I certainly drank my coffee that morning! #badcamerawork I think my camera has a stabilizer feature but obviously I haven't figured out how to turn it on yet.
You HAVE to come over to my studio and help me wire it up to perfection!!! Still, 2/3rds of the way through the video and I have no idea why you need this FM3🤔🤔🤔😆🎼🎶🎵😉🥸 Also, I am a musician/physician (ret👨🏼⚕️), and OCD and/or hypomania are treatable conditions ... 😉😆😆😆
Can you please share settings for the two button external switch? I have the Ampero 2 button switch (TRS cable) and don't know hot set second (HOLD) function. I think I didn't set right the "Stand-In Switches" in the FCControllers tab menu at in/out settings.
Yes! I copied them over myself from my Magicstomp to the FM3. I uploaded them to the Fractal "Axechange" website under the preset name "Allan's Magic."
Can someone help me out here. I still don't understand how the FM3 works. Do you plug that into a cab? Does it get plugged directly into a PA? What does the end of this chain look like and what are the various options?
Both portability and flexibility. It's nice to have a small, easy to carry rig but because I'm not tied to one specific cab, I can plug into any PA (or use in-ears) and it'll sound more or less the same, depending on how good the PA is.
Hello Jeremey!!! The MIDI block on your presets on the FM3 is also needed for the communication between the FM3 and the MC6?? Or is it enough just with both MIDI cables, in/out between both units??
I have them set up as remote switches. They're triggering two of the normal switches in one of layouts on the FM3. I just picked two switches that I wasn't using in one of the layouts (I picked the last two in layout 1) and assigned them to Pedal 2 (EXP/SW TIP) and Pedal 2 (SW RING). The open jack for my other 2-button switch I did the same with two more unused layout switches at the two Pedal 1 assignments. So because they're just literally external remote controls for on board switches, you can program with all the same functionality that the 3 on board ones have, other than you don't have any display text or lights.
@@Poparad thx "stand in switch" was the keyword that I was missing. Now it's working fine for me. I just had to configure setup - I/O - pedal - switch 1 ring/tip behavor from "virtual toggle" to "follow hardware"
I'm trying to do something similar with an HX Stomp, and an Eventide H9. I am getting a Morningstar MC 6 and do you think a Morningstar ML5 loop switcher into the Morningstar can replace the Disaster 3-Loop switcher? thanks, I'm a newbie to Midi.
Yeah, that should all work great. All of the Morningstar stuff is great. Since I recorded this video, I reworked the board a little bit. I now have a Cioks isolated power supply underneath to eliminate some hum I was getting by daisy chaining everything on a 1spot. To make room for it, I replaced the two MIDI Solutions boxes with a Morningstar MIDI splitter. It's smaller and has 8 outputs instead of one. I think the Morningstar loop switcher only has MIDI in, so you'll need a MIDI splitter to reach everything. The Morningstar splitter only has 3.5mm out, so you'll need to get a 3.5 to 5-pin midi adapter cable.
Yes, on the left and right sides of the FM3. I took off the rubber end pieces so I should get a flat surface on the bottom of the FM3 for the Dual Loc.
This is great man! I’m in the process of planning a board now around a FM3 and novo 18. I’ll be using a RJM PBC/6X with a couple external pedals being a H90 and a drive or two. I’m going to checkout the insert boxes from Disaster Area but how do they connect to the novo? Like how do they stay on the board? Your video has me excited to get started this weekend.
Hello! I am referring to your pedal board! Do you carry this pedal in the original pedaltrain hard case? And when you put it in the case, does it close without being too tight?
I've never used their hard cases, only the soft ones. When I bought this board, Pedaltrain was only making bags with no pockets (a terrible idea) so I bought a Gator mixing board bag that was a perfect fit. Pedaltrain has since returned to adding pockets to their bags.
Quick question! So through your thru box, it gets into the DPC Micro into the Specular Tempus. Could you do the same for the other thru channel? Like going thru into the FM3 and then out to maybe another midi capable pedal?
Yes, it's just a MIDI splitter so whatever goes in gets duplicated and sent out through two outputs. I currently have it going out to only the FM3, but I could put another pedal or two after that if I wanted to. The only thing to consider with routing is that the FM3 and the MC6 both send commands but you can't have MIDI Thru enabled on both or you'll get a feedback loop. So one of them has to be the end-of-the-line as far as forwarding messages goes. I have the FM3 setup with MIDI Thru off. However, the MIDI out of the FM3 still sends messages, so I can control the MC6 with it, but it doesn't forward messages from MIDI in through to the MIDI out.
