Dude, DHH came a long way, from Apple promoter to actually promoting open software and hardware, Framework, VIM, Linux.... nice. This is a vision I can subscribe to.
@@kissu_io He's said in a few recent interviews that it was multiple frustrations with Apple over the years that finally culminated into him giving Linux a shot. And he even says, with a cheeky smile of course, that he is thankful of Apple of making so many bad decisions, because now he is much happier in Linux land and the new ecosystem and community he has discovered within.
So cool. Every other framework creates a cloud offering. The Rails community builds real businesses that want to save money, and that pressure benefits the community.
I think this needs a deeper analysis. Sure, you are saving money on infrastructure, but now your hiring process becomes much harder. And who's going to be managing that infrastructure? The same devs? You are going to need more qualified devs
@@edgardofredz8324 I did a deep analysis. You can just avoid doing anything at all. Just lie on a bed and let people pay you for ploughing through your asshole. Very easy. No hiring needed. No qualification needed.
that's it for me. I'm gonna check out Ruby and Rails. I'm a mainly a frontend dev and this past year has been unbelievably painful at work (next.js...........). I want to feel joy again
Same (Using Nextjs at work too), The moment I use any Backend framework from Nestjs to ROR to Laravel I feel calm and focused on what I want to achieve as logic not the stupidity of the framework and patching Zirilion Library or writing everything from scratch because it's called a framework and nothing is built in it and even the built-in features are the worst of web history, And God save us from their features and technical opinions in Nextjs I never ever saw stupidity like this in my life. Server-Action leaks data. The framework leaks memory. The slowest dev server ever in web history even the Rust version they created is slow and hanging The Rust one for god sake people 😂😂😂 !!!!!! Which drugs do they take to make rust slower than a turtle The image component with Sharp was causing memory leaks. A couple of weeks ago the shipped solution to the server actions and then reverted the solution and when people started asking them for this stupid they played the victim and pointed fingers at the devs. Every time there is a problem with the framework or a wrong technical decision they blame If there were a survey for the worst-ever web framework it would be Nextjs without double-checking. The whole framework and features are before beta not even in beta and they ship them as stable.
I'm was a Backend only developer for many years who wanted nothing to do with Frontend (due to all the shenanigans happening in JS world) but once Hotwire (Turbo, Stimulus) was in beta I jumped back to Fullstack Rails, found a new job explicitly based on the fact they use Monolith Rails with Hotwire and now 2 years in I voulenteer to do all the FE work because I enjoy it so much ❤ So easy these days
I really want to try out Rails too, but I feel like no one is hiring Juniors for jobs in RoR so I feel pigeon holed into learning something like Spring instead.
@@pietime123123 My situation was and still like you too there are more jobs for other stacks but this also comes with more competition, Yes the chance to find job in other stacks with high demand is better than Ruby/Rails -- but i have what you can call "80-20 Methodology" in these cases A: What i love and want to try and work with B: What is the market needs and what is in high demand So my learning time (100%) will be: 80 + 20 80% i will learn and do projects with what in category B which will help me get the job and be in the safe-side of what is market needs 20% invested in category A (Learning what i love and want to work with) which i can add to my resume also because I'm already have a reasonable knowledge I get 3 benefits from this methodology 1- I learned what gets the job because of the market needs, I learned what i love and If an opportunity came in both sides I'm ready 2- Increased my chances to get a job 3- This benefits me mentally much in both cases and made me better at my job stack, how? I work as a JS Full-stack you could say React+Node but learning PHP was one of the best ever investments i did in my whole life i didn't like the lang at the end or even worked with it; But you know waht i learned a ton about how the web works and back-ends more than my whole career in JS from best practice to understand some blurry concepts i never get 100% in JS. To wrap things up: Learn what is needed in your area and can get you the job steal time to learn and work on what you love and want to work with For your case 80% Java/Spring 20% Ruby/ROR Don't make this stops you
Guy was reading from script the first 15 mins, then goes totally ballistic unhinged 37signal podcast mode. That's the kind of keynote I like to see! I went from watching this on iPhone 13mini, and stop mid way to put it on my 40" tv. Brilliant.
