The most cheatingist seasons are the ones where the pitcher was expected to rub the ball with mud and tobacco and cut the cover to increase the likelihood of killing a batter.
Robert Willsea it’s insane how the yankees even made it, the A’s besides being a wildcard had the 2nd best record in the AL, and they faced them in the ALDS, then in the ALCS, they faced the best regular season team of all time at 116-46, being my Mariners, but Arizona Ended that run in the World Series, thank god
@@UnchainedAmerica True, but they didn't pitch. Dave Stewart, Bob Welch and Dennis Eckersley were the MVP's of the teams that won three straight pennants.
Barry Bonds didn’t use steroids!!! He ate his vitamins, said his prayers, and he drunk his milk!!! Just like Hulk Hogan!!! Two guys who worked hard, and got big naturally!!!
Scott was accused of cheating in the 1986 NLCS! They collected balls that showed a scuff mark in the same spot. The Mets were scared to go to a Game 7 with Scott starting. They won Game 6 to end the series.
@Rich Affinito My "No Pablos Allowed policy" was referring to the prohibition on short players. Pablo Sanchez's main asset was that he was really short, so every strike was in his wheelhouse and would be clobbered.
Y'know, there's NO WAY that any height requirement for MLB would hold up today. If the commissioner tried to void Eddie Gaedel's contract today, he'd be picketed out of office and easily defeated in court under the Americans With Disabilities Act. Thankfully, I'm pretty sure any decent pitcher today could hit the strike zone, so those types of shenanigans probably will never come into play.
You have to admit though that Pete rose got screwed big time. He betted on games mostly saying he would win, and meanwhile you had guys roided off their asses hitting 35+ dingers still ending up in Cooperstown. I get the ban, but to close the door on him permanently? That's just cold.
On the steroid issue, baseball got a bit screwed. It’s a huge issue in many sports (notably American football today) but baseball’s traditionalism and long held records caused it to stand out.
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Growing up watching Jose Canseco , Mark McGwire smashing home runs in the late 80’s good times . At that time that was one of the reasons to go to a Oakland A’s games to watch the Bash Brothers hit home runs
I gotta admit that this video is so short on facts and long on innuendo that it has basically become a comedy routine about 5 minutes in. I followed baseball religiously in the 80s and there is so much wrong with the points being made here.
In terms of steroids, I always get a chuckle out of the "it doesn't make a guy see the ball better". No one ever said it did, just that the extra strength gained from it turns a warning track ball into a home run, and a home run into hitting into the upper deck of Three Rivers Stadium.😂
I couldn't understand how it appeared as if everyone hit 20-30 home runs I remember asking my teacher at the time and he said he believed that the pitching was weak
That Twins team had to be the worst ever to win a World Series. They had some great hitters like Puckett, Hrbek, Gaetti, and Brunansky. But other than Frank Viola, their pitching was ass. Blyleven gave up like 50 homers that year.
Might just be me, but pitchers using sandpaper or something to get a better grip on the ball would be nice to see some crazy curves. Could risk being hit by pitches in the long run with more people curling them, but would be WAYYY harder to hit. Would make the matchup more fair.
As a Minnesotan and a Twins fan, there is no way in hell you can change the direction of a ball using the AC in the Metrodome. You have just ruined our first world title since 1924. To say that we didn’t win it legitly is complete and utter bullshit
I can still remember all those duplicate Matt nokes cards I had in my baseball card collection when I was a kid (I was born in 1984)...oh and BTW, I had my baseball cards organized alphabetically by team's cities, not by teams names like an uncivilized savage would do
I'm hoping it's true, but I'd lean more to believing that he's just saying that to at least have that one little thing in his life to make him look good since his reputation is in the gutter and there's nothing he can do to fix it.
Don’t know if it’s true but someone from the white Sox (don’t remember the year they did it) said that they cheated by stealing signs using some kind of stand at center field
Only twice in history every home game was won in the World Series? And each of them was to World Series' four years apart where each of them the Twins had won? I'm actually quite surprised by that. I thought since we had over A century of World series that's a lot more than two would have had every home game won. And then the most recent World series in 2019 every victory was by the team on the road.
I didn't know a blown call could cause Jack Clark to drop a pop up, Darrell Porter to allow a pass ball, and cause you to get blown the fuck out 11-0 in game 7. You had your chances and still choked.
