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Baseball is certainly in a struggle against itself, especially when you factor in that there's a deep drive into left field by Nick Castellanos and that'll be a home run
“Pete Reiser fractured his skull running into a wall, was temporarily paralyzed from running into a different wall, and fractured his skull a second time after running into a third wall. As he was being carried off the field on a stretcher, the TV broadcast showed Reiser looking directly into the camera, which broke the fourth wall.”
although i understand how dangerous it is to run full speed into a wall without bracing yourself because you're looking in the opposite direction concentrating on a fly ball i've always appreciated the looney toons factor it presents as a viewer.
Yeah, reality is stranger than fiction. Rewatching those baseball-centric episodes of the Looney Tunes after watching this video enhances the experience because every gag and joke made in them has context. They weren't just silly jokes that derive their humor from slapstick absurdity but they are satirizing actual real life happenings in the sport at the time...
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Change the hit batter rule into a walk to second base -- perhaps starting with the second player hit in a game. This would give control pitchers a greater relative worth.
I actually think being hit by pitch should automatically fill the farthest open base. Hit by pitch is such a nasty part of the game. It should be more punishing for sure.. Also make more punishments hitting batters in games that don’t matter too… such as automatic fine included (all players select a charity, pitcher makes automatic donation of like $1,500 to batters charity), amount amplified in playoffs/WS. Maybe second batter hit in game same game by a same pitcher is automatically ejected because obviously they don’t have control. I can see a problem with this, is that batters would begin hugging the inside of the plate daring to be hit. However you could implement a 3-4 inch zone inside-zone off the plate reviewable by camera that doesn’t have punishment besides batter goes to first base. This would allow true accidents that just clip the batters knee or hand swinging the bat. It’s those pitches that beam batters 16 inches off the plate basically in the upper body and head which need severe punishment.
It’s because they don’t allow pitchers to have any grippy substances anymore and are selectively banning players on that rule,even the best control pitchers have tough times because how slippery a brand new mlb ball is
17:45 Not to mention pitching is getting more reliant than ever in relieving pitchers, which not only brings the aforementioned lack of being used to pitch a lot of times per game, but also making the overall pitcher lose the "marathon" mindset of not forcing their throws to prevent injuries. Relievers are never holding back their pitches because they will be benched after one or two innings, and starters aren't holding back their pitches as much as before because they are more likely to be relieved sooner rather than later.
I think the biggest thing for pitchers even with the decreased pitch counts is increases on elbow torque. Ultimately it’s insane that we can throw as hard as we do and that throwing motion is literally tearing your shoulder/elbow appart with that amount of force. Realistically a lot of the older guys who were throwing 300+ innings a year were simply not throwing 100% effort for the vast majority of their pitches, if it all. I think in the past it was more common to have actual shoulder wear issues for pitchers from over use but now it’s all elbow injuries due to increased torque which comes from pitch velocity. MLB is not actually solving any problems by decreasing pitch counts because it’s just allowing pitchers to throw harder for shorter outings which just exacerbates elbow injuries.
The pitches being thrown are of immense importance too. 200 knuckleballs probably does less damage (except to the catcher's pride) than 50 two-seam fastballs.
Also, pitchers from bygone eras had an arsenal of pitches. You'll be lucky today to find a GOOD pitcher with more than 2 great pitches. I remember pitchers having 4, sometimes 5!
Completely agree on this point. Facts of the matter are, pitchers are further incentivized to throw harder and they're maxing out their arm's limit. Looking at people that threw hard for many years, like Nolan Ryan (just not consistent 100's), it's clear that the immediate velocity gains are perceived to be more important than the overall health of the pitcher.
@@monot00nz That I agree with. Whitey Ford did not throw hard, but rather placed his pitches strategically do get men out. Also watch Sandy Koufax mix it up.
We've been seeing an increase in serious injuries across pretty much every sport. Considering that athletes today are bigger, faster and stronger than ever before, I believe we're coming to the absolute limit of what humans can physically do.
A big part of the rise in injuries is that while you can condition muscles, there's no way to strengthen tendons, hence the large amount of Tommy Johns and ACL tears.
Yep that is one of many reasons why players today can barely make it past 30 playing at the top level anymore. I grew up playing baseball and my dad talked to me about overdoing it when it came to throwing. He told me that you only have so many throws in your arm before it gives out and as you throw faster and faster you're losing the possible throws at a more increased rate. You have to throw as hard as possible every pitch when you're in the bigs and that like he said it kills your arm. Pro sports need to take into account that we are reaching that limit where we are going to end up like race horses: used up when we're young adults and we don't have a happy life afterwards because we're endlessly healing from past injuries ruined bodies till the day those people die.
random ass niggas be saying “baseball is boring” while never watching or playing the game. Soccers the real boring sport where people roll on the ground for hours because they got poked
I think another factor is that players and organizations have become more aware of injuries and are more likely to report it. Back in the day the mentality was often "just walk it off" so I can imagine quite a few injuries would go unreported because players tried to play through the pain. Now I feel like any amount of pain no matter how insignificant is brought up and taken care of. If a player today wakes up on the wrong side of the bed and has a sore back the organization will give them an ice bath and massage, 20 years ago they probably would have been told to suck it up and go to practice.
The guy ran into concrete walls more than once, pretty clear that they handed being hurt better. There's also more money invested in the game than ever before, so even if the player has a pride in his body, the money's gonna exploit him.
Start making players use hockey helmets and more specifically goalie helmets. They are designed for 100mph shots in hockey right to the face and the vision in them is good enough for goalies to effectively stop those shots. Give pitchers hockey helmets as well, except since they need to be more stream lined and have more peripheral vision give them player helmets with a fish bowl on it. Instead of just fences, use plexiglass to protect the dug outs. They can also easily survive 100mph shots just fine while being as clear as glass, so they work perfect Also use plexiglass for the walls around the stadium. If used in the design used in hockey using stanchions they provide a very good surface to bounce off of when hitting the wall. Make a higher penalty for hitting the batter with the ball. Instead of one base, give 2. Or maybe while giving a single base take away one of their outs so that they need to get more to end the inning. You will see the league meta change, hopefully to resort to more skilled pitchers again or to pitches farther from the batter. The simple fact is, don’t make safety the players choice. Make the league set that up and make those decisions.
Damn the Dave Dravecky portion hit me hard. My cousin got a rare cancer when he was around 10 or 11 and passed away. My parents got my Dave's book about his life as I was a big baseball fan. I wrote him a letter and he even responded. I knew about his arm breaking while pitching from the book but I had never seen video of it.
I love the fact baseball is just pretty openly corrupt and always has been like it gives the entire history of the sport a rough character you just can't get anywhere else and there's always some kind of controversy going on to go a hilarious deep dive on .
I think you misunderstood the video. Baseball is made up of the greatest athletes alive, the corrupt ones are found out, and the rest are placed or displaced fairly easily. You could argue the point except you also proved it doing exactly what you just did...
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10:55 Dale Earnhardt died because he didn't wear a hass device because he thought it was uncomfortable, nascar now mandates them. Some times the league just needs to tell them to suck it up.
The overvaluing of velocity I think is also a reason game length has become more of an issue. Higher velocity means less control which means fewer strikes which means more pitches. More pitches means a longer game which is magnified by needing more pitching changes with more pitches. If control was valued more, then you would have fewer pitches and also more hitting as well. I'm not sure what rule changes could be practically applied to getting teams to value control more, but lower velocity and more control would result in both a safer and more entertaining game.
Probably moving the mound back would be about the only thing to help that. The higher velo is probably also why pitchers take so dang long between pitches-gotta recharge. And you’re right about the efficiency of control pitchers: look at Greg Maddux.
Just change the count from 4-3 to 3-3, thats all, if they aren't allowed to throw so many balls they won't, and that will make it easier tobhit the ball too (Can't trick the batter as easier when they need to throw strikes).
