8:51 I picked Hand Drum as my starting instrument and got into a Drum off in the Goblin camp, lost and died of shame, ending my honor run. Thanks for nothing 🥲
It is just so responsible that you always point out the importance of choosing the right instrument. Thank you for not letting us ruin our honour runs!
I started my first honour mode run yesterday and happened to be doing swords bard archer. So this timing couldn't be better! Your videos have been immensely helpful in helping me (someone new to DnD) learn about the mechanics and systems in the game. There is SO much to know! Your videos condense down the information into a concise and witty format! Keep up the excellent work and I look forward to learning more!
Ive gotten my arse handed to me in 4 honour mode runs and couldn't figure out why. Bards supposed to be OP. I had a damn flute everytime... Now im breezing through with my violin. Thanks bro 🙏
@@markusmuurinen9592The violin boosts your crit rate by 10%, whereas the flute lowers the enemies crit rate by 10% when they attack you, which is nowhere near as useful.
Recap: Ranged swords-bard (bard 10/fighter 2) Level 1 Stats first Str 8 Dex 16 14 con Int 8 Wis 12 Cha 16 Respecc after gloves of dex Str 10 Dex 8 16 con Int 8 Wis 14 Cha 17 Skills Dialogue and Slight of hand (optional + stealth and less dialogue) Cantrip Minor illusion and Friends Spells Healing word Dissonent wispers Longstrider Speak with animals Level 2 Song of rest Tashas hideous laughter or Disguise self Level 3 Collage of swords Two weapon fighting Spells Cloud of daggers Slight of hand Persuation Level 4 Feat Sharpshooter Vicious mocary (synergy with band of scoundrel) Hold person Level 5 Hypnotic power (awsome cc) Level 6 Extra attack Enhance ability Level 7 (multiclass - Fighter lvl1) Shields Archery Level 8 (Fighter lvl2) Action surge Level 9 (Bard lvls again) Spells Confusion or greater invisibility Level 10 Feat Alert Spells Any will do Level 11 Spells Hold monster (enchantment + band of mystic scondrel basically a free action) Level 12 Non important picks but I prefer true strike Mystical secrets Counterspell Command (enchantment, bonus action) Items Gloves: of dex (mandetory) Bow: Titanstring/Deadshot Armor of agility/elegant studded leather 1hand: knife of the undermountain king 2hand: club of str/sentinel shield Head: Helmet of arcane acuity (together with scoundrel) Ring1: Band of mystic scoundrel (together with arcane) Ring2: Boots/amulet/cloak: Something that gives misty step or statboosts Elixir: Str/Bloodlust
Have been using your swords bard archer and after failing honor mode 6 times have made it to act III and really think I'm gonna make it this time! Thanks as always for the great videos.
Did you beat it? Disable steel watch. Beat Gortash and run away from Orin if it gets scary or you screwed up your start. Then just have gale enhance leap invisible all the way to the top to the brain and collect your golden dice. For me, it was Myrkul that wrecked my first two attempts. Got it on the third try. Good luck!
I've been playing this build for my honor mode run and it really does trivialize most combats as well as give all the awesome conversation skills. Awesome build, thanks for sharing it again!
I did a swords bard archer for my 2nd playthru on Balanced and didn't know just how absurd it was. Passing every dialogue check you'll ever get on top of everything else this build does without a doubt makes it #1 in my book aswell
One thing ab this build is that their hit rate is abysmal early game until at least level 7 if you want to keep sharpshooter on. You don’t get archery fighting style for a while since you need bard level 6 for ex attack so you need to stack up on oils of accuracy and or keep bless on them.
Just wanted to thank you for your videos. After finding your channel, I think I've spent more time watching all your videos than playing the game. I've now respecced my whole party about 3 times 😂. I definitely need to start playing again, 30 hours in act 1 and doing every side quests. I'm having so much fun! Thanks again for your build videos, they're great and very informative. Thanks!
I want to say thank you for all the builds you've done-especially the lore-friendly ones for companions. My first playthrough is a Wild Magic sorcerer, and I use a custom difficulty to set as many things close to honor mode as possible, but with the ability to see conversation rolls in advance and (especially) the ability to reload a save. It seems like the best way to experience the story the first time. I just really enjoy upping the difficulty on these games, even if I'm only just learning them, and as someone with next to no experience with DnD, these guys have taught me... everything I know thus far. It saddens me to see people ask you to "be less wordy", since the way you explain your choices in great detail and explain how to use the builds in practice is invaluable! I'm someone who learns best by getting a thorough explanation of something first, then being able to use that knowledge to do stuff for myself later on. But this game has such complex leveling, plus a lot of unhelpful/incomplete tooltips, so having someone who creates such thorough guides is, once again, invaluable. Is there any way to make a good melee bard? I really would love to have a bard with a rapier, in particular; the stereotypical flashy, dashing roguish figure as my first Dark Urge character. I'm not big on the archery style for my bard, but I'd like to have fun and still be viable on even honor mode. Thanks for all the guides you've done. You've helped ease me into the game and stopped me from starting off on the stupid foot with my builds.
I finally got Minthara in my honour mode run (first time getting her) and decided to make her a swords bard. I saw your video about the best 11 builds for honour mode and saw the build there. Thank you for making this video, it's extremely helpful to have a visual on how to build the character, especially when there are a lot of spell choices to make. I've watched a lot of your build videos to get ideas or to see how I should build a certain party member, which has inspired me to keep on trucking with this run (currently in Act 2). Thank you.
My last run was swords bard 8/ Wizard 4, scribe everything and with the headband of intellect you get 7 swappable spell slots. This also gives you summons (useful). Three feats are obviously solid. Gear is about the same, especially band of the mystic scoundrel. Being able to slot in Otto’s irresistible dance at will for boss fights is super clutch.
@@cyrylkowalczyk9392 you could but I like the feats and get the same functionality being a full spell caster, as he said in the video, swords Bard is pretty OP
I’m abit better than you, I can still hit at times with 65%, but definitely not going with sharpshooter as my first feat, I’d have to have it turned off 100% of the time in order to hit something 😂
Little thing i would Change is the Startig Class. Starting as a Fighter(or respeccing at level 7) give you proficency in Con Saves which helps with Concentration Spells
18:56 here is a thought: instead of taking two levels of fighter at lv7+8 for the _action surge_ , why not start with the two fighter levels and then switch to bard? this would free up the race selection as the only races with longbow proficiency are the elves and they don't come with shield proficiency. it's either shield or longbow - not both; unless we start as fighter. it takes six levels of bard to get the extra attack but only two fighter levels for the same feature. or is there a deeper reason to start with bard?
I actually made this build as my tactician build long before honour mode and let me tell you it is a beast. I did it slightly differently though. I started as a wood elf, With using the hags hair I got dex to 18 then used the graceful cloth to get it to 20 so I could get sharpshooter as my first feat. Allows me to keep using the Corellon's Guiding Hand gloves till act 3. This allows me to drink a potion of hill giant strength and use the titan string bow till you upgrade this with a potion of cloud giant strength. Then if you want to get alert just keep the graceful cloth on, if not take ability improvement for dex and use heavy amour. I also went 9 swords bard 3 fighter to get champion, as I use the knife of the Knife of the Undermountain King allowing me even more crits. Overall this build is crazy and I recently solo’ed honour mode with it
An updated version is really nice. Sometimes i hear things have been patch out and am not sure with videos what is currently still able to be use. Like "two handed weapon" style. So thank you :)))
Completed my first playthrough the other week, since then I have taken a few of your builds in an attempt to beat an honour mode run. Going well so far! Your explanations are concise and very helpful, keep up the great work
Fun build! This is pretty close to my preferred build for Astarion. it is what he wants to be based on his lore. Skills, stealth, charm, and spells. I go two divination Wizard as levels seven and eight, since Astarion has that whole thing of wanting to get a look at magical books. I do prefer the lightning lord for my main character. It is probably less powerful over time, but destroying absolutely everything on the field with gigantic blasts of lightning is just too fun.
Great minds think alike! This is the build I've been running for my first Honour Mode. I'm about halfway through Act 2 with only one "close call" moment so far when my hand twitched and I picked the wrong dialogue option, causing the Zhentarim to fight me and blow up my party. (My swords bard tav won initiative and managed to get far enough away right before the explosion to flee combat and return to camp). Every fight has been legitimately fun with this build!
