I Brought Halo 2's Cut Flood Juggernaut Back Into The Campaign!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ส.ค. 2024
- Salutations! With the release of the mod tools for the Master Chief Collection version of Halo 2, the modding community for this game is now capable of doing so much more with the game than they’ve ever been in the past. One of these new abilities is proper tag injection into other levels, and as you can see from the title of this video, this means The Flood Juggernaut can finally inhabit other Campaign levels besides High Charity. Let's dive in to all this Halo 2 cut content!
00:00 Intro
03:58 The Encounters
18:20 Outro
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Good now restore the cut halo CE battle royal mode
I'm so thankful for this 🙏 I was waiting for something like this since i touched halo 2. This makes it feel more like a H2C Deleted Scenes/Uncut type. Please consider restoring more halo 2 cut content would you be interested. I'm playing this in my replay for sure.
More than anything this makes me realize how simple the AI in these games are vs neural networks and procedural animation used with eachother.
I love videos like this. Very cool to see a side of Halo 2 I never have before. A lot of these encounters would have been so cool
Thank you, The Acting Male
Holy crap my boy Actman is here!!...
Yo,Act Man, I'm a big fan,was wondering if you would consider trying to collaborate with some of the other prominent Halo content creators and do a smaller version of Spartan Masters?Just an idea, would like to see it.
I love juggernaut
Flood juggernaut is king
I always assumed the Spec Ops Elites were referring to the Flood as a whole when slaughtering the Heretics. Interesting how it was supposed to be the actual Juggernaut.
I thought the same. It made sense to me that they'd refer to 'the parasite' collectively as 'it'.
Could also be that they just couldn't tell there were multiple since the floor was opaque - the player knows because like halfjaw they've "smelt it before" but the npcs wouldn't have that context.
Also the fact the chapter in the black letterbox also is labeled Juggernaut
I love how Halfjaw just flat out went to space for 5 seconds in his Juggernaut scenario
Mans really just ASCENDED
"Go Arbiter, I'll follow when reinforcements arrive"
@@robcowboy2713 in like 3-4 missions
As he is getting eaten and slaughtered
Anti infection plot armour works in mysterious ways
Seeing a Juggernaut blinking its eye which happens to be an oversized infection form has to be the most nope-worthy thing I've ever seen in halo.
Actually, it's 5 separate infection forms in there, not one big one. I don't know if that's better or worse though.
@@themindfulmoron3790 Kinky...
@@THE_POTATO- sigh
@@THE_POTATO- Ayo 🤨📸
My skin hasn’t crawled this much in regards to the Flood since the Halo 3 wall pimples.
i especially love the way that the juggernaut climbs up, it's a detail so inexplicably cool to me
It has A LOT of personality in the animations.
It's terrifying is what it is. It's like a sea monster coming up from a dark abyss
It's very creepy considering its size, not to mention the slight jankiness of the time's animations also add to it
It’s creepy af and if the jug was in the original flood missions, it would have made them feel less tedious
Amazing video. Happy to see someone finally break this down.
He lives!!!
Edit: Just checked, apparently you've been back for a few weeks now. Heh heh, whoops.
TH-cam made unsubscribe to you weird
Juggernauts are the biggest enemy (without a vehicle) in the game
Implementing a finished version of the Juggarnaut would be awesome just for that unique scene with Rtas alone
You could do it for your rebalanced mod :(
Would love to see you add it to your rebalance, alongside the restored High Charity warthog run!
"It must have a weak spot!"
*gets thrown into Halo 3 by infection forms*
He took the highest ground
There's cut Tartarus dialogue on Quarantine Zone where he refers to the Arbiter finding a "playmate" that I believe is also supposed to play on the last Juggernaut encounter on that level too.
Yeah, I was told about that. Completely missed it ;_;
Yet more proof on how grandiose Halo 2 was going to really be. Bungie really shot for the stars but even though they missed their target they still landed on the moon!
Yeah, it's true. I would have loved to see their full vision realised. Halo 2 has a lot of cut content, including the E3 Metropolis mission. I understand Halo 2's development was under a lot of time pressure
Wait you got that reversed. Shoot for the moon, because even if you miss you'll land among the stars.
