@@treystephens6166 Why would they need any? They remain inside the harbor, or in the near vicinity of the harbor. They are workboats, not combat vessels.
@@sinisterisrandom8537 Why she ended up in Arkansas is mind boggling. Definitely should have been part of the Arizona Memorial, or near where she spent the majority of her life as a fireboat!!
Agreed. Just rig one up and send it to the black sea right now and see what happens. I mean we literally did that to a crop duster and it's epic. Like let's just up armor the play boat and see what Russia does about it
I saw a little tug like this working with a little pile driver placing pilings around Bainbridge Island, Washington. They're so efficient and versatile at what they do. It's impressive.
I've run some workboats around the Port of Houston that are used to pull mooring ropes. Most of them run the same Cummins and have larger bumpers. They definitely have a lot of torque.
Those are a really versatile little boat arent they?! I dare to call them cute, but theyre definitely little powerhouses. I dont know why the navy doesnt purchase more of them, if theyre such a useful little vessel.
@@JacksonEngineering Robert Alan Design, has designed a training/tug of about that size the BRAtt, in an aluminum or a steel version, the Olympic Drive, was sold to another BC firm, still sold under the Olympic Drives and Equipment name, in 100, 140 and 200 hp models. Best wishes from the smokey North.
At least twice in this video including at 8:36 a boat of similar size to the subject is shown with two outboard motors. And this one is in the middle of the description of how wonderful the inboard diesel high power engine really is. Dark videos do this much more often than they should using filler with non-matching vehicles.
Please do a video about Laffey (Benson class destroyer DD-459). For the commenters please note that Dark Seas has done a video about USS Laffey DD-724 Allen M. Sumner-class destroyer not Laffey DD-459 Benson class destroyer which broadsided a Japanese battleship at point blank range.
Most artists paint warships and tall ships. I do too, but I love painting tugs, fishing, shrimpers and other small boats as well. They are so important but often forgotten. I was introduced to them by a former Navy man whom I met in college. Since then I have really become interested in their history. Thanks for the upload.
"Beavers" are used by the USN to open/close the restriction barriers that surround Navy ships ........Beavers will open a barrier only to boats that have been granted entry/exit...........IIRC the barriers also trap any oil on the water surface.......I often watch San Diego harbour live camers...
I remember seeing a couple of them, or something just like them, on the James River many years ago. They were operating in front of the Dutch Gap Power Plant, moving around some kind of pipes...dredge lines maybe, or some kind of intake/outlet lines for the plant maybe. One man crew, they could turn on a dime and give nine cents change. When backing, they would often pull the stern completely under, then it would pop right back up. Neat little "critters."
I find your statement so interesting & compelling, as far as the reference to your firsthand account at witnessing them in action, working (specifically) on the James River. I'm from & live in NC now but my whole family is from VA, and a few times in the past during my life I've lived in several places there, and still continue to visit & travel to/thru VA to this day. Anyways tho, what I'm getting at, is during Dark's video, I heard him mention places like Washington (state), San Diego & others (definitely seemed like mainly west coast/Pacific Northwest areas), but failed to hear a word or reference to this of ANY kind, of this powerful, tough, little boat working ANYWHERE on the east coast... Which I honestly find quite astounding, to be honest. There are so many ports, naval (as well as other military) installations.. ON the coast and/or with coastal/other waterways connecting them to the ICW & the rest of the world. Most obvious, of course, being Norfolk Naval Base (not to mention the Newport news shipyards & such too), plus Baltimore/DC metro area, philly, new jersey, new york, and all throughout new England, as well as further south: morehead city & Wilmington, NC; Charleston, SC; Savannah, GA; and all thru Florida & the Gulf Coast (alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana & Texas), so again i just found it hard to believe that none of these incredibly, almost critically, useful work boats aren't or weren't really even around. I've always been fascinated & interested in the subject and spent much of my life around water, so it would just be pretty damn cool to actually get to finally see one in real life, especially actually doing her thing. Anyways, sorry to sort of rant I guess, but I appreciate you sharing. Cheers sir
@@spikespa5208 Probably not much. Seaman (E3) or perhaps even apprentice seaman (E2)? You will howver still be refered to as the captain of that vessel, no matter your rank.😂
Little boats like those were once really common on river drives. There small size, shallow draft and flat boat construction earned them the nickname 'Alligators'. This is the first I have ever heard of these small boats.
