I actually play the Dutch and have Simon Williams' chessable course on it. He also identifies ng4 as one of the most testing replies. One recommendation is to learn the french and just play e6 on move one, going into either the Dutch or French on move two depending on what white does. The main line recommended in that course is too good not to mention here: 1. d4-f5 2. bg5 - h6 3. bh5 - g4 4. e4- nf6 5. e5- e6 and the line gets crazier after that.
I love my terrible Dutch. And on 2. Bg5 I follow Henry Edward Bird himself with 2...h6 3. Bh4 g5 as accepting challenges is the only way to grow, and prosper. Losses are not to be feared, only the avoidance of learning is.
Just finished a tournament today and beat a guy rated 250 points higher than me. He played the Dutch against my d4 opening and the Bg5 move worked like a charm! I don't think he had faced it before and it went as well as I hoped. First time someone has played the Dutch against me OTB.
Great video! I always play h4 against the dutch at some point. Glad to see it's also supported by you as well :) I think keeping the center either closed or under control helps with King-side attack if they castle short.
Very nice developing ideas. I have an OTB game upcoming and my opponent plays f5 in response to d4, c4, f4, g3 openings. Searching for ideas to crush him.
As a dutch player myself(~2150), I like it when my opponents play sidelines like Bg5. I don't know if that's true of every dutch player, but my opinion is that the "main lines" involving a light square bishop fianchetto more challenging.
I feel like sure Bg5 is good if black doesn’t know what they are doing but h6 and if bishop h5 g5 is great as well as bishop drops back then we get Nf6 with a tempo then continue dutch setup like normal and you are doing fine😊
“One of the most terrible responses to 1. d4….” Harsh, but true. I mean, it’s not as bad as the Benoni, but it’s still bad. But at least black has some attacking chances. But if you told me that every time I played a game, I would face the Dutch, I would play 1. d4 every time. I know I have an exceedingly good record against it, and I use a couple different systems. My main is just the standard c4 g3 setup. However, the system that I prefer, but also the one that’s riskier, is the Staunton Gambit. I’ve played it OTB before, even after I reached master level, and I still do well with it. I honestly don’t know why I haven’t played it more. The fact that you give up a pawn and the computer says it’s equal just goes to show how good white’s winning chances really are. It is one of the few gambits that I think is truly justified. I have always found that it is just so difficult for Dutch players to face. I really think that white has sufficient compensation for the lost material.
The line I have trouble with here is 1 d4 f5 2 Bg5 h6 3 Bh4 g5 4 e3 Bg7 5 Bg3 c5. Any suggestions? I’ve just been playing c3 but don’t seem to be getting much of an edge.
@@ChessDojo Could you, please, advise me how white can do that? d5 is protected by queen and white can’t go e4 due to f5 pawn. It seems, at first, to be a hopeless idea.
how is the dutch bad because it doesn't open develop or prepare to develop any minor pieces? couldn't the same be said about the Sicilian? Other than that good video, just kinda confused there
Sicilian you open the Queen side, so you have more flexible approach to control squares around the King, but Dutch is King side which makes it more dangerous and harder to develop due to constant attack threats on the king-side
@@frankmontez1159 oh i was looking at 3:15 (after qf3) but if it isnt just a blunder then possibly the answer is because the file being opened for whites rook is worth being down the pawn but idk,
Les analyses sont par trop superficielles ! Evidemment quand on a un parti pris cela nuit à la rigueur de l'exposé. C'est le problème de ces vidéos. Si je comprends bien la variante Hopton (qu'il ne nomme pas d'ailleurs !!!!) est donc une réfutation de la défense hollandaise. Alors jai fait un truc ce matin...vous savez quoi ??? J'ai brulé tous mes bouquins sur la défense hollandaise !!! The analyzes are too superficial! Obviously when you have a bias it harms the rigor of the presentation. This is the problem with these videos. If I understand correctly the Hopton variant (which he does not name by the way !!!!) is therefore a refutation of the Dutch defense. So I did something this morning ... you know what ??? I burned all my books on the Dutch defense !!!