5:12
What if they had just kept that in the game? But you never see it again or fight it. Having it relegated to only that 1 sighting, that would’ve been so disturbing and creepy to see a big hulking flood form but you never run into it. Would’ve stuck in the back of so many players minds and they’d be waiting to run into it, a building tension with no release.
it probably would have been retconned into a tank
That's shoddy writing though. See Chekhov's Gun
@@lukerichardson2404 Yeah that’s fair. From a horror standpoint though I think it could’ve been a fun little moment, but you’re right.
Or find it being kept in a huge stasis tank in a room.
It's quite interesting that the flood encounter early in Oracle (in that rectangular space with the windows) and the gondola ride with flood encounters both feel really slow or drawn out as if it was missing something or was intended for larger fights.
It could've been scary if even fewer enemies were present to build up anticipation for the Juggernaut, kind of like how the Guilty Spark level's first half played out. Descending into the bowels of the facility while only facing a few sentinels and heretics
Halo 2 would have been an even more terrifying experience in the Flood levels with the Juggernauts! A missed opportunity and unfortunate this was cut.
I loved this. I always wanted to see if maybe someone could inject the Juggernauts back into H2 and you have completely blown me away. Thank you. Now all you need to do is re-add the cut Warthog Runs on Cairo Station and High Charity and H2 will be (as Jeff Steitzer would put it) PERFECT! 😂🤣😂
It would be awesome if someone could also create the Covenant Ship and Forerunner Tank levels. Obviously they wouldn't be exactly what was planned from the game, but it would be cool to see something based on what we know about those levels.
@@staryoshi06 I completely forgot about those. Thank you for bringing that back into my brain! 😁👍
Eh, more interesting sure. Perfect? Nah. I love Halo 2 more than any other game, but I'm not about to pretend that adding yet another incomplete enemy into the game is going to fix all the glaring problems.
@@staryoshi06
I don’t think those levels made it past the drawing board, so everything would be made from scratch instead of bringing back and polishing unused assets.
@@alexanderrobins7497 Yes, I am aware that a lot of it would be done from scratch, I still want someone to recreate the *idea*.
Although we know they at least started on forerunner ship because the gondola reused some of it's geo, and the E3 demo showed masterchief doing the bomb cutscene but without the bomb.
Its a shame that such a finished enemy didn't make it in in the end. Imagine what halo2 would have been if it had had Infinite's extra year of development.
Might have made the Spartans hold the Battle Rifle properly. Jokes aside, it's a curious thought
It would have been interesting to see this scenario and see Halo 2 as a launch title for the Xbox 360
It could have possibly meant Halo 3 wouldn't exist, with the original planned story being finished.
@@tokisugar Would've completely changed how later Halo things panned out too considering the later stuff leans into the idea of the Forerunners not being Humans unlike how 1 and 2 did.
so cool that theres enough data left in the scenario to actually put them in encounters. great work as always
if the Flood Juggernaut would have been remastered in halo 2 they would have looked just like the Flood Juggernauts in Halo Fireteam Raven since the flood models in halo 2 were also put in fireteam raven. would be cool if someone did that
Honestly it's a real shame we never got it in the game. Even with 343 adding cut content to MCC we still haven't gotten anything for campaign.
Would have been nice to see the Juggernaut in Halo 2, the cut Flood Forms for 3 and the Guardian
The flood juggernaut is nightmare fuel it would of made Halo 2 more creepy I wish it never got cut because I like Sci Fi horror movies and games like Alien.
Now we just need proper custom map support that doesn't require you to replace other maps.
Man, this is cool. Halo 2 is my favourite campaign, but the arbiter levels always felt lacking compared to chief levels. This would have added so much more to the arby levels! And the chance to shoot humans from an elite perspective, wow!
As someone who doesn't have a clue about modding i'd like to ask, would it be possible to "finish" the juggernaut? (Fix its hitboxes, give it an actual death animation etc).
We have the tools to do so, but these sorts of things require a lot of work, an undertaking that most wouldn't do.
Yes but it is a lot of work
I still want to learn the mod tools, myself. It'd be a lot of work, but one of the first things I'd want to do is a flood overhaul, including a finished Juggernaut. I just need to learn the tools and the Halo engine.
