It's pretty crazy that there seems to be the understanding that among these super genius artists, including H.R. Giger and even Dali, that Moebius was a cut above.
If you've seen the whole film, then you have seen the book Jodorowsky has of the storyboard and artwork. I bet Taschen would love to print that. It would be a gigantic best seller. We're all waiting.
I didn't know that this would lead to Alien. I'm super excited to see the documentary Jodorowsky's Dune, looks fascinating to get more in-depth look into the nuances of how this all happened.
not only alien but blade runner, star wars, star trek and many others, the comic book Incal from jodorowsky and moebius is going to be put into the big screen by taika waititi and that has many of their ideas from dune.
There's something spiritual or philosophical about they said at the end of this clip. The death of what possibly could've been an extraordinary project, gave birth to another.
I don't think Jodorowsky failed at all, it were the US distribution companies that failed him. He had a wonderful film to show were the world, people have no imagination or faith in creative and extraordinary work. so sad that film didn't see light pass through it, literary
This poor wonderful film. I can't think of a project that had such an astonishing number of trend setters working on it. I think if Jodorowsky had been willing to either A) Sell his project to the money men better or B) find money in unconventional ways. We as the world would be talking about this film as the most astonishing thing that ever existed. It's hard to rewrite history. To completely ignore things and say, "This happening would overwrite this happening!" So, if Star Wars came out after this. It would have seemed derivative. I almost feel if Jodorowsky hadn't attempted this, there wouldn't be a Star Wars. All it ever takes is one. Look at competitive "freestyle" sports for example. One guy does a trick that everyone said couldn't be done. The next competition has a hundred people performing it. Yet only one person gets to claim it. It's sad that Alejandro didn't get to claim his trick.
Corey Carnes the money people found it easier instead of giving a Chilean director a chance and have the lunatics run the asylum just to keep the storyboard and mine it for ideas forever.
Nicolas Winding Refn read Jodorowskys screenplay and he wants to do this movie but without Hollywood. I hope he can make it. But I think its a really hard to pull off. Jodorowsky wanted it to be 12 hours long. But if anyoje can make it, its Refn.
Refn is doing a film adaptation of The Incal. Which, as everybody knows, was spawned from Jodo's Dune. That'd be great if he was doing Jodo's Dune, but I don't think it's ever going to happen.
His pen moved as if an angel on the wrong path guided it. The stony walls of the mind tumbled down......the incandescent light of the imagination illuminated it's tapered path. Into the unknown.....
Everybody wants a Marvel movie today, it's such a loss with the serialised production line Sci Fi movies of today, yeah they are enjoyable and sort of fun to watch, however, the movies of today do not challenge the visceral quality found in older works. These movies, books and comics are superficial in their ability to tickle the imagination. Disney won't do anything like Dune because it is visceral and weird, Dune challenges the intellectual capacity of its audience. When Scott did Alien, he made a movie that could go through many open doors, backward and forward. Prometheus and Alien: Covenant are stories that do this as well. So much of the Marvel universe is unidirectional and unimaginative in that regard, the American audience almost demands simplistic stories that aren't deep rather they are cheeky. As a SciFi fan, I like the older and more open story settings where the imagination can take over and you can lose yourself in the screenplay or story. When someone like Ridley Scott puts something like Prometheus or Alien: Covenant out there these days people reject it because people aren't thinking of the big questions, this unfortunate really because we could be in another golden age of Science Fiction. But, we have to deal with the detritus of the popularity of cut and paste super hero universes and serialised dramas that have a beginning and set conclusion.
One might ask whether a large percentage of what is labelled SF (in film) nowadays is actually that. Simplistic comic book heroes have never been my idea of SF and certainly not the reason I began to read SF novels or watch SF movies. ''Conceptual Breakthrough'' is not a term much heard but it used to be. That is SF. Escapism is just the digging of a deeper hole and that's what I see these days. Dune, from what I've seen on the ''Making of'' Dvd and excerpts on TH-cam, was to be a perfect example of conceptual breakthrough. We got the watered down space opera of Star Wars. No plot required, the toys will sell.
