. This is a bit off considering I just paid £2,570 for the bike and delivery, you have to pay £14.99 for the cardboard box and £33 for delivery!
Overall if you're after a Gravel bike you'll be hard pushed to beat the Grail 8.0 SL it's comes with GRX 810 (ultegra level) and those funky bars and split seat post really add good compliance on the rough stuff.
Outstanding bike. The warranty is crazy good. The fit and finish, if you do your homework is pretty much right on. These bike would cost quite a bit more if you had to pay for the cost of the brick and mortar display.
I have the Grail 8cfsl and I used the canyon measurement system. I set it up straight from the box and the only adjustment I needed to make was saddle height. I also removed the inner tubes and went tubeless. This bike is such good fun both on and off road. (something this review did not really get across) The bike is exceedingly nimble and on road it accelerates pretty well. Climbs are a breeze with the gear ratios on offer and especially when you are on the rougher trails.
People worry about the hover bar but it is brilliant. Your top bar sits at the normal height. Once you understand this it is simple. The flex in the top takes a lot of the sting out of the roads and small potholes are no longer a problem. The 8 comes with the split seat post which again helps make the ride plusher. It is a bike that you will either love or hate but you should really not judge it until you have ridden one.
This is exactly the model I choose. And I could not be happier with another bike. This beast can do anything from mountain road climb to light singletrack rides.
The geometry, is really brillant.
I'm 71 inches tall with a 34 inch inseam. Canyon suggests a medium, although if I were 73 inches tall with the same inseam, Canyon suggests a large. I'm scared to order online and get the wrong size. Also, the handlebars are not adjustable. Do you have any advice size-wise? I'd really appreciate it. Thanks
Great Review Kent, thank you
He actually did mention that it is not an extreme bike that will go well on and off the road given it's geometry
Excellent review and content sir.
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Really enjoyed this video. There's nothing like a honest review, far better than the regular 'this product is perfect' standard.
Just discovered this video. After watching all the others, I must say this is the most informative of the bunch for the Grail CF SL 7. I’ve just ordered a 2023 model. Thanks for such a balanced review.
I watch many reviews of bikes even just to enhance a bit my knowledge on them and not because I am really interested on that particular model. A good percentage of them I found lacking in one aspect or or other. In this case I must say that this is one of the best comprehensive an exact review I watched online. Well said. Totally on point. You do a great service to us all, Thank you
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I got a cf slx a year ago - brilliant on the rough, on the gravel and as a winter road bike - if I could only have one bike this would be it
Got a 2018 cf sl 8.0 in di2 and I love it. Was a leap of faith buying it online but it’s handle great, fairly light and solid on gravel and not bad at all on the road with slicks. I am 6’ rode Cannondale 56cm, BMC 55cm, Giant M/L and 19” Trek Mtb and went for the medium Grail. Adjusted the seat post and it was spot on, lucky me!
Great and honest review, I´ll agree! I´ve just bought the same bike in size M. I´m 176cm /standover hight = 85,3cm. It´s really the limit, because 1) I´ve got less than 2cm of clearence and 2) the optimal fore-aft saddle position. Size M is perfect for longer rides with hands on top of the hover bar. Size S would be too small for me regarding comfort. Have fun!
I have the AL 6.0 and love it. GRX with hyd brakes. It is bombproof. I usually ride road and wanted something that I wouldn't worry too much if it got scratched and this fits perfectly. Great bike and weighs 9.5kg, so only a little heavier than the carbon with the same wheelset.
Just got my CF SL8 a few weeks ago. Absolutely love the looks and the ride! The cockpit makes it very unique, a real head-turner. The bikes feels still quite nimble and quick but offers much compliance for a roadie. Very happy I decided to go for it. Was lucky to visit Canyon HQ for a test-ride, so no worries about the size.
Hi Ben, I'm 71 inches tall with a 34 inch inseam. Canyon suggests a medium, although if I were 73 inches tall with the same inseam, Canyon suggests a large. I'm scared to order online and get the wrong size, plus the handlebars aren't adjustable. Do you have any advice with sizing the Grail? I'd really appreciate it. Thanks
Great bike. It's not a gimmig for sure. It does work! The seatpost as the handlebar as well.
