Lets go Brock!!!!! Big fan!! Yeah, we will lose against Clemson but if we play a two TE set and run RPO off of it and take the air out the ball like Jimbo used to do then we can keep it somewhat close going into thr fourth. GO NOLES!!!!!! FBA/B1
Just find a mobile QB like all the ones we face every year and you would be surprised how fast we can turn it around. It's not the only position that needs upgrading but it is the QB who can turn 2-10 into 5-7 this year. Of course how can we find a QB mid year?? I think we may have one with the scout team QB. I hear he moves the ball vs. the defense pretty easily. Look at Miami now that it has Cam Ward vs. previous years.
Norvell has to fire his entire coaching staff. He has to change the current narrative that FSU can’t recruit and can’t develop players. He MUST hire an offensive coordinator, and an offensive line coach first and foremost.
Idk bout others but I’m very hopeful for Brock. He’s got a solid arm, capable runner n has that moxie. No he’s not throwing to a good receiver unit, but I bet they’ll perform better with a better QB as well. Give Brock his due time to develop n we’ll be in good shape. Not likely to matter this year but I believe Brock can be a winning Qb next year. Patience guys, we made the necessary change that most clamored for.
All this shitting on Brock is ridiculous, its the people AROUND him letting him down. Look at the OL, the Wrs, the playcalling.. We dont know how good he can be until thr line starts blocking and the freaking recievers start hanging on to the ball...especially on 3rd down. If Im wrong about Brock, then Ill be the first to say he should transfer. If Im right a lot of people still won't give him his props. And Kam Davis needs to be a little smaller. FBA/B1
Idk bout others but I’m very hopeful for Brock. He’s got a solid arm, capable runner n has that moxie. No he’s not throwing to a good receiver unit, but I bet they’ll perform better with a better QB as well. Give Brock his due time to develop n we’ll be in good shape. Not likely to matter this year but I believe Brock can be a winning Qb next year. Patience guys, we made the necessary change that most clamored for. Brock was a 4* dude
@@djferg4669 I agree with you! I just wish his first game of the season wasn’t against Clemson. I wish, he would have started at least after Boston College game
Spend the time and effort recruiting/developing/portal in the trenches (both sides of the ball). Football starts in the trenches. A good O line makes an average QB and/back look great and we have young talent at both those positions. The D line needs an overhaul and of course backers are a need. It’s like building a house. Start with a strong foundation and the trenches are the foundation so spend the money there.
A proven professional GM would solve every problem every poster has with this team. The BOT should immediately put the word out that we are hiring a GM. Build a list and select the best applicant. It appears there's too many irons stirring the pot. Its time we hire someone who can reign in cluster and build some stability in the program. If coaches aren't measuring up , send them packing. If collectives and boosters are getting in the way, put them in their place their place. The organization of this administration is dysfunctional at best. You will NOT get a team under control until the people running the show are all rowing in the same direction.
First caller, AMEN! Atkins is terrible! His OL is the worst in the country. Jordan Travis made them look a Million times better than they actually were.
What I’m most concerned about is that FSU simply doesn’t have the money to compete with teams like Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Tennessee, Texas, Oregon, Michigan, just to name a few. Not to mention all the money going towards the renovation and upgrades. Plus, they’re still in the ACC. Unlike most people, I still think Mike Norvell is an excellent motivator and head coach. But, he has to fire 90-95% of his coaching staff, starting with Atkins, and the rest of the offensive coaching staff.
Can't believe any evaluation on Brock. Louisville, Georgia, SMU 4 passes when the game was decided and the team gave up and now Clemson. We need to give Brock a chance before we write him off. Look at the opportunities given. Completely unrealistic to put him in the game at these times then complain. Give him time to learn on the field.
