I had a 20” bar on my 046 which made for a nicely balanced unit. When I fitted a 30” bar it nose-dived on workbench so now setting saw down on ground like before it’ll have nose wheel in dirt. I should have thought about saw balance!
We talked about this briefly on one of my videos. It's definitely a personal preference. A long bar is nice when you are cutting small, soft woods. But try standing up to buck a 16" white oak and you are going to be there awhile. Just doesn't work well. You need to set the dogs and push that saw through the hard wood. Just can't do it standing up. Better than a long bar is to find a way to get the log up and off the ground. Now that is a back saver! Good video and good discussion!
Hey North Fork! Yes we did I remember chatting about it it! For me my 257 is perfect because I don’t have large redwoods around my area haha so the 28” bar I can buck almost anything! Anything hardwood that’s large I can cut 3/4 of it with this bar and finish with the echo 257! Good chatting
Hey Jay!! I absolutely agree size matters 😜!! I don't always run a longer bar but probably should more! What you all said makes perfect sense!! Stay safe my friend!!
@@s.o.f.fpatriotsforlife414 Oh man! if its not too much trouble send me a video of that beast! Homesteadjay35@gmail.com id love to see it! I love saws! I need to build my collection!
@@HomesteadJay That is my saw, right on. I have had my echo cs-590 for 12 years now. And i have even used a older 26" bar on it with no problems. It is actually a really great saw for the price. And i have had zero issues. I am picking up another one for my teenage son to run. But going to keep him with safety chain and 20" bar for now. A video on the topic of " If you only had one saw" would be awesome, especially for people getting their first chain saw for fire wood cutting.
Clearing up small trees and limbing like you are doing in the video a long bar on a medium chainsaw like the husky 257 looks like it may work. I normally am bucking 12' to 24 inch hickory and oak. I don't think a 28' bar would do so well on my medium chainsaw. It takes every bit of the power of my chainsaw to run my 20 inch bar.
Hey John! Thats exactly it! I run this husky for a set size of logs to buck up! I am not cutting 28" oak with this lol I use it for all my pine slabs I burn in my outdoor wood boiler and use this for bucking as you saw so its very specific for my situation!
Well, that peewee stuff you're doing i do with my pruner saw (52cc w/12 inch bar). i see no reason to tie up a powerful high $ chainsaw with long bar and skip chain when i can do just about all i need with 20'' bar and full chisel. i am in SEast so lots of oak.
Theres a time and place for short bar indeed. If im cutting firewood poles in a pile or being held up by a excavator the shorter bar is key as its gonna cut faster.
🤣🤣🤣 That is so funny Sir 👍 You forgot to mention it does takes longer to sharpen the chains but it does save you back and less prone to kick back's 👍 No, it does happen to all of us ( two safety glasses !!! ) Ho Men you will be for sure on potatoes peeling duty for a very long time if you do said that to your wife 🤣👍 Keep up the very high good spirits Sir Cheers !!!!
ey, as far as 50cc saws go, I got a older MS270 (snow flake/cold weather version) and a 550xp Mark II, the MS270 screams with a 20" 3/8 pitch round chain noooo problamo... Wether its falling a 20+ inch tree doesn't care... Its just happy to burn gas and hose me down with chips. As for the 550xp that one has a 24" SugiHara bar, runnin a 3/8" sprocket for the 3/8 pitch full chisel square ground chain. Let me tell ya... 50cc, don't have no issue with that sunk in a tree. However a 28" or larger I'd defiantly only do bucking with, without stepping up to the ol 60-70cc saws. But I'd definitively say a 50cc (at least the two I have) can easily handle up to a 24" for regular use( some felling, an a lot of bucking ) maybe a 2-4 hours of cutting a day. If its an 8 hr day I'd say, yep go with the big boy 70cc to sling that 28" + chip sprayer. But where I live about 90% of the trees on my land are 30" diameter or larger at the base. I don't feel like making 12 cuts with a 10" bar to make it happen if ya know what I mean. (cough... walmart pro saws.. cough)
Hey Gitty! Thanks for sharing your two cents on the subject! Around me I have a very young forest and a 20" bar is sufficient for all my felling needs on my CS-590 I love the long bar on the husky cause its my designated buckin saw I dont fell with that heavy lady haha thanks for chatting!
