How? She didn't know anything about it and kids do have a very good ways to hide shit from their parents! This is why she can't be a "victim" when she is clearly aware of what she doing and hiding it from her care giver. I'm 31 and I seen sneaky teens back in my day and it's only worse these days. I bet all those girls were saying they are staying at each others house and with everyone thinking they're at one of the 6 girls house, they all can sneak out and some parents just do really think about checking on them when they trust their innocent child.
I think the girl should be accountable to, apparently the girl was chatting to begin with him. Kids can bypass parental blocks. And lie about where the are at.
Keep coddling these kids keep buying them these 1000 dollar I phones,smartphones what have, keep spoiling them giVing them what they want, keep being their friends instead of disciplinarians, keep letting them take their selfies with this hanging out and that hanging out all.,and you will continue to have this behavior, be a parent not a friend
@@richarddupont2338 thanks for speaking up. I keep saying the kids need to be held accountable to. The setting all thar has gone on long enough. Parents put the parental controls on the kids get around it. Stranger danger has been preached at school,internet,t,v, etc. There is molestation and rape, but when she says the ment on snap chat. And they been seeing each other. First time she never said anything it time to hold kids accountable for there actions.
All yall trying to blame this young lady. What you realize is these monsters can pretend to be the young lady's age. And if they decide to to meet up she find out different.
This was so badly reported it left me with more questions than answers. How did the kids end up in this man’s car? Why is this grandma encouraging the kid to reply instead of taking the girls’ phones and changing the numbers? Why did this poor kid not have an abortion pill in the ER after being raped, before it got to the point she miscarried? Did she even go to the ER right away? Who’s watching these kids? What is MDC (always say out the words in acronyms at least once)? What all was this guy charged with? When does the case go to trial?
True, seems kinda suspicious all around. Like you're messaging this person as if you're trying to get dirt on them. Is this being done because you're angry at something they've done or is this just a continuation of trying to make up some elaborate story? It's not a normal thing for any parental figure to coach their child into trying to get a man who supposedly forced himself onto this girl to get some type of dirt onto him.
In the video it says.. the man and little girl met a year ago. So a 12 year old girl was sleeping with a 40 year old man for a year before they got caught. The girl needs discipline too, and grandma needs to be a parent.
@@composmentis170 your response is skewed, a minor can not consent to sex with an adult. Also there is a record of the number he was using for contact so obviously will be easily determined who was helping him contact.
This isn't adding up. Thr grandmother KNEW the child was pregnant and had a miscarriage. Didn't report it. Didn't start an investigation. Then, once she KNEW this guy was doing all these things with her grandchildren, she encourages the child to keep up a conversation with said offender? This makes no sense. Unless there's something deeply nefarious going on.
The Grandmother is as appalling as Guthrie. She enabled and legitimised his behaviour by knowing what he was doing and NOT reporting him sooner. What gets me is she then has the audacity to warn other parents to do their due diligence. What gets me more incensed is she quotes chapter and verse on how to raise kids and how parents should behave, but did not!
Straight up. I did remand time in calgary and Edmonton. the guards would straight up let us know which guys on range were skinners. Seen this one dude get his head jumped on till he shit himself. Guard would just come into my cell and be like so what's up with cell 24. That's Buddies way of saying hes no good bounce him off range
He looks like Joseph Rosenbaum and has the same sexual prefer-... Wait. Never mind. Rosenbaum raped boys under the age of ten... And Mark Ruffalo affectionately refers to him as "Joe Joe" to humanize him. My question is is, where are these kids' parents?
Because probably the teenage grandkids begged her not to contact police . You have to deal with teens to understand, especially grandkids.. Very conniving.
@@starlapercle9575 not a good excuse she’s an adult who’s been a parent before you’re never supposed to listen to a child women like her always ignore it until one of the children gets seriously harmed or even killed
Maybe she wanted to make sure it was done correctly and didn't have all of the information and didn't want to risk anything going wrong or jeopardize the safety of her grandkids? Who knows...
@@cdk1016 She doesn’t have children or other relatives to beat his ass? She’s being really passive about her granddaughter being sexually assaulted and suffering a miscarriage.
This happened to me when I was 13 only with a twenty-eight-year-old and I lied! I said it was a boy that I now hated and I would not tell. Of course I hate that man still all these years later but at the time I was so brainwashed after all I was a sixth grader
He will for sure be pc because of high profile even if he wishes not to be. But yes hopefully someday he will be in gen pop, someone will run that back ground on him.
Why is this grandma allowing her to text him back! These girls need there phones taken away and get them into sports or healthy activity. They are up to trouble. Oh & you can tell by her responses to his text messages she's attached to him. She gets mad when he leaves her on "read" .. She tries to call him.. never blocks him. The parents of these girls have fucked up majorly.
@@johnadams1281Actually, I agree that the girl is obviously attracted to him, which she will later understand when she grows up that it messed up her life, but we don't know who started the conversation because it is only showing part of it. The message you see from her is clearly a response to something else.
#1 - This criminal is sick! #2 - How is he contacting children while is is incarcerated? #3 - The next judge needs to make sure that he will not offend again!
The parents and/or guardians of those kids needs to be investigated and arrested if they knowingly allowed him to take those kids. This is disturbing and I'm curious as to whether or not he's going to trial
I don't have children but it amazes me that parents are giving children access to the internet 24/7 through smart phones. If you need to keep track of your child, flip phones still exist. Phone call and text is all they need.
Eh Modern day, and keeping in touch, its what ever I regret not having social media in middle school since Iv burned bridges and kept on contact with none of them after Maybe we coulda bonded more The problem is people dont raise their kids right,
@@luckylarry88 acknowledge bunch of kids are really gonna meet up and get in a strangers car People should have common sense not to do this or are taught Shit I knew not to get in strangers car that young
@@mollynash2597 flip phones are smart phones as well these days, buddy. Kai OS. It's funny that ya'll think you can stop a kid from social media, considering they're likely far more tech savvy than you.
@@Commin_Cents well yeah the story is about her so she in this no matter what and grandma playing the part pretending not having a clue what’s going on.