Swords bard is my favorite. There are so many ways to take this build like you said. I love leaning fully into archer and forgetting about control spells, because why bother controlling if you can just kill everything instead? I also love the lightfoot halfling here and maxing out stealth stat with their advantage on those checks, and then taking a wizard level and learning greater invisibility to wipe out rooms before they even know you're there. Especially for a solo run, I run: 6 swords bard 1 war cleric (war charges, sanctuary, guidance) 1 wizard (learn greater invisibility, mirror image, haste) 4 fighter (archery style, action surge, champion class, feat) Max skills: Sleight of hand Stealth Intimidation Feats: Sharpshooter Ability improvement (gets dex to 20 with hag hair and starting at 17) Early game gear: Helmet: Haste helm (helps offset reduced halfling movement) Armor: Graceful Cloth Bow: Titanstring Weapon: Club of hill giant strength (to boost strength for Titanstring) Gloves: Archery Rings: Caustic band, Whispering promise (collect tons potions and heal yourself just before battle or as a bonus action to bless and improve accuracy) Amulet: Broothmother's revenge (coats your weapon for more damage every time you heal, synergizing nicely with whispering promise) Boots: Speed (click heels is extremely useful) Late game equipment leans into a crit build: Head: Sarevok horned helmet (crits) Armor: Bhaalist (get close to enemies to trigger aura of murder, also boosts initiative) Cloak: Durge Gloves: Flawed helldusk / Helldusk gloves (does fire damage, pair this with oil of combustion on your bow for groups of enemies) Rings: Caustic band, risky ring Amulet: Amulet of greater health (respec, dump con, add to wisdom or strength) Weapons: Knife undermountain king, bloodthirst (crits) Bow: Deadshot (crits, improved hit chance) Boots: Speed Elixir: Bloodlust (use a transmutation wizard hireling to make sure you always have plenty of these) Oils: Oil of accuracy (especially early game), Oil of sharpness, Oil of combustion (once you have flawed helldusk gloves) Arrows (steal tons of these all game): Many targets is your AOE. Specialty arrows should be used on appropriate enemies to conserve slashing flourishes. Elemental arrows for everything else. Strategy: Every encounter in Act 2 and 3 you decide if it's a haste fight or a greater invisibility fight depending on how many enemies there are and if it's a good opportunity for stealth. Cast mirror image for fights you expect to take hits. Use sanctuary to avoid surprise attacks and take a breather. This build can solo encounters throughout the game without needing to bother with control spells.
@@JoshSweetvale definitely I just never need to control if everything dies turn one lol. Control allows you to vary your game play more though, so maybe its more fun
Hey been watching your videos for a while now! Great content as always, hoping for more like these :D Before the dex gauntlets I found success by running 16 dex start, taking API in dex at lvl 4 and respeccing after gloves to the 8dex variant, early game felt more reliable for me that way. I also ran hand crossbow +1s (sold by merchants quite reliably) until later in the game when better bows become available, though the lightning charge bow is obviously very strong as well if want to switch off earlier. Not a big elixir enjoyer but the strength bow also comes online early on with the use of elixirs
Im using a slightly modified version of this build that is less focused on spells and moreso on weapon damage. The main difference is swapping out 2 of the bard levels with paladin levels. This gives a 3rd fighting style (probably defense) and smite and you still get a 5th level spell slot to play with so basically no matter where you are on the battle field or how far away an enemy is youll always be able to destroy someone
Although not 100% optimal, I'd also like to give a shoutout to 2 levels of paladin instead of fighter. The bonus action heal is awesome (with Oath of the Ancients), being able to smite if you get into combat is awesome, and also it makes dual wielding more fun because it's more chances to smite. I did that instead of fighter for my first run through, and it was extremely fun! Also it's another way to get command for the band of the mystic scoundrel.
@@williamking7800Plus two lockadins (one oath of ancients, one oath breaker). You’ve got four short rests in the day, might as well use them, and the extra front line help is real nice.
@@Norrieification nah. I'd go with 1. Swords Bard Archer (Titanstring) 2. Swords Bard Archer (Dead Shot) 3. "Lightning Lord" 4. Tavern Brawler I view the Lightning Lord more as an early support character focusing on Twin metamagic. Whispering Promise, Wapira's Crown and Healing Word mean bonus action Bless on two characters + self with no concentration, and Magic Weapon is great on both Bards all game long. For the last party slot you just want someone who doesn't need outside bonuses to attack, because you're just twinning the Magic Weapon and Drakethroat Glaive, not tripling them. So just any Tavern Brawler build really. Monk works, thrower E-Knight works, I'd imagine Moon Druid works.
You are also forgetting a very important part the character can also made use of. Special arrows. If you ran out of bardic points you can use special arrows to do basically the same (albeit with some exceptions). There are humanoid, undead, dragon, monstrosity, aberration, construct, and beast killing arrows that do 2 instances of damage to the correct enemy type. You are gonna be doing 2 instances of damage per attack that dont cost basically anything (only the consumable itself). Overall they do a little less damage because they dont have the additional 1d10 of flourish attack, but still pack a punch and can be of use to finish an enemy without wasting valuable resources. Arrow of many targets is specially useful because if the first attack is ciritical, all the other ones will be as well.
A great build but I disagree on two rather minor points. For a face, insight is extremely helpful so I'd choose that over the not very useful performance, and honestly a bard does not need friends. In the rather unusual event that you lose on a dialogue roll (most are impossible to lose without rolling a 1), just use one of your inspiration points. I have to recommend Guild Artisan since not only does it give you insight and persuasion, it goes off often enough that you will have a full 4 inspiration to use. I think the only time I had to use inspiration was in the Waning Moon drinking challenge where you have a large number of dialogue and stealth rolls in a row. I also like to pick up perception since a bard has plenty of points to spread around. I was just using this on my first honour run that failed not because of any weakness in the build but because I made a stupid mistake fighting Myrkul. There is no room for mistakes in honour mode. *sigh* I must admit that I prefer a lore bard but for honour mode, sword is no doubt stronger, so there you are.
Great vid as always! One thing to not sleep on is just because you have slashing flourishes doesn't mean its not worth picking up a few Arrows of Many Targets. They can be situationally better than flourishes for weaker enemies but also help make your bard charges go further into a fight.
The appropriate Arrow of Slaying is almost directly equivalent to a Flourish. I guess it's technically -1d8 and can't split targets but still, decent at going longer between rests.
@@williamking7800 Aye, theres also damage riders that the arrows would give 4 instances of, rather than 2. Rougly I'd say use the arrow for low health horde types because just-about killing 4 enemies is much better than overdamaging 2. Use the flourish for mid tier enemies with higher health pools. It's situational but worth having as an option, as we said gives you more staying power as well.
First of all thanks for showing this build. I've played 5 Honour Mode runs with at least one swords bard in my groups (first two runs failed at level 6 & 7, first successful run felt cheesed because I only did 1 bossfight in Act 3, second one went better, killed most of the bosses, but the game crashed at two points and one of them was during an important fight that wasn't going well, so it felt like cheating, even though I didn't crash the game on purpose.) Swords bards are so mighty. My fifth HM run had one Bardadin (2/10 Pal/Bard) with the Bhaalist Armour, Nayruna and the Band of the mystic scoundrel, who just went in, dished out unholy amounts of damage and then two dual hand crossbow Swords Bards and one OH TB Monk picked up everything that wasn't dead. Smoothest run ever. Why do I write this? Because my approach to the builds changed with every run (from 6 Bard/ 3 Rogue /3 Fighter to 6 Bard/6 Fighter to 10 Bard/2 Fighter) and I enjoy the explanations you give. Guess I've gotta try another run with a longbow at some point. What I want to say is that this build is extremly strong and lots of fun. The only thing I realised is that (and this is obviously not true) while there are certain meta races, somehow your character gets better when you enjoy looking at them. Failed my first two HM runs with half-elves, succeeded my first HM run with a Tiefling, the second one with a Halfling (okay, they are objectivly strong) and had the best experience with a shield dwarf. Sorry for the wall of text, I just love the game and sharing experiences. Thanks for the video again!