Originally, Midi Solutions to the DPC Micro loop selector, thru to the Specular Tempus. The Midi Solutions is a two-way splitter, so the second out is going back to the Fractal midi in. Since I made this video, I replaced the MIDI Solutions boxes with a Morningstar Midi Box. Now it's Fractal out -> MC6 -> MIDI Box -> DPC -> Fractal in, with one of the outputs on the MIDI Box going to the Specular Tempus. It takes up way less space under the board, plus I have 7 more MIDI outs of I ever want to control any other outboard gear (so far never needed to, but it's an option).
3M Dual Lock. I removed the end caps so it will sit flush to the board and made sure to position the bottom fan vent over one of the rail gaps in the board.
They're both plugged into the MC6 and the MC6 is sending that via MIDI to the FM3. I picked a CC number in the FM3 and assigned it to External 1 solo when I want to use that pedal in a patch, I attach External 1 as a modifief to the effect.
Very nicely done, have you got a picture of this posted anywhere so I can steal it for inspiration? Getting my FM3 soon and building a board around it!
Since the overdrive pedal is before the FM3, having the noise gate after isn't very effective. I originally didn't have the noise gate pedal on the board but I wasn't able to dial out the noise effectively, so I had to spring for one to place before the overdrive pedal.
I just ordered a fm3 and a fc6 and im curious, did you mount it on the pedaltrain with velcro or do they by any chance have any type of slots to run a zip tie?
I used 3M Dual Loc instead of Velcro. It's thicker so there's a better airway open for the vent under the FM3. I also made sure to position the FM3 so the vent is over one of the rail gaps in the Pedaltrain. I also had to take the sides off the FM3 to make it work. It's really secure on there. Like, I don't know if I'll ever be able to get it off again secure.
@@Poparad oh awesome. Thanks for the info 🙂. Now when you say you dont think you’ll be able to take it off securely, do you mean its kinda on there permanently and taking it off might somehow damage your fm3?
It's a Pedaltrain Novo 18. I used 3M Dual Lock velcro on the FM3 along with the regular velcro on the Pedaltrain board. I took the feet off of the FM3 but both because of the extra thickness of the Dual Lock and by positioning the FM3 vent over one of the gaps in the Pedaltrain rails, I've made sure to keep the airflow unobstructed. I've used the FM3 for many hours since mounting it and the temperature has been very stable and within normal operating ranges. The Dual Lock is strong as hell, to the point where I don't know if I could actually get it back off the board again if I wanted.
I'm using a 1Spot for all of the pedals except the FM3. I have both the FM3 power cable and the 1Spot plugged into a Y-cable and that's connected to the Powercon jack on the side panel.
Hi there. Great video. Which bright onion foot switch model are you using? They have way too many options on their website. I just ordered my FM3 yesterday and it’s shipped today.
I have the basic dual momentary switch. I ordered with "normally open," but it actually doesn't matter because you can configure the polarity in the FM3 for either normally open or normally closed in the setup menu. I think mine is the "soft touch" one, but the only difference is whether you hear a click or not. It doesn't affect the functionality.
Hi Jeremy, very nice pedal board, and very well thought out. Quick question: I'm a new FM3 user, and I have an XLR (L) out cable into an XLR input to my ZEDi 10FX mixer without a DI box. Is that ok, or should I use a DI box, or use an instrument cable FM3 out (L) to line input on the mixer? Thanks in advance! 😀
XLR straight to the mixer is fine, but it will be at line level and not mic level, so that just means you will be keeping the gain on the mixer channel lower than you would if it were a mic. When I do shows, I always tell the soundperson that the XLR out is line level so they don't accidently blast the channel. A DI box is only necessary if you're converting from one type to another (like 1/4" to XLR) or if you want to split the signal, which is what I'm doing. I have the DI box splitting to XLR out for venue sound and 1/4" out for my monitors. If you don't plan on using Out 2 as an effects loop, you can set it up to copy the signal from Out 1, then you can use the 1/4" outs the same as you would the XLR outs. You could use the 1/4" outs for your own sound and XLR for the venue's sound board and still be able to go stereo on both if you'd like.
Yeah. Had the FM9 existed two years ago, I might've gone quite a different path. That said, I'm still loving this setup. I'm often using a lot of pedals with it, but not always, so the modular nature is great. It's also still a pretty small footprint on stage. The FM9 plus expression pedals would've been a lot wider and probably wouldn't fit many of my close quarters gig situations.
this camera shake is on another level
I certainly drank my coffee that morning! #badcamerawork I think my camera has a stabilizer feature but obviously I haven't figured out how to turn it on yet.
