They said there were 5 suspects and now 5 from that WJC team all are on mysterious leave of absence. This stuff that happens in junior hockey is disgusting and criminal and needs to stop!
At this point, man... it's looking a *lot* like the majority of these indefinite leave of absenses is the smoke to the recent news about Hockey Canada and imminent charges in London, ON. It's hard to ignore the connection to the 2018 WJC team. With regards to Dube specifically... If he was granted indefinite leave "for mental health reasons", but he instead was told to report to police, it can be accurately said the Flames went above and beyond, and not in a good way. The other teams merely stated an indefinite leave. The Flames associated it with mental health. That is not to say that one being charged with a crime cannot also experience mental health issues, just that the Flames tied it to mental health. Had it just been an indefinite leave, like the other teams, that concern/criticism wouldn't be a thing. At the end of the day, regardless of whether these five players are the same five who were told to report to London Police, I hope justice is finally served. The victim has waited six long years for this day, and has even longer to wait for a trial and a verdict. I feel like that's the most important part here.
But what if Dube told the Flames organization that it was mental health related, then should the Flames get blamed? I mean, Dube might be under a lot of mental stress right now (might be deserved if he did the crime) so that makes sense. But, that would make Dube a real pos for telling the Flames it's mental health related if he did indeed do the crime. Even if he didn't do the crime, telling the Flames it was mental health related, instead of telling them that he's getting criminally charged, already makes Dube a very untrustworthy person. If the Flames knew that Dube was getting criminally charged and still used the mental health route, then that makes the Flames organization really really stupid.
If the victim has to wait more than 6 more months for the trial then they'll be released by then as free men. Canadian law doesn't allow people to be held for more than 6 months with no trial or verdict or sentence.
@@baiqi44 If you don't think an organization knows every little detail about your criminal history when they draft you, whether it be a speeding citation or shoplifting a bottle of pop at the local convenience store, then I have a bridge to sell you! That is not to say Dube might actually have a mental health issue, but the Flames, Devils, Flyers, and Sens all knew this might become a problem for their players when they were drafted. There's a reason the other teams -- even the Swiss team -- was incredibly non-specific. But, if this is just a seriously bad coincidence with Dube, I truly hope he's getting the help he needs.
@@dj4aces And what does any of what you said have to do with my comment above? I pointed out every scenario that the Flames might've reported Dube's mental health leave and none of what you said disproves what I said above. If Dube knew he was getting criminally charged, he doesn't have a criminal record as he's not been convicted so he could lie to the Flames so how would the Flames know of this? No criminal record means the Flames would not know of an upcoming criminal charge unless the player/his agent tells the Flames. Sure, the Flames can expect an upcoming criminal charge for Dube due to what was reported for this case in 2022, but how would the Flames know it's now and not in 2 or 3 more years if Dube doesn't tell them? Companies check for criminal records all the time. If there are criminal charges, but no convictions, there will be no record of a criminal charge as anyone can be criminally charged. It doesn't mean the person did the crime so criminal charges aren't put on a person's criminal records (unless he's been convicted of something else). Flames aren't able to check for criminal charges for someone who doesn't have a criminal record.
ya woman lie all the time and until they get held accountable this will continue to happen,she should be fined $100 Million and serve life in prison for these false claims,then and only then will it stop woman from lying,as of right now they can ruin a man's life and walk away with a smile on thier faces.
@@josephdell8056 police looked into it and found no crime had taken place, this is politically motivated and nothing else, will ruin hockey which is what this is all about, trust me she lied cause she knows she will not face actions when thé truth comes to light.
@@mikemcgee3636 If you know hockey culture you know this isn't far fetched, especially if you know what goes on in the club scene as well. Even in junior A you see them build this type of ego.
I hope the math doesn’t add up to what it appears to. However, this coming to light is good for the 2018 team Canada players who were not involved. They deserve to be publicly cleared.
