@@AskCurtis FAR LESS [ HARMFUL ] IF AT ALL, THAN M0ST PHARMACEUTICALS INCLUDING ASPIRIN - AND WHAT IS 'NEEDED' DEPENDS 0N MANY C0NSIDERATI0NS : AGE, DIET, LIFESTYLE ETC ; I THINK Y0UR BELIEF IS AN 0PINI0N BASED 0N A NARR0W VIEW - BUT IMPR0PERLY USED, ANYTHING CAN BE HARMFUL...
Question for you. What dose of ASA was your example on? I am taking 81mg ASA daily because I had a 4v CABG in 2017 and have read about the possibilities of nattokinase helping with plaque. ASA isn’t a blood thinner, it is a blood ‘slipperier’ basically since it coats the RBC’s. Would low dose ASA really be that much of a risk on 2k nattokinase?
Talk to your doctor about Nattokinase?! Yeah, as if he or she will even give you the time or, better, if they’ll even know anything about it??! Talking to a medical doctor about nutritional supplements is like trying to get stock market advice from your car mechanic. 🙄
So true! I moved on from traditional an Allopathic doctor and now see a Naturopath who knows about supplements, alternative methods, as well as traditional medicines and she will always try the more holistic route depending upon what I have going on. Most' of the time, it works. I spend one hour with her at each visit which would never happen with a tradition MD. I will never go back unless I have to go to a specialist for a specific issue. I do have a Vascular doc who I have to see who is as arrogant as they come.
My experience as well, which is problematic - for instance read my comment about stopping taking supplements. What if you for some reason one day can't get hold of the supplement, or forget to buy in time - and your blood pressure suddenly rises? As I understand, since it works on its own, nattokinase hasn't a hight receptor engagement, which might be a good thing, since it is harder for the body to adapt and get dependent.
@rockaboatus588 "Talk to your doctor" is just to avoid being sued for giving medical advice if something happens. No one asks a doctor about these things. Or if they do, the doctor would tell them only to take prescribed drugs. A doctor has to follow their practice to avoid legislation. (At least in the US.) I'm Swedish, and we never sue anyone! We actually take responsibility for our own mistakes! But even here, doctors follow their medical doctrine. And nutrition isn't a big part of that!
@@larsnystrom6698 Yes, you're right. I was simply pointing out the absurdity of asking a physician for nutritional advice. Most people have a hard time accepting that these doctors don't know everything, and especially so when it comes to nutrition and supplements. I once told my own doctor that I was taking vitamin D3, and she didn't know what in the world I was talking about?!
I am Japanese, and we eat natto every morning. Japanese doctors do warn not to eat natto if you are on blood thinning medication because natto can make it work too well and cause bleeding issues, but if you are not on any blood thinning medication, eating natto or taking natto supplement shouldn't be a problem. We, the Japanese, have been eating natto for centuries.
My mother has A fib, for the last 5 years. Had a stroke 5 years ago. Was on warfarin for the last 5 years maintaining 1.8 INR, checking with Roche home test machine. Has zero cholesterol, excellent diet, zero sugar, alcohol, eats 2 organic eggs per day etc. Afib was caused by enlarged left atrium due to Mitral regurgitation due to life long heart murmur from rheumatic fever when 14. Had 2 new valves and Left Atrial Appendage ligation in December. Once valvular endothielised we went to using natural Anti coagulants. Height is 5'8" weight 72 kgs. Dosages. 2000 FU Natto-kinase every 36 hrs, add a vitiman E complex, a Garlic allium complex and a salmon oil complex. Highest quality only, not heat treated. You can add EFAs and Magnesium if you like. Also CoQ10. We have tested her clotting time every 48 hours for the last 2 years, with both the Roche machine and the glass slide method. You need to look up the glass slide method on youtube. Basically drop 2 to 3 drops of blood on the bottom of a glass or onto a plate at room temp. Once the blood hits the surface, start a stop watch. Draw a needle through the blood and upwards observing every 30 seconds. Best to start after the 2 min mark. The time it takes for a sipderweb of blood, a fibre, to form between the drop of blood and the needle indicates your INR or clotting time. A normal INR can measure 2 to 5 mins. On Warfarin at INR 1.8 mums time was 5 to 7 mins, sometimes as low as 3 to 4 mins depending on dietary greens. (K1 intake.) On the above Natto-kinase dose mum measures 5 to 8 mins. Meanwhile, on the Roche INR machine her INR measures 1.2. However, this is not her clotting time, but the calculated clotting time based on levels of factors VII and VIII. Natto-kinase reduces these only around 30 % at this dosage level, but it increases anti-fibrinogen significantly. This is working so far. The thing is, everyone is different, because of diet, history, metabolism, genetics, environment, activity. If you're got calcification of your arteries, that's a problem. You need a total blood calcium test, and maybe K2. Taking responsibility for you health needs to start 25 years ago. I'm sorry, but that's the reality. And reading. The volume of reading to get us to here is massive. And testing, you have to test everything every 24 hrs to know what your doing, and still we are afraid to get it wrong. Hopefully, if you've looked after yourself, got off all added sugar, eat whole food and organic diet, zero coffee or alcohol, you can make some use of this.
Damn right!! I was on rosuvastatin for 1 month and lost 2 big patches of hair, muscle pain, drug induced neuropathy!!! 🤯 small percentage of people get the alopecia , unfortunately that was me 😡
I had a mild heart attack 6 months ago, the doctor automatically prescribed Statins. I had one 40% blockage in an artery. I did some research and found a lot of information on the long term risk of Statins and instead changed my diet completely, after my 6 day stay in the hospital, Other than the blockage no other problems were found. I started taking a modest dose of NattoKinase and had test again at a clinic near my home at the 60 day mark of my new diet and NattoKinase, my artery clog was 18%. I have returned to the gym for 3 day a week resistance training, I gained 6kg of muscle, and my 47 yr old athlete GF said even my erections were stronger. I am75 and feel great. For my birthday she promised to have her close friend to celebrate the birth day and regaining health with a mini-orgy but it turned out she was joking. Statins are more risky than they are worth and once starting you have to continue the rest of your life because they suppress your natural mechanisms for breaking up clogs. I take 6 common vitamins and minerals plus L-Citrulline, and essentially the Mediterranean diet and zero processed foods
The biggest problem about talking about these supplements with your doctor is that most doctors don't have a clue concerning what you are talking about. Speaking from experience.
You are right. I would never even consider talking to a doctor about any natural supplement. Doctors don't have training in that area and are more likely to push s drug than go the natural route.
One year plus on Natto, 10 years on serrapeptase with no noticeable side effects. I would like to have a thorough look at blood chemistry, arterial plaque, etc. Visible scars are reduced, Peyronie's scarring and curve is much reduced, BP and weight much lower, joint pain reduced to mostly none, trigger finger gone, sinus and lung congestion cleared. Very active dreams, clearer thinking, speech hesitation gone. No sugar, very low carb diet for 2 years. Very impressive anecdotal changes for the better.
Serrapeptase. I added the nattokanise years after using serrapeptase regularly. The curvature is not eliminated but is greatly reduced, along with a reduction in other Peyronie's symptoms.@@Cosmo-Kramer
@@danpatterson6937 That's great to hear. I wonder, have you ever tried Lumbrokinase? It's even more potent than Serrapeptase (and Nattokinase). It's expensive, particularly if you get the Boluke kind from Canada, which is the purest form of Lumbrokinase (which is from the silkworm).
Most doctors would not even know about Nattokinase and if you told them they would most likely say don’t take it and stick with the drug blood thinner only.
Exactly! No money in natural methods and no kick backs $ from big pharma! My husband is trying to 'school' his doc on a few things regarding issue when he see him.
I asked my PCP if he was familiar with proteolytic enzymes. He said ,"Yes." I asked his opinion. His face reddened, and for a solid minute he said nothing. When he finally spoke he changed the conversation, never answered my question. If I specifily asked about Nattokinase he probably would have passed out!
@@davidotness6199 Very true. More insidiously, rats are known to be very suspicious of anything new, so W causes internal bleeding slowly over time instead of suddenly.
My wife is from Japan, so much of what we eat is Japanese Cuisine, including natto, of course. I have been eating natto for many years (30 plus) with no side effects. Our youngest daughter ate natto with soupy rice instead of baby food when she was an infant ... with no side effects. She loves natto to this day. It's a great food. I believe that claim that it can thin the blood ... so does garlic and other foods. I just find the foods that I enjoy eating and that agree with my gut and just make that a routine.
How do you get over the smell of natto so you can eat it? One of my sons moved to Japan in 2009 and after about 5 years there married a Japanese girl , loves it there and most likely never come back to the US except for visits. He still can’t stand the smell of natto so can’t eat it.