The log broncs aren’t really shallow draft compared to their length… huge screw enclosed in a big boxy cage hangs about 5feet below the water line. I guess that’s shallow compared to a big seagoing ship .. but they definitely aren’t flat bottomed
@@jeffreypierson2064 Also Puget Sound Naval Shipyard is 2 bases combined into one. The pusher boat that I referring to is at Bangor Delta Pier, not the Bremerton Piers.
This hull in the picture is almost identical to the logging (dozer) boat used for taking boom sections out to the tie up, to be made into larger booms for towing to sawmills.
Okay, okay! Former US Navy Sailor here. It's time for the thumbnail explanation of the difference between a boat and a ship. The short version is: "you can put a boat aboard a ship, but not vice-versa." So these little tugs are BOATS, not ships. The longer version sez: "When in harbor or shipyards, to service the exterior of a vessel, you take a BOAT OUT OF THE WATER, but you must take the WATER OUT FROM UNDER A SHIP".
I got to run one in early 1980’s working in the export timber operation .. crazy thrust .. ours had no cabin , just the wheel , throttle and a direct drive in/out. If you were pushing hard and spun the heel 180 you rotated the prop propulsion 180 also and you had better hang on also about 7 or 8’ draft they look really odd out of the water..
I live in San Diego. I was on a fishing trip and this little tiny boat went past us leaving Point Loma. I said out loud "wtf is this thing?" And then we saw the US Navy on the side of it. We could not believe the US Navy has a use for something like that. Edit:After watching the end of this video, i feel lucky to have witnessed it in action.
In Halifax Nova Scotia in the 2000's the RCN spent millions on what they called the force protection barrier. It only lasted 3 or 4 years because it was too hard to maintain and use.
Thanks for creating a video on this topic. It was new information for me and I really appreciate that. Also, thanks for not using those chaotically moving white lines on the chapter titles as I found them extremely annoying. I really like the way you did them in this video.
In 2002 I saw them in the Hudson River during fleet week or sail op week, can’t remember the exact name but those little navy boats used to zip back and forth real fast, all you noticed after dusk are the port and starboard red and green light zooming across the waters and looked like mosquitos with rocket packs they were faaaaaast.
Thank you for this video. Back in 2005 I have the opportunity to do some work at PSNS, Puget Sound Naval Shipyard, now part of Naval Base Kitsap. I always wondered about this, seeing how small they were. Never really saw any of them in action, so to see this video helps a lot. Appreciated.
I spent 4&1/2 years on two ocean going tugs, the ATF101 Cocopa out of San Diego and the ATF105 Moctobi out of Pearl. They were very powerful and only 205ft long. Wonderful duty except in really heavy seas.
Fishing boats have 300 to 600 hp or more to propel them. I'm not sure where you got your info from, but it was incorrect. I don't say this to disrespect the Bronco boats, but just to point out the obvious error in your story.
I’ve worked on these small boats. That said these boats are loaded with many things. Rigging for divers, a powerful towing drive, capsized proof, it can take a full 360 rollover and right itself. Packed with communications equipment. The hull is almost bulletproof. It can run 3 days on one one tank of fuel at 38 mph. I can understand why the navy hangs onto this great work boat. I would take one of these boats any day. And the new ones are out of this world with all its on board technology.
I used to run one of those little pond boats or log broncs for SDS lumber company on the Colombia upstream from Longview. Made and moved lots of log rafts. Also pushed many barges of chips to Longview Fiber paper mill. Good times
I am shocked that you did not mention who ( as in what rank ) operates these boats. With their small size one would think maybe a Bosun 3rd or 2nd class, but with some of their missions one might think at least an Ensign.
Also known as boom boats, they push bundles of logs at “booming grounds” they feed a log ship logs when loading and assist in building big log rafts where the rafts are floated out too a log ship or barge if the ship cannot access the grounds
Hey, don't underestimate tugboats! Russia'a Admiral Kuznetsov carrier never leaves port without its assugned tugboat. That tug is the most important ship in the Russian Navy.