I was enjoying a night of Hunter S. Thompson level of mind melters. I looked into the center of the tree of life and there inside my 7th chakra was an eternal dragon and it whispered. You are the Kwisatz Haderach! Talk about surprised! So, I looked into all dimensions and realized that the unification of everything through the atomic connections we all share and the energy states that move in unison are apart of all and everything and at that most perfect moment. I realized I was drinking bleach! Shew... I thought I had to be a savior for a moment. Talk about relieved!
same, by far, alien is just a run of the mill vapid action/horror thing where's Jodorowksy's Dune would've been one of the most unique movies of all time, and arguably the best film ever made.
@@dss7239 Not at all, it's a thriller. One with good effects and atmosphere but at it's heart it's a very very simple story without much substance beyond just the raw physicality of what you get. Jodorowsky's Dune would've been on a completely other level.
@@neo-filthyfrank1347 Often in Cinema, simplicity is the best with a excellent execution. But Alien does also convey how utterly terrifying and isolating space is especially when a visceral creature that is killing everybody and there is nobody else to help them and the overwhelming impact and ownership that even corporations can have on space. It is brilliant in it's simplicity but you would be severely misleading to say that there is no substance. Jodorowsky on the other hand had no idea how long his film was gonna be, had no idea how brutally overbudget it could be especially when his project made Star Wars look like a dot, and wanted a crazy guy to play the Emperor who was demanding 1 million a hour! I hate to say this but Dune was never gonna be made. It was a completely impractical project in everyway imaginable. Yes he had brilliant artists that went on to do fantastic work, but if you don't know how to give the project a base for it to be practical, then you're never gonna anything like that made. It's like having the icing but no cake.
@@CuriousEnthusiast956 There is no "brilliance in simplicity". That is just a mantra repeated by simple minded people as a way to validate themselves despite having the inability to understand or appreciate anything more complex or rewarding.
So he was planning to make this sci-fi film the same year George Lucas was planning to make Star Wars. Interesting. I wonder why the big theatre companies didn't want to show it enough, since the novel was so good and the team making the movie where artistic geniuses, yet GL got the go ahead to make Star Wars - a story that was not yet tested with popular culture.
@DuneInfo: Soo, what's the point of uploading a clip of a series of interviews that gets cut off before the interviews/the full video is over?! This is pointless & stupid.
DRUILLET A REFUSÉ DE TRAVAILLER SUR DUNE. IL N'AIMAIT PAS L'HISTOIRE OÙ "IL NE SE PASSE PAS GRAND CHOSE" ET LORSQU'IL A RENCONTRÉ JODOROWSKY, CELUI CI A VOULU LUI TIRER LES CARTES !!!
Pure David Lynch didn't do it justice because the moneymen git involved again. Wtf I do not get Dune is the best American Sci fi work and an American distribution company rejected it. I hope Villeneuve will at least make a decent one this year
It's pretty crazy that there seems to be the understanding that among these super genius artists, including H.R. Giger and even Dali, that Moebius was a cut above.
So I just DID ALIEN
*mic drop*
crazy
And "Heavy Metal". Another classic. He did so many more films.
But I can see how losing Dune would really have an effect.
hahaha yeah that was coool
If you've seen the whole film, then you have seen the book Jodorowsky has of the storyboard and artwork. I bet Taschen would love to print that. It would be a gigantic best seller. We're all waiting.
It needs to be published.
Taschen would be the perfect company to make it. I'll take two copies please.
I would buy it immediately if it was ever published
I love the Dan O'Bannon quote at the end. Artistically he seems to cope very, very well with frustration. :)
You can't group much more talent than this...
this guy should do an animated version to see what it would look like on the big screen
Man, if Giger wasn't a visual artist. He'd be a serial killer.
How do you know he's not?
Talents can be directed in many ways but yes.
That's a dumbass way of thinking, but i guess some people can only think in that capacity
nah he's a chill dude
I didn't know that this would lead to Alien.
I'm super excited to see the documentary Jodorowsky's Dune, looks fascinating to get more in-depth look into the nuances of how this all happened.
not only alien but blade runner, star wars, star trek and many others, the comic book Incal from jodorowsky and moebius is going to be put into the big screen by taika waititi and that has many of their ideas from dune.
I think I want to hire H.R. Giger as my gardener.
Don't we all?
I think plants die when he touches them
@@xavierpaquinclearly not really
@@xavierpaquinclearly lots of grass around him
4:25 the key to everything. distribution and publishers are true desert power.