@@Poparad no worries man :)
You HAVE to come over to my studio and help me wire it up to perfection!!! Still, 2/3rds of the way through the video and I have no idea why you need this FM3🤔🤔🤔😆🎼🎶🎵😉🥸
Also, I am a musician/physician (ret👨🏼⚕️), and OCD and/or hypomania are treatable conditions ... 😉😆😆😆
Man that line selector pedal was the BEST find for me in this video!!! I also have a LP and strat and the volume swings drive me nuts. Great solution!
Before this board, I had an extra LS-2 living in my double gig bag for when I did Les Paul/Strat gigs.
Yes, agreed. I'll be adding one of those myself. Thanks for that.
I like this idea as well. I shyed away from playing my back up guitar to my strat because of the volume difference. Thanks for the tip
This is a thing of beauty. Next, clips!
This board is so awesome and well thought out. I am working on something similar right now, but I have simpler needs. Nice work.
I have the same set up.. I have to turn the FM3 around so I can get it into the pedaltrain bag.. It doesn't fit normally..
That looks killer, I'm so jelous haha. Also I feel this would make one hell of a Rig Doctor episode.
Awesome, have a FM3 on the way and I think my MC6 can do a lot of controlling of my scenes like a FC6 to avoid some tap dancing on the fm3 alone
Can you please share settings for the two button external switch? I have the Ampero 2 button switch (TRS cable) and don't know hot set second (HOLD) function. I think I didn't set right the "Stand-In Switches" in the FCControllers tab menu at in/out settings.
hi,can you send midi clock from ableton and use midi foot switch simoultaniously?
Very inspiring rig! Thanks for sharing Jeremy.
Can the fm3 successfully replace the magic stomp for Allan’s presets?
Yes! I copied them over myself from my Magicstomp to the FM3. I uploaded them to the Fractal "Axechange" website under the preset name "Allan's Magic."
This is awesome! almost done building my own board!
Can someone help me out here. I still don't understand how the FM3 works. Do you plug that into a cab? Does it get plugged directly into a PA? What does the end of this chain look like and what are the various options?
Both of those are options, and they each have their pros and cons. I plug into a PA with mine.
@@Poparad Is portability what you are looking for when plugging into the PA?
Both portability and flexibility. It's nice to have a small, easy to carry rig but because I'm not tied to one specific cab, I can plug into any PA (or use in-ears) and it'll sound more or less the same, depending on how good the PA is.
@@Poparad Awesome! Thank you so much for the advice. I am definitely looking into this and seriously considering a similar build!
Very cool board. I think I saw a MagicStomp on the floor too... ;-)
Good eye! I've got three of those laying around. They were really ahead of their time and still manage to sound good all these years later!
@@Poparad yea for sure! I keep thinking about selling mine but they are just way too cool to let go!
Maybe you have routing scheme for all pedalboard?)
Hello Jeremey!!! The MIDI block on your presets on the FM3 is also needed for the communication between the FM3 and the MC6?? Or is it enough just with both MIDI cables, in/out between both units??
great - could you explain how to setup the two button switch to assign the tuner to tap and hold?
I have them set up as remote switches. They're triggering two of the normal switches in one of layouts on the FM3. I just picked two switches that I wasn't using in one of the layouts (I picked the last two in layout 1) and assigned them to Pedal 2 (EXP/SW TIP) and Pedal 2 (SW RING). The open jack for my other 2-button switch I did the same with two more unused layout switches at the two Pedal 1 assignments. So because they're just literally external remote controls for on board switches, you can program with all the same functionality that the 3 on board ones have, other than you don't have any display text or lights.
@@Poparad thx "stand in switch" was the keyword that I was missing. Now it's working fine for me. I just had to configure setup - I/O - pedal - switch 1 ring/tip behavor from "virtual toggle" to "follow hardware"
Hi from where can I order the Fm3 acrylic cover, damn cool 😎.
Gear by Ceba!
www.gearbyceba.com/
@@Poparad thx
You have a small space below the line selector - I'm sure you could fit something else there😊Great informative video 👍
A fact that has given me many sleepless nights! Haha!
would be amazing if you made a holdsworth lead patch for fm3/axechange
I already did! axechange.fractalaudio.com/detail.php?preset=8057
Jeremey Poparad sounds great thank you!
Jeremey Poparad I downloaded it. Killer man... killer..