I couldnt imagine seeing 100 coming right at you. The worst hbp i had was against kid in high school probably not even throwing 80 and he still knock me out for a week when he nailed me in the side of my knee
In high school, I watched our team's ace hit a kid in the side of the helmet with a 92 MPH fastball. He crumpled to the ground like a sack of potatoes. It was surreal. Poor guy didn't even have time to move. He was out cold for about thirty seconds. No lasting injury, thankfully
I was in the dugout for a summer at a league for minor league caliber players. These guys take pitches and run to first base like nothing happens. You think it just hurts like a bitch but that’s it. Nope. You should see the welts the pitches leave. Even at 85mph. Gigantic black and blue welts 8 or so inches across. All the players told me it was super, super painful and if it hit them in the ass they couldn’t sit for days. Probably the biggest clue I got though was the catchers, many of whom went on to have careers in the major leagues, telling me that it hurt every time they caught a fastball. Like there was no way to catch it where it didn’t hurt. And these pitchers were mostly throwing high 80s or low 90s in the summer, so I can’t imagine what it must be like when you go pro and almost everyone you catch is at least mid 90s. Also thumb fractures were really common because catching it slightly wrong can break fingers.
Agreed. I played in an over 30 hardball league a while back. Got hit on the back lower calf with a pitch that was probably going less than 80. I had difficulty walking without a limp for 24hrs and the the black & blue welt included a nice baseball stitch pattern. I was quite shocked how much that hurt.
Pitchers throwing at 100% power is what kills arms. Think about motors: if you run your car at 100% pedal to the floor all the time non-stop it won’t last. If you give it a relatively easy life it’ll last much much longer. Even just dropping down to 80% would greatly reduce wear on their arm.
Unlike an engine, the human body can be trained to take on larger loads. Trevor Bauer said that pitchers should train like long distance rumners. Run over-distance, while training, then race day is the easy day. Similiarily, pitchers should over use their arms on training days. Their bodies get a break on game day.
As a 21 year old who grew up right after “travel ball” exploded, I think that had a lot to do with the arm injuries we see on the pitching side. My dad grew up playing baseball, but back then, it was only little league (which was more competitive than most little leagues today)or your high school team. Both of these enable an off season in which your arm can rest. The year round travel ball cycle doesn’t allow for this. Guys are just throwing more year round from a young age, and are specializing earlier.
Think you have a point. I think throwing a football during football season helped my baseball cause develop strength and elasticity in rotator cuff. I serve hundreds of balls in tennis and quite fast and then kick serves which have an inside out delivery like a screwball or the turn over change up and I never get a sore or stiff arm. I think that's insane.
@@willkittwk I remember seeing photos of Nolan Ryan throwing footballs in a Rangers uniform, and hearing about how they did that for arm strength training. Seemed to work for him. Maybe it's something to do with throwing a heavier ball at a lower speed over a longer distance.
This channel is just flat out incredible. The amount of research you had to do for this is insane. I send your links to my baseball friends constantly.
As a European that doesn't really know any of the American sports beside basketball, I really love your videos. Without you, I'd have never known how crazy and wild of a sport baseball actually is lmao
A lot of people think baseball is boring but I think most of them say that because they don't know much about baseball... its the weirdest, most unlikely sport I know of and there's such a huge element of randomness inherent to the game that it makes for all kinds of ridiculous outcomes.
I have no idea why Baseball feels so easy and for babies on a general basis if you don't actually care about it but its just that Baseball has the craziest highs and sickest injuries of any sport BUT 99% of the time its boring. I would say definitely get into the sport though its very well supported, you can have a lot of fun coming to America and seeing a game like what Americans think America is, is what a Baseball stadium actually is. Its the place you go to feel like you are getting the ultimate American Experience just go with someone or hit on every girl you see even if you are gay you can get into some interesting groups and conversations is my tip for you.
About to start watching this vid but I want to say that in todays Blue Jays @ Yanks game, Aaron Judge was hit in the shoulder on a fastball from Alek Monoah, and on a normal sized human being, it would hit the head
@@Serglofrm don’t remember. All I know is it hit him the elbow guard. Middle of the tricep, but not the shoulder or at the head. It was an inside pitch he didn’t have control over. He had zero control most of the game.
I’d like to see a team go with a strategy to have 4 starter rotation, where they pitch five innings maximum. Then they will have a designated reliever who pitches the final four innings. That reliever is essentially a second starter, and they would prepare and be conditioned as a starter. So, in effect, you have two 4 starter rotations, where each player pitches half a game. The manager could flip the pitcher that starts the first inning. The remaining 5 pitchers would be relievers. And you would use them sparingly, for extra inning games or blowout mop up duty. There would be no one inning closer. This strategy would balance out the pitch workload, where 8 pitchers would, theoretically, have the same pitch count in the season, and it would be less of a pitch count than what is average for starters.
Solve injuries with 1 new rule: All pitches over 90MPH result in immediate ejection. It's perfect. Umpires won't know what to do with it. Players will hate it. It would entirely ruin the sport. Which makes it perfect in the Manfred era.
@@SoWhiteItHurts i legit consiedered this the last few years. wonder if they did this how i ofc would then accept it or not. i dont watch the sport personally. my fav sport. but i done with the bs lies. but i do care about the past, present and future of it all. yes they be safer 90mph max speeds. but i think back to the 1-2 pitchers that threw over 95. how revered they were. how even Tony Gwenn struggled mightly to hit them. they are-were game changers. now they are not anamolies though. and it is ruining the sport........ well not alone one of many issues. but yea.... anyways i say best plan is to just move the mound back. and be more strict on players getting hit. also start banning for life cheaters and players like Manny Machado who intentionally try and hurt other players. there imo should be no second chances in those instances. ur just gone. bye. but i know the pos players union wouldnt allow that and fans will always bow down to the unions..... as for me i rather see the league die then bow down to any union
The answer is more teams, talent dilution. The farm teams should be emancipated from their MLB affiliates and organized into expansion teams to decentralize the MLB. As we approach the absolute limits of what human beings can do on a baseball diamond throwing the absolute best players in the world money can buy against one another, can we honestly say we've improved the game or made it more fun to watch? I see the pig under all its lipstick. I don't think people understand just how massive baseball was in the US before the Major League Owners devoured it.
@@TheOtherBradBird What I’m hearing is baseball needs promotion/relegation. Send the bottom 3 teams down to tripl A, and send the top 3 triple A teams to the majors. Repeat down the leagues. Just like soccer does.
Even with ACL surgery and rehabilitation, a player has a 50-50 chance of returning to form. Same with those that snap their Achilles tendon: Ryan Howard is one of the best examples of a player in today's game who snapped his Achilles, had surgery, and upon returning, never played at the same level as he did in 2008, forcing him to retire after he was released by the Phillies. On the other hand, David Beckham (yes, totally different sport) did the same like Ryan Howard, yet eventually returned to play for the LA Galaxy for the remainder of his MLS contract, even helping the team win a MLS Cup in his last season as a player, although by then, he was slowing down due to both the old injuries from his Premier League, MLS, and International playing days.
9:26 that curveball thrown by a Cubs pitcher might be the sickest and nastiest off speed pitch I’ve seen. The one right before this one which knee buckled the batter was FILTHY AF too! I remember watching Kerry Woods 20K’s game and the sliders he threw that game looked like a whiffle ball.😮
One thing that was not brought up was Jamie Moyer: the man pitched into his early 50s and even though his velocity slowed down, he would change his pitching game that took advantage of the strike zone.
I remember playing high school baseball and seeing a 70 mph ball coming at your face was enough to make you reconsider things, let alone a 90 to 100 mph ball coming at you.
I think the rise in arm injuries are due to max effort throwing constantly, less focus on control, and less focus on mechanics. This leads to wild pitchers that throw harder than the should inaccurately and also incorrectly which leads to arm injury from poor arm path and poor arm deceleration. The reason I mention this as well is that it also contributes to the rise in batters being injured by pitched balls.