I’m a big fan of your channel, although I’m hoping you will continue to make videos about fun builds/interesting party compositions. I get it, people will always be interested in watching another video describing super powerful College of Swords Bard/Fighter/Gloomstalker or TB OH Monk/Berserker but this game has been released enough long time ago that there is a pretty big crowd of players like myself who finished it at least once and are looking for some inspiration to enjoy their 2nd/3rd/4th run :-) I got really inspired by your “objective fun rating” video series and darkness party composition. I’m hoping to see more of this kind of content in the future ❤
As powerful as arcane acuity and the dead shot are i actually think by using those two you miss the two best pieces of gear for this character: The ne'er misser and the diadem of arcane synergy. The diadem of arcane synergy lets you add your spellcasting modifier to your weapon damage after you inflict a condition (which you will be able to do with basically every attack that hits, either via illithid powers or a weapon coating, say the oil of combustion), and since this character gets 18 dexterity and can use the sentinel shield to get additional initiative, you can actually not take alert and just get +2 to charisma instead which is just a flat +1 damage to attacks. As for the ne'er misser, i think there are two reasons why it is the best weapon for this character. First of all, it does force damage with its weapon attacks, which alone IMO makes it a stronger pick than even the titanstring bow with a cloud giant strength elixir for so many encounters, because so many enemies are resistant to nonmagical piercing damage. The other reason is that i find the helm of arcane acuity + the band of the mystic scoundrel to be much more heavily contested by characters that can't just get offhand weapon attacks for essentially free and don't have great uses for their bonus actions, such as lockadins. This character already gets two-weapon fighting for free, so why not make use of the bonus action attacks with another attack, when other characters would benefit from those specific items so much more.
Great build video, what would you say is the ideal party setup if I went with this for my Tav? Also, do you think a Half Wood Elf would be viable for this since you can get Longbow prof when multiclassing into Fighter? Could use dual crossbows until then? Also seen your video for the top builds for honor mode, are some of them in there good to run alongside this build?
Anything works, just swap people out as story demands and keep _everyone's_ build up. One piece of advice: Endgame you're getting a caster staff that's completely broken, as well as legendary thrown, dual wield, bow, 2hander and dueling sword weapons. Oh and a shield. And a special weapon for Shadowheart. So _everyone_ can get good gear.
I used this build with two items, staff of mystras blessing on a cleric, and phalar aluve on one of my swords bard archers. phalar aluve grants +1d4 to attacks AoE and can be used every short rest. The mystras blessing turns bless into a +2d4 to attacks instead of +1d4. With these two items combined, you can offset the hit chance modifier from sharpshooter, effectively negating its downside. Between that and things like fairy fire, you can ensure all of those 6 attacks a turn always hit
I just lost my honor mode run to the lift of the gauntlet of shar not working properly. Starting up a new save and wanted to try something different than monk or fighter. This video was timed perfectly!
I honestly love that build incl 1 lvl of wizard. With the INT 17 diadem from Chapter I it offers 4 variable (from scrolls) wizard spell slots. And it is amazing party face as well. Thanks, man
Isa you go bard 6 Rogue 4 and Fighter 2 you get even better damage as you could potentially have all your 5 flourishes hit in a single round of guaranteed crits, 2 from Extra attack, 1 From AS, 1 From haste and the last one from Bloodlust, this gives you an extra 20d8 damage with an average of 180 damage from florish alone. This max out the Arcane Acuity and with the Djin ring lets you be the ultimate main character, being able to dish a huge amount of damage and still disable all of the straglers. Oh there is also the double expertise and an extra skill.
one gear recomendation i might suggest is the hat that gives arcane acuity on thunder dmg, this paired with a drake glaive that can give your bow thunder dmg and arrows of many targets can stack a bunch of arcane acuity so your spell save is super high. this is just my rec as i know gish characters all want the helmet of arcane acuity.
The 10/2 build has amazing crowd control and is generally more useful, but if you want a silly damage build with less cc: 6 swords bard/3 gloomstalker/3 assassin. Duergar for free invisibility to start every combat for an easy surprise round. Titanstring with cloud strength elixirs is +7 damage per hit vs dead shot. Diadem of arcane synergy +5 damage per hit (once cha is 20 from mirror and hag’s hair). Band of the mystic scoundrel, caustic band. Rhapsody is amazing for more hit chance, spell dc, and +3 damage. Shield with +initiative in the offhand (this build only gets sharpshooter, not alert, but gloomstalker and +initiative shield make up for it) extra crit isn’t very important since you’ll probably kill everything with automatic crits on turn 1. Bonus action can still be used on crowd control spells with band of the mystic scoundrel, or you can pick up the ascended buff in the crèche and use your bonus action on illithid powers (for even more damage).
I like this build for the endgame but its pretty underwhelming before you get to level 12 to get all three subclasses, for levels 7-11 the 10/1/1 or 10/2 or gloomstalker assassin will all feel more powerful.
@@meekrab9027 agreed, it’s definitely an endgame build, but by around level 6 it can still be quite solid once you have the slashing flourishes and extra attack.
I also recommend 10 swords bard 2 paladin as a meele alternative. It is a bit more meele focused, but you will get some useful spells like command (so you can choose something else from magical secrets) and also access to level 6 spell slot.
I'm running an HM Astarion origin loosely based on your last Swords Bard/Fighter build. I'm just about to the Myrkul fight, so I can't wait to see what I can learn here to finesse my party lead. He's already incredible tho 😍
@@nnniom OK life got in the way, so I just beat him last night. It was intense but so rewarding! I had only beat him twice on Tactician before and I refused to look it up, so I forgot he was resistant to piercing damage...that made me do way less damage with my arrows and thrown spear, but we whittled him down soon enough :D
You know it's funny I was just messing with a Bard multiclass for funzies when the algo recommended me your videos. Lotta similar gear, but I took a different approach, more like your Tactician archer build. 6 Bard (Swords), 4 Ranger (Gloom), 2 Fighter. Allows me to pick up 3 Fighting Styles (Dueling, Archery, Defense). If you use Hunter's Mark for surprise, it's amazing. You got Dread Abusher kicking your tires, plus your action, extra action, action surge, and then your surprise round. You can get off 13 shots before anyone does anything by using the gloves that get you an extra bardic inspiration (total of 5). Throw in the Ambusher, with 1-6 Necro on first round, Caustic Band for 2 Acid, and you have a monster first turn once per short rest. Don't need Alert, you get +3 Initiative from Dread Ambusher, and you just pump your Dex to 18/20, Con at 16, Cha at 14/16. You don't get the awesome spells of this build, But you can pick up a couple utility spells from Ranger and you get a couple Level 4's off Bard. Probably godly on an Astarion playthrough to add another 1-10 Necro to each weapon attack after ascending.
Great video. Sword bard archer really is the most broken class in the game. 9 attacks by level 8 not counting haste or bloodlust if you do 6 bard 2 fighter
How would you change this build if someone wanted to use a Sword Bard for melee in Honour mode? Having a full team of throwers, casters, and ranged dps is just so bland. All Larian encounters become too trivial as soon as you're doing the same damage half a screen away.
I used this build in tactician game I just finished. I really like using the Gontre Mael longbow from the boss at the Steel Watch Foundry in the end game
I beat honour mode with this as my main char. halfling was an amazing choice, I think over the entire run I had only 2 critical fails on anything. Went straight to the circus in act 3 and pretty much every boss fight after that I killed the boss before they even had a turn. I had some small issues with the steel watcher titan because hitting 40 dmg minimum was difficult even with a bunch of disintegrate scrolls. I never want to use this build again because it kinda takes the fun out of combat but that is kind of the point of course.
What about multi-classing with 2 levels of War Priest instead of Fighter? You get 3 uses of extra attack as a bonus action per day. While not quite as powerful as Action Surge, it can be used multiple times in a single fight. This also opens up Command and Sanctuary for spell use, grants heavy armor + shields, and at level 2 you get +10 to attack rolls with Divinity Charges. Then at 10 bard you're free to grab Hunger of Hadar instead of command. On top of all this, you're a 12th level caster. You won't have level 6 spells, but you get to up cast a spell to lvl 6
Im currently running this for my first dark urge + first honor mode run and I'm veeeeeery tempted to sacrifice a level of fighter for fiend warlock, sacrificing action surge for a bunch of little bonuses including a free command so i can get something else on my magical secrets with my final level
I'm literally at Baldur's Gate and if you pair this (bardic inspiration specifically) with Minthara (or any vengeance pally)... It's unfair to the game. Advantage, on smites, with crit smites, with multiple attacks, bless from cleric... Unfair to the game. Spoiler: I just finished moon rise towers and Minthara one shot Ketherick on the roof. With like 38% chance to hit.
@BastardZombieKiller1 Holy crap. I need that kind of damage in my life. Merkel is the worst part of Honor Mode for me. Hoping this will nuke him too. Thanks for the suggestion. 🙂👍
I made my Astarion a full 12 levels of fighter and just made him use a bow and heavy armor and he kills almost everything in his opening turn because he can take so many damn shots that if you use that bellyglummer poison and some of those arrows of many targets you can really lay the hurt on groups of enemies who can be poisoned. It also helps that between gear, feats, and illithid powers I think I'm landing crits on 16-20 and can specifically choose when to crit 2-3 times and I use the blood thirst elixir or whatever it's called. Anyway my point is I'm going to have to try this because it seems like I may be able to get even more attacks per turn which I would definitely like to try.