Athelios A.I. battles found an easy way by borrowing other death animations his Juggernauts specifically explode into standard combat forms like incubators but that more salad dressing then an actual fix
Ask Black Dimund. His H2 warthog run has a death animation for Juggy.
The inclusion of the Juggernaut on quarantine zone really does make it feel like a 10,000 year war is being waged. The juggernauts climbing from the depths while the big daddy sentinel descends from that shaft to do battle while you're caught in the middle makes it feel epic in a way the vanilla level came up short of being.
I'm considering making some animations for the Juggernaut in my free time. Might upload them to Nexus for other modders to use.
Amazing. This is without a doubt the most conclusive video on this topic. Feels good to finally have some answers.
Cut content getting restored has always been fascinating to see, I really do hope you do more videos like this in the future considering just how much stuff was cut from Halo 2 during its troubled development period.
Love how active all the halo TH-cam creators have been these days! One of my favourite channels’. Glad Halo is back!!
1 year old but the video never gets old. I love the flood juggernaut.
This video was incredible, through and through. It’s super cool seeing them reimplemented into the game. I had no idea there was so much to the Flood Juggernauts. I knew it’s model existed and it had attack animations, but I actually didn’t know about everything else! It’s so cool seeing them scale walls. It’s also especially interesting hearing all of the cut dialogue relating to the encounters.
Hearing your methodology on how you reimplemented them into the levels based off of remaining clues in the existing code was also super interesting. Incredible work all around!
wow! The quarantine zone one with the marines and rtas’ voice line is really awesome
Your knowledge of H2 Sapien and flood is impressive… have you considered turning the map Backwash into a Flood Firefight map? Could even add sentinel emitters to the center structure to add to the tension, feeling a lot like Halo CE.
I love seeing this cut flood im glad 343 put it back into canon.
After I learned about the Juggernaut that one mission name always stood out to me. It's so cool knowing that that was supposed to be the original introduction location. The entrance's dark lighting and mist effects meld PERFECTLY with the Juggernaut's height too
I really do hope 343 slots in the Fireteam Raven Juggernaut into the files for kicks some day.
Finally, the community can finish Halo 2.
"IT MUST HAVE A WEAK SPOT ARBITER"
*flys to the roof with the help of flood forms*
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
9:30 The commander would help you make your way to the heretic leader on foot
Rtas: *ight imma head tf out*
I love seeing cut content like this, I find it really fascinating! I can imagine what Halo 2 could have been if it spent more than 10 months in development.
Halo 2 was my first Halo and The intro in the mission Juggernaut, looking through the glass floor, barely being able to see through the fog, hearing the flood scary screams and the slaughter of the Heretics, legit put fear in my heart and nightmares as a young kid. They were so damn aggressive, fast, jumped high and STRONG AF. The human combat forms were nightmarish to look at. The atmosphere and darkness of the levels you fought them in were perfect to add how creepy and horrific they were. The ambiance, the scary howls and screams in the background. If Halo 2 had the ability to add the Halo 3 infection form transformations on live hosts, oh God.
18:57 that would be perfect for Fanmade Horror Levels for Halo 2, just have a bunch of completely invisible Juggernauts be roaming the Level(s).
9:05 I must go, my planet needs me
I didn't realize the Juggernaut rabbit hole went so far. I just thought it was the case of the enemy got modeled and animated and just didn't make the final cut. I had no idea it was all pretty much implemented even with AI scripting and orders.
it would be so easy for 343 to add elite armors in halo 2. There's at least 4 that I know, Combat, Ranger, Honor Guard and Councilor.
This is amazing, I love seeing cut content (especially from halo 2) but seeing it properly implemented as close as possible to what was originally intended makes it even better.
Awesome work man. This is my definitive version of Halo 2 now... now, if only you and
black dimund could work together to also have his restored cut High Charity Warthog Run worked combined with this!
Man, Halo 2 was such an amazing game on its own, but watching videos like this one, gives me the worst kind of "feeling of missing out", so many amazing details cut from this game from the Juggernauts to the Warthog run
Nice environmental suit ;)
Thank youuuuuuuuu ;w;
This Is the first cut content video from you I've watched and now I can't wait to watch them all. I've always been a huge halo fan so to get a look at what might have been is amazing. I'm very glad you're doing this. Thank you
I like how shipmaster says “it must have a weakspot” and then fucking flies away
The Juggernaut seems to spawn way too much in the campaign for a mini boss.