The title of the video says “… that the navy can’t live without “ and then in the last few minutes you say the navy cancelled an order for 40 (I think that was the qty) new BBs , and there are only 10 still in service. Sure seems that the navy plans to live without them. Also, your own words make it seem that the title was just click bait.
And I'm willing to bet that the crews are proud of their little tugboats. A whole boatload of guts in such a tiny hull. It's unfortunate that these boats are being phased out.
The tug is the backbone of every harbor
Shouldn’t there be at least one defensive weapon on them⁉️
@@treystephens6166
Why would they need any? They remain inside the harbor, or in the near vicinity of the harbor. They are workboats, not combat vessels.
@@bobd9193 right, I mean just in case. You can’t be too careful.
Correct! Tugs are not "navy ships", they are essential port equipment!
@@arnaldopellizzaro3381 they are tiny Navy boats. 🇺🇸
A tug boat was the last Pearl Harbor veteran on the USN to be retired from service.
arizona? still on the active list... though not really very active
@@pezpengy9308 USS Hoga
@@sinisterisrandom8537 Why she ended up in Arkansas is mind boggling. Definitely should have been part of the Arizona Memorial, or near where she spent the majority of her life as a fireboat!!
I still want to see one with a mini gun and two small torpedoes.
Agreed. Just rig one up and send it to the black sea right now and see what happens. I mean we literally did that to a crop duster and it's epic. Like let's just up armor the play boat and see what Russia does about it
You mean like in Battleship?
Like putting bazookas on an L-4 Grasshopper in WWII.
Like a technical on land, a light unarmoured pickup truck with big gun in the back
And antiaircraft missiles.
I saw a little tug like this working with a little pile driver placing pilings around Bainbridge Island, Washington. They're so efficient and versatile at what they do. It's impressive.
They are the unimogs of the sea
Never underestimate the power of the little guy.
At Expo86 in Vancouver they had a boom boat ballet routine which was pretty cool as it showed their maneuver abilities
As being a 'deckhand' on an un appreciated Navy ship its good to some credit to these unsung heroes of the Navy USS Sacramento. 1978 1981
Army mariner here, saw a one of these at Little Creek in 2018
I've run some workboats around the Port of Houston that are used to pull mooring ropes. Most of them run the same Cummins and have larger bumpers. They definitely have a lot of torque.
Never underestimate the appeal..of a little beaver.
I'm with you on that, sir!
Great video, thanks
Those are a really versatile little boat arent they?! I dare to call them cute, but theyre definitely little powerhouses. I dont know why the navy doesnt purchase more of them, if theyre such a useful little vessel.
Chuck’s closed somewhere in the mid 2000’s I believe. Maybe that’s it.
Now it's call Sneeds
@@JacksonEngineering Robert Alan Design, has designed a training/tug of about that size the BRAtt, in an aluminum or a steel version, the Olympic Drive, was sold to another BC firm, still sold under the Olympic Drives and Equipment name, in 100, 140 and 200 hp models.
Best wishes from the smokey North.
At least twice in this video including at 8:36 a boat of similar size to the subject is shown with two outboard motors. And this one is in the middle of the description of how wonderful the inboard diesel high power engine really is. Dark videos do this much more often than they should using filler with non-matching vehicles.
This channel is a content farm, what do you expect?
When my Dad first pointed out a little BB to me, he explained "its like a forklift in the harbor...plus a plow truck and tow truck. Its all "work"."
Please do a video about Laffey (Benson class destroyer DD-459). For the commenters please note that Dark Seas has done a video about USS Laffey DD-724 Allen M. Sumner-class destroyer not Laffey DD-459 Benson class destroyer which broadsided a Japanese battleship at point blank range.
Those beaver tugs are so much fun.
I remember seeing these Beaver Boats in '05. The first on I saw was on TV back in '76.
Most artists paint warships and tall ships. I do too, but I love painting tugs, fishing, shrimpers and other small boats as well. They are so important but often forgotten. I was introduced to them by a former Navy man whom I met in college. Since then I have really become interested in their history. Thanks for the upload.
