As a Falcon fan what im hearing from the national media and all the fans of other teams is that its a bad pick because we paid Cousins. Okay please remember that we havent had solid QB play since 2021 with Ryan it that was below avg for him. We had to deal with Mariota, Ridder and Heinicke at QB. So in Free agency ( which comes b4 the draft) you're telling me to gorget the past 3 seasons and not go get the best free agent QB because we have our eye on a guy in the draft which is six wks away? No go get you guy in Free Agency. If Cousins does what we hope him to do we will not be in the top 10 again next yr or the yr after which is where most high rated QBs are taken. Not to mention the tampering allegations , hell, we may not have a 1st next yr. Last point. Next yrs QB class has been called weak already. What QB would be better than Penix next year? JMO
I swear the people with commen sense sees the genius move the falcons made this offseason. These people really just pocket watching and hating on the play.
The problem with the pick is that one of the benefits of drafting a QB is getting him on his rookie deal and building around him having Kirk with that contract negates that if the Falcons really loved this rookie QB they should have not went after Cousins
No he is not and shame on you for laughing at someone for that. Unfortunately for you - it takes one to know one. I promise you that you have not even come close to what he has accomplished in your pathetic life
I agree with Keyshawn penix is the real deal. Let him sit behind cousins for a year or 2 and then let him rip. Just like the old days when qbs sat for a year or 2
Completely right. This is a move that sets success in motion for years to come. Instead of just a couple decent years with Kurt and then a drop off when he falls off/gets injured. Our ceiling is unknown this season coming up. We might go a lot further than people expect. The money spent, the top ten draft pick…it’s all gonna be worth it
lol Kirk won’t need it bc he balls out in the regular season but he will have a pretty long leash for minimum 1 year if not 2. If he wants to be there for year 3 he’ll need an NFC championship appearance.
I think everyone assumes they wanted to draft him at 8 when they didn't. They wanted to draft him late in the early 2nd round. Meaning trade down draft a DE then trade back up and draft Penix that was the plan. Nobody thought the market for Penix was going to take off like that. Nobody did or planned on it. Because of his injury history and thwy didn't think he was mobile enough. Then he threw at the combine.snd everybody said ohh damn." Then his medicals turned out to be all Green, meaning he was super good. Everybody said ohh damn again." Then he ran at his pro day and ran a 4.5 4.6 40 and had a 32-inch vertical, and folks said here we go. All of a sudden, his stock went threw the damn roof. Everybody wanted a private workout. You can't deny talent. Man, Penix is the only QB since Mahones at TexTech to throw back to back seasons of 45k passing yards. The man led his team to a National Title game. It is what it is. 4 damn teams called the Falcons trying to trade up to get Penix....All of that, we we're going to trade back up to get him in the late first early 2nd round, thought went right out the window. Nobody thought that many QBs were going that early in the 1st nobody! So lets cut the crap. They Signed Cousins thinking that Penix woukd be available late 1st early second. They had to change plans and draft him at 8. That's how it goes sometimes. The Falcons are the talk of sports right now....good bad or indifferent....publicity is publicity 😂 if nobody is talking about you. it's cause you are not making waves. The Falcons are making Big Waves....and they got the best thrower in the draft. Like it or not, he's one of the better young QBs in the League now. And he's a Damn Dirty Bird.
You can't compound a mistake by making more mistakes. Either you sign Penix or Cousins, doing both puts a cap on the team potential by either limiting their ability to go for it now, and taking money from the future so the team can't build around a rookie QB. The GM should be fired, he hasn't made the right pick with our top ten picks yet.
@LionelLordOfTheThundercats you basicly saying you know more about the Falcons roster...plans moving forward...and money situation than GMs and Head Coaches that make 1mil to 7 mil a yr. Smh, nope, you don't. You talking out your ass my friend. Don't be a bird and chirp what you hear from talking heads.
@@sweetnessdabutta9985 Just because someone has a job, doesn't mean they are good at that job. What has the GM done that makes you think he knows what he doing? His last head coach got fired, he hasn't improved the teams record since he has gotten there, and the team has the exact same holes in the roster it had four years ago. Not one player he has drafted after the first round has become anything more than a rotational player. You accept because he as the job he is an expert, you don't actually pay attention to his performance. As for the coach, last head coaching job he had ended with him fired. 21-38 is what we call a losing record. I guess he most know it all because he got a job. The argument from authority is a logical fallacy, and obtaining knowledge in this way is fallible. You should read up on logical fallacies.