The number seems about right to me, seems they viewed these things more like being the Flood version of Hunters.
Hearing the Juggernaut "BLINK" was the sleep paralysis demon i didn't know i had to fear
Great work, Love cut content stuff.
Also what a fantastic video, I love the amount of detail you went into while explaining each encounter and how the coding shows the remnants of what could've been an insane enemy to fight in Halo 2 and Halo 3.
This is such a great video. The research is fantastic and it explains weird lines i was confused about as a kid.
all the reconstructed encounters contextualizing specific innocuous details that were all under our noses repeatedly had me like that wee-bey gif
This makes so much sense, that part at the Oracle mission where you fight and wait till the heretics open a door feels oddly empty, clearly this was meant to be the fisrt place you would have fought the first Juggernauth, then the part where you hold down position at the end of the Sacred Icon mission also feels like is missing something, even on legendary there is instances where every enemie dies and it goes quiet before more flood come out, it seems bungie was betting their money on the Juggernauth encounters but they didnt have the time to polish and make the Unit work, such a shame!
Oh that’s what those floating creatures in the glass box at the beginning of The Oracle mission are. They’re little juggernaut fetuses.
0:42 that gave me some serious Klay World vibes
Really cool seeing stuff like this. Loved your videos on the CE beta stuff and this was very insightful as well. Keep up they great work man!
Yo this is so cool.
I would love to see an expanded Halo 2 restored via the modding community.
The encounters seem very cool, and that opening scene with the glass floor is SO good. I always thought it was really strange how the elites talk about the Flood like they had no idea what it was when they clearly knew about the parasite. I also wondered why there was just a random unmanned scorpion tank in the back of that area on Quarantine Zone. Seemed weird. Man, if only they had gotten the juggernaut in a better state. It was probably cut because it wasn’t fun and it had issues with its AI. It seems a little janky and weak in its current state. I’m sure the melee attacks don’t feel great either. Could use some love. I think it would be very cool though. I hope you get a developer to reach out and explain some of the speculative spawns you placed.
"Oh it's the Juggernaut (BLANK) ! Oh it's time baby"
I honestly find it kinda cute when he’s throwing a temper tantrum after being shot in the eye
no wonder some of these levels felt empty as fuck at parts lol
That would be nuts to fight a Juggernaut and it's interesting that a spec ops commander would feel pity for the UNSC Marines trying to take on said Juggernaut.
Thorough and awesome work as always
This is super cool, vadam!! Well done, you've brought legend to life!
Makes me wish Halo 2 and 3 had Juggernaut fights.
You know, I can see why Bungie cut them out. Having that many Juggernaut encounters, and how bullet spongy they were, they would've been very repetitive to fight. It would have turned Sacred Icon is Halo 2's version of The Library. Makes me wonder if that was Bungie's original intention and realized that was a bad idea and cut them out. Then cut them out entirely as it looks like they would not have been fun to fight. But from their ideas on how frequent they appear, they would recycle them into the Flood tank-forms for Halo 3. A more balanced version of the juggernaut, can be placed in many areas, and having them transform to ranged units gave them a nice way to take on flying units. Because from the footage from this video, it looks like the Juggernaut didn't have any proper way to take on flying units. Maybe jump high but I noticed they only do that for entrances and not for combat, might make it unfair to the player if they can just jump that high towards you.
Maybe they might return in Halo Infinite in some future campaign expansion if the Flood ever returns, but more realized. Would fit since Infinite has boss fights, a flood juggernaut can serve as a proper Flood boss encounter. Make them interesting to fight and fun to fight.
Thank you so much for this video, I loved every second of ti. You and Bungie made an awesome piece of art.
0:42 I'm wearing headphones and I feel violated for that
This is like a dream come true, no way you did that! It’s amazing!
All I got from this is that Halo 2A had worked-on assets for Flood Juggernauts, and I feel only explicit rage.
Man this is so darn cool, great work as always!
Now that's a work of love and passion 💖 nice going man
Amazing content, I never thought a mod like this would be released.