True story sir, and I'll echo you statement & sentiments about them as well
I can't help but think. They look like rubber duckies.
Thumbs up for tugboat hype.
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There was one in rota spain. I was there 2017 to 2022 and they used it all the time.
Those tiny boats are badass.
I was amazed to see them be the savior mosquitoes.
We see log tugs a lot in Puget sound. I hope I see the Navy version some time.
Keep up the good work at Good Seas. This is one of you most interesting stories.
So cute! I want one.
This a pretty cheery video for "dark seas"
"Beavers" are used by the USN to open/close the restriction barriers that surround Navy ships ........Beavers will open a barrier only to boats that have been granted entry/exit...........IIRC the barriers also trap any oil on the water surface.......I often watch San Diego harbour live camers...
I remember seeing a couple of them, or something just like them, on the James River many years ago. They were operating in front of the Dutch Gap Power Plant, moving around some kind of pipes...dredge lines maybe, or some kind of intake/outlet lines for the plant maybe. One man crew, they could turn on a dime and give nine cents change. When backing, they would often pull the stern completely under, then it would pop right back up. Neat little "critters."
I find your statement so interesting & compelling, as far as the reference to your firsthand account at witnessing them in action, working (specifically) on the James River. I'm from & live in NC now but my whole family is from VA, and a few times in the past during my life I've lived in several places there, and still continue to visit & travel to/thru VA to this day. Anyways tho, what I'm getting at, is during Dark's video, I heard him mention places like Washington (state), San Diego & others (definitely seemed like mainly west coast/Pacific Northwest areas), but failed to hear a word or reference to this of ANY kind, of this powerful, tough, little boat working ANYWHERE on the east coast... Which I honestly find quite astounding, to be honest. There are so many ports, naval (as well as other military) installations.. ON the coast and/or with coastal/other waterways connecting them to the ICW & the rest of the world. Most obvious, of course, being Norfolk Naval Base (not to mention the Newport news shipyards & such too), plus Baltimore/DC metro area, philly, new jersey, new york, and all throughout new England, as well as further south: morehead city & Wilmington, NC; Charleston, SC; Savannah, GA; and all thru Florida & the Gulf Coast (alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana & Texas), so again i just found it hard to believe that none of these incredibly, almost critically, useful work boats aren't or weren't really even around. I've always been fascinated & interested in the subject and spent much of my life around water, so it would just be pretty damn cool to actually get to finally see one in real life, especially actually doing her thing. Anyways, sorry to sort of rant I guess, but I appreciate you sharing. Cheers sir
And no matter your rank, you will still be refered to as “the captain” of the vessel.😂
What rank would be given one of these to command?
@@spikespa5208 I would think civilian contractors or a Boatswain's Mate 3 and up.
@@spikespa5208 Probably not much.
Seaman (E3) or perhaps even apprentice seaman (E2)?
You will howver still be refered to as the captain of that vessel, no matter your rank.😂
Little boats like those were once really common on river drives. There small size, shallow draft and flat boat construction earned them the nickname 'Alligators'. This is the first I have ever heard of these small boats.
On the Oregon coast in the 80" s they were called log bronks
It just mentioned coos bay Oregon that is my home town
@@brentmiller3951Florence is my home port 👍🏻
The log broncs aren’t really shallow draft compared to their length… huge screw enclosed in a big boxy cage hangs about 5feet below the water line. I guess that’s shallow compared to a big seagoing ship .. but they definitely aren’t flat bottomed
They have an even smaller boat I saw at Puget Sound Naval Shipyard. It is a tiny pusher craft with a very large engine and push bars on the front.
Seen one in person, hard to imagine a boat smaller
I drove both the pusher boat at Puget Sound Naval Shipyard and these Beavers and your are correct it is smaller but not by much.
@@boats7971Is this smaller boat a Navy vessel or a civilian vessel?
@@jeffreypierson2064 It's US Navy, only us BM's drove it during my 3 years there.
