When I was (much) younger, we used to cut with a scapel, glue with white glue and cover with ‘Japanese paper’. Hours of work for a sometimes curious result. Lasers, 3D printers and mylar have revolutionised model making. But if you have a steady hand and a lot of practice, what seems easy to do is not! beautiful work, silence and perfect shot
Yep, gas powered noisy and smelly engines if you could afford it. For me it was mostly tow launched gliders and a two channel radio control that cost a fortune. More crashes than successful flights.
Beautiful! That's how we used to do it - except for the foam parts, all balsa & ply. I lost count of how many models I built in decades past, using this technique. The video brought it all ack. Thanks for that. And... well done, sir.
That's excellent! A beautiful model and a very enjoyable video. I operate on a tiny budget, so still build planes the old-fashioned (i.e. cheap!) way; modern tech such as computer design software, laser-cutting and 3-D printing has really transformed the hobby - but in a GOOD way. I'd love to be able to produce laser-cut parts like you; the precision is amazing. That thin foam looks very good, too. I'll have to see if I can find some here in the UK, because the price of balsa wood is becoming ridiculous. Thanks for the video, and HAPPY LANDINGS. 🙂
@@finn_mcmissile I am also a fan of foam but you missed weight. No way can an E-power 2M foam wing weigh 224gm/8oz. That said, this wing is really only for ZERO wind and too light to be practical. Everything about an aircraft, big or small, is a compromise. When you say foam is "cheaper", compared to what? Depending on wing span foam cores from a CNC shop are $60 to $80 for literally $2 of foam. Most of the cost is setup time and shipping. If you're talking about a store-bought plane, the last one I bought was a Multiplex Fun Cub, now about $150 with no motor or electronics. Few kits of that size cost much less. I'm guessing the wing in the video can be built for about $60 total, $15 airframe and $45 motor and electronics.
You are the Man, dude your design's and builds just keep getting better and better. You may want to consider putting together some kits and selling them.
Beautiful video thank you, I am surprised that you didnt appear to need any reflex curve on the wing? Or perhaps that coud be acheived by make each elevon be set slightly "up" ?
fun build, I always loved putting on the monocoat, they make a smaller iron for that its so much easier than a full sized one, got mine on ebay 20 years ago for like 5$
Ваша аккуратность и терпение достойны уважения. Вкликолепно спроектированный и сделанный самолет, жаль только что была выбрана изначально неустойчивая схема.
@@Zoey_the_Rat Тут вопрос не в "хорошо-нехорошо", а скорее "зачем"? Добавь ему тоненькую хвостовую балку как на Zohd Drift или Wing Dragon - уже в разы лучше для новичка будет. И ошибок больше прощает, и позволяет загрузить нос (той же камерой), оттриммировать РВ и летать без каких-либо проблем.
have you tried to put a propeller inside a wing, like a ducted fan, but in blower fan style, one per wing on each side, total of two, yep large delta wings or square wings work better with internal large prop. possibly multiple smaller side-by-side wing-internal props would work too.
I remember *_WAY_* back when I was in school, I once lent out a Book on DIY Topics that had one Project within it with plans for a Soaring Plane ( the classic design with an elongated Fuselage ) using a similar construction for the Wings ( and Fuselage ). Laser Cutters ( or CNC Machines ) were obviously not a thing back then ( at least not for regular ppl outside of the industry ) thus requiring a different approach to making things like the progressively tapered ribs like shaping them out of a condensed block of wood ( internal cavities and all ) using just two guides at the ends and then sawing the individual ribs out of the block using a bandsaw ( or perhaps stacking sheets of Balsa? ). Nowadays you just either Laser Cut, CNC Mill or 3D Print ( on much more affordable Equipment ) them out using your respective material of choice. Never once built such a plane despite its intrigue 🤣
Sometimes I wonder about aerodynamic theory, no need for the complex flying wing reflexed airfoil just a Clark y and it flies like a dream - you even made a flat piece of cardboard fly - You’re still my favourite YT model channel. Please do a PC12 please!!
Amazing build! I wonder how well it would fly if you covered the wings with C60 solar cells. Looks like you could probably get 24 or more of them on there at ~2-3W each.
That is incredible to still see. I still build my park flyers with balsa wood and dope covering. It takes a long but very rewarding to build your own RC planes. I really enjoyed this video. Thanks for sharing. Subscribed and liked.
The use of XPS foam to replace balsa parts is a great idea for keeping light weight. Is the XPS 3mm foam also cut via laser, or using other technique? Is awesome that XPS foam is available in multiple colors. Like the techniques and attention to detail in your custom design.