I think the Tommy John surgery related injuries aren't from doing less it's from the fact they are throwing faster pitches with more movement and a larger range of motion and often go beyond what the human body is supposed to do in order to get a better pitch
As someone who played Finnish baseball in my teen years, I still can't believe how the hell baseball is fine with the bases as they are. In the Finnish version, the bases are huge, AND due to them all being on the edges of the field, you have literally 30ft of room to just run "through" the base while still being safe. Also tagging isn't used to get an out, so there is even less reason for collisions, just get the ball to the base the runner could advance to
8:02 I didn’t know Jason Voorhees played baseball Also if this HBP keeps going up they should do something like instead HBP = batter to 1st base maybe be more drastic to even HBP = batter to 2nd base or just toss the pitcher right away or move the mound back a few feet
Admittedly, I totally miss the home plate collision. That tying or winning run coming around third in the bottom of the ninth or extra innings, the ball hitting the cutoff man at just the right time for the relay to reach the plate at the exact same time as the runner. I mean, there are few things I’ve ever seen in baseball that were more exciting than those plays. I’m all for the player safety, I just miss that level of excitement lol
Really fantastic video. You have every famous baseball collision I remember - except for Nate Schierholtz completely blowing up the Yang Yang at home plate during the 2008 Olympics. Even though I'm a Giants fan (Nate's MLB team at the time), I always felt bad for the Chinese catcher, who was totally unprepared for the collision, and seems to have no idea that was within the rules of baseball at the time. Call me soft, but I love that baseball is essentially a pastoral game. I'm glad the violence is being phased out of this beautiful sport: from the removal of home plate collisions, to outlawing dirty slides into second base, and even less bench-clearing brawls. Very glad netting has been extended along the foul lines- a fan was going to die eventually, unless that was cleaned up. The last big potential problem hanging over baseball's head is line drive comebackers to the pitcher. Until forcefields are invented, I don't know what the solution is for this.
10:10 - The players also rejected the pitch clock until it was forced upon them. They had better get this under control on their own if they don't want something even more onerous.
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You forgot to mention that in the 90s pretty much every player was juiced to the gills. Roids help protect from injury IMMENSELY. It's a lot harder to get away with PEDs now, so a lot more injuries occur from overall less strength, especially in fine motor muscles. Also, because the body just does not fatigue at nearly the same rate when you're on juice, they were able to go harder and longer in the 90s, but with far fewer injuries.
For some reason I thought PEDS could be worse for injuries. Because for example: if you are on steroids and you are curling alot of weight it's easier to tear a bicep than not being on PEDS because steroids don't increase the strength in tendons. But you are right overall because steroids increase both muscle and bone strength.
Steroids do not protect from injury, steroids essentially turn you into a glass cannon. Capable of doing damage, sometimes self inflicted. When on steroids, ligaments are way likely to tear under extreme torque, extreme extension, or upon sudden use of the muscle. If your doctor gives you steroids they will tell you these things. Also back in the 90s there was a clear divide among players themselves about doing PEDs, it was a hot topic, so I'm not sure where you're getting this idea that 99% of players were juicing.
@@fireflames3639 that's what they say, but to me a lot of correlations in sports injuries suggest otherwise. It's just anecdotal and my own poor guess though. You're most likely right. Ligaments are probably more likely to tear.
I feel like in the Majors, the players aren't out there just having fun and playing the game to enjoy it. They are looking at everything so technically. Whether that is sabermeteics, film, advancments in training and practice methods, their health-care, or how they go about fine tuning their mechanics. It's almost like the players who get hurt are the ones not playing and having a natural flow to their game, but rather trying to implement all this training and information to throw the "perfect" pitch against that particular batter. It's like changing someone's delivery after they have been throwing a certain way all their life, then they need tommy John and are never the same again. Or hitters who get into slumps, and come back with a "changed" swing, then go from bad to worse when instead they should have just hit the cages more and fine tune your own swing, instead of adopting a whole new one.
Boxing had a similar phenomena, where by increasing the padding on the gloves the boxers could hit each other harder in the head without hurting their hands.
The stress on the body is insane. Most people don't understand. Although it's not nearly as stressful on the joints as pitching a baseball, but if one ever has hit 400-500 golf balls in a row one's elbow gets a bit sore.
So I play softball, am a pitcher, and wear a mask both while pitching and while hitting. It’s just always been a thing for me. I don’t know how it’s not required since there have been people that have gotten permanent damage to the brain or even killed by getting hit in the head while pitching
I'm a baseball pitcher and it's kinda hard to explain, but I think something about the overhand motion makes it super hard to wear a mask, and the ball is so small that while hitting the mask would have to block ur eyes. That's why I don't think it's required in baseball.
in Australia we have a game called cricket which is similar on a basic level but very different in multiple ways. umpires don't wear helmets (because they aren't right in the firing line), but one has been killed and many more injured from being hit by the ball. Also we don't have nets protecting the crowd from sixes (basically a home run), so tons of people have been hit as well. look up the basic rules, it's cool
This was actually super informative and well technically you’re not wrong but I think players and coaches are just being more careful with their players. How the hell did someone throw 73 complete games without having an issue in one season? Nolan Ryan an absolute stud to 235 pitches in 1 game without an issue in one game
They weren’t throwing as hard as they possibly could every pitch. That’s why. Nolan Ryan threw 100 with ease, and is probably one of the top 5 greatest pitchers ever. He was just built different
Because they were smart not to hurt their arms. They didn’t throw as hard as they could. Nolan Ryan and Randy just did it with ease. But I get it, that would work nowadays. Slow pitchers tend to get lit up now because the hitters are used to 95+ so anything below 90 is like hitting off a little leaguer for them
The sneeze related injuries aren’t rare, I remember Sammy Sosa doing it way back when. I’ve done it myself. Injuries to back, abdominal and oblique muscles happen easily when you’re muscular but maybe a little over-worked, as well as when you’ve got weak core muscles.
I wouldn't say it's due to weak core muscles; I'm a professional trumpet player, and I suffer from nearly profound deafness in my left ear. This wasn't something that was caused by a weakness of my own, but by the circumstances under which I worked in the Marine Corps band. These things can be completely out of your control, and it's an enormous deal when it's something like losing an ear as a musician or losing control of important muscles as an athlete.
4:25 "Michael Barrett thought this play was dirty because he didn't even have the ball yet!" What? Then he was committing interference by standing in front of home plate. Not just by the new rules.
I remember reading some years ago that there were more hit-by-pitches in the American League than the National League, and this difference was attributed to the DH rule. Basically, the pitcher who's throwing at guys' heads....had to step up to the plate in the NL. It will be interesting to see if we have more HBP now that the DH is universal.
I broke a catchers shoulder playing on my 7th grade team. Love how the collisions were kept in the game until recently, always was interesting to see the little guy on the team try to takeout a shortstop or catcher
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The cricket helmet is probably an answer. A ball striking that helmet still might concuss the batsman/batter/hitter, but atleast it protects the face and eyes etc completely. I wouldn't mind if MLB copied that helmet and made it optional, if not mandatory for batters.
Kind of related, my sons 8u travel team has this kid Cole who pitches way faster than any team we’ve gone against. The other night in our semi finals game he hit some kid in the nose and broke it. His nose was like an inch off where it normally was. That was at like 55ish, I couldn’t imagine taking one to the nose at 98mph 😅
I get that its a good thing that players aren't getting hurt as much from contact at 2nd and home, and that its a good thing. But as a Canadian hockey fan my need for violence in every sport misses those plays.
I like the point system and beam ejection proposals. If you think about it, organizations are only choosing hard throwing wild pitchers and instructing pitchers to throw high and tight because they did the analytics and found that the outs gained and limiting of slugging % by this strategy far outweighed the bases given up by hitting more batters. So now if you have to add to the formula that you could lose a starting pitcher and screw up rotations for that game and subsequent games the analytics change. Not to mention this will likely mean more action! Batters that aren’t being brushed off as much with high fastballs can get settled and will obviously also see more hittable pitches in the zone!