@LionelLordOfTheThundercats he didn't hire the last Coach. The Coach was hired by the front office not Terry so to put that on him is crazy. 2nd He didn't tell Art to say he good with Mariota and Ridder. Art did that. He Art wanted Pitts so he drafted Pitts, Art wanted Big WRs so he drafted London, Art wanted Robinson so he drafted Robinson. With that being said those aren't bad picks at all. If there were bad picks nobody would be saying how talented the Falcons are on Offense. But reguardless of how you feel about this past draft the bottom line is you only go as far as your Qb takes you. Its the most important position on the field. Everybody knew Tampa was good...but they had Winston at QB who is trash so they were just ok. In step Brady Boom they win a SB. The Steelers have Watts at LB/DE has is a double digit sack guy every yr. How many Playoff wins does he have?!?! None How many playoff wins do the Steelers have since Big Ben retired?!?! None Nuff said man
@@sweetnessdabutta9985 He didn't hire Smith, he got Smith fired. He brought in players that Smith didn't know how to use, the record didn't improve and he got fired. If you are saying that he drafts who ever he is told to draft, than what is the point in him having that job? Those were bad picks because they didn't make the team better. You can only go as far as your QB takes you, but you still can only play one of them at a time. We now have two, and based on the way we drafted, one of them is a 100M bridge QB. You say Winston was trash because the greatest QB ever won a SB with his team after bringing in the second greatest TE ever, as well as AB. They brought in all the FA Bardy asked them to so that he could win a championship in a short window. They didn't draft a QB in the first round after siging him did they? He was older than Cousins, so why didn't TB get their QB of the future? The Chargers have Herbert, how many playoff wins does he have? NONE. So does that mean no one should draft a QB? How many playoff wins does Miami have since Jason Taylor retired? None for 23 years. Is that "Nuff said man" that is a ridiculous stat.
I’m feeling this way also. Especially with our oline Kurt may be a statue and we saw how it was for Ryan his last year here. If cousins can’t perform behind it Penix will get a shot.
Look what happened to Rodgers.INJURED for the year 1st game 1st quarter 1st 5 minutes. Now you have Cousins coming off same injury. This move looks better every minute. When the management met Penix, they knew this is our future. We will pay the price, take the criticism, but we have the future taken care of.
Not one of the guys they picked up on defense is anything more than a rotational player. This front office can't draft defense at all. We drafted three DT because we didn't draft the one we needed last year. Now we still have massive holes in our secondary and the worst pass rush in the league.
@@quentinmathes2361 your own opinion is what makes a debate. You don’t argue against points that no one is making. That’s bad debating skills and it makes for terrible television. That’s why the ratings are bad. His disposition is off. Now if you want to further emphasize your point you may say many people may argue this or that. But to just argue a point without proper set up is not proper debate etiquette.
Good luck with Cousins, his success came because of JJ and O'Connell, before that it was Diggs and a younger Thielen, that Rome miss might come back to sting ATL. Cousins needs studs, hopefully we can see some real power from London, Pitts, and Mooney.
You are all confused! It’s not about the money! Great pick and everyone assumes a mediocre Cousins is the man! He’d better come to camp ready to compete! Great pick!!!! Cousins isn’t leading them anywhere! Wake up Richard! Are you sure about Cousins?
How does everyone forget that the defense was the only reason the Falcons were even in games last season??? Our defense will be just fine. The money spent and the draft pick was smart thinking.
The defense is actually going to be better you stole Jalen Trice who's supposed to be a first round pick. Not to mention Jimmy lake is bringing the Death Row Defense to Atlanta. I watched him literally give Mike Leach who is the one of the best offensive coordinators of all time fits. He's not a great head coach but it's kind of unfair to have him as a defensive coordinator. Is crowning achievement is a cornerback who plays for the Chiefs by the name of Trent McDuffie. He also made Buddha Baker Marcus Peters The NFL's littered with his developed talent.
It’s worst for Penix than Atlanta. He needs to play right away. History shows that older QBs out of college who have to sit have ZERO SUCCESS!!! Strange stat I’ve been hearing go around but it’s not good
The problem is Michael penix is a generational talent. He's got the heart of Byron leftwich and the arm of Warren Moon. If you don't sign Kirk cousins and say you sign a Jacoby brissette and then you say well I'm going to pick him up at pick number 20 after I trade down what the hell happens if a team like Denver decided to pick him you'd be screwed. All it takes is one general manager to fall in Love with a quarterback and your plan is screwed. The Seahawks wanted to trade up but no one would trade with them they watched him all year and they knew who how damn good he was. This will not be debated anymore in 3 years. Atlanta knows there's going to be plenty of tackles and defensive ends and corners that are going to be available for the next couple years I don't think we're going to see another Michael penix because I've never seen one of these in college before. Name me one quarterback that took his team to an undefeated season and set his coach up for the best coaching job in college football. Washington was a good team but not a great team. It was Penix and Braelyn Trice both of which Atlanta got that made them a great team.
