Yep. My partner laid off at 52... 2 years later, still nothing apart from 1.5 months contract work. I think hes given up. Life has been shit since 2020. I'm sick of the media and politicians banging on about economic inactivity of over 50s like it's their fault. The employers are discriminating against over 50s 😡
58 yrs old and I got made redundant last October from the e-commerce sector, I was a Senior Programme Manager. It took me until July to find another role but I made the decision to go into the public sector and do a slightly different role where my skills fitted but I wasn’t involved in delivery as it’s soul destroying. Pay is a lot less but it’s not terrible and a lot less stress. LinkedIn is a waste of time as are agencies and other job sites… apply directly via company websites or give them a call even if something isn’t advertised. Try and remain positive, which, from experience is a challenge. Good luck
Good to hear you have your new role. As a career CS, 40 years, working in Digital, about to retire, the constant comparison between private sector delivery roles and public sector annoys me - where the public sector pay/conditions/pension is always raised. I am trained in Prince 2, ITIL, AGILE, member of APMP etc etc, and I know for a fact my counterparts in the companies I have worked alongside in delivering projects over the years have been on almost double my own salary. 10 years running without a pay rise is still a kicker. I'd love to hear your view on the comparison.
I think the key is to maintain your network. Each time I have moved, it is via network, not agencies etc. after 24 years with original employer, the shock of redundancy was hard, and I hadn’t maintained a network effectively. Since then, kept in touch and re engaged as required, and it paid massive dividends
LinkedIn is not a waste of time. I got my last job through it. They found me from a search. I've been a self employed contractor for years. It is really tough if you are the senior manager to take time out as you don't want to be replaced by the temp. It is a minefield as there is no loyalty from the company hiring you usually. Try another career taking your experience with you. Good luck pal, there are many, many older men in the same boat.
I had the same situation till I bit the bullet and applied for a job in a care home. It's tough work but you'll never be out of work again. Eventually, it led me to me working in supported homes and that led me to working in a Special Needs School which ended up being the best job I've ever had. You have to change your expectations.
@@BabyCowGoingmadinafield Better than being on the dole and moping. Should be paid twice as much. You're helping people in need and their families at the end of their lives.
I do that on a freelance basis. I take care of elders or disabled in their homes- it gives the caretakers ( family) a break. Sometimes for a day, sometimes for a week to take a vacation. It’s cash so it amounts to more. Agencies take too much of a cut. I have lots of side hustles. It’s the only way.
I'm gutted for you. Sorry to hear this. I'm up at 6.30 every morning. Indeed, REED, Monster, Find a Job and so on. It's a full-time job looking for a job! It's challenging and can be draining. Best of luck in your search🙏
I am a 54 year old Instructor and Master Barber, I’ve never been unemployed since I studied barbering 30 plus years ago. I hold as well a BA in Business and Marketing and an MBA in Management, IT certifications and pursuing a Google Project Management certification. I truly believe we need to keep learning and have a skill job.
I have an Hons. Degree in Mech. Eng. & have been made redundant 7 times & now live in N.Z. Redundancy can be daunting, but if you search out new opportunities, it can be rewarding. I retired at 60, but still remember the pain of earlier years, constantly starting new jobs. There aren't jobs for life anymore, we need flexible careers.
Sorry you were let go. You are not alone in this; my own life is not much different. This is what works for me to maintain sanity and find some happiness in what can be a stressful time. a) looking for work regularly, but not every day. Looking every day can depressing and results in too much of 'the same thing' b) apply for jobs that are imperfect matches - one never knows what the employer sees - and they may have more latitude than they let on c) go for a walk every day d) read most days, and get the mind away from the internet for a while, and enjoy nature e) apply for survival jobs since its good to keep up routine, add to the finances, and do some networking f) don't be too hard on myself.
I have 30 years xp working in IT. I now work on the tills at Lidl. IT market is utterly flooded with foreign labour. Skills shortage my arse. Rates have tanked and Conservatives effing around with IR35 caused utter chaos. At least working on a till is honest labour.
Interesting, not my experience in the North. Loads of skills gaps still, especially in some areas. Candidates not great, got to look around a lot for the right people.
- IR35 really messed with contracting, true. - Rates stagnate for years now, same rates on the market as 10 years ago yet cost of living up crazy. - There are still roles but you need to keep skilling up. That's super tiring to do as things change fast in IT.
I am the same age and thinking about doing the same with my small pension until state pension kicks in. Worked non stop since 16, not done benefits but getting so tired with work now as it's very physical and I am very tired
My mom is 62 she decided to keep working in her factory job and receive SS -she has the wise decisions my dad made for her… he worked in the railroad industry and for a paper mill- has 2 different pensions, SS, and receives a pension from the military. Also, they help my sister and her husband out by splitting their mortgage so they can be around the grandkids.
💯 in a world where the retirement age is increasing because the aging population is growing, which is a SUCCESS of modern medicine etc, employers are going to need to change.
Yes, even places that are supposed to help are discriminatory. I’m 60 and need to acquire new skills due to disability. I need online/at home study and there’s a total disinterest from the majority, even the careers service.
@@OrganisedPauper I feel your frustration and pain. We all are in the same boat here. I have 35 years of international experience and worked in giant companies. There is no question about the skills, experience or qualifications, it’s just clearly biased age discrimination against 50s plus. I hate to say it but that’s the bitter truth about age discrimination.
Good luck, mate.. I'm 53 and grateful I can still find work as an audio engineer, most of the time. Especially in music, we tend to work within our age group. So regardless of my experience, Who wants to work with an 'old man' according to the kids, lol.. Just keep moving, embrace, adapt and adjust is my mantra.. This is the road you were meant to be on, this is just the beginning of the 2nd half of our lives... Our purpose in this world is to be a witness to the grandioseness of life itself.. Nothing is permanent, get a good nights rest, eat well, and just face the day one at a time, things will get better... My mother passed a few years ago and in my darkest times, I ask her for help and guidance and she's never been wrong.. Namaste..
I'm sure you already know this, but rule number 1 is NEVER, EVER, EVER trust a recruitment agency! In my view, and many others, they are the scum of the earth, and it's just a huge shame that a very large number of employers use them. Good luck finding a permanent role.
Anyone who's older and struggling to find work, start a window cleaning business. After 20 years as a packaging designer (in the UK) and at the age of 45, I found myself unemployable. I was getting interviews but no job offers. Desperate for cash, I started a window cleaning business as a stop gap. Knocking on doors, I acquired 40 customers in the first month. I never looked back. I enjoyed being my own boss and the outdoor work. It sustained me and my two children for 20 years. I retired 2 years ago and gave the business to a neighbour, who was struggling to find work himself. Do a good job and you'll keep your customers. There is always a shortage of "good" windows cleaners. I had so much work, I would give some to other window cleaners. There's good money to be made window cleaning. Good luck.
Agreed. I had a job one summer with my friend’s dad window cleaning business. Just the two of us. I made so much money, for minimal manual labour and I got to sticky nose into rich people’s huge houses.
@@raoulmoat6762 Fair point, but these days you can get window washing poles that are like 40 feet long. I see people using them in my city all the time.
The truth is that the jobs market is shrinking, although Governments like to tell people that there are more people in work now than there have ever been. Ghost jobs creates the illusion that work is avaialble and out there, which results in unemployed people questioning their skills, abilities and self worth. In my opinion the rapid increase of insecure work is a result of Globalisation. AI will also reduce employment opportunities over the next ten years. Society should be questioning why we have record numbers of people going to universities and racking up huge debts, who then graduate and end up working in the gig economy. If people need multiple jobs or income streams just to survive, society is on a very slippery slope. I wish you well in your search for permenent work.
@@pin00ch After searching for work for 18 months, I decided in May 2024 when I turned 58 to take my private pension two years earlier than planned. I really feel for anyone over 50 looking for decent employment and regular pay. Stay positive and keep networking and remember you are not alone in your search for work.
My last job I started in 2000 as Maternity cover, although I quickly found out during the week of handover that she wasn't planning on returning. Within two years the department of four was wittled down to just me. The whole experience just made me determined to escape the whims of others and I turned my mind to self employment ideas. That was 2006 and I haven't looked back since. Life is still up and down but the descisions are mine which in the end is more valuable to me than cash.
I’m a freelancer, (self employed) thats the nature of freelance work…. Jobs come and they and go… often part time, but you can freelance for several different companies at the same time. There are up sides, autonomy, you set your own fees, time off when you want it, etc etc. I like it. Wouldn’t want a permanent job. I can’t work for some other bugger anyway…
I am sorry for your loss of job had all these issues at 56 myself. Positives you have good health and right attitude and all this speaks volumes about you. You can do this really .
