@@FixinCat yeah I get the guys plugging the intake to starve it of air. But the other idiots/non-essential people that ran over just to stick their faces in front of a run away diesel are just asking for a Darwin award.
Maybe if the rings weren’t so loose that it need starter fluid to get going it wouldn’t have started sucking engine oil. Also…a simple intake valve to shut of the air, problem solved.
You couldn’t have gotten me anywhere within a thousand feet of that thing. I was waiting for the rotating assembly to exit the party in catastrophic fashion. 🤣🤣
@@davidwagner8776 well the engine could have scattered and killed everyone trying to snuff it out. The crank rods pistons could have done catastrophic damage at 10,000 rpm runaway. Now a simple gasket failure was probably the culprit in that situation. Good luck at building one of that status and not have anything go wrong.
I’ve personally seen a few diesel engines self destruct while running out of control & it’s alway a sphincter puckering moment when it happens. I was pretty sure this video was gonna provoke yet another moment . Glad to see it all held together somehow. Kudos to all involved. 👍
Guardian angel was watching over those boys while they were trying to get it shut down. That engine could have turned loose at anytime and took out every guy standing there! Hats off the the engine builder! I’m sure a new safety rule about fuel dumps will be coming soon!
@@FixinCat so what do you think is fueling the “runaway” engine? The ether has already cleared the combustion cycle, water/meth hasn’t came on yet. You have to have fuel to sustain combustion, diesels don’t run on compressed air alone?
Whoa!!!! That got sketchy real quick 😬 glad to see they got it shut down before it destroyed the whole tractor, been awhile since I’ve seen one run away at the starting line, usually happens at the end of the track
A- Joy Juice is the coolest thing I've never heard of prior and I can't stop laughing!! B- ether evaporates at a meteoric pace even when internals or blocks/intakes are cool. I see where you're going with this question but unless it was such a drenching that it mixed with the oil in a turbo, I just don't see it as a primary nor even secondary cause (but I would love to be informed if I'm incorrect!!). As a V Vet & Mechanic's son, tractor pulls were a staple of early 80's youth. Thanks for the amazing share and the moment of familial nostalgia you've provided!!
I gotta give credit to everyone at the event they didn't panic sled operator keep the sled in place which held the tractor in place pulled the kill switch snuffed out the turbos great job nobody got hurt
Needed a big Halotron fire extinguisher. That monster ate all the small one had and kept running. I am sure glad the major assemble appeared to survive. Huge expense saved. Great Job guys
Damn right. Like firstly positioning a 3/4 piece of plywood on Detroit air intakes, especially marine engines before doing any work on them. I would have the same thing on standby for one of those tractor engines. A few bucks vs a runaway engine ...
Yes, it’s called a fucking positive air shut off. The operator can flip a switch on the dash that shuts air off, kills the engine. We use them in the oil patch when we’re in sour gas location, I know you guys don’t know what sour gas is, it’s H2S. Brain up people, time to think safety
I used to work at a crane company in the engine department. We had a 12V71 Detroit on the dyno and it ran away, scattered parts everywhere... There is no way I would have been anywhere near that engine!!!! Those guy's got really lucky!
On paper that idea would've probably worked, in reality, not so much, not to mention by doing that you're potentially putting other people in danger and I'm pretty sure the last thing the driver wanted was to potentially put himself or someone else in hospital or something worse
@@bbcw88 oh i have no doubt you were joking, I'm just one of those people who read comments or anything similar to your comment and then imagine the possibilities of what could've happened if that did happen
I had a 238 Detroit run off onetime in early 70s , second day on the job, had a 45 foot trailer behind it , I pulled the hand valve down and it still pulled the loaded trailer, but it went to low idle as fast as it ran away, we had to let the trucks run all night because of the sub temperature, they said that had something to do with it.
My little 5.2 ran away on me on time while on I75. My wife thought I was playing around. I ended up slamming the brakes which broke a 5/16" hold down bolt for one of the injectors. It started sucking oil from the hole where the injector was missing and the runaway stopped pretty quickly. I was super lucky. I'd like to say it's given me 2 year of borrowed time since the incident
The fact that he was dumping the fire extinguisher into the turbo (and it actually had a positive effect) indicates that the air shutoff failed. It appears that they stopped it by halting the fuel flow..