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Curious if at 2:34 you accounted for inflation with this number? If not, the 2023 equivalent would be almost 219 mil - still a 4x increase but also not nearly as bad considering it would double with inflation.
So basically, increased velocity in pitches is the root of all of baseball's problems today, but pitchers want to throw that hard because thats more likely to get guys out lol
Maybe the overload of sports medicine and “protection” has something to do with it. Kind of ironic that less players were injured in a era of baseball where your morning warm up was a jack and coke compared to now with everything in place.
I am nervously awaiting this exact scenario in the NFL. We're seeing a lot of high school and college players coming through systems that have limits on full contact practices. They won't be as conditioned to give and receive full speed hits as previous generations, so I'm anticipating a similar rise in injuries that we're seeing in the MLB
It did implement in Japan, Korea and Taiwan. In Japan, any HBP to head is immediately ejection. So as Korea. In Taiwan, rules are more stringent: 1.Any HBP to head 2.Any HBP right after Home run or when same pitcher facing the batter who had hit a home run earlier in this game. will be ejected.
Absolutely incredible video. Fantastic research. Seems like pitchers having to throw harder is the main culprit in these modern baseball injury problems
it's actually incredible that only 1 guy has died playing in the MLB. I still have the eerie feeling that we are going to watch somebody die playing baseball or even football sometime soon.
The most dangerous imo injury is the bunting of heaters. Why you might ask well most pitchers are thinking knee and down or belly button and up and what does that leave WIDE open 80% of the time. The one body part that will gladly swell to 3 to 4 times its normal size if crushed and may very well rupture from a ball coming back at 70 to 80 mph XD. A nut cup only blunts the force of a base ball. It doesn't actually prevent the force from still coming.
I read a whole 300 page biography about Dave Dravecky. He actually was born and raised in the town I live in, and one of our little league fields is named after him
Pitchers who hit a player should be ejected automatically. Change the math on whether it is "worth it" to pitch so far inside if you don't have extraordinary ball control. It's dangerous every time that it happens (even when it's an accident).
@@noble3515 Baseball fans hate leaving anything subjective to the umps, so no way that would ever happen. HBP to the head is 100x easier to implement objectively.
@@nalgene247 I agree, but even then that sometimes needs leeway because the ball slips, even if there's a sticky substance it can slip. I think that the reason that players turned down the rule change is because they realize that not every pitch at the head is intentional.
Not hard. 1) move the rubber back 6'-8', 2) redefine a walk as 3 balls 3) redefine a HBP as 2 bases and ALL runner's on base move up that many, a HBP to the head is 4 bases (earned), 4) if a runner doesn't avoid a collision (runner's responsibility) and another player is injured, the offending runner is suspended until the injured player is fully rehabbed and back ready to play, immediately
@@brettpeterson4941 look into it. the definition of what constitutes a walk or an out has changed. Like the definition of strike. Within my lifetime the strike zone has changed formally twice. If you make the penalty for hitting a player high enough to make it losing strategy then it leaves the game.
@@ArieKaufman34 look into the history of baseball rules changes and you might change your mind. Nothing sacred about 3 strikes an out, 4 balls a walk. Quite often baseball has altered the rules to make the game better.
I dont watch baseball at all and tbh i think its the most boring sport but you managed to break this down so well and keep this topic so intriguing that I stayed for the whole video. Keep it up
One time during high school game I was pitching it was during the 3rd 5th or something different but the facts are true I sprained my arm on a sideways throw on a fastball pitch I eventually returned after a while but you can actually believe this man. You just got a new sub
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Baseball is certainly in a struggle against itself, especially when you factor in that there's a deep drive into left field by Nick Castellanos and that'll be a home run
I wanna apologize to the people who sign my checks
@@scorpionz982 I don’t know if I’ll ever put this headset on again
This will never not be funny
@@EpicTyphlosionTV and that will make it a 4 nothing ball game
I consider myself a man of faith
“Pete Reiser fractured his skull running into a wall, was temporarily paralyzed from running into a different wall, and fractured his skull a second time after running into a third wall. As he was being carried off the field on a stretcher, the TV broadcast showed Reiser looking directly into the camera, which broke the fourth wall.”
Pete Reiser was one of the greatest natural talents of all time but he couldn’t run through brick walls despite his repeated efforts.
lmaoo
That’s good 😂
Well played
Whoa
although i understand how dangerous it is to run full speed into a wall without bracing yourself because you're looking in the opposite direction concentrating on a fly ball i've always appreciated the looney toons factor it presents as a viewer.
XDXD looney tunes factor lol
@@Luka_MK once I ran through the left field wall and left a hole that was a perfect silhouette of myself
Yeah, reality is stranger than fiction. Rewatching those baseball-centric episodes of the Looney Tunes after watching this video enhances the experience because every gag and joke made in them has context. They weren't just silly jokes that derive their humor from slapstick absurdity but they are satirizing actual real life happenings in the sport at the time...
Pure COMEDY!!!
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Change the hit batter rule into a walk to second base -- perhaps starting with the second player hit in a game. This would give control pitchers a greater relative worth.
I agree that it should be two bases most of the the time. Then after the first time, it's a triple, then the next time, a homer.
Yes!! Problem solved and a more interesting skill not wildly pitched game.
I actually think being hit by pitch should automatically fill the farthest open base. Hit by pitch is such a nasty part of the game. It should be more punishing for sure..
Also make more punishments hitting batters in games that don’t matter too… such as automatic fine included (all players select a charity, pitcher makes automatic donation of like $1,500 to batters charity), amount amplified in playoffs/WS.
Maybe second batter hit in game same game by a same pitcher is automatically ejected because obviously they don’t have control.
I can see a problem with this, is that batters would begin hugging the inside of the plate daring to be hit. However you could implement a 3-4 inch zone inside-zone off the plate reviewable by camera that doesn’t have punishment besides batter goes to first base. This would allow true accidents that just clip the batters knee or hand swinging the bat.
It’s those pitches that beam batters 16 inches off the plate basically in the upper body and head which need severe punishment.
funny, I was just thinking about this the other day. HBP = 2 bases.
It’s because they don’t allow pitchers to have any grippy substances anymore and are selectively banning players on that rule,even the best control pitchers have tough times because how slippery a brand new mlb ball is
17:45 Not to mention pitching is getting more reliant than ever in relieving pitchers, which not only brings the aforementioned lack of being used to pitch a lot of times per game, but also making the overall pitcher lose the "marathon" mindset of not forcing their throws to prevent injuries. Relievers are never holding back their pitches because they will be benched after one or two innings, and starters aren't holding back their pitches as much as before because they are more likely to be relieved sooner rather than later.
I think the biggest thing for pitchers even with the decreased pitch counts is increases on elbow torque. Ultimately it’s insane that we can throw as hard as we do and that throwing motion is literally tearing your shoulder/elbow appart with that amount of force. Realistically a lot of the older guys who were throwing 300+ innings a year were simply not throwing 100% effort for the vast majority of their pitches, if it all.
I think in the past it was more common to have actual shoulder wear issues for pitchers from over use but now it’s all elbow injuries due to increased torque which comes from pitch velocity. MLB is not actually solving any problems by decreasing pitch counts because it’s just allowing pitchers to throw harder for shorter outings which just exacerbates elbow injuries.
The pitches being thrown are of immense importance too. 200 knuckleballs probably does less damage (except to the catcher's pride) than 50 two-seam fastballs.
Also, pitchers from bygone eras had an arsenal of pitches. You'll be lucky today to find a GOOD pitcher with more than 2 great pitches. I remember pitchers having 4, sometimes 5!