This what happiness when unfit parents have children where are the parents sounds like they left the grandmother to raise the 2 12 year Olds. Just sickening and these sick child predators seem to always be free while people with drug addiction and mental heath issues are in prison. The system is so broken and corrupt.
Do you guys think adult who are aware of the relationships or underage pregnancies but fail to inform the police should also be held accountable by law? I’m shocked the grandmother knew this was happening for over a year!
The 13 year old having so much blurred in her messages. I feel like this is a ghetto wannabe little girl that thought she was grown. What he did was wrong but I feel this girl is not being properly guided by her grandma. I've never understood the grandparents raising their grandkids. Sometimes it does work but mostly you get the updated version of the kid's parents. Which if grandparents have custody, they are dead or deadbeats.
The grandma should be held accountable. How the hell are those kids out with a grown ass man??? But then they want to blame everyone else for their neglect and child endangerment. POS parent’s
@@kenclark9888 Holding everyone accountable is not giving the main culprit a pass. Just because one person is more at fault doesn’t mean the people who are less at fault are completely innocent, or that they shouldn’t be held accountable as well. Accountability goes full circle.
@@HelloHello-zf2sv Yeah, even worse. My kids were out in the neighborhood in summer sometimes at friend houses up the street, but we were pretty aware of where everyone was.
@@rebeccamartin2399 I didnt,, I knew ones who did and well by the time the parents picked them up from the cop shop they never did it again . But thank you for agreeing with me. Alot of backlash over my post. Clear back to the first one.
@@wilmorris4225 , what do you want to bet that after allowing her twin, 12 y/o granddaughters to run the streets and become pregnant twice by this pedophile, she already has an attorney so she can file a suit against the county?
I wasn't allowed to have a television in my own room until I moved from Nevada to Germany at the age of 23. My parents bought me my first car, paid for my college, paid for everything I ever wanted and still insist on paying for my things...(I'm 34 now, successful, financially independent, working for the German railroad). (I also was never allowed to watch South Park, Simpson's, etc.) I can't thank my parents enough for how i was raised ❤😎🤘🏻🇺🇸🇩🇪🍻
@@nicksaavedra9046 They tend to prey on people with less than ideal home lives, which is pretty common here in NM. Bet grandma has custody because parents are strung out.
Most likely in protective custody if he was in general population he would not be allowed to use the phone, inmates have their own laws. When he gets to a state facility he is a dead man. He knows it, its why he is trying everything he can to get out. Dead man walking.
Believe or not. People come to visit those bums in jail and give them money so they can spend it on dumb shit like vapes, cigarettes, books (not much to learn in jail besides learn to be a fkn adult). Welcome to the American justice system.
Bro any surviving inmate has money on the books they can't just take all your money when you go to prison your money is still money it's just turned into commissary stamps snacks hygiene products (cigs back in the day) etc it's the only way you will survive prison has it's own system say I want something from you drugs tobacco pruno I'm gonna give you something in return for that usually it's stamps but anyway money is exchanged all the time in prison
Online bank accounts. I.e. the guard let's you use the phone. U use the internet and wire him however much he wants. Guard confirms the transaction and let's use phone accordingly. He has plenty of money I'm sure he had a cushy city job
Sounds like the little girl needs some discipline too.. a 12 year old met a 40 year old and was sleeping with him for a year before they got caught. Her grandma isn't being a parent.
I have made comments to that effect,on the first news broadcast. I really got some backlash. This has gone one to long. These kids know what they are doing. She admitted that they met on snap chat. And now she thinks she could be pregnant again. As for the grandmother, I think the girl lied, saying that she was going to stay at a friend's house. As for the use of a cops phone,that sounds fishy. Was it like a undercover thing ,or did the cop let him borrow it. Most jails have landlines phones and you have to make a collect call. This is going to be interesting when the time comes for trial.
@@anitakristensen4679 why are people so gullible? Shouldn't get backlash for trying to speak the truth and open peoples eyes, that girl definitelyknew what she was doing and lied to her grandma of course... and they get burner phones in prison supplied by guards or inmates families, that's actually very common. They can buy anything in prison.. drugs, phones, alcohol.. etc ..
Some people don't want to beleave what they hear or read. Yes,there is child molesters, bot she said herself that she met him on social media. Little angels. I watch TH-cam news from all over the u.s. Kids 10 years old are getting charged as adults for killing. 14 year old molested and killed his 7 year old niece. Also people just read the headline of the news cast and don't listen to the whole thing.
12 year olds cannot consent. Please focus on the ADULT man old enough to be her father r*ping this child. I don’t care what you say, a 12 year old cannot have consensual sex with a middle aged man.
Why even arrest him? Sometimes you gotta do your job correctly. Turn the body camera off. Drive him and his truck out to nowhere and set him and his car on fire. Then never talk about it.
I live in Canada, not sure how the American prison system works, but in Canada if you go jail for what he went to jail for, he would at the very least get beaten, or stabbed as soon as he hit pretrial.
@@anitakristensen4679 ya.. pretty messed up. Whats more messed up is that a guard let him use his phone to message the girls he accused of assaulting..
@@Dee12327 ya I just got done looking at that on you tube. The guard could be dumb. Or he has the proof, unless the were doing some under cover thing . I would like to see what all comes out at trial. This is not the typical case. And I am watching this from montana.
What kind of idiot would get out at night on a Georgia interstate drinking and driving and that would be bad enough with no one else in the car just goes to show he has been getting away with everything for 40 yrs
It can't be too hard to figure out which scumbag guard, most likely a County Deputy, gave this creep his/her phone to use. Find out and fire that piece of crap. Then toss them in jail where they belong.
I don't believe a guard gave this man a phone and especially with the charges he got? If anything the guards may smuggle phones in for inmates who pay them and that's more likely how he got ahold of a phone.
a 12 year old should barely be allowed out the house without adult supervision let alone not knowing where they are or hang wtf is wrong with these guardians
Yep phones, dating app usage, Facebook usage, gaming consoles, TV, etc. It's ridiculous how someone who is supposed to be receiving punishment for their actions is being catered to like he owns the damn place.