From the outside looking in, it's much easier to see the issues FSU has. FSU fans need to see thing for what they are. 5 years into his FSU tenure, what has Mike Norvell really done? What position groups has he stacked? Outsiders like myself pointed to the lack of program development. What foundation has Norvell built in 5 years? Where is the QB development that everyone gloated over because of Jordan Travis? The hard truth is Norvell gave you 2 years of Mel Tucker who also hit big in transfer portal and parlayed that into a new contract. FSU was sold a house of cards. The administration bought into it with no foundation for the future What position group has Norvell stacked with talent for the next 2-3 years? With the horrific season FSU is having, high school recruits are going to decommit. Norvell will have a tough time convincing good transfer players to come to FSU. I don't see any way the roster improves unless FSU drops a stadium full of gold in NIL deals, which still might not be enough to convince players to come to FSU. The FSU athletic department set the football program back by giving Norvell a huge contract. There's no way they made a good decision when a year later the very same people are trying to figure out how to move on from the mistake. They got played by Jimmy Sexton and the FSU fans and admin actually believed that Norvell was a serious candidate for the Alabama job. Norvell will have the opportunity to turn things around. How he can accomplish that is beyond me because he hasn't created a foundation for his program in the 5 years he's been at FSU. FSU fans deserve better.
The whole o-line needs to turn over except mo smith and maybe D-Washington. I wanna see Lucas simmons and Bryson Estes and Julian armella with mo smith and D-Washington. D-line is not good and conditioning is not good.
2023 oline was trash just like every other year besides 2022 😐 the nerve of these jackasses to go all in on this oline this year when you NEVER had evidence to do that
Definitely think DJ was a bad decision from the transfer portal Brock should of got the start vs Memphis especially cal this is horrible mike has lost this team and locker room it’s clear to see that also there are no leaders. Let’s these younger guys play.
I honestly don’t know if you’re completely right or totally wrong lol…buuut I DO agree we should just go buy ourselves a QB coach with a PROVEN track record.
Easy dude. Brock been on the roster a year n a half now, but he missed nearly half the season last year n was unable to practice. Kro just got here. Can’t measure Tokarz by their development yet. DJ sure, but I’d bet he’s a lot less likely to develop further regardless where he went.
At what he getting paid he shouldn’t be worrying about play calling he should be focused on the team and coaches getting the right guys on the field when you getting that type of money all that hands on nonsense has to go. Last year got nothing to do with now that’s a lame excuse if he hasn’t gotten over the snub he doesn’t need to be the coach of FSU . New team new challenges new goals . 1-4 still talking about last year is insane at this point . Fire the offensive coordinator the most lacking part of this team is the offense. That means he needs to relinquish play calling duties
MN is a good G5 coach, he isnt cut out for this level of football. Hes too loyal and too nice of a guy. When its time to fire your friends...ITS TIME. Hes not going to fire Fuller because Fuller has hitched his wagon to MN and MN knows that no matter where he goes, he has a loyal staff member with him. FBA/B1
Bad take. Every position group is under performing. The wrs can't catch and their route running is terrible. Crap effort on the wrs with route technique. No qb would do well with the oline and wrs. Please, stop putting Morlock on the field. His play has been gross.
He can't catch his own passes. . He has thrown dimes in every game he's been in. Does he over throw? Of course but veteran signal callers misses throws. We have a sliver of hope with Brock to do something this season while we had NONE with DJU. FBA/B1
Terrible takes. Sorry man but you’ve had no idea what it is you’re talking about with Brock. This kid has had very little time to develop, almost no experience smh. You guys are jumping the gun n remind me of what everyone says for two years about JTrav lol. Light Clemson up? Throwing to whom? With what OL Blocking? Smfh terrible takes
FSU is a dead program and will never come back. Not only are they the worst program in the state of Florida and the ACC, but this program has no chance of becoming relevant in the near or distant future. Shut down the program permanently.
Definitely think DJ was a bad decision from the transfer portal Brock should of got the start vs Memphis especially cal this is horrible mike has lost this team and locker room it’s clear to see that also there are no leaders. Let’s these younger guys play.
Brock Glenn has always had trial by fire. Hope he’s awesome! Grateful for him no matter what!
Lets go Brock!!!!!
Big fan!!
Yeah, we will lose against Clemson but if we play a two TE set and run RPO off of it and take the air out the ball like Jimbo used to do then we can keep it somewhat close going into thr fourth.
GO NOLES!!!!!!