@@monot00nz ?? There are still plenty of pitchers with large pitch arsenals, 4-5 pitches
Completely agree on this point. Facts of the matter are, pitchers are further incentivized to throw harder and they're maxing out their arm's limit. Looking at people that threw hard for many years, like Nolan Ryan (just not consistent 100's), it's clear that the immediate velocity gains are perceived to be more important than the overall health of the pitcher.
@@monot00nz That I agree with. Whitey Ford did not throw hard, but rather placed his pitches strategically do get men out. Also watch Sandy Koufax mix it up.
We've been seeing an increase in serious injuries across pretty much every sport. Considering that athletes today are bigger, faster and stronger than ever before, I believe we're coming to the absolute limit of what humans can physically do.
A big part of the rise in injuries is that while you can condition muscles, there's no way to strengthen tendons, hence the large amount of Tommy Johns and ACL tears.
@@kaminsod4077 yep exactly, and a tendon tear is gonna take you out for a whole year regardless of which tendon or what sport you play.
@@kaminsod4077 the increase in muscle mass makes it harder on tendons no? if i’m not mistaken that’s also a contributing factor
@@bradreed8938 You're exactly right
Yep that is one of many reasons why players today can barely make it past 30 playing at the top level anymore. I grew up playing baseball and my dad talked to me about overdoing it when it came to throwing. He told me that you only have so many throws in your arm before it gives out and as you throw faster and faster you're losing the possible throws at a more increased rate. You have to throw as hard as possible every pitch when you're in the bigs and that like he said it kills your arm. Pro sports need to take into account that we are reaching that limit where we are going to end up like race horses: used up when we're young adults and we don't have a happy life afterwards because we're endlessly healing from past injuries ruined bodies till the day those people die.
I’d be more concerned about these injuries if baseball actually existed
we get it, your life is boring
It does
@@Retired_channel No.
random ass niggas be saying “baseball is boring” while never watching or playing the game. Soccers the real boring sport where people roll on the ground for hours because they got poked
@@Retired_channel r/woooosh
I think another factor is that players and organizations have become more aware of injuries and are more likely to report it. Back in the day the mentality was often "just walk it off" so I can imagine quite a few injuries would go unreported because players tried to play through the pain. Now I feel like any amount of pain no matter how insignificant is brought up and taken care of. If a player today wakes up on the wrong side of the bed and has a sore back the organization will give them an ice bath and massage, 20 years ago they probably would have been told to suck it up and go to practice.
The guy ran into concrete walls more than once, pretty clear that they handed being hurt better. There's also more money invested in the game than ever before, so even if the player has a pride in his body, the money's gonna exploit him.
Start making players use hockey helmets and more specifically goalie helmets.
They are designed for 100mph shots in hockey right to the face and the vision in them is good enough for goalies to effectively stop those shots.
Give pitchers hockey helmets as well, except since they need to be more stream lined and have more peripheral vision give them player helmets with a fish bowl on it.
Instead of just fences, use plexiglass to protect the dug outs. They can also easily survive 100mph shots just fine while being as clear as glass, so they work perfect
Also use plexiglass for the walls around the stadium. If used in the design used in hockey using stanchions they provide a very good surface to bounce off of when hitting the wall.
Make a higher penalty for hitting the batter with the ball. Instead of one base, give 2. Or maybe while giving a single base take away one of their outs so that they need to get more to end the inning. You will see the league meta change, hopefully to resort to more skilled pitchers again or to pitches farther from the batter.
The simple fact is, don’t make safety the players choice. Make the league set that up and make those decisions.
None of the pitchers in this video ended up in a fielding position on the follow through. No wonder they got hit.
@@webventures they're not stressing fundamentals.
I like the idea of awarding two bases for hitting a batter.
@@webventures you try fielding a 110mph ball 60 feet away
Just finish delivery square to the plate. May pitchers do. Most do not.@@CertifiedJoshua
Damn the Dave Dravecky portion hit me hard. My cousin got a rare cancer when he was around 10 or 11 and passed away. My parents got my Dave's book about his life as I was a big baseball fan. I wrote him a letter and he even responded. I knew about his arm breaking while pitching from the book but I had never seen video of it.
And there's a drive into deep left field and Castellanos has gone deep
I remember that, I had that Dave Dravecky book too
I love the fact baseball is just pretty openly corrupt and always has been like it gives the entire history of the sport a rough character you just can't get anywhere else and there's always some kind of controversy going on to go a hilarious deep dive on .
I think you misunderstood the video. Baseball is made up of the greatest athletes alive, the corrupt ones are found out, and the rest are placed or displaced fairly easily. You could argue the point except you also proved it doing exactly what you just did...
@@KrakenIsland64 I dont think you understood his comment...
Do u even know what FIFA is
@@KrakenIsland64 eh, I think the problem is MLB just gets to choose what sort of corruption is okay or not.
@@allgonoemo4217 boxing too lol
your channel is one of those things that MLB should invest it. You're making baseball so much accesible and interesting to non baseball fan
Exactly the reason MLB should keep their grimy fingers as far away from this porky pie as possible.
yeah I don’t care about any sport but i love the channel
I always felt sorry for a non baseball player/ fan. Seems like you missed out on the major fun and lore of being American.
This channel would be a waste of money
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It baffles me that NASCAR can come up with walls that can be smashed into at 150+ mph but baseball can't figure out how to protect someone going ~15
10:55 Dale Earnhardt died because he didn't wear a hass device because he thought it was uncomfortable, nascar now mandates them. Some times the league just needs to tell them to suck it up.
The overvaluing of velocity I think is also a reason game length has become more of an issue. Higher velocity means less control which means fewer strikes which means more pitches. More pitches means a longer game which is magnified by needing more pitching changes with more pitches. If control was valued more, then you would have fewer pitches and also more hitting as well. I'm not sure what rule changes could be practically applied to getting teams to value control more, but lower velocity and more control would result in both a safer and more entertaining game.
Probably moving the mound back would be about the only thing to help that. The higher velo is probably also why pitchers take so dang long between pitches-gotta recharge. And you’re right about the efficiency of control pitchers: look at Greg Maddux.
Control will only matter more when we have umps that know what a strike is.
@@raramcgee4982 robo umps when?
Just change the count from 4-3 to 3-3, thats all, if they aren't allowed to throw so many balls they won't, and that will make it easier tobhit the ball too (Can't trick the batter as easier when they need to throw strikes).
Go back to pitching underhand as was done originally?
I couldnt imagine seeing 100 coming right at you. The worst hbp i had was against kid in high school probably not even throwing 80 and he still knock me out for a week when he nailed me in the side of my knee
In high school, I watched our team's ace hit a kid in the side of the helmet with a 92 MPH fastball. He crumpled to the ground like a sack of potatoes. It was surreal. Poor guy didn't even have time to move. He was out cold for about thirty seconds. No lasting injury, thankfully
I was in the dugout for a summer at a league for minor league caliber players. These guys take pitches and run to first base like nothing happens. You think it just hurts like a bitch but that’s it. Nope. You should see the welts the pitches leave. Even at 85mph. Gigantic black and blue welts 8 or so inches across. All the players told me it was super, super painful and if it hit them in the ass they couldn’t sit for days.
Probably the biggest clue I got though was the catchers, many of whom went on to have careers in the major leagues, telling me that it hurt every time they caught a fastball. Like there was no way to catch it where it didn’t hurt. And these pitchers were mostly throwing high 80s or low 90s in the summer, so I can’t imagine what it must be like when you go pro and almost everyone you catch is at least mid 90s.
Also thumb fractures were really common because catching it slightly wrong can break fingers.
I have no sympathy for MLB players getting hit in the face. They make face guards for that.
Agreed. I played in an over 30 hardball league a while back. Got hit on the back lower calf with a pitch that was probably going less than 80. I had difficulty walking without a limp for 24hrs and the the black & blue welt included a nice baseball stitch pattern. I was quite shocked how much that hurt.
@@deusvult6920 big tough guy huh?