I've been thinking of building a slow-flying plane that is all just wing. This is superb! Thanks for a very good video that shows every detail of the build. Just curious about one thing. Did you use a laser cutter to cut the parts? Did you use any software for the design of the wing shape?
@@NumaVIG thanks, I was just wondering this film does shrink somewhat. I thought these laminating films would not shrink. Need to test more with what I have at home. I really like you stile of the model hobby!!
Здравствуйте. Может подскажете чем покрасить? Пенопласт обклеил калькой на жидком ПВА. Покрасил акриловой краской с помощью кисточки. И возникло подозрение, что краска будет плохо держаться. Покрасить краской из баллончика нет возможности. Могу только кисточкой. Вобщем знаете чем можно покрасить, чтоб именно кисточкой? Бывают ли эмали типа акриловой, чтоб покрепче держались? Надеюсь понятно объяснил.
есть такая штука как поролоновый спонж, от распылителя не отличить th-cam.com/video/gfljUWYrVcI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=mgzz6t77qs2twJS9&t=1782 акрил бывает разный и одной и тойже фирмы разные цвета ложатся по разному, я крашу по слегка ошкуренному пенопласту без калек и ПВА, держится отлично
@@NumaVIG понятно. А у меня пенопласт обклеенный. Вот и интересуюсь, мало ли вдруг есть технология покраски, для такого варианта. Баллончиком не покрасить.
Hi, how are you? I really enjoyed watching your videos. I almost do every day. I became a Patreon but I don’t know how to unlock the plans Could you please guide me? Thanks Chelu
пленка для запекания, но надо реички промазывать клеем для потолочки ELTITANS или БЭф (в аптеке). Клею надо дать просохнуть. Температура утюга как для шелка, но надо эксперементировать.
Поздравляю, ваш канал один из лучших по авиамоделизму. Опять очень интересная модель , а так же технология и в этот раз еще выбранная " неустойчивая" аэродинамическая схема. Предположил что имеет 3 -х осевой стабилизатор полета или элероны приподнятые формируя S профил нрыла или что то другое? Обьясните пожалуйста.
будет полный штиль попробую без гироскопа, а так его просто сдувает. вот с точно такой же нагрузкой на крыло в полный штиль без гироскопа и элеронов th-cam.com/video/8JZKqzNpzsY/w-d-xo.html (рулевые поверхности без обдува пропеллером на такой скорости практически не работают)
Обычно у авиамоделистов много моторные схемы редко встречаются. Было бы интересно если на такое длинное крыло поставить несколько небольших моторчика, обдув крыла был бы хороший.
We used to rewind CD rom brushless motors for planes wayy back in the day and salvage lithium cells from old cellphones and solder up our own lithium chargers. For a while, it was the only way to get a relatively light weight brushless set up that didn’t cost a week’s wages.
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No music!!! Thank God!!! May God bless you richly for not having music!!!
When I was (much) younger, we used to cut with a scapel, glue with white glue and cover with ‘Japanese paper’. Hours of work for a sometimes curious result.
Lasers, 3D printers and mylar have revolutionised model making.
But if you have a steady hand and a lot of practice, what seems easy to do is not!
beautiful work, silence and perfect shot
Yep, gas powered noisy and smelly engines if you could afford it. For me it was mostly tow launched gliders and a two channel radio control that cost a fortune.
More crashes than successful flights.
watching your videos is like meditation. seeing your creations fly is a pleasure. a little bit of silence and slowness in our loud and hectic world ❤
Beautiful!
That's how we used to do it - except for the foam parts, all balsa & ply.
I lost count of how many models I built in decades past, using this technique.
The video brought it all ack. Thanks for that.
And... well done, sir.
How did you made the V-form? It seems complicated to put it within the ribs.
Except for laser cut parts. So nice compared to cutting out by hand or “die crushed”
That's excellent! A beautiful model and a very enjoyable video. I operate on a tiny budget, so still build planes the old-fashioned (i.e. cheap!) way; modern tech such as computer design software, laser-cutting and 3-D printing has really transformed the hobby - but in a GOOD way.
I'd love to be able to produce laser-cut parts like you; the precision is amazing. That thin foam looks very good, too. I'll have to see if I can find some here in the UK, because the price of balsa wood is becoming ridiculous.
Thanks for the video, and HAPPY LANDINGS. 🙂
Fantastic! Old school construction is being rediscovered because it is still the best combination for strength/cost vs. weight.
I disagree, foam is cheaper and easier to repair.
