Secrets behind the new light field tablet - The Lume Pad

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  • @ecoflex0030
    @ecoflex0030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This illustration video is GOLD. Deserves much more viewers!

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @y x thanks so much for your feedback. I appreciate it. Hopefully more people will discover this device - that's why I made the video.

  • @rubyje
    @rubyje 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for a great and informative review. You answered my questions and I can now make an informative decision.

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much for your feedback Ruby, much appreciated.

  • @michaelsiebielec5554
    @michaelsiebielec5554 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent explanation of this great product! Thanks.

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your feedback, much appreciated Michael.

  • @suikasuika4157
    @suikasuika4157 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very well made video

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much for your feedback, much appreciated.

  • @Haf1983
    @Haf1983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for this very informative video! I am thinking about getting this tablet for my father who is a major 3D enthusiast. I think I'll buy it, but I hope that the company that makes these tablets won't abandon them too fast in regards to software and firmware updates.

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks you for your feedback. I'm sure your dad is going to like this if he is a 3D enthusiast! By the way, Leia have announced a major update that is coming out this week forums.leialoft.com/t/ota-update-1-3-31-is-coming-next-week-details/1244

    • @Haf1983
      @Haf1983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ANAVision Thank you for the information about the update! I'm looking forward to it. I've ordered the tablet and it should arrive tomorrow already.

    • @LM-ch8rh
      @LM-ch8rh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Haf1983 Hi. Just wondering how you like the tablet? This looks so fascinating.

  • @mrlifted365
    @mrlifted365 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great breakdown video

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @mrlifted365 thank you for your feedback. Really appreciate it!

  • @MiltonThomasX
    @MiltonThomasX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good work

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. I appreciate your feedback.

  • @a2roland
    @a2roland 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank You!

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're welcome! Thanks for watching.

  • @prashantb421
    @prashantb421 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great review and quite educative

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Prashant, I appreciate the feedback

  • @jareds8729
    @jareds8729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    can it play sbs/ hsbs movies encoded from 3d blurays? ive been using my rokit 3d phone for glasses free/xtal vr headset. this seems like a good middle ground

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You will obviously need to rip and convert this to an SBS file. Once in SBS format it should then be possible to play like any other SBS or half SBS video.

  • @StereoPicture3D
    @StereoPicture3D ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Will you be looking at the recently released Lume Pad 2/Nubia Pad 3D? I would very much like to hear your comments on this device.

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely! working on it now.

    • @StereoPicture3D
      @StereoPicture3D ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ANAVision That's great! Looking forward to your insights.

  • @johanneshainer3460
    @johanneshainer3460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great Review!
    It was about time that someone does a proper Review of a 3D Product without bashing the Technology they don't even understand because it's not Mainstream.
    No, It's not a 3DS Screen!

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is a lot of misconceptions out there about 3D technology because it is not mainstream as you say. So I'm glad you found the video useful. Thanks for your feedback.

    • @johanneshainer3460
      @johanneshainer3460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ANAVision any Time, I am an 3d enthusiast since i can think of and love my Lume Pad to bits, had a lot of 3d Devices already but the Red Hydrogen one as a Camera and the Lume Pad as a Viewer/ Editor is the Best so far, only one Device with a wider Camera Stereo Base is what I wish for. Or one with a third or fourth camera to take full Advantage of the 16 Viewports.

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@johanneshainer3460 Great to hear your passion for 3D. I agree that a wider camera stereo base is desirable and for precisely this reason I still use my FujiFilm 3D W3 camera. I've done a recent review of this even though it is quite a dated camera now. If interested you can see the review here: th-cam.com/video/G6fteia5Lm4/w-d-xo.html. Now a device with an array of multiple cameras - yes, that would be awesome!

    • @johanneshainer3460
      @johanneshainer3460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ANAVision I absolutely agree with You that a Device with 4 Cameras would be preferable to allow a Viewpoint-Shift in every Direction by Calculation of the Inbetween Pictures. That would require either a different File Format which is compressed like the H4V, aka H264, or very High Resolutions to arrange the Views like on the Pictures used by the looking Glass. And most important a mobile Chipset or specified FPGA which can handle those BIG Data-Streams. So I guess we are stuck with Devices like the Finepix w1-3 at the Moment. I still hope that the Tech Leia has introduced gets the Broad Attention it deserves and doesn't end as a niche Product. Continental has the Sources to make that happen, as long as some big names as Tesla, Mercedes, BMW or Stellantis sell it in their Products. I am afraid the Tv Manufacturers only start to adapt that Technology if the Demand is extremely high trough a Billion Dollar Profit as Avatar was. Let's hope the Best and we get eventually a Camera that pushes the Displays to their Max Potential.