@@ronaldrenegade8519 Hmmm... very good point, that grandmother should be investigated. Sounds like now she's trying to pretend to be the caring main caretaker because the spotlights on the situation whereas before she was up to some sketchy sht like how come she didn't report this guy already and why are all those other kids with him. Why didn't she get that child to a emergency room, get her the abortion pill before she even got to the point where she had a miscarriage all this should have been done through crime scene investigators.
I have an extremely hard time believing that any guard is going to allow a sex offender to use their phone If so this guard needs to be charge. Sex offenders are not allowed in population they're usually stuck in isolation Heavily monitor. I would bet anything that this is a made up story made by the grandmother.
This case is so bizarre. The grandma 👵 knew what was going on. She should be investigated. Where are the biological parents of these children? The guards allow inmates to use social media on their personal phones? What? The authorities are questioning if they should release this predator before his trial? What? 😨
I’d bet my life that this dude is the plug on bars.. when I was their age, I knew a handful of chicks that messed around with dudes double their age. All for pills.
I cant tell you how many times ive been shoved aside by a 25 - 35 year old when i was 12-16 years old, many girls where i live just jumped ship when you run out of pills they call the next guy. or they will just call another guy over when Ur just chilling with them and it's an obvious 10+ year difference. just hang ur head and leave whole they are kissing in the background... yup females
I’m thinking whoever had custody of those girls should be answering some questions on how the heck that dude was spending so much time with those girls
Okay. Where's the mother and father of the child? Answer that and you'll have some insight as to how this incident came to be. Grandmother's raising grandkids generally don't work out.
No offence but how does she take this so relaxed what a person what a grandma my baby well 15 ur old girl if this happened to her would change me into a complete mental cannibal that just eats child abusers my girls just a baby at 15 at 12 I thought she was still in diapers they are tiny baby’s how can a man over 20 ur old abuse any girl at such a young age I’m so upset that people are still doing this if I could stop one thing from ever happening it would be these people
@@sebi2439 there’s an age of consent for a reason. Children’s brains can’t give consent doesn’t matter what she said or did he shouldn’t have been anywhere near this girl and where tf r her parents
The guy Guthrie of course is dead wrong and need to be in prison for life but what the hell is 12 year old kids getting involved with a man, and riding around with him at night, where in the hell is the parents...also how did he get the other kids!?
The grandmother seems completely irresponsible as well! Also, why in the heck is she talking to the media about her own granddaughter. You’d think her granddaughter suffered enough!!! Keep it between the police and yourself! For god sakes, you’re talking about the privacy of your granddaughter and her suffering a miscarriage as an adolescent! I really hope this moron does not have custody of the granddaughter
Ah there is so much anger in this world and it’s not being utilized to end cases like these. This is one case, out of a billion in this country. Kids on social media are being solicited, sometimes internationally, and at worst, locally. Parents, adults with legal custody of children, mentors, anybody relative who can be a good influence in the lives of their family’s youth, PLEASE REACH OUT TO THE KIDS. Teach them right morals, teach them not to hide or fear you, teach them that you’re only wanting to prevent them from suffering the trauma of our own pasts. Restricting phones and privacy on social media is not about power or dominance, it’s the truth to protecting the kids.
Obviously the guy is a scumbag no doubt about it.......But where in the F$%k were these kids parents? where was granny then?? and you know its a strange household look at the language the 12 year old uses texting the guy. Lady it is too late to play granny of the year. That entire household needs to be investigated. Because there is some horrible parenting and grand parenting skills happening in that house.
I don't share my thoughts online often.. He's in protective custody, with the other chomos and pervs. If anything happens to him now, the custodial agency in charge would be heavily scrutinized... But in time, in prison, he will learn more about his feminine side on a regular basis.. If he is lucky, he would be a t.o.s. with a garrote or shived several times. Will pray for the innocent children and grandmother. Makes my skin crawl...
I don’t know what pills you’re on that you’re rambling so much cr@p, but you KNOW this Proud Boy was probably screaming “gr00mers” at everyone who isn’t a Donald Dumptard while he was shacking up with a 12 year old. He SCREAMS Donald Dumpist from a mile away, hypocrite as they come.
If the grandmother is behind the messaging, she just tainted the evidence. As it is, she had custody over twin girls who were already horrifyingly abused and somehow they ended up back in his car. Believe me, I'd be sitting at the D.A.'s office with the DNA of that miscarried child and insisting they do something about this monster before I took another breath. Unbelievable.
Now granny is upset and offering advice?? Where was she the past year Her grandkids are driving around with a drunk man Not the first time They all need to be charged
Im sorry kids .... The government failed you. Where were they? Mission since 2011 get him to look as we wish by constantly repeating manuevers and asslighting him. Ill always be sorry.
Where were the parents when all of this was going on? Possibly to busy with Facebook and other social media platforms? Single mothers represented here? Need to blame the big daddy government and no fault divorces for what's occurring in Single mother households, just sayin 🤔
@@BlueRidgeBubble Really? Your own president Joe biden and his administration have clearly stated on numerous occasions that Putin is to blame for inflation and the high gas prices at the pump 🙄 wow, demoncrats kool-aid of delusional blaming must be a strong drink hahaha
@@ck1abe515 I am neither Democrat or Republican Anyone too far deep into these ideologies is not very smart And cannot possibly have a balanced or realistic view of reality, or be trusted to even have one. Your ideology has become you. As evidenced by the flagrant stupidity of, well, all your posts.
A lot of you people commenting need to realize that a lot of your county jails have the option of tablets instead of your commissary phone these days. You can put money on your account and it can be used like a prepaid internet service on jailhouse tablets but the service is severely restricted. I remember watching TH-cam while I was incarcerated for a weekend...
Well you don't seem like such a bad guy and I'm glad at least you got to watch TH-cam but honestly, that's a luxury that people in jail should not be able to get. Sounds like it wouldn't be hard for the prison to disable youtube they're probably making money off of it..
They shouldn't get anything, but one phone call to their lawyers. Let the family come visit him. Criminals shouldn't have access to the internet whatsoever.
Why are inmates allowed to even have anything. It’s supposed to be miserable and instead it’s like a country club you get anything you want in a place your supposed to be disciplined and punished at.