Talented no doubt but still 24 years old with 5 season ending injuries under his belt. Drafting an injury prone back up with potential as a insurance policy to a 36 year old qb1 coming off an achilles injury is just not a smart investment
That remains to be said but he made Washington from mid-tier pack 12 to a national title contender. and it wasn't Kaleb Deboer. We had pretty much the same team that lost to Montana at home then you add penix and we're one of the best teams in the country. Although he probably owes Penix a lot of money for all that money Alabama gave him. The reality is if Penix didn't play as well as he did at Washington Alabama doesn't even pick up the phone. We won that league with three and four star talent when teams like Oregon and USC got all the top tier talent and all the five-star recruits. When it's all said and done I'm pretty sure Penix and Trice are going to both look like top 15 talent. Passing on Penix and giving him to a team like Denver the raiders and then drafting a guy like Spencer rattler or Jordan Travis would have been a huge mistake. Maybe you get a Shadeur Sanders next draft or a Jalen Milroe. It's all a much bigger gamble because if Penix played at Colorado they probably won a hell of a lot more games same thing with Alabama. If he played at Alabama last year they win the national title and we're not having this conversation we're talking about who's better Caleb Williams or Michael Penix. So just cuz he picked the team like Washington doesn't really make a big difference. The falcons saw his his generational talent and felt it would be stupid to risk the chance of letting someone else pick in front of them. I'm actually shocked more teams didn't trade up to try to get him. The teams that picked quarterbacks are going to be scratching their heads to why they didn't realize he was going to be this good.
8th pick in the first round is not so much as you think. No. 8 pick in the 2024 NFL Draft is projected to receive a four-year contract worth $22.8 million with a signing bonus of $13.4 million. So about 9 million per year. Less than 1/5 of Cousin's salary.
Also, regarding Cousins feelings, I have yet to see a QB that is enthusiastic about his successor being drafted, so enjoy your 50MM Kirk. I’m GLAD you’re here, but I don’t care about your confusion here. Hey, use it as motivation to win a couple of playoff games.
You have to have a trade partner to trade back. The defensive players in this draft were not transcending. No Micah Paraons, no Will Anderson, no effin Lawrence Taylor. I mean, one of these defensive players COULD end up being a world beater, but none of them showed anything on film that spoke to that level of a player. I watched film on the top three Edge guys, and the others and I didn’t see much of a difference. I love the Penix pick.
@@MightyDoug316 the Seahawks would’ve been my second choice for him. I was really thinking he was going to the Raiders or Seahawks I think they were thinking the same thing
@@curtismn31 yeah man Falcons being greedy but I don’t blame them Raiders would have been a good fit with Davante there and a good system but Luke Getsy would’ve been his coordinator
Atlanta is Eastern Time zone everyone admits West Coast games doesnt get viewed like that. Yeah Penix was putting up numbers but people weren't really taking him seriously. It's just a frequently injuried pac-12 quarterback in the league known for not playing defense . Up until they actually got a medical grade on him at the combine at the end of February and then went to his pro day in March and then their own private evaluation in April could they make a good assessment on him. Because all you heard was buy his injuries, but his injuries, but injuries.
Penix was a very smart pick you forgot Kirk cousins is 37 and coming off of Achilles injury. Aaron Rogers did the same thing and he was injured the fourth play of last year. The jets season was over. I’m not saying they are the same but an Achilles isn’t a sprain ankle…🙏🏾 so having him there for now and or later is very smart look at the jets
So they draft a qb #8 overall as as insurance policy??😶… even worse you draft one that can’t stay on the field himself kirk at 36 coming off achilles is probably more durable than he is
Penix is the best qb in the draft.the falcons need a qb to play for next 10 plus yrs.he wouldn't have been available later in draft raiders would have taken him or seahawks.Falcons did the correct thing take the best player when your time comes to pick
Everyone slamming Richard Sherman needs to take a good long hard look in the mirror. Your lives are all so perfect? If we all knew what your skeletons are everyone would clown in a major way. Keep it pushin
Penix had 2 ACL tears in 3 years witch makes him a liability but Kirk torn Achilles hmmm guess Atlanta is becoming the new Cleveland with their decision making
No he wouldn’t, like Key said the Falcons were not one player away from the Super Bowl so it didn’t matter who they drafted. The whole basis for the criticism is the money but who do they have to pay in the next couple of years?
Truth is My falcons did right period. Everybody really hating cuz we now have a great young team. Def stepped up it was jus Qb play holding us back. Plus people forget we have no back up n cousins waznt a forever qb move
Just like what happened in this with Sherm, it makes complete sense if you sit and think about it. Going all in to win a QB with Kirk or secure your future for the next decade. It’s an easy decision. Kirk is the stabilizer, Penix will step in when the roster is more complete and take them over the top.
Atlanta has enough to win the NFC south. The winner of the division played in the NFC championship. I like their chance win the division and be a top 10 offense. Another safety will be added somehow and i can see a 11-6 season.
@LionelLordOfTheThundercats 11-6...13-4. I don't think it would matter much. I just saw Tampa be a few mistakes from playing in the Super Bowl. Coaching should make this defense more than viable enough to win the division. Get another safety before mid-season and I'll agree that 13-4 could be possible.
@@iamsupa8239 13-4 means we are better, gives us a chance at home field in the playoffs, and makes us good enough to compete with KC. Arthur Smith was a bad coach, but his slow ball control offense hid how bad this defense really is. We were last place in pass rush win rate and turnovers. We don't have the players to have a good defense. Plus we don't have the weapons that Minnesota had when Kirk was putting up those numbers. We needed that 8th pick to be an impact player.