@@jeffreypierson2064 Also Puget Sound Naval Shipyard is 2 bases combined into one. The pusher boat that I referring to is at Bangor Delta Pier, not the Bremerton Piers.
I've seen these while on harbor cruises in San Diego. Never knew they have the same engine that is in my truck 😅
Very cool! 👍🐿😎
That awesome little tug would be a perfect addition to our shipyard in the Port Of Oakland, Ca.
Please drop the background noise. I cant watch anymore 00:13 too bad
No rudder but a Kort Nozzle funnelling the wash from a huge propellor, quite efficient.
The legendary one square battleship piece...
battleship: hardcore edition
both team get 2 1x1 pieces
and you lost if you miss 5 shot in a row
This hull in the picture is almost identical to the logging (dozer) boat used for taking boom sections out to the tie up, to be made into larger booms for towing to sawmills.
We use these small tugs to collect all of the wood from the water after we launch a barge. They are awesome vessels.
Okay, okay! Former US Navy Sailor here. It's time for the thumbnail explanation of the difference between a boat and a ship. The short version is: "you can put a boat aboard a ship, but not vice-versa."
So these little tugs are BOATS, not ships.
The longer version sez: "When in harbor or shipyards, to service the exterior of a vessel, you take a BOAT OUT OF THE WATER, but you must take the WATER OUT FROM UNDER A SHIP".
Catch a glimpse of some Army LCU's and Small Tugs at 1:51 and 2:31. These boats are priceless in what they offer
This was awesome!
I saw that very one featured in the video during my tour of the USS Constitution. Remarkable. Pure genius.
Tugs in winter still have to work as icebreakers, at least those with a suitable hull.
I got to run one in early 1980’s working in the export timber operation .. crazy thrust .. ours had no cabin , just the wheel , throttle and a direct drive in/out. If you were pushing hard and spun the heel 180 you rotated the prop propulsion 180 also and you had better hang on also about 7 or 8’ draft they look really odd out of the water..
I used to run one making log rafts on the Colombia. SDS still uses them.
@@guaporeturns9472 I ran it a few time I ran a crane most of the time dropping scaled log bundles into the raft … Port of Everett Washington
wonderful video
I've seen the one in Boston Harbor. It's a Tiny thing, but looks well built.
excellent video of the "bug" a often overlooked essential part of the USN
I live in San Diego. I was on a fishing trip and this little tiny boat went past us leaving Point Loma. I said out loud "wtf is this thing?" And then we saw the US Navy on the side of it. We could not believe the US Navy has a use for something like that.
Edit:After watching the end of this video, i feel lucky to have witnessed it in action.
As a ex Australian Navy man, what a lovely lady she is. Beautiful.
Small and interesting thanks
Excellent. Respect the tugs. ❤
Love your work guys this is an awesome group of channels.
In Halifax Nova Scotia in the 2000's the RCN spent millions on what they called the force protection barrier. It only lasted 3 or 4 years because it was too hard to maintain and use.
YES!
A VIDEO ABOUT TUGBOATS!
LETS GOOOOO!!!
Thanks for creating a video on this topic. It was new information for me and I really appreciate that.
Also, thanks for not using those chaotically moving white lines on the chapter titles as I found them extremely annoying. I really like the way you did them in this video.
Very interesting video of a very small tub boat.
It is a blast to ride on and work with!!!
It's not the size of the dog in the fight. It's the size of the fight in the dog.
In 2002 I saw them in the Hudson River during fleet week or sail op week, can’t remember the exact name but those little navy boats used to zip back and forth real fast, all you noticed after dusk are the port and starboard red and green light zooming across the waters and looked like mosquitos with rocket packs they were faaaaaast.
Thank you for this video. Back in 2005 I have the opportunity to do some work at PSNS, Puget Sound Naval Shipyard, now part of Naval Base Kitsap. I always wondered about this, seeing how small they were. Never really saw any of them in action, so to see this video helps a lot. Appreciated.
So, they are being decommissioned... what are they being replaced with? Patrol boats perhaps?
Everyone from the Pacific Northwest is like, "Yes? It's just a boomboat, what's the big deal? They've been around forever."