@@finn_mcmissile I am also a fan of foam but you missed weight. No way can an E-power 2M foam wing weigh 224gm/8oz. That said, this wing is really only for ZERO wind and too light to be practical. Everything about an aircraft, big or small, is a compromise.
When you say foam is "cheaper", compared to what? Depending on wing span foam cores from a CNC shop are $60 to $80 for literally $2 of foam. Most of the cost is setup time and shipping. If you're talking about a store-bought plane, the last one I bought was a Multiplex Fun Cub, now about $150 with no motor or electronics. Few kits of that size cost much less. I'm guessing the wing in the video can be built for about $60 total, $15 airframe and $45 motor and electronics.
I love to watch this video... This kind of build is my favorite... A right mix of tecnology and old stuff... Love it❤
Thank you for sharing
You know for sure how to design slow flyers too, the models I prefer. This kind of Fauvel profile is fascinating.
Thanks for your channel!
You are the Man, dude your design's and builds just keep getting better and better.
You may want to consider putting together some kits and selling them.
Wow - model aircraft techniques have changed since I last built a kit.
Circa 1973... !!
No kidding! I was drooling over that laser cutting setup! The last wood kit I built was decades ago.
Beautiful video thank you, I am surprised that you didnt appear to need any reflex curve on the wing? Or perhaps that coud be acheived by make each elevon be set slightly "up" ?
Технология у Вас в моделировании развивается! Как всегда хортшее видео, приятно смотреть!
Your design is awesome , as are the jigs and the tools you have created. Very clever and very thoughtful problem solving.
Pure art. Wonderful, thank you for this.
fun build, I always loved putting on the monocoat, they make a smaller iron for that its so much easier than a full sized one, got mine on ebay 20 years ago for like 5$
what a sweet little floaty mouse. I still can't believe a straight wing plank can work but obviously it does.
it have 3-d flight assistant I think or I am wrong?
Fantastic build. I have tried to cover balsa builds in the past, but the wing always warps. I’m jazzed to build again after seeing this.
Ваша аккуратность и терпение достойны уважения. Вкликолепно спроектированный и сделанный самолет, жаль только что была выбрана изначально неустойчивая схема.
Вы удивитесь как хорошо летают маленькие бесхвостки с прямым крылом. Правда, не с такими профилями
@@Zoey_the_Rat Тут вопрос не в "хорошо-нехорошо", а скорее "зачем"? Добавь ему тоненькую хвостовую балку как на Zohd Drift или Wing Dragon - уже в разы лучше для новичка будет. И ошибок больше прощает, и позволяет загрузить нос (той же камерой), оттриммировать РВ и летать без каких-либо проблем.
задача была проверить годится ли такая технология для 2-х метрового крыла, следующий вышел как надо, даже лучше
have you tried to put a propeller inside a wing, like a ducted fan, but in blower fan style, one per wing on each side, total of two, yep large delta wings or square wings work better with internal large prop. possibly multiple smaller side-by-side wing-internal props would work too.
Aside from added weight, a tiny FPV cam on this would be relaxing
I remember *_WAY_* back when I was in school, I once lent out a Book on DIY Topics that had one Project within it with plans for a Soaring Plane ( the classic design with an elongated Fuselage ) using a similar construction for the Wings ( and Fuselage ). Laser Cutters ( or CNC Machines ) were obviously not a thing back then ( at least not for regular ppl outside of the industry ) thus requiring a different approach to making things like the progressively tapered ribs like shaping them out of a condensed block of wood ( internal cavities and all ) using just two guides at the ends and then sawing the individual ribs out of the block using a bandsaw ( or perhaps stacking sheets of Balsa? ). Nowadays you just either Laser Cut, CNC Mill or 3D Print ( on much more affordable Equipment ) them out using your respective material of choice. Never once built such a plane despite its intrigue 🤣
It shows that this is not your first build. Impressive quality. 👌
All in all you've had made me speechless !
It's too beautiful to fly and risk crashing.
Video for the OCD crowd. Thanks you.
Don't know what OCD means in this context. 🤔
@@baxbanni2226 How everything has to be perfect.
What is the material of the film used to cover the wings and rudders? I don’t think it’s possible to make a wing much lighter.
Sometimes I wonder about aerodynamic theory, no need for the complex flying wing reflexed airfoil just a Clark y and it flies like a dream - you even made a flat piece of cardboard fly - You’re still my favourite YT model channel. Please do a PC12 please!!
A Clark Y would nose dive into the ground if the trailing edge were not reflexed. This has been known for almost 100 years.