That isn't how a runaway engine works. It is runaway because oil or fuel is leaking in so it just starts accelerating and sucking in more air and getting faster. The fire extinguisher basically fouled up the incoming air so badly that it could no longer fire by itself. When fixing diesels, often this is stopped by just blocking the air intake but you got to be fast.
@@user-mt4ny2zw7t Every single tractor in this class is required by rule to have a knife gate air shutoff. It didn't work, obviously. Secondly, if you understood pulling engines, you would know that a heavily modified injection pump can stick wide open (full rack travel). It's not "leaking in," it's literally being dumped in. The only way to kill that is with a properly working air knife gate OR by blocking the fuel line to the pump...although it takes some time to empty the remaining fuel in the pump.
Thank you for your insight! I don't know a lot about motors so this was very informative. What a scary thing that can happen! I'm glad he was able to act quickly.
Great work on all fronts! 👏👏👏 Curious to reasons why immediate activated shutdowns are not common place as protection for such a huge investment especially in the case of run away being a high risk? Example being a single emergency push button that triggers immediate air in and fuel blocks the driver and or remote control can trigger for faster shutdowns?
Cat D9 dozer hit a natural gas line back In like 2013 and the engine went into apeshit mode sucking gas into the turbo, about 13 minutes later one of the rods slung through the block. Was the coolest shit ever to watch all the guys scramble taking shirts off stuffing them into the air box and shit and it not working hahaha.
Oh my FREAKING GOD !!! The more of these "Runaway 's" I see, the more afraid I am of my 6.4 Powerstroke !! It's had a screwed up turbo housing for a couple years.... borrowed time ???
Its pretty unlikely on a stock or near stock engine these days, especially in a street environment. Back in the days of the 2-stroke detroits yiu mightve had to worry about it a little. But I've never seen nor heard of a modern diesel running away unless it was in some kind of competition event or on a dyno.
They make an aftermarket product for that I think it's called a guillotine. Bruce Wilson put one on his pulling tractor. If I remember right you just pull a lever and it shuts off the airflow going into the intake.
Where is the CO 2 fire extinguisher? Always have them around when fooling with diesel engines mainly the old 2 stroke Detroit’s! I have a shop full of them they can jam a rack and away you go ! I also put 1/4 turn fuel shut offs on them for this same reason !
@@beermoneypullingteam I saw that i would think every one had a fuel shut off for this or a fire . Met you guys in Louisville at the farm machinery show couple of years or so ago . years ago stone age when I messed around with a international we put a exhaust weather cap on the end of the intake and had a pin and cable to it to pull if such a thing happened the idea it would slam shut choking off the air to it never used it cant say if it would have worked or not .
I had a friend that worked on diesel trash trucks and he said they would keep a thick piece of plywood nearby to cover the intake in the case of a runaway
That would have heated up the flywheel so fast it would have flown apart. I have seen it split tractors in half. Those guys are super lucky to have done what they did and not been killed.
Why did the safety systems fail? I thought there is mechanical air shut off that should have killed the engine? If that failed, then there should be a redundant shut off valve that will cut the fuel, but at the same time open a valve to dump something like carbon dioxide or halon gas that removes the oxygen. I cringed watching this as I couldn't believe so many folks ran up near the engine, fearing it would blow. If anything, a redundant remotely controlled fire suppression system should be installed. If cost is an issue, then put in the plumbing to which a when they hook up to the sled, it is coupled to a universal suppression reservoir. I am a spectator and enjoy these events. I am willing to pay a little extra admission fee to ensure the safety of the drivers and track crew as well as the crowds. Unfortunately, a lot of people have suffered sever injuries before deploying additional safety measures that we see incorporated into the pulling rigs. Reading through the comments, this sounds like it is a well known problem, so I would hope there to be a well thought out redundant system to mitigate the risks.