I think what most likely happened here is Dube found out from his lawyer that there was going to be a big break in the case is the coming days and Dube told the team he wasn't going to play because his mind was to far from the game at this point. So he left because of mental health. The other 4 players left there Teams after they were ordered to report to London, ON. The news hit the media a day after it went down.
If any or all are found guilty, I'm pretty sure the players found guilty will never see another day in the NHL again as this is pretty serious. It's also the reason why the Sens didn't want to resign Formenton. If any or all the players are not found guilty, then those found innocent will resume their hockey careers with their teams.
Good point@@baiqi44. I wonder if any other teams will cut ties with any of their players before a trial and/or verdict is made. Canucks cut ties quickly with Jake Virtanen when he was charged; even though, in the end he was found not guilty.
@@camilomoscoso8200 Actually, Philadelphia, Colorado, Calgary, Ottawa, New Jersey are all going to fold within 3 years. This is just lawyer vultures picking off whats left before those teams go under. They are terminating contracts and putting the proceeds into their own pockets. Thats why Gauthier never went to Philly. The team is about to fold. There is no stopping higher interest rates now and its going to decimate at least 10 nhl teams. The luxury of 2 teams within a province or state is over. There are way too many teams in the nhl. Even Edmonton is just basically 3-4 players and a bunch of ahlers.
@@camilomoscoso8200 Well, I think Jake Virtanen's, like Formenton's, RFA contract was up and the Nucks chose not to resign Virtanen (not only cause of that SA accusation, but also cause Virtanen was crap). If Virtanen wasn't such a crappy player, he would be back in the NHL now as he's innocent. I don't think these 4 NHL players will have their teams cut ties with them before the verdict is in (unless their contracts are up). If their contracts are up and the verdict is still not in yet, then I can see the NHL teams cutting ties with them.
So, was the SA on another player(maybe a hazing thing?) or was this a SA on a stranger in a bar? You say you were talking about this since 2022, but honestly the first I heard of any of this was a few days ago, but then I am an American, so the Canadian national team of 2018 isn't really on my radar.
I feel sorry for these players if they are not involved in the incident. If they are involved, thier professional careers may be over. If convicted they may very well be spending considerable time in prison.
Soon there will be 10 suspects, then 20 suspects, then.... A bunch of teams fold altogether. Go to your local safeway. Can't even afford a cashier any more. Look at the price of beef. Or the $200,000 F150 trucks. But hey, the nhl is still solvent right? The currency is so worthless that a bag of peanuts can't be financed soon.
when they get cleared I Hope They sue everyone involved and the woman get jail time of course that won't happen and woman will continue to make up lies knowing they will walk away without worry of being accountable,BELIEVE NO WOMAN PERIOD.,
How do you know they will cleared? I believe in innocent until proven guilty, but that doesn't mean they're innocent (nor does it mean they're guilty) as we, the public, don't have any knowledge of what really went on. However, I heard there is video evidence. There are real victims of SA and there are women who make up false accusations as well. We don't know which side of the 2 this case falls on so a statement like yours is premature and "might" be very incorrect.
@@baiqi44 police looked into it 6 years ago if a crime happend they would have filed charges, this is a political case and nothing less, women know they can file false claims without worry of being charged untill that changes women will contiue to make up stories without fear, once they are cleared she needs to be charged and put in jail for a min of 20 years.