I made the popcorn ready and put my cozy pajamas to enjoy him slamming the F words every 1.5min. Wish all the presentations would be from dev to devs like this one, and not from marketing to investors like everyone else...
Today, I completed my first app built with Rails 7.1 after 22 years of developing with PHP! I’m thrilled to deploy it across nine domains and can’t wait to start exploring Rails 8!
Having simpler versions of Resque/Sidekiq and ElasticSearch already built into Rails sounds like a dream come true. DHH is really out here turning dreams into reality.
This guy is pushing mid forties, has 3 kids, is a millionaire and he looks like a 20 something. God bless. I still remember the "unlearn your mba presentation" he gave years ago when he was only 20 something. It blew me away. My manager at the same time was a 40+ something back then and made our lives miserable because he was so incompetent in forcing us to choose lame tools/ideas. Oh well, some people just have it. Thanx for Rails, DHH , by the way. I was able to write a rails app in 2 weeks time to solve a serious problem at my job when all the others had just given up and they were asking for a contractor to do their job for them.
As someone who's been working with Ruby/Rails since 2009-ish... this feels great! WebDev has devolved so much since those days and this is a breath of fresh air.
@@armanrozika I feel you. I really do. As for me, I see RoR taking over the industry in the next 5yrs. Plus, I love the concept of RoR. It can do everything that I want to do
@@armanrozika this is the right move. Plus if you're building a startup, you have to consider the talent pool, and community. You can get a lot further with next.js simply because there are tens of thousands of users on the various discords, forums, etc. all actively using it (vs hundreds with rails), and there are tends of thousands of devs who could join your company (vs hundreds with rails)
We are a rare Chinese team that uses full-stack Rails, breaking through the gap between autonomy and control and policy. We embrace Rails while maintaining strong confidence in our team's future.
The best Production Ready Tutorial Ever! so fast, day 89 my code is done, day 90 8.00 AM starting setup deployment, 8.10 AM is deployed, the rest i can sleep whole day
Im continually impressed with how the framework has grown and constantly improving. Been sticking with Rails for 9 years now and still proud despite Rails not being a framework of choice in Malaysia.
Even if you don't use Rails, some of it's paradigms eventually get integrated to other frameworks inspired by Rails. With Silicon Valley plagued with so many AWS wrappers, it's high time someone went back to the basics of the early days of web dev, where everybody owned their server hardware and just rented out space in a data center. Moore's law FTW.
I've been working in the kind of setup that DHH talks about with cloudless operations, reducing JS packages, leveraging Linux, etc. I am BEAMING with joy to hear similar opinions about this approach, after a merger I was forced to deploy on cloud and it's been a nightmare with the sheer volume of information I need to learn just to configure and deploy a site.
Wow. There is absolutely no world where I'm not diving back into Rails and parking a Pi in my closet to serve something rad for my friends. It's so rare to agree with so many strong opinions on the internet. Also, I hope y'all post the slides somewhere!
I haven't looked into Rails since 1.0 20 years ago. I love every single thing DHH is saying. I will definitely look into Rails 8. And boy, do I envy his hair.
I love what the rails team is doing especially DHH, Proud to say that Rails is the SpaceX of Web Development. With thanks to Ruby the two are the best for SASS apps. Thanks a lot once again to the rails team. God bless you all
David gave an awesome presentation promoting open source and the important 'you can do it' motto. He emphasised that even if things are hard in life or programming, with patience and practice, you can become a valuable asset in your life or work, regardless of the framework or language you use. David's speech gives you confidence, and highlights that even if things are difficult at the beginning, they are rewarding in the end. 🙌
I'm not alone ! I spent 4 days to install my first lamp server the first time. I was like the dog with putty 😅 . My server 3 years with one reboot. Thanks linux, debian
DHH may be using Linux now, but the way he think and speak give me vibe of "think different" Apple under Steve Job: "Hey you, hate soulless crap that make your life miserable? Well, we just created something that we think you will love, because we ourselves love it". I don't agree with everything he says and does, but I can sure tell that it come from passion rather than greed, and this is something I deeply respect.