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This guy is like the bob Ross of chess. Very calming
I am calling Simon Williams now
Simon plays the Classical Dutch which starts with e6. Also, Simon will never play into a Milner-Barry Gambit
Ya bg5 is one of the challenging ways white can play...if u know ur theory and have Lasker s skills u can get out of all the mess
7:48 “Arrogant” thank you for that, I needed to hear that.
I actually play the Dutch and have Simon Williams' chessable course on it. He also identifies ng4 as one of the most testing replies. One recommendation is to learn the french and just play e6 on move one, going into either the Dutch or French on move two depending on what white does. The main line recommended in that course is too good not to mention here: 1. d4-f5 2. bg5 - h6 3. bh5 - g4 4. e4- nf6 5. e5- e6 and the line gets crazier after that.
I love my terrible Dutch. And on 2. Bg5 I follow Henry Edward Bird himself with 2...h6 3. Bh4 g5 as accepting challenges is the only way to grow, and prosper. Losses are not to be feared, only the avoidance of learning is.
Just finished a tournament today and beat a guy rated 250 points higher than me. He played the Dutch against my d4 opening and the Bg5 move worked like a charm! I don't think he had faced it before and it went as well as I hoped. First time someone has played the Dutch against me OTB.
Thanks, this will definitely help me with future games against the Dutch, as a 1.d4 player.
Great video! I always play h4 against the dutch at some point. Glad to see it's also supported by you as well :) I think keeping the center either closed or under control helps with King-side attack if they castle short.
As someone from the netherlands, the title of this video was mildly concerning 😅
Stay away from bishops!
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Very nice developing ideas. I have an OTB game upcoming and my opponent plays f5 in response to d4, c4, f4, g3 openings. Searching for ideas to crush him.
Did it work.
@@kingslayersloan Yes it works. This video is really good, I still think about it
To avoid getting smashed in this line, Black has to play precisely. At 2:48, the logical-looking 4 ... Nf6 is a big mistake. Black has to play 4 ... d5, and then the Knight goes to h6 and then f7. ... As in the game Mirzoyan-Sandipan (Yerevan 2017):
1. d4 f5 2. Bg5 g6 3. e3 Bg7 4. Nc3 d5 5. h4 c6 6. Bd3 Nh6 7. Nf3 Nf7 8. Bf4 Nd7 9. h5 e5 10. dxe5 Ndxe5 11. Nxe5 Nxe5 12. Qd2 Be6 13. Ne2 Qb6 {the game is equal here}. 14. Nd4 Bf7 15. c3 Qxb2 16. Rb1 Qxd2+ 17. Kxd2 O-O-O 18. Bg5 Nxd3 19. Kxd3 Rde8 20. h6 Be5 21. f4 Bxd4 22. exd4 Re4 23. Rhe1 Rhe8 24. Kd2 b6 25. g3 R8e6 26. a3 Kb7 27. Rxe4 dxe4 28. Ke3 Ka6 29. Rb4 Ka5 30. Bd8 Rd6 31. Bc7 Rd7 32. Be5 c5 33. Rb1 Ka4 34. Rg1 Be6 35. Ra1 Kb3 36. a4 Kb2 37. Rg1 c4 38. Kd2 Rd5 39. Rc1 Bd7 40. Rc2+ Kb3 41. Rc1 Bxa4 42. Bb8 Kb2 43. Rg1 b5 0-1.
As a dutch player myself(~2150), I like it when my opponents play sidelines like Bg5. I don't know if that's true of every dutch player, but my opinion is that the "main lines" involving a light square bishop fianchetto more challenging.
every time I see g3 vs the dutch I feel like I'm back in the 1980s and start singing really bad Genesis songs
I feel like sure Bg5 is good if black doesn’t know what they are doing but h6 and if bishop h5 g5 is great as well as bishop drops back then we get Nf6 with a tempo then continue dutch setup like normal and you are doing fine😊
What do you recommend against 1.d4 e6 2.c4 f5? Can't play Bg5 there and transpose.