FBA/B1
Just find a mobile QB like all the ones we face every year and you would be surprised how fast we can turn it around. It's not the only position that needs upgrading but it is the QB who can turn 2-10 into 5-7 this year. Of course how can we find a QB mid year?? I think we may have one with the scout team QB. I hear he moves the ball vs. the defense pretty easily. Look at Miami now that it has Cam Ward vs. previous years.
Norvell has to fire his entire coaching staff. He has to change the current narrative that FSU can’t recruit and can’t develop players. He MUST hire an offensive coordinator, and an offensive line coach first and foremost.
Idk bout others but I’m very hopeful for Brock. He’s got a solid arm, capable runner n has that moxie. No he’s not throwing to a good receiver unit, but I bet they’ll perform better with a better QB as well. Give Brock his due time to develop n we’ll be in good shape. Not likely to matter this year but I believe Brock can be a winning Qb next year. Patience guys, we made the necessary change that most clamored for.
Finally! Thank you for the honest take on our QBs! Recruiting there has not been good enough
So a borderline 5 star, literally one position away, isn't good enough? Without much more NIL money they will not land 5 star players.
I think Jordan Travis was a once in a decade type of player and he could have been better had he had better QB coaching.
Mike is the one that is not responding
He will not fire Fuller...so if he refuses to fire him...do we still support this guy???????
FBA/B1
There’s no development on the OL at all
AMEN! I’ve been saying that for 2 1/2 years. Atkins gotta go!
All this shitting on Brock is ridiculous, its the people AROUND him letting him down.
Look at the OL, the Wrs, the playcalling..
We dont know how good he can be until thr line starts blocking and the freaking recievers start hanging on to the ball...especially on 3rd down.
If Im wrong about Brock, then Ill be the first to say he should transfer. If Im right a lot of people still won't give him his props.
And Kam Davis needs to be a little smaller.
FBA/B1
Seriously, the play calling has been horrible and passing on field goals when the offense struggles to score needs immediate attention and criticism
Idk bout others but I’m very hopeful for Brock. He’s got a solid arm, capable runner n has that moxie. No he’s not throwing to a good receiver unit, but I bet they’ll perform better with a better QB as well. Give Brock his due time to develop n we’ll be in good shape. Not likely to matter this year but I believe Brock can be a winning Qb next year. Patience guys, we made the necessary change that most clamored for. Brock was a 4* dude
Poor Brock getting thrown to the wolves in this game!!! I wish him the best of luck.
So did Dylan riola and he's a freshman. He has to grow up
@@djferg4669 I agree with you! I just wish his first game of the season wasn’t against Clemson. I wish, he would have started at least after Boston College game
Brock sucks FOH he had a squad last year and was a deer in headlights he’s not good Id rather see Luke K
He will never be THE guy so Mike using as foot stool
Even though it’s Clemson, Brock needs to have a fairly decent game; if not, then something is totally wrong
Do you know the OL sucks
LOL dude is NOT going to do ANYthing ...replay of Louisville ...perhaps UGA
5:40 I was told Atkins was the one calling all the plays for Norvell, was I misled?
Extremely
Internal hire of a guy that has only been OC at Charlotte should really never have happened
Trevor Jackson looks like J.Trav and has that mentality when you look at him move
Spend the time and effort recruiting/developing/portal in the trenches (both sides of the ball). Football starts in the trenches. A good O line makes an average QB and/back look great and we have young talent at both those positions. The D line needs an overhaul and of course backers are a need. It’s like building a house. Start with a strong foundation and the trenches are the foundation so spend the money there.
Let him Coach, Norvell got this
If Norvell had this, FSU wouldn't be in this situation
Do you live in Nashville? Thats where I live!!
Brock time least he can run for 3 yards if we need it😂
No where to go but up….
starting off great lol
Brock glenn will make ZERO difference ..need to get freshman in after Miami game with newer blood for 25
A proven professional GM would solve every problem every poster has with this team. The BOT should immediately put the word out that we are hiring a GM. Build a list and select the best applicant. It appears there's too many irons stirring the pot. Its time we hire someone who can reign in cluster and build some stability in the program. If coaches aren't measuring up , send them packing. If collectives and boosters are getting in the way, put them in their place their place. The organization of this administration is dysfunctional at best. You will NOT get a team under control until the people running the show are all rowing in the same direction.