The most valuable sentence probably underrated from DHH (for me at least): "You are not going to stay that dog, forever. We are not going to let you stay that dog forever, we are going to teach you stuff"
I'm hopping into Rails once or twice a year to write some MVPs and test my ideas. It's an awesome piece of software for doing everything solo and have something delivered after literally a weekend (Friday evening included). The best thing that happened to Rails is the community creating and maintaining thousands of gems that I can easily connect together to have something working within 3 days. That's what I call quality-software and what I miss in Java world where almost everyone uses Spring but there's no community building its ecosystem on top of Spring. We build everything (even the most trivial stuff) from scratch. Every. Single. Time.
"The initial trigger for me to even get interested in no build for Rails 7 was just an infuriating annoyance by being unable to compile Javascript project I had so carelessly left alone for five minutes."😅
Dude, DHH came a long way, from Apple promoter to actually promoting open software and hardware, Framework, VIM, Linux.... nice. This is a vision I can subscribe to.
Finally !
Wonder what made him switch. But indeed better to see.
@@kissu_io dealing with the appstore
The ecosystem just got a lot better. He's not political, he just wants to be max happy.
@@kissu_io He's said in a few recent interviews that it was multiple frustrations with Apple over the years that finally culminated into him giving Linux a shot. And he even says, with a cheeky smile of course, that he is thankful of Apple of making so many bad decisions, because now he is much happier in Linux land and the new ecosystem and community he has discovered within.
dude, yes. if only he weren't drunk af during this talk. -.- what the actual fuck, sincerely.
Thanks to DHH, I have something where I'm pretty good at, enjoy my work and earn money for almost 20 years now!
I am forever grateful.
Are you working with ROR?
@@mahadehasanyt 💯
After so many years, it's still a joy to work with Rails.
I can listen to DHH for days and days without getting bored man
So cool. Every other framework creates a cloud offering. The Rails community builds real businesses that want to save money, and that pressure benefits the community.
Ver *coughs* cel and a certain TH-camr be like 👀
@@markmywords3817 vercel is an absolute piece of crap who make money by scaring javascript developers
I think this needs a deeper analysis. Sure, you are saving money on infrastructure, but now your hiring process becomes much harder. And who's going to be managing that infrastructure? The same devs? You are going to need more qualified devs
@@edgardofredz8324 I did a deep analysis. You can just avoid doing anything at all. Just lie on a bed and let people pay you for ploughing through your asshole. Very easy. No hiring needed. No qualification needed.
that's it for me. I'm gonna check out Ruby and Rails. I'm a mainly a frontend dev and this past year has been unbelievably painful at work (next.js...........). I want to feel joy again
Same (Using Nextjs at work too),
The moment I use any Backend framework from Nestjs to ROR to Laravel I feel calm and focused on what I want to achieve as logic not the stupidity of the framework and patching Zirilion Library or writing everything from scratch because it's called a framework and nothing is built in it and even the built-in features are the worst of web history, And God save us from their features and technical opinions in Nextjs I never ever saw stupidity like this in my life.
Server-Action leaks data.
The framework leaks memory.
The slowest dev server ever in web history even the Rust version they created is slow and hanging The Rust one for god sake people 😂😂😂 !!!!!! Which drugs do they take to make rust slower than a turtle
The image component with Sharp was causing memory leaks.
A couple of weeks ago the shipped solution to the server actions and then reverted the solution and when people started asking them for this stupid they played the victim and pointed fingers at the devs.
Every time there is a problem with the framework or a wrong technical decision they blame
If there were a survey for the worst-ever web framework it would be Nextjs without double-checking.
The whole framework and features are before beta not even in beta and they ship them as stable.
I'm was a Backend only developer for many years who wanted nothing to do with Frontend (due to all the shenanigans happening in JS world) but once Hotwire (Turbo, Stimulus) was in beta I jumped back to Fullstack Rails, found a new job explicitly based on the fact they use Monolith Rails with Hotwire and now 2 years in I voulenteer to do all the FE work because I enjoy it so much ❤ So easy these days
I really want to try out Rails too, but I feel like no one is hiring Juniors for jobs in RoR so I feel pigeon holed into learning something like Spring instead.
