Giant Steps - John Coltrane - Jazz Guitar improvisation - original speed 286 bpm - Moreno Viglione
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- Moreno Viglione
Giant Steps "fast" solo improvisation
original John Coltrane "Giant Steps" album speed 286 bpm
Eastman AR 371 CE
012 D'Addario Chromes flat wound
Mesa Boogie Subway Blues with Eminence Black Bird 12' speaker
video/audio Samsung phone
iRig mic Cast microphone
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For everyone out there wanting to know how to improvise like this over Giant Steps here are some concepts that may help:
1. Learn the melody and sing it to yourself to ingrain the changes in your mind, if you know where you are then you know what's coming and can use different devices to get there.
2. Know arpeggio sequences in the same position with different fingerings so you are always able to play the changes in whatever position you may end up.
3. Know arpeggio neighbor notes that are either a half step above or below each arpeggio tone
4. Know arpeggios starting from each tone and their neighbor tones (best to avoid starting an arpeggio on the root more often than not, thirds and sevenths are perfect intervals apart, fifth ascending and fourth descending, makes for great voice leading when improvising).
5. Understand that various scales will fit around an arpeggio and the power of pentatonic, here meaning add an additional tone to an arpeggio so it doesn't sound like a stock arpeggio.
6. Understand intervallic relationships on the fretboard to make all of this simpler to get under your fingers and take the time to really nail this.
7. After working on all the above items mixing them together in your practice so you are comfortable with them, forget all of them when improvise and just have fun playing a tune you worked out.
a little long but very detailed. Good job! thank you !!!
@@morenoviglione these are the things I wish I found when I first started learning how to improvise to really nail that hitting the changes sound
Cheers man! Btw, in relation to scales. What scales would fit in a jazz composition like this?
@@simonrodriguez7204 I wouldn't think in strict scales per se, more of hitting neighboring scale tones when sequencing some arpeggios.
If you're working on playing the changes then you have a ii-V-I in G, Eb, and B. You could analyze the common tones of each ii-V-I, then include each chord's 3rd and build scales around those tones. You could do the same for 7ths. This allows you freedom to build some interesting sounding scales to experiment with and see how they sound against those changes.
Building scales around common tones from a set of chords will give you scales you can use across multiple chords that aren't just the scale those chords were derived from. This'll give you material for more interesting lines to explore new ideas and concepts to use in your improvisation.
@@crotts1984 makes perfect sense. Thanks a lot man!
So many talented people on TH-cam
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Thank you!🎸
but can you play smoke on the water
of course I can, look at my videos, I play so many things
@@morenoviglione oh sorry i was making a joke because you are so skilled i said as a joke if you could play a real easy song but nice video man you did a amazing job
@@crenabyssxx9289 no problem, I knew you were joking.
Thank man !!
but can he play green day?
Rudy?
So technical yet parts sound so laid back.
I actually enjoyed this I didn't know such a relaxing improv was possible for this song!
I guess it's the magic of guitar sound lol
thank you!! The secret is to make everything seem easy 😀. Actually, before becoming so easy there was a lot of practice, hours and hours of analysis and exercise.
@@morenoviglione I could imagine! I can barely improvise over a repeated I chord 😂
@@morenoviglione A wise teacher of mine said 'it takes a lot of effort to make something look effortless'. Great job buddy, you certainly are inspiring people to get down to it!
@@miguelangelriccione4950 thank you!!
This guy kept the straightest face while shredding that guitar to pieces.. amazing
Thank you!!😑
That's not called shredding. He's improvising. Shredding is in rock and metal. This is pure improv and jazz by the maestro Coltrane
@@arindambasu7841 Same thing really
How right you are !! I hate that word to boot...The rock guys merely play and bend pentatonic scales to thrill the uneducated audience, but that ain't improvising, it's bull-shitting !!
this is what sounds when spongebob and patrick stole something
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Free Form Jazz
U deserve way more likes
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Lol
I played a D7 once
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*once*
How did it feel?