Amazing build! I wonder how well it would fly if you covered the wings with C60 solar cells. Looks like you could probably get 24 or more of them on there at ~2-3W each.
That is incredible to still see. I still build my park flyers with balsa wood and dope covering. It takes a long but very rewarding to build your own RC planes. I really enjoyed this video. Thanks for sharing. Subscribed and liked.
Hi there 😊 did you use the neje 3 plus to cut the xps foam as well?
yes, except white and blue foam
Which of your planes has the lowest airspeed? Thank you!
Laminating film - why have I not known/tried this? I assume it's much lighter than the "standard" iron-on coverings?
stunning build. when will you post the plans?
What setting did you use on the iron to shrink the plastic?
Aghhhh, him cutting those out and poking out thr pueces was like ASMR!
Great job !! I can remember the times, when you do ALL these cuttings with a razor-blade and a sharp knife ! Boy o boy 😂
I'm still living in the past,, if I built that it would have to be with my coping saw drill an exacto
@@danpenry8899wow. Congrats for this big portion of good nerves ! 😊😅
What type of laser cutter was used ?
Hightech at it's best, very contemplating!😊
Tolong jawab, plastik apa yg anda gunakan untuk covering sayap?
Well done! What airfoil profile did you use for this?
The use of XPS foam to replace balsa parts is a great idea for keeping light weight. Is the XPS 3mm foam also cut via laser, or using other technique? Is awesome that XPS foam is available in multiple colors. Like the techniques and attention to detail in your custom design.
Yes, everything is cut with a diode laser (problems only with white and blue foam)
Thankyou was looking for this comment what size or watt laser is the neje 3 plus?@NumaVIG
all manufacturers have an official website with all models and characteristics
@@NumaVIG have u used a 5watt laser to cut coloured foam?
I've been thinking of building a slow-flying plane that is all just wing. This is superb! Thanks for a very good video that shows every detail of the build. Just curious about one thing. Did you use a laser cutter to cut the parts? Did you use any software for the design of the wing shape?
diode laser cuts all colors except white and blue (for this need CO2 laser)
where do you get that glue and dispenser?
L love the videos. Mesmerizing to watch. What setting is your iron for the film?
Building magic....so enjoyable to watch...😏🇬🇧
Que pegamento usas para depron ?
Great build, wish I had your CAD expertise.
This planes efficiency gonna be bonkers
Love your effort loved the covering thanks
Why sometimes superglue, sometimes woodglue?
nice build and plane congratulations!!!
would you share the exact brand/source of the laminating film?
no name chinese
@@NumaVIG thanks, I was just wondering this film does shrink somewhat. I thought these laminating films would not shrink. Need to test more with what I have at home. I really like you stile of the model hobby!!
Ligero si va a salir volara de lujo . ❤
Was this real time laser CNC, how much rated laser power of these cheap Genmitsu laserheads ?
No symmetrical airfoil!? That’s impressive!
But it's still not a good airfoil for a flying wing. I'm sure the elevons are up more than they'd need to be with a good flying wing airfoil.
Как всегда, отличная работа! Пенопласт к дереву на ПВА приклеиваете?
а есть еще какой клей похожий на сметану?
Modeling anno 2024. Incredible!😊
Прикольный самолетик. А стрингеры и лонжероны из чего? Фанера? Шпон? Бальза?
Great video, it's so relaxing 👌
Hi, I have a Falcon 2 laser machine, it is 22w but I am not able to cut polystirene , do you have any suggestions? What should I do? Thank you
Diode laser doesn't cut white and blue polystirene
@@NumaVIG so, I need CO2 laser to do this kind of work?
Use red or black materials.
always come with a good video. you are the best
Beautiful. Planks are the best.
They certainly defy expectations, but I'm still sceptical about them
Well done! What software was used?
Blender
подскажи пожалуйста, где термопленку покупал?
what film are you using?
wo bekomme ich den Bausatz zu kaufen.
That glider looks like it could stay up for hours.
Can you please make it possible to be saved?
Can you advise what CAD software you use please?
Blender
Very cool build!
Absolut Genial ❤
Could it fly without the rudder and just elevons for turning?
At low speed the elevons are not effective when turning
@@NumaVIG what is the maximum load to thrust ratio?
Not the way I would have constructed the wing and certainly not the amount of glue I would have used but good project for you.
Очень хорошая работа. Отличная работа, есть ли ссылка на пластиковые шкурки, пожалуйста, шкурки на моем самолете очень тугие и часто рвут ребра крыла!
www.google.com/search?q=пленка+для+ламинирования+24+микрон
Спасибо!
Здравствуйте.