Play 2.e4 and use Jesse's EZ System against the French.
Thank you for this
tried it and my bishop got trapped. n1
Have to watch out for that. Did you see that part of the video where Jesse explains how to counter that?
Used this to defeat the Gill Bates bot. Thanks!!!! *edited: it was not Melon Husk.
I'm calling Mark Esserman now!
What opening are you playing?? If there is a name for it, please tell me, thanks!
True, but that's why you first play d6
5:36 - black’s position is perfectly fine lol. Probably equalized
Toronto Assault.
“One of the most terrible responses to 1. d4….”
Harsh, but true. I mean, it’s not as bad as the Benoni, but it’s still bad. But at least black has some attacking chances. But if you told me that every time I played a game, I would face the Dutch, I would play 1. d4 every time. I know I have an exceedingly good record against it, and I use a couple different systems. My main is just the standard c4 g3 setup. However, the system that I prefer, but also the one that’s riskier, is the Staunton Gambit. I’ve played it OTB before, even after I reached master level, and I still do well with it. I honestly don’t know why I haven’t played it more. The fact that you give up a pawn and the computer says it’s equal just goes to show how good white’s winning chances really are. It is one of the few gambits that I think is truly justified. I have always found that it is just so difficult for Dutch players to face. I really think that white has sufficient compensation for the lost material.
I believe in 2. g4. :D
XD
Does this work a tempo down with colors reversed?
The line I have trouble with here is 1 d4 f5 2 Bg5 h6 3 Bh4 g5 4 e3 Bg7 5 Bg3 c5. Any suggestions? I’ve just been playing c3 but don’t seem to be getting much of an edge.
What is idea behind Nc3 move? He seems doing nothing during king side attack. And we don’t push e4 anyway. Why not Nd2 as in London?
White often tries to put pressure on d5 in this structure.
@@ChessDojo Could you, please, advise me how white can do that? d5 is protected by queen and white can’t go e4 due to f5 pawn. It seems, at first, to be a hopeless idea.
The idea is to put pressure, not necessarily win the pawn. The knight can also be transferred to squares like f4 or c5
@@ChessDojo ah ok, thank you
I mean you also want to get quick castles no?
how is the dutch bad because it doesn't open develop or prepare to develop any minor pieces? couldn't the same be said about the Sicilian? Other than that good video, just kinda confused there
Sicilian you open the Queen side, so you have more flexible approach to control squares around the King, but Dutch is King side which makes it more dangerous and harder to develop due to constant attack threats on the king-side
Finally a good explanation for white. I hate getting this as white. Thanks you!!
Hi please laern how destroy old benoni with white🌹
After closing the bishop out with E3 can't the Bishop get trapped by blacks pawns? Or am I missing something?
After the bishop gets "trapped" by f4 you can then play exf4
@3:20 why doesn’t black bishop captures h pawn?
Because its defended by the rook?
@@roach6992 if bxp, rxb doesn’t qxr?
@@frankmontez1159 oh i was looking at 3:15 (after qf3) but if it isnt just a blunder then possibly the answer is because the file being opened for whites rook is worth being down the pawn but idk,
you got a nice voice
i think destroy is an exageration, dutch players that are confortable with playing the lenningrad are gonna laught at your face after seing Bg5
Les analyses sont par trop superficielles ! Evidemment quand on a un parti pris cela nuit à la rigueur de l'exposé. C'est le problème de ces vidéos. Si je comprends bien la variante Hopton (qu'il ne nomme pas d'ailleurs !!!!) est donc une réfutation de la défense hollandaise. Alors jai fait un truc ce matin...vous savez quoi ??? J'ai brulé tous mes bouquins sur la défense hollandaise !!! The analyzes are too superficial! Obviously when you have a bias it harms the rigor of the presentation. This is the problem with these videos. If I understand correctly the Hopton variant (which he does not name by the way !!!!) is therefore a refutation of the Dutch defense. So I did something this morning ... you know what ??? I burned all my books on the Dutch defense !!!
Sir this is a TH-cam video did you expect us to refute the Dutch!? 😄