Dude, this was the best improvisation I’ve EVER heard, so clean.
Thank you very much!!!!🎸👍🏻
@@morenoviglione 👍
This should be showed to every guitar student who doesn't practice their scales and arpeggios, great cover 🙏🙏
Thank you!
I still watch this and am astounded. I'd love to listen to you break down a solo like this, or just explain in general your mindset and ways you approach something like this. I really struggle with fast key changes, logical phrasing and melody through complex changes, and generally just keeping up with the changes.
thanks!!!
what you say about your difficulty playing on fast chord changes is a problem common to everyone, perhaps it is one of the most important goals of those who practice music.
my advice (like any teacher) is to study scales, arpeggios, and harmony. Then start with the most common progressions like II V I etc etc, but anyone can tell you this.
I can tell you that, Giant Steps is definitely one of the most difficult chord changes to approach but it is not impossible to play, in fact once "unlocked" it is very fun even at high speeds, I have been using it for years as a warm-up. So, what to do, learn the fingerings of the scales for the three keys B, Eb and G, for each area of the neck, make sure that the fingerings are as close as possible to each other, then move on to the next area. Once you have done this, isolate the two giant steps progressions, there are only two, the relationship between the various chords and the key is repeated. Make sure your solo starts on the last bar of the harmonic progression, C#m (II) F#7 (V) of Bmaj7.
The harmonic relationship between C#m, F7, B, D7, G, Bb7, Eb is the same as that between Am, D7, G, Bb7, Eb, F#7, B, so each lick or passage between the boxes of the scale is only moved on the neck, learn to play here, then move on to the three II V I in the three keys B G and Eb. When you can play the scales you can focus on the arpeggios of each chord and progressively on the degrees of the chords.
I hope this is useful to you, so I have guaranteed you a few months of study, write to me when you are ready for further advice.
I am thinking of making some video lessons for giant steps, I will do them in Italian but I will try to be clear and give practical examples.
See you soon and good practice
He has played more notes than in the whole Rolling Stones discography
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I don’t get it
Reminds me of the movie Amadeus. "Too many notes!" What! There's as many as there needs to be!
all jokes aside that might actually be true LMAO
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During the break - "Do you know any jazz tunes?"
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He makes it look so easy!
Thank you!!
easily one of the most difficult guitar skill to master! kudos
Thank you !!!!!
It should have a trigger warning because at the same time it inspires it frustrates. Great job, man!
Hello. Thank you !! I'm glad you're inspired and it's normal that you're frustrated, even for me it was the same. I've been playing guitar for thirty years and practicing giant steps was a challenge, but after many hours it became a lot of fun . if you want to do it you have to try and try again. If you need I can give you some advice. Thanks again!
Yes... We would appreciate advice aloot...
Joshua N That’s how it is tho
Where's the advice then?
Lol
I wish you played this longer. I could listen to you play this for an hour and never get bored.
Thank you!!!🎸
Set loop 😁
In the vernacular of the genre, this guy has 'chops.'
Thanks!
I love the way something catches his attention at 0:40 - he turns around but the notes keep flowing regardless ! That's when you know that you've probably practised this enough:)
Thank you!!
I would like to congratulate Moreno Viglione for his excellent interpretation of Giant Steeps. For me he is one of the great virtuosos. Hats off because it was necessary to remember all the sequences of the improvisation by heart!
Thank you very much!!!🎸🙏
Wish I could like this a thousand times over. Improvising over these chords at this speed is insane.
Thank you!!!!!
The best part to me is at 0:39 when you get distracted by something in the room, yet continue to subconsciously shred… true talent
Thank you!😁🎸
Great stuff man. That’s one crazy progression to solo over
Thank you!!!
Ι Keep coming back!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤ I don't think it's a coincidence that you play exactly as many choruses as the original recording wow !
hi, thank you. Honestly, I never counted the number of choruses, I found a backing track and used it. Thank you!!
@@morenoviglione keep up the good work you re a true master thanks 🙏!
*INSPIRED* by video.