Great all-rounder. Very happy with the buy. Very good price - quality ratio.
OH MY GOD !! This is my bike. 🤩 I bought this two weeks ago. Same colour and everything ! I absolutely FUCKING love it. 😍🥰❤️ I have a Bianchi Infinto and a Canyon Strive. I’ve not gotten on either one since my Grail arrived. It’s such a pleasure and utter joy to ride. It’s faster than my strive and more comfortable than my Infinito. I’m very very happy with it. I’m enjoying manual gear changing, haven’t had that since I went AXS on my Strive. I can’t express my satisfaction with this buy. And I love the bars, the front end reminds me of the USS enterprise D. It’s a new generation. (I refuse to apologize for the TNG reference. I’ll see myself out. )
I like TNG-you can stay at my party.
Still loving it?
Great video and helpful review. Keep it up! 👌
Great job on the details and putting these unique features in contrast with traditional rigs.
Glad you liked it and thanks for watching!
"...your most affordable route to bi-plane handlebar ownership..." - nice review and all that, but you've massively underestimated: the lengths I'll go to in proving someone on the internet wrong, my belief in my unproven skills with cable-ties and a second roll of bartape, and my faith in the talents of my dentist.
They actually make bar extenders that serve roughly the same purpose
Great review as always. Like most things, you could get used to the look of those bars very quickly
Good review, helpful. Thanks.
Excellent review as always! I like the look of the Grail CF but unfortunately, the limited stack height adjustment wasn’t for me. I’m old and cannot ride the low stack comfortably so I bought a ‘traditional’ Orbea Terra.
I think it is stunning. On my wishlist to review as a long term bike for my channel after fatbike season ends!
Superb review! One wish; if the review stated how tall he was in relation to evaluating the bike size.
I literally just bought a Large frame Canyon Grail CF SL 7.0
. Super excited to take her for a ride and I can't wait until she comes!
I'm 71 inches tall with a 34 inch inseam. Canyon suggests a medium, although if I were 73 inches tall with the same inseam, Canyon suggests a large. I'm scared to order online and get the wrong size, plus the handlebars aren't adjustable. Do you any advice with sizing the Grail? I'd really appreciate it. Thanks
@@benphilippi2288 Hi Ben did you buy one, if so what size did you go for ? we are the same size. I'm wondering which to order oops!
@@johnayton835 No not yet. They've been sold out for a while in medium, which is the size I'm planning to get. Unless I get an Endurace.
thumbs up for "triple decker" also - thought something was amiss - congrats on a shiny new surname!
I have a Grail CF SL 8, 2019 Model, 1x Force1 setup, size M (same frame as 2020 and 2021 models). For all looking for sizing/buy advice: in general the review resembles my opinion as well. With one very big emphasis on FRAME SIZE: I think the most critical thing on this bike is to make sure it fits you well. I'm 176cm, 82cm inseam and got size M after test ride at the factory, despite the website suggests S for me. I've asked Canyon about swapping the cockpit with other sizes and they told me, that it's not possible on the Grail (although it's possible on some of their other bikes). Therefore, the info about cockpit exchange is misleading! Even though the bike fits me well, I can't stand the feeling, that one size narrower cockpit would fit me better. The M size has 75-440 cockpit, whereas the S size has 75-420. XS has 60-400. The most annoying thing is that you can't try the other options. Thus, even if you get more insights from a professional bike fit, you can't apply them to the Grail. For all looking to buy, especially without testing: I would be very careful with that bike, if you tend to have short arms or your inseam-to-height ratio (or legs-to-torso) is off the "standard". Do a bike fit for a fraction of the Grail's price, dial in the bike position and decide with the fitter, if that suits you.
Don't get it...you say "even if you get more insights from a professional bike fit, you can't apply them to the Grail" and then you say "Do a bike fit for a fraction of the Grail's price, dial in the bike position and decide with the fitter". And how do you do all this without the bike....?
@@almograve You can visit a bike fitter who has a fitting jig. Based on Canyons geometry specs the fitter can dial in the bike's geometry and asses, whether it fit's you or not. You don't need the bike for that. And of course, the fitter will asses what geometry will be best for you.