Penix was a great pick for ATL anybody that has a problem with it don’t know shit about football bro. Penix is that guy he will be better than Kirk.. Kirk is not good plus he’s coming off an injury. Don’t be surprised if Kirk is traded soon
KeyShawn is a greedy GM,period.People simply asking why didn't you invest in Kirk as much as possible.Its funny how Keyshawn could easily be right tho lol.
If they passed on Cousins and missed out on Penix then they'd have more issues.
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Nah they would have picked up a food pass rusher and other pieces with all that other money
As a Falcon fan what im hearing from the national media and all the fans of other teams is that its a bad pick because we paid Cousins. Okay please remember that we havent had solid QB play since 2021 with Ryan it that was below avg for him. We had to deal with Mariota, Ridder and Heinicke at QB. So in Free agency ( which comes b4 the draft) you're telling me to gorget the past 3 seasons and not go get the best free agent QB because we have our eye on a guy in the draft which is six wks away? No go get you guy in Free Agency. If Cousins does what we hope him to do we will not be in the top 10 again next yr or the yr after which is where most high rated QBs are taken. Not to mention the tampering allegations , hell, we may not have a 1st next yr. Last point. Next yrs QB class has been called weak already. What QB would be better than Penix next year? JMO
To add to your point look at the past few ends the Falcons have took.. Not one person in this draft on defense isn't a game changer guy
I swear the people with commen sense sees the genius move the falcons made this offseason. These people really just pocket watching and hating on the play.
The problem with the pick is that one of the benefits of drafting a QB is getting him on his rookie deal and building around him having Kirk with that contract negates that if the Falcons really loved this rookie QB they should have not went after Cousins
Welcome back Richard, God bless!
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Thanks to yo mama
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That's a great pick for the Falcons from a longevity standpoint
Sherm still drunk😂
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Damn lol
No he is not and shame on you for laughing at someone for that. Unfortunately for you - it takes one to know one. I promise you that you have not even come close to what he has accomplished in your pathetic life
So are you how ironic
I agree with Keyshawn penix is the real deal. Let him sit behind cousins for a year or 2 and then let him rip. Just like the old days when qbs sat for a year or 2
Good Morning Welcome Back Richard 🎉
The elephant in the room, which none of these analysts have hardly addressed, is this: Cousins isn’t worth $100M over two years.
White Privilege
@@markreed4074liberals watch football? Ain’t know that.
@@markreed4074 QB privilege*
@@distortedsoul27 More this, cause they been re washing the dude that lost his job to Herbert for awhile now.. Hes on the Giants now I think
@@markreed4074 stop race baiting only garbage humans do that
When it's a PERFECT WORLD I'll let you know, miss you big homie, welcome back to the SHOW!
the QB position is much more valuable than any other position
terry said he was telling arthur how they were tryna move back into the first round
If Kurt is healthy and wins 10 games the falcons won’t be able to pick a qb in the top 10 then have to leverage the bank later
Completely right. This is a move that sets success in motion for years to come. Instead of just a couple decent years with Kurt and then a drop off when he falls off/gets injured. Our ceiling is unknown this season coming up. We might go a lot further than people expect. The money spent, the top ten draft pick…it’s all gonna be worth it
I missed Sherm!! Hell yeah
Losing your job before it even officially start is insane work 😂
Didn't lose it, just found out it has a shelf life. He better pray Penix doesn't beat him out come spring.
Yeah. That is wild, Kirk is definitely looking over his shoulder.
lol Kirk won’t need it bc he balls out in the regular season but he will have a pretty long leash for minimum 1 year if not 2. If he wants to be there for year 3 he’ll need an NFC championship appearance.
@@insominac who cares lmao he’s a place holder
Good love by the eagles . The Aaron rogers , Jordan Iove angle comes to mind
I appreciate Fox for letting Richard Sherman come back and not just firing him like ESPN probably would have.
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Thank you Key!
Sherman buzzed like a 🐝
Guys like Micah and Draymond should do entire segments when guys like Richard get in trouble because they’d do it to them .
I think everyone assumes they wanted to draft him at 8 when they didn't.
They wanted to draft him late in the early 2nd round. Meaning trade down draft a DE then trade back up and draft Penix that was the plan.
Nobody thought the market for Penix was going to take off like that. Nobody did or planned on it. Because of his injury history and thwy didn't think he was mobile enough.
Then he threw at the combine.snd everybody said ohh damn."
Then his medicals turned out to be all Green, meaning he was super good. Everybody said ohh damn again."
Then he ran at his pro day and ran a 4.5 4.6 40 and had a 32-inch vertical, and folks said here we go.
All of a sudden, his stock went threw the damn roof. Everybody wanted a private workout.
You can't deny talent. Man, Penix is the only QB since Mahones at TexTech to throw back to back seasons of 45k passing yards. The man led his team to a National Title game. It is what it is.
4 damn teams called the Falcons trying to trade up to get Penix....All of that, we we're going to trade back up to get him in the late first early 2nd round, thought went right out the window.
Nobody thought that many QBs were going that early in the 1st nobody! So lets cut the crap.