-starts playing random notes on guitar
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Me looking up ‘how to improvise on guitar’ on TH-cam after this
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@@SuperMoodyyy Figure out the scale of the song you are improvising to and play random shit in the scale. Boom.
@@fasszopobuzifeherciganyzsi6817 But this is Jazz, bay-bay! Add some chromatic notes! And play the scale differently on the way down to the way up beacause REASONS!
My chest caved in when you actually started soloing; fantastic man, i wish to play like you someday.
Thank you!!!!
Nailed those changes
I try
You are truly amazing! I can tell you sacrifice sleep for your art!
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Thank you!🎸
You are very welcome!
Do you have the transcription for this exact version?
Please, make a video explaining your approach for this song!! If I master this piece I can rest in peace!!
Ok, I'll try to do a video lesson on giant steps. In my opinion this piece needs to be analyzed and learned by dividing the first part (which starts from the last bar) and then repeated by the Am (II of G) from the second part, II VI in Eb, G and B. This is the way.
Pleeaaase do this video!!!!
Absolutely incredible. Technique abound and so beautifully musical.
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maybe I'll be able to do this with my guitar one very fine day
Surely, practice is the way. thank you!
One of the few best I have ever seen and heard
Thank you!!!!
Slowly but surely I’m pushing the tempo on this one, though I’ve been practicing half heartedly and am nowhere near here. I feel like wrapping your head around the feeling and color of each key is maybe half the battle. I’ve started to learn what each key sound like, G the most light-hearted and whimsical, Eb the brightest and sweetest, B the most confident and resolved. This is just my opinion but I believe connecting emotion to technique is the best way to learn songs and memorize sound. If you can remember how a chord made you feel, you’ll probably be able to learn to identify it when you hear it somewhere else, and I think the same concept applies here. Again I have a lot of physical limitations with this song still and even at slower tempos I’m not perfect with it, but I think it’s been a helpful framework to me and hopefully to some of you kiddos out there! Happy shedding!
In equal tempered tuning i believe you are incorrect
@@spacejamgoliath How so?
Eb is the tonic, interesting how B feels the most resolved to you. But... Yeah, this technique will probably not help you at all with soloing over Giant Steps.
@@spacejamgoliath I don't think either of you are understanding my point. I've been to music school too guys, lol. I don't know how you can say definitively that this song is in Eb objectively when it spends equal amounts of time in about all three keys. In fact I dare you to find me a lead sheet written with any key signature on it. Do you realize what you're arguing? I'm basically saying that music and emotion should be inseparable and considered, and you're responding to that idea saying it's unhelpful.
I'm not saying you should only rely on emotion. Obviously if you don't have the technique to play up to tempo, you'll never master this tune. But you know how a minor chord feels and how a major chord feels to you. It doesn't really matter how you feel it, just that you feel it. I understand that perhaps using the circle of fourths you may look and see that the key of B should hypothetically be brightest, followed by G and then Eb based on the orders of flats and sharps, but that doesn't really matter. What matters is that in the context of this song, I'm feeling the same thing about each key consistently each time I hear or play it. If I feel like the key of B drives me to want to kill my grandmother, that's fine as long as that's what I feel on every listen, and pretty soon I can learn to depend on that. That's ear training 101. The best musicians aren't describing sounds as math equations; it's not about WHAT a sound is, it's about what it sounds LIKE. The latter is what drove you to want to be a musician, it's what continues to shape your taste in music, and it shouldn't go by the wayside now. I think that's incredibly presumptuous to say "This technique will not help you at all". It already has helped me... That's why I wrote that comment originally. I can tell you that when I started wrapping my head around each different key center and found I was able to modestly keep up with them as they're shifting, my playing on this song is a lot stronger than what it once was. I'm still lost on your comment that the "feel" of any one key could even be the antithesis of Giant Steps. Would you explain that to me more in depth please?