@@almograve he meant you can't change the fitting on bike after you get it, which is why you need to know the best size before you get it
Review is nice, thanks for sharing... just thoughts... watching this review and how he was riding on the slope it is another confirmation that gravel is not really suitable for the forest ride... it goes back to older time when MTB was just appearing on the market... it was almost the same... and quickly evolved into something more suitable with more suspicion, smaller and wider wheels, another bar, another gearing... in other words “back to the past future”
Having just bought a bike and having compared it's geometry to others, I wish everyone gave both stack and reach but also "stack+" and "reach+" as I want to compare where my hands and body will be, (with some consideration of regular stack and reach). Just stack and reach or looking at top-tube length, mean it's nigh on impossible to compare a longer bike with shorter stem to a shorter bike with longer stem without me having to start making the spreadsheets. The buggers always put all the bike geometry in one sizing table, while putting stem lengths per size in the parts table too (cue more scrolling and spreadsheets 😆)!
I will never buy this bike but this is a dang good review. Well done!
Great review. I'd love to see a detailed review of Viathon's gravel bike.
Hello Mathew! First of all, great and helpful review. Did you have the chance to ride an M Frame in the meantime? I have the same body/saddle height as you and still dont know if a S or M frame is more fitting. Cheers!
This bike with the hover bar is the sexiest gravel bike out there, even next to the Pinarello Grevil.
Thank you for reviewing a bike that us mortals can afford!
What should those who can't even afford this one be called? Insects?
@@softbingan we’re called the plebs
great video. Very useful information. I have bought 4 Canyon Bikes (4 different frame types) and agree 100%, sizing is just wrong. I use my measurements and ALWAYS have to use one size bigger than they advise. I swapped 2 bikes to get the right (bigger) frame size and now I just always order one size up.
I was on their site today and felt the same. I’m 5’10 and take a 56cm Trek which is Med/Large and Canyon recommend Small. Bizarre a first for me.
I've had the same sizing issue when buying by Canyon Strive. I've followed the Canyon suggestion and ordered a large. When I tried it out, I couldn't get the saddle high enough and my knees were hitting the bar while cornering. So i had to send it back and exchanged it for an XL. It took a bit of time, but all was handled properly by Canyon.
How tall are you please.
The Red Barons triplane of bike for next year
Was there much bar damping happening at the hoods? Only saw you on the flexible tops on easier terrain going slower uphill. Did you or could you use the damping in a technical section?
Just recieved my new cf sl 8 Grail. Wanted the slx but supply in the USA is difficult. Got to do a short road ride before foot surgery sidelined me for a bit. But I love my Ultimate cf slx 9.0 disc, so am expectations are high.
Where was this review filmed, looks fun for gravel biking.
A test of a more affordable model in the range - keep it coming
I'm looking for a bike like this for when I'm cycling cross country in a couple years and I'm honestly already sold on the idea of getting it, but I would like Canyon to release one with more conventionally shaped bars just so that I can use my attachments like the SP connect mounts and bicycle horn
Excellent review. All the information I needed to cure my itch.
What is the background music playing in the beginning and the end?
I wouldn't mind if you took it on tarmac too and commented on that. Otherwise good review as always.
I am looking forward to the hover bars. Questions for everyone or anyone. 11/14/2020: I just noticed that Canyon in the US just released a new grail bike: Grail CF SL 8 Di2. Previously I was going to buying the Grail CF SLX 8 Di2, mainly because I wanted the Di2 setup. The Grail CF SL 8 Di2 is $3999 and the Grail CF SLX 8 Di2 is $5299. They are identical bikes except for the frame SLX frame at 8.44 kg and SL frame at 8.88 kg and the wheels for the SLX are Reynolds ATR carbons and the wheels for the SL are DT Swiss G1800 Spline db. The weight is not really a deciding factor for me. But combined with the Reynolds ATR carbons, do you think it is worth the $1300 difference with the frame? From what I can tell a set of Reyonds ATR carbons are about $1300-$1500 retail and a set of DT Swiss G1800 Spline db are $500. Note everyone I am novice when it comes to bike components.