That one guy was dumping a tiny can of halon into it, but it was too small of a can, not enough product in it, and not coming out of the can with enough volume. The halon is a non-combustible gas, like carbon dioxide. Does not support combustion. However, at the revs that engine was turning, there was not nearly enough of it coming out the little spray nozzle to displace other air from getting in. So, it dropped in revs a bit, but was still dragging in sufficient air (with oxygen) to not slow to a stop. That is a good indicator of just how much air engines inhale in order to breathe in. Need an awful lot of a non-combustible gas supply to snuff one going that fast. Basically, those little hand-held cans are fine for snuffing anything at bare idle, snuffing out your lighter, your campfire, or maybe a mouthy, overly-verbose co-worker with a bad case of verbal diarrhea.
Safety standards? Never pay attention to them. Why didn't the air shutoff work? Hearing protection for the people on the starting line? LARGE CO2 fire extinguishers in case the air shutoff fails? The engine builder did his job right, that's for sure.
@@fatherguidosarduchi5204 Some runaway situations are because oil is getting into the intake or past the pistons. At that point a fuel shutoff is meaningless. Only way is to physically block air intake or have the biggest CO2 extinguisher handy to dump into the intake.
Diesel trucks working in the oil patch have to have air intakes modified with a flap that can close and shut off the air to the engine to stop runaways. It might be a good idea for competitions like this as well. It's inexpensive and great insurance against accidents and expensive meltdowns.
The kill switch worked partially, you can see change in fire out the exhaust leaning it out. Lot different scenario when there’s that much air trying to move past the guletine
My friend put his coat over the intake when his engine started to run away. The engine was fine. We did have a C15 run away at the Peterbilt shop I worked at. Bent the valves etc. Interestingly enough the CAT rep was there demonstrating to the mechanic how to do something and the engine just kept revving higher and higher. It sounded like an airplane was inside the shop.
You'd think there would be lever in the cab (and another accessible to ground crew) to mechanically cutoff the air to the engine. Would be so simple and cheap to install something like that and it'd save a pile of money in the event of a runaway.
WHY do these things not have a rule forcing an inlet tract shutoff. That fixes runaway stinkers and a LOT safer than people running around like headless chooks in a panic.
@beermoneypullingteam I don't know the rules for pulling teams in the different brackets of tractor pulling but what I'm talking about is required to fitted to every diesel truck in the oil field to prevent runaways due to the engine getting enough fuel just from the air because of what is in the air in the oil fields to have the ability to run even if the fuel is shut off from the truck its completely and independently able to be used in case of a runaway it completely seals the intake preventing a runaway
Some of the officials ain't too bright standing right in front of the tractor....you just don't know what could happen. When these pulling officials are unhooking the tractor from the sled they always unhook the safety wire before the chain....that is not safe, somebody could and will lose an arm or a hand someday. You guys will say, well it's in neutral and driver has his/her hands in the air....it's a machine and the engine is running....ever heard of a malfunction.
Got to give it up to the engine builder that it stayed together and nobody got hit with shrapnel.
I agree. Sounds like it could be a Lemke Motor
@@bobshetlerxr400 yeah. I was waiting for someone to get a face full of rod cap and hot oil.
@@FixinCat yeah I get the guys plugging the intake to starve it of air. But the other idiots/non-essential people that ran over just to stick their faces in front of a run away diesel are just asking for a Darwin award.
It usually comes out the bottom so don't be near the bottom end of it
Maybe if the rings weren’t so loose that it need starter fluid to get going it wouldn’t have started sucking engine oil.
Also…a simple intake valve to shut of the air, problem solved.
You couldn’t have gotten me anywhere within a thousand feet of that thing. I was waiting for the rotating assembly to exit the party in catastrophic fashion. 🤣🤣
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Right I would of ran never seen one not go up that crazy
Not under load.
Give the engine builder a handshake for doing a great job putting it together.
Right!
yes engine builder did a great job🤷♂️🤷♂️. i would like him to build mine so this could happen to me.
@@davidwagner8776 well the engine could have scattered and killed everyone trying to snuff it out. The crank rods pistons could have done catastrophic damage at 10,000 rpm runaway. Now a simple gasket failure was probably the culprit in that situation. Good luck at building one of that status and not have anything go wrong.