Pitchers throwing at 100% power is what kills arms. Think about motors: if you run your car at 100% pedal to the floor all the time non-stop it won’t last. If you give it a relatively easy life it’ll last much much longer. Even just dropping down to 80% would greatly reduce wear on their arm.
Unfortunately, it seems that MLB has taken the route “that is a sacrifice i’m willing to make” if it might let them win.
Unlike an engine, the human body can be trained to take on larger loads. Trevor Bauer said that pitchers should train like long distance rumners. Run over-distance, while training, then race day is the easy day. Similiarily, pitchers should over use their arms on training days. Their bodies get a break on game day.
As a 21 year old who grew up right after “travel ball” exploded, I think that had a lot to do with the arm injuries we see on the pitching side. My dad grew up playing baseball, but back then, it was only little league (which was more competitive than most little leagues today)or your high school team. Both of these enable an off season in which your arm can rest. The year round travel ball cycle doesn’t allow for this. Guys are just throwing more year round from a young age, and are specializing earlier.
Think you have a point. I think throwing a football during football season helped my baseball cause develop strength and elasticity in rotator cuff. I serve hundreds of balls in tennis and quite fast and then kick serves which have an inside out delivery like a screwball or the turn over change up and I never get a sore or stiff arm. I think that's insane.
@@willkittwk I remember seeing photos of Nolan Ryan throwing footballs in a Rangers uniform, and hearing about how they did that for arm strength training. Seemed to work for him. Maybe it's something to do with throwing a heavier ball at a lower speed over a longer distance.
@@blahblah49000if the ball is thrown at a greater speed (assuming same angle) the distance will be shorter, so wdym
@@noahhannon2305 "throwing footballs"
This channel is just flat out incredible. The amount of research you had to do for this is insane. I send your links to my baseball friends constantly.
This is the most painful baseball video I’ve ever watched, man…constant stream of arm blowouts, wall collisions and headshots 😬
As a European that doesn't really know any of the American sports beside basketball, I really love your videos. Without you, I'd have never known how crazy and wild of a sport baseball actually is lmao
Baseball is weird isn’t it?! That’s why I love it so much lol
A lot of people think baseball is boring but I think most of them say that because they don't know much about baseball... its the weirdest, most unlikely sport I know of and there's such a huge element of randomness inherent to the game that it makes for all kinds of ridiculous outcomes.
@@sneersh9107 yup
You should really get into baseball, it's an awesome weird game and it's full of little nuances and tactical manipulation.
I have no idea why Baseball feels so easy and for babies on a general basis if you don't actually care about it but its just that Baseball has the craziest highs and sickest injuries of any sport BUT 99% of the time its boring. I would say definitely get into the sport though its very well supported, you can have a lot of fun coming to America and seeing a game like what Americans think America is, is what a Baseball stadium actually is. Its the place you go to feel like you are getting the ultimate American Experience just go with someone or hit on every girl you see even if you are gay you can get into some interesting groups and conversations is my tip for you.
About to start watching this vid but I want to say that in todays Blue Jays @ Yanks game, Aaron Judge was hit in the shoulder on a fastball from Alek Monoah, and on a normal sized human being, it would hit the head
In the elbow guard.
@@throgerino2731 muscle memory reflexes or the trajectory?
Manoah is a massive human being as well probably one of the last pitchers anyone wants to get hit by
Dude leads the majors in HBP, he has shit control. And still yells at anyone who looks at him.
@@Serglofrm don’t remember. All I know is it hit him the elbow guard. Middle of the tricep, but not the shoulder or at the head. It was an inside pitch he didn’t have control over. He had zero control most of the game.
I’d like to see a team go with a strategy to have 4 starter rotation, where they pitch five innings maximum. Then they will have a designated reliever who pitches the final four innings. That reliever is essentially a second starter, and they would prepare and be conditioned as a starter. So, in effect, you have two 4 starter rotations, where each player pitches half a game. The manager could flip the pitcher that starts the first inning.
The remaining 5 pitchers would be relievers. And you would use them sparingly, for extra inning games or blowout mop up duty. There would be no one inning closer.
This strategy would balance out the pitch workload, where 8 pitchers would, theoretically, have the same pitch count in the season, and it would be less of a pitch count than what is average for starters.
Baseball back in the day be like you can kill each other but if you have some glue on your hand you’re suspended for half the season
Are you really the USOA leader
This isn't exactly a genius take but I would imagine that the increased velocity both to the plate and off the bat has something to do with it.
Wow
Solve injuries with 1 new rule: All pitches over 90MPH result in immediate ejection. It's perfect. Umpires won't know what to do with it. Players will hate it. It would entirely ruin the sport. Which makes it perfect in the Manfred era.
@@SoWhiteItHurts i legit consiedered this the last few years. wonder if they did this how i ofc would then accept it or not. i dont watch the sport personally. my fav sport. but i done with the bs lies. but i do care about the past, present and future of it all.
yes they be safer 90mph max speeds. but i think back to the 1-2 pitchers that threw over 95. how revered they were. how even Tony Gwenn struggled mightly to hit them. they are-were game changers. now they are not anamolies though. and it is ruining the sport........ well not alone one of many issues. but yea....
anyways i say best plan is to just move the mound back. and be more strict on players getting hit. also start banning for life cheaters and players like Manny Machado who intentionally try and hurt other players. there imo should be no second chances in those instances. ur just gone. bye. but i know the pos players union wouldnt allow that and fans will always bow down to the unions..... as for me i rather see the league die then bow down to any union
The answer is more teams, talent dilution. The farm teams should be emancipated from their MLB affiliates and organized into expansion teams to decentralize the MLB.
As we approach the absolute limits of what human beings can do on a baseball diamond throwing the absolute best players in the world money can buy against one another, can we honestly say we've improved the game or made it more fun to watch? I see the pig under all its lipstick.
I don't think people understand just how massive baseball was in the US before the Major League Owners devoured it.
@@TheOtherBradBird What I’m hearing is baseball needs promotion/relegation.
Send the bottom 3 teams down to tripl A, and send the top 3 triple A teams to the majors. Repeat down the leagues.
Just like soccer does.
7:18 Imagine how even better Mantle could have been on two good legs
Even with ACL surgery and rehabilitation, a player has a 50-50 chance of returning to form. Same with those that snap their Achilles tendon: Ryan Howard is one of the best examples of a player in today's game who snapped his Achilles, had surgery, and upon returning, never played at the same level as he did in 2008, forcing him to retire after he was released by the Phillies. On the other hand, David Beckham (yes, totally different sport) did the same like Ryan Howard, yet eventually returned to play for the LA Galaxy for the remainder of his MLS contract, even helping the team win a MLS Cup in his last season as a player, although by then, he was slowing down due to both the old injuries from his Premier League, MLS, and International playing days.
9:26 that curveball thrown by a Cubs pitcher might be the sickest and nastiest off speed pitch I’ve seen. The one right before this one which knee buckled the batter was FILTHY AF too! I remember watching Kerry Woods 20K’s game and the sliders he threw that game looked like a whiffle ball.😮
Id rather be tackled by a 300 lbs lineman than be hit by a 100 mph base ball any day of the week....
One thing that was not brought up was Jamie Moyer: the man pitched into his early 50s and even though his velocity slowed down, he would change his pitching game that took advantage of the strike zone.
Even in his 30s his fastball was 80-83 mph. He lasted a long, long time!
I remember playing high school baseball and seeing a 70 mph ball coming at your face was enough to make you reconsider things, let alone a 90 to 100 mph ball coming at you.
Baseball is the only sport I'm kinda scared of while playing.
I think the rise in arm injuries are due to max effort throwing constantly, less focus on control, and less focus on mechanics. This leads to wild pitchers that throw harder than the should inaccurately and also incorrectly which leads to arm injury from poor arm path and poor arm deceleration. The reason I mention this as well is that it also contributes to the rise in batters being injured by pitched balls.