When you’re a twins fan and you know that they’re never gonna win a series again even with Kepler and Polanco leading the bomba squad and your pitchers all get hurt at the end of the season :( every year and you don’t have any Money
i still think that pete rose should be allowed in the HoF before he die. betting on your team to win is not that bad. its not like that nba game fixing scandal
Cheating is and always will be a big part of baseball, I guarantee half the teams in the league do something like the astros did. Corked bats, steroids, anything that can curve a baseball, illegal sign stealing. None of these things are ok, but they're never going to stop, and your team has most likely done one of those things at some point. Some teams (like the astros) get more flack, as deserved, but it's stupid to pretend they are the only ones.
Just bc the twins played in a dome where the ball flied means the Rockies must be cheaters to cuz they play in a stadium where the balls fly and so are the reds and Yankees cuz they play in small stadiums with easy ways to hit homeruns
As a lifelong Twins fan, I now understand why the Twins have been cursed to lose every playoff game since 2004. Its insane to think Minnesota sport's only 2 championship wins (that weren't even in my lifetime), are both tainted.
The most cheatingist seasons are the ones where the pitcher was expected to rub the ball with mud and tobacco and cut the cover to increase the likelihood of killing a batter.
Technically wasn’t cheating though
Lol what about the ridiculous steroid seasons I mean that shit was ridiculous
@@cadenr06 it was the dead ball era.
Definitely NOT DB Cooper , it happened though.
@@newerest1 it depends on how you look at it….cuz it was also amazing
"They were probably on coke...not roids..."
Chris DeLisle - Thats why Tim Raines’ nickname was rock
That was the early 80s
That is probably true. The Mets could’ve been a dynasty if they weren’t so drugged up lol.
Arthur Cooperman so true they were young and great cocaine derailed that team
Matthew Heywood also imagine if they kept Kevin Mitchell around and David Cone and Jeff Kent. The mid 90s wouldn’t have sucked.
The vid of Niekro tossing the emery board from his pocket is a classic up there with Ryan vs Ventura in my eyes
A classic
A classic for me was Earl Weaver giving an ump a tongueful of insults.
The 2001 World Series also featured the home team winning every game
But the Yankees World Series possible 4 peat into a 3 peat. Thanks Arizona from a Cubs fan
Robert Willsea cubs are ass
With 2019 being the opposite.
So did the 1991 World Series
Robert Willsea it’s insane how the yankees even made it, the A’s besides being a wildcard had the 2nd best record in the AL, and they faced them in the ALDS, then in the ALCS, they faced the best regular season team of all time at 116-46, being my Mariners, but Arizona Ended that run in the World Series, thank god
You gotta give FivePoints credit for coming up with unique ads for his videos.
As a lifelong A's fan I have to say that, "I'm not here to talk about the past"
Absolutely
The Bash Brothers were using more steroids in combine than the entire Mr. Olympia lineup.
@@UnchainedAmerica True, but they didn't pitch. Dave Stewart, Bob Welch and Dennis Eckersley were the MVP's of the teams that won three straight pennants.
Everyone in Manscaped 690 is gonna get corona.
Or herpes
I second that
Modelo is actually the worst beer ever
“Alien life-form Willie McGee...” 🤣
Hey. That crowd for the Manscaped 690 is CLEARLY over 50 people.
(Hell, if you can't laugh at a time like this you'll cry, so...)
Barry Bonds didn’t use steroids!!! He ate his vitamins, said his prayers, and he drunk his milk!!! Just like Hulk Hogan!!! Two guys who worked hard, and got big naturally!!!
lol that’s a great joke
Xavier Edwards Bonds was a Hall of famer before he roided up.
@@cajunboi4888 and then in just a second with the stab of a needle he wasn't
Hey, it's Minnesota sports. We gotta win SOMETHING!
Scott was accused of cheating in the 1986 NLCS! They collected balls that showed a scuff mark in the same spot. The Mets were scared to go to a Game 7 with Scott starting. They won Game 6 to end the series.
One minor correction: Frank Viola also pitched in Game 4 at St. Louis( took the loss )
🍓 was most definitely sniffing coke during games
Baseball has a "no Pablos allowed" policy and I am sad.
@Rich Affinito are you familiar with Pablo Sanchez?
@Rich Affinito My "No Pablos Allowed policy" was referring to the prohibition on short players. Pablo Sanchez's main asset was that he was really short, so every strike was in his wheelhouse and would be clobbered.
Thought I was the only one who knew
Y'know, there's NO WAY that any height requirement for MLB would hold up today. If the commissioner tried to void Eddie Gaedel's contract today, he'd be picketed out of office and easily defeated in court under the Americans With Disabilities Act. Thankfully, I'm pretty sure any decent pitcher today could hit the strike zone, so those types of shenanigans probably will never come into play.
Pete needs allowed back in.