I’ve personally seen a few diesel engines self destruct while running out of control & it’s alway a sphincter puckering moment when it happens. I was pretty sure this video was gonna provoke yet another moment . Glad to see it all held together somehow. Kudos to all involved. 👍
It was a close one!
Guardian angel was watching over those boys while they were trying to get it shut down. That engine could have turned loose at anytime and took out every guy standing there! Hats off the the engine builder! I’m sure a new safety rule about fuel dumps will be coming soon!
Yess
Fuel isn’t the issue with a run away.
@@FixinCat so what do you think is fueling the “runaway” engine? The ether has already cleared the combustion cycle, water/meth hasn’t came on yet. You have to have fuel to sustain combustion, diesels don’t run on compressed air alone?
Why would your Guardian angel just shut it off or prevent it from running away to begin with?
@@sckyfarmer8909 crankcase oil?
It ate that fire extinguisher and then got angry about it 😂😂
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Yes it seems that fire extinguisher just pissed it off
Whoa!!!! That got sketchy real quick 😬 glad to see they got it shut down before it destroyed the whole tractor, been awhile since I’ve seen one run away at the starting line, usually happens at the end of the track
yep cause the turbo usually lets go at the end of the track, since this wasnt a charger failure already makes it pretty rare
Just a opinion but does anyone think that you can get too many things saturated with the joy juice starting them,
@@petiecoe5294 no
@@petiecoe5294
I was thinking the very same thing....
A- Joy Juice is the coolest thing I've never heard of prior and I can't stop laughing!!
B- ether evaporates at a meteoric pace even when internals or blocks/intakes are cool. I see where you're going with this question but unless it was such a drenching that it mixed with the oil in a turbo, I just don't see it as a primary nor even secondary cause (but I would love to be informed if I'm incorrect!!).
As a V Vet & Mechanic's son, tractor pulls were a staple of early 80's youth.
Thanks for the amazing share and the moment of familial nostalgia you've provided!!
That diesel was pissed that they force fed it ether. So, it decided to eat itself. I, for one, don't blame it one bit. I'd be pissed too.
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Underrated comment.
I gotta give credit to everyone at the event they didn't panic sled operator keep the sled in place which held the tractor in place pulled the kill switch snuffed out the turbos great job nobody got hurt
Did you watch the video? The driver put the tractor back in neutral and the kill switch didn’t work. I had to manually close the guillotine.
@@belllpatrick yeah I did either way everyone did what they were supposed to do
@@belllpatrick I thought the guillotine was remotely controlled from the dash on them to shut them off in a emergency
Met these guy's a little bit ago actually! Theyre really nice people
@@missourimail5606 of course you did
@@missourimail5606 Almost all of the folks in the pulling circuit are good people👊🏼
@@ronlefty That is a stupid comment, if I have ever read a stupid comment!
Sounded great while melting down. The engine was built right for certain.
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can we say... balls of steel!
OH yeaahhhh
Nothing runs away like a Deere! lol
@@wreckum56 that's ha ha funny!
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Needed a big Halotron fire extinguisher. That monster ate all the small one had and kept running. I am sure glad the major assemble appeared to survive. Huge expense saved. Great Job guys
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Halon will support combustion and the engine will pump it out the exhaust. Co2 will displace the oxygen and stop the combustion.
@@ROBERTMURET try 100 lbs of HCFC-123. Guarantee you it won’t run long. It will not support combustion.
Sometimes it pays to have a back-up method ready for shutting the air off, like a piece of wood to cover up the intake.
That’s a great idea
Damn right.
Like firstly positioning a 3/4 piece of plywood on Detroit air intakes, especially marine engines before doing any work on them.
I would have the same thing on standby for one of those tractor engines. A few bucks vs a runaway engine ...
Yes, it’s called a fucking positive air shut off. The operator can flip a switch on the dash that shuts air off, kills the engine. We use them in the oil patch when we’re in sour gas location, I know you guys don’t know what sour gas is, it’s H2S.