They Signed Cousins thinking that Penix woukd be available late 1st early second.
They had to change plans and draft him at 8. That's how it goes sometimes. The Falcons are the talk of sports right now....good bad or indifferent....publicity is publicity 😂 if nobody is talking about you. it's cause you are not making waves.
The Falcons are making Big Waves....and they got the best thrower in the draft.
Like it or not, he's one of the better young QBs in the League now. And he's a Damn Dirty Bird.
You can't compound a mistake by making more mistakes. Either you sign Penix or Cousins, doing both puts a cap on the team potential by either limiting their ability to go for it now, and taking money from the future so the team can't build around a rookie QB. The GM should be fired, he hasn't made the right pick with our top ten picks yet.
@LionelLordOfTheThundercats you basicly saying you know more about the Falcons roster...plans moving forward...and money situation than GMs and Head Coaches that make 1mil to 7 mil a yr. Smh, nope, you don't. You talking out your ass my friend.
Don't be a bird and chirp what you hear from talking heads.
@@sweetnessdabutta9985 Just because someone has a job, doesn't mean they are good at that job. What has the GM done that makes you think he knows what he doing? His last head coach got fired, he hasn't improved the teams record since he has gotten there, and the team has the exact same holes in the roster it had four years ago. Not one player he has drafted after the first round has become anything more than a rotational player. You accept because he as the job he is an expert, you don't actually pay attention to his performance.
As for the coach, last head coaching job he had ended with him fired. 21-38 is what we call a losing record. I guess he most know it all because he got a job.
The argument from authority is a logical fallacy, and obtaining knowledge in this way is fallible. You should read up on logical fallacies.
@LionelLordOfTheThundercats he didn't hire the last Coach. The Coach was hired by the front office not Terry so to put that on him is crazy.
2nd He didn't tell Art to say he good with Mariota and Ridder. Art did that.
He Art wanted Pitts so he drafted Pitts, Art wanted Big WRs so he drafted London, Art wanted Robinson so he drafted Robinson.
With that being said those aren't bad picks at all. If there were bad picks nobody would be saying how talented the Falcons are on Offense.
But reguardless of how you feel about this past draft the bottom line is you only go as far as your Qb takes you.
Its the most important position on the field.
Everybody knew Tampa was good...but they had Winston at QB who is trash so they were just ok. In step Brady Boom they win a SB.
The Steelers have Watts at LB/DE has is a double digit sack guy every yr.
How many Playoff wins does he have?!?! None
How many playoff wins do the Steelers have since Big Ben retired?!?! None
Nuff said man
@@sweetnessdabutta9985 He didn't hire Smith, he got Smith fired. He brought in players that Smith didn't know how to use, the record didn't improve and he got fired.
If you are saying that he drafts who ever he is told to draft, than what is the point in him having that job?
Those were bad picks because they didn't make the team better.
You can only go as far as your QB takes you, but you still can only play one of them at a time. We now have two, and based on the way we drafted, one of them is a 100M bridge QB.
You say Winston was trash because the greatest QB ever won a SB with his team after bringing in the second greatest TE ever, as well as AB. They brought in all the FA Bardy asked them to so that he could win a championship in a short window. They didn't draft a QB in the first round after siging him did they? He was older than Cousins, so why didn't TB get their QB of the future?
The Chargers have Herbert, how many playoff wins does he have? NONE. So does that mean no one should draft a QB?
How many playoff wins does Miami have since Jason Taylor retired? None for 23 years. Is that "Nuff said man" that is a ridiculous stat.
The elephant in the room was that the falcons DID NOT expect him to be there! Once it was their turn, they had a huge decision to make!
Next year hopefully they’ll draft a few more qbs- you can never have too many.
As a Bears fan, Thank you Atlanta for letting Rome slide to us :)
Atlanta signing Mooney helped too.
You’re welcome. Sure no problem
>Michael Penix Jr 🏹
Atlanta isn’t the only team that let him slide but ok
Even better he's the best overall WR in the draft and it's not even close. He does every well.
Penix is just Luxury Insurance
Keyshawn stop hollering!
Watch Cousins have a set back w the Achilles and Penix save the day
Then what was the point of giving him a 100 mill
Exactly whats gonna happen
I’m feeling this way also. Especially with our oline Kurt may be a statue and we saw how it was for Ryan his last year here. If cousins can’t perform behind it Penix will get a shot.
Shiddd he cant stay on the field himself they better hope not
I like the pick by Atlanta..so many avg to below avg qb's in this league.If you think you got yo guy take him.
When did Richard make bond?
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Stop ratting
When your girlfriend bailed him out.
Man made a mistake. Chill out Ms. Perfect
Look what happened to Rodgers.INJURED for the year 1st game 1st quarter 1st 5 minutes. Now you have Cousins coming off same injury. This move looks better every minute. When the management met Penix, they knew this is our future. We will pay the price, take the criticism, but we have the future taken care of.