I remember when Forestall was at Philadelphia Naval Shipyard in 1983
6:00 that tugboat is used to maneuver USS Constitution as seen beside her.
We need more of these to be based all along our coasts.
Boom boats are amazing to watch when they are arranging logs.
I spent 4&1/2 years on two ocean going tugs, the ATF101 Cocopa out of San Diego and the ATF105 Moctobi out of Pearl. They were very powerful and only 205ft long. Wonderful duty except in really heavy seas.
Fishing boats have 300 to 600 hp or more to propel them. I'm not sure where you got your info from, but it was incorrect. I don't say this to disrespect the Bronco boats, but just to point out the obvious error in your story.
I’ve worked on these small boats. That said these boats are loaded with many things. Rigging for divers, a powerful towing drive, capsized proof, it can take a full 360 rollover and right itself. Packed with communications equipment. The hull is almost bulletproof. It can run 3 days on one one tank of fuel at 38 mph. I can understand why the navy hangs onto this great work boat. I would take one of these boats any day. And the new ones are out of this world with all its on board technology.
Russia: Wait, you mean your tugboats aren't used to drag your carriers everywhere you need them to go?
I used to run one of those little pond boats or log broncs for SDS lumber company on the Colombia upstream from Longview. Made and moved lots of log rafts. Also pushed many barges of chips to Longview Fiber paper mill. Good times
The one pin ship in battleship is real
"Not really their lane" is a very gracious answer to a really stupid question. Good video, thanks for all the hard work.
they remind me of the lock tugs at the Panama canal, they are what makes the place an international hub of freight work
I still believe these little boats would work as pickets. That said, I think their best placement would be with the coast guard.
too small for anything the coast guard needs
Cummins 5.9 inline 6. I wish I still had my '99 dodge.
Tug Boats are Definitely Necessities.
We used much larger tugs (YTB) to move and position subs in Spain back in the 70s
All shapes, all sizes. What did they replace it with?
It's like the meter maid cart of the sea
...🎉
I am shocked that you did not mention who ( as in what rank ) operates these boats. With their small size one would think maybe a Bosun 3rd or 2nd class, but with some of their missions one might think at least an Ensign.
Civilian Port Ops
There are 12 of these at a naval base on rhe patuxent river md. Used for moving booms to pushing the fuel barges to the 3 fuel unloading docks.
I saw this boat. It's adorable.
It's just so...just so....cuuuuuuute🤗❤🐄
I once heard someone call those little boats the USN "Pallet Jack." Not a perfect description but not wholly inaccurate
The USAF has some very similar looking tugs down at Eglin. Don't think they're that small tho.
Also known as boom boats, they push bundles of logs at “booming grounds” they feed a log ship logs when loading and assist in building big log rafts where the rafts are floated out too a log ship or barge if the ship cannot access the grounds
It's still a cool little dude. 🇬🇧👍👌
So what’s replacing these boats?? Or are we just leaving our harbors under protected??
Nothing, Israel needs more foreign aid.
Hey, don't underestimate tugboats! Russia'a Admiral Kuznetsov carrier never leaves port without its assugned tugboat. That tug is the most important ship in the Russian Navy.
LOL That's because the Russian Navy can't keep their aircraft carrier running...
@jeffreypierson2064 i know. That's the joke.
There is one in Souda Bay Greece I used it while I was stationed there in 2011 don't know if still there.
The title of the video says “… that the navy can’t live without “ and then in the last few minutes you say the navy cancelled an order for 40 (I think that was the qty) new BBs , and there are only 10 still in service. Sure seems that the navy plans to live without them. Also, your own words make it seem that the title was just click bait.
This video was just a love letter to tugboats
Ya havent ever seen one of those but the pusher boats i have seen sre used alot at shipyards
And I'm willing to bet that the crews are proud of their little tugboats. A whole boatload of guts in such a tiny hull. It's unfortunate that these boats are being phased out.
What took there place then??
Can say ive seen one personally in Bremerton WA
Pretty sure we have a few of these in Yokosuka and I think I saw at least one in Guam
Looks like a dozer boat , built in British Columbia for logging
Yes, having worked next to log ponds its just the same as those boom boats as stated