@@rambleon2011 gee! It’s not that bad people claimed to be. I’m eating natto right now. And I’m a fuzzy eater. Just think about the good stuff it offers. ❤️❤️❤️
I think it needs to be pointed out that theres a difference between nattokinase and natto. The nattokinase you buy in pill form is an extract. Natto is fermented soybeans that contains nattokinase along with other nutrients. Although natto contains less nattokinase than the pill, there may be an advantage to eating natto because you get the full synergistic effect. Just my 2 cents. Im not a doctor, expert or professional in the field of health.
Don't sweat it brother. Your comment proves you are more educated than MDs and it proves you don't have to have overrated credentials to be educated and knowledgeable
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Japanese are freeze drying roasted Natto that you can buy in a bag to sprinkle over food. Many Japanese don’t like fresh either. My mother loved it but I can’t deal with the texture.
From what I've read nattokinase is made from natto so you would think it would be similar in strength. However suppose it depends how much natto one eats.
My present age is 77. From January 2023 I took 4,000 FUs of nattokinase a day for 10 months. Then I increased my dosage to 10,000 - 12,000 FUs a day for 5.5 months until May first, 2024. Now for the past 4 months I have been taking 20,000 FUs per day. I take zero prescription drugs. I'm trying to reduce a CAC score of 305 that I had in January 2023. I plan on getting another CAC score in January 2025 (in 4 months).
I personally, take nattokinase and lumbrokinase. And never feel any side effects. Have improved my health. I am not taking any prescriptions, am 64 with 4 different stent interventions. 7 months ago I change my Diet, T Carnivore and Animal Fat, since that time, My Skin Psoriasis disappeared, And not taking any prescription, and I feel, like long time ago. My blood pressure is normal, No Angina. My Diet was The “Healthy “ and never saw progress. Is Incredible but My Wife and my Family are my Witnesses. Thanks.
Fyi, just went to dentist who got covid March 2020. He went partially blind as an effect of covid. Rare! What did they give him at a Nashville Tennessee hospital? Nattokinase for 2 months. He's totally fine and practicing today
I brought this up with my wife's nerosurgeon after she developed a blood clot after a benign spinal tumor was removed and he had never even heard of it.
I have chronic fatigue syndrom and, in my case, nattokinase is the difference between being too weak to care for myself (micro blood clots) and being fully healthy. So, this was very helpful, thank you.
Nattokinase and serrapeptase can defintely cause constipation when first taken, which is not often mentioned. It's advised to manage fluid intake accordingly when supplementing with both.
is that when you are taking the 2 of them? not had constipation with just Nattokinase i am going to get some D3 also seeing that the Nattokinase gets your body to produce K2 vitamins and they need the D3 work with the K2.
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As a IBS patient, I got severe bloating and hard stool on my first day with Nattokinase. So I stopped after 3 days trial. Phama Co. should warn about this.
Here's an idea, take nattokinase and don't take blood thinners. My husband's friend died from blood thinners. My idiot doctor wouldn't know what nattokinase is never mind have an opinion worth while on it.
I asked a team of doctors in the haematology dept of one of the UK’s most respected children’s hospitals and not a single one had heard of Nattokinase. This was about 8 years ago and unless big pharma have pushed it since I can’t see that knowledge changing.
I wish that everyone could be on the same page so many doctors don’t even have background information on supplementation. This was very informative. You really have to dive deep and do your research.
None of this information is new to me. I use to live in Japan back in the day. Slowly and gradually I learned to like Natto. Natto is completely different than regular soybeans. It fermented. A totally different process is done to the bean. To this day I still eat Natto. Actually, I love the stuff. I'm not a fan of regular soybean or soy products. I stay away from them. Just Natto I eat. It's a superfood. Very healthy for you. It has the most Vitamin K2 than any other food. K2 can help clear out the arteries. Very heart-healthy, and yes it has Nattokinase which has many health benefits as well such as lowering blood pressure. If you're on BP meds. be careful eating Natto. Monitor your BP. It can drop. It's also loaded with probiotics. Great for your digestion.
@@lindapestridge3073 I don't eat Natto every day. So I do take a Nattokinase supplement. I just don't take a lot of it. Too much of it can thin out your blood too much. You don't want that. Especially if you're prone to bleeding disorders or on blood thinning medications. Personally, I think eating Natto is better than taking the supplement. Getting nutrients from whole foods is always better, but supplementing is still worth it.
I've been taking Nattokinase supplements at 8000 FU daily. I have had no adverse side effects. I have noticed that my blood pressure has been much better controlled. I used to wake sometimes with headaches. I know most people whose blood pressure elevates have no symptoms, but for some reason I have always been sensitive to this and get a recognizable headache. These have went away. Of course, I continue with my hypertensive medications. But I find nattokinase to be a real plus.
My experience. I'm 74 and prior to my ablation in Dec of 22, I was 100% AFIB for a year and a half. My AFIB started in Nov 2015 and progressed in spite of medications. While on Eliquis my doctor had me on a baby aspirin as well. Over time I developed severe nose bleeding requiring visits to the ER. The doctor took me off the aspirin and the nose bleeding decreased but didn't stop completely. I started taking 2000 FUs of Nattokinase a day about a year before my ablation was done because of the recent epidemic that appeared in 2020. After my ablation in Dec 2022, my AFIB went to zero and has remained so since. I was taken off Eliquis, but I still take 2000 FUs of Nattokinase with no bleeding problems to date. I also have a pacemaker due to sick sinus syndrome causing bradycardia.
Hi, Thank you for posting this. I was looking for someone who says the have an ICD and taking natto. My mom also has one and I want to try natto with her. She’s 69 also taking Eliquis and an aspirin along with other meds for her lungs its all just too much and none of it is making her better. So Thank you again.
God bless - I have bradycardia and have a pacemaker. I had afib and was cardio- verted a year and half ago and have been afib free since. I always took Natto supplements - but my Doctors have no idea what that is and put me on Xarelto - I want to get off it - and continue natural blood thinners. I am 65 - how are you doing recently?
@2:23 -- _"A 92-year-old female; she was not on blood thinners..."_ Since you didn't mention the dosage she was taking, I went and read the case study (thank you for providing links to your references!), and noticed that the authors didn't give a dosage either. But as I read further I discovered why: _"Our patient had been ingesting nattokinase daily. She is unsure how many she takes, _*_“sometimes a handful”._*_ She lived alone and as such there was no one to confirm how many nattokinase supplements she had been taking daily."_ Yikes! Alright, kids, important safety tip: don't take pills by the handful, mmkay? It should also be noted that the patient _"presented to the hospital _*_for a mechanical fall."_* So it's quite plausible to suppose that her internal hemorrhage was precipitated by this event, and not just a "spontaneous" bleed.
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@@christopherd7922I have been taking the Dr Andrew brand at 4000 FU. I am just not sure how much to take though: is it 2x 4000 FU per day or I had heard you need 11,000 to have the benefits of clinical studies but I’m a bit scared to take 11,000. Do you know?
@@lapislazuli7876My Neprinol from Arthur Andrew arrives soon which contain 15 000 fu’s per capsule of a mix of nattokinase, serarapeptase and lipase. And I’ll be taking them as soon as they arrive.
I make my own natto using subtilis bacteria and it doesn’t need to be made with soybeans necessarily. I prefer the flavour of natto made with split chickpeas, it’s still sticky with the long threads but tastes better in my opinion. There’s a good amount of nattokinase in it as well according to some studies I found using Google scholar.
I eat tofu every day, and started taking 4,000 FUs of Nattokinase a couple months ago, and recently upped my game by making Natto. Results, all the joint pain in my knees and hips went away. I'm 69. My Dr had me on ibuprofen daily that was destroying my gut lining. He had no problem with that, and no I didn't ask him if Natto was safe.
You should talk about Lumbrokinase, Serrapeptase , Nattokinase and Red Rice Yeast with K2 Mk7 for decreasing calcification and their interaction . Thank you 🙏
@@AskCurtis my curiosity is about the affect of serrapeptase on old surgical sites, especially larger major surgical scars. Could the scarred area weaken and possibly reopen.