I have a very strong ear and relative pitch. I realize there's no real way to verify this--and I hope I don't come across as tooting my own horn. I almost never ask anybody for chord sheets because I usually know the song after I've played it with somebody. There are obviously limitations to this; There's no way I would have figured out the harmony in the moment to Giant Steps, and a ton of contemporary jazz and classical music would easily stump me. I transcribe just like everybody else slowly and carefully. But when it comes to styles I play in a lot in my circles (rock, indie, pop, jazz, etc), the people around me are always impressed with my ability to pick up songs while playing them. I believe this solely comes from an ability to connect with the way something sounds. In your head you may be able to hear the sound of a "plagal cadence". I bet you at some point you heard somebody call that the "amen" cadence. Everybody understands that it is a very Holy and spiritual sound. You start to internalize that (most good music is internalized sound), and pretty soon you hear it in a song and you are able to pick it up right away. At a point you will stop thinking about that original connection because it's strong enough now that it's lightening fast and your brain doesn't need that label on it anymore, it comes naturally. Still though, it started by making an emotional connection to the sound-- x sounds like y. It may not always be as concrete as that, but, unless you are tone deaf, you are always reacting to music and sound and trying to categorize it. To neglect that and act as though it isn't applicable in this one instance, as it seems the two of you are suggesting, seems very closed minded to me. As Sonny Rollins said ever so eloquently, "'You can't think and play at the same time".
TL;DR--music is emotion--or at least it's supposed to be. Ear training and effective improvisation looks like categorizing a sound (feeling), learning to depend on it (internalization), and using it at will. That's one method I'm suggesting with this tune. Do you have alternative methods you've explored that have helped you a lot more? That's not a rhetorical question, I'm genuinely curious and open to ideas!
@@spacejamgoliath I think you're putting words in my mouth, friend. Never said anything about patterns within. You can definitely argue that learning prescribed arpeggios and patterns to fit over each change is hugely important, but it feels pretty condescending and closed-minded to argue that it's the superior way to learn a song like this.
Of course the key centers are not the only thing we have to worry about in Giant Steps. I could stay in each key center perfectly and be playing only avoid tones and my improv would sound like shit. However, your argument in favor of patterns over all else has some negative repercussions too. I can think of a few youtube videos of players who've played over this tune with comment sections that reek of people calling it "stale" or "uninspired" because it makes use of too many digital patterns and predictable movements.
I never said anything about patterns, but I've learned quite a few either on my own accord, transcribing, or just being handed down a drill from a teacher. It can definitely help to make your playing feel intentional, but not necessarily authentic. You could play one patter over this whole song if you wanted to, but nobody will consider it a clinic on how to play on Giant Steps.
Furthermore, a synonym for a pattern would be a "repetition". Music is based on repetition. "It's not a mistake once you do it a second time". The implication in that is that you know what a mistake sounds like, and you know what a non-mistake sounds like. That means that you have an emotional bias one way or the other.
Any which way you look at it, you have to attach emotional response to effective music at one point or another. This is a really hard thing to argue because it seems so basic and abstract, but I think it's true, and I think for you to come at my original comment preaching that looking for emotional connection to each key center in the tune is ineffective seems really closed minded of you. I know you can't just cling to a key center and hope that one of the seven notes you played is correct. If that's what it seemed like I was implying, perhaps I was being obtuse. But I do think it's important that you understand what key you're in at all times, obviously among other things, and I still maintain that.
Some really cool lines here! Bravo.
Thank you!!🎸👍🏻
Charlie Christian & John Coltrane are smiling at you from heaven man, thank you for this video.
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Incredible mate. Just incredible.
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How does someone learn to improvise like this? Truly incredible.
thank you!!! It takes a lot of practice. If you look in the comments I wrote some useful tips.
1235
@@DaMonster ?
@@morenoviglione he means the coltrane patterns :-)
@@cx777o perfect!!
1235 !!!!
Beautiful playing.
2:05 a personal favourite.
Thank you!!!
You are a beast. This one my favorite songs and albums. Its cool to see it on guitar. Thanks.