@@mikemcgee3636 The woman did go to the police, but everything was buried by Hockey Canada (why they lost all their sponsorships and every board member was replaced) and this story resurfaced due to some investigative journalism and proceeded due to public scrutiny. Police had this buried because the case was "settled" (as rather it was a forced/coerced settlement is unknown) with Hockey Canada money. Charges look like they're going to happen now (regardless if it's 6 years later or not). Charges happen decades later in some cases so it's not about the time. Please do not assume that just cause there are cases of women accusing men of SA that it means every case is like that. There are real victims of SA and the women who make false accusations do indeed ruin it for the real victims and I think they should be charged and imprisoned for making false accusations. This might or might not be one of them. Having said all that though, there is no way the 5 players would take indefinite leaves from their teams if this wasn't serious and that charges aren't going to get laid. There seems to be video evidence and if there is, these 5 players are pretty f'd. Anyways, you shouldn't be making assumptions that this woman is making up false accusations nor should we assume that the players are automatically guilty. We can only go by whatever the outcome is going to be and at this point, we can't be making assumptions either way. Edit - like to use 2 recent examples here where we need to wait instead of jumping to conclusions either way. 1) Johnny Depp and Amber Herd - Johnny was innocent and AH made up a lot of false accusations 2) Jonathan Majors and former girlfriend - Majors was found guilty of assault on his ex-gf so now Disney/Marvel has cut all ties with him. See, 2 recent cases with 2 men being accused of assault and one was innocent whereas the other was guilty. We don't know rather these 5 hockey players are guilty or innocent as we don't have knowledge/evidence of the truth. The courts will decide that with whatever evidence they're provided with.
First time Lego hasn’t jumped to conclusions.
Without jumping to a firm conclusion, I think we can pretty clearly jump to the likely conclusion. After so many years, finally some progress.
yes she lied about it and this is just attacking white people,had they been muslim this wouldn't even make the news period end of story.
They said there were 5 suspects and now 5 from that WJC team all are on mysterious leave of absence.
This stuff that happens in junior hockey is disgusting and criminal and needs to stop!
At this point, man... it's looking a *lot* like the majority of these indefinite leave of absenses is the smoke to the recent news about Hockey Canada and imminent charges in London, ON. It's hard to ignore the connection to the 2018 WJC team.
With regards to Dube specifically... If he was granted indefinite leave "for mental health reasons", but he instead was told to report to police, it can be accurately said the Flames went above and beyond, and not in a good way. The other teams merely stated an indefinite leave. The Flames associated it with mental health. That is not to say that one being charged with a crime cannot also experience mental health issues, just that the Flames tied it to mental health. Had it just been an indefinite leave, like the other teams, that concern/criticism wouldn't be a thing.
At the end of the day, regardless of whether these five players are the same five who were told to report to London Police, I hope justice is finally served. The victim has waited six long years for this day, and has even longer to wait for a trial and a verdict. I feel like that's the most important part here.
But what if Dube told the Flames organization that it was mental health related, then should the Flames get blamed? I mean, Dube might be under a lot of mental stress right now (might be deserved if he did the crime) so that makes sense. But, that would make Dube a real pos for telling the Flames it's mental health related if he did indeed do the crime. Even if he didn't do the crime, telling the Flames it was mental health related, instead of telling them that he's getting criminally charged, already makes Dube a very untrustworthy person. If the Flames knew that Dube was getting criminally charged and still used the mental health route, then that makes the Flames organization really really stupid.
If the victim has to wait more than 6 more months for the trial then they'll be released by then as free men. Canadian law doesn't allow people to be held for more than 6 months with no trial or verdict or sentence.
@@baiqi44 If you don't think an organization knows every little detail about your criminal history when they draft you, whether it be a speeding citation or shoplifting a bottle of pop at the local convenience store, then I have a bridge to sell you! That is not to say Dube might actually have a mental health issue, but the Flames, Devils, Flyers, and Sens all knew this might become a problem for their players when they were drafted. There's a reason the other teams -- even the Swiss team -- was incredibly non-specific.
But, if this is just a seriously bad coincidence with Dube, I truly hope he's getting the help he needs.
@@dj4aces And what does any of what you said have to do with my comment above? I pointed out every scenario that the Flames might've reported Dube's mental health leave and none of what you said disproves what I said above. If Dube knew he was getting criminally charged, he doesn't have a criminal record as he's not been convicted so he could lie to the Flames so how would the Flames know of this? No criminal record means the Flames would not know of an upcoming criminal charge unless the player/his agent tells the Flames. Sure, the Flames can expect an upcoming criminal charge for Dube due to what was reported for this case in 2022, but how would the Flames know it's now and not in 2 or 3 more years if Dube doesn't tell them?