I'm trying to do something similar with an HX Stomp, and an Eventide H9. I am getting a Morningstar MC 6 and do you think a Morningstar ML5 loop switcher into the Morningstar can replace the Disaster 3-Loop switcher? thanks, I'm a newbie to Midi.
Yeah, that should all work great. All of the Morningstar stuff is great. Since I recorded this video, I reworked the board a little bit. I now have a Cioks isolated power supply underneath to eliminate some hum I was getting by daisy chaining everything on a 1spot. To make room for it, I replaced the two MIDI Solutions boxes with a Morningstar MIDI splitter. It's smaller and has 8 outputs instead of one. I think the Morningstar loop switcher only has MIDI in, so you'll need a MIDI splitter to reach everything. The Morningstar splitter only has 3.5mm out, so you'll need to get a 3.5 to 5-pin midi adapter cable.
@@Poparad Thanks man!
Tell me do you think the fm3 would be good for just delays and verbs in my loop
The delays and reverbs on this are fantastic. Lots of different algorithms and emulations of classic delay units. Same sounds that the AxeFx III has.
@@Poparad but do you find they are as good as the time line or h9 or any other effect type system. I only want it for effects and no amp emulation
I've never used either of those units so I wouldn't know.
Great video =D Love it!! Can you say me how you've fixed the FM3 on the PT?
I used 3M Dual Loc. I made sure to position the bottom heat vent over an opening in the PT rails.
@@Poparad did you have fixed the dual lock on the extreme left and right? or on the main panel?
Yes, on the left and right sides of the FM3. I took off the rubber end pieces so I should get a flat surface on the bottom of the FM3 for the Dual Loc.
@@Poparad Thank you so much! very kind =D
This is great man! I’m in the process of planning a board now around a FM3 and novo 18. I’ll be using a RJM PBC/6X with a couple external pedals being a H90 and a drive or two.
I’m going to checkout the insert boxes from Disaster Area but how do they connect to the novo? Like how do they stay on the board? Your video has me excited to get started this weekend.
For all the stuff under the board, I just put some Velcro on the bottom, same as I would on the top. Works pretty well.
Hello!
I am referring to your pedal board!
Do you carry this pedal in the original pedaltrain hard case?
And when you put it in the case, does it close without being too tight?
I've never used their hard cases, only the soft ones. When I bought this board, Pedaltrain was only making bags with no pockets (a terrible idea) so I bought a Gator mixing board bag that was a perfect fit. Pedaltrain has since returned to adding pockets to their bags.
Quick question! So through your thru box, it gets into the DPC Micro into the Specular Tempus. Could you do the same for the other thru channel? Like going thru into the FM3 and then out to maybe another midi capable pedal?
Yes, it's just a MIDI splitter so whatever goes in gets duplicated and sent out through two outputs. I currently have it going out to only the FM3, but I could put another pedal or two after that if I wanted to.
The only thing to consider with routing is that the FM3 and the MC6 both send commands but you can't have MIDI Thru enabled on both or you'll get a feedback loop. So one of them has to be the end-of-the-line as far as forwarding messages goes. I have the FM3 setup with MIDI Thru off. However, the MIDI out of the FM3 still sends messages, so I can control the MC6 with it, but it doesn't forward messages from MIDI in through to the MIDI out.
So Midi out of axefx to MC6 in. The MC6 out to midi solutions in. Midi solutions out to tempus?
Originally, Midi Solutions to the DPC Micro loop selector, thru to the Specular Tempus. The Midi Solutions is a two-way splitter, so the second out is going back to the Fractal midi in.
Since I made this video, I replaced the MIDI Solutions boxes with a Morningstar Midi Box. Now it's Fractal out -> MC6 -> MIDI Box -> DPC -> Fractal in, with one of the outputs on the MIDI Box going to the Specular Tempus. It takes up way less space under the board, plus I have 7 more MIDI outs of I ever want to control any other outboard gear (so far never needed to, but it's an option).
How are you mounting the fm3 to the board?
3M Dual Lock. I removed the end caps so it will sit flush to the board and made sure to position the bottom fan vent over one of the rail gaps in the board.
nice board, how do you wire the expression pedals?
They're both plugged into the MC6 and the MC6 is sending that via MIDI to the FM3. I picked a CC number in the FM3 and assigned it to External 1 solo when I want to use that pedal in a patch, I attach External 1 as a modifief to the effect.
Very nicely done, have you got a picture of this posted anywhere so I can steal it for inspiration? Getting my FM3 soon and building a board around it!