This is my current Tav in my first Honour Mode run (3rd playthrough). I'm using your "Crush Honour Mode" party build from a couple months ago and it is just running over everyone in Act 3. I just killed Orin before she could take an action by using hold person from my Bard. She turned into the Slayer and was still held (Who needs Hold Monster? Not me.) We killed her in one turn with nearly a full health bar and Unstoppable 12. It was one of my favorite single turns in the entire game. Just bananas. Not sure if you've done these yet but i have suggestions for new videos: Best Build for a Solo Honour Mode Best Build for Solo Honour Mode with No Resting (inspired by the streamer Luality's latest solo honour mode run)
This was my first character and I had no idea how powerful it would be for a while. 12 lvs of bard though. I kept charisma at 16 and went full dual crossbow early on. I used some kind of construct gloves for a long time to get advantage with sharpshooter. I had 24 dex in the end. Using the mirror of what was it again, I’ve forgotten? And also being a deep gnome there was a pair of gloves that boosted dex +2 only for gnomes. I got lucky on my race choice. Advantage on stealth worked great with greater invisibility, though I probably should have taken proficiency in it and I didn’t. 2 Ranged flourish, arcane acuity, hold person/monster/confuse etc as a bonus action with 100% accuracy or close! You know I went first with 24 dex. No shield as gnome but that’s a 7 AC dex boost on medium armor of agility.
I used this build in honor mode as a Drow and man the game felt a little too easy if i could not talk my way through it everything got deleted, used it along side that you're stuck here with me paladin cleric build you have up
I have 350 hours on the ps5 version of this game. Swords bard is so far and away the best class in the game it’s not close. Im killing 2 enemies and getting a 3rd very low in 1 turn. My teammates combine to kill 1 maybe. Was in the crèche at level 7 in honor mode fighting the shopkeeper and her posse, got disarmed from my titanstring bow first turn of combat, turned into the best controller in the game. It’s not fair. I genuinely believe it’s the only class you could have 4 of and not struggle
Respec at level 8 and take fighter first? You get access to heavy armor. Yes you lose stealth but with crowd control ability and upping survival for honor mode. Not sure if that’s viable since it’s a build only in my head
I personally prefer my own version of swords bard multiclass: 1 Wizard 1 War Cleric 10 Swords bard It's truly have been the perfect control martial, jack of all trades for me.
Im addicted to using the Graceful Cloth for sleight of hand checks. How detrimental to a build is using that over say the Gloves of Dexterity slot? I know it'll result in much lower AC, but I could put something else in the gloves slot potentially.
I’ve been using Graceful cloth and currently in Act 3. I have a shield on him which boosts his defense. I also have heavy damage party and a healer when necessary in a pinch. He went down once so far in my entire playthrough and that was user error lol.
The one drawback I see is the late Alert. Initiative becomes increasingly important as you get into late act 2…especially against Ketherick and Balthazar, who can both fuck you up pretty badly if you let them go first, and the forced surprise encounters can be really brutal. Also, your math on number of attacks ignores the fact that you have limited inspiration dice. At level 6 you have 4; this means 8 attacks max. Totally broken, but much like the Gloomstalker, it drops off dramatically after the first round, as you can burn through all 4 with action surge or haste.
@@williamking7800 I have used it. It's OK I guess; trading a 1 time small burst for overall more agility of target selection isn't a win _for me_, but everyone has different styles.
Can you do a video on item debates…for example Titanstring bow vs deadshot vs legendary bow Bhallist armor+nyurulna vs armor of persistence+balduran giantslayer The best heavy/medium and light armors… For example…if you don’t do any other piercing damage and you only have one frontline character this item could be better. How to distribute contested items in your party builds…what to replace thrower with on the last fight if the bug on last fight still exists (I currently think either an archer martial, so swords bard, ranged fighter, or one of the viable ranger builds. With swords bard only being worse if you already have a bard or don’t want 2) Is haste a good cast at max level for sorcerors who twin it, if not, at what level do we stop casting it. If we do on whom and why I think you could call addressing ideas like this “honor mode masterclass/honor mode 201” I personally find your videos the most entertaining of BG3 creators and would love to see you breakdown the best longbow debate in detail and depending on party composition. Also what about all those damage on crit items that from the bhallists, how good are they if we build a party around hold person/monster…etc
hm in general this build videos share one big issue all the time: they never go into detail on how to start a run with that build. This starting stats is defined by: without the items i will never hit anything.
I'm doing a 1 fighter/1 wizard/10 swords bard so that I can get another user of the level 6 summon elemental and summon deva, if you give him an ability to regain a 6th level slot. That way it is like you have a third magical secret. Also this would be a good character to hold the shadow lantern to have that additional summon
Hi, can you plz make best item combinations by acts analysis. Im in the middle of a run on honor mode and cant experiment freely and youtube is full of outdated/not working cobinations.
Swords Bard is like if Tavern Brawler was a class. Just unreal in how strong it is. It also makes me sad that they put Swords and Valour as two of the subclasses in BG3, as even though Valour is a perfectly playable subclass on its own (and actually REALLY strong!), it's so overshadowed by Swords Bard being the same thing but better that it's hard to justify playing Valour. I wish they went with something that was a departure from both Swords and Lore, like Creation or Whispers.
Can you do a full party build video with a necromancy theme? I did a darkness based party for my good leaning playthrough (for whatever reason lol) and now I'm trying to figure out what kind of party I should do for an evil run and I feel like necromancy would be cool
8:51 I picked Hand Drum as my starting instrument and got into a Drum off in the Goblin camp, lost and died of shame, ending my honor run. Thanks for nothing 🥲
What an absolute madman
Jesus how clear can the instructions be? Pick the right instrument. That one's on you my friend
Lute All the way
This is why I try to warn people - it's dangerous out there! Thanks so much for the support!
Lyre! I rather like using the swanky quest item with its own tune
Bard: Jack of all trades, Master of.. all trades
Exactly!
Thank you
It is just so responsible that you always point out the importance of choosing the right instrument. Thank you for not letting us ruin our honour runs!
And do not forget to pick up True Strike at some point, also a really crucial part of every charcter build.
Every video is a public service
The true measure of a quality of a run is how many True Strikes you can cast during boss battles.
I always fail here since there is no saxophone in BG. 😢lol jk
I started my first honour mode run yesterday and happened to be doing swords bard archer. So this timing couldn't be better!
Your videos have been immensely helpful in helping me (someone new to DnD) learn about the mechanics and systems in the game. There is SO much to know! Your videos condense down the information into a concise and witty format!
Keep up the excellent work and I look forward to learning more!
Thanks so much for the support and the kind words - I really appreciate it! Good luck with the run :D
did u win
Ive gotten my arse handed to me in 4 honour mode runs and couldn't figure out why. Bards supposed to be OP.
I had a damn flute everytime... Now im breezing through with my violin. Thanks bro 🙏
Choosing the flute is objectively the worst possible class choice in the entire game, surprised you held your sanity for 4 playthroughs
is the instrument choice some sort of D&D Joke i'm too new to understand or does it actually make some difference?
@@markusmuurinen9592 totally makes a difference my guy. Don't listen to anyone who says it doesn't. I wasn't kidding in my post. GL
Violin is the best instrument btw, that goes for irl too
@@markusmuurinen9592The violin boosts your crit rate by 10%, whereas the flute lowers the enemies crit rate by 10% when they attack you, which is nowhere near as useful.
Your builds got me through honor mode on the first try (after tons of tactician practice, that is). Thanks much!