With GRX becoming a thing, will other brands make their move? Or will Campagnolo make it outside their comfort zone to make a non-road oriented groupset?
I am seriously considering a gravel bike, currently ride a Trek Madone 5.2 and I want something i can take anywhere. My biggest challenge is sizing, I'm 6' 5" with a 35" inside leg so always struggle to find a bike that doesn't make me feel like I'm hanging over the front too much. This looks interesting, but not being able to try before you buy is an irritation, any other tall gravel riders on here that could share their experiences?
Someone should do a video on how to wrap tape on the hoverbar. Neat bike but I wouldn't buy it, and a big reason is mentioned in the video: sizing. I almost bought an Aeroad a couple of years ago, but Canyon and I couldn't figure out for sure what size was best for me, and I couldn't try it before buying...
harrylook I filmed one last month. I’ll upload it soon 🥴
You can change or give the bike back for 30 days. Sure, its annoying, but if you really wanna have a canyon bike its alright.
With normal road bikes, your risk is minimal and Canyon will exchange the bike. I have to say, my Ultimate is staggeringly good. I will buy another Canyon when the time comes.
Excellent review here
Mind you -11-34 cassette essentially a mountain bike cassette ! Be god !! He-man stuff
Do the rear wheel hub make too much noise in this Canyon Grail CF SL 7.0 of 2020? I know some people love this noise, but for me, it's the other way around.
I own Canyon's Spectral AL and Sender CF already but I want Grail CF as well😅
How is to climb long gravel uphills 6+ km and 6 to 10% with gravel bike. How would you compare climbing hills like this with gravel or with xc hardtail?
How tall are you? Asking as I'm at the end of the spectrum too and don't want to ship this thing back haha. Thanks!
How tall was the rider? I'm a medium on a giant defy and a 56 on a trek domane.
i'm looking at buying this model. I did a size measurement through the Canyon website and it said i was a medium. Being 6ft and 32 leg i was right on the cusp of medium or large going by the size chart. I'm really cought between the gong for a medium or large?
About the sizing, you said it feels a bit small for you. How tall are you actually? If I may ask.
Can I ask what your length is? I am also not sure if I need an S or M size.
couldnt you glue a losd of light mounts on the bottom bars
May I ask the frame size is? Thank you😊
I personally can't get beyond the appearance, plus if the Hood area (where I spend 90% of my time on gravel) don't flex then what is the purpose of the hover bars? I can't attach aerobars and it I can't put my elbows on top for a "aerobar" position. So in summary Looks=X, function=X, Weight=X
For some reason I like the wacky bars.
You and everyone else. They have been sold out for a long time. I am just getting mine, very exciting!
@@SuperGoonch lol
Same! Waiting for my order and the main reason why i ordered it is because i like that it is different.
As mentioned in the video, the hover bar is for helping damp big hits when you're on the tops, which is precisely never. Gimmicky proprietary nonsense I'm afraid. The AL version with a standard bar is kind of tempting though.
Totally agree. Anywhere technical needs hands ready to use brakes and gears. I only use the tops on smooth uphills of steady gradient, so an elaborate ugly talking point ruins an otherwise nice bike.
Canyon boast that there is higher stiffness in the drops. Not where I would want it
It also flexes in the hood! Tried it last year. It actually quite nice. But I didn't get used to the drop position tbh.
The flexing upper bar is definitely a nice feature, but not really a reason to buy it, because it absorbs vibrations just slightly. The splitted seat post bar (you get it with the 2.600 euro version or you can buy it separatly) is making it probably way more comfortable. But what I really do enjoy with my grail and the hoverbar: hooking in my thumbs! On rougher terrain its really nice, wouldnt wanna go back from that to a normal cockpit.
Where was this filmed?
whats your height and inseam. Its suggesting a small for me as well eventhough I ride medium in all brands. I am 5 8 and a half.
I love the bike, primarily use it on the road. I am 6ft 3 inches and their sizing recommended a large frame but I went with the XL and glad I did. I was on edge of L or XL - if I input 6-4, then they recommend XL.