My mother has A fib, for the last 5 years. Had a stroke 5 years ago. Was on warfarin for the last 5 years maintaining 1.8 INR, checking with Roche home test machine. Has zero cholesterol, excellent diet, zero sugar, alcohol, eats 2 organic eggs per day etc. Afib was caused by enlarged left atrium due to Mitral regurgitation due to life long heart murmur from rheumatic fever when 14. Had 2 new valves and Left Atrial Appendage ligation in December. Once valvular endothielised we went to using natural Anti coagulants. Height is 5'8" weight 72 kgs. Dosages. 2000 FU Natto-kinase every 36 hrs, add a vitiman E complex, a Garlic allium complex and a salmon oil complex. Highest quality only, not heat treated. You can add EFAs and Magnesium if you like. Also CoQ10. We have tested her clotting time every 48 hours for the last 2 years, with both the Roche machine and the glass slide method. You need to look up the glass slide method on youtube. Basically drop 2 to 3 drops of blood on the bottom of a glass or onto a plate at room temp. Once the blood hits the surface, start a stop watch. Draw a needle through the blood and upwards observing every 30 seconds. Best to start after the 2 min mark. The time it takes for a sipderweb of blood, a fibre, to form between the drop of blood and the needle indicates your INR or clotting time. A normal INR can measure 2 to 5 mins. On Warfarin at INR 1.8 mums time was 5 to 7 mins, sometimes as low as 3 to 4 mins depending on dietary greens. (K1 intake.) On the above Natto-kinase dose mum measures 5 to 8 mins. Meanwhile, on the Roche INR machine her INR measures 1.2. However, this is not her clotting time, but the calculated clotting time based on levels of factors VII and VIII. Natto-kinase reduces these only around 30 % at this dosage level, but it increases anti-fibrinogen significantly. This is working so far. The thing is, everyone is different, because of diet, history, metabolism, genetics, environment, activity. If you're got calcification of your arteries, that's a problem. You need a total blood calcium test, and maybe K2. Taking responsibility for you health needs to start 25 years ago. I'm sorry, but that's the reality. And reading. The volume of reading to get us to here is massive. And testing, you have to test everything every 24 hrs to know what your doing, and still we are afraid to get it wrong. Hopefully, if you've looked after yourself, got off all added sugar, eat whole food and organic diet, zero coffee or alcohol, you can make some use of this.
@@AskCurtis I came across your interesting channel I have been diagnosed with chronic bacterial chronic prostatis. It has been 8 years. Pain only goes after Ejerculating. Urologist done seman sample & came back with infection, Ecoli & Staphylococcus! Have only been given Antibiotics twice ONLY for 5 weeks for a chronic infection of 8yrars & they didn't work. (But pain went away for many months after & then came back) just wanted to know if a Regular prostate Massage aswel as supplements like saw palmeto along with prostate Massage & Long course of Antibiotics & serrapeptase will or could help? Any opinions? Thank you for your Time.
One aspect of nattokinase as well as other supplements that works and are not part of common nutrition is what happens when you stop. In another video someone commented that her blood pressure went up since stop taking nattokinase. There might be a similar reaction to when not taking regular medicine, with racing heart and strongly elevated pressure. This is not well studied as I understand and could potentially be very dangerous.
I had a triple bypass surgery last year, based on a cardiac cath (all were blocked 90-95%). Is it possible to have cleared them to below 50% blockage with Nattokinase for a year or longer? I'm doing fine now and want to start Nattokinase for heart health and blood pressure. Good vid, Dr. Curtis.
problem with cardio vascular system is weak arteries. Why the arteries thicken and get plug is just lack of right nutrition to keep them well maintain and also taking in foods which promote inflammation and damage to the cells and walls in the vascular system. What builds strong arteries? That is what you need to concentrate because even if you clean them up lets say with Nattokinose or some other mechanical ways, if you do not change the nutrient in take to support building healthy cell walls in your arteries you will eventually get the same issue again. Eliminate the cause of the issue and you wont have to deal with symptoms, because the system will work well.
I've taken nattokinase 4000 FU for the past four years, on an empty stomach before settling down for the night. Refused pharmaceutical intervention. In my late seventies a firm believer in nattokinase. No side effects.
Thanks, @@vapeking466. I sent the study discussed in this video to my interventional cardiologist (I have three stents in play at this point) and he's cool with it.
Yep, much better to keep all your plaque & reinforce it everyday to keep it secure...That is the regular solution, each day the circle gets smaller as the pipe fills...
Good point about clots breaking loose with this stuff. I know everyone wants these things to work but when you have clots and then see Dr they can go in and retrieve them or put you on a heparin drip bed rest until you get through it or scoop it out... If you think your blood too much and have an accident you'll probably be in worse trouble. It made me bleed badly!
Don’t waste your time consulting your physician about nattokinase use. They are oblivious for the most part. And ignorant in general of natural health remedies.
Very timely information. I’m just finishing titrating down off 90 mg Ticagular 1 year after a heart attack and a stent put in 1 artery. I’m doing a week wash out and then plan to start natto. I was just wondering about the 81 mg aspirin I’m on so I’ll stop that too. I’m 71 yr old female and did not know about the bleeding issues that can occur either. Thank you.
@@darioussmith3450 actually I did talk to my cardiologist just last week. I was getting results from a recent stress test and I did mention my actions around getting off of the Rx meds I’ve been on for a year. He was okay with the reductions of beta blockers and the Ticagular but did recommend staying on the aspirin and the candesarten blood pressure medication. I’m not anti Rx drugs but I am also not a sheep taking stacks of that stuff just because they told me to. Thankfully, my doctors are accepting of my decisions. I was on a keto diet regimen and supplements and my blood tests are showing very good results. I do check things out as we all should theses days.
@gailfagan7579 as a heart and now post transplant patient, I am with you on supplements vs Rx. That said, as an engineer we know it is key how to measure our results to goal. In our case with blood "thinness" or clotting factor this measured by INR test and deternines time for blood to clot. You could ask your Cardio for a target INR value and use that goal for any thinning method. RX or Natural. It is the test for determining blood thinner dising for Warfarin and others.
@@cpntexas_x thanks for the info, the name of the test. I just had blood drawn for my regular doctor and will get results in a couple of weeks as he’s on vacation. I’m doing quite well since I stopped the Ticagular and started the natto and reduced the beta blockers to a very small dose at night. I can walk up hills now without having to stop so that’s a big improvement. I hope the tests confirm that is what is happening.
Per your comment soliciting comment... 79 Y.O. male, no pathologies. Statin & Losartin, healthy as a horse. I started on Nattokinast 8000 FU almost a year ago. Have had two GP medical exams and one exam by the cardio dude since starting, with no findings and no comments.
I have been supplementing with nattokinase for over a year, but a while after I started taking 2000 FU daily, I noticed even small scratches/cuts seemed to bleed much more than they had before, which concerned me a bit, so I cut back to taking it only 3 days per week.
Great information. Not a lot of unnecessary introductory information which you could acquire if you weren't familiar with nattokinase. For those familiar with it the information was right on!!
I took one pill of Nattokinase and had the most dreadful brain fog, dizziness and confusion I’ve ever had. I take other prescription meds and think I had an interaction.
Yeah. You probably should avoid it then. It really should have no noticeable effect. I had a Dr. Jekyl/Mr. Hyde issue when I tried the prescription thinners. I forget which one. But you only have to cuss your boss out and throw a hissy fit in the office once to realize that something is wrong... ! :)
Everybody's different genetic chemistry & diet means it won't be the same for all. I've had zero issues with NK or Lumbrokinase. My cholesterol panel numbers have improved. Supplement caution is warranted but pharma owned medical wants you to fear supplements.
@@claudedaniels5415I agree. Everyone says something different and it’s hard to know who to believe. Some people in here say they have no side effects and others say they had strokes because of it. Who do you believe?
My blood pressure normally runs low. Started taking Nattokinase and my blood pressure became even lower than normal and I found myself feeling extremely fatigued. Lowered the dose to 1/2 of what I was taking and felt a lot better.
I've taken it for approximately a year without any problems. It makes sense that those who react to soy should think twice about ingesting nattokinase and this was likely beneficial to some in pointing it out in this video.
At 73, I've been taking 10,000 fu recently. I may cut it down to 8,000 as a precaution after seeing this. Agreed on doctors knowing nothing of nutrition. They want to write prescriptions.
I don't know if its because I'm taking Methatrexate, but within two weeks of taking Nattokinase my skin started weeping and bleeding where I wore jewelry. The back of my neck from my gold necklace, My fingers from two gold rings and my ears from my earnings. I also noticed my skin was becoming really delicate. When I scratched my skin even gently, it opened up like I'd been at myself with a knife. I stopped taking it and the problem stopped.
Yikes! I'm one pill in but after reading all of these side effects, I'm stopping it and returning the bottle. I take a statin, a beta-blocker and just stopped my Plavix blood thinner and generally have no side effects. I'm 51 so, having tinnitus, some ED and some slight muscle pain in the last few years could be any number of things. I'll stick with my meds and go try some natto instead.