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Holy smokes. Just gouged my eyes out. This is insane!! Gotta practice more. Good job man
Thank you very much!!!
Isn’t it typical that here we have an amazing jazz guitarist yet he is not playing with the greatest players of our time. I truly think the best artists are like this guy .. just playing in his room for the joy of playing music.
Thanks!! Fortunately I don't only play in my room 😆, I play professionally for many years. I did several records and tours, in my name and for other artists. Sometimes I even happened to play with the "big ones". However it's true, I like playing the guitar like the first day. If you like looking for my records on Spotify. Thanks again !!!!!!
素晴らしいです、こんなふうに何時になったら弾けるようになれるだろか、少しづつでも演るしかない10年はかかる。
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Glad to see all my giant step lovers get the same recommended video all in the same week! Good good stuff man!!
Thank you!!
Giant Steps lovers, lmao!
Beautiful!!!!!!!!
Thank you!!
Pure genius. So accurate. So many ideas. love you, man!
it seems to me too! 😆 thank you !!!
Very nice job.Trane would approve 😊
Thank you!!🎸
This is one of the first songs I learned to play when I started learning jazz guitar, always get a sense of anxiety every time I hear the song now. This is some of the best work I've heard over this song, well done!
I'm really happy, thanks !!
Jesus FIRST SONG!?!?
Your FIRST SONG?!! You've got balls of lead, I'll give you that!
So so impressed sir. Incredible playing
Thank you very much!🎸
Excellent! You making look it so easy, but I'm sure it's a lots of work and practice behind all this great improvisation!
Would love to learn this! Thank you.
Hi! Thank you!!!
You're right, there are many hours of practice, analysis and exercises behind this solo.
I'm very happy if you find interesting ideas. Thanks again!!
Your right hand technique is amazing. I'm mesmerized.
Thank you!!
I love how clear you play every note! Beautiful
Thank you very much!!!
You're and animal. Excellent job!
Thank you!!😄🎸
Me: What key signature?
Jazz players: Yes
3
Free Jazz Player: no
There are only 3 Keys In this masterpiece.
Just Eb, G, B
only 3 keys but it change every bar
Holy hell, how is this even possible? Amazing!
Thank you!!👍🎸🙏
Iron man in an alternate universe.
Scottie Productions jazz man
Or ice Poseidon if he had talent
I Feel Like Yeezus That reference won’t be understood by most people here.
Damn now I cannot unsee this
I am Iron Man, one shot, yeah, jazz hands.
Superb articulation....🙏...perfectly syncopated 🤘🙏❤️
Thank you!!!🎸👍🏻
I love your playing on this.
I really like the chromatic thing that starts around 2:03.
Thank you!!!!
I don't have any comment for this amazing thing I've just seen. Directly subscribed!
Thank you!!👍🏻🎸🙏
I feel like if I could do this I would do nothing but it all day
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Awesome musicianship.
Thank you!!
Incrível. Abraços do Brasil.
Thank you!!
Excellent !!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you!!
He payed for that fretboard, might as well god damn use it!
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Exelent saludos.desde Guatemala city
Thank you!!
Been listening over and again. Your chords are CLEAN, you obviously love the theme, you obviously love Coltrane...
Thank you very much Bill!!!👍🏻🎸
Wow - that's amazing!
Thank you!
I need a drink .... then i'll play Giant Keys in all 12 Steps....
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Un mostro, complimenti davvero , tanta roba
Ti ringrazio!
Wow I just got back into studying this tune, you really played the changes my approach is just D mixolydian screw everything else 😂
😆 hello Daniel, D mixolidian is not enough😆 ...... To learn these changes you must first slow down the time. I advise you to start using the pattern that Coltrane uses, for each chord 1 2 3 5, changing only the third, major or minor depending on the chord. Then you have to build patterns for the first section. If I have enough requests I can upload a video lesson "giant steps for beginners". Ask me if you need it.
@@morenoviglione definitely needed! Would be a big help my friend thank you!
