@@BlackMaze Like wise, though I'm a 2d old noob... So new I can't even find how exactly to change the throttle. Everything else has been amazing to help me adapt to the game though. Big thanks for helping a fellow WT Pilot/Tanker join the ED ranks!
@@silvercat18 Kinda the same. Played this a while ago a few years but couldnt get the hang of stuff. Decided to give it another go so really a few hours in just going through the training and wanted some 'real world advice'
Started playing the game again after a 2 year break and I duplicated this setup. It has completely change the way I play. I use to be horrible at combat in the game and this made it feel so much more natural and I feel like I have so much more control.
= Misc.= (Pips) @ 6:30 Divert Power to Systems: Shift-A Divert Power to Engines: Shift-W (Warp) Divert Power to Weapons: Shift-D (Damage) Balance Power Distribution: Shift-S (reSet)
dude this video is a lifesaver, I've been trying to get into ED again but i sucked at flying, hopefully using your controls will help, i certainly understood what you were explaining more than i did the game's tutorial
I just picked up Elite Dangerous, and my first thought on playing the tutorial was: These controls are bananas! Surely there's a way to configure them to make more sense. Cheers for the video mate, your keybinds are now my wallpaper and the tutorials have been 10 times easier, next step: the actual game.
These are very close to the controls I was setting up earlier, all based around Descent controls. Glad to see someone put in the thought and work already so that I don't have to spend as much time tweaking for my comfort in the end. Great vid!
I use a joystick for the immersion. Especially since I play in VR, so having my hands on a physical joystick and thruster that somewhat matches the in game avatar just makes it feel AMAZING! ...BUT in terms of pure practicality I do agree that aiming with a mouse is probably easier than adjusting your pitch and yaw with a joystick
This video is so old but so useful if you're someone who just bought (or got gifted the game). Having roll on the mouse is a nightmare and I cannot understand why that was a default decision. I barely got through training on default binds.
I'm just transitioning today from playing on Xbox to PC. This keyboard layout makes so much more sense than the default. Thanks for sharing! And +1 for your flight skills!
Hey! I want to genuinely thank you for giving the idea about this control set up. Today - after about 350 hours of standard keyboard and mouse control usage - I have switched the controls to this FPSish set up. Didn't take long to get used to and I have never had as much fun in Elite, as I did today. I was finally able to use the PAs (effectively)! I'd thoroughly recommend anyone to switch to this set up. :)
I knew there was something wrong with the default settings, but your video took my gaming experience to the next level. To be honest, "QWE" keys + mouse is quite enough for me now. Thanks, Commander!
Interesting, I never played around much with key bindings when I started ED. I went mostly with the defaults, with a few changes. Never got to grips with it, which is perhaps why I find a HOTAS to be much nicer and easier. (But also more "realistic" when playing in VR.)
As people have stated below, its great you created your own set of macros, but for most of us it really would have helped to tell us which keys are bound and were... the keybinding in this game is huge and repeats itself everywhere so its confusing, so if we knew how you bound your keys, (the photo of your keyboard is not much help) it would be lovely for us.
Interestingly, this is in many ways similar to my Thrustmaster 3d pro stick and keyboard setup. I got yaw on x-axis for precise fire with fixed weapons, and put the roll on the twist (no accuracy required). I got lateral and vertical thrust on WASD, forward/reverse thrust on shift/control and the boost on space. Throttle is on QE and full stop on X. In combat I got the throttle preset in the blue zone 95% of the time and simply override it with full forward/reverse thrust, and the second I let go the throttle snaps back into the blue zone. I guess one advantage of my setup is that it's easier to combine roll, lateral thrust and vertical thrust all at the same time without ever moving my fingers off of my thrust keys. Of course, I can't use shift-WASD for power settings, so I do have to move my fingers to deal with power settings, which is a drawback. I never was much use with the kind of mouse control that E:D has, so the setup I worked out works brilliantly for me. It's also very comfy to fly on at all times when not in combat.
You were the one I chose to trust for my controls a year ago, and I am now going back into this game once more, using your controls setup. Thank you for this video. o7
This is SO old, but thank you so much!! This feels amazing for flying as someone who just started playing for the first time yesterday! Is there any chance you could share your entire keybinds panel? I'm still having some quirks that seem off and it might just be me not changing everything as I should.
I started playing last week and I've spent countless hours refining my KB/M setup. I have the same philosophy as you with regard to having an FPS setup so it's easy for me to see how intuitive it is. Using the Shift keys for PIPS is what I need. I've been using CTRL for crouch but will definitely look into using the C Key. Thanks for sharing the mouse setup, similar to mine, just need a few tweaks to test. I use Middle Mouse Button for Head-look, give it a try. Thanks for the Vid man, I really hope to get my space legs in this game, the CQB looks like way too much fun and I can't wait to refine my KB/M setup.
Thank you, I wondered why it was so hard to aim with default settings, I wonder why I didn’t change it in the 170+ hours since I got the game, This is grate, helps a lot, thank you!
Not playing ED anymore, but just to say this video really helped me at the time. Thanks @BlackMaze. It was even better coupled with sim racing pedals for forward throttle (bind to accelerator) and reverse throttle (bind to brake). Keeping throttle +/- 10% increment to mouse wheel, which somehow would be temporarly overwritten by pedals, but would resume to selected throttle level (usually the ideal area) when no pressure applied to pedals. And Moving vertical up/down to W/S for even more natural feeling. This setup also allowed for very easy FA off/on flight style.