Thanks so much for the extremely generous support! I really appreciate it - congrats on the win! Awesome to hear :D
Recap:
Ranged swords-bard (bard 10/fighter 2)
Level 1
Stats first
Str 8
Dex 16
14 con
Int 8
Wis 12
Cha 16
Respecc after gloves of dex
Str 10
Dex 8
16 con
Int 8
Wis 14
Cha 17
Skills
Dialogue and Slight of hand (optional + stealth and less dialogue)
Cantrip
Minor illusion and Friends
Spells
Healing word
Dissonent wispers
Longstrider
Speak with animals
Level 2
Song of rest
Tashas hideous laughter or Disguise self
Level 3
Collage of swords
Two weapon fighting
Spells
Cloud of daggers
Slight of hand
Persuation
Level 4
Feat
Sharpshooter
Vicious mocary (synergy with band of scoundrel)
Hold person
Level 5
Hypnotic power (awsome cc)
Level 6
Extra attack
Enhance ability
Level 7 (multiclass - Fighter lvl1)
Shields
Archery
Level 8 (Fighter lvl2)
Action surge
Level 9 (Bard lvls again)
Spells
Confusion or greater invisibility
Level 10
Feat
Alert
Spells
Any will do
Level 11
Spells
Hold monster (enchantment + band of mystic scondrel basically a free action)
Level 12
Non important picks but I prefer true strike
Mystical secrets
Counterspell
Command (enchantment, bonus action)
Items
Gloves: of dex (mandetory)
Bow: Titanstring/Deadshot
Armor of agility/elegant studded leather
1hand: knife of the undermountain king
2hand: club of str/sentinel shield
Head: Helmet of arcane acuity (together with scoundrel)
Ring1: Band of mystic scoundrel (together with arcane)
Ring2:
Boots/amulet/cloak: Something that gives misty step or statboosts
Elixir: Str/Bloodlust
thank you so much
You forgot the instrument 😢
MVP
MVP ong
what about final spells?
Have been using your swords bard archer and after failing honor mode 6 times have made it to act III and really think I'm gonna make it this time! Thanks as always for the great videos.
Nice - good luck!
Good for you, make sure to pick up the deadshot bow and armor of agility from the vendors outside of sorceries sundries
Did you beat it?
Disable steel watch. Beat Gortash and run away from Orin if it gets scary or you screwed up your start.
Then just have gale enhance leap invisible all the way to the top to the brain and collect your golden dice.
For me, it was Myrkul that wrecked my first two attempts. Got it on the third try.
Good luck!
@@k1lay the golden dice is ugly anyway, waiting for mods to make costume dices. Black with white/grey numbers or Teal dices
I've been playing this build for my honor mode run and it really does trivialize most combats as well as give all the awesome conversation skills. Awesome build, thanks for sharing it again!
I did a swords bard archer for my 2nd playthru on Balanced and didn't know just how absurd it was. Passing every dialogue check you'll ever get on top of everything else this build does without a doubt makes it #1 in my book aswell
Yeah it's really strange they went with "all upsides, no downsides" as a class design
Even better with a Halfling, the other races have more failures with dice rolls and ability checks. Gythianki is the second best choice.
One thing ab this build is that their hit rate is abysmal early game until at least level 7 if you want to keep sharpshooter on. You don’t get archery fighting style for a while since you need bard level 6 for ex attack so you need to stack up on oils of accuracy and or keep bless on them.
Don't turn on SS unless your hit chance is over 75% or 80% with it.
Just get the risky ring
Just wanted to thank you for your videos. After finding your channel, I think I've spent more time watching all your videos than playing the game. I've now respecced my whole party about 3 times 😂. I definitely need to start playing again, 30 hours in act 1 and doing every side quests. I'm having so much fun! Thanks again for your build videos, they're great and very informative. Thanks!
A person named “No imagination” supporting a build video is the best thing I’ve heard today.
I want to say thank you for all the builds you've done-especially the lore-friendly ones for companions. My first playthrough is a Wild Magic sorcerer, and I use a custom difficulty to set as many things close to honor mode as possible, but with the ability to see conversation rolls in advance and (especially) the ability to reload a save. It seems like the best way to experience the story the first time. I just really enjoy upping the difficulty on these games, even if I'm only just learning them, and as someone with next to no experience with DnD, these guys have taught me... everything I know thus far.
It saddens me to see people ask you to "be less wordy", since the way you explain your choices in great detail and explain how to use the builds in practice is invaluable! I'm someone who learns best by getting a thorough explanation of something first, then being able to use that knowledge to do stuff for myself later on. But this game has such complex leveling, plus a lot of unhelpful/incomplete tooltips, so having someone who creates such thorough guides is, once again, invaluable.
Is there any way to make a good melee bard? I really would love to have a bard with a rapier, in particular; the stereotypical flashy, dashing roguish figure as my first Dark Urge character. I'm not big on the archery style for my bard, but I'd like to have fun and still be viable on even honor mode.
Thanks for all the guides you've done. You've helped ease me into the game and stopped me from starting off on the stupid foot with my builds.
I finally got Minthara in my honour mode run (first time getting her) and decided to make her a swords bard. I saw your video about the best 11 builds for honour mode and saw the build there. Thank you for making this video, it's extremely helpful to have a visual on how to build the character, especially when there are a lot of spell choices to make. I've watched a lot of your build videos to get ideas or to see how I should build a certain party member, which has inspired me to keep on trucking with this run (currently in Act 2). Thank you.
How dare you!?
Thanks!
Thanks very much for the support! I really appreciate it - it really means a lot :D
My last run was swords bard 8/ Wizard 4, scribe everything and with the headband of intellect you get 7 swappable spell slots. This also gives you summons (useful). Three feats are obviously solid. Gear is about the same, especially band of the mystic scoundrel. Being able to slot in Otto’s irresistible dance at will for boss fights is super clutch.
Make it 6/6 split and you get sharpshooter necromancer ;)
@@cyrylkowalczyk9392 you could but I like the feats and get the same functionality being a full spell caster, as he said in the video, swords Bard is pretty OP
@@ecbrown6151 It is quite funny how taking most levels as Mood Druid, Swords Bard or Cleric effectively makes interesting wizard subclass :)
"as a general rule if your chance to hit is around 30% don't try"
Brother anything below 70% is a 100% chance to miss for me, the dice gods hate me.
I’m abit better than you, I can still hit at times with 65%, but definitely not going with sharpshooter as my first feat, I’d have to have it turned off 100% of the time in order to hit something 😂
Little thing i would Change is the Startig Class. Starting as a Fighter(or respeccing at level 7) give you proficency in Con Saves which helps with Concentration Spells
18:56 here is a thought: instead of taking two levels of fighter at lv7+8 for the _action surge_ , why not start with the two fighter levels and then switch to bard? this would free up the race selection as the only races with longbow proficiency are the elves and they don't come with shield proficiency. it's either shield or longbow - not both; unless we start as fighter. it takes six levels of bard to get the extra attack but only two fighter levels for the same feature.
or is there a deeper reason to start with bard?
I actually made this build as my tactician build long before honour mode and let me tell you it is a beast. I did it slightly differently though.
I started as a wood elf, With using the hags hair I got dex to 18 then used the graceful cloth to get it to 20 so I could get sharpshooter as my first feat. Allows me to keep using the Corellon's Guiding Hand gloves till act 3. This allows me to drink a potion of hill giant strength and use the titan string bow till you upgrade this with a potion of cloud giant strength. Then if you want to get alert just keep the graceful cloth on, if not take ability improvement for dex and use heavy amour. I also went 9 swords bard 3 fighter to get champion, as I use the knife of the Knife of the Undermountain King allowing me even more crits. Overall this build is crazy and I recently solo’ed honour mode with it
An updated version is really nice. Sometimes i hear things have been patch out and am not sure with videos what is currently still able to be use. Like "two handed weapon" style.
So thank you :)))
Completed my first playthrough the other week, since then I have taken a few of your builds in an attempt to beat an honour mode run. Going well so far! Your explanations are concise and very helpful, keep up the great work
Fun build! This is pretty close to my preferred build for Astarion. it is what he wants to be based on his lore. Skills, stealth, charm, and spells. I go two divination Wizard as levels seven and eight, since Astarion has that whole thing of wanting to get a look at magical books.
I do prefer the lightning lord for my main character. It is probably less powerful over time, but destroying absolutely everything on the field with gigantic blasts of lightning is just too fun.
Great minds think alike! This is the build I've been running for my first Honour Mode. I'm about halfway through Act 2 with only one "close call" moment so far when my hand twitched and I picked the wrong dialogue option, causing the Zhentarim to fight me and blow up my party. (My swords bard tav won initiative and managed to get far enough away right before the explosion to flee combat and return to camp). Every fight has been legitimately fun with this build!
Swords bard is my favorite. There are so many ways to take this build like you said. I love leaning fully into archer and forgetting about control spells, because why bother controlling if you can just kill everything instead? I also love the lightfoot halfling here and maxing out stealth stat with their advantage on those checks, and then taking a wizard level and learning greater invisibility to wipe out rooms before they even know you're there.