Note the grandmother is speaking up. The parents of the teen who was with Jeremy over a year is silent. How do you not kn9w your teen 8s involved with a serial pedophile, got raped, got pregnant, had a miscarriage, and continued dating this criminal.
Does grandma have custody? Cuz if she does, she should be held accountable for her granddaughter running free with a 41 yr old man.
How? She didn't know anything about it and kids do have a very good ways to hide shit from their parents! This is why she can't be a "victim" when she is clearly aware of what she doing and hiding it from her care giver. I'm 31 and I seen sneaky teens back in my day and it's only worse these days. I bet all those girls were saying they are staying at each others house and with everyone thinking they're at one of the 6 girls house, they all can sneak out and some parents just do really think about checking on them when they trust their innocent child.
I think the girl should be accountable to, apparently the girl was chatting to begin with him. Kids can bypass parental blocks. And lie about where the are at.
Keep coddling these kids keep buying them these 1000 dollar I phones,smartphones what have, keep spoiling them giVing them what they want, keep being their friends instead of disciplinarians, keep letting them take their selfies with this hanging out and that hanging out all.,and you will continue to have this behavior, be a parent not a friend
@@richarddupont2338 thanks for speaking up. I keep saying the kids need to be held accountable to. The setting all thar has gone on long enough. Parents put the parental controls on the kids get around it. Stranger danger has been preached at school,internet,t,v, etc. There is molestation and rape, but when she says the ment on snap chat. And they been seeing each other. First time she never said anything it time to hold kids accountable for there actions.
All yall trying to blame this young lady. What you realize is these monsters can pretend to be the young lady's age. And if they decide to to meet up she find out different.
What’s crazy is a 12 year old in the middle of the night driving around with a drunk 41-year-old man. That’s what’s crazy grandma!
Thank
Well here's one for you dont allow your kids on social media!!!
@@richarddupont2338 you got that right. Kids are smarter than what people give them credit for.
No it's crazy for a 41 yr old to KIDNAPP KIDS. SICK OF THE OLD MAN NO THR GRANDMA.
if grandma doesn't have custody of the children, how is she to blame here?
This was so badly reported it left me with more questions than answers. How did the kids end up in this man’s car? Why is this grandma encouraging the kid to reply instead of taking the girls’ phones and changing the numbers? Why did this poor kid not have an abortion pill in the ER after being raped, before it got to the point she miscarried? Did she even go to the ER right away? Who’s watching these kids? What is MDC (always say out the words in acronyms at least once)? What all was this guy charged with? When does the case go to trial?
True, seems kinda suspicious all around. Like you're messaging this person as if you're trying to get dirt on them. Is this being done because you're angry at something they've done or is this just a continuation of trying to make up some elaborate story? It's not a normal thing for any parental figure to coach their child into trying to get a man who supposedly forced himself onto this girl to get some type of dirt onto him.
LETS GO BRANDON SCREAMERS
In the video it says.. the man and little girl met a year ago. So a 12 year old girl was sleeping with a 40 year old man for a year before they got caught. The girl needs discipline too, and grandma needs to be a parent.
@@composmentis170 your response is skewed, a minor can not consent to sex with an adult. Also there is a record of the number he was using for contact so obviously will be easily determined who was helping him contact.
@@MR.GetOVERiT333 5 month old account your a bot get a life
This isn't adding up. Thr grandmother KNEW the child was pregnant and had a miscarriage. Didn't report it. Didn't start an investigation. Then, once she KNEW this guy was doing all these things with her grandchildren, she encourages the child to keep up a conversation with said offender? This makes no sense. Unless there's something deeply nefarious going on.
Because the gma is trash too. Trash all around here.
Exactly, maybe grandma is the one who approve of this man to her granddaughter!
Sounds like grandma was maybe selling out her grandkid
Grandma approves of relationship
*These days, there usually is*
The Grandmother is as appalling as Guthrie.
She enabled and legitimised his behaviour by knowing what he was doing and NOT reporting him sooner. What gets me is she then has the audacity to warn other parents to do their due diligence.
What gets me more incensed is she quotes chapter and verse on how to raise kids and how parents should behave, but did not!
What a disgusting individual.
Hopefully it never gets out of jail / prison !
THE TYPE WHO ALWAYS MENTIONS ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS AND BORDERS.
Agreed
"it" An awesome word that i also use to describe things like him !
Straight up. I did remand time in calgary and Edmonton. the guards would straight up let us know which guys on range were skinners. Seen this one dude get his head jumped on till he shit himself. Guard would just come into my cell and be like so what's up with cell 24. That's Buddies way of saying hes no good bounce him off range
He looks like Joseph Rosenbaum and has the same sexual prefer-... Wait. Never mind. Rosenbaum raped boys under the age of ten... And Mark Ruffalo affectionately refers to him as "Joe Joe" to humanize him.
My question is is, where are these kids' parents?
Why is this dude allowed to have a cell phone in prison?
In the video they said the grandma asked that and he said he paid a guard to use his phone.
It’s called whte privilege.
The guard probably has a burner phone he rents out to the inmates
Wrong corrections officers can’t take in their phone in the jail
@@chargex1176 oh yes they can... This is 🇺🇸. The CO's are the ones bringing in most of the contraband!
Where's the mother ??? Where's the father??
If grandma has them mom must be out the picture.
In the streets.
unfortunately, not every child is lucky to be born into loving, caring and supportive families.
Jesus this grandmother is so righteous. She knew all this a year ago and didn’t stop it ?
Because probably the teenage grandkids begged her not to contact police . You have to deal with teens to understand, especially grandkids.. Very conniving.
Or the parents/grandparents were probably paid by the predator to shut up. Oil prices went up.
@@starlapercle9575 not a good excuse she’s an adult who’s been a parent before you’re never supposed to listen to a child women like her always ignore it until one of the children gets seriously harmed or even killed
Maybe she wanted to make sure it was done correctly and didn't have all of the information and didn't want to risk anything going wrong or jeopardize the safety of her grandkids? Who knows...