Welcome to the club
@@pietime123123 My situation was and still like you too there are more jobs for other stacks but this also comes with more competition, Yes the chance to find job in other stacks with high demand is better than Ruby/Rails -- but i have what you can call "80-20 Methodology" in these cases
A: What i love and want to try and work with
B: What is the market needs and what is in high demand
So my learning time (100%) will be: 80 + 20
80% i will learn and do projects with what in category B which will help me get the job and be in the safe-side of what is market needs
20% invested in category A (Learning what i love and want to work with) which i can add to my resume also because I'm already have a reasonable knowledge
I get 3 benefits from this methodology
1- I learned what gets the job because of the market needs, I learned what i love and If an opportunity came in both sides I'm ready
2- Increased my chances to get a job
3- This benefits me mentally much in both cases and made me better at my job stack, how? I work as a JS Full-stack you could say React+Node but learning PHP was one of the best ever investments i did in my whole life i didn't like the lang at the end or even worked with it; But you know waht i learned a ton about how the web works and back-ends more than my whole career in JS from best practice to understand some blurry concepts i never get 100% in JS.
To wrap things up: Learn what is needed in your area and can get you the job steal time to learn and work on what you love and want to work with
For your case 80% Java/Spring 20% Ruby/ROR
Don't make this stops you
DHH’s keynotes keep getting better. Thanks for all the nice gifts this year too. A lot of us do appreciate them!
Guy was reading from script the first 15 mins, then goes totally ballistic unhinged 37signal podcast mode. That's the kind of keynote I like to see! I went from watching this on iPhone 13mini, and stop mid way to put it on my 40" tv. Brilliant.
I made the popcorn ready and put my cozy pajamas to enjoy him slamming the F words every 1.5min. Wish all the presentations would be from dev to devs like this one, and not from marketing to investors like everyone else...
OK, now lemme put this on tv
Saw this comment 20 minutes ago and I am sitting down in front of the tv 😂
The little wiggle he did on authentication got me
Today, I completed my first app built with Rails 7.1 after 22 years of developing with PHP! I’m thrilled to deploy it across nine domains and can’t wait to start exploring Rails 8!
How do you find deploying Rails compared to a PHP app?
Having simpler versions of Resque/Sidekiq and ElasticSearch already built into Rails sounds like a dream come true.
DHH is really out here turning dreams into reality.
这次5分钟的demo视频，让我再一次感受到了当年15分钟的惊喜。让我迫不及待想回到rails，重拾我之前的快乐，谢谢DHH和团队的付出。
I picked up Rails in 2024 and I am proud of it!
Welcome to the party!
This keynote was just incredible. You guys are the innovators, I'm convinced of that now, and I'll be coming back to Rails for web dev now.
This guy is pushing mid forties, has 3 kids, is a millionaire and he looks like a 20 something. God bless. I still remember the "unlearn your mba presentation" he gave years ago when he was only 20 something. It blew me away. My manager at the same time was a 40+ something back then and made our lives miserable because he was so incompetent in forcing us to choose lame tools/ideas. Oh well, some people just have it. Thanx for Rails, DHH , by the way. I was able to write a rails app in 2 weeks time to solve a serious problem at my job when all the others had just given up and they were asking for a contractor to do their job for them.
This guy is a living Legend!
Him, Yehuda Katz and John Resig are the fathers of the modern web
As someone who's been working with Ruby/Rails since 2009-ish... this feels great! WebDev has devolved so much since those days and this is a breath of fresh air.
I love the formulation: "Cache invalidation of Mental Models" !
I'm moving from Next.js, React.js and JavaScript frameworks because of you, bro. I just started Ruby on Rails and I'm loving it already❤
i am following what the jobs on the market needs, if demand for RoR is the main demand, i will learn it. If not, then it's enough just for hobby
@@armanrozika I feel you. I really do. As for me, I see RoR taking over the industry in the next 5yrs. Plus, I love the concept of RoR. It can do everything that I want to do
@@armanrozika this is the right move. Plus if you're building a startup, you have to consider the talent pool, and community. You can get a lot further with next.js simply because there are tens of thousands of users on the various discords, forums, etc. all actively using it (vs hundreds with rails), and there are tends of thousands of devs who could join your company (vs hundreds with rails)
get some brains sir
By far the best keynote from DHH
One of the best presentations seen so far!! Excited for the new stuff
"Its more fun to be compitent!"