Thank you soo much i was strugling in pvp tought il get used to it but this vide what poped up from nothing literaly changed the way I play Elite. Hats of to you sir. Thank you.
Man i just want to thank u! I was regretting buying the game cause i could not control my ship, it was taking me 20 minutes to kill the ship in the advanced tutorial. Instaled your confgs and killed it in 2 minutes and actually had fun. Again thank you!
I've got an X52 I bought several years ago but I end up using keyboard/mouse more because I just don't want to set it all up. 110% agree with you on the roll vs pitch on the mouse, first thing I changed when I started playing. Though I eventually moved all my pip management to the mouse. Scroll up for engines, scroll down for shields. and my mouse has 2 extra buttons so M4 for weapons and M5 for reset. Also left the thruster buttons in their default places, Q,E for laterals and R,F for verticals. A and D for roll. Also I left the throttle controls alone, W increases it at a certain rate and S decreases it. When I need to switch to backwards or back to forwards I just tap X to center the throttle then move it in the desired direction.
That's good thinking there, BlackMaze. Now that I've seen your setup, it seems very intuitive. I played with a HOTAS since my first day in the game, but since it requires me to get creative with desk space, which often is the reason I don't just jump into the game at a whim, I'll be trying your setup. Thanks! :) I just need to figure out a way to cycle through the weapon configs, and cycle between the current target's subsystems, but that's small stuff I hope :D
So I'm going to just say some reasons why joystick is better, ofc I'm talking about a full HOTAS setup and not the joystick on a controller. First of all you do not have to constantly re adjust, I can turn to a target and use roll pitch and yaw to stay on target. Ofc I'm talking fixed weapons in a fighter. I can use lateral thrusters while rotating and accelerating which is a massive advantage in combat, especially cqc where the ships are light. The difference is I can change all directions while still have full control but on keyboard your finger has to move to a new key and back, this is extra time and makes it tricky to quickly move round things. Ofc joystick is harder to learn but in my opinion once you learn how to use it, it's much easier. I've been using my HOTAS with elite since Oculus dk2 was released, may give you a clue as to why I use joystick and always have. I have VR and it's far easier to navigate buttons without your eyes on a joystick rather than a keyboard. This is ofc all opinions but it's also your opinion that keyboard is better, there is no one right way. Just to add tho. In warthunder I cannot use joystick at all, I'm rubbish at it so I have to use keyboard and mouse and I don't think keyboard and mouse is bad unless you are talking about SIM battles
While this would probably work well in CQC flying the condors and other tiny fighters that are relatively responsive to the thrusters. I would NOT recommend relying on them too much flying a Federal Corvette in a combat zone. Heavy ships aren't responsive to thrusters that much. You can't switch between forward and backward movements that fast. But yes, I do use them. I've gotten so used to my HOTAS setup in the game that maneuvering like this is not an issue. Another thing I disagree with is the aiming comparison he does between Joystick and Mouse, I rarely have to compensate that much up and down with the joystick to stay on target, with the MOUSE on the other I find I had to do that all the time. It all depends a bit on how used you are with your controls and of course the settings for sensitivity and accelerators etc you use. In the end I say it is to each their own, what you prefer. This video did not convince me M+K is better in any way, easier for most to get used to most likely. But if you have a GOOD joystick, I'm not talking cheap and unprecise sticks, you won't have any problem with the aim. If your stick drifts with 0 in dead zone, it's a shit stick. Or not calibrated, or broken. A cheap stick I do recommend for Elite is the T16000, due to the HALL effect sensors it uses. (Same as the Warthog and also has twist in the stick for yaw unlike the Warthog) If you play with no throttle or pedals with your stick, I totally recommend having thrusters set up as this guy does. Or on the numpad if you're left handed. (There are no throttles for left handed people sadly) The guy mentions another thing, freelook is hard using a mouse. Yes and no, you CAN set it to toggle on the middle muse button (You know the scroll wheel is also a button) OR there IS actually a mouse with a build in joystick! Asus Chakram. And it works in Elite without any special third party software except Asus Amory. (You need it to set the stick to analogue from just imitating the arrow keys on the keyboard) Totally recommend it. My current setup is Thrustmasters FCWS throttle paired with a VKB Gladiator NXT joystick. What I don't like with the NXT stick is that it is linear. You can clearly tell the difference on forward/back and left/right movement. Unlike the T16000 that is completely free 360 movement. In the end the T16000 is a LOT more precise while fine aiming as the NXT struggles with diagonal movement. The Warthog is the same as the T16000 as it uses the same gimball method and HALL sensors. But lacks twist functionality, meaning you can't yaw with the stick. Or roll depending what you sacrifice. I never liked Logitechs sticks they are either too slack or to unprecise. Tends to start drifting very easily too and the X56 for example requires external powered USB ports to function properly. Cheap Chinese materials and buttons. And then we have the ultra expensive overkill sticks from Virpil and VKB etc. You really need to be an enthusiast to justify those prices. So yes, in a way M+K is a lot simpler. Also a lot cheaper. But not necessary better. It's more up to the hardware and particularly the user in the end. For beginners that want a good stick especially for Elite Dangerous that won't cost you kidney, I recommend a T16000 with the FWCS throttle bundle if you can find it.