Sharing from the states. In my 70’s and retired but before that have been through this. Took me a while to find the job I finally retired from and just wanted you to look after yourself your mental wellbeing. I worked side hustles even while I had my permanent job just to keep my bills current and save for my retirement. 🙏🏻 thank you find the right position and so glad you have that sweet doggie!
55 here, and out of work since "covid." Had one job for 8 months, the company sold, and was made redundant. At interviews, people either explicitly ask my age, or hint at it.
I’ve worked for the CS for over 20 years and can attest to fact that the advertised jobs are real. They will do their utmost to recruit from within their existing resource first so if they advertise out it will have been a very considered decision to do so. I would advise even if you see a temporary post that’s suitable to apply for it because if you’re good at your job (especially HL IT roles), the CS in my experience will try to hold onto you. Once you’re ’in’ and make contacts those people will advise you of potential new postings and advice on how to apply more effectively and if your new work examples are from the CS then even better. Additionally I personally don’t think they age discriminate- they are ethical on that front in my 20 years of being with them it’s nice to see that new recruits could be anywhere from 18-60! Also yes definitely don’t waffle in your applications and keep them tight and tailored. I’ve helped on recruitment exercises in the past and it’s all about the *outcomes* of your examples and the *impacts* made. Anyway I’ll shut up now haha. Good luck!
Move to Australia..I sympathise with you and your problems . Im retired and just returned from Uk from a 10 week visit and can’t get over how depressing it’s become.I have been fortunate to visit home on a regular basis over the last 40 years and on each visit I find myself saddened by what’s happened there..I have worked in a changing tech environment and count myself so lucky to have only had a week unemployed since 1974 ,,I can’t imagine what’s it’s like to be a job seekers etc .I wish you well and hope the future is brighter for you.I
Recently retired & on a pension. I dropped out years ago from all the stress of bothering with the charade of interviews where the face does not fit because of age. Quite honestly, not having to associate with people whom I would not bother with other than at the workplace has proved nothing but beneficial to me. The general negativity in the workplace is far more dangerous to well-being than figuring out how to budget for essentials.
First time in a while I have a lovely team and lovely place to work. Nobody at all is strange or twisted, if anything it's now me probably after so long of being tortured 😂
@@1ForTheShieldz Congratulations on dropping onto someone who appreciates your abilities. The only torture you might face is using the collapsing UK infrastructure getting to work/back home?
You may be in for a shock. Gaining entry to the civil service is not as easy as one might think. It is a lottery at the best of times due to the sheer volume of applications. It took me well over a year to get in and that was pre pandemic. Competition is fiercer now. I wish you the best of luck!
@@John-c4r1o Totally agree. I took the civil service job as I wanted income/job stability over chasing more money. I had been self employed for 30+ years but found as I got older I could not cope anymore living from feast to famine. Best move I made and realise I am very lucky to have got this job.
I have spoken to someone who is leaving the civil service role because of the toxic environment, as it is difficult to fire people in the civil service, you might work with "toxic" people.
@@haarew8336thing is there’s pros and cons to most jobs. I work in the CS and agree that it can be toxic based on which govt dept you work for. I moved from out of one because it was v cliquey and toxic but still in the CS but a different department because the stability of income is of more importance for me as a single person. Also where I moved to is less toxic so far because theres more professional people in it due to the type of work it is. I read horror stories about the private sector too so it’s just the luck of the draw!
@71highstorrs "feast or famine", that gave me flashbacks. When I was self employed there were months when I thought I was on the way to being a millionaire, others when I barely earned anything. Joined the CS just after covid, it's a different way of life but enjoying it.
There is a huge age discrimination against people over fifty trying to get a job , I know from personal experience , terrible, I hope you find something
Sorry to hear about this. Sadly the job market is really tough and even more so for those of us over 50. God knows how many of us are going to survive.
live simply, have no car, small house (or even van) no dogs and cats ie vets bills are very expensive, different hobbies, survival skills, lodgers etc.
I am sorry to hear about your job. I tend to agree with what you said about LinkedIn and the discrimination for those over 50; it is so real, even though we all know that it should not be the case.
Civil Service job ads? I suggest that for senior positions the jobs don’t actually exist but they are duty bound to advertise the position which means that the box has been ticked. The internal appointment has already been made.
Good luck mate 👍 50+ is a tricky time. The Civil Service is a great employer with all sorts of hybrid roles. I retrained for a second at 44 years of age and plan to work to 68.
I really feel for you. You are not alone . We are with you. 💯💪🏽🤗 In recent times, there has been a new term coined “fun employed”. I know it’s hard, although I’d say try to enjoy the moment… If you know someone who can get you a position somewhere that’s always helpful…that’s also a trend here in Washington DC, USA…. I’m rambling now, but you could also teach English online and/or abroad quite easily… the certificate for that only takes a couple months. I know what you’re going through…it’s a horrible feeling (I’ve been there in my early 30’s). There’s so much more to life than work. Focus on what you love and it will come back ten-fold. Who knows? I hope your TH-cam channels blow up and you can look back and smile at both the hard times and good times.😊
Not a clue who you are, but the algorithm told me to watch this, so I have. Good luck with the job hunt. Your accent sounds like you're from my part of the world (Cheshire) 👍🏻
Enjoy the walks while you have the time. Something will turn up. I've done the same walk. It is amazing how quiet the area is with the airport on the doorstep.
I’m 58 and can only get care work at my age where they see older people as an advantage. Don’t want to do this all my life as it’s hard work, zero hours and very low paid. I’m saving up to attempt to start my own e-commerce business and reselling. I then won’t be dependant on any employer or the job market and work in my own time and from home. Good luck.
I do think that when you are over the age of 55, it's a lot harder to get another job, but my thoughts are with you, I do wish you the very best of luck, I know what it's like to start looking for another job after 55
stay strong man. I experienced the same nearly 2 years ago. I thought Id found a good job, fairly local so hardly any travelling...but after 2 months they got rid of me. I was given a days notice for meeting in which I was dismissed. Funnily I had a meeting with HR 2 days before that and there was NO mention of any issues they had with me. I suspect I was taken on to do some mundane admin work with the lure of the proper work coming later. They even messed around with my pay so my claim for unemployment benefit was delayed and I struggled with no money for nearly 2 months IME Govt jobs posted online are not really open to the public. I believe they have to make sure any vacancy gets made to the public but invariably there will be an internal candidate that is basically a shoe in...sorry to be the bearer of bad news
I thought the creed of orthodox economists says "the market" is _perfect_ especially when The BoE sets the rate of U nemployment (added emoji to defeat the algorithm)
i worked in recruitment , there not harvesting cvs, they are luring you in to give them info on job interviews youve recently been to so then they can canvass for new business. pretty standard in the industry and very sneeky
Good Evening. Thank you very much for sharing your news. Sorry to hear you have been let go of. One door closes another one opens for You. Very Good Luck with your Job Searching. Remember to always do Your Du Diligence about the Company or Business that are Advertising the Job Vacancy. Research is very Important to do First. Keep on going and Believe in Yourself. You can do this. Jonathan/ Peterborough.
Best of luck with your applications. The public sector is a good employer in terms of stability and fair treatment. I just got a new post with HMRC and am older than you, so it can be done.
I have a friend whose daughter qualified with a degree in nursing a couple of years ago. All she could get were short-term contracts of three or six months. She moved to Canada in frustration
I worked as an RN for 30 years. Nursing jobs are cyclical. At times , there are an abundance of jobs and a shortage of nurses or there is an abundance of Nurses and no jobs. It's been like this for the past 50 years.
Had to leave my last job because of a Notice to quit on the last property i was living at, no longer viable to work where i was working. Been a Supervisor and Senior Supervisor so applying for everything between staff and assistant manager positions in retail and hospitality and always the same story. Either a standard rejection email, ghosting or "you dont have the experience we're looking for" my thought to that is, im not going to get the experience you want without you hiring me and training me. There's a notion that's grinding my gears "so many work shy people" i that's bs, i say company's are training shy, that's the problem.
Im right there with you brother. It was a year of unemployment for me just to finally find a job. And then be laid off 3 weeks later due to company closing it's doors. That was in July. On October 1st still nothing. It's awful
I’ve watched this video twice now with some discovered interesting points you mentioned, I have to say thank you again for your shared time. I do live very local to you so if you like and when time allows us both I be happy to just have a chat with you over our experiences, I’m currently a registered HGV driver, but even in this sector its hard to find a permanent role without working through employment agencies. Best of luck for the future Steve from Manchester - M23 area. And thank you for sharing the location point namely: Style Woods I will take a cycle ride soon as I’ve never been there before.