@@cdk1016 She doesn’t have children or other relatives to beat his ass? She’s being really passive about her granddaughter being sexually assaulted and suffering a miscarriage.
Well why didn't the grandma file charges when she miscarried
Exactly... she knew.
This happened to me when I was 13 only with a twenty-eight-year-old and I lied! I said it was a boy that I now hated and I would not tell. Of course I hate that man still all these years later but at the time I was so brainwashed after all I was a sixth grader
@@rinkle396 so sorry for you baby girl.. at least they didn't know and just look away.
@@rinkle396 Is hard to talk about it but we all been defiant at one point in our lives. This kids need help. I know I needed it in fourth grade.
How can awareness be spread to this kids.
May the kind inmates teach him a lesson he’ll never forget.
He will for sure be pc because of high profile even if he wishes not to be. But yes hopefully someday he will be in gen pop, someone will run that back ground on him.
Yeah right teaching him a lesson they all get along in there and are on social media I see post on TikTok prisoners
Homies are waiting for him with shanks and a broomstick handle.
Every day of his life may he be remembered by them.
Everyone deserves forgiveness
Why is this grandma allowing her to text him back! These girls need there phones taken away and get them into sports or healthy activity. They are up to trouble. Oh & you can tell by her responses to his text messages she's attached to him. She gets mad when he leaves her on "read" .. She tries to call him.. never blocks him. The parents of these girls have fucked up majorly.
Yeah you dont even need eyes to see it
what doesn't make sense is that if you look at those text conversations, the girl messages him first and starts the conversation. The grandma is sick
@@johnadams1281Actually, I agree that the girl is obviously attracted to him, which she will later understand when she grows up that it messed up her life, but we don't know who started the conversation because it is only showing part of it. The message you see from her is clearly a response to something else.
🤬🤬🤬🤬 a 12 year old… the parents should be in jail too… he’s 40
socials ruining usa . they're learning from you guys. they want experience early
@@osasuvhnvxtgbvddheds1601 blame us but y’all shooting up the schools
According to republicans, he should be able to marry her.
@@jennaxoxox4821
Not all of us Republicans think like that
@@southernpride2003 glad to hear it. But you might want to let your politicians know.
So the girls still have their phones after all this??? What a mess
#1 - This criminal is sick! #2 - How is he contacting children while is is incarcerated? #3 - The next judge needs to make sure that he will not offend again!
They use phones, they use the internet
Friend's someone going into prison smuggle cell phones in rectally.
@@bluethunder5694 true they are allowed to go online I don't think they should have the privilege of the internet and all call's should be monitored.
These offenders should never get out of prison, but if they do they should be castrated.
I wouldn't let my dog go anywhere with this psycho looking creep and certainly not my grandchild.
The parents and/or guardians of those kids needs to be investigated and arrested if they knowingly allowed him to take those kids. This is disturbing and I'm curious as to whether or not he's going to trial
Parents shouldn’t be checking their CHILDS social media accounts….a CHILD shouldn’t have social media in the first place
I don't have children but it amazes me that parents are giving children access to the internet 24/7 through smart phones. If you need to keep track of your child, flip phones still exist. Phone call and text is all they need.
Eh
Modern day, and keeping in touch, its what ever
I regret not having social media in middle school since Iv burned bridges and kept on contact with none of them after
Maybe we coulda bonded more
The problem is people dont raise their kids right,
@@aninebula6985 The problem is social media
@@luckylarry88 acknowledge bunch of kids are really gonna meet up and get in a strangers car
People should have common sense not to do this or are taught
Shit I knew not to get in strangers car that young
@@mollynash2597 flip phones are smart phones as well these days, buddy. Kai OS. It's funny that ya'll think you can stop a kid from social media, considering they're likely far more tech savvy than you.
Put grandma in jail too, she’s part of this.
Agreed
What about the girl? She was a part of it too.
@@Commin_Cents well yeah the story is about her so she in this no matter what and grandma playing the part pretending not having a clue what’s going on.
This what happiness when unfit parents have children where are the parents sounds like they left the grandmother to raise the 2 12 year Olds. Just sickening and these sick child predators seem to always be free while people with drug addiction and mental heath issues are in prison. The system is so broken and corrupt.
Hopefully they put this dude in a cell with some lifer who hasn't seen a woman in 30 years. So he can be his "friend"
Lol
@@mrhead6856 that's one of the best punishments you can give to these pests. 😂
Do you guys think adult who are aware of the relationships or underage pregnancies but fail to inform the police should also be held accountable by law? I’m shocked the grandmother knew this was happening for over a year!
He can afford to pay a guard to use the phone but needs to ask a 12 year old for money for food?
The 13 year old having so much blurred in her messages. I feel like this is a ghetto wannabe little girl that thought she was grown. What he did was wrong but I feel this girl is not being properly guided by her grandma. I've never understood the grandparents raising their grandkids. Sometimes it does work but mostly you get the updated version of the kid's parents. Which if grandparents have custody, they are dead or deadbeats.
You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink.
The grandma should be held accountable. How the hell are those kids out with a grown ass man??? But then they want to blame everyone else for their neglect and child endangerment. POS parent’s
That doesn’t excuse what that pos did to them. Sounds like you’re giving him a pass wrong
@@kenclark9888 defending the child molester and blaming the victims is an American pastime.
@@kenclark9888 Holding everyone accountable is not giving the main culprit a pass. Just because one person is more at fault doesn’t mean the people who are less at fault are completely innocent, or that they shouldn’t be held accountable as well. Accountability goes full circle.
@MY YT What do you mean everyone involved are adults??
@MY YT explain yourself buddy, before i call someone
So she knows that the girl got pregnant and miscarried a year ago but this is the first she’s heard of anything?
TO BUSY BEING A TRUMPER IS TIME CONSUMING
@@MR.GetOVERiT333 "Trumpers" aren't druggies that let their 12 year old kids run around and do anything they want... that's liberals.
@@MR.GetOVERiT333 do you even know the difference in a conservative and a liberal 🤣
@@blakehicks7210 yea, your daughter is a liberal while your ex wife left you for a blacks for trump conservative. 🙄 duh
@@MR.GetOVERiT333 I have enough time to have a good job, a side business, a $600k house and a $75k truck. How’s your renting going these days?