You have to admit though that Pete rose got screwed big time. He betted on games mostly saying he would win, and meanwhile you had guys roided off their asses hitting 35+ dingers still ending up in Cooperstown. I get the ban, but to close the door on him permanently? That's just cold.
They’ll let him in posthumously
8:38 Can we just admire his cartwheel technique and that he planted the landing?
If only the cheats used in the 87 world series transferred over to MLB the Show.
Personally, I found amphetamines to be more beneficial in my competitive fast pitch wiffleball tournaments
Fivepoints is the Shogun of all TH-cam fuckery. Respect.
"They were probably on Coke, not roids" Best line of the video.
Mike Scott had the Mets scuffling in the 86 nlcs
Stuck at home, binging on 5 pt vids... Did I stock enough microwave popcorn? To be continued
mvp
I always imagine nicking my sack when I see those manscaping adds. Full on PTSD at this point.
On the steroid issue, baseball got a bit screwed. It’s a huge issue in many sports (notably American football today) but baseball’s traditionalism and long held records caused it to stand out.
Doofus steroids are old. Many professional athletes were probably on roids and didn’t even know it.
The birth of the One True Lord, Tim Tebow. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Growing up watching Jose Canseco , Mark McGwire smashing home runs in the late 80’s good times . At that time that was one of the reasons to go to a Oakland A’s games to watch the Bash Brothers hit home runs
I gotta admit that this video is so short on facts and long on innuendo that it has basically become a comedy routine about 5 minutes in. I followed baseball religiously in the 80s and there is so much wrong with the points being made here.
In terms of steroids, I always get a chuckle out of the "it doesn't make a guy see the ball better". No one ever said it did, just that the extra strength gained from it turns a warning track ball into a home run, and a home run into hitting into the upper deck of Three Rivers Stadium.😂
Or allows somebody like Wade Boggs, who only hit 32 home runs in five seasons, to hit 24 home runs in 1987.
And he also forgets the 2001 World Series where all games were won at home.
I can't believe I'm commenting about this but, that was the best ad sponsor clip I've seen 😂
What happened to Albert Belle, Ken Caminiti, Larry Walker, Vinny Castilla I had them in my Squad every Hardball PC game.
Only thing was hitting HRs in Hardball was a rare thing
Man U knew something was up when the twins won the WS( I’m a twins fan btw...)
Of course the year my twins actually win something it is suspicious.... Minnesota sports 😭
As a minnesotan i feel very attacked right now
That Fred Mcgriff hr.... holy fuck
7:57 when you say the series my video stops and my Siri comes up, thanks bud
Who says we don't learn anything from our elders? LOL
10:13 Also happened in 2001 between the Yankees and Diamondbacks.
And in 1991
@@GLee-oe3op the video already mentioned that
Damn that's hella effort for an ad 😂 Respect the hustle.
Lmao the Yankees got caught for the same thing as the Astros
Vilola started and lost Game 4!
0:40 "well the crowd is gathered here..."
wait thats illegal 😂🤣
RONALD REAGAN?!?! The actor?!?!
Then who's vice president? Jerry Lewis?
Why do you keep saying heavy? Is there something wrong with the earth’s gravitational field in the future?
Great Scott!
Love the way you makes they ads for your videos
I couldn't understand how it appeared as if everyone hit 20-30 home runs I remember asking my teacher at the time and he said he believed that the pitching was weak
Fun fact: frank viola went to my high school in the ’70s. There's still a big ol’ banner in our gym celebrating him
I didn't think the steroid era started until the mid 90s after the strike year, but it starting in 87 sort adds up.
I always love the manscapped ad.
Still don't get why Pete isn't in the hall. He bet on his team waznt like he was betting against his team.
In all fairness to Scott, he added a splitter before those season, but still
That Twins team had to be the worst ever to win a World Series. They had some great hitters like Puckett, Hrbek, Gaetti, and Brunansky. But other than Frank Viola, their pitching was ass. Blyleven gave up like 50 homers that year.
Might just be me, but pitchers using sandpaper or something to get a better grip on the ball would be nice to see some crazy curves. Could risk being hit by pitches in the long run with more people curling them, but would be WAYYY harder to hit. Would make the matchup more fair.
Thank you for new sports programming We are going nuts with boredom
As a Minnesotan and a Twins fan, there is no way in hell you can change the direction of a ball using the AC in the Metrodome. You have just ruined our first world title since 1924. To say that we didn’t win it legitly is complete and utter bullshit
So this is not an episode about the Astros?