Kirk: "I want to retire a Falcon"
Penix: "Hold my Durag"
Penix Jr 🏹 A+ pick! Brilliant
With 5 defensive dawgs & A stud RB & WR throughout the draft 🔥
Not one of the guys they picked up on defense is anything more than a rotational player. This front office can't draft defense at all. We drafted three DT because we didn't draft the one we needed last year. Now we still have massive holes in our secondary and the worst pass rush in the league.
@@LionelLordOfTheThundercats Not true! They signed to 2 UDFAs CBs.
And their not finished. Do your homework before y’all post please, thank you
@@deelawton4 LOL, they aren't going to make the team, that is why they didn't get drafted. Man you will drink whatever Koolaid the falcons pour you.
@@LionelLordOfTheThundercats Speaking of Kool-Aid, we didn’t draft Kool-Aid thank gawd 🙄 Or Dallas somebody I forgot his name 🤔
@@deelawton4 Of course we didn't because we would never draft a player that could possible be a star on defense.
Penix did deserve the Heisman. You don't give it to a player with 3 loses over a player with none who also has the stats. That was sad
Truth.
Key the type of guy to say maybe I’ll come to work tomorrow maybe I won’t dude so indecisive and won’t make any definitive stance unless it boneheaded
Keep Sherman and PLEASE fire Keyshawn!! “He can either be a great QB or bad”… no shit captain obvious!!
He’s so annoying
I can either make it to the NFL or not😂
no 💩 Sherlock would’ve hit so much harder there! But still great point! 😂
What about the in between and they both can go the whole show for that reason
Not so annoying? Extremely! Annoying!!@Durag__bandit98
Atleast Sherm admitted to getting it..
Keyshawn is right on point!
Key just be arguing points nobody’s making. Just arguing to argue lol
No that's called having your own mind
@@quentinmathes2361 your own opinion is what makes a debate. You don’t argue against points that no one is making. That’s bad debating skills and it makes for terrible television. That’s why the ratings are bad. His disposition is off. Now if you want to further emphasize your point you may say many people may argue this or that. But to just argue a point without proper set up is not proper debate etiquette.
Richard “Im drunk now” Sherman
Good luck with Cousins, his success came because of JJ and O'Connell, before that it was Diggs and a younger Thielen, that Rome miss might come back to sting ATL. Cousins needs studs, hopefully we can see some real power from London, Pitts, and Mooney.
Ppl gotta stop saying the falcons could have waited to pick him. No they couldn't have. Penix was the best left and multiple teams where eyeing him
This! If the falcons didn't pick Penix at 8th they wouldn't have gotten him at all because other teams were trying to trade up to get MPJ!
Welcome back Richard
Good to see Sherm!
Richard was right. A good pick on the wrong team.
Why does Richard look high on the thumbnail? Lol
No bs soon as I seen the thumbnail I said dawg looks drunk
Skip does too but you ain’t talking about that tho goofy‼️
Look drunk hope he not driving home after work
You are all confused! It’s not about the money! Great pick and everyone assumes a mediocre Cousins is the man! He’d better come to camp ready to compete! Great pick!!!! Cousins isn’t leading them anywhere! Wake up Richard! Are you sure about Cousins?
How does everyone forget that the defense was the only reason the Falcons were even in games last season??? Our defense will be just fine. The money spent and the draft pick was smart thinking.
The defense is actually going to be better you stole Jalen Trice who's supposed to be a first round pick. Not to mention Jimmy lake is bringing the Death Row Defense to Atlanta. I watched him literally give Mike Leach who is the one of the best offensive coordinators of all time fits. He's not a great head coach but it's kind of unfair to have him as a defensive coordinator. Is crowning achievement is a cornerback who plays for the Chiefs by the name of Trent McDuffie. He also made Buddha Baker Marcus Peters The NFL's littered with his developed talent.
They still didn't get a CB or Safety
Keshawn is the only person on the media who’s talking 💯 facts. Idk what drugs these analysis is on but they need to put it down.
It’s worst for Penix than Atlanta. He needs to play right away. History shows that older QBs out of college who have to sit have ZERO SUCCESS!!! Strange stat I’ve been hearing go around but it’s not good
If the Falcons need Penix in the next 2-3 years the Gm should be fired if they dont need him GM should be fired
curt cousins is a great back up
The problem is Michael penix is a generational talent. He's got the heart of Byron leftwich and the arm of Warren Moon. If you don't sign Kirk cousins and say you sign a Jacoby brissette and then you say well I'm going to pick him up at pick number 20 after I trade down what the hell happens if a team like Denver decided to pick him you'd be screwed. All it takes is one general manager to fall in Love with a quarterback and your plan is screwed. The Seahawks wanted to trade up but no one would trade with them they watched him all year and they knew who how damn good he was. This will not be debated anymore in 3 years. Atlanta knows there's going to be plenty of tackles and defensive ends and corners that are going to be available for the next couple years I don't think we're going to see another Michael penix because I've never seen one of these in college before. Name me one quarterback that took his team to an undefeated season and set his coach up for the best coaching job in college football. Washington was a good team but not a great team. It was Penix and Braelyn Trice both of which Atlanta got that made them a great team.