Sorry for the late reply! Here are some pictures: www.dropbox.com/sh/twjwydkki7eegoh/AABqB7NRg9rtUXBbJhkmlNlDa?dl=0
Why a noise gate when the Fm3 has one built in?
Since the overdrive pedal is before the FM3, having the noise gate after isn't very effective. I originally didn't have the noise gate pedal on the board but I wasn't able to dial out the noise effectively, so I had to spring for one to place before the overdrive pedal.
Hi man.. The fm3 has compatible with the morning star switcher?
Yes, it works great.
@@Poparad FC-12 it is too expensive for me😂
Which reverbs/delays sound better, those of FM3 or of Specular Tempus?
They're both excellent. The ST sounds wider and more present and the FM3 blends more seamlessly.
I just ordered a fm3 and a fc6 and im curious, did you mount it on the pedaltrain with velcro or do they by any chance have any type of slots to run a zip tie?
I used 3M Dual Loc instead of Velcro. It's thicker so there's a better airway open for the vent under the FM3. I also made sure to position the FM3 so the vent is over one of the rail gaps in the Pedaltrain. I also had to take the sides off the FM3 to make it work. It's really secure on there. Like, I don't know if I'll ever be able to get it off again secure.
@@Poparad oh awesome. Thanks for the info 🙂. Now when you say you dont think you’ll be able to take it off securely, do you mean its kinda on there permanently and taking it off might somehow damage your fm3?
Is that a Temple Audio pedalboard? If yes, how did you attach the FM3 to it?
It's a Pedaltrain Novo 18. I used 3M Dual Lock velcro on the FM3 along with the regular velcro on the Pedaltrain board. I took the feet off of the FM3 but both because of the extra thickness of the Dual Lock and by positioning the FM3 vent over one of the gaps in the Pedaltrain rails, I've made sure to keep the airflow unobstructed. I've used the FM3 for many hours since mounting it and the temperature has been very stable and within normal operating ranges. The Dual Lock is strong as hell, to the point where I don't know if I could actually get it back off the board again if I wanted.
Could you pls tell me which pedal supply you plugged in?
I'm using a 1Spot for all of the pedals except the FM3. I have both the FM3 power cable and the 1Spot plugged into a Y-cable and that's connected to the Powercon jack on the side panel.
@@Poparad Y cable !!!! Thank you!!
Hi there. Great video. Which bright onion foot switch model are you using?
They have way too many options on their website. I just ordered my FM3 yesterday and it’s shipped today.
I have the basic dual momentary switch. I ordered with "normally open," but it actually doesn't matter because you can configure the polarity in the FM3 for either normally open or normally closed in the setup menu. I think mine is the "soft touch" one, but the only difference is whether you hear a click or not. It doesn't affect the functionality.
Hi Jeremy, very nice pedal board, and very well thought out. Quick question: I'm a new FM3 user, and I have an XLR (L) out cable into an XLR input to my ZEDi 10FX mixer without a DI box. Is that ok, or should I use a DI box, or use an instrument cable FM3 out (L) to line input on the mixer? Thanks in advance! 😀
XLR straight to the mixer is fine, but it will be at line level and not mic level, so that just means you will be keeping the gain on the mixer channel lower than you would if it were a mic. When I do shows, I always tell the soundperson that the XLR out is line level so they don't accidently blast the channel.
A DI box is only necessary if you're converting from one type to another (like 1/4" to XLR) or if you want to split the signal, which is what I'm doing. I have the DI box splitting to XLR out for venue sound and 1/4" out for my monitors.
If you don't plan on using Out 2 as an effects loop, you can set it up to copy the signal from Out 1, then you can use the 1/4" outs the same as you would the XLR outs. You could use the 1/4" outs for your own sound and XLR for the venue's sound board and still be able to go stereo on both if you'd like.
@@Poparad Thanks for the quick answer! 🎸
I clicked because insaw the allan holdsworth boost pedal...still on my wish list
It's a great one! The boost alone is a great, musical boost. I use that quite often as a clean boost.
Clearly know what you are doing.for me this is akin to wizardry
Fine if I could get one !!
Couldn't finish watching...got vertigo
Fm9 replaces all that.
Yeah. Had the FM9 existed two years ago, I might've gone quite a different path. That said, I'm still loving this setup. I'm often using a lot of pedals with it, but not always, so the modular nature is great. It's also still a pretty small footprint on stage. The FM9 plus expression pedals would've been a lot wider and probably wouldn't fit many of my close quarters gig situations.