I can still remember all those duplicate Matt nokes cards I had in my baseball card collection when I was a kid (I was born in 1984)...oh and BTW, I had my baseball cards organized alphabetically by team's cities, not by teams names like an uncivilized savage would do
His rookie season is one of the few seasons Mark McGwire said he was NOT on steroids for
I'm hoping it's true, but I'd lean more to believing that he's just saying that to at least have that one little thing in his life to make him look good since his reputation is in the gutter and there's nothing he can do to fix it.
the manscape ads are brutal.
7:57 did anyone else’s hey siri go off?
As a Twins fan I feel personally attacked.... Also kind of surprised we were even mentioned. Baha
Don’t know if it’s true but someone from the white Sox (don’t remember the year they did it) said that they cheated by stealing signs using some kind of stand at center field
1987, year of the long ball. It was because there was much less than usual humidity that summer.
Only twice in history every home game was won in the World Series? And each of them was to World Series' four years apart where each of them the Twins had won? I'm actually quite surprised by that. I thought since we had over A century of World series that's a lot more than two would have had every home game won. And then the most recent World series in 2019 every victory was by the team on the road.
Baseball has a long history of cheating hence the long time baseball saying...if you ain't cheating you ain't trying
Yep. Cardinals fan here. We also got robbed in 85 bc of a blown call. We still ballin with 11 WS titles tho.
Yallay have gotten screwed with the call, but like the Saints in 2019, you still could have won and just blew it.
Sincerely, a Red Sox fan
I didn't know a blown call could cause Jack Clark to drop a pop up, Darrell Porter to allow a pass ball, and cause you to get blown the fuck out 11-0 in game 7.
You had your chances and still choked.
Nathaniel Levesque Still made a shitty call 🤷♂️
Hey Five are you gonna make a separate nascar channel?
Can you talk about the Bay series and the earthquake
That's such a stupid theory. They go through about 100 balls in one game. That would mean the ball makers rigged every ball they made that year?
Kirby Puckett and Jerry Seinfeld?!? 0:32
Yup Seinfeld led a double life as Gary Gaetti. Every Twins fan knows that.
When you’re a twins fan and you know that they’re never gonna win a series again even with Kepler and Polanco leading the bomba squad and your pitchers all get hurt at the end of the season :( every year and you don’t have any Money
When I was six I made my own make a wish, Paul O’Neil hit two home runs in a game for me. Wish granted.
I have every single one of those rookie cards. The good ole days!
They all did coke. But five points vids you tell the truth. Dam son!
9:27 The 2006 Cardinals won with a record of 83-78
with the exception of 2004 - The Cards were robbed in all World Series that they lost.
Nobody (but the video maker, I guess) calls it “the MLB” - for obvious reasons that I shouldn’t even have to state here.
This should prove how stupid it was not giving the team with the best record home field in the Series.
How did that home-field advantage work out in last year's World Series?
Eric Rakestraw freak occurrence. Home team usually has the advantage.
Accusing Matt Nokes of PED's?!?!?!? Really?? That is silly af.
So you’re saying the hitters got an advantage, then the pitchers combated it, then the hitters got better, then the pitchers got better, and so on.
Cheating and baseball go together like roids and horse racing
And no major pro sports team from Minnesota has won a championship since
Funny how no Yankees were involved in this yet people think all of our titles have asterisks smh
Wasn’t every game won at home in 2001 as well?
1919 was pretty crazy. I remember the day it happened. I was on the 3rd base line.
Anyone notice the scoreboard spells out WOW. 6:30
The LSD pitching!!!
i still think that pete rose should be allowed in the HoF before he die. betting on your team to win is not that bad. its not like that nba game fixing scandal
Cheating is and always will be a big part of baseball, I guarantee half the teams in the league do something like the astros did. Corked bats, steroids, anything that can curve a baseball, illegal sign stealing. None of these things are ok, but they're never going to stop, and your team has most likely done one of those things at some point. Some teams (like the astros) get more flack, as deserved, but it's stupid to pretend they are the only ones.
Can I just get through one of these videos without an ad for pube trimmers
BonerSoup 94 1:53
“The one true lord, Timothy Tebow.”
So, um, who's the model in the Manscaped ad?
Just bc the twins played in a dome where the ball flied means the Rockies must be cheaters to cuz they play in a stadium where the balls fly and so are the reds and Yankees cuz they play in small stadiums with easy ways to hit homeruns
2001 WS all 7 games won by the home team
The year the White Sox went to the Series was the crookedest year in MLB. I stopped watching the WS
As a lifelong Twins fan, I now understand why the Twins have been cursed to lose every playoff game since 2004. Its insane to think Minnesota sport's only 2 championship wins (that weren't even in my lifetime), are both tainted.