I don’t usually run a log bar for limbing . I like it for bucking though. It gets pretty thick where I’m limbing and I like having a lighter saw that I have complete control over, especially when there’s vines and briars. You’re the only other person I’ve seen that carries while cutting wood. I believe you should always have a gun of some sort with you when you’re in the woods. Personally I like a revolver. No worry about the possibility of a jam, it always goes bang, and if it doesn’t, just pull the trigger again. Easy to do with one hand if the other hand is immobilized. No slide to rack (try clearing a jam one handed). 2 speed loaders (1 in each front pocket, in case something happens to one hand, I always can get ammo out of my pocket with a good hand) and a crimson trace on the grip. It’s surprising what comes to the sound of a saw. Bears are curious, and rattlesnakes/copperheads like brush piles, but my biggest problem has been a sick fox or raccoon. Before they start foaming at the mouth, they get super aggressive and will just run up attacking and biting at you. Another reason I wear chaps. Nice video, sorry for the long comment.
Hey Denny! Dont be sorry for the long comment Ill chat all day long! I always bring my gun because I dont know who/what is out here! We live near the NH white mountains and safe to say theres plenty of curious wildlife! Ive been startled by a coyote and saw a bear cub just this year so yeah! Once i expand my gun collection I think id invest in a revolver for said reasons you just said. Id rather have it than not!
Always run the shortest bar you can get by with. Why? Here is why, long bar and chain costs more every time you buy one, long bar reduces power, long bar is harder to control safety wise, takes longer to sharpen chain.
I respectfully disagree! I run a skip chain which has prob less teeth then my full house 20” on my echo! It also depends what you are cutting/bucking so the long bar is perfect for my situation!
It might be nice to us a longer blade, but there are some real downsides. The longer the chain, the more friction and powerloss. Also you'l need more oil . But that is not that bad. The biggest problem is safety. Longer blades tend to give accidental kickbacks when touching somthing at the far end, but even worse when lowering the saw gives you much more risk of cuttinge your own feet or leg when getting tired of the bigger weight and the londer blade. SO i do not realy agree with you that longer is bigger. If so, they would just make one long size ;-)
That chainsaw you got looks small to us. That bar might help you out for them small jobs you do. It's not good to be running a chainsaw in the woods with a gun on your side you might fall down. You might get hurt.
Hey Mark! I always have it on me, not chambered for that reason though. I dont carry it one in the chamber for the reason if it gets hung up in the brush and gets pulled out of the holster or if I fell! There are a lot of coyotes/bears up here (NH white mountains) so yeah I always take it! Plus I never know if there is anyone out here who knows! Rather have it than not!
Look at Buckin Billy Rays channel, he has been saying "Stand up and buck" for years. Even has a t shirt now with it. I use a 28 too on my Echo 620, works great for bucking logs. buckinbillyray.com/product/stand-up-buck-t-shirt/
Hey Redrider yes ive watched buckin before! I just wanted to show on my channel because the 257 with the 28 is soooo nice! I can work the woods all day! Im glad that 28 works good on your 620! Thanks for checking it out!
I had a 20” bar on my 046 which made for a nicely balanced unit. When I fitted a 30” bar it nose-dived on workbench so now setting saw down on ground like before it’ll have nose wheel in dirt. I should have thought about saw balance!
Yes its something to consider but id rather take nose heavy then bending over indeed!
Nice video, glad to see a fellow NH guy!!
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We talked about this briefly on one of my videos. It's definitely a personal preference. A long bar is nice when you are cutting small, soft woods. But try standing up to buck a 16" white oak and you are going to be there awhile. Just doesn't work well. You need to set the dogs and push that saw through the hard wood. Just can't do it standing up. Better than a long bar is to find a way to get the log up and off the ground. Now that is a back saver! Good video and good discussion!
Hey North Fork! Yes we did I remember chatting about it it! For me my 257 is perfect because I don’t have large redwoods around my area haha so the 28” bar I can buck almost anything! Anything hardwood that’s large I can cut 3/4 of it with this bar and finish with the echo 257! Good chatting
I can not find a husky small mount 28” bar for my 262xp
Im not sure! You can call Oregon customer service and let them know what you have and they can search for you
Same here I ported a couple small saw and ran a 25in and 28in bar and chain helps alot when bucking timber
Yes long bar is amazing! My 257 with 28" bar is mint for bucking!