@@JRESHOW hey there... definitely still helps, although a rash has appeared on my ankle which may be related.. I deffo feel more oxygenated on it. I'm just trying to find a dose that's right for me still. But I think it's worthwhile starting at a low dose and seeing how it goes. I don't think I'd want to stop taking it now but I think my system is very sensitive and everyday may be too much....I think blood is getting back to parts of my body that were clogged. My thinking , my feet and hands are warm . But I'm worried that rash is blood that's come through. Going to see the doctors about it but just feeling less of that vascular sluggishness is great
@@JRESHOW the rash is tiny btw but persistent. I'm overweight so it may be that weight plus thinned blood has caused it. Or might be unrelated. But I feel a twenty percent noticeable improvement in all symptoms minutes after taking it
Thanks so much for the reply!! I started taking 1/4 dose of a 2000iu “doctors” best I got off Amazon the other day. I’ve took probably 3 pills total, just to make sure I wouldn’t have any crazy reaction. One of my most symptoms is having cold hands and cold feet. I never had cold feet or hands before this and it is just so hard to deal with. I’m going to continue to up the dose to 1/2 tomorrow and probably a full pill the following day. Hoping this helps. I also bought some nato powder off Amazon, sourced in Japan, and may substitute the pill and just use that instead. I hope your rash subsides and you keep moving in a healing direction :))
After taking nattokinase for two weeks at 2000fu, I feel movements in the veins or arteries of my head and soreness there so I stopped for a while and will stop taking for at least a month to monitor. I also had sudden blurry vision like a curtain dropped over on one eye though this cleared up after one day. Just relate this for mutual sharing
I had to cease with taking BP medications due to serious side effects. I have taken Nattokinase for 6 months now and most of the side effects have abated. But there is a warning that if you need dental treatment or surgery to stop taking it for a week or two beforehand. If you have an accident you would bleed, but similar with aspirin and other blood thinners.
I took Nattokinase for about a month and the side effects were significant. Muscular/joint pain. I also feel very tired as if I have covid all over again. I stopped taking it but I figure something must be happening for me to feel this way. Maybe it's the side effect of the spike protein being broken apart?
Interesting talk, but regarding the 92 year old woman, (considering the average woman's lifespan) I would think there could be many reasons for her death, including old age.
After a heart attack, for which I refused a CT scan and thus further treatment, I was taking 2000fu of Nattokinase, along with cayenne and garlic and turmeric and garlic. Well I got a small cut on my finger and it bled like a fountain for about four times as long as what would be normal. That was my wake up call to back off from too many blood thinners. I cut the Nattokinase in half.
Make my own natto, my blood pressure has normalized where I am off Coreg and statins. I don't take nattokinase, but the natto I make is the chopped up version from what I have understood is higher in k2 and spermidine. 70 years old and I have my natto for dinner. I am off all medications except for the vitamins I take. Does it help? I can only answer for myself. (Natto is very easy to make)
I had a bad allergic reaction to Serrapeptase and switched to Nattokinase and can tolerate it without any problems. The serrapeptase was giving me at first loose stools then after a few days some diarrhea, and I kept taking it on an empty stomach with plenty of water until finally I experienced an anaphylactic shock with a severe drop in blood pressure, ...I collapsed in the bathroom with diarrhea and in anaphylactic shock. Many believe these enzymes do not make it past the stomach. My case suggests serrapeptase does. I was not taking enteric pills just swallowing with plenty of water on an empty stomach. My side effects mainly diarrhea would start a few hours after swallowing so I conclude the enzyme had to get past the stomach and into the lower digestive track where it would cause me an allergic reaction- diarrhea. Nattokinase I can tolerate, even large doses over many months. I hope it is also able to get past the stomach like serrapeptase could and I hope it is doing some good for me. I do not feel any different though.
@@delaville680 I was taking Doctor's Best Serraptase 40,000 unit pills. Thanks for the suggestion. I may try Arthur Andrew Medical's Nattokinase in the future although I am a bit skeptical of a supplement company from a place like Scottsdale Arizona. Putting "Medical" in the company name also seems like an easy way to extract a higher price. Very few good things ever came from Arizona! Is their product something pharmaceutical grade? Does "pharmaceutical grade" even exist in the realm of health supplements.
@@56dh There are many supplements that are garbage. I use Arthur Andrew medicals products. They are the best. I am very sensitive to many things too, not these.
Hmm, I've no issues whatsoever. Is your gut health good? It may not be allergic reaction, it might be interaction due to leaky gut which anyone eating processed diet is gonna have
Becareful Nattokinas can dissolve scar tissue, scar tissue or muscle tissues joining up too bone or tendons Nattokinas could possibly dissolve these and only in a few days less than 10 days. I developed a inaugural hernia after taking Nattokinas in less than two weeks. This hernia is the tubes that let the testicles slide down to be exposed outside of the body for cooling the testicles. These tubes heal up so that the intestines don't go down the tube into the scrotum. But after consuming Nattokinas for one and half weeks I started developing pain in my intestines, I carried taken Nattokinas for the next few days then I had to stop the pain would not go away. A couple of weeks later I developed the hernia.
Natto tastes revolting. The Japanese are brave. Hard to overdose therefore. Easy to see why the kinase pill version is preferred. Blood thinners of all types can and do go wrong. Monitoring is usually needed - blood tests. So Nattokinase related bleeding would be like another cause or activator of a known thing. NSAIDS account for many admissions to hospital with bleeding - their Asprin like effects.
I'm taking Nattokinase and it does make the poop have a Gummy like consistency to it, I suggest to drink a coconut oil with it, so the body can have a balance
I have a ringing in my ears from Natto I think - at least the ringing started around the same time I started taking Natto. But I’m not stopping taking it because I believe the benefit of Natto outweighs the ringing. Natto can break down the misfolded proteins in your brain that cause dementia.
So many great safe healthy benefits from this natural bean 🫘 plant 🌱 I do not understand why doctors would not want anyone taking interest’s into the supplement. I’ve seen the people in china all over eating this natural bean healthy diet no side effects whatsoever smh. 😮
Medications for high blood pressure (Antihypertensive drugs) interacts with NATTOKINASE. Nattokinase might lower blood pressure. Taking nattokinase along with medications that lower blood pressure might cause blood pressure to go too low. Monitor your blood pressure closely.
You should not use nattokinase with Lisinopril from my research. As for K2 yes it can be taken with nattokinase and some nattokinase actually has K2 but some has had the K2 removed for those who can't do the K2.
Natto is quite good at solving blood clots. This however can lead to something called ischemic reperfusion. There are some newer papers discussion the role of ischemia and "microscopic" ischemic reperfusion in Long Covid.
I felt a clot in my right leg back in May 2023. Took nattokinase 3 times a day (total of 300 mg) for 2 and a half days and the clot was gone. Since then I have changed my dosage to twice a day with no issues.
I'm on apixaban from an unprovoked Upper extremity DVT of the axillary and brachial vein. Found out now I'm Heterozygous for bkth Factor V Leiden and Marburg I (a factor VII pro-coagulation disorder) I now have had 3 gout attacks, never had gout previously. Looking to lower my apixaban dosage and replace with Nattokinase.
I currently take eliquis and from the warnings will not then start Natto. However I did read that eliquis dose should be cut in half in this case. I would start with your Dr who will probably not know the answer then ask your Pharmacist who will have a better answer. I take 5mg twice daily and would like to get off of it. Also natto can lower your blood pressure so if you are on meds for that be careful. .+062
I am the blood clot king. Docs said I should be dead . I took eliquis for a year after slowly cutting down then stopped. Started serrapeptase for 3 months and now natto . I do notice if too heavy (for me) on any of these thinners I get light headed and not feel energetic. Also take vitamin E. My clots were in 2018 before covid ( probably from drinking too much coffee not enough water . So keep hydrated .
I take Nattokinase for a few years now cause i have kidney disease and when you have kidney disease your more prone to clots and stroke, only thing i notice is my right temple gets achy when i double dose to about 8000 FU , but a single 4000 FU has not been any issue or side effect of any kind that i can notice . BTW it takes a few days for me to take 8000 FU until i start getting headache . I'm thinking that the enzyme might stimulate detox of toxic bile and when too much toxic bile comes out at once you get headaches and pains of all sorts.
I make tand eat my own natto and eat 50g everyday. I'm 77, slightly overweight (10-15 lbs) according to charts and tend to always think of controlling my weight all the time. I've found that my digestion is quicker and easier for eating the natto. My blood pressure seems to be self-correcting as well. I think consistency is the key. Eating good quality non GMO soybeans and using wild mint stems for the fermentation process gives great satisfaction. I'm amazed at the well-being I am experiencing in the past year since beginning this regime.