Companies check for criminal records all the time. If there are criminal charges, but no convictions, there will be no record of a criminal charge as anyone can be criminally charged. It doesn't mean the person did the crime so criminal charges aren't put on a person's criminal records (unless he's been convicted of something else). Flames aren't able to check for criminal charges for someone who doesn't have a criminal record.
NHL 24 Roster Update: Yeah…we’re just gonna remove these 5 players for now…yeah…
Where there's smoke there's usually fire
ya woman lie all the time and until they get held accountable this will continue to happen,she should be fined $100 Million and serve life in prison for these false claims,then and only then will it stop woman from lying,as of right now they can ruin a man's life and walk away with a smile on thier faces.
@@mikemcgee3636how do you know there false???
@@josephdell8056 police looked into it and found no crime had taken place, this is politically motivated and nothing else, will ruin hockey which is what this is all about, trust me she lied cause she knows she will not face actions when thé truth comes to light.
@@mikemcgee3636 If you know hockey culture you know this isn't far fetched, especially if you know what goes on in the club scene as well. Even in junior A you see them build this type of ego.
@mikemcgee3636 actually you are wrong they settled out of court
I hope the math doesn’t add up to what it appears to. However, this coming to light is good for the 2018 team Canada players who were not involved. They deserve to be publicly cleared.
Math don’t lie
Neither does the video or text messages
When he does jump, it's no more than 2 inches off the floor. (half his height)
You can feel the darkness approaching this situation
I think what most likely happened here is Dube found out from his lawyer that there was going to be a big break in the case is the coming days and Dube told the team he wasn't going to play because his mind was to far from the game at this point. So he left because of mental health. The other 4 players left there Teams after they were ordered to report to London, ON. The news hit the media a day after it went down.
This is you assuming and hoping
It will be interesting how the NHL handles this.
If any or all are found guilty, I'm pretty sure the players found guilty will never see another day in the NHL again as this is pretty serious. It's also the reason why the Sens didn't want to resign Formenton. If any or all the players are not found guilty, then those found innocent will resume their hockey careers with their teams.
@@baiqi44there going to jail man they gang raped a girl
Good point@@baiqi44. I wonder if any other teams will cut ties with any of their players before a trial and/or verdict is made. Canucks cut ties quickly with Jake Virtanen when he was charged; even though, in the end he was found not guilty.
@@camilomoscoso8200 Actually, Philadelphia, Colorado, Calgary, Ottawa, New Jersey are all going to fold within 3 years. This is just lawyer vultures picking off whats left before those teams go under. They are terminating contracts and putting the proceeds into their own pockets.
Thats why Gauthier never went to Philly. The team is about to fold. There is no stopping higher interest rates now and its going to decimate at least 10 nhl teams.
The luxury of 2 teams within a province or state is over. There are way too many teams in the nhl. Even Edmonton is just basically 3-4 players and a bunch of ahlers.
@@camilomoscoso8200 Well, I think Jake Virtanen's, like Formenton's, RFA contract was up and the Nucks chose not to resign Virtanen (not only cause of that SA accusation, but also cause Virtanen was crap). If Virtanen wasn't such a crappy player, he would be back in the NHL now as he's innocent.
I don't think these 4 NHL players will have their teams cut ties with them before the verdict is in (unless their contracts are up). If their contracts are up and the verdict is still not in yet, then I can see the NHL teams cutting ties with them.
It looks obvious ‘ all five taking absences at the same time
And when the playoffs start, the headline will be….
Leafs are absent….
What at3 you talking about leafs winning the cup!!!!!! Go leafs *o go leafs go go leafs go !!!!!!!!
Adam Foote must be proud of his son.