Talented no doubt but still 24 years old with 5 season ending injuries under his belt. Drafting an injury prone back up with potential as a insurance policy to a 36 year old qb1 coming off an achilles injury is just not a smart investment
Damn sure not 8th overall
That remains to be said but he made Washington from mid-tier pack 12 to a national title contender. and it wasn't Kaleb Deboer. We had pretty much the same team that lost to Montana at home then you add penix and we're one of the best teams in the country. Although he probably owes Penix a lot of money for all that money Alabama gave him. The reality is if Penix didn't play as well as he did at Washington Alabama doesn't even pick up the phone. We won that league with three and four star talent when teams like Oregon and USC got all the top tier talent and all the five-star recruits. When it's all said and done I'm pretty sure Penix and Trice are going to both look like top 15 talent. Passing on Penix and giving him to a team like Denver the raiders and then drafting a guy like Spencer rattler or Jordan Travis would have been a huge mistake. Maybe you get a Shadeur Sanders next draft or a Jalen Milroe. It's all a much bigger gamble because if Penix played at Colorado they probably won a hell of a lot more games same thing with Alabama. If he played at Alabama last year they win the national title and we're not having this conversation we're talking about who's better Caleb Williams or Michael Penix. So just cuz he picked the team like Washington doesn't really make a big difference. The falcons saw his his generational talent and felt it would be stupid to risk the chance of letting someone else pick in front of them. I'm actually shocked more teams didn't trade up to try to get him. The teams that picked quarterbacks are going to be scratching their heads to why they didn't realize he was going to be this good.
Let me throw this out instead of signing Cousins they could have gotten multiple players to build a team and drafted him
Sherm basically said every team that’s done it before is cool but the falcons can’t do it 😂😂
This draft process ain’t been fair to Penix.
Finally! Skip addressed it: Kirk just isn’t that good.
Keyshawn was actually spittin facts for once ok ok🔥
13:07 he keep saying that but the telecast immediately said Atlanta reached for the second pick and there was better DTs there
great pick by Terry...
If Ur Serious Abt Winning You Don't Sign Kirk Cousins !!!
Damn Penix. That's a lot of people that are going to be hitting you up for money. I know they might be family, but dude get ready for the requests.
8th pick in the first round is not so much as you think. No. 8 pick in the 2024 NFL Draft is projected to receive a four-year contract worth $22.8 million with a signing bonus of $13.4 million. So about 9 million per year. Less than 1/5 of Cousin's salary.
Sherman goes at Lamar the same way he went after his ex Wife
Or his in-laws "come through Ray" 😅
He was a Raheem pick. He wasn't there six months ago. Raheem was hired 2 months ago.
Also, regarding Cousins feelings, I have yet to see a QB that is enthusiastic about his successor being drafted, so enjoy your 50MM Kirk. I’m GLAD you’re here, but I don’t care about your confusion here. Hey, use it as motivation to win a couple of playoff games.
You have to have a trade partner to trade back. The defensive players in this draft were not transcending. No Micah Paraons, no Will Anderson, no effin Lawrence Taylor. I mean, one of these defensive players COULD end up being a world beater, but none of them showed anything on film that spoke to that level of a player. I watched film on the top three Edge guys, and the others and I didn’t see much of a difference. I love the Penix pick.
Penix don't need to sit for 2 years. Maybe sit him for the first half of his first season at the longest.
90%of rookie QBs aren't ready to start their rookie year, this might be the best thing to happen for pennix.
I disagree because I believe that in this era of quarterback play. You need two of them.
Did you forget about last season sir🤦🏿♂️
2 QB's makes sense sure but they probably should have signed Wilson, Fields, or Brissett as a bridge to the future instead of Cousins.
penix will be starting by game four
Falcons drafted 5 defensive players with the remainder of there picks. We just secured the Quarterback position for the next 7 years rise up
He was a Raheem pick. He wasn't there six months ago. Raheem was hired 2 months ago. And don't say OL when they already had a top OL.
I agree with Keyshawn!
In my world, I think the Raiders were the perfect team for him. It’s just a feeling.
Seahawks
@@MightyDoug316 the Seahawks would’ve been my second choice for him. I was really thinking he was going to the Raiders or Seahawks I think they were thinking the same thing
@@curtismn31 yeah man Falcons being greedy but I don’t blame them Raiders would have been a good fit with Davante there and a good system but Luke Getsy would’ve been his coordinator
Obviously falcons wasn't being proactive it was all reactive starting with getting Kirk but phenix is a quality player.
Atlanta is Eastern Time zone everyone admits West Coast games doesnt get viewed like that. Yeah Penix was putting up numbers but people weren't really taking him seriously. It's just a frequently injuried pac-12 quarterback in the league known for not playing defense .
Up until they actually got a medical grade on him at the combine at the end of February and then went to his pro day in March and then their own private evaluation in April could they make a good assessment on him. Because all you heard was buy his injuries, but his injuries, but injuries.