Especially for a solo run, I run:
6 swords bard
1 war cleric (war charges, sanctuary, guidance)
1 wizard (learn greater invisibility, mirror image, haste)
4 fighter (archery style, action surge, champion class, feat)
Max skills:
Sleight of hand
Stealth
Intimidation
Feats:
Sharpshooter
Ability improvement (gets dex to 20 with hag hair and starting at 17)
Early game gear:
Helmet: Haste helm (helps offset reduced halfling movement)
Armor: Graceful Cloth
Bow: Titanstring
Weapon: Club of hill giant strength (to boost strength for Titanstring)
Gloves: Archery
Rings: Caustic band, Whispering promise (collect tons potions and heal yourself just before battle or as a bonus action to bless and improve accuracy)
Amulet: Broothmother's revenge (coats your weapon for more damage every time you heal, synergizing nicely with whispering promise)
Boots: Speed (click heels is extremely useful)
Late game equipment leans into a crit build:
Head: Sarevok horned helmet (crits)
Armor: Bhaalist (get close to enemies to trigger aura of murder, also boosts initiative)
Cloak: Durge
Gloves: Flawed helldusk / Helldusk gloves (does fire damage, pair this with oil of combustion on your bow for groups of enemies)
Rings: Caustic band, risky ring
Amulet: Amulet of greater health (respec, dump con, add to wisdom or strength)
Weapons: Knife undermountain king, bloodthirst (crits)
Bow: Deadshot (crits, improved hit chance)
Boots: Speed
Elixir: Bloodlust (use a transmutation wizard hireling to make sure you always have plenty of these)
Oils: Oil of accuracy (especially early game), Oil of sharpness, Oil of combustion (once you have flawed helldusk gloves)
Arrows (steal tons of these all game): Many targets is your AOE. Specialty arrows should be used on appropriate enemies to conserve slashing flourishes. Elemental arrows for everything else.
Strategy:
Every encounter in Act 2 and 3 you decide if it's a haste fight or a greater invisibility fight depending on how many enemies there are and if it's a good opportunity for stealth. Cast mirror image for fights you expect to take hits. Use sanctuary to avoid surprise attacks and take a breather.
This build can solo encounters throughout the game without needing to bother with control spells.
With the Ring of the Scoundrel (?) you can do both! Cast spells with bonus actions!
@@JoshSweetvale definitely I just never need to control if everything dies turn one lol. Control allows you to vary your game play more though, so maybe its more fun
Hey been watching your videos for a while now! Great content as always, hoping for more like these :D Before the dex gauntlets I found success by running 16 dex start, taking API in dex at lvl 4 and respeccing after gloves to the 8dex variant, early game felt more reliable for me that way. I also ran hand crossbow +1s (sold by merchants quite reliably) until later in the game when better bows become available, though the lightning charge bow is obviously very strong as well if want to switch off earlier. Not a big elixir enjoyer but the strength bow also comes online early on with the use of elixirs
I love that you are going over your top 11 builds now!! I was going to ask about that
I wanted to start a bard TODAY for my first honour mode playthrough and here we are. Love it
thanks for the info. Recently discovered your content and its been really useful!
Im using a slightly modified version of this build that is less focused on spells and moreso on weapon damage. The main difference is swapping out 2 of the bard levels with paladin levels. This gives a 3rd fighting style (probably defense) and smite and you still get a 5th level spell slot to play with so basically no matter where you are on the battle field or how far away an enemy is youll always be able to destroy someone
Thank you for this. I wondered about the build
Although not 100% optimal, I'd also like to give a shoutout to 2 levels of paladin instead of fighter. The bonus action heal is awesome (with Oath of the Ancients), being able to smite if you get into combat is awesome, and also it makes dual wielding more fun because it's more chances to smite. I did that instead of fighter for my first run through, and it was extremely fun! Also it's another way to get command for the band of the mystic scoundrel.
"Any party"
......LEGEND OF ZELDA FOUR SWORDS BARDS
I tried this. I didn't feel there was enough good equipment to go around
Two is the perfect number
@@williamking7800Plus two lockadins (one oath of ancients, one oath breaker). You’ve got four short rests in the day, might as well use them, and the extra front line help is real nice.
@@Norrieification nah. I'd go with
1. Swords Bard Archer (Titanstring)
2. Swords Bard Archer (Dead Shot)
3. "Lightning Lord"
4. Tavern Brawler
I view the Lightning Lord more as an early support character focusing on Twin metamagic. Whispering Promise, Wapira's Crown and Healing Word mean bonus action Bless on two characters + self with no concentration, and Magic Weapon is great on both Bards all game long.
For the last party slot you just want someone who doesn't need outside bonuses to attack, because you're just twinning the Magic Weapon and Drakethroat Glaive, not tripling them. So just any Tavern Brawler build really. Monk works, thrower E-Knight works, I'd imagine Moon Druid works.
You are also forgetting a very important part the character can also made use of. Special arrows.
If you ran out of bardic points you can use special arrows to do basically the same (albeit with some exceptions). There are humanoid, undead, dragon, monstrosity, aberration, construct, and beast killing arrows that do 2 instances of damage to the correct enemy type. You are gonna be doing 2 instances of damage per attack that dont cost basically anything (only the consumable itself). Overall they do a little less damage because they dont have the additional 1d10 of flourish attack, but still pack a punch and can be of use to finish an enemy without wasting valuable resources. Arrow of many targets is specially useful because if the first attack is ciritical, all the other ones will be as well.
Love your videos man
A great build but I disagree on two rather minor points. For a face, insight is extremely helpful so I'd choose that over the not very useful performance, and honestly a bard does not need friends. In the rather unusual event that you lose on a dialogue roll (most are impossible to lose without rolling a 1), just use one of your inspiration points. I have to recommend Guild Artisan since not only does it give you insight and persuasion, it goes off often enough that you will have a full 4 inspiration to use. I think the only time I had to use inspiration was in the Waning Moon drinking challenge where you have a large number of dialogue and stealth rolls in a row. I also like to pick up perception since a bard has plenty of points to spread around. I was just using this on my first honour run that failed not because of any weakness in the build but because I made a stupid mistake fighting Myrkul. There is no room for mistakes in honour mode. *sigh* I must admit that I prefer a lore bard but for honour mode, sword is no doubt stronger, so there you are.
Great vid as always! One thing to not sleep on is just because you have slashing flourishes doesn't mean its not worth picking up a few Arrows of Many Targets. They can be situationally better than flourishes for weaker enemies but also help make your bard charges go further into a fight.
The appropriate Arrow of Slaying is almost directly equivalent to a Flourish. I guess it's technically -1d8 and can't split targets but still, decent at going longer between rests.
@@williamking7800 Aye, theres also damage riders that the arrows would give 4 instances of, rather than 2. Rougly I'd say use the arrow for low health horde types because just-about killing 4 enemies is much better than overdamaging 2. Use the flourish for mid tier enemies with higher health pools. It's situational but worth having as an option, as we said gives you more staying power as well.
First of all thanks for showing this build. I've played 5 Honour Mode runs with at least one swords bard in my groups (first two runs failed at level 6 & 7, first successful run felt cheesed because I only did 1 bossfight in Act 3, second one went better, killed most of the bosses, but the game crashed at two points and one of them was during an important fight that wasn't going well, so it felt like cheating, even though I didn't crash the game on purpose.)
Swords bards are so mighty. My fifth HM run had one Bardadin (2/10 Pal/Bard) with the Bhaalist Armour, Nayruna and the Band of the mystic scoundrel, who just went in, dished out unholy amounts of damage and then two dual hand crossbow Swords Bards and one OH TB Monk picked up everything that wasn't dead. Smoothest run ever.
Why do I write this? Because my approach to the builds changed with every run (from 6 Bard/ 3 Rogue /3 Fighter to 6 Bard/6 Fighter to 10 Bard/2 Fighter) and I enjoy the explanations you give. Guess I've gotta try another run with a longbow at some point. What I want to say is that this build is extremly strong and lots of fun.
The only thing I realised is that (and this is obviously not true) while there are certain meta races, somehow your character gets better when you enjoy looking at them. Failed my first two HM runs with half-elves, succeeded my first HM run with a Tiefling, the second one with a Halfling (okay, they are objectivly strong) and had the best experience with a shield dwarf.
Sorry for the wall of text, I just love the game and sharing experiences. Thanks for the video again!
I just spent 20 minutes trying to work out which instrument I should choose because that comment at the beginning gave me fomo anxiety lol
I’m a big fan of your channel, although I’m hoping you will continue to make videos about fun builds/interesting party compositions. I get it, people will always be interested in watching another video describing super powerful College of Swords Bard/Fighter/Gloomstalker or TB OH Monk/Berserker but this game has been released enough long time ago that there is a pretty big crowd of players like myself who finished it at least once and are looking for some inspiration to enjoy their 2nd/3rd/4th run :-)
I got really inspired by your “objective fun rating” video series and darkness party composition. I’m hoping to see more of this kind of content in the future ❤
As powerful as arcane acuity and the dead shot are i actually think by using those two you miss the two best pieces of gear for this character: The ne'er misser and the diadem of arcane synergy.