Nailed it.
This is the Best Rails Release in Yrs, i am extremely happy with it.
What a brilliant visionary we have! Love you DHH :)
Ever since I went into webdev, I occasionally watch DHH videos in order to preserve my sanity.
Awesome!! Totally awesome!! Thank you DHH and everyone who has contributed to this release 🙏
Can’t wait to start building with Rails 8! Thank you all who made this happen!
We are a rare Chinese team that uses full-stack Rails, breaking through the gap between autonomy and control and policy. We embrace Rails while maintaining strong confidence in our team's future.
Absolutely incredible work being done on Rails 8. Can't wait to build on it :)
What a journey. I loved this so much. Well done DHH.
The best Production Ready Tutorial Ever! so fast, day 89 my code is done, day 90 8.00 AM starting setup deployment, 8.10 AM is deployed, the rest i can sleep whole day
Cache invalidation of mental models is a hard problem.
@@dominuskelvin off by one JavaScript framework 😁
@@switzerland oooh that's a good one 🤣
Yup, rails is here to stay 🎉
SQLite has been used in iOS and macOS forever, so great to see Rails 8 embracing it again!
SQLite is on a roll TBH. Whether you use Rails or not, SQLite is getting some second wind as needs to be watched closely.
Rails on fire the last few years
Where is the camera for the keynote? Could you please update the video with the keynote? Thank you 🙏
DHH is our prophet 🙏
Thank the Rails team for all new amazing Rails features 🎉
and he looks like a prophet nowadays :)
@@doli797 LMAO
@@doli797he's becoming the Ruby Jesus and growing a Linux beard haha
wow, that was a kickass presentation, awesome new stuffs
Im continually impressed with how the framework has grown and constantly improving. Been sticking with Rails for 9 years now and still proud despite Rails not being a framework of choice in Malaysia.
This feels like the beginning of an era. Everyone is going to copy this just like everyone copied original rails.
This. Vercel quaking in their boots rn
I don't use Rails (yet?), but I'm here from start to end just to watch DHH 's excitement for Rails 🙃
Even if you don't use Rails, some of it's paradigms eventually get integrated to other frameworks inspired by Rails. With Silicon Valley plagued with so many AWS wrappers, it's high time someone went back to the basics of the early days of web dev, where everybody owned their server hardware and just rented out space in a data center. Moore's law FTW.
You are doing awesome work! Keep going, I will also contribute.
Thank you David for your many years work.
I've been working in the kind of setup that DHH talks about with cloudless operations, reducing JS packages, leveraging Linux, etc. I am BEAMING with joy to hear similar opinions about this approach, after a merger I was forced to deploy on cloud and it's been a nightmare with the sheer volume of information I need to learn just to configure and deploy a site.
Great talk, great wake up call for developers!
DHH our Lord and Savior 🙏
* nobuild explained 3:40
* 1M req per sec.9:00
* cost of PaaS 26:50
* Propshaft 39:05
* Solid Queue/Cache & SQLite 41:26
* encrypted cache 46:32
* Thruster 51:27
* Kamal 2 52:30
I don't agree with everything he is saying but he is the Gigachad of Web Development
Embodied Pragmaticity! Thanks for verbalizing all my thoughts!
@railsofficial Can we have the slides? The edit here cuts out the slides a lot...
Upload the deck somewhere and then add “BEEP” to the video to tell us when to change slides.
80s kids know.
Thank you DHH! Now we need more jobs!
Watch it again! It's the one-person-framework. 😀
Wow. There is absolutely no world where I'm not diving back into Rails and parking a Pi in my closet to serve something rad for my friends. It's so rare to agree with so many strong opinions on the internet.
Also, I hope y'all post the slides somewhere!