2022, game is on sale again, not wanting to spend more money but game is intimidating... this made me want to play it and know i could with my current setup. thanks man!
Very helpful, thanks! Man I had a heck of a time getting the second ship in the combat tutorial to be in front of me. The mouse movement hardly moves the ship at all; the keyboard rolls are fine but the pitching with the mouse is so painfully slow I had a hard time getting the enemy in front of me. Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I'm probably just shit.
From what I'm seeing, as long as you don't use the throttle for accelerating, you could bind everything to hotas or a controller and have even more control thanks to the sticks
For the algorithm! Thank you so much for the tips. I donxt get motion sick easily, but this game was starting to do it for me. Hopefully, I'll be able to play well now.
Dude, game changer for me too, even though this video is 4yrs old! So used to Star Citizen controls, so was hard to adapt to default settings until I saw your video (especially vertical and lateral thrust). Tired of Star Citizen not working right, so will give Elite a spin to satisfy my space sim itch. Thanks!
I just got into ED and flying is a pain in the a**. Your config looks promising and your manouvering skills are very impressive. I'm gonna test your config out
Wow that was very impressive, it would take me a millennium to reach that type of combat skill well done and great video. I'm also new to Elite Dangerous and being almost at retirement age my fingers are not as supple as they used to be , but that won't stop me from enjoying the vast universe and involvement that awaits me. I shall check out the rest of your videos and see id there's a beginners guide. I have only completed the training videos so I have a long way to go! Any tips on a very good mouse to use on Elite Dangerous any info would be much appreciated.
@@BlackMaze Do you by chance have a controls file for the current version of the game? The only information is the small keyboard picture, but that leaves me with a lot of unbound functions. I'm finding I have to remap pretty much rebind everything for it to make sense (no map button by default, really? ("mah immersion")
Found this 5 years too late! And i know that you will most likely not see this but the keyboard layout is very hard to map out with just the screenshot
LOVE!!! Thank you!!! Have ALWAYS wanted to get in this game, but I suck when using my old MS Sidewinder Pro. This reminds me so much of Freelancer - Same type of controls. Don't know why I didn't think of that considering the number of hours I put in that game.
you good sir are my hero ... or at least the savior of my fingers/hands .... this control Set is so much smoother then what I did the last whole last week of learning the game
Can't afford to get a HOTAS at the moment so this is an awesome alternative. I agreed with several comments and switched QE and AD, but overall this was much better for me. Still working on my skills, but feeling better about it!
I use your keyboard setup but my joystick is an old Force Feedback 2, which provides powered resistance, allowing for extremely accurate yaw similar to the mouse. I really like this setup because you get all the precision of m+k, but you can still use an analog stick (and all those lovely buttons). o7
Why not just upload the file for the controls so everybody can get them. For now every time i bump into something I have the feeling that i messed up the controls somehow :D
I set up ED at work and I don't have a HOTAS there. I use the x52 at home and I am starting to get good with it. At work I typically just do explore or delivery runs for cash. I"m going to have to try this set up to see how well I do and compare them. Interesting set up for sure.
I have a very similar setup. Not strictly 'FPS' though. The differences are that I use W and S for UP and DOWN; and I swapped ROLL and STRAFE. I find I use ROLL more than STRAFE, so putting them on A and D made sense to me. And the UP and DOWN movement is so important, I want it more accessible too. I currently use SHIFT and CTRL for throttle (like KSP, ha), but I can see the advantage your method of using Full Forward and Full Reverse. I'll need to play around with that. Good video and demonstration.
Came back to the game tonight after a long break and discovered all previous settings had been reset. After browsing the shitshow that is the keybinding options and getting nowhere near the control of the ship I had previously when playing, I almost quit out. Thankfully I stumbled across your video and once again balance is restored in my game :). Thank you.
@@Flyingturdless I found a link on reddit and it appears to be from BlackMaze. Flight groups appear to be on the mouse. You're welcome, I'm glad to be of help. www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/3mcc2f/here_is_my_fpsstyle_keyboard_layout_for_elite/
BlackMaze, Hopeing you will updateing this for the recent update. I find it hard to follow because of the changes made in the Keyboard setup help screens.
Damn you are good. Lol amazing control of the ship. I just started but i can’t wait to get better! Great guide! Will change my settings asap! Godspeed commander!
I just wanted to say a great big THANK YOU for this video - it's very well-presented, and incredibly helpful =D There is just *one* thing I'd suggest/ask if you get a chance - perhaps if you were to do like ... a follow-up video on this one maybe ? Could you possibly post like ... a screenshot showing your keybindings on-screen just for a few seconds so that people can take a screen grab of it ? For the longest time I misunderstood and mapped C to pitch down and space bar to pitch up rather than vertical thrust down/up as appropriate (because I'm an idiot haha), and I've gotten so used to that now that I've had to come up with an alternative to your suggested bindings (which is fine, but I'd rather have just stuck with yours from the beginning) =]] Thanks so much, and keep up the awesome work ! =D
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I'd say a combination of a simple joystick with left right twist, the obv forward backward left right pull and a keyboard. Using the joystick only for 6dof movement and maybe firing.