I think the Tommy John surgery related injuries aren't from doing less it's from the fact they are throwing faster pitches with more movement and a larger range of motion and often go beyond what the human body is supposed to do in order to get a better pitch
As someone who played Finnish baseball in my teen years, I still can't believe how the hell baseball is fine with the bases as they are. In the Finnish version, the bases are huge, AND due to them all being on the edges of the field, you have literally 30ft of room to just run "through" the base while still being safe. Also tagging isn't used to get an out, so there is even less reason for collisions, just get the ball to the base the runner could advance to
9:29 This Reoccurring theme is What Lead Me out of Baseball ⚾️ it also didn’t help that I was “Left Handed”
1:07 Baseball is apparently turning into Soccer.
Who would believe it? Baseball players are now diving 💀
8:02 I didn’t know Jason Voorhees played baseball
Also if this HBP keeps going up they should do something like instead HBP = batter to 1st base maybe be more drastic to even HBP = batter to 2nd base or just toss the pitcher right away or move the mound back a few feet
simple rule ... when a player gets hit by a pitch, he's awarded 1st base.
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Admittedly, I totally miss the home plate collision. That tying or winning run coming around third in the bottom of the ninth or extra innings, the ball hitting the cutoff man at just the right time for the relay to reach the plate at the exact same time as the runner. I mean, there are few things I’ve ever seen in baseball that were more exciting than those plays. I’m all for the player safety, I just miss that level of excitement lol
Really fantastic video. You have every famous baseball collision I remember - except for Nate Schierholtz completely blowing up the Yang Yang at home plate during the 2008 Olympics. Even though I'm a Giants fan (Nate's MLB team at the time), I always felt bad for the Chinese catcher, who was totally unprepared for the collision, and seems to have no idea that was within the rules of baseball at the time.
Call me soft, but I love that baseball is essentially a pastoral game. I'm glad the violence is being phased out of this beautiful sport: from the removal of home plate collisions, to outlawing dirty slides into second base, and even less bench-clearing brawls. Very glad netting has been extended along the foul lines- a fan was going to die eventually, unless that was cleaned up. The last big potential problem hanging over baseball's head is line drive comebackers to the pitcher. Until forcefields are invented, I don't know what the solution is for this.
We need a full Denny McLain video his life and career is insane
10:10 - The players also rejected the pitch clock until it was forced upon them. They had better get this under control on their own if they don't want something even more onerous.
i just want everyone to know that I've been watching every single video this man has posted for the last 6 months and I honestly couldn't name you 5 baseball players I know nothing about baseball but the presentation of his videos are amazing and make me keep coming back to watch your latest video.
I can only name 2 baseball players. Jackie Robinson and Babe Ruth.
Keep the vids coming. You do such great work. Cheers
You forgot to mention that in the 90s pretty much every player was juiced to the gills. Roids help protect from injury IMMENSELY. It's a lot harder to get away with PEDs now, so a lot more injuries occur from overall less strength, especially in fine motor muscles. Also, because the body just does not fatigue at nearly the same rate when you're on juice, they were able to go harder and longer in the 90s, but with far fewer injuries.
For some reason I thought PEDS could be worse for injuries. Because for example: if you are on steroids and you are curling alot of weight it's easier to tear a bicep than not being on PEDS because steroids don't increase the strength in tendons. But you are right overall because steroids increase both muscle and bone strength.
Steroids actually increase injury rate, especially ligamentous tears, due to increased force but not as increased ligamentous strength.
Steroids do not protect from injury, steroids essentially turn you into a glass cannon. Capable of doing damage, sometimes self inflicted. When on steroids, ligaments are way likely to tear under extreme torque, extreme extension, or upon sudden use of the muscle. If your doctor gives you steroids they will tell you these things. Also back in the 90s there was a clear divide among players themselves about doing PEDs, it was a hot topic, so I'm not sure where you're getting this idea that 99% of players were juicing.
@@fireflames3639 that's what they say, but to me a lot of correlations in sports injuries suggest otherwise. It's just anecdotal and my own poor guess though. You're most likely right. Ligaments are probably more likely to tear.
I feel like in the Majors, the players aren't out there just having fun and playing the game to enjoy it. They are looking at everything so technically. Whether that is sabermeteics, film, advancments in training and practice methods, their health-care, or how they go about fine tuning their mechanics.
It's almost like the players who get hurt are the ones not playing and having a natural flow to their game, but rather trying to implement all this training and information to throw the "perfect" pitch against that particular batter. It's like changing someone's delivery after they have been throwing a certain way all their life, then they need tommy John and are never the same again. Or hitters who get into slumps, and come back with a "changed" swing, then go from bad to worse when instead they should have just hit the cages more and fine tune your own swing, instead of adopting a whole new one.
6:37 whoever caught that bat deserves a ring
6:32 homie got caught for the Tombstone piledriver
11:30 he tried to keep his eye on the ball
0:22 thats gotta be some sort of ancient healing technique
9:47 "Studies show faster the pitch is, the more injuries it causes."
I wonder of the massive uptick in spin rate and velocity can contribute to more Tommy John surgery.
Pitchers can’t use that sticky stuff no more. Spin rate won’t be a problem lol
Boxing had a similar phenomena, where by increasing the padding on the gloves the boxers could hit each other harder in the head without hurting their hands.
Pitching is no joke; I remember the first time I tried it with a target on a fence, I threw maybe 15 - 20 pitches… My elbow/UCL was sore for a week.
The stress on the body is insane. Most people don't understand. Although it's not nearly as stressful on the joints as pitching a baseball, but if one ever has hit 400-500 golf balls in a row one's elbow gets a bit sore.
man love your videos and want more but love the time you take with the research you do to come out with quality videos.
14:00 Glenn Allen Hill sounds like he might have had a run in with the mob.
So I play softball, am a pitcher, and wear a mask both while pitching and while hitting. It’s just always been a thing for me. I don’t know how it’s not required since there have been people that have gotten permanent damage to the brain or even killed by getting hit in the head while pitching
I'm a baseball pitcher and it's kinda hard to explain, but I think something about the overhand motion makes it super hard to wear a mask, and the ball is so small that while hitting the mask would have to block ur eyes. That's why I don't think it's required in baseball.
@@squisychikun4235 they can't engineer a mask to deal with this???
@@dragonchr15 no clue, but honestly even if they did nobody would wear it
in Australia we have a game called cricket which is similar on a basic level but very different in multiple ways. umpires don't wear helmets (because they aren't right in the firing line), but one has been killed and many more injured from being hit by the ball. Also we don't have nets protecting the crowd from sixes (basically a home run), so tons of people have been hit as well. look up the basic rules, it's cool
5:48 I always love that Ortiz "slide" XD
This was actually super informative and well technically you’re not wrong but I think players and coaches are just being more careful with their players. How the hell did someone throw 73 complete games without having an issue in one season? Nolan Ryan an absolute stud to 235 pitches in 1 game without an issue in one game
They weren’t throwing as hard as they possibly could every pitch. That’s why. Nolan Ryan threw 100 with ease, and is probably one of the top 5 greatest pitchers ever. He was just built different
Because they were smart not to hurt their arms. They didn’t throw as hard as they could. Nolan Ryan and Randy just did it with ease. But I get it, that would work nowadays. Slow pitchers tend to get lit up now because the hitters are used to 95+ so anything below 90 is like hitting off a little leaguer for them
When you talked about the salary paid to injured players comparing the 98 season to last year Is that accounting for inflation?
I was wondering the same thing. I know today’s contracts are much larger than 1998. The Angels had $100 million of that money last year.
The sneeze related injuries aren’t rare, I remember Sammy Sosa doing it way back when. I’ve done it myself. Injuries to back, abdominal and oblique muscles happen easily when you’re muscular but maybe a little over-worked, as well as when you’ve got weak core muscles.
I wouldn't say it's due to weak core muscles; I'm a professional trumpet player, and I suffer from nearly profound deafness in my left ear. This wasn't something that was caused by a weakness of my own, but by the circumstances under which I worked in the Marine Corps band. These things can be completely out of your control, and it's an enormous deal when it's something like losing an ear as a musician or losing control of important muscles as an athlete.