    • @johanneshainer3460
      @johanneshainer3460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ANAVision I have seen You got a Lume-Pad too, did You ever try a Red Hydrogen one? Cool Camera!

  • @thimmee.948
    @thimmee.948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks 😊

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are welcome! Thanks for watching :)

  • @tyngjim
    @tyngjim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Superb technical content! You have outro but no intro? Thanks for the very informative video!

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Intro at 0:25 in case you missed it. Hey, thanks for the feedback, much appreciated :)

  • @robertosmitho2012
    @robertosmitho2012 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video you saved me 300 bucks I forgot to say most 3d effects are of deph not much as things popping out unless they make a video where your focus is on the characters and then something off focus in the foreground shows while you're looking at the background but once you try to focus on the foreground the images look double example the rose petals falling on a SNSD LG commercial you're focus on the girl in the background petals fall and they look outside the tv but blurry when you try to focus on the petals they start looking double is like when you look at your hand close and the background looks double and then you focus on the background and your hand is double but when your hand is moving your brain put the images together and look smooth and with deph perception

  • @christianarena7112
    @christianarena7112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello, a question. Why are the views repeated 5 times if each view is illuminated by a single light bulb? o Each spotlight contains 5 directions that allow you to repeat view number 1 5 times across the entire viewing width.
    As explained, only the 4 central views should be seen and the rest towards both sides in darkness. Thanks

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've been wondering about this myself. This is a good question Christian and I'm not sure that I have the full answer. It is more or less an observation I made when analysing the display, but why this is done, or whether this is a technology limitation I'm not certain. I think ultimately this is a secret that only Leia could answer. Here are my thoughts on this though:
      > If the technology allows control over this, this may have been a deliberate decision to repeat the views in order to have people from all angles have the potential of seeing something so that this is not just a single user experience, but a multiple viewer experience.
      > However, the technology may not allow control over this. For example, comparing with lenticular technology, it does not allow control over the repeat views. There is no barrier that prevents the next repeating pattern from being viewed, thereby with lenticular technology you have no choice, the views will repeat. Perhaps the DLB (Diffractive Lightfield Backlighting) technology used here has similar properties to that of lenticular technology in that respect.

  • @esperquantic1969
    @esperquantic1969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video. Thanks.

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your feedback

  • @3DOverShare
    @3DOverShare 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was a wonderfully in depth video on this very unique display. I had an HTC Evo 3D that used the same autostereoscopic display tech as the Nintendo 3DS - it had only two views and only one sweet spot to see the stereoscopic effect properly, although it is still amazing every time I pull out my old Evo to look at its screen.
    This is an iterative step up from that earlier technology, going from two to four different views, which nobody else has revealed, so I very much appreciate that perspective (no pun intended)! That said, while their marketing folks make it sound like their "light field" is a 3D image with infinitely variable viewing angles, it's clearly not, and the 16x resolution loss comes at a pretty brutal cost. But it's still awesome tech!
    The only thing you could have done to improve this video is to release one where you used a stereoscopic capture device (perhaps a second Lume Pad) to record some stereoscopic video of the Lume Pad in 3D so that those of us that still have 3D monitors (yes, that's me, too!) could see it in its "full glory" on a 3D TH-cam video. That said, your description was so thorough that I have a full mental picture of how this will look anyhow.
    Now if my wife will only buy one for me for Christmas, then I'll be all set! :)

    • @icypirate11
      @icypirate11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can view 3D SBS on my phone by crossing my eyes on the screen. There are hardly and SBS videos of this device which sucks. I really want this for 3D content. I do own many 3D movies.
      I used to have Nvidia 3D vision for my gaming rig but I sold it and it was it was short-lived. My projector, Quest 2, and Nintendo 3DS XL are the only 3D devices I have left.

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Shadow Lynx, thanks for your feedback. I was actually thinking of making some of my videos in 3D so that you can see things more realistically. What you are saying is some confirmation of that. I will definitely consider this in the future. hope you get your Christmas gift :)

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @icypirate11, I have a 3D projector also and use it to watch 3D Blu-ray movies mainly. Would be interested to know, what is your 3D projector solution?

  • @rmbet
    @rmbet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best review I've seen on this topic!

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your feedback Robert, much appreciated.