I love this style, the default controls are a complete mess and I couldn't figure out where to go to make it better so I kept using hotas for a while but is annoying to setup on desk. I'll install elite dangerous and give this a try later tonight.
Thanks for the video, really helped me refine my set up. Personally I feel that Elite just doesn't really take advantage of Hotas and Pedals. I much prefer keyboard and mouse for ED compared to my Warthog and Saitek Combat pedals. Especially the fact I don't have to lock my chair into my pedals which makes it easy to walk away during the drudgery of supercruise.
Thank you for creating this video! I tried your settings; probably the hardest keyboard and mouse setup I've ever tried. I'm happy that it is intuitive for you, but unfortunately, I cannot use it.
Thanks a lot for the video. If you have a spare moment, would you mind sharing your .binds file to a pastepin? I'm having trouble translating everything from your diagram into the keybind configuration menu which is organized very differently.
Glad I found this but you REALLY needed to SHOW us how you set up the keyboard because as I type this I am having a really hard time working out how to actually set up the rest of the keys. I have to look at the picture and then scour through the options looking for each one individually and that not only takes so much time but it's super annoying.
Agree with many comments - wish l had found this a lot sooner and that you went through (shown) you key bindings. I wish the game also allowed different binding as in Binding A for combat, Binding B for mining and Binding C for exploring. Thumbs up
At 13:53 he says Space Bar to go Down, but he is incorrect, I'm sure he meant to say C to go Down. And if you watch his thumb close, you will see he is pressing C to go Down. So he is using C for Vertical Down, and Space Bar is Vertical Up.
Played with it a bit and really like it but the only thing i dont like is how hard it is to manage your throttle for optimal turn time aka the blue zone
Sorry for the necro comment, but I had to say thank you for this! I just started playing this game a few weeks ago, and started with a keyboard/joystick combination. It worked well enough for trading and other non-combat activities, but I could never get the hang of it with combat. Holy moly, does this totally change the game (in a good way)! Thanks again!
So I have a proper HOTAS (X-52) and just bought the game - I've heard that you definitely need the HOTAS to enjoy the game - the problem with my desk right now is that 1) I don't reall have a lot of room for the HOTAS and 2) the height makes it uncomfortable for my hands on the stick (in a real planet the hands are way down compared to my desk height). And that's how I ended up just youtubing "Elite Dangerous mouse and keyboard" since I wanted to know if it's such a huge disadvantage to fly using just the mouse and keyboard - and I stumbled across your video. It's not long at all (you were apologizing at some point) and after more than a dozen space combat videos of ED that I've seen where people just have their stick up and try to loop their way back to the enemy's tail, you seem to use every possible tool at your disposal to not lose them from your sights - very efficient and it's all done with keyboard and mouse. Big thumbs up and thank you for taking the time for this video! :)
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This is a game changer, especially for me being a 1 week old noon to elite dangerous. So glad I came across this video!
Happy to help! :-)
@@BlackMaze Like wise, though I'm a 2d old noob... So new I can't even find how exactly to change the throttle. Everything else has been amazing to help me adapt to the game though. Big thanks for helping a fellow WT Pilot/Tanker join the ED ranks!
Still useful today, I am using this having started a few hours back.
Great setup, i knew the default setup was lame bit this video is a game changer. Quick question, how do you setup W and S the way you didi?
@@silvercat18 Kinda the same. Played this a while ago a few years but couldnt get the hang of stuff. Decided to give it another go so really a few hours in just going through the training and wanted some 'real world advice'
i discovered this 5 years later and you saved my life gg
This game... every time you have a break ... its like learning it again
don't even start. I had complex and customized controls, now I can't even move up and down, freaking frustrating
Started playing the game again after a 2 year break and I duplicated this setup. It has completely change the way I play. I use to be horrible at combat in the game and this made it feel so much more natural and I feel like I have so much more control.
= Misc.= (Pips) @ 6:30
Divert Power to Systems: Shift-A
Divert Power to Engines: Shift-W (Warp)
Divert Power to Weapons: Shift-D (Damage)
Balance Power Distribution: Shift-S (reSet)
thanks
WOAH. Pip management forcing me to take my hand off mouse or WASD to reach arrow keys is one of my biggest issues. This is incredibly useful.
I used shift+(number keys) for those, but these are so much better!
holy shit... this took me so long to figure out. thanks.
dude this video is a lifesaver, I've been trying to get into ED again but i sucked at flying, hopefully using your controls will help, i certainly understood what you were explaining more than i did the game's tutorial
Most welcome man!
I just picked up Elite Dangerous, and my first thought on playing the tutorial was: These controls are bananas! Surely there's a way to configure them to make more sense.
Cheers for the video mate, your keybinds are now my wallpaper and the tutorials have been 10 times easier, next step: the actual game.
I just bought the game and played around with the controls for an hour. Came up exactly with the same setup. I feel very satisfied now.
What will be nice if you show your Keybindings aswell in this video. so the we can know what to change exactly...
Yep, please share the controlls ingame, too. Thank you.
These are very close to the controls I was setting up earlier, all based around Descent controls. Glad to see someone put in the thought and work already so that I don't have to spend as much time tweaking for my comfort in the end. Great vid!