Brain up people, time to think safety
@@beermoneypullingteam
No, it isn’t.
Look up positive air shut off for diesel engines
I used to work in the oilfields and those emergency shut-off systems were on everything. Rarely did any ever get maintained or worked though.
I used to work at a crane company in the engine department.
We had a 12V71 Detroit on the dyno and it ran away, scattered parts everywhere...
There is no way I would have been anywhere near that engine!!!!
Those guy's got really lucky!
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Nothing runs like a dear. That one almost ran to the moon.
@@0159ralph bro I waiting for cast iron and pistons blowing everywhere.Ohh yea u accurately seen a engine blow for sure if she came loose .
Lmao 😂
Right!
Dude should’ve made his pull, probably would’ve been his best yet. 😂🤣
On paper that idea would've probably worked, in reality, not so much, not to mention by doing that you're potentially putting other people in danger and I'm pretty sure the last thing the driver wanted was to potentially put himself or someone else in hospital or something worse
I was just kidding around. They probably had red flags out immediately anyways.
@@bbcw88 oh i have no doubt you were joking, I'm just one of those people who read comments or anything similar to your comment and then imagine the possibilities of what could've happened if that did happen
Gm 2 strokes had this well covered with the air shutdown flap :):)
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@@vicbittertoo pullers have either an air or fuel shit off
@@timmebruer5205 Shit?
I had a 238 Detroit run off onetime in early 70s , second day on the job, had a 45 foot trailer behind it , I pulled the hand valve down and it still pulled the loaded trailer, but it went to low idle as fast as it ran away, we had to let the trucks run all night because of the sub temperature, they said that had something to do with it.
@@MegaRiffraff Trolly break.
That was a great idea using the fire extinguisher to try to choke the engine. If it had been a bigger one, it probably would've worked.
thats all you can do starve it of oxygen
if the turbo has no air cleaner
next throw a piece of cloth in
slows turbo starves of air
Have had trucks runaway with themselves and diesel run backwards... scary stuff trying to get em shut down without detonation
Yeah its some scary stuff!
From an old retired truck mechanic,diesels over speed mechanics runaway. Have seen it several times.
it does happen
Shoulda popped the clutch and pulled it out of the park!
Tractors don't have park, but I see what you are saying.
Those guys have some serious balls to go sticking their bodies in there next to the engine like that.
yes they do lol it was close
I guess it didn’t have a 3- way dump valve
Almost had a final destination moment, I wanna see that engine on the tear down
Right!
My little 5.2 ran away on me on time while on I75. My wife thought I was playing around. I ended up slamming the brakes which broke a 5/16" hold down bolt for one of the injectors. It started sucking oil from the hole where the injector was missing and the runaway stopped pretty quickly. I was super lucky. I'd like to say it's given me 2 year of borrowed time since the incident
glad you are ok
"brakes"
The fact that he was dumping the fire extinguisher into the turbo (and it actually had a positive effect) indicates that the air shutoff failed. It appears that they stopped it by halting the fuel flow..
That isn't how a runaway engine works. It is runaway because oil or fuel is leaking in so it just starts accelerating and sucking in more air and getting faster. The fire extinguisher basically fouled up the incoming air so badly that it could no longer fire by itself. When fixing diesels, often this is stopped by just blocking the air intake but you got to be fast.
@@user-mt4ny2zw7t Every single tractor in this class is required by rule to have a knife gate air shutoff. It didn't work, obviously. Secondly, if you understood pulling engines, you would know that a heavily modified injection pump can stick wide open (full rack travel). It's not "leaking in," it's literally being dumped in. The only way to kill that is with a properly working air knife gate OR by blocking the fuel line to the pump...although it takes some time to empty the remaining fuel in the pump.
Thank you for your insight! I don't know a lot about motors so this was very informative. What a scary thing that can happen! I'm glad he was able to act quickly.
Great work on all fronts! 👏👏👏
Curious to reasons why immediate activated shutdowns are not common place as protection for such a huge investment especially in the case of run away being a high risk? Example being a single emergency push button that triggers immediate air in and fuel blocks the driver and or remote control can trigger for faster shutdowns?