Right on saves your back for sure
Hey Jay!! I absolutely agree size matters 😜!! I don't always run a longer bar but probably should more! What you all said makes perfect sense!! Stay safe my friend!!
Hey Tim! If you have a saw you can designate your bucking saw it will save you in the long run! Thanks for tuning in!
28” all way coming from a guy that has had a couple back surgery’s 👍🏻 so size does matter , go big or go home , love the drone footage too
Hell ya! No bending over man lol screw that!
Im running a 32 on a remington 754 88cc
ahhh i love those old remingtons haha I need to get one lol! Sounds like she rips!
@@HomesteadJay its a monster, the sound is unreal and sometimes I see flames from the muffler
@@s.o.f.fpatriotsforlife414 Oh man! if its not too much trouble send me a video of that beast! Homesteadjay35@gmail.com id love to see it! I love saws! I need to build my collection!
Good video. subscribed
dont need the music tho, cutting sound is better. :)
Question: if you had one chain saw what length bar and cc would you have?
Hey Travis! I think ill make a video on this! What a good suggestion! Id have to go with the Echo CS-590 with 20" bar!
@@HomesteadJay That is my saw, right on. I have had my echo cs-590 for 12 years now. And i have even used a older 26" bar on it with no problems. It is actually a really great saw for the price. And i have had zero issues. I am picking up another one for my teenage son to run. But going to keep him with safety chain and 20" bar for now. A video on the topic of " If you only had one saw" would be awesome, especially for people getting their first chain saw for fire wood cutting.
Clearing up small trees and limbing like you are doing in the video a long bar on a medium chainsaw like the husky 257 looks like it may work. I normally am bucking 12' to 24 inch hickory and oak. I don't think a 28' bar would do so well on my medium chainsaw. It takes every bit of the power of my chainsaw to run my 20 inch bar.
Hey John! Thats exactly it! I run this husky for a set size of logs to buck up! I am not cutting 28" oak with this lol I use it for all my pine slabs I burn in my outdoor wood boiler and use this for bucking as you saw so its very specific for my situation!
Well, that peewee stuff you're doing i do with my pruner saw (52cc w/12 inch bar). i see no reason to tie up a powerful high $ chainsaw with long bar and skip chain when i can do just about all i need with 20'' bar and full chisel. i am in SEast so lots of oak.
Theres a time and place for short bar indeed. If im cutting firewood poles in a pile or being held up by a excavator the shorter bar is key as its gonna cut faster.
Well said
Thanks for watching!
🤣🤣🤣 That is so funny Sir 👍 You forgot to mention it does takes longer to sharpen the chains but it does save you back and less prone to kick back's 👍 No, it does happen to all of us ( two safety glasses !!! ) Ho Men you will be for sure on potatoes peeling duty for a very long time if you do said that to your wife 🤣👍 Keep up the very high good spirits Sir Cheers !!!!
Hey Dave! Glad you got a good laugh! I was having a grand ol time out in the bush having fun! Thanks for tuning in!
@@HomesteadJay Yes, I can tell and that is very good for the spirits Cheers !!!
I like my 180 for those size trees. I getting old. Dam saws are getting heavier each year
Hey larry! I agree and im almost 30 years old hahaha! The husky is a boat anchor with the 28" on it lol
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I am 68, 2 bad shoulder and a back that is so-so
ey, as far as 50cc saws go, I got a older MS270 (snow flake/cold weather version) and a 550xp Mark II, the MS270 screams with a 20" 3/8 pitch round chain noooo problamo... Wether its falling a 20+ inch tree doesn't care... Its just happy to burn gas and hose me down with chips. As for the 550xp that one has a 24" SugiHara bar, runnin a 3/8" sprocket for the 3/8 pitch full chisel square ground chain. Let me tell ya... 50cc, don't have no issue with that sunk in a tree. However a 28" or larger I'd defiantly only do bucking with, without stepping up to the ol 60-70cc saws. But I'd definitively say a 50cc (at least the two I have) can easily handle up to a 24" for regular use( some felling, an a lot of bucking ) maybe a 2-4 hours of cutting a day. If its an 8 hr day I'd say, yep go with the big boy 70cc to sling that 28" + chip sprayer. But where I live about 90% of the trees on my land are 30" diameter or larger at the base. I don't feel like making 12 cuts with a 10" bar to make it happen if ya know what I mean. (cough... walmart pro saws.. cough)
Hey Gitty! Thanks for sharing your two cents on the subject! Around me I have a very young forest and a 20" bar is sufficient for all my felling needs on my CS-590 I love the long bar on the husky cause its my designated buckin saw I dont fell with that heavy lady haha thanks for chatting!