I use a joystick for the immersion. Especially since I play in VR, so having my hands on a physical joystick and thruster that somewhat matches the in game avatar just makes it feel AMAZING! ...BUT in terms of pure practicality I do agree that aiming with a mouse is probably easier than adjusting your pitch and yaw with a joystick
The control you have to over that ship is astounding. You inspire me. Thanks for this video
This video is so old but so useful if you're someone who just bought (or got gifted the game). Having roll on the mouse is a nightmare and I cannot understand why that was a default decision. I barely got through training on default binds.
Same here I gave up and started using a gamepad. Might have to give this control scheme a shot
I'm just transitioning today from playing on Xbox to PC. This keyboard layout makes so much more sense than the default. Thanks for sharing! And +1 for your flight skills!
Hey! I want to genuinely thank you for giving the idea about this control set up. Today - after about 350 hours of standard keyboard and mouse control usage - I have switched the controls to this FPSish set up. Didn't take long to get used to and I have never had as much fun in Elite, as I did today. I was finally able to use the PAs (effectively)!
I'd thoroughly recommend anyone to switch to this set up. :)
Excellent video. Very good that you explain in CQC what keys you are pressing during maneuvering. Going to try that out myself later today. Thanks!
i will like to see a updated video of this
ty so much man, I've been trying to configure my controls for hours, and it seems these work great!
Keep the good work!
I knew there was something wrong with the default settings, but your video took my gaming experience to the next level. To be honest, "QWE" keys + mouse is quite enough for me now. Thanks, Commander!
Love your setup. I had a real problem with interdiction but after this video it became so easy. Love the videos. Keep up the great work!
Interesting, I never played around much with key bindings when I started ED. I went mostly with the defaults, with a few changes. Never got to grips with it, which is perhaps why I find a HOTAS to be much nicer and easier. (But also more "realistic" when playing in VR.)
Even 8 years later you managed to turn me from a panicking noob into a confident pilot, just with those few simple changes to the controls.
Thank you!
Do you use this setup with Flight Assist off and is it a good setup for using FA off?
Hello, can you put the PSD again please? Thx
Very intriguing, I will have to try something like this. I've been wanting to customise my key bindings but had no idea where to begin.
As people have stated below, its great you created your own set of macros, but for most of us it really would have helped to tell us which keys are bound and were... the keybinding in this game is huge and repeats itself everywhere so its confusing, so if we knew how you bound your keys, (the photo of your keyboard is not much help) it would be lovely for us.
This seems really well thought out, going to have to try it.
Interestingly, this is in many ways similar to my Thrustmaster 3d pro stick and keyboard setup. I got yaw on x-axis for precise fire with fixed weapons, and put the roll on the twist (no accuracy required). I got lateral and vertical thrust on WASD, forward/reverse thrust on shift/control and the boost on space. Throttle is on QE and full stop on X. In combat I got the throttle preset in the blue zone 95% of the time and simply override it with full forward/reverse thrust, and the second I let go the throttle snaps back into the blue zone.
I guess one advantage of my setup is that it's easier to combine roll, lateral thrust and vertical thrust all at the same time without ever moving my fingers off of my thrust keys. Of course, I can't use shift-WASD for power settings, so I do have to move my fingers to deal with power settings, which is a drawback.
I never was much use with the kind of mouse control that E:D has, so the setup I worked out works brilliantly for me. It's also very comfy to fly on at all times when not in combat.
Sweet binding you propose here. I haven't took into account vertical thrust before. I love it. Cheers !
You were the one I chose to trust for my controls a year ago, and I am now going back into this game once more, using your controls setup. Thank you for this video. o7
You’re welcome! I’m glad it’s useful!
Great video! Pleasure to see so action space combat in Elite Dangerous with mouse and keyboard control. Thank you very much!
This is SO old, but thank you so much!! This feels amazing for flying as someone who just started playing for the first time yesterday! Is there any chance you could share your entire keybinds panel? I'm still having some quirks that seem off and it might just be me not changing everything as I should.
I started playing last week and I've spent countless hours refining my KB/M setup. I have the same philosophy as you with regard to having an FPS setup so it's easy for me to see how intuitive it is.
Using the Shift keys for PIPS is what I need. I've been using CTRL for crouch but will definitely look into using the C Key.
Thanks for sharing the mouse setup, similar to mine, just need a few tweaks to test.
I use Middle Mouse Button for Head-look, give it a try.
Thanks for the Vid man, I really hope to get my space legs in this game, the CQB looks like way too much fun and I can't wait to refine my KB/M setup.
Thank you, I wondered why it was so hard to aim with default settings, I wonder why I didn’t change it in the 170+ hours since I got the game,
This is grate, helps a lot, thank you!
Excellent guide. I'm actually doing quite well in combat after watching it.
Not playing ED anymore, but just to say this video really helped me at the time. Thanks @BlackMaze.
It was even better coupled with sim racing pedals for forward throttle (bind to accelerator) and reverse throttle (bind to brake). Keeping throttle +/- 10% increment to mouse wheel, which somehow would be temporarly overwritten by pedals, but would resume to selected throttle level (usually the ideal area) when no pressure applied to pedals.
And Moving vertical up/down to W/S for even more natural feeling.