Do it now please!!! we really want to see that master piece
منتهي الجمال
There's something spiritual or philosophical about they said at the end of this clip. The death of what possibly could've been an extraordinary project, gave birth to another.
"So I did Alien"
"Il m'a dit qu'il doutait. Bon, je lui ai dit si tu ne viens pas, je prends Druillet." :p
Guy should have made a contract to make his crew exclusive and created a production company out of it
I want a computer tablet like that!
I don't think Jodorowsky failed at all, it were the US distribution companies that failed him. He had a wonderful film to show were the world, people have no imagination or faith in creative and extraordinary work. so sad that film didn't see light pass through it, literary
Paddy Magenis they didn’t want to give artists control and it was easier to keep the storyboard and milk it dry. PS Darth Vader finally got his castle
This poor wonderful film. I can't think of a project that had such an astonishing number of trend setters working on it. I think if Jodorowsky had been willing to either A) Sell his project to the money men better or B) find money in unconventional ways. We as the world would be talking about this film as the most astonishing thing that ever existed. It's hard to rewrite history. To completely ignore things and say, "This happening would overwrite this happening!" So, if Star Wars came out after this. It would have seemed derivative. I almost feel if Jodorowsky hadn't attempted this, there wouldn't be a Star Wars. All it ever takes is one. Look at competitive "freestyle" sports for example. One guy does a trick that everyone said couldn't be done. The next competition has a hundred people performing it. Yet only one person gets to claim it. It's sad that Alejandro didn't get to claim his trick.
Corey Carnes the money people found it easier instead of giving a Chilean director a chance and have the lunatics run the asylum just to keep the storyboard and mine it for ideas forever.
Corey Carnes Star Wars was derivative, that why it wasn’t ok’ed. It was mined for ideas to come
Nicolas Winding Refn read Jodorowskys screenplay and he wants to do this movie but without Hollywood. I hope he can make it. But I think its a really hard to pull off. Jodorowsky wanted it to be 12 hours long. But if anyoje can make it, its Refn.
Refn is doing a film adaptation of The Incal. Which, as everybody knows, was spawned from Jodo's Dune. That'd be great if he was doing Jodo's Dune, but I don't think it's ever going to happen.
He didn't read the screenplay. He read the storyboard, narrated personally by Jodorowsky.
Fuck it, just get Jodorowsky and film the metabaron story. And Terry Gilliam? Jodorowsky is your Quijote
im from the future and refn didnt make it, denis villaneuve made it ,coming on 2021
His pen moved as if an angel on the wrong path guided it. The stony walls of the mind tumbled down......the incandescent light of the imagination illuminated it's tapered path. Into the unknown.....
Everybody wants a Marvel movie today, it's such a loss with the serialised production line Sci Fi movies of today, yeah they are enjoyable and sort of fun to watch, however, the movies of today do not challenge the visceral quality found in older works. These movies, books and comics are superficial in their ability to tickle the imagination. Disney won't do anything like Dune because it is visceral and weird, Dune challenges the intellectual capacity of its audience. When Scott did Alien, he made a movie that could go through many open doors, backward and forward. Prometheus and Alien: Covenant are stories that do this as well. So much of the Marvel universe is unidirectional and unimaginative in that regard, the American audience almost demands simplistic stories that aren't deep rather they are cheeky. As a SciFi fan, I like the older and more open story settings where the imagination can take over and you can lose yourself in the screenplay or story. When someone like Ridley Scott puts something like Prometheus or Alien: Covenant out there these days people reject it because people aren't thinking of the big questions, this unfortunate really because we could be in another golden age of Science Fiction. But, we have to deal with the detritus of the popularity of cut and paste super hero universes and serialised dramas that have a beginning and set conclusion.
One might ask whether a large percentage of what is labelled SF (in film) nowadays is actually that. Simplistic comic book heroes have never been my idea of SF and certainly not the reason I began to read SF novels or watch SF movies. ''Conceptual Breakthrough'' is not a term much heard but it used to be. That is SF. Escapism is just the digging of a deeper hole and that's what I see these days. Dune, from what I've seen on the ''Making of'' Dvd and excerpts on TH-cam, was to be a perfect example of conceptual breakthrough. We got the watered down space opera of Star Wars. No plot required, the toys will sell.