Dear, what is your inseam?? Im 189 cm and 92 inseam and they recommend L. Im also in between but a little bit shorter than you. Shall i take L?
@@izzypop4005 im exactly same hight and inseam like you and i have the same problem. did you get the bike in the end?
Question. For gravel riding shouldnt the compliance be where your hands are over the roughest ground?
Exactly...what a joke
I bet if canyon had normal bars, they would have sold way more bikes. The few small benefits of the hover bars are insignificant to the list of major, unnecessary restrictions it ensues. Change the bars and I'd buy one for sure.
It would be nice if they had even one service centre where you could get hands on with the bikes before purchase. Not a network, just one place you could visit. It's a leap of faith to spend perhaps a £1,000 upwards on something you haven't seen.
Just-Pedal at Debbie's has bikes. If you rent, you get a coupon for the shipping box.
I'm in a market for a gravel bike, and it does seem Grail is the obvious choice. I do like it a lot 8not the hoverbar though :D )
The Red Barron has (3) handle bar planes on his gravel bike.
Great review. Where did you buy that garmin mount strap? Seems quite smart! :)
I'm just looking at the CF SL 8.0 ... Well when it's in stock 😁. You mentioned that a medium would have been better for you. Canyon have said a small for myself. The bike I ride now is a medium. So I'm very unsure what to order. Could I ask how tall you are?
Thank you for any advice.
Ride safe 👍🏻
On the canyon forums. Everyone says stick to what canyon recommends. Even in the video the bike doesnt look small for him. In the grail Al video you should see him ride the M size and it looks big for him. I guess this guy is around 5 feet 7
@pavlovzdog did you end up going with the medium or the small? What height are you?
Great job, but we know about Hambini.
I have a Grail di2 cf sl8 in size I´m 179 cm tall with inseam 84. I´m only 1 cm taller than they recommend for Small. Im really in doubt if I should had went for Small instead tho
Just get the Al grail then you get a regular stem and handlebar setup and a better looking bike and you'd and some $ too. Just wish they offered the gold paint scheme in men's
Can you see your computer with the mount placed on the lower bar?
Is this bike good for long distances?
Hey! What is your height and frame size you used
You normally ride a medium? How tall are you? Canyon told me I should be on a small too but for most brands, my height (70 in or 177.8 cm) puts me at a 54cm or 56cm frame. The weird sizing is definitely what holds me back on a Canyon. For the price though the specs are pretty awesome.
174cm tall, saddle at 71-72cm from BB to top of saddle. Cheers! -Matthew
@@bikeradar Thanks. Seems like a medium might be a better option for me then.
bought one!!!
Hi I am considering this bike (or the 8.0), but I am measuring 1,77 m. The split between S and M is 1,78 m apparently, but regarding what you say around 5:34, would you advice me to go with a M ? I already own a canyon Neuron M and it's fine, but I know the geometry and sizing is totally different. Thanks
How did you chose, did you order? I have the exact same measurement and have also had Neuron in M. No Canyon road/gravel bike yet but I'm always recommended an S.
@@simonshusse I took an M and it’s perfectly fine
I don't like the closed architecture attitude, where I can't swap out handle bars if it's not to my suiting. GRX and pricing are Great no doubt!
GREAT REVIEW. Every bike I've looked at thus far has put me at either medium or 56cm. Canyon however put me at small. I'm 5'10 with an inside leg of 31", What measurements does the presenter come in at? I'm considering ignoring their recommendation and going with the medium.
@Matthew Loveridge thanks very much. The measurements didn't make sense and to be honest it put me off. I've opted for a Ribble CGR SL instead.
@Matthew Loveridge I have similar dimension as you. Do you have the canyon grail? If so what size do you have? The are putting me at XS, little worried that I will get the wrong size and with covid high demand might be SOL with getting it reorder with correct size. Your feedback would be appreciated.