This setup also allowed for very easy FA off/on flight style.
just wonderfull, the flight control is insane, really good i'll will try it
Thank you soo much i was strugling in pvp tought il get used to it but this vide what poped up from nothing literaly changed the way I play Elite.
Hats of to you sir. Thank you.
Man i just want to thank u! I was regretting buying the game cause i could not control my ship, it was taking me 20 minutes to kill the ship in the advanced tutorial. Instaled your confgs and killed it in 2 minutes and actually had fun. Again thank you!
Thanks mate, just got the game and was struggling in the training with the default controls. Will give it a try when i play next.
I've got an X52 I bought several years ago but I end up using keyboard/mouse more because I just don't want to set it all up. 110% agree with you on the roll vs pitch on the mouse, first thing I changed when I started playing. Though I eventually moved all my pip management to the mouse. Scroll up for engines, scroll down for shields. and my mouse has 2 extra buttons so M4 for weapons and M5 for reset. Also left the thruster buttons in their default places, Q,E for laterals and R,F for verticals. A and D for roll. Also I left the throttle controls alone, W increases it at a certain rate and S decreases it. When I need to switch to backwards or back to forwards I just tap X to center the throttle then move it in the desired direction.
You made it look easy! I feel tempted to use this now....
That's good thinking there, BlackMaze. Now that I've seen your setup, it seems very intuitive. I played with a HOTAS since my first day in the game, but since it requires me to get creative with desk space, which often is the reason I don't just jump into the game at a whim, I'll be trying your setup. Thanks! :) I just need to figure out a way to cycle through the weapon configs, and cycle between the current target's subsystems, but that's small stuff I hope :D
Very usefull tips, thanks man, i can't wait to go back home and try this key mapping.
This is awesome and something I now have to look into.
I bought this game yesterday and was struggling a lot with steering my craft. This is really helpful. It almost feels like I'm in control now :D
Thanks! Just got the game and your keybindings helped me a lot!
So I'm going to just say some reasons why joystick is better, ofc I'm talking about a full HOTAS setup and not the joystick on a controller. First of all you do not have to constantly re adjust, I can turn to a target and use roll pitch and yaw to stay on target. Ofc I'm talking fixed weapons in a fighter. I can use lateral thrusters while rotating and accelerating which is a massive advantage in combat, especially cqc where the ships are light. The difference is I can change all directions while still have full control but on keyboard your finger has to move to a new key and back, this is extra time and makes it tricky to quickly move round things. Ofc joystick is harder to learn but in my opinion once you learn how to use it, it's much easier. I've been using my HOTAS with elite since Oculus dk2 was released, may give you a clue as to why I use joystick and always have. I have VR and it's far easier to navigate buttons without your eyes on a joystick rather than a keyboard. This is ofc all opinions but it's also your opinion that keyboard is better, there is no one right way. Just to add tho. In warthunder I cannot use joystick at all, I'm rubbish at it so I have to use keyboard and mouse and I don't think keyboard and mouse is bad unless you are talking about SIM battles
While this would probably work well in CQC flying the condors and other tiny fighters that are relatively responsive to the thrusters. I would NOT recommend relying on them too much flying a Federal Corvette in a combat zone. Heavy ships aren't responsive to thrusters that much. You can't switch between forward and backward movements that fast.
But yes, I do use them. I've gotten so used to my HOTAS setup in the game that maneuvering like this is not an issue. Another thing I disagree with is the aiming comparison he does between Joystick and Mouse, I rarely have to compensate that much up and down with the joystick to stay on target, with the MOUSE on the other I find I had to do that all the time. It all depends a bit on how used you are with your controls and of course the settings for sensitivity and accelerators etc you use.
In the end I say it is to each their own, what you prefer. This video did not convince me M+K is better in any way, easier for most to get used to most likely.
But if you have a GOOD joystick, I'm not talking cheap and unprecise sticks, you won't have any problem with the aim. If your stick drifts with 0 in dead zone, it's a shit stick. Or not calibrated, or broken. A cheap stick I do recommend for Elite is the T16000, due to the HALL effect sensors it uses. (Same as the Warthog and also has twist in the stick for yaw unlike the Warthog)
If you play with no throttle or pedals with your stick, I totally recommend having thrusters set up as this guy does. Or on the numpad if you're left handed. (There are no throttles for left handed people sadly)
The guy mentions another thing, freelook is hard using a mouse. Yes and no, you CAN set it to toggle on the middle muse button (You know the scroll wheel is also a button)
OR there IS actually a mouse with a build in joystick! Asus Chakram. And it works in Elite without any special third party software except Asus Amory. (You need it to set the stick to analogue from just imitating the arrow keys on the keyboard) Totally recommend it.
My current setup is Thrustmasters FCWS throttle paired with a VKB Gladiator NXT joystick. What I don't like with the NXT stick is that it is linear. You can clearly tell the difference on forward/back and left/right movement. Unlike the T16000 that is completely free 360 movement. In the end the T16000 is a LOT more precise while fine aiming as the NXT struggles with diagonal movement.
The Warthog is the same as the T16000 as it uses the same gimball method and HALL sensors. But lacks twist functionality, meaning you can't yaw with the stick. Or roll depending what you sacrifice. I never liked Logitechs sticks they are either too slack or to unprecise. Tends to start drifting very easily too and the X56 for example requires external powered USB ports to function properly. Cheap Chinese materials and buttons. And then we have the ultra expensive overkill sticks from Virpil and VKB etc. You really need to be an enthusiast to justify those prices.