Leaves of absence not leave of absences
So, was the SA on another player(maybe a hazing thing?) or was this a SA on a stranger in a bar? You say you were talking about this since 2022, but honestly the first I heard of any of this was a few days ago, but then I am an American, so the Canadian national team of 2018 isn't really on my radar.
Thanks, hated the video, appreciate it .
9:55 the day you iron out this gibberish tagline is the day you get a like!
Thank god cale maker wasnt involved in this. Shame on team canada
Ahhh shooot its goin down, good for rangers poor debbies need every point
We still have a better future then you
I feel sorry for these players if they are not involved in the incident. If they are involved, thier professional careers may be over. If convicted they may very well be spending considerable time in prison.
Soon there will be 10 suspects, then 20 suspects, then....
A bunch of teams fold altogether.
Go to your local safeway. Can't even afford a cashier any more. Look at the price of beef. Or the $200,000 F150 trucks. But hey, the nhl is still solvent right?
The currency is so worthless that a bag of peanuts can't be financed soon.
What are you on about? Maybe you should go and get a job.
@@aceshighnick he’s not wrong there’s 5 people arrested 8 in the room maybe more these kids will crack more will be rocked I’m guess batherson is next
The Calgary Flames need to address their obfuscation of the Dube leave
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Nhl is bankrupt. I predict more nhl players will have "leave of absence" every week. What are you going to say then?
What you taking about
@@TheDreadknoxx The currency is worthless. Duh.
@@hungrylion8703folks like you should be moved to a different planet…
when they get cleared I Hope They sue everyone involved and the woman get jail time of course that won't happen and woman will continue to make up lies knowing they will walk away without worry of being accountable,BELIEVE NO WOMAN PERIOD.,
I think you’re the problem 🤔
Bro what????
How do you know they will cleared? I believe in innocent until proven guilty, but that doesn't mean they're innocent (nor does it mean they're guilty) as we, the public, don't have any knowledge of what really went on. However, I heard there is video evidence. There are real victims of SA and there are women who make up false accusations as well. We don't know which side of the 2 this case falls on so a statement like yours is premature and "might" be very incorrect.
@@baiqi44 police looked into it 6 years ago if a crime happend they would have filed charges, this is a political case and nothing less, women know they can file false claims without worry of being charged untill that changes women will contiue to make up stories without fear, once they are cleared she needs to be charged and put in jail for a min of 20 years.
@@mikemcgee3636 The woman did go to the police, but everything was buried by Hockey Canada (why they lost all their sponsorships and every board member was replaced) and this story resurfaced due to some investigative journalism and proceeded due to public scrutiny. Police had this buried because the case was "settled" (as rather it was a forced/coerced settlement is unknown) with Hockey Canada money.
Charges look like they're going to happen now (regardless if it's 6 years later or not). Charges happen decades later in some cases so it's not about the time. Please do not assume that just cause there are cases of women accusing men of SA that it means every case is like that. There are real victims of SA and the women who make false accusations do indeed ruin it for the real victims and I think they should be charged and imprisoned for making false accusations. This might or might not be one of them.
Having said all that though, there is no way the 5 players would take indefinite leaves from their teams if this wasn't serious and that charges aren't going to get laid. There seems to be video evidence and if there is, these 5 players are pretty f'd. Anyways, you shouldn't be making assumptions that this woman is making up false accusations nor should we assume that the players are automatically guilty. We can only go by whatever the outcome is going to be and at this point, we can't be making assumptions either way.
Edit - like to use 2 recent examples here where we need to wait instead of jumping to conclusions either way.
1) Johnny Depp and Amber Herd - Johnny was innocent and AH made up a lot of false accusations
2) Jonathan Majors and former girlfriend - Majors was found guilty of assault on his ex-gf so now Disney/Marvel has cut all ties with him.
See, 2 recent cases with 2 men being accused of assault and one was innocent whereas the other was guilty. We don't know rather these 5 hockey players are guilty or innocent as we don't have knowledge/evidence of the truth. The courts will decide that with whatever evidence they're provided with.