Может подскажете чем покрасить?
Пенопласт обклеил калькой на жидком ПВА.
Покрасил акриловой краской с помощью кисточки.
И возникло подозрение, что краска будет плохо держаться.
Покрасить краской из баллончика нет возможности.
Могу только кисточкой.
Вобщем знаете чем можно покрасить, чтоб именно кисточкой?
Бывают ли эмали типа акриловой, чтоб покрепче держались?
Надеюсь понятно объяснил.
есть такая штука как поролоновый спонж, от распылителя не отличить th-cam.com/video/gfljUWYrVcI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=mgzz6t77qs2twJS9&t=1782 акрил бывает разный и одной и тойже фирмы разные цвета ложатся по разному, я крашу по слегка ошкуренному пенопласту без калек и ПВА, держится отлично
@@NumaVIG понятно.
А у меня пенопласт обклеенный.
Вот и интересуюсь, мало ли вдруг есть технология покраски, для такого варианта.
Баллончиком не покрасить.
Superb build
Why don’t you use ca ?
Old school. Love it.
Hi, how are you? I really enjoyed watching your videos. I almost do every day. I became a Patreon but I don’t know how to unlock the plans
Could you please guide me?
Thanks
Chelu
Write me a message on Patreon, I need to see your payment history
Is there a washout (I doubt it !!) ...only Reflex ? orr errr meeeow?
washout not necessary at low speeds
Amazing brother❤
How the hell is that stable?!? Amazing
Nice plane. Is there a kit out.
That is beautiful. And, the video is mesmerizing. 😊
Easiest subcribe of my life
Что у вас за клей? Не пойму просто, будто бы столярный пва, но клеит ли он пенопласт?
пенопласт к пенопласту клеит www.vseinstrumenti.ru/product/klej-pva-novohim-d3-super-b-0-5-kg-00-00004036-9078494/
@@NumaVIG спасибо! вы не знаете, есть ли подобная, только цветная пленка? как я понял ваша - пленка для ламинирования документов и прочего
есть в Германии, гугли Oracover lite
а вы не подскажите где можно купить такую клейкую пленку? везде находил очень толстую и тяжелую
на озоне
пленка для запекания, но надо реички промазывать клеем для потолочки ELTITANS или БЭф (в аптеке). Клею надо дать просохнуть. Температура утюга как для шелка, но надо эксперементировать.
14:50 - ой, сколько же я раз таким образом переломал реек)
Excellent Work!
Поздравляю, ваш канал один из лучших по авиамоделизму. Опять очень интересная модель , а так же технология и в этот раз еще выбранная " неустойчивая" аэродинамическая схема. Предположил что имеет 3 -х осевой стабилизатор полета или элероны приподнятые формируя S профил нрыла или что то другое? Обьясните пожалуйста.
будет полный штиль попробую без гироскопа, а так его просто сдувает. вот с точно такой же нагрузкой на крыло в полный штиль без гироскопа и элеронов th-cam.com/video/8JZKqzNpzsY/w-d-xo.html (рулевые поверхности без обдува пропеллером на такой скорости практически не работают)
Спасибо за ответ. Теперь понятно. Было очень интересно смотреть. Желаю удачи.
Обычно у авиамоделистов много моторные схемы редко встречаются. Было бы интересно если на такое длинное крыло поставить несколько небольших моторчика, обдув крыла был бы хороший.
Где вы берете тонкую фанеру 2мм
Well Done build video - Thanks
what laser cutter are you using? looking to buy one for future projects
0:24 kinda hard to spot the name
Neje 3 Plus.
What type of laser machine did you use
0:22 left
@NumaVIG who produce this transparent foil?:>
www.google.com/search?q=laminating+film+roll+24+micron
There we go there’s the ca !
Колко микрона е фолиото?
Superb !!!
Yeah, it has.... dihedral!
Задача: сделать радиоуправляемый самолет с приводом для компакт-дисков или двигателем с жестким диском (вы можете модифицировать катушку мотоцикла)
Ready enough to make. It won't fly under its own power, but I'll make it, no problem :)
challange make a rc plane with cd drive or hard disk motor (you are allowed to modify the motos coil )
Too heavy
Nah do it with a pc fan as an edf but change the motor
It’s been done
That is how beginning of brushless motors looked like in RC world
We used to rewind CD rom brushless motors for planes wayy back in the day and salvage lithium cells from old cellphones and solder up our own lithium chargers. For a while, it was the only way to get a relatively light weight brushless set up that didn’t cost a week’s wages.
Boa tarde, você pode me envia o projetos desse avião com as medidas?