The diadem of arcane synergy lets you add your spellcasting modifier to your weapon damage after you inflict a condition (which you will be able to do with basically every attack that hits, either via illithid powers or a weapon coating, say the oil of combustion), and since this character gets 18 dexterity and can use the sentinel shield to get additional initiative, you can actually not take alert and just get +2 to charisma instead which is just a flat +1 damage to attacks.
As for the ne'er misser, i think there are two reasons why it is the best weapon for this character. First of all, it does force damage with its weapon attacks, which alone IMO makes it a stronger pick than even the titanstring bow with a cloud giant strength elixir for so many encounters, because so many enemies are resistant to nonmagical piercing damage. The other reason is that i find the helm of arcane acuity + the band of the mystic scoundrel to be much more heavily contested by characters that can't just get offhand weapon attacks for essentially free and don't have great uses for their bonus actions, such as lockadins. This character already gets two-weapon fighting for free, so why not make use of the bonus action attacks with another attack, when other characters would benefit from those specific items so much more.
Great build video, what would you say is the ideal party setup if I went with this for my Tav?
Also, do you think a Half Wood Elf would be viable for this since you can get Longbow prof when multiclassing into Fighter? Could use dual crossbows until then?
Also seen your video for the top builds for honor mode, are some of them in there good to run alongside this build?
Anything works, just swap people out as story demands and keep _everyone's_ build up.
One piece of advice: Endgame you're getting a caster staff that's completely broken, as well as legendary thrown, dual wield, bow, 2hander and dueling sword weapons. Oh and a shield. And a special weapon for Shadowheart. So _everyone_ can get good gear.
I used this build with two items, staff of mystras blessing on a cleric, and phalar aluve on one of my swords bard archers. phalar aluve grants +1d4 to attacks AoE and can be used every short rest. The mystras blessing turns bless into a +2d4 to attacks instead of +1d4. With these two items combined, you can offset the hit chance modifier from sharpshooter, effectively negating its downside. Between that and things like fairy fire, you can ensure all of those 6 attacks a turn always hit
I just lost my honor mode run to the lift of the gauntlet of shar not working properly. Starting up a new save and wanted to try something different than monk or fighter. This video was timed perfectly!
I honestly love that build incl 1 lvl of wizard. With the INT 17 diadem from Chapter I it offers 4 variable (from scrolls) wizard spell slots. And it is amazing party face as well. Thanks, man
Isa you go bard 6 Rogue 4 and Fighter 2 you get even better damage as you could potentially have all your 5 flourishes hit in a single round of guaranteed crits, 2 from Extra attack, 1 From AS, 1 From haste and the last one from Bloodlust, this gives you an extra 20d8 damage with an average of 180 damage from florish alone. This max out the Arcane Acuity and with the Djin ring lets you be the ultimate main character, being able to dish a huge amount of damage and still disable all of the straglers. Oh there is also the double expertise and an extra skill.
Omg, thanks! I just thought about my first Honour Hode run. I`m planing to take Dark Urde and make him nice
one gear recomendation i might suggest is the hat that gives arcane acuity on thunder dmg, this paired with a drake glaive that can give your bow thunder dmg and arrows of many targets can stack a bunch of arcane acuity so your spell save is super high. this is just my rec as i know gish characters all want the helmet of arcane acuity.
The 10/2 build has amazing crowd control and is generally more useful, but if you want a silly damage build with less cc: 6 swords bard/3 gloomstalker/3 assassin. Duergar for free invisibility to start every combat for an easy surprise round. Titanstring with cloud strength elixirs is +7 damage per hit vs dead shot. Diadem of arcane synergy +5 damage per hit (once cha is 20 from mirror and hag’s hair). Band of the mystic scoundrel, caustic band. Rhapsody is amazing for more hit chance, spell dc, and +3 damage. Shield with +initiative in the offhand (this build only gets sharpshooter, not alert, but gloomstalker and +initiative shield make up for it) extra crit isn’t very important since you’ll probably kill everything with automatic crits on turn 1. Bonus action can still be used on crowd control spells with band of the mystic scoundrel, or you can pick up the ascended buff in the crèche and use your bonus action on illithid powers (for even more damage).
I like this build for the endgame but its pretty underwhelming before you get to level 12 to get all three subclasses, for levels 7-11 the 10/1/1 or 10/2 or gloomstalker assassin will all feel more powerful.
@@meekrab9027 agreed, it’s definitely an endgame build, but by around level 6 it can still be quite solid once you have the slashing flourishes and extra attack.
Is this build (bard/fighter or bard/rogue/ranger) better than typical gloomstaker assassin?
@@kruk_66 Absolutely, swords bard gets (ranged) slashing flourish which pretty much lets you attack twice as much.
I also recommend 10 swords bard 2 paladin as a meele alternative. It is a bit more meele focused, but you will get some useful spells like command (so you can choose something else from magical secrets) and also access to level 6 spell slot.
Love your videos mate ❤
I'm running an HM Astarion origin loosely based on your last Swords Bard/Fighter build. I'm just about to the Myrkul fight, so I can't wait to see what I can learn here to finesse my party lead. He's already incredible tho 😍
let us know how it went ;; I'm just behind you in the tower fight
I have to work this weekend, so I won't know until Mon or Tuesday, but I'm excited now that I see I'm not screwing up my build so far lol
@@nnniom OK life got in the way, so I just beat him last night. It was intense but so rewarding! I had only beat him twice on Tactician before and I refused to look it up, so I forgot he was resistant to piercing damage...that made me do way less damage with my arrows and thrown spear, but we whittled him down soon enough :D
Bests builds never leave home without true strike.
You know it's funny I was just messing with a Bard multiclass for funzies when the algo recommended me your videos.
Lotta similar gear, but I took a different approach, more like your Tactician archer build. 6 Bard (Swords), 4 Ranger (Gloom), 2 Fighter. Allows me to pick up 3 Fighting Styles (Dueling, Archery, Defense). If you use Hunter's Mark for surprise, it's amazing. You got Dread Abusher kicking your tires, plus your action, extra action, action surge, and then your surprise round. You can get off 13 shots before anyone does anything by using the gloves that get you an extra bardic inspiration (total of 5). Throw in the Ambusher, with 1-6 Necro on first round, Caustic Band for 2 Acid, and you have a monster first turn once per short rest.
Don't need Alert, you get +3 Initiative from Dread Ambusher, and you just pump your Dex to 18/20, Con at 16, Cha at 14/16.
You don't get the awesome spells of this build, But you can pick up a couple utility spells from Ranger and you get a couple Level 4's off Bard.
Probably godly on an Astarion playthrough to add another 1-10 Necro to each weapon attack after ascending.
So what is the right instrument I don't want my bard run ruin please respond 😢😢😢
What do you expect him to do, just give away all of the secrets? Or do you just think the meme will be even funnier the fourth time?
This got me my first honor run clear
Nice, congrats!
Great video. Sword bard archer really is the most broken class in the game. 9 attacks by level 8 not counting haste or bloodlust if you do 6 bard 2 fighter
I have completed this game many times and even one honour mode run and a couple of tactician and I have never used minor illusion.
How would you change this build if someone wanted to use a Sword Bard for melee in Honour mode?
Having a full team of throwers, casters, and ranged dps is just so bland. All Larian encounters become too trivial as soon as you're doing the same damage half a screen away.
My first playthrough as bard I picked the lute, I didn’t realize how terrible it was until act 3 and I couldn’t go back
I used this build in tactician game I just finished. I really like using the Gontre Mael longbow from the boss at the Steel Watch Foundry in the end game
I beat honour mode with this as my main char. halfling was an amazing choice, I think over the entire run I had only 2 critical fails on anything. Went straight to the circus in act 3 and pretty much every boss fight after that I killed the boss before they even had a turn. I had some small issues with the steel watcher titan because hitting 40 dmg minimum was difficult even with a bunch of disintegrate scrolls. I never want to use this build again because it kinda takes the fun out of combat but that is kind of the point of course.