@@morenoviglione yeah for sure upload it please. I finally got back into jazz. Ive been working on this and oleo. I cant think quick enough with the key changes going from B-G-Eflat, etc.
@@dimpstyler6142 Hi, as soon as I will do a very simple video, I will try to go in order of difficulty, from the easiest to the most advanced.
@@morenoviglione Awesome! Looking forward to it!
Amazing player
Thank you!!!
How about a little Enter Sandman?
Just kidding! Great tone and nice solo!
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Wowww! Nice tune!!!
Thank you!!!
Parabéns. Primeiro guitarrista que improvisa de verdade, não é cover do coltrane. Show 👏👏👏👏
Thank you Davi!!
Killin' man great job
Thank you very much!!
Crazy Diamond wasn't able to fix anything here. It's perfect!
killer queen has already touched that guitar
@@bigladbob9310 N-NANI!?
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Very Good !!!
Thank you!!
This is amazing! I just started studying this and your video has helped with getting through the changes. Thanks!
thanks Ryan! I'm glad the video was useful to you. See you soon!
@semitonotono
So beautiful!
Do you have any tips on some modes to start with when you are playing over the chords? Do you even think in terms of modes?
So amazing though
Hi Oscar, if you want you can read in the comments below my answers to "Daniel Barry", I wrote some tricks and solutions to start improvising on giant steps. The Coltrane pattern 1 2 3 5 for each chord, the pentatonic minor scales of the sixth and third degree of each key (Eb G and B) etc. I hope you find it useful, if you have other questions you are welcome. Thank you !!
@semitonoto
Thank you!!!!
I really think you should so a video on it though. A lot of people would really like it!
Also i think very few people understand to which scale every chord belongs. For example when you say 1235 in each chord its difficult to pick a scale (other than ionian in that key center or key of the chord.
Have a nice day!
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Great job man!!, you got a new sub
Thank you very much!!
Beautiful!!! Fabulous Guitar Cover!!! Bravissimo🎸🎼🎶🎶🎶
Grazie!!🎸👍
dude. this is just insane, your brain must be a supercomputer to not only be processing the chord changes but also playing so many notes and in such an organized pattern. this is why i think musicians are on a whole different level, a different planet, it looks effortless on your part but i know it only takes hours and hours and days and weeks of practice ans analysis
Hi, excellent analysis, it's true, aptitude is not enough, it takes years of study and dedication. Thanks a lot!!
Incredible. 😮👆🏻
Thank you!!!
Absolutely destroyed Giant Steps!! Killer dude!
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I just learned the main lick of my favorite things on guitar and this appears in my feed
Just after learning the killing in the name intro
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Your skill is awesome. Don't stop uploading new content, please.
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that was beautiful
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If he a guitar hero character that finger would be on fire because of all that licks
Thanks!!!
BEAUTIFUL
Thank you!!!
This is the song I put on when everything goes wrong in my life but im still down to dance a bit
Sometimes I too
Great playing, this is it, enjoying of playing, ideas of Coltrane?but the touch of playing is great!
Thank you!!!🎸
Would love a tutorial video explaining yr approach!!
Yes I will
exemplary!... Bravo Moreno.
Thank you!!!
Thank you!!
1:12 that Charlie Parker quote though
Maybe....
Thank you
Killing, man! Bravissimo! Chops for days!
Thank you!!!
Can you give us explanation on how do you outline those extreme chord changes and tips to improvise on them?
Hi, if you read in the comments I have given many explanations. I know they are many answers. But with a little patience you can find some tricks.
holy crap i didnt even know this was humanly possible, but now im inspired by your skill and will try to tackle this piece. thank you.
Thank you!🎸👍🏻
Jazz: Every note is the right note. 😂
But no seriously that’s some real awesome skill there especially during the more technical parts. I’m more of a neoclassical Metal guy but I can get behind some good jazz.
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so clean and flawless your tone is amazing as well.
Thank you!!
Why is TH-cam recommending me all this giant step videos now
Leo Montano same
Same here
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Like, just, wow.
Thank you!!