Contract work is soo hard to get these days! And totally agree, with contracting you’re always hustling for work to do! With IR35 too, it’s not worthit now too hence why many are moving over to permanent work
Is crazy that there is so much untapped talent out there because of ageism, absolutely agree with you about interim roles v permanent - I wish you every success with your search and hope that you get something soon
Sorry to hear, I am of a similar situation, you are a leader not a follower, set up your own company, if you can do it for someone you can do it for yourself, best wishes for the future.
Thanks for sharing your experience and sorry to hear that you find yourself out of work again. I agree with your approach and hope you find something very soon.
Unfortunately what I observed in the GFC of 2008 that many over 50s don't get back into the city professional environment, because it takes a few years for the economy to change and by that time their residual internal staff have gained more experience and take on cheap graduates. It's just a big meat grinder cycle.
I have just been let go on a building site after 3 days after been promised work up until Christmas. I am a technician carded plumber which is the highest level with a lot of experience. I came in at the wrong stage of the job a lot of snagging the foreman dropped me like a hat because he felt like it. Shocking the way you get treated in the construction industry also.
Yup where Iam the construction industry is dead, most trades guys I know are sitting at home doing nothing as no one wants them. Dont believe all the hype on media about there being a huge shortage of skills, its all rubbish.
@@agfagaevartthis! I've just been made redundant from the steel industry and some job descriptions baffle me! I regularly think "how could anyone be walking around with all the skills and qualifications that job wants?' some of the requisites don't even relate to each other!
No it is not. We have an issue with job allocation. We need respiratory therapists, RNs, teachers, welders police and city, county and state government needs tech workers and other workers.
@@fremontpathfinder8463 Yep, banging on a computer isn't the " Thing " anymore . What can you build , fix, move , install , assemble produce is the modern in demand profession's
Sorry to hear about your job. I think at this time the jobs market is completely broken. I think you are right to focus on the civil service, at least the jobs there will be legit. The reason for ghost jobs is, one to show how well the company is doing maybe to boost the share price. And two to keep the employees on their toes. The Over 50 Job Seeker channel is in the same position we're in, he seems to have had an interesting career.
Fortunately I am retired now but throughout my career in engineering manufacturing things have been incredibly turbulent, constantly worried about security and redundant several times. This country certainly has no regard for industry and I wish I had followed a different path. I think laws might have changed a bit now but my last employer was a large aircraft manufacturer and took many on, including me on an ongoing contract which would last for years which is clearly wrong. Keep trying and good luck.
I work for an agency. Two weeks work leading up to the summer holidays and two weeks after the school holidays. I’ve been out of work now for two weeks and just applied for a full time job at a school. I passed the phone interview yesterday and just passed the zoom meeting today. Next is the application form to fill in and the 3rd interview in two weeks time. My advice is join an agency and try for a temp to perm position. Keep the faith
Civil service in the UK is not an easy option. There is massive interference from 'on high' and departments are micromanaged, with a lot of internal politics. Getting a job is also difficult as they prefer to promote from within, even for externally advertised roles.
Well as someone that’s worked there for 20 years untrue. They ‘prefer’ the best person for the job and micromanaging can occur in private industry also. It’s also very rare people are ‘let go’ lol that’s just scaremongering. The CS is massive and easily absorbs staff whose jobs have changed or if it no longer exists. If someone is let go in my 20 years experience it’s because they’re bad at their job and trust me you have to be awfully bad to get fired from the CS due to the strength of the TU and the department doing everything legally and by the book.
LinkedIn is shit. Look at where you are, what a beautiful place. Hang in there. Be strong. I'm a unemployed 55 year old myself. Given up applying for roles. I even applied to be a sandwich had (cutting sammys) and didn't get that. Pale, grey and stale.
Oh dear, same age, same experience over years, had a nice business with staff for 2 decades, Ive wasted hours, weeks and months over the years, low pay, terrible temp jobs, we go backwards 😢😢
You come on here swearing. You can't even use grammar. You can't spell the job you applied for and refer to "sammys". If any of that attitude rubs off on your interview style or CV then no wonder you struggle. Polish yourself up and keep swearing for the pub or your own house.
@@scarlettkhan9667it doesn't work like that! I've just been made redundant from the steel industry and I'm H&S and there's no agencies local to me dealing with kind of work, when there are jobs in that sector it's usually via an agency that's over 100 mile away from where I am.
The reality is Britain has never really recovered from the recessions of the late 70's and early 80's. In the early 1960's unemployment levels in Britain were around 300,000. Just 20 years later this had ballooned 10 fold to over 3million unemployed as governments effectively closed down whole sectors of UK heavy industry and manufacturing. These higher paid jobs and the jobs they supported have never been fully replaced and the new jobs created have predominantly been lower paid/part time insecure service sector jobs. Today unemployment still stand at around 1.7million (with 460k of these being 16 to 24 year olds) and this ignores the millions only working part-time who would like to work more hours. Governments and the news prefer to talk about percentages of course; 4% unemployed here, 4.1% unemployed there etc, but this simply hides the scale of unemployment and is designed to make the unemployed feel it's their own fault for not having a job. In 1970 4% unemployment meant about 500k signing-on, today 4% means around 1.5 million unemployed and looking for work and yet you'll often hear the news compare the levels of unemployment as being the same today as 50+years ago, it's not. Finding and keeping a job in todays Britain has never been harder..
Sorry to hear my friend, from someone in the same boat for some time. Here's a thought - who's to say Ageism isn't alive and kicking in the civil service too? That's been my experience. Age discrimination does not discriminate between sectors!! Will be very interested to learn your progress and experiences. Hope you prove me wrong! :)
100% agree re the age discrimination. I know of organisations that are recruiting younger people to balance the stats and disregarding knowledge and skills that come with experience across time.
Similar situation to me. I was given a 3 month contract now cut short to 2 months I finish next week. They are also cost cutting, board meeting Tuesday and Wednesday they announce redundancies. I am actually happy as the role is a HUGE stress, it was a crap handover, no notes, and manager sending me messages "Has this been done?" and it was not covered in the handover, just constant stress, I don't need it. Told the agency I want minimum 6 month commitment and if its a case where the person leaving is going quickly with no notes, forget it, best contract was when I was supporting someone who had too much work, being left alone to do it all after a shit handover is not good for your mental health. I am not worried, agent will keep looking for me, plenty to do around the house, and holidays planned, perhaps permanently.
I walked out of my last job. Wasn't treated right. Didn't like the people and my manager, so I just turned up to work at 830, left the laptop etc on my desk and walked off.
All i can say is hang in there 😊. I have changed jobs seven times in the last two and a half years. Businesses are doing very poorly. The economy is in the trash world wide.
If you have a driving licence, think about becoming a bus driver. I was a SE Carpenter and Joiner for over 30 years, I wish I'd changed sooner. Lots of bus companies have training programmes in place and always advertise for trainee drivers. I worked for Arriva previously and can recommend their training. It would give you a reasonable income while looking for your permanent post. Good luck. My old Lab was called Bella lol😅
@@nobbynob-mq2rn I used to sell electronic components built up my contracts into multiple millions a year, then I was promoted to run the sales division of the hardware arm of the company, this section had been failing for a couple of years to meet its targets , I sacked half the sales people and replaced them and retrained the ones I kept, turned it around in 8 months and everyone got full bonus , then the company sold the division and offered us to either move to Coventry or be made redundant. Was a real kick in the teeth for myself and the team, decided that was it, wasn't willing to be chucked under the bus again when I had directly brought in millions in sales and contracts and also turned around a failing part of the company.
The problem with civil service is the appalling pay and the total absence of benefits. The pension is held up as a great benefit, but it is tied to state pension age which I think devalues it massively as a benefit. Aside from the pension, there is basically nothing (unless you value season ticket loans and joke benefits like that). Compare that to good private sector roles where you can get higher base pay, bonus schemes, stock options, private medical, strong employer pension contributions (10%+), etc. I'd recommend looking at large private sector companies (retail banks etc) where you still stand a chance of being considered after 30-40 years of age... and avoiding the trendy (shit) little tech companies who basically won't entertain you if you are over 30. Apply direct to companies and do not rely on recruitment consultants, who were once useful but have basically become a total waste of time.