I haven't looked into Rails since 1.0 20 years ago. I love every single thing DHH is saying. I will definitely look into Rails 8. And boy, do I envy his hair.
Never been a better time to be working in Ruby and in Rails.
You shall not Paas!
I love what the rails team is doing especially DHH, Proud to say that Rails is the SpaceX of Web Development. With thanks to Ruby the two are the best for SASS apps. Thanks a lot once again to the rails team. God bless you all
Thank you for these incredible gifts! 🎁
David gave an awesome presentation promoting open source and the important 'you can do it' motto. He emphasised that even if things are hard in life or programming, with patience and practice, you can become a valuable asset in your life or work, regardless of the framework or language you use. David's speech gives you confidence, and highlights that even if things are difficult at the beginning, they are rewarding in the end. 🙌
All about deploying to the Pi in my hall closet 😄
I'm not alone ! I spent 4 days to install my first lamp server the first time. I was like the dog with putty 😅 . My server 3 years with one reboot. Thanks linux, debian
Awesome, Rails is back🤘🚂
Future is bright for Ruby on Rails ♥
I am so exited by Solid Queue!
Glad to see D channeling Larry David here and there
Finally I found the fountainhead after 10 years from the day I change my career to programming!
Mind blowing, once you understand the cost cutting this brings to an app with all the solid gems
This is a game changer, if accepted by folks
DHH may be using Linux now, but the way he think and speak give me vibe of "think different" Apple under Steve Job: "Hey you, hate soulless crap that make your life miserable? Well, we just created something that we think you will love, because we ourselves love it". I don't agree with everything he says and does, but I can sure tell that it come from passion rather than greed, and this is something I deeply respect.
I've been hesitant to look at Ruby after being scarred by Puppets use of it, but DHH makes ROR8 look very enticing.
Amazing. Time for another epic adventure.
Ruby & Rails Forever!
as someone who is starting to touch rails now this talk was fire
my friend, I dont know who you are but I am picking ruby after this. Ruby is awesome
Incredible version, big thank to Rails team
"The problem is how to GET to the billions"
This is so funny and so true
Absolutely, if there is an app it proves any complexity that was shed was clearly unwarranted.
congrats
Almost 10 years on rails and never switched up 👑
DHH shouting at you in front of a slide that says "CBT" is what a real sigma keynote is
Awesome!!! need to try rails 8 ASAP
we are thrusting to the moon with this one, lads.
Thanks for sharing! Would be nice to see the keynote slides in fullscreen
This guy is awesome !
Watching this and installing Omakub on my spare laptop in the background.
Refreshing to see there is a lengthy tech talk without mentioning AI these days!
make rails great again 😍😍😍
I love the DHH Rants!
Great stuff!
DHH is on fire 🔥
Who uses resque? Where is the love for Sidekiq?
Goated keynote 🤯
The most valuable sentence probably underrated from DHH (for me at least): "You are not going to stay that dog, forever. We are not going to let you stay that dog forever, we are going to teach you stuff"
Thanks DHH
I'm hopping into Rails once or twice a year to write some MVPs and test my ideas. It's an awesome piece of software for doing everything solo and have something delivered after literally a weekend (Friday evening included). The best thing that happened to Rails is the community creating and maintaining thousands of gems that I can easily connect together to have something working within 3 days. That's what I call quality-software and what I miss in Java world where almost everyone uses Spring but there's no community building its ecosystem on top of Spring. We build everything (even the most trivial stuff) from scratch. Every. Single. Time.
Are recordings of other Rails World sessions available anywhere?
DHH personal youtube channel
I am curious what shell or terminal DHH is using for that video
Can we have a version with presentation slides shown?
"The initial trigger for me to even get interested in no build for Rails 7 was just
an infuriating annoyance by being unable to compile Javascript project I had so carelessly
left alone for five minutes."😅
guess I should learn rails. I do love sveltekit but this is pretty compelling
You can use rails with Svelte
DHH is the man!
Nice to see that Primeagen made him famous.
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wow, just wow!
What font is he using for the code in his slides?
First half sounds like a villain brewing to purge the world from tech capitalists 😂. Great Keynote.