Dc or marvel movies are just superheroes not considered sci-fi.
Does the Moebius Redux DVD have English subtitles? I know there isn't a UK edition so I was just wondering.
Yes, it has English subtitles.
2:50 what is the figure?
Looks like Spider-man. I’m not kidding.. I even had a large Spidey poster drawn by Moebius, from ‘90-‘97 in my bedroom..
And no godawful Chalamet. THIS is the Dune I want to see.
I was enjoying a night of Hunter S. Thompson level of mind melters. I looked into the center of the tree of life and there inside my 7th chakra was an eternal dragon and it whispered. You are the Kwisatz Haderach! Talk about surprised! So, I looked into all dimensions and realized that the unification of everything through the atomic connections we all share and the energy states that move in unison are apart of all and everything and at that most perfect moment. I realized I was drinking bleach! Shew... I thought I had to be a savior for a moment. Talk about relieved!
I love alien but would've rather seen o'bannon's dune.
same, by far, alien is just a run of the mill vapid action/horror thing where's Jodorowksy's Dune would've been one of the most unique movies of all time, and arguably the best film ever made.
@@neo-filthyfrank1347 well alien is one of the most unique movies of all time, and arguably one of the best film ever made
@@dss7239 Not at all, it's a thriller. One with good effects and atmosphere but at it's heart it's a very very simple story without much substance beyond just the raw physicality of what you get. Jodorowsky's Dune would've been on a completely other level.
@@neo-filthyfrank1347 Often in Cinema, simplicity is the best with a excellent execution. But Alien does also convey how utterly terrifying and isolating space is especially when a visceral creature that is killing everybody and there is nobody else to help them and the overwhelming impact and ownership that even corporations can have on space. It is brilliant in it's simplicity but you would be severely misleading to say that there is no substance.
Jodorowsky on the other hand had no idea how long his film was gonna be, had no idea how brutally overbudget it could be especially when his project made Star Wars look like a dot, and wanted a crazy guy to play the Emperor who was demanding 1 million a hour! I hate to say this but Dune was never gonna be made. It was a completely impractical project in everyway imaginable. Yes he had brilliant artists that went on to do fantastic work, but if you don't know how to give the project a base for it to be practical, then you're never gonna anything like that made. It's like having the icing but no cake.
@@CuriousEnthusiast956 There is no "brilliance in simplicity". That is just a mantra repeated by simple minded people as a way to validate themselves despite having the inability to understand or appreciate anything more complex or rewarding.
Come on Japanese Anime, Film industry you could make this PLEASE
JODOROWSKI O'BANNON MOEBIUS AND GIGER
So we had ALIEN with O'BANNON and GIGER
So he was planning to make this sci-fi film the same year George Lucas was planning to make Star Wars. Interesting. I wonder why the big theatre companies didn't want to show it enough, since the novel was so good and the team making the movie where artistic geniuses, yet GL got the go ahead to make Star Wars - a story that was not yet tested with popular culture.
MartyMonster because they stole so many ideas of jodorowsky's dune and put in star wars.
jodorowsky's dune would have been 12 hours long
They could just go to Soviet Union to make the movie. They didn't give a shit about movie budgets there.
musley they had all the money from France. They just needed a 1000 theaters in the US to agree to show the film so they would make money back.
Watch a very interesting interview of the director Frank Pavich about this incredible film adventure : th-cam.com/video/Pwg-FroIBuc/w-d-xo.html
@DuneInfo: Soo, what's the point of uploading a clip of a series of interviews that gets cut off before the interviews/the full video is over?!
This is pointless & stupid.
Netflix, caste d’ metabarons, you’re welcome
The incal needs an adaptation
Is really sad that this movie was made
DRUILLET A REFUSÉ DE TRAVAILLER SUR DUNE. IL N'AIMAIT PAS L'HISTOIRE OÙ "IL NE SE PASSE PAS GRAND CHOSE" ET LORSQU'IL A RENCONTRÉ JODOROWSKY, CELUI CI A VOULU LUI TIRER LES CARTES !!!
Pure David Lynch didn't do it justice because the moneymen git involved again. Wtf I do not get Dune is the best American Sci fi work and an American distribution company rejected it. I hope Villeneuve will at least make a decent one this year