I don't agree about the pension. In a sense all pensions are linked to state retirement age because of tax treatment of early withdrawals and the civil service is no less flexible than most private schemes. The actuarial reduction rates for taking pension early are actually more generous in the civil service than most private sector schemes Employer contribution rates are almost 30% and because its defined benefits not contributions you are not exposed to market risk. To me the pension is a great benefit. There also the point that defined benefits are effectively undervalued when the size of total pot is assessed for tax purposes. If I had a standard private sector scheme I need to save well over 1 million in my pot to get the retirement I want which would complicate my tax affairs. I work in the civil service and I need to earn at least a additional £25-30K if I move to a standard defined contributions private sector scheme. An issue of course is that to gain full advantage of pension you need to join relatively young and build up years. In terms of other benefits I also argue that the leave at 5PM culture and the decent holidays are benefits.
No there really isn't, I've done dregs jobs for years now and was single parent ex business owner with prestigious brand long ago, workplaces are full of immigrants, immigrant team leaders, immigrant managers, no scope for British, they're very racist often once you've worked in companies as my area not good for jobs. . Many don't learn English, coin in overtime and only ever about 3% English tops in some of these large companies, always looking for ways to oust you out even if u get a temp job in them, it's real eye opener and very corrupt, same in care sector, food places, many industries, it's British not welcome and foreign managers who have already been in these places 5-10 years, they recruit mainly their own. I've had 7 jobs in last year, they suck. I quit few days ago and I'm not a quitter but so sick of the ethics, I'm very over qualified but nothing in my industry for like 2 hour commute, I'm not 25 anymore...
Labour shortage mainly in minimum wage roles with high labour requirements I.e care. Immigration is necessary to fund the current pensioners (baby boomers) and care for them.State pensions are funded by current taxes, it takes around 5 workers to fund a pensioner. In the past 10 years pensioners increased by 2 million and thus immigration has increase by 10 million to keep up. We’re not having enough babies because we can’t afford it. Annoying I know
Honestly, I believe there's a ticking time bomb in that industry with AI advancing rapidly. Office jobs, as well as roles in banks and government where people work from home, are on borrowed time. These positions will soon be automated, with no need for people to sit behind desks anymore. In my opinion, it would be wise to diversify and explore a career where your skill set is more unique, as these jobs are oversaturated and becoming increasingly obsolete.
@@ResoundGuy5 Ultimately, that's the most challenging part, but it could involve a combination of becoming self-employed and finding alternative part-time work, like I did. I've also included my previous post below, which goes into a bit more detail about what I did, so it might be worth checking out.
@stevens1041 yep I would say within the next year or so the sector is going to be full of redundancies just like they're closing older storefronts on the High Street.
Would suggest buying and selling trading cards and other collectables. Just research what things are worth and head down to car boot sales. I spent £45 three weeks ago on three magazines and sold two of them already for £4850
There is a lot of bloat and nonsense with job postings now. Most of the job listings will either be: -Internal without being told it’s internal but the company is gambling on finding someone better -A fixed-term contract that someone who’s already working for is expected to reapply -A job that’s already been given to a friend/family member -A job that’s about to not exist and the position was someone who knows this with the company desperately trying to keep the post going -A job that doesn’t exist but is actually three other jobs amalgamated into one due to “restructuring” -Stealth internship -A job role that doesn’t exist but the interviewers will offer you a zero-hour contract version of the same role -Admin error -Job posting from an agency that doesn’t exist anymore but they want the click-through numbers -An article about training or volunteering… for some reason
Im a nurse 65 years old. Im planning on retiring in two years, but out of the blue, my supervisor is acting funny so im getting the feeling my time is short in this position. 7 years with good evaluations at a desk job. I dread having to look for another job at this age. There is serious age discrimination in the USA. Even for nurses.
Sorry to hear that. Good luck in the search. . I know a friend of a friend who lost his job; he's straight but actually does "gay for pay." I obviously don't recommend that, but it shows what's going on out there. These are tough and crazy times.
I was made redundant at 50 from my job as a quality manager in the wood working industry on £50.000/annum for a 35 hour week It took me 2 years to get back into work after getting a bus/coach license. I was on less than £20.000 for an average 60-65 hour week and had to move constantly to keep in work. Those last years of my working life was a real struggle and at the age of 62 I made the decision to retire early on my savings ... It was the best decision I ever made in my life. Don't tell me there's no age discrimination in the UK ... it's rife.
I will be redundant in a weeks time at the age of 58. I took VR for health reasons as I've been out sick for 9 months. I will take 6 months to get fit again and either study or get another job. I'm not bothered in what field and as long as the pay covers the mortgage, food and spending we will get by. I can top it up a bit with the redundancy pay out. I will probably be calling in favours from contacts and, unlike the UK, the Irish job market is a bit more open. Health is the most important thing for me just now.
Feel for you man. I’ve been freelance for about two years and in that time I’ve earnt the least I’ve earned since I was in my 20s. Hardly worked the first quarter of this year. Have tried getting FT roles in advertising and just don’t get interviews despite 30 years experience and willing to take a huge pay cut. I do feel that being a white middle aged man goes against you certainly in the Ad world. It’s such a rubbish time - I feel AI has reshaped my industry and I just have to accept that there’s not much freelance about and try and find a side line.
I'm 59, been made redundant 5 times. Been in current job and managed to survive job cuts for 16 years. When this one goes, I'll retire. It's a pain. My last 4 jobs were obtained through Jobserve - are they still going?
Wishing you the best for your application to the Civil Service. I would advise having a good read of the CS Success Profiles if you haven't already done so. In my experience Grade 6 & 7 job roles are heavily contested. My advice would be to detail check the job specifications and candidate criteria and weight your application accordingly. Sifts are anonymised and very strict on word counts. Good luck!
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Yep. My partner laid off at 52... 2 years later, still nothing apart from 1.5 months contract work. I think hes given up. Life has been shit since 2020. I'm sick of the media and politicians banging on about economic inactivity of over 50s like it's their fault. The employers are discriminating against over 50s 😡
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Yes pinks discriminating against pinks, what goes around comes around@😮
@@frankcorrea8691 what is a pink?
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@@frankcorrea8691 Tosser!
58 yrs old and I got made redundant last October from the e-commerce sector, I was a Senior Programme Manager. It took me until July to find another role but I made the decision to go into the public sector and do a slightly different role where my skills fitted but I wasn’t involved in delivery as it’s soul destroying. Pay is a lot less but it’s not terrible and a lot less stress. LinkedIn is a waste of time as are agencies and other job sites… apply directly via company websites or give them a call even if something isn’t advertised. Try and remain positive, which, from experience is a challenge. Good luck
Good to hear you have your new role. As a career CS, 40 years, working in Digital, about to retire, the constant comparison between private sector delivery roles and public sector annoys me - where the public sector pay/conditions/pension is always raised. I am trained in Prince 2, ITIL, AGILE, member of APMP etc etc, and I know for a fact my counterparts in the companies I have worked alongside in delivering projects over the years have been on almost double my own salary. 10 years running without a pay rise is still a kicker. I'd love to hear your view on the comparison.
I think the key is to maintain your network. Each time I have moved, it is via network, not agencies etc. after 24 years with original employer, the shock of redundancy was hard, and I hadn’t maintained a network effectively. Since then, kept in touch and re engaged as required, and it paid massive dividends
LinkedIn is not a waste of time. I got my last job through it. They found me from a search. I've been a self employed contractor for years. It is really tough if you are the senior manager to take time out as you don't want to be replaced by the temp. It is a minefield as there is no loyalty from the company hiring you usually. Try another career taking your experience with you. Good luck pal, there are many, many older men in the same boat.
I had the same situation till I bit the bullet and applied for a job in a care home. It's tough work but you'll never be out of work again. Eventually, it led me to me working in supported homes and that led me to working in a Special Needs School which ended up being the best job I've ever had. You have to change your expectations.
Care jobs just pay so dismally. I don't know how anyone survives on minimum wage.
@@BanjoPixelSnack You adjust your lifestyle.
A care home is a very tough job
fair play to you
it should be paid a lot better tbh.
@@BabyCowGoingmadinafield Better than being on the dole and moping. Should be paid twice as much. You're helping people in need and their families at the end of their lives.
I do that on a freelance basis. I take care of elders or disabled in their homes- it gives the caretakers ( family) a break. Sometimes for a day, sometimes for a week to take a vacation. It’s cash so it amounts to more. Agencies take too much of a cut. I have lots of side hustles. It’s the only way.
I'm gutted for you. Sorry to hear this.
I'm up at 6.30 every morning. Indeed, REED, Monster, Find a Job and so on. It's a full-time job looking for a job! It's challenging and can be draining.
Best of luck in your search🙏
@@dappergent9422 totally agree, but don’t you find Monster jobs are shit, same with Indeed?
I heard Indeed streamlined, laid a lot of staff off and went more AI. They seem to be a scam company?