Guys stop second guessing this pick.Its Mr.Blank decision to make this pick.end of story Mr.Blank's paper
Penix was a very smart pick you forgot Kirk cousins is 37 and coming off of Achilles injury. Aaron Rogers did the same thing and he was injured the fourth play of last year. The jets season was over. I’m not saying they are the same but an Achilles isn’t a sprain ankle…🙏🏾 so having him there for now and or later is very smart look at the jets
So they draft a qb #8 overall as as insurance policy??😶… even worse you draft one that can’t stay on the field himself kirk at 36 coming off achilles is probably more durable than he is
Lies he ain’t been hurt in 3 years….name 1 football player that’s never injured????
Penix is the best qb in the draft.the falcons need a qb to play for next 10 plus yrs.he wouldn't have been available later in draft raiders would have taken him or seahawks.Falcons did the correct thing take the best player when your time comes to pick
Richard Sherman everytime he starts a sentence : ……….i …..ii…….
Everyone slamming Richard Sherman needs to take a good long hard look in the mirror. Your lives are all so perfect? If we all knew what your skeletons are everyone would clown in a major way. Keep it pushin
The falcons ruined everyone's projected mock drafts. And everyone's mad.
If he turns out to be a star none of this Kirk Cousins shit matters
If he turns out to not be a star, everyone involved should be fired.
Penix had 2 ACL tears in 3 years witch makes him a liability but Kirk torn Achilles hmmm guess Atlanta is becoming the new Cleveland with their decision making
They didnt make the right decision. Sherm just said it, they had multiple holes on there team to fill🤔🤔🤔
Dallas turner was the best available for ATL to take . Turner would’ve made atl deadly .
Boy you smoking crack! Bralen Trice is way better than Dallas somebody forgot his name 🤔
No he wouldn’t, like Key said the Falcons were not one player away from the Super Bowl so it didn’t matter who they drafted. The whole basis for the criticism is the money but who do they have to pay in the next couple of years?
Dallas who? 🤔💀
No... media was trying hard to make him out be Will Anderson Jr or Nolan Smith...he wasn't even the first edge picked.
He's 24 and they are saying he could sit till he's 25 or 26. That's when most guys are signing their 2nd deal. It's unfair to Penix if you ask me.
Richard Sherman look drunk as hell
Sherm is great
Franchise quarterback are much harder to find than edge rushers or any other positions
Everybody mad cause the falcons got him!
Hmmmmm sherm doesn’t know why penix wasn’t taken in the top 5 but wonders why the falcons choose him at 8… make it make sense folks!!!
The Falcons aren’t one top defensive player away from the Super Bowl, but they are one top defensive player FURTHER away from a Super Bowl.
What QB was available after pick 20? The league is changing… the value of the QB in the draft is skyrocketed bc the price of a QB is so high.
Lol might not think key speaks sense most of the time but i agree with him on this.
KEY!!!! You need to fire your barber. ASAP!!!
Truth is My falcons did right period. Everybody really hating cuz we now have a great young team. Def stepped up it was jus Qb play holding us back. Plus people forget we have no back up n cousins waznt a forever qb move
Just like what happened in this with Sherm, it makes complete sense if you sit and think about it. Going all in to win a QB with Kirk or secure your future for the next decade. It’s an easy decision. Kirk is the stabilizer, Penix will step in when the roster is more complete and take them over the top.
I second your opinion if no one else does🥳
How do they know Cousins won’t get injured
Atlanta has enough to win the NFC south. The winner of the division played in the NFC championship. I like their chance win the division and be a top 10 offense. Another safety will be added somehow and i can see a 11-6 season.
So why not add another impact player and have a 13-4 season and make a super bowl run?
@LionelLordOfTheThundercats 11-6...13-4. I don't think it would matter much. I just saw Tampa be a few mistakes from playing in the Super Bowl. Coaching should make this defense more than viable enough to win the division. Get another safety before mid-season and I'll agree that 13-4 could be possible.
@@iamsupa8239 13-4 means we are better, gives us a chance at home field in the playoffs, and makes us good enough to compete with KC. Arthur Smith was a bad coach, but his slow ball control offense hid how bad this defense really is. We were last place in pass rush win rate and turnovers. We don't have the players to have a good defense. Plus we don't have the weapons that Minnesota had when Kirk was putting up those numbers. We needed that 8th pick to be an impact player.
Penix was a great pick for ATL anybody that has a problem with it don’t know shit about football bro. Penix is that guy he will be better than Kirk.. Kirk is not good plus he’s coming off an injury. Don’t be surprised if Kirk is traded soon
I think Kirk is above average but you right about Penix. I believe he'll see the field sooner rather than later.
Ennis "Raker" Penix
rare segment where key spitting tbh
No he’s not
KeyShawn is a greedy GM,period.People simply asking why didn't you invest in Kirk as much as possible.Its funny how Keyshawn could easily be right tho lol.
I clicked just to see is really sherm 😂
I think we could look back and think that was genius move could get a lot of value out of penix or cousins in a trade
We can't trade Cousins, he has a no trade clause and all his money is guaranteed until 2026