As a survivor of prostate cancer and having been put on testosterone therapy where my levels were 670 (ish) and having started dosing myself with 10,000 FU's per day of nato kinase for about 2 weeks before my most recent testosterone test i just had my regular tri-montly testosterone test and it had plummeted to 147. I haven't been able to find any studies on this so I'm guessing for the time being I'll do my own case study and see what happens. It did improve my cholesterol ( a high - back in 2020 to now 169 and the one just before that was 183. My LDL went from a former low of about 123 down to 107 and that is after about 2 weeks of Natto. Guy Palmer
From my investigation, vs just nattokinase, fair amount of k2mk7&4. Natto by itself only has 100mg, 2k FU/4oz. Myself, am about to start supplementing with bulk powder, already have capsules. Cost @80-90% less than the pills.
Been having vein throbbing, needle-like pin pain everyday. I'm already taking 5000 IU Vit. D3, K2 m7 180mcg & 350mg og magnesium, but it didn't help with the pain. I learned about Vit. B3-Niacin, I took 500mg in 2 days, I felt relief. The flush was just fine. I then reduced it to just 250mg the following days.
I just started taking it occasionally in the morning a couple of weeks ago. I mean I might as well, there are many studies on it showing it is a good supplement. I only take one, occasionally two with my vitamin d
I like to use simple logic. For example: let's replace nattokinase with warfarin... would we have 2 adverse cases? I'd take tons of them in this case. Thank you
I have tried to take both Nattokinase and Serrapeptase.... They both made me VIOLENTLY ill... I would throw up for hours after taking it. I tried to start with a small dose but would still get sick. Then, I tried to take it with AND without food to no avail.... This saddens me because I have always heard of the benefits but sadly, I unable to take advantage of it... 😢
@@AskCurtis Nobody bothered to check to see if sheeeeee took these products separately or together - her language could mean either. Which means her comment has ZERO value until clarified. SHER - which is it? both - TOGETHER at once or both made you side when you took EITHER ONE SEPARATELY?
@@DivineMisterAdVentures In the interest of clarification, I tried to take Serrapeptase first and by itself... Then, I went to buy the nattokinase. I had stopped taking the Serrapeptase because it was making me sick. Then, I tried the nattokinase. It made me sick also...Is that clear???
Some folks simply cannot tolerate it. You must be one of them. Now I will say some nattokinase has had the K2 removed and some hasnt it's possible the K2 in nattokinase caused you issues if yours has not had it removed.
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I guess I would have to stop taking cod liver oil, Or fish oil right?
I don't believe they are needed. They might even be harmful.
@@AskCurtis FAR LESS [ HARMFUL ] IF AT ALL, THAN M0ST PHARMACEUTICALS INCLUDING ASPIRIN - AND WHAT IS 'NEEDED' DEPENDS 0N MANY C0NSIDERATI0NS : AGE, DIET, LIFESTYLE ETC ; I THINK Y0UR BELIEF IS AN 0PINI0N BASED 0N A NARR0W VIEW - BUT IMPR0PERLY USED, ANYTHING CAN BE HARMFUL...
Thanks. Looking forward to your list.
Question for you. What dose of ASA was your example on? I am taking 81mg ASA daily because I had a 4v CABG in 2017 and have read about the possibilities of nattokinase helping with plaque. ASA isn’t a blood thinner, it is a blood ‘slipperier’ basically since it coats the RBC’s. Would low dose ASA really be that much of a risk on 2k nattokinase?
Talk to your doctor about Nattokinase?! Yeah, as if he or she will even give you the time or, better, if they’ll even know anything about it??! Talking to a medical doctor about nutritional supplements is like trying to get stock market advice from your car mechanic. 🙄
So true! I moved on from traditional an Allopathic doctor and now see a Naturopath who knows about supplements, alternative methods, as well as traditional medicines and she will always try the more holistic route depending upon what I have going on. Most' of the time, it works. I spend one hour with her at each visit which would never happen with a tradition MD. I will never go back unless I have to go to a specialist for a specific issue. I do have a Vascular doc who I have to see who is as arrogant as they come.
My experience as well, which is problematic - for instance read my comment about stopping taking supplements. What if you for some reason one day can't get hold of the supplement, or forget to buy in time - and your blood pressure suddenly rises? As I understand, since it works on its own, nattokinase hasn't a hight receptor engagement, which might be a good thing, since it is harder for the body to adapt and get dependent.
yeah they know jack-shid typically
@rockaboatus588
"Talk to your doctor" is just to avoid being sued for giving medical advice if something happens.
No one asks a doctor about these things. Or if they do, the doctor would tell them only to take prescribed drugs. A doctor has to follow their practice to avoid legislation. (At least in the US.)
I'm Swedish, and we never sue anyone! We actually take responsibility for our own mistakes!
But even here, doctors follow their medical doctrine. And nutrition isn't a big part of that!
@@larsnystrom6698 Yes, you're right. I was simply pointing out the absurdity of asking a physician for nutritional advice. Most people have a hard time accepting that these doctors don't know everything, and especially so when it comes to nutrition and supplements.
I once told my own doctor that I was taking vitamin D3, and she didn't know what in the world I was talking about?!
I am Japanese, and we eat natto every morning. Japanese doctors do warn not to eat natto if you are on blood thinning medication because natto can make it work too well and cause bleeding issues, but if you are not on any blood thinning medication, eating natto or taking natto supplement shouldn't be a problem. We, the Japanese, have been eating natto for centuries.
Do you consider cayenne pepper a blood thinner? Is it something you would use with natto
Does the dry natto work as well? The snacks on the plane...
I wonder if that is why Japan is considered a blue zone?
Thanks for posting. Great to hear from a true source of experience.
Because natto barely has any nattokinase in it lol
Overall Nattokinase has less side affects than pharmaceuticals
My mother has A fib, for the last 5 years. Had a stroke 5 years ago.
Was on warfarin for the last 5 years maintaining 1.8 INR, checking with Roche home test machine.
Has zero cholesterol, excellent diet, zero sugar, alcohol, eats 2 organic eggs per day etc.
Afib was caused by enlarged left atrium due to Mitral regurgitation due to life long heart murmur from rheumatic fever when 14.
Had 2 new valves and Left Atrial Appendage ligation in December.
Once valvular endothielised we went to using natural Anti coagulants.
Height is 5'8" weight 72 kgs.
Dosages.
2000 FU Natto-kinase every 36 hrs, add a vitiman E complex, a Garlic allium complex and a salmon oil complex. Highest quality only, not heat treated.
You can add EFAs and Magnesium if you like.
Also CoQ10.
We have tested her clotting time every 48 hours for the last 2 years, with both the Roche machine and the glass slide method.
You need to look up the glass slide method on youtube.
Basically drop 2 to 3 drops of blood on the bottom of a glass or onto a plate at room temp. Once the blood hits the surface, start a stop watch.
Draw a needle through the blood and upwards observing every 30 seconds. Best to start after the 2 min mark.
The time it takes for a sipderweb of blood, a fibre, to form between the drop of blood and the needle indicates your INR or clotting time.
A normal INR can measure 2 to 5 mins. On Warfarin at INR 1.8 mums time was 5 to 7 mins, sometimes as low as 3 to 4 mins depending on dietary greens. (K1 intake.)
On the above Natto-kinase dose mum measures 5 to 8 mins.
Meanwhile, on the Roche INR machine her INR measures 1.2.
However, this is not her clotting time, but the calculated clotting time based on levels of factors VII and VIII.
Natto-kinase reduces these only around 30 % at this dosage level, but it increases anti-fibrinogen significantly.
This is working so far.
The thing is, everyone is different, because of diet, history, metabolism, genetics, environment, activity.
If you're got calcification of your arteries, that's a problem.
You need a total blood calcium test, and maybe K2.
Taking responsibility for you health needs to start 25 years ago. I'm sorry, but that's the reality.
And reading. The volume of reading to get us to here is massive.
And testing, you have to test everything every 24 hrs to know what your doing, and still we are afraid to get it wrong.
Hopefully, if you've looked after yourself, got off all added sugar, eat whole food and organic diet, zero coffee or alcohol, you can make some use of this.
Damn right!! I was on rosuvastatin for 1 month and lost 2 big patches of hair, muscle pain, drug induced neuropathy!!! 🤯 small percentage of people get the alopecia , unfortunately that was me 😡
I don't think Nattokinase has any side effects. I use it al the time with no issues
I had a mild heart attack 6 months ago, the doctor automatically prescribed Statins.
I had one 40% blockage in an artery. I did some research and found a lot of information on the long term risk of Statins and instead changed my diet completely, after my 6 day stay in the hospital, Other than the blockage no other problems were found. I started taking a modest dose of NattoKinase and had test again at a clinic near my home at the 60 day mark of my new diet and NattoKinase, my artery clog was 18%. I have returned to the gym for 3 day a week resistance training, I gained 6kg of muscle, and my 47 yr old athlete GF said even my erections were stronger. I am75 and feel great. For my birthday she promised to have her close friend to celebrate the birth day and regaining health with a mini-orgy but it turned out she was joking.