So yes, in a way M+K is a lot simpler. Also a lot cheaper. But not necessary better. It's more up to the hardware and particularly the user in the end.
For beginners that want a good stick especially for Elite Dangerous that won't cost you kidney, I recommend a T16000 with the FWCS throttle bundle if you can find it.
holy moly, thats some splendid control u got over your ship
I'm so excited for this. Please show the configurations in game. Thank you!
2022, game is on sale again, not wanting to spend more money but game is intimidating... this made me want to play it and know i could with my current setup. thanks man!
Very helpful, thanks!
Man I had a heck of a time getting the second ship in the combat tutorial to be in front of me. The mouse movement hardly moves the ship at all; the keyboard rolls are fine but the pitching with the mouse is so painfully slow I had a hard time getting the enemy in front of me.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I'm probably just shit.
This is exactly the tutorial I need. As a noob, I'm totally lost. Great vid mate, well done.
From what I'm seeing, as long as you don't use the throttle for accelerating, you could bind everything to hotas or a controller and have even more control thanks to the sticks
thank you for this video. when you play constantly on a laptop mouse and keyboard is a must. I will have to change my set up and practice.
For the algorithm!
Thank you so much for the tips. I donxt get motion sick easily, but this game was starting to do it for me. Hopefully, I'll be able to play well now.
Great video! Gave me some ideas for my setup, much appreciated!
Dude, game changer for me too, even though this video is 4yrs old! So used to Star Citizen controls, so was hard to adapt to default settings until I saw your video (especially vertical and lateral thrust). Tired of Star Citizen not working right, so will give Elite a spin to satisfy my space sim itch. Thanks!
I just got into ED and flying is a pain in the a**. Your config looks promising and your manouvering skills are very impressive. I'm gonna test your config out
Wow that was very impressive, it would take me a millennium to reach that type of combat skill well done and great video.
I'm also new to Elite Dangerous and being almost at retirement age my fingers are not as supple as they used to be , but that won't stop me from enjoying the vast universe and involvement that awaits me.
I shall check out the rest of your videos and see id there's a beginners guide.
I have only completed the training videos so I have a long way to go!
Any tips on a very good mouse to use on Elite Dangerous any info would be much appreciated.
Hi Bob, I'm glad you find it useful! I use a Logitech G502 mouse and swear by it! Enjoy Elite!
@@BlackMaze Do you by chance have a controls file for the current version of the game? The only information is the small keyboard picture, but that leaves me with a lot of unbound functions. I'm finding I have to remap pretty much rebind everything for it to make sense (no map button by default, really? ("mah immersion")
That was fun to watch, I bet this guy could beat anything in a sidewinder.
Sick controls bro, thanks for the video I love this setup..
Found this 5 years too late! And i know that you will most likely not see this but the keyboard layout is very hard to map out with just the screenshot
Until my Warthog joystick arrives I am going to use your setup, is really comprehensive, thanks! :)
LOVE!!! Thank you!!! Have ALWAYS wanted to get in this game, but I suck when using my old MS Sidewinder Pro. This reminds me so much of Freelancer - Same type of controls. Don't know why I didn't think of that considering the number of hours I put in that game.
you good sir are my hero ... or at least the savior of my fingers/hands .... this control Set is so much smoother then what I did the last whole last week of learning the game
Most welcome :)
Thanks a lot this video helped me tons , keep it up man!!
Can't afford to get a HOTAS at the moment so this is an awesome alternative. I agreed with several comments and switched QE and AD, but overall this was much better for me. Still working on my skills, but feeling better about it!
Thank you mate. Your tutorial is amazing.
Btw the filedropper links isn't working :(
I use your keyboard setup but my joystick is an old Force Feedback 2, which provides powered resistance, allowing for extremely accurate yaw similar to the mouse. I really like this setup because you get all the precision of m+k, but you can still use an analog stick (and all those lovely buttons). o7
Why not just upload the file for the controls so everybody can get them. For now every time i bump into something I have the feeling that i messed up the controls somehow :D
I set up ED at work and I don't have a HOTAS there. I use the x52 at home and I am starting to get good with it. At work I typically just do explore or delivery runs for cash. I"m going to have to try this set up to see how well I do and compare them. Interesting set up for sure.
I set it up that the mouse roll controls the speed. Very nice for cruising and being qfk, or regulating speed against a slower/fatser opponent.
I have a very similar setup. Not strictly 'FPS' though. The differences are that I use W and S for UP and DOWN; and I swapped ROLL and STRAFE. I find I use ROLL more than STRAFE, so putting them on A and D made sense to me. And the UP and DOWN movement is so important, I want it more accessible too.
I currently use SHIFT and CTRL for throttle (like KSP, ha), but I can see the advantage your method of using Full Forward and Full Reverse. I'll need to play around with that.
Good video and demonstration.
Perfect guide! Big thanks, man!
Came back to the game tonight after a long break and discovered all previous settings had been reset. After browsing the shitshow that is the keybinding options and getting nowhere near the control of the ship I had previously when playing, I almost quit out. Thankfully I stumbled across your video and once again balance is restored in my game :). Thank you.