Same, agencies and search engines are painful..
Keep going my brother!
What jobs are you looking for?
You are articulate and presentable - why not go into "Teaching" Accountancy. You would be ideal!
I am a 54 year old Instructor and Master Barber, I’ve never been unemployed since I studied barbering 30 plus years ago. I hold as well a BA in Business and Marketing and an MBA in Management, IT certifications and pursuing a Google Project Management certification. I truly believe we need to keep learning and have a skill job.
Good for you! 😂👍🏻
I have an Hons. Degree in Mech. Eng. & have been made redundant 7 times & now live in N.Z. Redundancy can be daunting, but if you search out new opportunities, it can be rewarding. I retired at 60, but still remember the pain of earlier years, constantly starting new jobs. There aren't jobs for life anymore, we need flexible careers.
Sorry you were let go. You are not alone in this; my own life is not much different. This is what works for me to maintain sanity and find some happiness in what can be a stressful time. a) looking for work regularly, but not every day. Looking every day can depressing and results in too much of 'the same thing' b) apply for jobs that are imperfect matches - one never knows what the employer sees - and they may have more latitude than they let on c) go for a walk every day d) read most days, and get the mind away from the internet for a while, and enjoy nature e) apply for survival jobs since its good to keep up routine, add to the finances, and do some networking f) don't be too hard on myself.
Good advice
Good advice 👍🏾
Nicely mentioned, Steve from Manchester, I'm also unemployed in my 50's and yes it is difficult 😥
I have 30 years xp working in IT. I now work on the tills at Lidl.
IT market is utterly flooded with foreign labour. Skills shortage my arse.
Rates have tanked and Conservatives effing around with IR35 caused utter chaos.
At least working on a till is honest labour.
IR35 fiasco has destroyed contractor sector.
Interesting, not my experience in the North. Loads of skills gaps still, especially in some areas. Candidates not great, got to look around a lot for the right people.
- IR35 really messed with contracting, true.
- Rates stagnate for years now, same rates on the market as 10 years ago yet cost of living up crazy.
- There are still roles but you need to keep skilling up. That's super tiring to do as things change fast in IT.
Utterly
I retired from IT after 37 years
I got out just in time
61 and living off a small pension and whatever i can hustle off ebay . Not signing on not looking for work . Bliss
I am the same age and thinking about doing the same with my small pension until state pension kicks in. Worked non stop since 16, not done benefits but getting so tired with work now as it's very physical and I am very tired
My mom is 62 she decided to keep working in her factory job and receive SS -she has the wise decisions my dad made for her… he worked in the railroad industry and for a paper mill- has 2 different pensions, SS, and receives a pension from the military. Also, they help my sister and her husband out by splitting their mortgage so they can be around the grandkids.
There is huge age discrimination against people over 50s
💯 in a world where the retirement age is increasing because the aging population is growing, which is a SUCCESS of modern medicine etc, employers are going to need to change.
This! I have 35 years of experience in tech in finance. And also struggle to find anything.
Yes, even places that are supposed to help are discriminatory. I’m 60 and need to acquire new skills due to disability. I need online/at home study and there’s a total disinterest from the majority, even the careers service.
@@OrganisedPauper I feel your frustration and pain. We all are in the same boat here. I have 35 years of international experience and worked in giant companies. There is no question about the skills, experience or qualifications, it’s just clearly biased age discrimination against 50s plus. I hate to say it but that’s the bitter truth about age discrimination.
I would say over 40
Good luck, mate.. I'm 53 and grateful I can still find work as an audio engineer, most of the time. Especially in music, we tend to work within our age group. So regardless of my experience, Who wants to work with an 'old man' according to the kids, lol.. Just keep moving, embrace, adapt and adjust is my mantra.. This is the road you were meant to be on, this is just the beginning of the 2nd half of our lives... Our purpose in this world is to be a witness to the grandioseness of life itself.. Nothing is permanent, get a good nights rest, eat well, and just face the day one at a time, things will get better... My mother passed a few years ago and in my darkest times, I ask her for help and guidance and she's never been wrong.. Namaste..
I'm sure you already know this, but rule number 1 is NEVER, EVER, EVER trust a recruitment agency! In my view, and many others, they are the scum of the earth, and it's just a huge shame that a very large number of employers use them. Good luck finding a permanent role.
Couldn’t agree more.
@@johnrichardson544 I also agree with you
100%
Totally.
The jobs they post are the bottom end.
Anyone who's older and struggling to find work, start a window cleaning business. After 20 years as a packaging designer (in the UK) and at the age of 45, I found myself unemployable. I was getting interviews but no job offers. Desperate for cash, I started a window cleaning business as a stop gap. Knocking on doors, I acquired 40 customers in the first month. I never looked back. I enjoyed being my own boss and the outdoor work. It sustained me and my two children for 20 years. I retired 2 years ago and gave the business to a neighbour, who was struggling to find work himself. Do a good job and you'll keep your customers. There is always a shortage of "good" windows cleaners. I had so much work, I would give some to other window cleaners. There's good money to be made window cleaning. Good luck.
Wow that's amazing well done you and fantastic you were able to pass your business on 👏👍
Agreed. I had a job one summer with my friend’s dad window cleaning business. Just the two of us. I made so much money, for minimal manual labour and I got to sticky nose into rich people’s huge houses.
Great tip! Thank you! 👍
Agree. I helped a neighbour set up a window cleaning business. It morphed into a holiday let cleaning business with 4 employees.
@@raoulmoat6762 Fair point, but these days you can get window washing poles that are like 40 feet long. I see people using them in my city all the time.
The truth is that the jobs market is shrinking, although Governments like to tell people that there are more people in work now than there have ever been. Ghost jobs creates the illusion that work is avaialble and out there, which results in unemployed people questioning their skills, abilities and self worth. In my opinion the rapid increase of insecure work is a result of Globalisation. AI will also reduce employment opportunities over the next ten years. Society should be questioning why we have record numbers of people going to universities and racking up huge debts, who then graduate and end up working in the gig economy. If people need multiple jobs or income streams just to survive, society is on a very slippery slope. I wish you well in your search for permenent work.
This 'Ghost jobs' thing is evry worrying. I see adverts for roles all the time but they get 100s of applicants and dont apear to even be real.
@@pin00ch After searching for work for 18 months, I decided in May 2024 when I turned 58 to take my private pension two years earlier than planned. I really feel for anyone over 50 looking for decent employment and regular pay. Stay positive and keep networking and remember you are not alone in your search for work.
@@fletcherdavies8749 👍
The gov. manipulates the jobs figures with varies devious methods. Namely, by not including those who have been unemployed for over 6 months.
End of growth, capitalism can't handle that
My last job I started in 2000 as Maternity cover, although I quickly found out during the week of handover that she wasn't planning on returning. Within two years the department of four was wittled down to just me. The whole experience just made me determined to escape the whims of others and I turned my mind to self employment ideas. That was 2006 and I haven't looked back since. Life is still up and down but the descisions are mine which in the end is more valuable to me than cash.
58 working a Janitor job it’s very hard but at least I’m working !!😔🙏
I’m a freelancer, (self employed) thats the nature of freelance work…. Jobs come and they and go… often part time, but you can freelance for several different companies at the same time. There are up sides, autonomy, you set your own fees, time off when you want it, etc etc. I like it. Wouldn’t want a permanent job. I can’t work for some other bugger anyway…
I am sorry for your loss of job had all these issues at 56 myself. Positives you have good health and right attitude and all this speaks volumes about you. You can do this really .
Sorry man. Glad you have a good mindset and a great place to talk to us and walk your pup.
Sharing from the states. In my 70’s and retired but before that have been through this.
Took me a while to find the job I finally retired from and just wanted you to look after yourself your mental wellbeing.
I worked side hustles even while I had my permanent job just to keep my bills current and save for my retirement.
🙏🏻 thank you find the right position and so glad you have that sweet doggie!
YT auto played this and I don't know who you are, but I wish you much success finding a government job very quickly!
55 here, and out of work since "covid." Had one job for 8 months, the company sold, and was made redundant. At interviews, people either explicitly ask my age, or hint at it.
I’ve worked for the CS for over 20 years and can attest to fact that the advertised jobs are real. They will do their utmost to recruit from within their existing resource first so if they advertise out it will have been a very considered decision to do so. I would advise even if you see a temporary post that’s suitable to apply for it because if you’re good at your job (especially HL IT roles), the CS in my experience will try to hold onto you. Once you’re ’in’ and make contacts those people will advise you of potential new postings and advice on how to apply more effectively and if your new work examples are from the CS then even better. Additionally I personally don’t think they age discriminate- they are ethical on that front in my 20 years of being with them it’s nice to see that new recruits could be anywhere from 18-60! Also yes definitely don’t waffle in your applications and keep them tight and tailored. I’ve helped on recruitment exercises in the past and it’s all about the *outcomes* of your examples and the *impacts* made. Anyway I’ll shut up now haha. Good luck!