Statins are more risky than they are worth and once starting you have to continue the rest of your life because they suppress your natural mechanisms for breaking up clogs.
I take 6 common vitamins and minerals plus L-Citrulline, and essentially the Mediterranean diet and zero processed foods
The biggest problem about talking about these supplements with your doctor is that most doctors don't have a clue concerning what you are talking about. Speaking from experience.
You’re not wrong unfortunately
Framed big pharma , Doctors have to follow legal protocol SOP set up by PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRY .
I’m a retired clinical pharmacist .
You are right. I would never even consider talking to a doctor about any natural supplement. Doctors don't have training in that area and are more likely to push s drug than go the natural route.
@@AskCurtis Doctors need to be trained in nutrition as well as the other things they are taught.
One year plus on Natto, 10 years on serrapeptase with no noticeable side effects. I would like to have a thorough look at blood chemistry, arterial plaque, etc. Visible scars are reduced, Peyronie's scarring and curve is much reduced, BP and weight much lower, joint pain reduced to mostly none, trigger finger gone, sinus and lung congestion cleared. Very active dreams, clearer thinking, speech hesitation gone.
No sugar, very low carb diet for 2 years.
Very impressive anecdotal changes for the better.
Thanks for sharing your experience Dan. Very interesting
I agree, very interesting…
Do you think it's the Natto or Serra that's helped with your Peyronies?
Serrapeptase. I added the nattokanise years after using serrapeptase regularly. The curvature is not eliminated but is greatly reduced, along with a reduction in other Peyronie's symptoms.@@Cosmo-Kramer
@@danpatterson6937 That's great to hear. I wonder, have you ever tried Lumbrokinase? It's even more potent than Serrapeptase (and Nattokinase). It's expensive, particularly if you get the Boluke kind from Canada, which is the purest form of Lumbrokinase (which is from the silkworm).
I'm a nurse for 20 years. Talking to your doctors about this is a waste of time. They're there to prescribed pills not a natural remedy.
Most doctors would not even know about Nattokinase and if you told them they would most likely say don’t take it and stick with the drug blood thinner only.
I would agree with that.
Going to an M. D. is never my first choice. Alternative practitioners are popular for a reason. Same with veterinarians. I choose alternative.
Exactly! No money in natural methods and no kick backs $ from big pharma! My husband is trying to 'school' his doc on a few things regarding issue when he see him.
I asked my PCP if he was familiar with proteolytic enzymes. He said ,"Yes." I asked his opinion. His face reddened, and for a solid minute he said nothing. When he finally spoke he changed the conversation, never answered my question. If I specifily asked about Nattokinase he probably would have passed out!
@@dorothybrown8859schooled by "Big Pharma"
I would say that there have been more serious (and sometimes fatal) side-effects from Warfarin than Natto.
Yeah, not surprised as Warfarin is marketed as rat poison by causing internal bleeding.
@@davidotness6199 That it is. It's an insidious substance, causing slow bleeding so that the rats don't suspect it - until it's too late.
💯! Yup!
hence why I dropped the former take the later and replace Warferin with Cumin.
@@davidotness6199 Very true. More insidiously, rats are known to be very suspicious of anything new, so W causes internal bleeding slowly over time instead of suddenly.
My wife is from Japan, so much of what we eat is Japanese Cuisine, including natto, of course. I have been eating natto for many years (30 plus) with no side effects. Our youngest daughter ate natto with soupy rice instead of baby food when she was an infant ... with no side effects. She loves natto to this day. It's a great food. I believe that claim that it can thin the blood ... so does garlic and other foods. I just find the foods that I enjoy eating and that agree with my gut and just make that a routine.
Thanks for sharing Steve
How do you get over the smell of natto so you can eat it? One of my sons moved to Japan in 2009 and after about 5 years there married a Japanese girl , loves it there and most likely never come back to the US except for visits. He still can’t stand the smell of natto so can’t eat it.
@@rambleon2011 gee! It’s not that bad people claimed to be. I’m eating natto right now. And I’m a fuzzy eater. Just think about the good stuff it offers. ❤️❤️❤️
Best comment. All facts. My Mom's Dr. is from India. She's had a stroke, and he says natto is fine. Space them out from meds.
I think it needs to be pointed out that theres a difference between nattokinase and natto. The nattokinase you buy in pill form is an extract. Natto is fermented soybeans that contains nattokinase along with other nutrients. Although natto contains less nattokinase than the pill, there may be an advantage to eating natto because you get the full synergistic effect. Just my 2 cents. Im not a doctor, expert or professional in the field of health.
For what it's worth, I had a bad side effect from nattokinase but switched to natto itself and have not noticed it at all.
Don't sweat it brother. Your comment proves you are more educated than MDs and it proves you don't have to have overrated credentials to be educated and knowledgeable
YES, AND IT DEPENDS 0N THE NEED T0 TAKE NATT0KINASE 0R JUST NATT0 - AS A F00D NATT0 MAY BE M0RE SYNERGISTIC BUT NATT0KINASE IS A 'NATURAL' MEDICINE AND W0RKS FAR M0RE QUICKLY ! MY 2 CENTS W0RTH :-)
Japanese are freeze drying roasted Natto that you can buy in a bag to sprinkle over food. Many Japanese don’t like fresh either. My mother loved it but I can’t deal with the texture.
From what I've read nattokinase is made from natto so you would think it would be similar in strength. However suppose it depends how much natto one eats.
My present age is 77. From January 2023 I took 4,000 FUs of nattokinase a day for 10 months. Then I increased my dosage to 10,000 - 12,000 FUs a day for 5.5 months until May first, 2024. Now for the past 4 months I have been taking 20,000 FUs per day. I take zero prescription drugs. I'm trying to reduce a CAC score of 305 that I had in January 2023. I plan on getting another CAC score in January 2025 (in 4 months).
Thanks for sharing your experience Steven. Keep me posted on how things go for your next test.
Please keep us posted!!
Internal bleeding is associated with blood thinners, and seems to be very rare with nattokinase vs very frequent with synthetic blood thinners.
The issue is with people taking both.
@@Pushing_Pixels The issue is factually Big Pharma, pushing the Blood thinner when Natto might help just as well if not even more efficiently.
Yes!
White willow bark (the natural help), no side effects, Docs don't like anything natural, generally.
@@tc41089 That is Aspirin though in its natural form.
I personally, take nattokinase and lumbrokinase. And never feel any side effects. Have improved my health. I am not taking any prescriptions, am 64 with 4 different stent interventions. 7 months ago I change my Diet, T Carnivore and Animal Fat, since that time, My Skin Psoriasis disappeared, And not taking any prescription, and I feel, like long time ago. My blood pressure is normal, No Angina. My Diet was The “Healthy “ and never saw progress. Is Incredible but My Wife and my Family are my Witnesses. Thanks.
Thanks Ramon
You take both supplements?
Can we talk?
Fyi, just went to dentist who got covid March 2020. He went partially blind as an effect of covid. Rare!
What did they give him at a Nashville Tennessee hospital? Nattokinase for 2 months. He's totally fine and practicing today
Great story. Thanks for sharing that 👍
It helps eliminate spike protein caused by the jab and the illness
Probably caused by the jab
I’m taking nattokinase to help recover from jab injury
@@tomw7784how’s it going so far
@@tomw7784 how’s your recovery going?
A recent clinical study showed there are no side effects of nattokinase whatsoever unless one is taking certain medications
I brought this up with my wife's nerosurgeon after she developed a blood clot after a benign spinal tumor was removed and he had never even heard of it.
I take Nattokinase and feel much better than before.
covid
What dosage u use?
I have chronic fatigue syndrom and, in my case, nattokinase is the difference between being too weak to care for myself (micro blood clots) and being fully healthy. So, this was very helpful, thank you.
How much do you take per day?
Hey brother do you have long covid ?
Nattokinase and serrapeptase can defintely cause constipation when first taken, which is not often mentioned. It's advised to manage fluid intake accordingly when supplementing with both.
Good to know!
is that when you are taking the 2 of them? not had constipation with just Nattokinase i am going to get some D3 also seeing that the Nattokinase gets your body to produce K2 vitamins and they need the D3 work with the K2.
I HAD A HUGE B0TTLE 0F SERRAPEPTASE THAT DID N0THING F0R ME, BUT NATT0KINASE HELPED MY BL00D CL0TS, BUT DID HAVE C0NSTIPATI0N, BUT EASED THAT ISSUE WITH ST0PPING DRINKING C0LD WATER AND ATE PRUNES 🙂
I got constipation with just Nattokinase.