  • @robertosmitho2012
    @robertosmitho2012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a 3d Samsung TV with active shutter glasses and the rockit 3d pro phone with lenticular screen and it's good with side by side movies at 2 hand distance from face (no glasses) reviews on that phone are made from guys who don't know about lenticular sterescopic and they try TH-cam side by side made for VR glasses and is not compatible the phone works good with 3d movies available by torrent or converted from blue-ray each side looks long using the whole vertical screen on each side then the software built-in the phone extend the images into the right aspect ratio and interlace both pictures at the same time not like the tv which does it by intervals at a fast speed , other TVs with polarized glasses like those on theaters like the LG shows both images at the same time but also interlaced vertically for one eye horizontal for the other and the glasses have 2 different angles too that can see only one age at the time ..I haven't seen those TVs but im trying to get one

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @robertsmith indeed there is lots of confusion about VR vs. SBS content out there. You are absolutely right that unfortunately some confuse the two and end up trying the wrong format with devices such as the Rockit 3D phone. As for the polarised glasses setup you mention, I have a projector setup that uses polarisers for left/right eye separation. I intend to do a video on this sometime.

  • @calstongroup
    @calstongroup 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What are these milimeters you speak of ?

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Okay, so maybe I should have quoted in inches as well :)
      At video location 22:18 I talk on the optimum distance for your eyes to be from the screen for auto-stereoscopic (3D) viewing. 8" - 16" inches or roughly a rulers length (give or take a few inches)

  • @adonisds
    @adonisds 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video. Does it work with oled displays? Does it only show 4 views and not 16 because 9f software limitations?
    I don't think they should call it a light field display because its not a varifocal display, only an auto stereoscopic one

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for your feedback. The Lume-Pad has an LCD display. You are correct about the 4 views - the 4 views are a software limitation, the hardware is capable of 16 views. Since I filmed this video, there is now software that has been written that actually takes advantage of all 16 views. It is a wallpaper and looks amazing. I have covered this in another video I recently recorded here: th-cam.com/video/GL5bqrrtnHk/w-d-xo.html
      The point you make about varifocal is an interesting one. I plan to cover the varifocal aspects in upcoming videos when I cover holograms, as true holograms are indeed both auto stereoscopic as well as varifocal.

    • @adonisds
      @adonisds 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ANAVision Thanks. Do you think the autostereoscopic layer would work with oled displays?

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adonisds From what I understand the technology uses a proprietary lighting layer that then shines through an LCD panel. So it is neither oled, nor is it a standard LCD backlight, it is something else altogether that produces this directional light. Leia refer to this as the proprietary DLB layer.

  • @kbqvist
    @kbqvist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for a very informative, well reasoned presentation!
    With a view towards possible continuation, I would be curious about how usefull the cameras and software are for creating 3-D content :-)

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your feedback. It's interesting you say that continuation should be software as that is exactly my intent for my next video. I've done a Hardware review, now comes the Software review. So watch this space :)

    • @kbqvist
      @kbqvist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ANAVision , I look forward to that!
      My interest in hearing more about the capability of the lume pad for creating 3D content is related to work I have done recently, constructing left-right stereo images from a 2D photo + it's corresponding depth maps, something that we can very easily get out of many recent smartphones.
      What I found with my 2 year old Huawei P30 Pro is that in many cases it is possible to make very nice stereo images, and as this doesn't seem to well known among people interested in stereo photography, I decide to write an article on my experience: kbqvist.wixsite.com/photoq/post/a-novel-way-to-make-stereo-photos .
      The next chapter, which I hope to finish within a couple of weeks will feature a straight comparison of photos recorded using a Fujifilm Real 3D camera, and the Huawei P30 Pro, to highlight the pros and cons of each.

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Karsten, very insightful articles, both of them. Thanks for sharing the experience.

  • @silvertube52
    @silvertube52 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are other 3D displays that use barrier parallax and work perfectly in 2D. There are tablets and cell phones (HTC Evo 3d) that easily switch between 2D and glasses free 3D display and can be used as "normal" tablets or cell phones. So at about 1:52 into the video I'm thinking you don't know what you're talking about, but later you do make an in depth report. The Lume Pad differs mostly in using 4 images rather than 2, to provide more viewing angles and providing that variable angle view in the vertical direction as well when using 16 images. I'd say the term "light field" is hyperbole, 16 points represent a very limited field of view and is many orders of magnitude less than a true holographic vogel. The Lume Pad is a trade off between resolution and viewing angles, until we get much higher resolution and faster processing the trade off is a marginal improvement. Nonetheless, I look forward to creating 16 images in Blender for viewing in my Lume Pad, even at relatively low resolution. Maybe I'll take and arrange 4, 8, or 16 photo images but at 640x400 resolution, eh... although other displays have limited "sweet spot" viewing angles, they also provide higher resolution.

