How to choose the right trials bike︱Cross Training Trials
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- crosstraininge... wdtc.org.au How to choose the right trials bike? Which trials should I buy? Trials bikes for beginners. Trials bikes for kids. Two stroke or four stroke trials bikes? There’s a twin-shock class for trials bikes built before about 1985. Which is the best trials bike for beginners? Brands like Oset have electric trials bikes for kids which have a decent battery life with the added advantage of being able to ride in the back yard without annoying the neighbours. The mono shock trials bikes are around 1985 and on - these have become lighter and more capable every year. Four stroke trials bikes v two stroke trials bikes! There is a wide range to choose from, it’s hard to make a mistake! Trials is mostly about rider skill and not the bike you are on so don’t stress too much about making the right choice. Classic trials bike classes exist for vintage bikes built before 1965. Some riders prefer four-strokes - the pros and cons are similar when looking at dirt bikes. In a nutshell, the advantages are a tamer engine response, usually quieter if practicing in the back yard, more engine braking, fewer engine rebuilds, no messing around with oil, and better fuel economy. If you also plan on some trail riding then four strokes are generally smoother and quieter on open trials at a consistent speed. Adults are also finding backyard practice possible now that adult-sized bikes are emerging. Electric trials bikes now have mproved battery life, weight and the addition of clutches have the electric bikes fast approaching the abilities of their petrol-driven cousins. See the trials forums for more information on various brands such as Electric Motion, Gas Gas, Oset, Beta and Mecatecno. The drawbacks are they are more expensive, slightly heavier and engine overhauls will be more expensive and time-consuming (although it takes ages to wear any trials engine out!). Some of the world’s top riders choose to ride four-strokes so it does come down to personal preference. Electric trials bikes are an interesting new development. Trials website: wdtc.org.au
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Learn to ride moto trials! Trials riding must be the best kept secret in the world of motorbikes. For some reason trials riding (or observed trials) is only big in Europe and the UK... elsewhere there are just a handful of trials clubs in each country such as Western Districts Trials club which makes these trials training vids. This introduction to trials techniques explains why trials riders are so glad they are in on the secret - we reckon you should be too! Visit your local moto-trials club and chat with some trials training fanatics today...
I've been into trials bikes since 1973. At 59 years old I just bought a Gas Gas TXT 300. I don't actually compete in trials as there are no clubs within 150 miles of me. I just love to play ride. Logs, small rocks, steps. I just wish trials would become more popular in America. I'd love to see more dealerships stock trials bikes
Trials riding has been the best fun I've had, going slow!
Great content, Barry - Cheers 🍻
I bought a trials bike because of your enduro cross training videos brought me over here. I'm a total knob head though and got myself a 328cc 2 stroke as my first ever trials. Oh well, guess I'll get good or die trying.
How's it working out so far, Joni? If you've got plenty of dirt riding experience I figure you'll probably get the hang of all that power quickly?
Similar story. Cross training enduro brought me here. Now I can't get enough. Glad to see you posting on this channel again.
Unfortunately I don't have a trials bike and this just reused old footage, Joni. So there won't be new vids, at least for a while. 😢
if you intend to use a trials bike to rip up and down trails often they can over-heat quickly which can cause the engine to seize. The radiators are small compared to an enduro bike so be wary of this. So use the trials bike like it is intended. If you like ripping up and down trails or tearing up the side of mountains you should chose an enduro bike
slow trail riding is ok?
Yes absolutely. Slow trail riding is fine
Or install an oil cooler along with a fan for 4 stroke bikes
With 2 strokes you probably want to set the carb a bit rich and mix a bit of oil into the fuel if it has a seperate oil tank.
My beta 250 trials bike ran away and seized when driving on road back from forest (WOT for a 20-30s). I cleaned the carbon off of the head, checked for no air leaks, increased squish a bit, increased main jet from 125 to 130 and started running 1.8% oil instead of manufacturer recommended 1.5%. I have also avoided extended WOT after that.
I mean decreased squish. From 1.5mm to 1.2mm.
Yesterday, my first Trials bike has arrived - I’ve decided to go for a 2017 Beta evo factory 125cc😁
Thank you Barry for your precious hints!!!
It’s so much fun, very addictive and crazy difficult 😂🤙
I usually had 300cc bikes, but loved messing around on the 125s as it forced me to really use that clutch and higher revs.
Great video! Only thing I've also read is that if you are buying used to buy the newest, cleanest bike you can afford. Here in the US trials bikes are quite expensive on the used market and hold their value well after the first year or two depreciation. Except for crash damage they are pretty bullet proof but like all dirt bikes they suffer from the environment they are ridden in and from abuse (lack of preventive maintenance).
Yes, that sounds about right.
Pretty much "spot on" Barry, thank you. As for your comment about how long a Trials motor lasts, I started competing in 1968 and have yet to rebuild a Trials motor. Currently riding Trials bike #20.
It would be interesting to see how often they do need a rebuild, Clyde. In know with two stroke enduro models it's common to do a top end at around 200 hours, but they are working a fair bit harder than a trials bike...
I found a very well maintained 75' Yamaha TY175 for $1500. The tank has some dents, and the fenders are scratched. However it starts on the first or second kick. I've been having a lot of fun on it. I've also found is that there is a small but apparently thriving cottage industry both in the US and UK keeping these bikes going, So parts are relatively easy to find. Not bad for a 45 year old bike.