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Move to Australia..I sympathise with you and your problems . Im retired and just returned from Uk from a 10 week visit and can’t get over how depressing it’s become.I have been fortunate to visit home on a regular basis over the last 40 years and on each visit I find myself saddened by what’s happened there..I have worked in a changing tech environment and count myself so lucky to have only had a week unemployed since 1974 ,,I can’t imagine what’s it’s like to be a job seekers etc .I wish you well and hope the future is brighter for you.I
Recently retired & on a pension.
I dropped out years ago from all the stress of bothering with the charade of interviews where the face does not fit because of age.
Quite honestly, not having to associate with people whom I would not bother with other than at the workplace has proved nothing but beneficial to me. The general negativity in the workplace is far more dangerous to well-being than figuring out how to budget for essentials.
First time in a while I have a lovely team and lovely place to work. Nobody at all is strange or twisted, if anything it's now me probably after so long of being tortured 😂
@@1ForTheShieldz Congratulations on dropping onto someone who appreciates your abilities. The only torture you might face is using the collapsing UK infrastructure getting to work/back home?
@lorenzbroll101 Nice bunch, hopefully it lasts a while.
@@lorenzbroll101 good luck with your career as well pal
@@1ForTheShieldz My new career of sitting on my backside & putting my feet up without having to cope with imbeciles !
you are smart and articulate; I have confidence you will find a job real soon. Take care from across the pond.
Age-ism is real. Wishing you the best of luck!
You may be in for a shock. Gaining entry to the civil service is not as easy as one might think. It is a lottery at the best of times due to the sheer volume of applications. It took me well over a year to get in and that was pre pandemic. Competition is fiercer now. I wish you the best of luck!
I've seen high calibre people in the public sector, they must have worked out that a stable job through the whole economic cycle is a better deal
@@John-c4r1o Totally agree. I took the civil service job as I wanted income/job stability over chasing more money. I had been self employed for 30+ years but found as I got older I could not cope anymore living from feast to famine. Best move I made and realise I am very lucky to have got this job.
I have spoken to someone who is leaving the civil service role because of the toxic environment, as it is difficult to fire people in the civil service, you might work with "toxic" people.
@@haarew8336thing is there’s pros and cons to most jobs. I work in the CS and agree that it can be toxic based on which govt dept you work for. I moved from out of one because it was v cliquey and toxic but still in the CS but a different department because the stability of income is of more importance for me as a single person. Also where I moved to is less toxic so far because theres more professional people in it due to the type of work it is. I read horror stories about the private sector too so it’s just the luck of the draw!
@71highstorrs "feast or famine", that gave me flashbacks. When I was self employed there were months when I thought I was on the way to being a millionaire, others when I barely earned anything. Joined the CS just after covid, it's a different way of life but enjoying it.
There is a huge age discrimination against people over fifty trying to get a job , I know from personal experience , terrible, I hope you find something
So sorry to hear this . God bless you and hope you find an amazing job soon :)
Wishing you all the best.
Sorry to hear about this. Sadly the job market is really tough and even more so for those of us over 50. God knows how many of us are going to survive.
It's very soul destroying
we wont survive. Ive started to draw on a few small pensions just to keep my head above water
live simply, have no car, small house (or even van) no dogs and cats ie vets bills are very expensive, different hobbies, survival skills, lodgers etc.
@beaulieuc8910
So what you're saying is ' exist ' not ' live '.
U.K.S.O.S
I am sorry to hear about your job. I tend to agree with what you said about LinkedIn and the discrimination for those over 50; it is so real, even though we all know that it should not be the case.
Sorry to hear this mate. Keep the videos coming they great to listen to. Good luck with the government application as well.
Civil Service job ads? I suggest that for senior positions the jobs don’t actually exist but they are duty bound to advertise the position which means that the box has been ticked. The internal appointment has already been made.
Good luck mate 👍 50+ is a tricky time. The Civil Service is a great employer with all sorts of hybrid roles. I retrained for a second at 44 years of age and plan to work to 68.
I really feel for you. You are not alone . We are with you. 💯💪🏽🤗 In recent times, there has been a new term coined “fun employed”. I know it’s hard, although I’d say try to enjoy the moment…
If you know someone who can get you a position somewhere that’s always helpful…that’s also a trend here in Washington DC, USA…. I’m rambling now, but you could also teach English online and/or abroad quite easily… the certificate for that only takes a couple months.
I know what you’re going through…it’s a horrible feeling (I’ve been there in my early 30’s). There’s so much more to life than work. Focus on what you love and it will come back ten-fold. Who knows? I hope your TH-cam channels blow up and you can look back and smile at both the hard times and good times.😊
Not a clue who you are, but the algorithm told me to watch this, so I have. Good luck with the job hunt. Your accent sounds like you're from my part of the world (Cheshire) 👍🏻
Enjoy the walks while you have the time. Something will turn up. I've done the same walk. It is amazing how quiet the area is with the airport on the doorstep.
It does look lovely there. Good for the mind after all that job hunting!
Just remember you’re not getting any younger I retired on below average pension and never looked back Health is more important than money
Recruitment agencies many get your CV and then contact your companies pitch for works. Quite waste of time really. Keep the spirit up. Its not easy.
I’m 58 and can only get care work at my age where they see older people as an advantage. Don’t want to do this all my life as it’s hard work, zero hours and very low paid. I’m saving up to attempt to start my own e-commerce business and reselling. I then won’t be dependant on any employer or the job market and work in my own time and from home. Good luck.
I do think that when you are over the age of 55, it's a lot harder to get another job, but my thoughts are with you, I do wish you the very best of luck, I know what it's like to start looking for another job after 55
Thanks for sharing your experiences, in a very balanced and fair way. Best of luck with the civil service applications.
stay strong man. I experienced the same nearly 2 years ago. I thought Id found a good job, fairly local so hardly any travelling...but after 2 months they got rid of me. I was given a days notice for meeting in which I was dismissed. Funnily I had a meeting with HR 2 days before that and there was NO mention of any issues they had with me. I suspect I was taken on to do some mundane admin work with the lure of the proper work coming later. They even messed around with my pay so my claim for unemployment benefit was delayed and I struggled with no money for nearly 2 months
IME Govt jobs posted online are not really open to the public. I believe they have to make sure any vacancy gets made to the public but invariably there will be an internal candidate that is basically a shoe in...sorry to be the bearer of bad news
The market is not good. It is not you or your age. In fact, you are not doing that badly when you think about it. Thanks for your good videos.
I thought the creed of orthodox economists says "the market" is _perfect_ especially when The BoE sets the rate of U nemployment (added emoji to defeat the algorithm)
i worked in recruitment , there not harvesting cvs, they are luring you in to give them info on job interviews youve recently been to so then they can canvass for new business. pretty standard in the industry and very sneeky
Good Evening. Thank you very much for sharing your news. Sorry to hear you have been let go of. One door closes another one opens for You. Very Good Luck with your Job Searching. Remember to always do Your Du Diligence about the Company or Business that are Advertising the Job Vacancy. Research is very Important to do First. Keep on going and Believe in Yourself. You can do this. Jonathan/ Peterborough.
Chin up mate. Just remember that your experience counts for a lot. In this market employers want someone reliable and diligent.
Best of luck with your applications. The public sector is a good employer in terms of stability and fair treatment. I just got a new post with HMRC and am older than you, so it can be done.
I have a friend whose daughter qualified with a degree in nursing a couple of years ago. All she could get were short-term contracts of three or six months. She moved to Canada in frustration
I worked as an RN for 30 years. Nursing jobs are cyclical. At times , there are an abundance of jobs and a shortage of nurses or there is an abundance of Nurses and no jobs. It's been like this for the past 50 years.
Had to leave my last job because of a Notice to quit on the last property i was living at, no longer viable to work where i was working. Been a Supervisor and Senior Supervisor so applying for everything between staff and assistant manager positions in retail and hospitality and always the same story. Either a standard rejection email, ghosting or "you dont have the experience we're looking for" my thought to that is, im not going to get the experience you want without you hiring me and training me. There's a notion that's grinding my gears "so many work shy people" i that's bs, i say company's are training shy, that's the problem.