It’s a great question, and it is something to think about.
@@beermoneypullingteam silly bugers should have thought of that
one good thing they now know how long it will run full tilt
Would have loved to see the dyno numbers of that runaway. 1800 horsepower shooting piston rings and oil seals out of the stack lol
It would have been interesting to see!
Cat D9 dozer hit a natural gas line back In like 2013 and the engine went into apeshit mode sucking gas into the turbo, about 13 minutes later one of the rods slung through the block. Was the coolest shit ever to watch all the guys scramble taking shirts off stuffing them into the air box and shit and it not working hahaha.
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Those guys must have really loved that motor to risk their lives for it..
they are tough lol
Good job of saving it fellas 👍
Thankful for them❤️
Oh my FREAKING GOD !!! The more of these "Runaway 's" I see, the more afraid I am of my 6.4 Powerstroke !! It's had a screwed up turbo housing for a couple years.... borrowed time ???
Its pretty unlikely on a stock or near stock engine these days, especially in a street environment. Back in the days of the 2-stroke detroits yiu mightve had to worry about it a little. But I've never seen nor heard of a modern diesel running away unless it was in some kind of competition event or on a dyno.
Get Gasoline next time
Experienced a run away once.. terrifying next to what you just built. Expensive if it scatters before air or fuel shut off.
True!
They make an aftermarket product for that I think it's called a guillotine. Bruce Wilson put one on his pulling tractor. If I remember right you just pull a lever and it shuts off the airflow going into the intake.
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The diesel powered NC-8 mobile generators had an emergency shutoff that blocked the air intake. This should be required with the tractor pulls.
Lots of updates being made daily
Where is the CO 2 fire extinguisher? Always have them around when fooling with diesel engines mainly the old 2 stroke Detroit’s! I have a shop full of them they can jam a rack and away you go ! I also put 1/4 turn fuel shut offs on them for this same reason !
they tried everything they could
@@beermoneypullingteam I saw that i would think every one had a fuel shut off for this or a fire . Met you guys in Louisville at the farm machinery show couple of years or so ago . years ago stone age when I messed around with a international we put a exhaust weather cap on the end of the intake and had a pin and cable to it to pull if such a thing happened the idea it would slam shut choking off the air to it never used it cant say if it would have worked or not .
Why do they idle so rough, new to this, very cool 😳
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@@beermoneypullingteam no answer cheap vid
The driver should have a fuel shut off or an air intake shut off system.
they do just didnt work
@@beermoneypullingteam how stupid
spend all that money
just to lose and life for a couple of bucks
silly bloody yanks
clueless. Did you have a safety meeting before the start?
Absolutely
@@beermoneypullingteam wasn't safely thought thru
With that kind of runaway you'd have thought it was a driptroit diesel 😂
I had a friend that worked on diesel trash trucks and he said they would keep a thick piece of plywood nearby to cover the intake in the case of a runaway
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@@beermoneypullingteam You're welcome
Why didn't he ease out on the clutch, to put a load on the engine?
To try to kill it even?
Just asking
That would have heated up the flywheel so fast it would have flown apart. I have seen it split tractors in half. Those guys are super lucky to have done what they did and not been killed.
Normally that would work but this engine is probably 2000+HP, and that's hard to stop.
@@BenjaminEsposti no oxygen
no go
simple
What were they spraying in there while they were trying to cut it off?
They sprayed stop fire
@@beermoneypullingteam timid non helpful answer
seems like your way of useless answers
Sure hot oil with pieces of parts ripping thru your body sucks,,but the dang Headaches from the Noise kills me!!✌🏼
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Wow! Didn’t know, now I do! That’s scary bleep. Kudos to everyone involved. Nobody hurt
Thankfully!
Why did the safety systems fail? I thought there is mechanical air shut off that should have killed the engine?
If that failed, then there should be a redundant shut off valve that will cut the fuel, but at the same time open a valve to dump something like carbon dioxide or halon gas that removes the oxygen.
I cringed watching this as I couldn't believe so many folks ran up near the engine, fearing it would blow.