That sounds very cheap Mike, they seem to just keep increasing in value here in Australia
Geez Barry, you know how hard it is to actually buy a 2nd hand Trials bike? I ended up with a 2006 TXT280 - great bike and comes with a power controller - me! 😆 Gonna try my first competition this Sunday actually. 👍
It's not easy, Glenn! I suspect it's why many just choose to buy a new one instead. Good luck with the comp, let me know how you go. 😎
@@crosstrainingtrials 13 points out of 40 sections - but Trial 5 (clubman) is quite easy and I enjoyed it immensely! I really need to up my game and spend more time on the bike. The event? Its definitely a tea and biscuits sort of atmosphere, very friendly. 👍 Highly recommend it for anyone who wants to have some fun.
13 points... a good start! 👍
I love my '18 Montesa 260. I'd highly recommend it if you're thinking about getting into this sports.
Just don't get a 4 stroke 125 if you're an adult - it will be so difficult to learn some essential skills like riding over a knee high rock with at least 5 different ways.
I’ve been on the fence for a trials bike for a year now. This video may just push me over the edge.
If it's any help, buying a two to four year old bike in great condition can cost you almost nothing as they lose their resale value very slowly.... ride for a year, then if you don't really like it you can get most of your money back. 😊
I'm planning a TH-cam review of the top trials training channels and was going to include yours. Screen recording for a short duration and giving all credit to your channel to plug your work. I appreciate what you've giving back to the sport and learned so much from consuming your videos. Let me know if you're alright being included in this please. Cheers mate
Feel free to make a reference to this channel if it helps but please don't use any of our video footage, we have automated copyright detection enabled.
@@crosstrainingadventure got it. I'm the same guy, just tried to message you 2 different ways. Thanks
Fantic air cooled twin shocks
Yamaha ty 250 mono air cooled mono shocks
Montesa Cota 315 water cooled mono shocks
All 3 above are iconic class leading 2T motorcycles.
Modern?
Anything Beta.
🎉 semplice e verissimo grazie
Damn i miss my 250 Gasser,,,wonder if it's too late to start again at 47...
NO!!!!!
I've got a 250 Gasser , 69 y.o. this month .
Can’t wait to get one never ridden one but I want one lol
They feel very weird at first, but a brilliant way to fine tune your skills!
Great tutorial
Thank you!
So to confirm, apart from the Trials Clubs or private property, there aren't many places you can ride? Say if i have an early finish at work and a short arvo to kill, it wouldn't be like chucking my registered enduro bike in the back of the ute and driving 40 min to the Glasshouse mtns for a few hours riding?
Yep. Although in other states like Vic and Tas you can fit a headlight and get recreational registration. There is a version of this in Qld but it doesn't apply to state forests, it's only for farmers wanting access to back roads for ag bikes or quads etc.
yoooo anyone else still around checking the channel every few months for more videos haha
Can you use a regular dirtbike/motorcross as a trials bike?
I guess I'm getting a 250 Sherco although I'd like a 125 because I want to learn fast, not compete. Seems hard to find anything
If I could buy a full sized eletric one for $3000, I would
good video
Glad you enjoyed it 😊
Have had a little "Bee-Ta' electric trials bike on order for the grand kids for a six weeks ,hope to get it by the time for the good weather . Not be cheap ,so I hope it's a quality build. Also not a whole lot of info on performance and rideability .Anybody got any firsthand experience on the junior toys ? thanks.
OSET makes a quality bike, all the individual parts are available and upgrades are out there too. Not having to maintain another gas motor is worth more than I expected.
@@revmatch8240 I know someone with a 20in oset and enjoys it .But the Canukistani importer was out of stock and unable to give any info on available 2021 or 2022 models.
@@jamesdenton3692 My kid has a 16 and I have a 24 and enjoy it a lot, but for me it’s missing a few regular dirtbike controls and I’m still a bit heavy for it.
My son went thru 2 OSET bikes. The electrics are great for riding in the backyard and around the neighborhood w/ out angering people.
Id consider a full size electric for myself. The quiet factor alone is great!
Would it be possible for me to learn trials on my own?
what's your take on trials bikes for fattys? I'm 125 kg....are heavier people better suited to bigger engine? I'm always keeping an eye out for a cheap one if it comes up, so will probably just grab anything at the right price. But might be best to avoid the 125? I've been riding a long time, done plenty of trails, but never trials. thanks :)
Hard to say, but maybe the 200 would be fine if you are brand new to riding? If you've already been dirt riding for a while chances are you'll be fine on the bigger engines....
@@crosstrainingtrials thanks :)
They do look fun! What!s up with the helmets tho'? Why not use an enduro-type helmet?
no need for anything more than an open face. trials is so slow that a crash is pretty undramatic. ive been riding trials for years and have never come close to hitting my head on anything
I was guessing that but I wasn't sure. Thanks!
@@sorin.n I use an enduro helmet cause its way cheaper and you can't see my tongue sticking out when I'm concentrated
@@user-nsixfour 😅😜
How many ccm would you recimend for 14 yr kid
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Can't wait for electric trial to become more available.
@@mgpBLARG 🤣 yes
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Is the kiddies bike
I said a wrong thing but is there a children trials Back😂😂😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Trials bikes are the best fun you can have with your clothes on!!!
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