I don’t usually run a log bar for limbing . I like it for bucking though. It gets pretty thick where I’m limbing and I like having a lighter saw that I have complete control over, especially when there’s vines and briars. You’re the only other person I’ve seen that carries while cutting wood. I believe you should always have a gun of some sort with you when you’re in the woods. Personally I like a revolver. No worry about the possibility of a jam, it always goes bang, and if it doesn’t, just pull the trigger again. Easy to do with one hand if the other hand is immobilized. No slide to rack (try clearing a jam one handed). 2 speed loaders (1 in each front pocket, in case something happens to one hand, I always can get ammo out of my pocket with a good hand) and a crimson trace on the grip. It’s surprising what comes to the sound of a saw. Bears are curious, and rattlesnakes/copperheads like brush piles, but my biggest problem has been a sick fox or raccoon. Before they start foaming at the mouth, they get super aggressive and will just run up attacking and biting at you. Another reason I wear chaps. Nice video, sorry for the long comment.
Hey Denny! Dont be sorry for the long comment Ill chat all day long! I always bring my gun because I dont know who/what is out here! We live near the NH white mountains and safe to say theres plenty of curious wildlife! Ive been startled by a coyote and saw a bear cub just this year so yeah! Once i expand my gun collection I think id invest in a revolver for said reasons you just said. Id rather have it than not!
Always run the shortest bar you can get by with. Why? Here is why, long bar and chain costs more every time you buy one, long bar reduces power, long bar is harder to control safety wise, takes longer to sharpen chain.
I respectfully disagree! I run a skip chain which has prob less teeth then my full house 20” on my echo! It also depends what you are cutting/bucking so the long bar is perfect for my situation!
As I said use the shortest bar you can get by with. In your case it is 20, don’t run a 24 if a 20 will do the job. Skip tooth chain is great.
I agree with homestead. Use the longest! Not shortest bar. Kick back with short bar far worse . Physics.
I like your new video today you did a really good jop today me and my wife and son are doing good we miss mom a lot buddy
Hey Travis! Glad you guys are doing well! One day at a time!
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Thanks Hank!
It might be nice to us a longer blade, but there are some real downsides. The longer the chain, the more friction and powerloss. Also you'l need more oil . But that is not that bad. The biggest problem is safety. Longer blades tend to give accidental kickbacks when touching somthing at the far end, but even worse when lowering the saw gives you much more risk of cuttinge your own feet or leg when getting tired of the bigger weight and the londer blade. SO i do not realy agree with you that longer is bigger. If so, they would just make one long size ;-)
The longer bar on the proper saw is actually safer since your not bending as much and the tip is farther away from your head if there was a kick back
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Thanks buddy!
The longer the bar is the longer its going to take to cut.
Slower chain speed yes but not by much.
I believe I'd rather have that there chainsaw than that...Glock?, if a nasty mama bear decided to give it a run. Jus sayin.
Sig P320. Ive seen dozens coyotes/fisher cats over the years. One bear haha
That chainsaw you got looks small to us. That bar might help you out for them small jobs you do. It's not good to be running a chainsaw in the woods with a gun on your side you might fall down. You might get hurt.
Hey Mark! I always have it on me, not chambered for that reason though. I dont carry it one in the chamber for the reason if it gets hung up in the brush and gets pulled out of the holster or if I fell! There are a lot of coyotes/bears up here (NH white mountains) so yeah I always take it! Plus I never know if there is anyone out here who knows! Rather have it than not!
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Look at Buckin Billy Rays channel, he has been saying "Stand up and buck" for years. Even has a t shirt now with it. I use a 28 too on my Echo 620, works great for bucking logs. buckinbillyray.com/product/stand-up-buck-t-shirt/
Hey Redrider yes ive watched buckin before! I just wanted to show on my channel because the 257 with the 28 is soooo nice! I can work the woods all day! Im glad that 28 works good on your 620! Thanks for checking it out!