First caller, AMEN! Atkins is terrible! His OL is the worst in the country. Jordan Travis made them look a Million times better than they actually were.
What I’m most concerned about is that FSU simply doesn’t have the money to compete with teams like Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Tennessee, Texas, Oregon, Michigan, just to name a few. Not to mention all the money going towards the renovation and upgrades. Plus, they’re still in the ACC.
Unlike most people, I still think Mike Norvell is an excellent motivator and head coach. But, he has to fire 90-95% of his coaching staff, starting with Atkins, and the rest of the offensive coaching staff.
Well guys hope my Tigers come out on top. There is bad juju surrounding DJU. Good luck guys. Go Clemson.
im tired of hearing a response. When are we going to hear Dominate
WeALSO HAVE A 4 STAR WALK ON. Give him a package
Can he play this season ?
That’s what I said
@@trav6718You can play up to up to 4 games and still redshirt. I wouldn't be surpised to see them all get a few reps at this point
Can't believe any evaluation on Brock. Louisville, Georgia, SMU 4 passes when the game was decided and the team gave up and now Clemson.
We need to give Brock a chance before we write him off. Look at the opportunities given. Completely unrealistic to put him in the game at these times then complain.
Give him time to learn on the field.
From the outside looking in, it's much easier to see the issues FSU has. FSU fans need to see thing for what they are. 5 years into his FSU tenure, what has Mike Norvell really done? What position groups has he stacked? Outsiders like myself pointed to the lack of program development. What foundation has Norvell built in 5 years? Where is the QB development that everyone gloated over because of Jordan Travis?
The hard truth is Norvell gave you 2 years of Mel Tucker who also hit big in transfer portal and parlayed that into a new contract. FSU was sold a house of cards. The administration bought into it with no foundation for the future What position group has Norvell stacked with talent for the next 2-3 years? With the horrific season FSU is having, high school recruits are going to decommit. Norvell will have a tough time convincing good transfer players to come to FSU. I don't see any way the roster improves unless FSU drops a stadium full of gold in NIL deals, which still might not be enough to convince players to come to FSU.
The FSU athletic department set the football program back by giving Norvell a huge contract. There's no way they made a good decision when a year later the very same people are trying to figure out how to move on from the mistake. They got played by Jimmy Sexton and the FSU fans and admin actually believed that Norvell was a serious candidate for the Alabama job.
Norvell will have the opportunity to turn things around. How he can accomplish that is beyond me because he hasn't created a foundation for his program in the 5 years he's been at FSU. FSU fans deserve better.
So how did MN go from a dumpster fire to a national champion quality team in just 4 years??
What is fsu, a training ground for sub par coaches like Fuller where they get to make bank because of their friends. Who is running this circus?
Brock played Louisville,georgia clemson
The whole o-line needs to turn over except mo smith and maybe D-Washington. I wanna see Lucas simmons and Bryson Estes and Julian armella with mo smith and D-Washington. D-line is not good and conditioning is not good.
2023 oline was trash just like every other year besides 2022 😐 the nerve of these jackasses to go all in on this oline this year when you NEVER had evidence to do that
LAWSUITS 5-- WINS 1
It’s interesting that DJ is hurt before playing Clemson. He’s regressed since last year.
He has zero leadership.
Definitely think DJ was a bad decision from the transfer portal Brock should of got the start vs Memphis especially cal this is horrible mike has lost this team and locker room it’s clear to see that also there are no leaders. Let’s these younger guys play.
Why is Tony Tokarz still on this staff? he has been absolutely awful on developing these QBs.
I honestly don’t know if you’re completely right or totally wrong lol…buuut I DO agree we should just go buy ourselves a QB coach with a PROVEN track record.
@@seminoldschool7032So he didn't develop JT? Just so you know 2 other staffs couldn't do crap with DJU either.