Im right there with you brother. It was a year of unemployment for me just to finally find a job. And then be laid off 3 weeks later due to company closing it's doors. That was in July. On October 1st still nothing. It's awful
Learned this in my youth...Get a job, get a better job, get the job you want. It is a process.
Yoh just need to be close friends with someone in a good company then they’ll let u join
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@@maalikserebryakovif only, not all friends care and are out for themselves
I’ve watched this video twice now with some discovered interesting points you mentioned, I have to say thank you again for your shared time. I do live very local to you so if you like and when time allows us both I be happy to just have a chat with you over our experiences, I’m currently a registered HGV driver, but even in this sector its hard to find a permanent role without working through employment agencies. Best of luck for the future Steve from Manchester - M23 area. And thank you for sharing the location point namely: Style Woods I will take a cycle ride soon as I’ve never been there before.
Been there. Done that. I have several T-Shirts. Hang in there and keep the faith.
Contract work is soo hard to get these days! And totally agree, with contracting you’re always hustling for work to do! With IR35 too, it’s not worthit now too hence why many are moving over to permanent work
I always have a side hustle that I can rely on if I'm inbetween jobs, and I also try to spread my employment across different roles and industries
Is crazy that there is so much untapped talent out there because of ageism, absolutely agree with you about interim roles v permanent - I wish you every success with your search and hope that you get something soon
Sorry to hear, I am of a similar situation, you are a leader not a follower, set up your own company, if you can do it for someone you can do it for yourself, best wishes for the future.
Thanks for sharing your experience and sorry to hear that you find yourself out of work again. I agree with your approach and hope you find something very soon.
Sorry to hear this I have been looking and being ignored since March
I am afraid a lot of fifty somethings have got take up a lot more hobbies
Unfortunately what I observed in the GFC of 2008 that many over 50s don't get back into the city professional environment, because it takes a few years for the economy to change and by that time their residual internal staff have gained more experience and take on cheap graduates. It's just a big meat grinder cycle.
I have just been let go on a building site after 3 days after been promised work up until Christmas. I am a technician carded plumber which is the highest level with a lot of experience. I came in at the wrong stage of the job a lot of snagging the foreman dropped me like a hat because he felt like it. Shocking the way you get treated in the construction industry also.
Yup where Iam the construction industry is dead, most trades guys I know are sitting at home doing nothing as no one wants them. Dont believe all the hype on media about there being a huge shortage of skills, its all rubbish.
This country is in a massive recession. The jobs market has absolutely tanked!
there are jobs but employers expect people to have 101 skills!
Are you completely mad
@@agfagaevartthis! I've just been made redundant from the steel industry and some job descriptions baffle me! I regularly think "how could anyone be walking around with all the skills and qualifications that job wants?' some of the requisites don't even relate to each other!
No it is not. We have an issue with job allocation. We need respiratory therapists, RNs, teachers, welders police and city, county and state government needs tech workers and other workers.
@@fremontpathfinder8463 Yep, banging on a computer isn't the " Thing " anymore . What can you build , fix, move , install , assemble produce is the modern in demand profession's
Living the life free mate enjoy it
Sorry to hear about your job. I think at this time the jobs market is completely broken. I think you are right to focus on the civil service, at least the jobs there will be legit.
The reason for ghost jobs is, one to show how well the company is doing maybe to boost the share price. And two to keep the employees on their toes.
The Over 50 Job Seeker channel is in the same position we're in, he seems to have had an interesting career.
Fortunately I am retired now but throughout my career in engineering manufacturing things have been incredibly turbulent, constantly worried about security and redundant several times. This country certainly has no regard for industry and I wish I had followed a different path. I think laws might have changed a bit now but my last employer was a large aircraft manufacturer and took many on, including me on an ongoing contract which would last for years which is clearly wrong. Keep trying and good luck.
I work for an agency. Two weeks work leading up to the summer holidays and two weeks after the school holidays. I’ve been out of work now for two weeks and just applied for a full time job at a school. I passed the phone interview yesterday and just passed the zoom meeting today. Next is the application form to fill in and the 3rd interview in two weeks time. My advice is join an agency and try for a temp to perm position. Keep the faith
Keep your chin up dude, the perfect job will come to you eventually
Sorry to hear it. I had some rough years too... Best luck in the job search.
Civil service in the UK is not an easy option. There is massive interference from 'on high' and departments are micromanaged, with a lot of internal politics. Getting a job is also difficult as they prefer to promote from within, even for externally advertised roles.
They are also cutting back, know quiet a few people that have been let go from the civil service.
Well as someone that’s worked there for 20 years untrue. They ‘prefer’ the best person for the job and micromanaging can occur in private industry also. It’s also very rare people are ‘let go’ lol that’s just scaremongering. The CS is massive and easily absorbs staff whose jobs have changed or if it no longer exists. If someone is let go in my 20 years experience it’s because they’re bad at their job and trust me you have to be awfully bad to get fired from the CS due to the strength of the TU and the department doing everything legally and by the book.
LinkedIn is shit. Look at where you are, what a beautiful place. Hang in there. Be strong. I'm a unemployed 55 year old myself. Given up applying for roles. I even applied to be a sandwich had (cutting sammys) and didn't get that. Pale, grey and stale.
Buy a nice suit go into recruitment agency and have the right personality. You can do it.
Oh dear, same age, same experience over years, had a nice business with staff for 2 decades, Ive wasted hours, weeks and months over the years, low pay, terrible temp jobs, we go backwards 😢😢
@@scarlettkhan9667What recruitment agency?
You come on here swearing. You can't even use grammar. You can't spell the job you applied for and refer to "sammys". If any of that attitude rubs off on your interview style or CV then no wonder you struggle. Polish yourself up and keep swearing for the pub or your own house.
@@scarlettkhan9667it doesn't work like that! I've just been made redundant from the steel industry and I'm H&S and there's no agencies local to me dealing with kind of work, when there are jobs in that sector it's usually via an agency that's over 100 mile away from where I am.
The reality is Britain has never really recovered from the recessions of the late 70's and early 80's. In the early 1960's unemployment levels in Britain were around 300,000. Just 20 years later this had ballooned 10 fold to over 3million unemployed as governments effectively closed down whole sectors of UK heavy industry and manufacturing. These higher paid jobs and the jobs they supported have never been fully replaced and the new jobs created have predominantly been lower paid/part time insecure service sector jobs.
Today unemployment still stand at around 1.7million (with 460k of these being 16 to 24 year olds) and this ignores the millions only working part-time who would like to work more hours.
Governments and the news prefer to talk about percentages of course; 4% unemployed here, 4.1% unemployed there etc, but this simply hides the scale of unemployment and is designed to make the unemployed feel it's their own fault for not having a job.
In 1970 4% unemployment meant about 500k signing-on, today 4% means around 1.5 million unemployed and looking for work and yet you'll often hear the news compare the levels of unemployment as being the same today as 50+years ago, it's not. Finding and keeping a job in todays Britain has never been harder..
That's true. I have a 2:1 degree in Business Management and can't even get jobs where a degree isn't required. It's not right
Keep walking in Nature. You will succeed.
Yep, it's good to get out and go on walks. Takes your mind off things
Sorry to hear my friend, from someone in the same boat for some time. Here's a thought - who's to say Ageism isn't alive and kicking in the civil service too? That's been my experience. Age discrimination does not discriminate between sectors!! Will be very interested to learn your progress and experiences. Hope you prove me wrong! :)
Sorry to hear they’ve let you go it’s their loss, the right fit will come your way soon x
@@sharonbrown9184 they don't care.
100% agree re the age discrimination. I know of organisations that are recruiting younger people to balance the stats and disregarding knowledge and skills that come with experience across time.
Similar situation to me. I was given a 3 month contract now cut short to 2 months I finish next week. They are also cost cutting, board meeting Tuesday and Wednesday they announce redundancies. I am actually happy as the role is a HUGE stress, it was a crap handover, no notes, and manager sending me messages "Has this been done?" and it was not covered in the handover, just constant stress, I don't need it. Told the agency I want minimum 6 month commitment and if its a case where the person leaving is going quickly with no notes, forget it, best contract was when I was supporting someone who had too much work, being left alone to do it all after a shit handover is not good for your mental health. I am not worried, agent will keep looking for me, plenty to do around the house, and holidays planned, perhaps permanently.
I walked out of my last job. Wasn't treated right. Didn't like the people and my manager, so I just turned up to work at 830, left the laptop etc on my desk and walked off.
Blessings and new employment for you soon.
All i can say is hang in there 😊. I have changed jobs seven times in the last two and a half years. Businesses are doing very poorly. The economy is in the trash world wide.