If anything, a redundant remotely controlled fire suppression system should be installed. If cost is an issue, then put in the plumbing to which a when they hook up to the sled, it is coupled to a universal suppression reservoir.
I am a spectator and enjoy these events. I am willing to pay a little extra admission fee to ensure the safety of the drivers and track crew as well as the crowds. Unfortunately, a lot of people have suffered sever injuries before deploying additional safety measures that we see incorporated into the pulling rigs. Reading through the comments, this sounds like it is a well known problem, so I would hope there to be a well thought out redundant system to mitigate the risks.
That one guy was dumping a tiny can of halon into it, but it was too small of a can, not enough product in it, and not coming out of the can with enough volume. The halon is a non-combustible gas, like carbon dioxide. Does not support combustion. However, at the revs that engine was turning, there was not nearly enough of it coming out the little spray nozzle to displace other air from getting in. So, it dropped in revs a bit, but was still dragging in sufficient air (with oxygen) to not slow to a stop. That is a good indicator of just how much air engines inhale in order to breathe in. Need an awful lot of a non-combustible gas supply to snuff one going that fast. Basically, those little hand-held cans are fine for snuffing anything at bare idle, snuffing out your lighter, your campfire, or maybe a mouthy, overly-verbose co-worker with a bad case of verbal diarrhea.
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I can not believe that didn't come apart! And they did have someone looking over them as they tried to get it shut down. Wow!
That's luck right there!
Well , I've always heard nothing runs like a Deere.
you heard it right
JD 4640 was one of one of my favorite tractors. Why couldn't he shut off the fuel?
They shut everything they could but it wouldn’t shut down
Rip 200k engine and turbo
its fine
The motor wasn’t destroyed
now they know what it will stand uo too
Love the way the flag man still holding his flag, . Most of the time there's not enough time to get it off it comes apart quickly
Crazy runaway
Why do they not put a rig saver on them? To anyone who isn’t a trucker it’s a switch you can hit that closes a valve to cut off air to the engine
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Safety standards? Never pay attention to them. Why didn't the air shutoff work? Hearing protection for the people on the starting line? LARGE CO2 fire extinguishers in case the air shutoff fails? The engine builder did his job right, that's for sure.
not sure why it failed but they did get it shut down so thats all that matters lol
Don’t see any hearing protection on some of those guys - I’ll bet they say “huh?” a lot more after this day than before.
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Got to install a fuel shut off valve to shut the engine down. Luckily no one got hurt.
Yes! Thankfully no one was hurt
@@fatherguidosarduchi5204 Some runaway situations are because oil is getting into the intake or past the pistons. At that point a fuel shutoff is meaningless. Only way is to physically block air intake or have the biggest CO2 extinguisher handy to dump into the intake.
That old banger sounded rough before the runaway, great job done by the mechanic’s to stop it. Could have been a lot worse so well done.
Always grateful
You'd think there be a fuel shutoff for situations like this.
there was but it did not work
@beermoneypullingteam
Aren't the fuel shutoffs manual?
Diesel trucks working in the oil patch have to have air intakes modified with a flap that can close and shut off the air to the engine to stop runaways. It might be a good idea for competitions like this as well. It's inexpensive and great insurance against accidents and expensive meltdowns.
they used all the safety it had
That confetti coming out the exhaust was molten pistons. 🎉🎉🎉🎉
We love to see it1
That's the reason why the old trucks had a mirror on the hood. If you see flames, back out of it. Nowadays, just watch the pyrometer.🤔
The guy in the hat was seriously way calm opening up that panel.
Sure was!
That's so crazy that didn't blow up and everyone kept their cool. That was a bad ass mechanic that built that.
These are trained professionals that are just amazing at what they do.
Now that's a John Deere commercial!
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Wouldn't find me standing that close to a run away. Could be burning its own oil.
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Why no positive air shutdown?
Not sure
WOW! That could have been worse! (Ka-boom!) 😳
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Was the kill switch not checked at tech inspection?
The kill switch worked partially, you can see change in fire out the exhaust leaning it out. Lot different scenario when there’s that much air trying to move past the guletine
I know an easy stop is to cover the air inlet but can’t you also rip the gas hose off??