Easy dude. Brock been on the roster a year n a half now, but he missed nearly half the season last year n was unable to practice. Kro just got here. Can’t measure Tokarz by their development yet. DJ sure, but I’d bet he’s a lot less likely to develop further regardless where he went.
At what he getting paid he shouldn’t be worrying about play calling he should be focused on the team and coaches getting the right guys on the field when you getting that type of money all that hands on nonsense has to go. Last year got nothing to do with now that’s a lame excuse if he hasn’t gotten over the snub he doesn’t need to be the coach of FSU . New team new challenges new goals . 1-4 still talking about last year is insane at this point . Fire the offensive coordinator the most lacking part of this team is the offense. That means he needs to relinquish play calling duties
MN is a good G5 coach, he isnt cut out for this level of football. Hes too loyal and too nice of a guy.
When its time to fire your friends...ITS TIME. Hes not going to fire Fuller because Fuller has hitched his wagon to MN and MN knows that no matter where he goes, he has a loyal staff member with him.
FBA/B1
fuller needs to go
I like luke he is beter to me but they want start him
Go back to school man
I like Brock, but DJU is not the only reason why this team is struggling. You all know this!!
No he is not but his immobility is crushing the team. I'm willing to bet he doesn't even have 100 yd rushing this year
DJ is the fall guy for a terrible 2024 team. Hope nobody is expecting it to get any better with a QB change.
Bad take. Every position group is under performing. The wrs can't catch and their route running is terrible. Crap effort on the wrs with route technique. No qb would do well with the oline and wrs.
Please, stop putting Morlock on the field. His play has been gross.
@@noletrollExactly. If the wrs and tes wouldn't drop the ball constantly we would be looking at him very differently. Brock won't do aby better.
Not the best game to bring Brock in, but I'm glad DJU is out!!!!
About 5 games too late!
Yall are crazy randy shannon is the safest lol jk jk jk dont kill me I'm joking he should been gone
Atkins Fuller and Shannon suck
Can dju redshirt and come back next year?
I don't think so. I only think they get three games. I think he burned his red shirt by playing the last game
@@kingjim238524 Medical redshirt? Or is a redshirt a redshirt. Are there classifications in a redshirt?
He’s trash why do we care he needed to be benched after the Boston college game
@@Yungtalli sarcasm went over a lot of peoples head
@@anthonyguadagnino2681 sarcasm is not the place for a team that’s 1-4
Unfortunately for the fans. Brock is gonna be just as trash 🗑️. The boy isn't good
He can't catch his own passes. .
He has thrown dimes in every game he's been in. Does he over throw? Of course but veteran signal callers misses throws.
We have a sliver of hope with Brock to do something this season while we had NONE with DJU.
FBA/B1
The drops have killed thos team. It's gross.
Give me deion or jimbo fisher
I will never watch FSU again if they hire that used car salesman. DS is not a coach. Read what players leaving CU have to say about him and his bs.
Terrible takes. Sorry man but you’ve had no idea what it is you’re talking about with Brock. This kid has had very little time to develop, almost no experience smh. You guys are jumping the gun n remind me of what everyone says for two years about JTrav lol. Light Clemson up? Throwing to whom? With what OL Blocking? Smfh terrible takes
Brock Glenn is just as bad as DJU some of you delusional fans can’t handle the truth he’s not good at all rather see Luke K
How’s that? What have you seen from Brock (RS Freshman) that you think he’s as bad as DJ (Sr who’s started over 30 games) in live games?
He’s trash man
FSU is a dead program and will never come back. Not only are they the worst program in the state of Florida and the ACC, but this program has no chance of becoming relevant in the near or distant future. Shut down the program permanently.
Amateur 🤦🏽♂️
Dead Program? we just went 13-0 as conference champions last year lol.
I know a Florida fan when I see one this comment was that of a gator fan
Lol who is this crackhead Fsu is one of the best programs in all of college football
🤡🤡
Definitely think DJ was a bad decision from the transfer portal Brock should of got the start vs Memphis especially cal this is horrible mike has lost this team and locker room it’s clear to see that also there are no leaders. Let’s these younger guys play.