As a IBS patient, I got severe bloating and hard stool on my first day with Nattokinase. So I stopped after 3 days trial. Phama Co. should warn about this.
Here's an idea, take nattokinase and don't take blood thinners. My husband's friend died from blood thinners. My idiot doctor wouldn't know what nattokinase is never mind have an opinion worth while on it.
agree 100%. Heart medicine and blood thinners are dangerous. My dad did them for years and felt like shit
I asked a team of doctors in the haematology dept of one of the UK’s most respected children’s hospitals and not a single one had heard of Nattokinase. This was about 8 years ago and unless big pharma have pushed it since I can’t see that knowledge changing.
I wish that everyone could be on the same page so many doctors don’t even have background information on supplementation. This was very informative. You really have to dive deep and do your research.
None of this information is new to me. I use to live in Japan back in the day. Slowly and gradually I learned to like Natto. Natto is completely different than regular soybeans. It fermented. A totally different process is done to the bean. To this day I still eat Natto. Actually, I love the stuff. I'm not a fan of regular soybean or soy products. I stay away from them. Just Natto I eat. It's a superfood. Very healthy for you. It has the most Vitamin K2 than any other food. K2 can help clear out the arteries. Very heart-healthy, and yes it has Nattokinase which has many health benefits as well such as lowering blood pressure. If you're on BP meds. be careful eating Natto. Monitor your BP. It can drop. It's also loaded with probiotics. Great for your digestion.
Hi uuzoo
Would taking a Nattokinase capsule
be as good as good as eating NATTO .
so smoking a joint and eating natto is a no
Finally someone who Knows what they're talking about 👍
@@lindapestridge3073 I don't eat Natto every day. So I do take a Nattokinase supplement. I just don't take a lot of it. Too much of it can thin out your blood too much. You don't want that. Especially if you're prone to bleeding disorders or on blood thinning medications. Personally, I think eating Natto is better than taking the supplement. Getting nutrients from whole foods is always better, but supplementing is still worth it.
And beneficial for strengthening bone so very good for osteoporosis sufferers
I've been taking Nattokinase supplements at 8000 FU daily. I have had no adverse side effects. I have noticed that my blood pressure has been much better controlled. I used to wake sometimes with headaches. I know most people whose blood pressure elevates have no symptoms, but for some reason I have always been sensitive to this and get a recognizable headache. These have went away. Of course, I continue with my hypertensive medications. But I find nattokinase to be a real plus.
My experience. I'm 74 and prior to my ablation in Dec of 22, I was 100% AFIB for a year and a half. My AFIB started in Nov 2015 and progressed in spite of medications. While on Eliquis my doctor had me on a baby aspirin as well. Over time I developed severe nose bleeding requiring visits to the ER. The doctor took me off the aspirin and the nose bleeding decreased but didn't stop completely. I started taking 2000 FUs of Nattokinase a day about a year before my ablation was done because of the recent epidemic that appeared in 2020. After my ablation in Dec 2022, my AFIB went to zero and has remained so since. I was taken off Eliquis, but I still take 2000 FUs of Nattokinase with no bleeding problems to date. I also have a pacemaker due to sick sinus syndrome causing bradycardia.
Hi,
Thank you for posting this. I was looking for someone who says the have an ICD and taking natto. My mom also has one and I want to try natto with her. She’s 69 also taking Eliquis and an aspirin along with other meds for her lungs its all just too much and none of it is making her better. So Thank you again.
God bless - I have bradycardia and have a pacemaker. I had afib and was cardio- verted a year and half ago and have been afib free since. I always took Natto supplements - but my Doctors have no idea what that is and put me on Xarelto - I want to get off it - and continue natural blood thinners.
I am 65 - how are you doing recently?
nice and informative, to the point, thank you for not trying to act like a "youtube star"
Thank you 👍
@2:23 -- _"A 92-year-old female; she was not on blood thinners..."_
Since you didn't mention the dosage she was taking, I went and read the case study (thank you for providing links to your references!), and noticed that the authors didn't give a dosage either. But as I read further I discovered why: _"Our patient had been ingesting nattokinase daily. She is unsure how many she takes, _*_“sometimes a handful”._*_ She lived alone and as such there was no one to confirm how many nattokinase supplements she had been taking daily."_
Yikes! Alright, kids, important safety tip: don't take pills by the handful, mmkay?
It should also be noted that the patient _"presented to the hospital _*_for a mechanical fall."_* So it's quite plausible to suppose that her internal hemorrhage was precipitated by this event, and not just a "spontaneous" bleed.
Man, I love intelligent people. ❤
Just started taking 4000 FU Nattokinase. Appreciate the info you've provided.
Thank you and I’m glad you found the video helpful.
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Please keep us posted on how things go 👍🏻
How has this been going for you? I was going to start the 4,000 I believe Dr Andrew brand next week.
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That’s the brand I started taking about two months ago if you have time respond and tell me what your experience has been .
@@christopherd7922I have been taking the Dr Andrew brand at 4000 FU. I am just not sure how much to take though: is it 2x 4000 FU per day or I had heard you need 11,000 to have the benefits of clinical studies but I’m a bit scared to take 11,000. Do you know?
@@lapislazuli7876My Neprinol from Arthur Andrew arrives soon which contain 15 000 fu’s per capsule of a mix of nattokinase, serarapeptase and lipase. And I’ll be taking them as soon as they arrive.
Thank you for this important video. It is this kind of analysises that enable us average people to judge for ourselves what is good for us.👍😊
I make my own natto using subtilis bacteria and it doesn’t need to be made with soybeans necessarily. I prefer the flavour of natto made with split chickpeas, it’s still sticky with the long threads but tastes better in my opinion. There’s a good amount of nattokinase in it as well according to some studies I found using Google scholar.
I eat tofu every day, and started taking 4,000 FUs of Nattokinase a couple months ago, and recently upped my game by making Natto. Results, all the joint pain in my knees and hips went away. I'm 69. My Dr had me on ibuprofen daily that was destroying my gut lining. He had no problem with that, and no I didn't ask him if Natto was safe.
I’ve been taking 2000 a day for a few weeks on empty stomach in the mornings ! Seams to be helping with brain fog !
You should talk about Lumbrokinase, Serrapeptase ,
Nattokinase and Red Rice Yeast with K2 Mk7 for decreasing calcification and their interaction . Thank you 🙏
Thanks for the suggestion Domenico 👍
@@AskCurtis my curiosity is about the affect of serrapeptase on old surgical sites, especially larger major surgical scars. Could the scarred area weaken and possibly reopen.
My mother has A fib, for the last 5 years. Had a stroke 5 years ago.
Was on warfarin for the last 5 years maintaining 1.8 INR, checking with Roche home test machine.
Has zero cholesterol, excellent diet, zero sugar, alcohol, eats 2 organic eggs per day etc.
Afib was caused by enlarged left atrium due to Mitral regurgitation due to life long heart murmur from rheumatic fever when 14.
Had 2 new valves and Left Atrial Appendage ligation in December.
Once valvular endothielised we went to using natural Anti coagulants.
Height is 5'8" weight 72 kgs.
Dosages.
2000 FU Natto-kinase every 36 hrs, add a vitiman E complex, a Garlic allium complex and a salmon oil complex. Highest quality only, not heat treated.
You can add EFAs and Magnesium if you like.
Also CoQ10.
We have tested her clotting time every 48 hours for the last 2 years, with both the Roche machine and the glass slide method.
You need to look up the glass slide method on youtube.
Basically drop 2 to 3 drops of blood on the bottom of a glass or onto a plate at room temp. Once the blood hits the surface, start a stop watch.
Draw a needle through the blood and upwards observing every 30 seconds. Best to start after the 2 min mark.
The time it takes for a sipderweb of blood, a fibre, to form between the drop of blood and the needle indicates your INR or clotting time.
A normal INR can measure 2 to 5 mins. On Warfarin at INR 1.8 mums time was 5 to 7 mins, sometimes as low as 3 to 4 mins depending on dietary greens. (K1 intake.)
On the above Natto-kinase dose mum measures 5 to 8 mins.
Meanwhile, on the Roche INR machine her INR measures 1.2.
However, this is not her clotting time, but the calculated clotting time based on levels of factors VII and VIII.
Natto-kinase reduces these only around 30 % at this dosage level, but it increases anti-fibrinogen significantly.
This is working so far.
The thing is, everyone is different, because of diet, history, metabolism, genetics, environment, activity.
If you're got calcification of your arteries, that's a problem.
You need a total blood calcium test, and maybe K2.
Taking responsibility for you health needs to start 25 years ago. I'm sorry, but that's the reality.