Steve Fletcher what is he using on the c key?
@@Flyingturdless he's using 'c' to go down and 'space' to up from what I remember.
Steve Fletcher awesome thank you and 1 other question where would you put the cycle fire groups? That’s one I didn’t see on his psd
@@Flyingturdless I found a link on reddit and it appears to be from BlackMaze. Flight groups appear to be on the mouse. You're welcome, I'm glad to be of help.
www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/3mcc2f/here_is_my_fpsstyle_keyboard_layout_for_elite/
Your video will improve my rookie skills very nicely ^^ Thanks =)
BlackMaze, Hopeing you will updateing this for the recent update. I find it hard to follow because of the changes made in the Keyboard setup help screens.
Damn you are good. Lol amazing control of the ship. I just started but i can’t wait to get better! Great guide! Will change my settings asap! Godspeed commander!
dude, great piloting, i will now give it a try too.
I just wanted to say a great big THANK YOU for this video - it's very well-presented, and incredibly helpful =D There is just *one* thing I'd suggest/ask if you get a chance - perhaps if you were to do like ... a follow-up video on this one maybe ? Could you possibly post like ... a screenshot showing your keybindings on-screen just for a few seconds so that people can take a screen grab of it ? For the longest time I misunderstood and mapped C to pitch down and space bar to pitch up rather than vertical thrust down/up as appropriate (because I'm an idiot haha), and I've gotten so used to that now that I've had to come up with an alternative to your suggested bindings (which is fine, but I'd rather have just stuck with yours from the beginning) =]] Thanks so much, and keep up the awesome work ! =D
I'd say a combination of a simple joystick with left right twist, the obv forward backward left right pull and a keyboard. Using the joystick only for 6dof movement and maybe firing.
thanks for teaching me the main controls especially the combat im subbing
You are a genius mate! Just set my rig up like yours, it's so easy!! Great video :)
I love this style, the default controls are a complete mess and I couldn't figure out where to go to make it better so I kept using hotas for a while but is annoying to setup on desk. I'll install elite dangerous and give this a try later tonight.
Thanks for the video, really helped me refine my set up. Personally I feel that Elite just doesn't really take advantage of Hotas and Pedals. I much prefer keyboard and mouse for ED compared to my Warthog and Saitek Combat pedals.
Especially the fact I don't have to lock my chair into my pedals which makes it easy to walk away during the drudgery of supercruise.
Thank you for creating this video! I tried your settings; probably the hardest keyboard and mouse setup I've ever tried. I'm happy that it is intuitive for you, but unfortunately, I cannot use it.
Update: I'm using it now! Just needed to put in the time and now it's second nature. Again, appreciate the video! o7
Thanks a lot for the video. If you have a spare moment, would you mind sharing your .binds file to a pastepin? I'm having trouble translating everything from your diagram into the keybind configuration menu which is organized very differently.
Finally found this video again. Time to set up.
After seeing that i really wonder if it's necessary to play FA OFF
Glad I found this but you REALLY needed to SHOW us how you set up the keyboard because as I type this I am having a really hard time working out how to actually set up the rest of the keys. I have to look at the picture and then scour through the options looking for each one individually and that not only takes so much time but it's super annoying.
Agree with many comments - wish l had found this a lot sooner and that you went through (shown) you key bindings. I wish the game also allowed different binding as in Binding A for combat, Binding B for mining and Binding C for exploring. Thumbs up
i just bought a razor tartarus for elite and this is giving me ideas for mapping thanks.
At 13:53 he says Space Bar to go Down, but he is incorrect, I'm sure he meant to say C to go Down.
And if you watch his thumb close, you will see he is pressing C to go Down.
So he is using C for Vertical Down, and Space Bar is Vertical Up.
you explained that its possible to use keyboard and mouse intuitively but why would it be better?
Played with it a bit and really like it but the only thing i dont like is how hard it is to manage your throttle for optimal turn time aka the blue zone
I looked for this controls for weeks when I first started the game and now Im going to change my all habbits again
Do you think you could show or tell how you have all your control set up? It would be a great help for establishing a solid baseline.
Sorry for the necro comment, but I had to say thank you for this! I just started playing this game a few weeks ago, and started with a keyboard/joystick combination. It worked well enough for trading and other non-combat activities, but I could never get the hang of it with combat. Holy moly, does this totally change the game (in a good way)! Thanks again!
So I have a proper HOTAS (X-52) and just bought the game - I've heard that you definitely need the HOTAS to enjoy the game - the problem with my desk right now is that 1) I don't reall have a lot of room for the HOTAS and 2) the height makes it uncomfortable for my hands on the stick (in a real planet the hands are way down compared to my desk height).
And that's how I ended up just youtubing "Elite Dangerous mouse and keyboard" since I wanted to know if it's such a huge disadvantage to fly using just the mouse and keyboard - and I stumbled across your video.
It's not long at all (you were apologizing at some point) and after more than a dozen space combat videos of ED that I've seen where people just have their stick up and try to loop their way back to the enemy's tail, you seem to use every possible tool at your disposal to not lose them from your sights - very efficient and it's all done with keyboard and mouse.
Big thumbs up and thank you for taking the time for this video! :)