I played similar build from „stealth” it was 6 bard 3 rouge-assasin, and 3 ranger bloodsalker. Very fun to play very high dmg. Highly recommand
What about multi-classing with 2 levels of War Priest instead of Fighter? You get 3 uses of extra attack as a bonus action per day. While not quite as powerful as Action Surge, it can be used multiple times in a single fight. This also opens up Command and Sanctuary for spell use, grants heavy armor + shields, and at level 2 you get +10 to attack rolls with Divinity Charges. Then at 10 bard you're free to grab Hunger of Hadar instead of command. On top of all this, you're a 12th level caster. You won't have level 6 spells, but you get to up cast a spell to lvl 6
Im currently running this for my first dark urge + first honor mode run and I'm veeeeeery tempted to sacrifice a level of fighter for fiend warlock, sacrificing action surge for a bunch of little bonuses including a free command so i can get something else on my magical secrets with my final level
At 3:40 what is a dwergar?
Duergar, subrace of dwarf
This build seems amazing. I've never used a bard before in BG3. I've been missing out clearly. Going to run this in my next playthrough for sure. :D
I'm literally at Baldur's Gate and if you pair this (bardic inspiration specifically) with Minthara (or any vengeance pally)... It's unfair to the game.
Advantage, on smites, with crit smites, with multiple attacks, bless from cleric... Unfair to the game.
Spoiler:
I just finished moon rise towers and Minthara one shot Ketherick on the roof. With like 38% chance to hit.
@BastardZombieKiller1 Holy crap. I need that kind of damage in my life. Merkel is the worst part of Honor Mode for me. Hoping this will nuke him too. Thanks for the suggestion. 🙂👍
I made my Astarion a full 12 levels of fighter and just made him use a bow and heavy armor and he kills almost everything in his opening turn because he can take so many damn shots that if you use that bellyglummer poison and some of those arrows of many targets you can really lay the hurt on groups of enemies who can be poisoned. It also helps that between gear, feats, and illithid powers I think I'm landing crits on 16-20 and can specifically choose when to crit 2-3 times and I use the blood thirst elixir or whatever it's called. Anyway my point is I'm going to have to try this because it seems like I may be able to get even more attacks per turn which I would definitely like to try.
This is the build that acually is "broken".
This is my current Tav in my first Honour Mode run (3rd playthrough). I'm using your "Crush Honour Mode" party build from a couple months ago and it is just running over everyone in Act 3. I just killed Orin before she could take an action by using hold person from my Bard. She turned into the Slayer and was still held (Who needs Hold Monster? Not me.) We killed her in one turn with nearly a full health bar and Unstoppable 12. It was one of my favorite single turns in the entire game. Just bananas.
Not sure if you've done these yet but i have suggestions for new videos:
Best Build for a Solo Honour Mode
Best Build for Solo Honour Mode with No Resting (inspired by the streamer Luality's latest solo honour mode run)
Great video
I started an astarian honor mode playthrough after watching this
YES THANK YOU I LOVE YOU
"your incredible damage.... gets even more incredible"🤭
This was my first character and I had no idea how powerful it would be for a while. 12 lvs of bard though.
I kept charisma at 16 and went full dual crossbow early on. I used some kind of construct gloves for a long time to get advantage with sharpshooter. I had 24 dex in the end. Using the mirror of what was it again, I’ve forgotten? And also being a deep gnome there was a pair of gloves that boosted dex +2 only for gnomes. I got lucky on my race choice. Advantage on stealth worked great with greater invisibility, though I probably should have taken proficiency in it and I didn’t. 2 Ranged flourish, arcane acuity, hold person/monster/confuse etc as a bonus action with 100% accuracy or close! You know I went first with 24 dex. No shield as gnome but that’s a 7 AC dex boost on medium armor of agility.
Why not take haste with magical secrets?
I used this build in honor mode as a Drow and man the game felt a little too easy if i could not talk my way through it everything got deleted, used it along side that you're stuck here with me paladin cleric build you have up
I have 350 hours on the ps5 version of this game. Swords bard is so far and away the best class in the game it’s not close. Im killing 2 enemies and getting a 3rd very low in 1 turn. My teammates combine to kill 1 maybe. Was in the crèche at level 7 in honor mode fighting the shopkeeper and her posse, got disarmed from my titanstring bow first turn of combat, turned into the best controller in the game. It’s not fair. I genuinely believe it’s the only class you could have 4 of and not struggle
would you say this build is stronger than the old dual x bow maschninegun bard you posted a few month ago?
Good guide. But I want to know what gear to use at the early levels (Act 1) especially to offset the penalty from sharpshooter?
Respec at level 8 and take fighter first? You get access to heavy armor. Yes you lose stealth but with crowd control ability and upping survival for honor mode. Not sure if that’s viable since it’s a build only in my head
I personally prefer my own version of swords bard multiclass:
1 Wizard
1 War Cleric
10 Swords bard
It's truly have been the perfect control martial, jack of all trades for me.
Im addicted to using the Graceful Cloth for sleight of hand checks. How detrimental to a build is using that over say the Gloves of Dexterity slot? I know it'll result in much lower AC, but I could put something else in the gloves slot potentially.
I’ve been using Graceful
cloth and currently in Act 3. I have a shield on him which boosts his defense. I also have heavy damage party and a healer when necessary in a pinch. He went down once so far in my entire playthrough and that was user error lol.
Is it cheating that my favorite class/build is the strongest 😅. I loved the more in-depth breakdown of gear at the end.
Is there a written version of this guide?
The one drawback I see is the late Alert. Initiative becomes increasingly important as you get into late act 2…especially against Ketherick and Balthazar, who can both fuck you up pretty badly if you let them go first, and the forced surprise encounters can be really brutal. Also, your math on number of attacks ignores the fact that you have limited inspiration dice. At level 6 you have 4; this means 8 attacks max. Totally broken, but much like the Gloomstalker, it drops off dramatically after the first round, as you can burn through all 4 with action surge or haste.
I'm not sure I'm ready to ditch my 2 hand crossbow gunslinger here, tbh.
Hand crossbows don't have Brace. Use this weapon action one time, and you'll never hand crossbow again
@@williamking7800brace is mid compared to hand crossbows
@@williamking7800 I have used it. It's OK I guess; trading a 1 time small burst for overall more agility of target selection isn't a win _for me_, but everyone has different styles.
Weapons and equipment tier list next. It's the last tier list i can imagine lol
Do you make honor mode act guides with all these characters. Also, which builds are on position 2, 3 ,and 4
is this updated version of The BARDIC MACHINE GUN build? i will eat eitherway though
Can you do a video on item debates…for example
Titanstring bow vs deadshot vs legendary bow
Bhallist armor+nyurulna vs armor of persistence+balduran giantslayer
The best heavy/medium and light armors…
For example…if you don’t do any other piercing damage and you only have one frontline character this item could be better. How to distribute contested items in your party builds…what to replace thrower with on the last fight if the bug on last fight still exists (I currently think either an archer martial, so swords bard, ranged fighter, or one of the viable ranger builds. With swords bard only being worse if you already have a bard or don’t want 2)
Is haste a good cast at max level for sorcerors who twin it, if not, at what level do we stop casting it. If we do on whom and why
I think you could call addressing ideas like this “honor mode masterclass/honor mode 201”
I personally find your videos the most entertaining of BG3 creators and would love to see you breakdown the best longbow debate in detail and depending on party composition. Also what about all those damage on crit items that from the bhallists, how good are they if we build a party around hold person/monster…etc
hm in general this build videos share one big issue all the time: they never go into detail on how to start a run with that build. This starting stats is defined by: without the items i will never hit anything.
I go into pretty extensive detail about this - watch the stats section again :)
I'm doing a 1 fighter/1 wizard/10 swords bard so that I can get another user of the level 6 summon elemental and summon deva, if you give him an ability to regain a 6th level slot. That way it is like you have a third magical secret.
Also this would be a good character to hold the shadow lantern to have that additional summon
Can I dual wield with College of Swords? I want to build a Legolas type character.
Hi, can you plz make best item combinations by acts analysis. Im in the middle of a run on honor mode and cant experiment freely and youtube is full of outdated/not working cobinations.
Hey thanks for the Video, what race would u Pick for a dark urge bard in tactician mode ?😂
Swords Bard is like if Tavern Brawler was a class. Just unreal in how strong it is. It also makes me sad that they put Swords and Valour as two of the subclasses in BG3, as even though Valour is a perfectly playable subclass on its own (and actually REALLY strong!), it's so overshadowed by Swords Bard being the same thing but better that it's hard to justify playing Valour. I wish they went with something that was a departure from both Swords and Lore, like Creation or Whispers.
I feeli like 6 bard, 2 fighter, and 4 rogue also works. I could forgo the high level spells for the extra bonus action, extra proficiencies, and feat.
Can you do a full party build video with a necromancy theme? I did a darkness based party for my good leaning playthrough (for whatever reason lol) and now I'm trying to figure out what kind of party I should do for an evil run and I feel like necromancy would be cool