I like how half jaw just nopes out at 9:08
Your channel is legendary. ☠️ These Halo videos are straight fire. 😎🔥
This is top tier Halo content. Great work as always.
Amazing job Vadam
It may be that in the remake, a flood juggernaut easter egg was planned, and so the asset only appears on the one map.
I disagree. The Flood Juggernaut assets were always loaded on High Charity even during the Xbox days, and it seems like Saber saw those assets and thought they were in the game, until they realized it wasn’t.
Well put together
Really good video man
You have to wonder how a juggernaut Flood form is created. It's very different from the combat forms and looks more like a pure form, but pure forms don't appear until after the Flood has terraformed an area.
Well, actually all you really need is a Gravemind (which can be remarkably small) or an advanced enough proto-Gravemind. You just need an intelligent enough hivemind to know how to make pure forms. The flood is fucking scary.
My understanding is that a juggernaut is a specialized proto-gravemind. Afaik, the original intent was that when you kill the juggernaut, every other flood form in the area drops dead, because the juggernaut was controlling them. So presumably, they're formed in a similar way as other proto-graveminds, whatever that is.
@@Ruiluth A proto-gravemind is what later becomes a gravemind. A gravemind is stationary and rarely movies, while a proto-gravemind is completely stationary.
@@andyfriederichsen I know, I'm saying that since the juggernaut has similarities in function to a proto-gravemind, it may also be formed in a similar way. In other words, we know that feral flood can form a proto-gravemind, which is already somewhat like a pure form, so it stands to reason that they'd be able to form a juggernaut (maybe only when guided by an existing proto gravemind) also, given the similarities.
i really want a fan cut with cut content and levels that would give us more of their original vision.
if a juggernaut were to suddenly board the gondola like that, I'd shit my shits.
The only thing they are missing is a heavy thud sound when they land and the screen shaking
Wow keep this up man this is super cool
This is amazing, thank you so much for this awesome video, and thanks for the shoutout!! ❤
No problem, man! I was happy to include the Artifacts clip! Still an amazing series that I definitely plan to re-listen to in the future! Awesome work :D
Probably the most in depth analysis of the Juggernaut NPC I've seen, almost didn't want the video because of how overused this cut content was. But glad I watched, could you imagine the Mini boss fight in that room on Legendary? Was hard enough with just the waves of ordinary flood units. But was nice to see Bungie trying new things, even though they were cut in the end.
I always wondered what Halo 2 would've been if it had more time to be developed and you're bringing that to life. Thank you
I wanna see the juggernauts just spearing sentinels out of the air with their tentacles
The flood juggernaught was actually meant to be a boss fight if you look at the tag names referring to it as ‘boss’, not a reoccurring enemy. Or maybe a boss version?
They also have animations to board pelicans
I think I would’ve shat myself if the juggernaut was introduced on the heretic level. Just some big ass flood form as a little kind who was already terrified of the flood.
The comment about the eye and going off of some of the old storyboards makes me wonder if the Juggernaut is what took the place of the Drinol/Sharqoi that was cut from Halo CE and was considered for Halo 2 too.
I was having fun making mods for halo 2 for fun and on the map that the juggernaut was found I came across a secret unused area, when you take the elevator up to the prophet quarters before you enter the big door, faze outside the big hall on the right side and up a little and there seems to be some boss fight platform looking area without textures only see able on anniversary graphic's just encase your interested to bring some light to that.
No hablo ingles pero tambien la habia visto hace años en la version estandar solo que en la aniversary se ha añadido texturas tambien en la primera batalla contra los drones veras que hay una puerta invisible y un interruptor de gondola que muchos enfocan siempre he querido llegar a esa area
Man this is the coolest mod ever! Great stuff I'll make sure to download the mod files. :)
This is really cool. Hopefully one day this would end up being part of some sort of mod maybe called Halo 2: Directer’s cut or something
These are fukkin' cool! They must've been cut fairly late.
I have a strong suspicion that juggernaughts were planned to have an attack that either flipped vehicles or outright destroyed them similar to the enforcer, especially with that encounter where one was supposed to massacre a scorpion.
Lol I love how “you” wore a helmet for protection!
i had no idea they could climb.
me and a friend did create a cool idea for a death animation for them if anyone would like to hear