I wish you health and happiness if you wake up in the morning it's a bonus
We need MPs watching this if we are to ever hope for meaningful changes.
Agree, cv farming is rife. I had this applying for jobs that really did not exist, agents saying that they will find another but pointless.
Yes its all about getting a human to speak with. And if the internal don't understand the hiring manager needs in detail they will just cut CVs
Canny innovate so skim from your CV and interviews. If that doesn't work...
If you have a driving licence, think about becoming a bus driver. I was a SE Carpenter and Joiner for over 30 years, I wish I'd changed sooner. Lots of bus companies have training programmes in place and always advertise for trainee drivers. I worked for Arriva previously and can recommend their training. It would give you a reasonable income while looking for your permanent post. Good luck. My old Lab was called Bella lol😅
Gave up working for other people and set up on my own , was hard for five years but eventually made it on my own.
what did you do?
@@nobbynob-mq2rn I used to sell electronic components built up my contracts into multiple millions a year, then I was promoted to run the sales division of the hardware arm of the company, this section had been failing for a couple of years to meet its targets , I sacked half the sales people and replaced them and retrained the ones I kept, turned it around in 8 months and everyone got full bonus , then the company sold the division and offered us to either move to Coventry or be made redundant. Was a real kick in the teeth for myself and the team, decided that was it, wasn't willing to be chucked under the bus again when I had directly brought in millions in sales and contracts and also turned around a failing part of the company.
The problem with civil service is the appalling pay and the total absence of benefits. The pension is held up as a great benefit, but it is tied to state pension age which I think devalues it massively as a benefit. Aside from the pension, there is basically nothing (unless you value season ticket loans and joke benefits like that). Compare that to good private sector roles where you can get higher base pay, bonus schemes, stock options, private medical, strong employer pension contributions (10%+), etc. I'd recommend looking at large private sector companies (retail banks etc) where you still stand a chance of being considered after 30-40 years of age... and avoiding the trendy (shit) little tech companies who basically won't entertain you if you are over 30. Apply direct to companies and do not rely on recruitment consultants, who were once useful but have basically become a total waste of time.
I don't agree about the pension. In a sense all pensions are linked to state retirement age because of tax treatment of early withdrawals and the civil service is no less flexible than most private schemes. The actuarial reduction rates for taking pension early are actually more generous in the civil service than most private sector schemes Employer contribution rates are almost 30% and because its defined benefits not contributions you are not exposed to market risk. To me the pension is a great benefit. There also the point that defined benefits are effectively undervalued when the size of total pot is assessed for tax purposes. If I had a standard private sector scheme I need to save well over 1 million in my pot to get the retirement I want which would complicate my tax affairs. I work in the civil service and I need to earn at least a additional £25-30K if I move to a standard defined contributions private sector scheme. An issue of course is that to gain full advantage of pension you need to join relatively young and build up years. In terms of other benefits I also argue that the leave at 5PM culture and the decent holidays are benefits.
We are always told that there is a general labour shortage, hence a need for more immigration. Does anybody understand what's going on?
No there really isn't, I've done dregs jobs for years now and was single parent ex business owner with prestigious brand long ago, workplaces are full of immigrants, immigrant team leaders, immigrant managers, no scope for British, they're very racist often once you've worked in companies as my area not good for jobs. . Many don't learn English, coin in overtime and only ever about 3% English tops in some of these large companies, always looking for ways to oust you out even if u get a temp job in them, it's real eye opener and very corrupt, same in care sector, food places, many industries, it's British not welcome and foreign managers who have already been in these places 5-10 years, they recruit mainly their own. I've had 7 jobs in last year, they suck. I quit few days ago and I'm not a quitter but so sick of the ethics, I'm very over qualified but nothing in my industry for like 2 hour commute, I'm not 25 anymore...
Labour shortage mainly in minimum wage roles with high labour requirements I.e care. Immigration is necessary to fund the current pensioners (baby boomers) and care for them.State pensions are funded by current taxes, it takes around 5 workers to fund a pensioner. In the past 10 years pensioners increased by 2 million and thus immigration has increase by 10 million to keep up. We’re not having enough babies because we can’t afford it. Annoying I know
@@rainbowlyniscoolInteresting - thank you!
Ah the good old immigration ponzi scheme myth. Haven’t heard that one in a while.
The great replacement, the globalists are playing a blinder
Don't worry things will change soon ...🙏.. watch some Richard vobes videos some good advice...
Honestly, I believe there's a ticking time bomb in that industry with AI advancing rapidly. Office jobs, as well as roles in banks and government where people work from home, are on borrowed time. These positions will soon be automated, with no need for people to sit behind desks anymore. In my opinion, it would be wise to diversify and explore a career where your skill set is more unique, as these jobs are oversaturated and becoming increasingly obsolete.
What would you recommend specifically to do?
@@ResoundGuy5 Ultimately, that's the most challenging part, but it could involve a combination of becoming self-employed and finding alternative part-time work, like I did. I've also included my previous post below, which goes into a bit more detail about what I did, so it might be worth checking out.
Banking has been decimated since 2008. Never recovered, many of the mid-level jobs were all automated in the years since.
@stevens1041 yep I would say within the next year or so the sector is going to be full of redundancies just like they're closing older storefronts on the High Street.
@ResoundGuy5 well a guy is an accountant so I don't know why he's not doing tax returns and payroll for local and self-employed people.
Would suggest buying and selling trading cards and other collectables. Just research what things are worth and head down to car boot sales. I spent £45 three weeks ago on three magazines and sold two of them already for £4850
Im sorry to hear that, hope you find something else soon
There is a lot of bloat and nonsense with job postings now. Most of the job listings will either be:
-Internal without being told it’s internal but the company is gambling on finding someone better
-A fixed-term contract that someone who’s already working for is expected to reapply
-A job that’s already been given to a friend/family member
-A job that’s about to not exist and the position was someone who knows this with the company desperately trying to keep the post going
-A job that doesn’t exist but is actually three other jobs amalgamated into one due to “restructuring”
-Stealth internship
-A job role that doesn’t exist but the interviewers will offer you a zero-hour contract version of the same role
-Admin error
-Job posting from an agency that doesn’t exist anymore but they want the click-through numbers
-An article about training or volunteering… for some reason
Im a nurse 65 years old. Im planning on retiring in two years, but out of the blue, my supervisor is acting funny so im getting the feeling my time is short in this position. 7 years with good evaluations at a desk job. I dread having to look for another job at this age. There is serious age discrimination in the USA. Even for nurses.
Sorry to hear that. Good luck in the search. . I know a friend of a friend who lost his job; he's straight but actually does "gay for pay." I obviously don't recommend that, but it shows what's going on out there. These are tough and crazy times.
I was made redundant at 50 from my job as a quality manager in the wood working industry on £50.000/annum for a 35 hour week It took me 2 years to get back into work after getting a bus/coach license. I was on less than £20.000 for an average 60-65 hour week and had to move constantly to keep in work. Those last years of my working life was a real struggle and at the age of 62 I made the decision to retire early on my savings ... It was the best decision I ever made in my life. Don't tell me there's no age discrimination in the UK ... it's rife.
Thanks for your work here on youtube ❤
I will be redundant in a weeks time at the age of 58. I took VR for health reasons as I've been out sick for 9 months. I will take 6 months to get fit again and either study or get another job.
I'm not bothered in what field and as long as the pay covers the mortgage, food and spending we will get by. I can top it up a bit with the redundancy pay out. I will probably be calling in favours from contacts and, unlike the UK, the Irish job market is a bit more open.
Health is the most important thing for me just now.
Feel for you man. I’ve been freelance for about two years and in that time I’ve earnt the least I’ve earned since I was in my 20s. Hardly worked the first quarter of this year. Have tried getting FT roles in advertising and just don’t get interviews despite 30 years experience and willing to take a huge pay cut. I do feel that being a white middle aged man goes against you certainly in the Ad world. It’s such a rubbish time - I feel AI has reshaped my industry and I just have to accept that there’s not much freelance about and try and find a side line.
I'm 59, been made redundant 5 times. Been in current job and managed to survive job cuts for 16 years. When this one goes, I'll retire. It's a pain. My last 4 jobs were obtained through Jobserve - are they still going?
same, am so fed up with redundancies
You are a survivor my friend I wish you all the best don’t retire your tenacity is needed in the work place
Wishing you the best for your application to the Civil Service. I would advise having a good read of the CS Success Profiles if you haven't already done so. In my experience Grade 6 & 7 job roles are heavily contested. My advice would be to detail check the job specifications and candidate criteria and weight your application accordingly. Sifts are anonymised and very strict on word counts. Good luck!