Awful late for kids that young to be about at night (fully dark, so pushing 10 pm?). Why would she let them out? What about the other parents?
@Celeste Cosimini At 12? You'd know they were out, literally 100% of the time.
Im pretty sure they said it was after midnight in the first video of this.. Im going to go check.. Although no matter the time it's not ok..
@@HelloHello-zf2sv Yeah, even worse. My kids were out in the neighborhood in summer sometimes at friend houses up the street, but we were pretty aware of where everyone was.
What a sick f$&k. I’m sure he’ll make some new friends in prison. The grandmother is no saint.
These parents really don’t know where their 12 year old is at all times?
In a 40 year olds bed.. for a whole year...
She probably said she was going to stay at a friend's house. Susan place.
@@anitakristensen4679 yeah, oldest trick in the book. We've all done it.
@@rebeccamartin2399 I didnt,, I knew ones who did and well by the time the parents picked them up from the cop shop they never did it again . But thank you for agreeing with me. Alot of backlash over my post. Clear back to the first one.
Right.. But its not just 1 12 year old its 2 12 year olds. Both of the twin sisters have been with him..
She is telling parents to watch over their children 's social media accounts ummm it looks like grandma dropped the ball in her own family!!
The grandma is probably looking after the kids because so many parents are on drugs and absolutely useless.
Too busy watching the View
@@wilmorris4225 AAAAh AAh Lol I'm dead!!!
@@wilmorris4225 , what do you want to bet that after allowing her twin, 12 y/o granddaughters to run the streets and become pregnant twice by this pedophile, she already has an attorney so she can file a suit against the county?
To remove the testicles of (a male animal or man). In ancient Rome I believe they crushed the testicles between two stones.
Sex offenders need to be castrated (w/o any pain meds or anesthesia). Kind of like Robert Brooks idea using stones...might make others think twice.
I couldn't leave the house till I was 16 when I bought a car. No cell phone till I bought my own.
That's the product of being raised right. Most of the times these pedophile situations could be prevented if parents would be parents.
I wasn't allowed to have a television in my own room until I moved from Nevada to Germany at the age of 23. My parents bought me my first car, paid for my college, paid for everything I ever wanted and still insist on paying for my things...(I'm 34 now, successful, financially independent, working for the German railroad).
(I also was never allowed to watch South Park, Simpson's, etc.)
I can't thank my parents enough for how i was raised ❤😎🤘🏻🇺🇸🇩🇪🍻
@@nicksaavedra9046 They tend to prey on people with less than ideal home lives, which is pretty common here in NM. Bet grandma has custody because parents are strung out.
I hope the boys take care of him
I hope the boys take care of her parents.
He's texting from the inside, someone hooked him up with a phone. I don't think they're doing shit to him.
In an ideal society yeah. Unfortunately these pests are the most protected in there and for what? Smh might as well exterminate these pests
Who the boys ?
Hold the parents accountable also why they allowing this kids to go with a grown man. I'm guessing the parents know about the first pregnancy
Okay but it's not about how he's messaging her. It's the fact that the facility allowed it to happen.
Most likely in protective custody if he was in general population he would not be allowed to use the phone, inmates have their own laws. When he gets to a state facility he is a dead man. He knows it, its why he is trying everything he can to get out. Dead man walking.
How do you pay a jail guard if you don't have any money
Cops and pedophile go hand and hand.
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Believe or not. People come to visit those bums in jail and give them money so they can spend it on dumb shit like vapes, cigarettes, books (not much to learn in jail besides learn to be a fkn adult). Welcome to the American justice system.
Bro any surviving inmate has money on the books they can't just take all your money when you go to prison your money is still money it's just turned into commissary stamps snacks hygiene products (cigs back in the day) etc it's the only way you will survive prison has it's own system say I want something from you drugs tobacco pruno I'm gonna give you something in return for that usually it's stamps but anyway money is exchanged all the time in prison
Online bank accounts. I.e. the guard let's you use the phone. U use the internet and wire him however much he wants. Guard confirms the transaction and let's use phone accordingly.
He has plenty of money I'm sure he had a cushy city job
This guy needs the damn chair.
Sounds like the little girl needs some discipline too.. a 12 year old met a 40 year old and was sleeping with him for a year before they got caught. Her grandma isn't being a parent.
I have made comments to that effect,on the first news broadcast. I really got some backlash. This has gone one to long. These kids know what they are doing. She admitted that they met on snap chat. And now she thinks she could be pregnant again. As for the grandmother, I think the girl lied, saying that she was going to stay at a friend's house. As for the use of a cops phone,that sounds fishy. Was it like a undercover thing ,or did the cop let him borrow it. Most jails have landlines phones and you have to make a collect call. This is going to be interesting when the time comes for trial.
@@anitakristensen4679 why are people so gullible? Shouldn't get backlash for trying to speak the truth and open peoples eyes, that girl definitelyknew what she was doing and lied to her grandma of course... and they get burner phones in prison supplied by guards or inmates families, that's actually very common. They can buy anything in prison.. drugs, phones, alcohol.. etc ..
Some people don't want to beleave what they hear or read. Yes,there is child molesters, bot she said herself that she met him on social media. Little angels. I watch TH-cam news from all over the u.s. Kids 10 years old are getting charged as adults for killing. 14 year old molested and killed his 7 year old niece. Also people just read the headline of the news cast and don't listen to the whole thing.
@@anitakristensen4679 it's how they're raised..
12 year olds cannot consent. Please focus on the ADULT man old enough to be her father r*ping this child. I don’t care what you say, a 12 year old cannot have consensual sex with a middle aged man.
Where are your granddaughters grandma 🤷🏻♂️ now you know, but before it wasn't important. 🤔
Ummm, how are the girls able to be out at night time without them knowing where their granddaughter is.
That's trailer trash for you
"This is my friend" hopefully he can be someone's friend in jail many times
Hey Grandma! You should not even be allowing a screen in the same room with your granddaughters!!