  • @glennbartusch7310
    @glennbartusch7310 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also, why doesn't he compare the light field display 3-D quality or effect to, say, the 3-D effect one would see on a Visio-type 3-D television with passive glasses? Why does he not show a 3-D movie? Granted we'll only see 2-D, but at least we get to assess smoothness of parallax. Two serious omissions, imo

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting that you mention the Vizio passive-3D TV. Do you have one? That was quite a unique TV in that it didn't need active glasses. Most TV's needed active glasses so that in my mind was a step forward. The Lume-Pad takes that step even further by not needing any glasses.
      As for For 3D movies, have a look at my new video on this where I discuss the LeiaTube application: th-cam.com/video/4oOi_NZpx6k/w-d-xo.html

    • @glennbartusch7310
      @glennbartusch7310 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ANAVision this kinda ties into what I said before, and what you replied before, about tedium vs engagement vs content. What would be engaging and informative simultaneously would have been comparisons to the Lumepad and the video TV. Why? First off, assume anyone who's gonna look at a Lumepad also has 3DTV experience. Secondly, wouldn't it be awesome if we the viewer can get some sort of idea about the quality of the 3D effect by having a mental image being compared to something we already have familiarity with, such as the 3DTV? In fact, I thought such a thing would be indispensable to the video.

  • @ESSBrew
    @ESSBrew 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HTC EVO 3D had a screen just like this. Or at least very similar.

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @ESSBrew, thanks for your feedback. Did you have a HTC EVO 3D? If so what did you think of it? By the way, the technology of the Lume Pad is interestingly very different to the HTC EVO 3D in that it does not use lenticular technology but a proprietary technology that can be turned on and off.

  • @michaelpathmann
    @michaelpathmann 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So…basically a big Nintendo 3DS display?

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I guess one could say that Nitendo 3DS was one of the early early beginnings of 3D displays without glasses, but the Lume Pad uses very different technology, and also offers more lightfield views. Have to say though that the 3DS was quite cool :)

    • @nna00100
      @nna00100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ANAVision was the 3ds lenticular instead of light field?

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nna00100 yes correct, the Nintendo 3DS was lenticular.

    • @NimaZeighami
      @NimaZeighami 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nna00100 Technically the 3DS is parallax barrier. But yes, it's a different, older technology.

  • @robertosmitho2012
    @robertosmitho2012 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So the quality sucks it's a or even HD regular side by side 3d movies 1920x1080 takes the 2 images and interlaced them so each image is 1280x720 making a full HD in your brain , I Rather have the lenticular version because the effect vertically you cant see because your eyes are horizontal not vertical ..is a waste of resolution , anyways most movies available are side by side of only 2 images at 2 angles not 4

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @robertsmith you are right, there is a trade-off between resolution and views. What you gain with views is the ability to move your head and get stereo viewing over a wider angle. This has a holographic type effect in contrast to a lenticular 2 view where your viewing angle is fixed.

  • @billirvine195
    @billirvine195 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Too complicated !

  • @glennbartusch7310
    @glennbartusch7310 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some parts are agonizingly tedious, especially when discussing crosstalk. 5 minutes just to explain that some intel meant for one eye gets seen by the other, geez...

    • @ANAVision
      @ANAVision  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was wondering about whether the detail comes across as tedious or informative. I took the approach of providing more rather than less and allow viewers to skip content not interested in. Hence my use of "chapters" to skip to content of interest. Wonder what others think? Should I be shorter and brief, or continue with full content. An example of where I attempted shorter content is in this video here: th-cam.com/video/4oOi_NZpx6k/w-d-xo.html

    • @glennbartusch7310
      @glennbartusch7310 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ANAVision I don't think being more informative is the issue. The trick is to produce a video that presents the material in such a way so that the viewer is always kept at rapt attention to the screen. In such an instance, video length does not matter.
      An extreme case to illustrate the problem would be another TH-camr I replied to who was being tedious to such a profound degree that watching just minutes of the video induced intense feelings of agony, similar to being tortured. In it, he was explaining how to apply silkscreen to a wristwatch dial. What could have been an engaging presentation that ran a long time instead turned into this:
      "You should take the slotted end of the screwdriver and insert the blade axially into the head of the screw. Once the blade of the screwdriver is thus inserted, you'll want to apply a torque by means of a wrist action such that the energy from your wrist gets transferred into the head of the screw and in such a way that the screw body begins to rotate in the direction of the wrist motion. Continue with this wrist action for approximately 12 to 15 revolutions, after which time the screw body should be completely clear, or nearly completely clear, of the printing plate..."
      Most other TH-camrs, not so bent on torturing their viewers, would have merely said, "Pick up the damn screwdriver and unscrew the screw..."