@@SojuForAll I'm the reviewer in the video, so see my thoughts there. If you're the same size as me I'd say the XS is definitely too small. I'd expect you to be on a small or even a medium depending on what sort of fit you want. -Matthew
@@bikeradar Thanks for the reply. I wanted to confirm you are at 174cm / 5'8.5" tall, 71cm? I am 171 cm / inseam 76cm. I have a longer torso ratio with a wingspan of 167cm / arm length 61cm. Based on your thoughts I think I am safe with a small. XS might be a little cramp is what you are saying...
Everyone to their own. That handle bar is not my thing. I guess I'm more conservative when it comes to bike styling.
Hey Matthew, what is your height and inseam length?
I am trying to figure out how you have set the seatpost.
He's 174cm. Not sure about his inseam, google didn't give that
@@maxiskritik1039 np here is where I got the information. I'm assuming this is the correct Matthew www.bikeradar.com/author/matthewloveridge/
What's the backing track?
Canyon bikes not available yet in Canada .
Got the AL 7.0 version and loving it.
Yuval Leshem youre lucky. Im still waiting for delivery :( hope the size will match (M, 178cm heigh)
How are the welds?
swillia6rider canyon don’t do welds just blobby, nobbly, mountain range welds!
@@swillia6rider they seem to hold pretty fine. Oh you mean they're not smoothed like the USA made Cannondale? Yes. They are not.
@@AdrianGrochmal I went to a bike fitter before ordering (Got this one a year ago so it's the 105 version, not the new GRX) - Sizes are in between (M is more L - I'm 184 and got a M as well), but I guess with a bit of stem and post adjustments and you're good (I flipped the stem upwards).
2000 km later and it's still an amazing ride. Remember to go tubeless - Bike comes already with rim stripes (But tubes b/c of shipping insurance), buy TL valves and sealant and you're good.
It looks a monstrocity akin to that weird double bar/scott bar greg le mond used in the tour de france. I don't mind weird frame designs for the example the kirk precision and monocoque frames. Not to my taste :(
I want one, but the sizing worries me..
How do you install and remove the brake levers on the hoverbar? I never understood it.
Rafael Malmegrin hey that’s a good question 😄. I am think the lower bar has to be removable somehow...
@@jbratt lower bar seems to be a one piece thing with the stem... it's a mistery.
Rafael Malmegrin maybe magic is involved 😀👍
That 3mm screw that hold the stem on the top of the head tube easily, and I mean easily, STRIPS. I've done it twice now. The part costs $20 from Canyon (part#164708). Canyon needs to fix this with a larger screw that doesn't strip as easily. Sorry for the rant...
For an online only company to have separate delivery costs is just a bit strange, I think.
Don't like proprietary parts- the Hover bar, I have a Specialized bike with the SCS hub which is nice put makes changing wheels a pain and expensive.
About to pull the trigger on a Grail myself. My only problem is I don’t know whether to go with carbon fiber or aluminum. Can someone please tell me if there is a ride quality difference? I’m a roadie looking for a little trail fun, I’ll guess that 60% of the time will be on road and 40% fire roads. Please help!
I’m not expert but carbon has a slight flex not as much as a steel frame tho and it is lighter. Aluminium bikes usually come with lower spec drive trains but that depends on company’s but honestly if your willing to spend more money carbon is great just get a warranty and try not to chip the frame it’s hard to repair
I wish there were more mounts on everything. Mountain bikes always had mounts back in the day and same with the steel days of road bikes. Mounts are not that unsexy.
id rather get something like the trek supercaliber
Rode a Gravel bike for 12 months on a bi-weekly basis across on 40-60k loops near where I live and I have to say I agree.
I went back to a hard tail mountain bike after feeling stuck between two worlds. The hardtail was not much slower, more comfortable and really much safer for the fire trails / single track I ride.
Why does it seem like that bar would cost $800 USD to replace?...
launchpad in forest of dean ?
Very, very polished output. I think driving electric might have checked your output before settling on their format
I have the same bike, it's super to ride!
Hi Wannes, What size did you order? I'm 71 inches tall with a 34 inch inseam. Canyon suggests a medium, although if I were 73 inches tall with the same inseam, Canyon suggests a large. I'm scared to order online and get the wrong size, plus the handlebars aren't adjustable. Do you any advice with sizing the Grail? I'd really appreciate it. Thanks