Why even arrest him? Sometimes you gotta do your job correctly. Turn the body camera off. Drive him and his truck out to nowhere and set him and his car on fire. Then never talk about it.
Parents Check your kids period. Dont be like this grandma.
Something tells me this is a very young grandma
I live in Canada, not sure how the American prison system works, but in Canada if you go jail for what he went to jail for, he would at the very least get beaten, or stabbed as soon as he hit pretrial.
Wow. What if we did this in the US!? I’m almost for castrating rapists.
Same here, did you watch the first news cast when they arrested him with all the kids in the vehicle.?
@@anitakristensen4679 ya.. pretty messed up. Whats more messed up is that a guard let him use his phone to message the girls he accused of assaulting..
@@Dee12327 ya I just got done looking at that on you tube. The guard could be dumb. Or he has the proof, unless the were doing some under cover thing . I would like to see what all comes out at trial. This is not the typical case. And I am watching this from montana.
We canadians are dirty. I work as a prison nurse here before and its crazy
You can also Blame the Republican party for this too
Amen
That guard needs to be jailed too for letting a prisoner use a mobile phone while in jail
What in the northern New Mexico is going on with this case
This just gets crazier. How long until we find out this is a much bigger scandal?
Needs to be national news.
What kind of idiot would get out at night on a Georgia interstate drinking and driving and that would be bad enough with no one else in the car just goes to show he has been getting away with everything for 40 yrs
@@donnycampbell7114 New Mexico
It can't be too hard to figure out which scumbag guard, most likely a County Deputy, gave this creep his/her phone to use. Find out and fire that piece of crap. Then toss them in jail where they belong.
I don't believe a guard gave this man a phone and especially with the charges he got? If anything the guards may smuggle phones in for inmates who pay them and that's more likely how he got ahold of a phone.
a 12 year old should barely be allowed out the house without adult supervision let alone not knowing where they are or hang wtf is wrong with these guardians
You know exactly how he’s doing it. Inmates get phones all the time. It’s not rare.
Yep phones, dating app usage, Facebook usage, gaming consoles, TV, etc. It's ridiculous how someone who is supposed to be receiving punishment for their actions is being catered to like he owns the damn place.
Grandmother said the guard let him use his phone the guard should be fired too
Why should the grandma be held accountable unless she has custody of the girls!
It's NM and the grandma more often then not has the girls. Parents? Addicts and felons.
@@mcasias33 they are texting the dad who's in jail. 😐
Good question
She’s obviously acting in the capacity of custodian. Don’t be a Philadelphia Lawyer.
@@ronaldrenegade8519 Hmmm... very good point, that grandmother should be investigated. Sounds like now she's trying to pretend to be the caring main caretaker because the spotlights on the situation whereas before she was up to some sketchy sht like how come she didn't report this guy already and why are all those other kids with him. Why didn't she get that child to a emergency room, get her the abortion pill before she even got to the point where she had a miscarriage all this should have been done through crime scene investigators.
He's got a face to be admired from the bottom of a river.
I thank God everyday I had a normal family with loving, responsible parents.
Now he is in jail and contacting his victims from jail this has to be stopped please share
I have an extremely hard time believing that any guard is going to allow a sex offender to use their phone If so this guard needs to be charge.
Sex offenders are not allowed in population they're usually stuck in isolation Heavily monitor.
I would bet anything that this is a made up story made by the grandmother.
This case is so bizarre.
The grandma 👵 knew what was going on. She should be investigated. Where are the biological parents of these children? The guards allow inmates to use social media on their personal phones? What? The authorities are questioning if they should release this predator before his trial? What? 😨
I’d bet my life that this dude is the plug on bars.. when I was their age, I knew a handful of chicks that messed around with dudes double their age. All for pills.
Look ,the perp uses drugs to lure them
Stop blaming the kids.
Blame the pervert
You sympathize with perverts, you must be one
I cant tell you how many times ive been shoved aside by a 25 - 35 year old when i was 12-16 years old, many girls where i live just jumped ship when you run out of pills they call the next guy. or they will just call another guy over when Ur just chilling with them and it's an obvious 10+ year difference. just hang ur head and leave whole they are kissing in the background... yup females
I’m thinking whoever had custody of those girls should be answering some questions on how the heck that dude was spending so much time with those girls
The BIG question is where was the grandmother when the kids we with him that night?. Anybody can act all concerned now to show off for the camera
Okay. Where's the mother and father of the child? Answer that and you'll have some insight as to how this incident came to be. Grandmother's raising grandkids generally don't work out.
The text conversation is hilarious
Somethings off about this whole story it’s not adding up I think the grandmother is involved
I'm not sold that granny is as innocent as she's wanting everyone to think.
WTF. Paid a guard?? If that's true. He won't last long in prison
Wait ..she knew she was pregnant by him before??!!!!!??!!!!!! And didn't turn him in???? Something not rite
No offence but how does she take this so relaxed what a person what a grandma
my baby well 15 ur old girl if this happened to her would change me into a complete mental cannibal that just eats child abusers my girls just a baby at 15 at 12 I thought she was still in diapers they are tiny baby’s how can a man over 20 ur old abuse any girl at such a young age I’m so upset that people are still doing this if I could stop one thing from ever happening it would be these people
Because then u go to jail instead of them and u abandon ur kid when they need you most
I would change how bad people spelling is. 20 ur old? WTF?
complete mental cannibal that just eats child abusers- LOL, I mean, right !!!!!
And what would you do to your daughter coddler her as if she had no role to play?
@@sebi2439 there’s an age of consent for a reason. Children’s brains can’t give consent doesn’t matter what she said or did he shouldn’t have been anywhere near this girl and where tf r her parents
The guy Guthrie of course is dead wrong and need to be in prison for life but what the hell is 12 year old kids getting involved with a man, and riding around with him at night, where in the hell is the parents...also how did he get the other kids!?
Life + 1000 years
Will he get 30 years like R Kelly ?
Just goes to show you how "good" a job his jailers are doing. Sooooo no words about punishing the guard who rents his phone out to prisoners?
sense, you're making too much of it. please stop immediately
PEDOPHILE PROSECUTOR LET HIM OUT TO HELP HIM!! THERE SHOULD NEVER BE A BOND FOR A PEDOPHILE!!!!