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Wish all diesels would “run away” 😆🤣
Big block guy here for life !
We love to see it!
My friend put his coat over the intake when his engine started to run away. The engine was fine. We did have a C15 run away at the Peterbilt shop I worked at. Bent the valves etc. Interestingly enough the CAT rep was there demonstrating to the mechanic how to do something and the engine just kept revving higher and higher. It sounded like an airplane was inside the shop.
That's a scary situation!
That's a scary situation!
I'm so glad they saved it from Exploding! This could have been bad for everyone close.
Oh for sure!
Ok, you got her warmed up now
Little too warm
You'd think there would be lever in the cab (and another accessible to ground crew) to mechanically cutoff the air to the engine. Would be so simple and cheap to install something like that and it'd save a pile of money in the event of a runaway.
You'd think
Did he not have a block off plate?
what does that mean? I don't understand what you are sayin, sorry.
@beermoneypullingteam I thought they would have a plate to block the air from entering the turbo ! For emergencies like this.
It failed , he tried that after it started to run away , at least that's what his hand motions looked like he was attempting !! 😏
Great teamwork
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As it seems no one has given a definitive answer yet, at what RPM would that have been running? Thanks
they leave the starting line around 5-6 k that was a solid 7k
WHY do these things not have a rule forcing an inlet tract shutoff. That fixes runaway stinkers and a LOT safer than people running around like headless chooks in a panic.
They do. They have an air shutoff. Commonly referred to as a guillotine.
@@beermoneypullingteam seems like the safety officer or the driver didn't check any of the safety systems
They need to have a positive shut off like is required in the oil field industry
they used all the safety they could
@beermoneypullingteam I don't know the rules for pulling teams in the different brackets of tractor pulling but what I'm talking about is required to fitted to every diesel truck in the oil field to prevent runaways due to the engine getting enough fuel just from the air because of what is in the air in the oil fields to have the ability to run even if the fuel is shut off from the truck its completely and independently able to be used in case of a runaway it completely seals the intake preventing a runaway
Gettin Warmed 4 Battle
Little bit toasty
Nothing runs..away like a deere😉😉
You ain't wrong!
I would have thought they'd have something to just plug the intake.
Right?
This is why you run electric shut offs on your turbo oil line and fuel line..... also, add a co2 tank...
Good call!
Isn’t there a way to shut off the fuel supply?
It failed
yes there is
no body checked it
serve them right if it blew
men and machine
just for the sake of checking it
Seems to make more sense to have the fuel cutoff available to the person sitting in the driver's seat.
it didn't work, these guys are veteran pullers
@@beermoneypullingteam yea
how long ago did look at the shut offs
The guy closest to the diesel at least was wearing his shrapnel proof JD cap. He looked like he was trying to put the pin back in the grenade.
they tried hard
He put too much ether 😂😂
never enough haha
Good rods and balance factor on that
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Shouldn't there be a safety mechanism to shut deisel engines down in the event of runaway. Either a CO2 source or an intake blocker maybe?
It failed
@beermoneypullingteam A failure on top of a failure. Very unfortunate.
Thank God he didn't panic, letting the clutch out in gear
Right?!
Some of the officials ain't too bright standing right in front of the tractor....you just don't know what could happen. When these pulling officials are unhooking the tractor from the sled they always unhook the safety wire before the chain....that is not safe, somebody could and will lose an arm or a hand someday. You guys will say, well it's in neutral and driver has his/her hands in the air....it's a machine and the engine is running....ever heard of a malfunction.
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A real "Pissed Off' John Deere !
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Fuel cut off might be advisable....
@@Firedrake1313 it runs on its own oil.
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He should have gone for the run!!!
great point
Don’t they have a kill,switch , or fuel shut off of some kind ?
It failed
If the driver panics... You should too........
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That made me clinch up at home dang show the bearings
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All diesel engines should have an air cutoff like the two-stroke Detroit diesels.
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Nothing Runs Away Like a Deere!
Got that right!
A large chunk of change just got flushed down the toilet.
yes it did