4:25 "Michael Barrett thought this play was dirty because he didn't even have the ball yet!"
What? Then he was committing interference by standing in front of home plate. Not just by the new rules.
I know dude, I came to the comments to see if anyone else agreed.
I remember reading some years ago that there were more hit-by-pitches in the American League than the National League, and this difference was attributed to the DH rule. Basically, the pitcher who's throwing at guys' heads....had to step up to the plate in the NL. It will be interesting to see if we have more HBP now that the DH is universal.
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kicking someone in the face and the refs not caring is gold
This is for some reason the most entertaining content I’ve seen in a while
I broke a catchers shoulder playing on my 7th grade team. Love how the collisions were kept in the game until recently, always was interesting to see the little guy on the team try to takeout a shortstop or catcher
17:34 know one gunna talk about how that’s mlb the show
There’s no footage 😂
2:51 but if you take into account inflation, I think owners are saving money. Unless both numbers are taking into consideration inflation
Every time @baseballdoesn'texist, uploads a video, you know that shit is going down! You make such incredible content and I always stop what I am doing to watch your video. You are the best content creator on TH-cam.
Comments like this are so fucking cringe
The cricket helmet is probably an answer. A ball striking that helmet still might concuss the batsman/batter/hitter, but atleast it protects the face and eyes etc completely.
I wouldn't mind if MLB copied that helmet and made it optional, if not mandatory for batters.
Kind of related, my sons 8u travel team has this kid Cole who pitches way faster than any team we’ve gone against. The other night in our semi finals game he hit some kid in the nose and broke it. His nose was like an inch off where it normally was. That was at like 55ish, I couldn’t imagine taking one to the nose at 98mph 😅
I get that its a good thing that players aren't getting hurt as much from contact at 2nd and home, and that its a good thing. But as a Canadian hockey fan my need for violence in every sport misses those plays.
Its so dangerous they play two games a day
I like the point system and beam ejection proposals. If you think about it, organizations are only choosing hard throwing wild pitchers and instructing pitchers to throw high and tight because they did the analytics and found that the outs gained and limiting of slugging % by this strategy far outweighed the bases given up by hitting more batters. So now if you have to add to the formula that you could lose a starting pitcher and screw up rotations for that game and subsequent games the analytics change. Not to mention this will likely mean more action! Batters that aren’t being brushed off as much with high fastballs can get settled and will obviously also see more hittable pitches in the zone!
Nah that's stupid.
I've never had an interest in baseball, or sports period. And yet, I've been watching/listening to your vids all day at work. I don't think I've watched a vid on sports ever before coming across a vid of yours that was seemingly 100% randomly recommended to me, and now I'm a sub of yours.
These algorithms are getting scary good, and you have been blessed lol
Curious if at 2:34 you accounted for inflation with this number?
If not, the 2023 equivalent would be almost 219 mil - still a 4x increase but also not nearly as bad considering it would double with inflation.
So basically, increased velocity in pitches is the root of all of baseball's problems today, but pitchers want to throw that hard because thats more likely to get guys out lol
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Maybe the overload of sports medicine and “protection” has something to do with it. Kind of ironic that less players were injured in a era of baseball where your morning warm up was a jack and coke compared to now with everything in place.
I am nervously awaiting this exact scenario in the NFL. We're seeing a lot of high school and college players coming through systems that have limits on full contact practices. They won't be as conditioned to give and receive full speed hits as previous generations, so I'm anticipating a similar rise in injuries that we're seeing in the MLB
The better football helmets got, the more likely players were to use their heads as a weapon. "Spearing" didn't exist when they used leather helmets.
@@ComradeArthur it would be interesting to see them try a no pad version of foot ball.
@@user-gm4kv2my4u Rugby?
@@ComradeArthur football and rugby are about as different as 2 contact sports could be
Also in 2021 they banned pitchers from using banned sticky grip which also contributed to loss of control and batters being struck by pitch
It did implement in Japan, Korea and Taiwan.
In Japan, any HBP to head is immediately ejection.
So as Korea.
In Taiwan, rules are more stringent:
1.Any HBP to head
2.Any HBP right after Home run or when same pitcher facing the batter who had hit a home run earlier in this game.
will be ejected.
At 5:57 that dudes head hit his butt!
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Absolutely incredible video. Fantastic research. Seems like pitchers having to throw harder is the main culprit in these modern baseball injury problems
it's actually incredible that only 1 guy has died playing in the MLB. I still have the eerie feeling that we are going to watch somebody die playing baseball or even football sometime soon.
oh for sure, there is no way things can keep on the same track without deaths increasing exponentially
The most dangerous imo injury is the bunting of heaters. Why you might ask well most pitchers are thinking knee and down or belly button and up and what does that leave WIDE open 80% of the time. The one body part that will gladly swell to 3 to 4 times its normal size if crushed and may very well rupture from a ball coming back at 70 to 80 mph XD. A nut cup only blunts the force of a base ball. It doesn't actually prevent the force from still coming.
I read a whole 300 page biography about Dave Dravecky. He actually was born and raised in the town I live in, and one of our little league fields is named after him
Pitchers who hit a player should be ejected automatically. Change the math on whether it is "worth it" to pitch so far inside if you don't have extraordinary ball control. It's dangerous every time that it happens (even when it's an accident).
I agree with hits to the head at least. I'm surprised the players turned down that rule change.
@@nalgene247 then make batters who crowd the plate stand back. Make it illegal to crowd.
So you’re saying if you knick a batter on his elbow guard, you should automatically be tossed? Ridiculous.
@@noble3515 Baseball fans hate leaving anything subjective to the umps, so no way that would ever happen. HBP to the head is 100x easier to implement objectively.
@@nalgene247 I agree, but even then that sometimes needs leeway because the ball slips, even if there's a sticky substance it can slip. I think that the reason that players turned down the rule change is because they realize that not every pitch at the head is intentional.
Amazing work. I always look forward to these vids and I don't even like baseball.
Not hard. 1) move the rubber back 6'-8', 2) redefine a walk as 3 balls 3) redefine a HBP as 2 bases and ALL runner's on base move up that many, a HBP to the head is 4 bases (earned), 4) if a runner doesn't avoid a collision (runner's responsibility) and another player is injured, the offending runner is suspended until the injured player is fully rehabbed and back ready to play, immediately
These are by far the dumbest rule changes imaginable
Did u seriously just suggest redefining a walk to three balls
none of those are good bro, you're drunk
@@brettpeterson4941 look into it. the definition of what constitutes a walk or an out has changed. Like the definition of strike. Within my lifetime the strike zone has changed formally twice. If you make the penalty for hitting a player high enough to make it losing strategy then it leaves the game.
@@ArieKaufman34 look into the history of baseball rules changes and you might change your mind. Nothing sacred about 3 strikes an out, 4 balls a walk. Quite often baseball has altered the rules to make the game better.
Hit by pitch should be 2 bases imo that would discourage inside pitches unless you have the control for it
5:30 Shohei Ohtani tonight jacked his shoulder up sliding into second
0:58 You mean his son running him over?
I dont watch baseball at all and tbh i think its the most boring sport but you managed to break this down so well and keep this topic so intriguing that I stayed for the whole video. Keep it up
Baseball may be dangerous but softball isn't dangerous because they have caged helmets and mask in the infield
One time during high school game I was pitching it was during the 3rd 5th or something different but the facts are true I sprained my arm on a sideways throw on a fastball pitch I eventually returned after a while but you can actually believe this man. You just got a new sub
Don't forget in 2010 When 2 Braves outfielders Jason Heyward and Nate McClouth collided. That was ugly.
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im not here for jesus preston im here for baseball.
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@@amandadavis9487 good for him. we’re here for baseball.
@@amandadavis9487 good for him. i’m here for baseball, not for jesus.