Who was a party to allowing a grown man to have this much interaction with these young girls??? There is aiding and abetting charges here as well.
The grandmother seems completely irresponsible as well! Also, why in the heck is she talking to the media about her own granddaughter. You’d think her granddaughter suffered enough!!! Keep it between the police and yourself! For god sakes, you’re talking about the privacy of your granddaughter and her suffering a miscarriage as an adolescent! I really hope this moron does not have custody of the granddaughter
Ah there is so much anger in this world and it’s not being utilized to end cases like these. This is one case, out of a billion in this country. Kids on social media are being solicited, sometimes internationally, and at worst, locally. Parents, adults with legal custody of children, mentors, anybody relative who can be a good influence in the lives of their family’s youth, PLEASE REACH OUT TO THE KIDS. Teach them right morals, teach them not to hide or fear you, teach them that you’re only wanting to prevent them from suffering the trauma of our own pasts. Restricting phones and privacy on social media is not about power or dominance, it’s the truth to protecting the kids.
Obviously the guy is a scumbag no doubt about it.......But where in the F$%k were these kids parents? where was granny then?? and you know its a strange household look at the language the 12 year old uses texting the guy. Lady it is too late to play granny of the year. That entire household needs to be investigated. Because there is some horrible parenting and grand parenting skills happening in that house.
I don't share my thoughts online often.. He's in protective custody, with the other chomos and pervs. If anything happens to him now, the custodial agency in charge would be heavily scrutinized... But in time, in prison, he will learn more about his feminine side on a regular basis.. If he is lucky, he would be a t.o.s. with a garrote or shived several times. Will pray for the innocent children and grandmother. Makes my skin crawl...
I don’t know what pills you’re on that you’re rambling so much cr@p, but you KNOW this Proud Boy was probably screaming “gr00mers” at everyone who isn’t a Donald Dumptard while he was shacking up with a 12 year old. He SCREAMS Donald Dumpist from a mile away, hypocrite as they come.
*The girl actually tried to call him though. Not the grandma Lol… Don’t forget she was acting smart with the cops so she’s being manipulative also.*
We do we allow these people to live after they are given due process and a fair trial ?
*Of course the grandmother is taking care of them.. mom is more than likely on drugs somewhere*
He could have hit a dating site or a bar
Where was this grandma when he was getting her granddaughter pregnant?
This is so sickening and messed up
If the grandmother is behind the messaging, she just tainted the evidence. As it is, she had custody over twin girls who were already horrifyingly abused and somehow they ended up back in his car. Believe me, I'd be sitting at the D.A.'s office with the DNA of that miscarried child and insisting they do something about this monster before I took another breath. Unbelievable.
Back in the day the correctional officers would "correct" him for this kind of behavior.
Why don’t you take the phone away from her
Now granny is upset and offering advice??
Where was she the past year
Her grandkids are driving around with a drunk man
Not the first time
They all need to be charged
Denial is more than a river in Egypt.
Im sorry kids ....
The government failed you.
Where were they? Mission since 2011 get him to look as we wish by constantly repeating manuevers and asslighting him.
Ill always be sorry.
He needs to stay behind bars or he will go get a other child
Stories like this remind me of how messed up the US is to ban abortions when the US is full of predators like this.
@Deerheart "atheist republican". Now thats an oxymoron but youre just a moron.
Abortion aka "miscarriage" is how the predator hides his crime.
Where were the parents when all of this was going on? Possibly to busy with Facebook and other social media platforms? Single mothers represented here? Need to blame the big daddy government and no fault divorces for what's occurring in Single mother households, just sayin 🤔
So true. It is everyone else's fault these days. Personal responsibility is a foreign concept in this day and age!
Conservatives have no conception of personal responsibility lol
🇺🇸 Single mom culture
@@BlueRidgeBubble Really? Your own president Joe biden and his administration have clearly stated on numerous occasions that Putin is to blame for inflation and the high gas prices at the pump 🙄 wow, demoncrats kool-aid of delusional blaming must be a strong drink hahaha
@@ck1abe515 I am neither Democrat or Republican
Anyone too far deep into these ideologies is not very smart
And cannot possibly have a balanced or realistic view of reality, or be trusted to even have one. Your ideology has become you.
As evidenced by the flagrant stupidity of, well, all your posts.
"Never thought in a million years this would happen to my family"
... but you knew for a year....so... i mean...
A lot of you people commenting need to realize that a lot of your county jails have the option of tablets instead of your commissary phone these days. You can put money on your account and it can be used like a prepaid internet service on jailhouse tablets but the service is severely restricted. I remember watching TH-cam while I was incarcerated for a weekend...
Well you don't seem like such a bad guy and I'm glad at least you got to watch TH-cam but honestly, that's a luxury that people in jail should not be able to get. Sounds like it wouldn't be hard for the prison to disable youtube they're probably making money off of it..
No matter what he shouldn't be able to contact his preteen victims...
They shouldn't get anything, but one phone call to their lawyers. Let the family come visit him. Criminals shouldn't have access to the internet whatsoever.
He says he paid a guard.
Why are inmates allowed to even have anything. It’s supposed to be miserable and instead it’s like a country club you get anything you want in a place your supposed to be disciplined and punished at.
where's the parents? why is the grandma doing everything
Who is raising them kids, kids at that age not being watched. After miscarriage ?
The miscarriage happened after the incident. He raped her she miscarried
Obviously a grandma that cant handle it, on the flip side I'm sure foster care is a better option. We have all heard the "happy" endings there.🙄
Take away all media phones computers. Don't enable these criminals.
the families honestly just as guilty as that disgusting guy letting them be out that late and not watching who they with
How did he pay a guard. When you don’t have cash in jail? Did he flip him a noodle cup for it?
“Tell Jeremy to eat a honeybun not bread”
Idk why I cracked up over that lol
Note the grandmother is speaking up. The parents of the teen who was with Jeremy over a year is silent.
How do you not kn9w your teen 8s involved with a serial pedophile, got raped, got pregnant, had a miscarriage, and continued dating this criminal.