And reading. The volume of reading to get us to here is massive.
And testing, you have to test everything every 24 hrs to know what your doing, and still we are afraid to get it wrong.
Hopefully, if you've looked after yourself, got off all added sugar, eat whole food and organic diet, zero coffee or alcohol, you can make some use of this.
Hi Curtis-i've been taking 2000 FU Nattokinase for several months now-no side effects so far! Nice presentation!
Thanks Paolo. Appreciate you sharing your experience.
2000 FU is said to be a very low dose to be useful.
@@humanyoda i'm only taking this low of a dose because I am taking other blood thinning supplements as well (gingko. omega-3 fish oils, vitamin E)
2000FU is generally safe. 7000 FU may be pushing it. Too much water is bad for you too. Everything in moderation is generally a better approach.
@@AskCurtis
I came across your interesting channel
I have been diagnosed with chronic bacterial chronic prostatis.
It has been 8 years. Pain only goes after Ejerculating.
Urologist done seman sample & came back with infection, Ecoli & Staphylococcus!
Have only been given Antibiotics twice ONLY for 5 weeks for a chronic infection of 8yrars & they didn't work. (But pain went away for many months after & then came back)
just wanted to know if a Regular prostate Massage aswel as supplements like saw palmeto along with prostate Massage & Long course of Antibiotics & serrapeptase will or could help?
Any opinions?
Thank you for your Time.
One aspect of nattokinase as well as other supplements that works and are not part of common nutrition is what happens when you stop. In another video someone commented that her blood pressure went up since stop taking nattokinase. There might be a similar reaction to when not taking regular medicine, with racing heart and strongly elevated pressure. This is not well studied as I understand and could potentially be very dangerous.
Just eat Natto a vouple times a week.
@@tomhickman1006where do you get it??
I had a triple bypass surgery last year, based on a cardiac cath (all were blocked 90-95%). Is it possible to have cleared them to below 50% blockage with Nattokinase for a year or longer? I'm doing fine now and want to start Nattokinase for heart health and blood pressure. Good vid, Dr. Curtis.
I don't know if anyone could answer that for sure but Nattokinase is powerful in that regard. Thanks for the kind words 👍
It does not do what you need if you don’t use it daily. Spoken by one who knows from personal experience.
problem with cardio vascular system is weak arteries. Why the arteries thicken and get plug is just lack of right nutrition to keep them well maintain and also taking in foods which promote inflammation and damage to the cells and walls in the vascular system. What builds strong arteries? That is what you need to concentrate because even if you clean them up lets say with Nattokinose or some other mechanical ways, if you do not change the nutrient in take to support building healthy cell walls in your arteries you will eventually get the same issue again. Eliminate the cause of the issue and you wont have to deal with symptoms, because the system will work well.
I bet your VA doc didn't recommend that! Mine is atypical by the book medicine guy.
I've taken nattokinase 4000 FU for the past four years, on an empty stomach before settling down for the night. Refused pharmaceutical intervention. In my late seventies a firm believer in nattokinase. No side effects.
Thanks for sharing your experience
My only reservation is whether effective dissolving action might cause an piece of plaque to break off and cause a heart attack or a stroke.
From my research this is only an issue if you have a blood clot when you start taking nattokinase.
Thanks, @@vapeking466. I sent the study discussed in this video to my interventional cardiologist (I have three stents in play at this point) and he's cool with it.
Yep, much better to keep all your plaque & reinforce it everyday to keep it secure...That is the regular solution, each day the circle gets smaller as the pipe fills...
Good point about clots breaking loose with this stuff. I know everyone wants these things to work but when you have clots and then see Dr they can go in and retrieve them or put you on a heparin drip bed rest until you get through it or scoop it out... If you think your blood too much and have an accident you'll probably be in worse trouble. It made me bleed badly!
Yep you should be worried, as thats what happens without...Then you get the killer drigs from the pharma aswell...
Don’t waste your time consulting your physician about nattokinase use. They are oblivious for the most part. And ignorant in general of natural health remedies.
Very timely information. I’m just finishing titrating down off 90 mg Ticagular 1 year after a heart attack and a stent put in 1 artery. I’m doing a week wash out and then plan to start natto. I was just wondering about the 81 mg aspirin I’m on so I’ll stop that too. I’m 71 yr old female and did not know about the bleeding issues that can occur either. Thank you.
You're welcome Gail. If you haven’t already, you’ll really enjoy my free checklist and email list: curtis-alexander.com/
You should talk to your doctor before stoping the aspirin and taking the this herb especially being a heart patient.
@@darioussmith3450 actually I did talk to my cardiologist just last week. I was getting results from a recent stress test and I did mention my actions around getting off of the Rx meds I’ve been on for a year. He was okay with the reductions of beta blockers and the Ticagular but did recommend staying on the aspirin and the candesarten blood pressure medication. I’m not anti Rx drugs but I am also not a sheep taking stacks of that stuff just because they told me to. Thankfully, my doctors are accepting of my decisions. I was on a keto diet regimen and supplements and my blood tests are showing very good results. I do check things out as we all should theses days.
@gailfagan7579 as a heart and now post transplant patient, I am with you on supplements vs Rx. That said, as an engineer we know it is key how to measure our results to goal. In our case with blood "thinness" or clotting factor this measured by INR test and deternines time for blood to clot. You could ask your Cardio for a target INR value and use that goal for any thinning method. RX or Natural. It is the test for determining blood thinner dising for Warfarin and others.
@@cpntexas_x thanks for the info, the name of the test. I just had blood drawn for my regular doctor and will get results in a couple of weeks as he’s on vacation. I’m doing quite well since I stopped the Ticagular and started the natto and reduced the beta blockers to a very small dose at night. I can walk up hills now without having to stop so that’s a big improvement. I hope the tests confirm that is what is happening.
Per your comment soliciting comment... 79 Y.O. male, no pathologies. Statin & Losartin, healthy as a horse. I started on Nattokinast 8000 FU almost a year ago. Have had two GP medical exams and one exam by the cardio dude since starting, with no findings and no comments.
I have been supplementing with nattokinase for over a year, but a while after I started taking 2000 FU daily, I noticed even small scratches/cuts seemed to bleed much more than they had before, which concerned me a bit, so I cut back to taking it only 3 days per week.
Thanks for sharing your experience Lloyd
Kudos, Lloyd, for being in tune and listening to your body!
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Great information. Not a lot of unnecessary introductory information which you could acquire if you weren't familiar with nattokinase. For those familiar with it the information was right on!!
Thank you - I appreciate that
I took one pill of Nattokinase and had the most dreadful brain fog, dizziness and confusion I’ve ever had. I take other prescription meds and think I had an interaction.
Thanks for sharing your experience
Yeah. You probably should avoid it then. It really should have no noticeable effect. I had a Dr. Jekyl/Mr. Hyde issue when I tried the prescription thinners. I forget which one. But you only have to cuss your boss out and throw a hissy fit in the office once to realize that something is wrong... ! :)
I had same. Took with Lisinopril and Citalopram.
No side effects. It’s a fantastic supplement
Just like every other post you try and learn the truth. And you don’t! You get to the last contradicting comment. And your no better off.
Everybody's different genetic chemistry & diet means it won't be the same for all. I've had zero issues with NK or Lumbrokinase. My cholesterol panel numbers have improved. Supplement caution is warranted but pharma owned medical wants you to fear supplements.
@@claudedaniels5415I agree. Everyone says something different and it’s hard to know who to believe. Some people in here say they have no side effects and others say they had strokes because of it. Who do you believe?
My blood pressure normally runs low. Started taking Nattokinase and my blood pressure became even lower than normal and I found myself feeling extremely fatigued. Lowered the dose to 1/2 of what I was taking and felt a lot better.
I have been on 2000 fu of nattokinase for 5 yrs with no issues from my naturapathic docs request . So far i think its done me well 😊
Did you take any other supplements with it?
Thanks Nola
@Curtis Alexander, Pharm.D. much welcome Curtis 🙂
@@المطرالحالم yes I take a lot of other supplements 😊
@@NolaC69 What is the reason that prompted you to use it ;; What are the benefits after 5 years? ؛ thanxxx nola
I’ve taken it for over a month with no ill effects
taking nattokinase is indeed an ideal way to reduce your risk of stroke and heart attack. the key is dosage. Stick with 2000 FU capsules only.
thanks for the tips, got some on the way, 65 yo with no history, decent shape, survived heart attack, no meds for me type........
I've taken it for approximately a year without any problems. It makes sense that those who react to soy should think twice about ingesting nattokinase and this was likely beneficial to some in pointing it out in this video.
Thanks for sharing your experience Daniel. Much appreciated
At 73, I've been taking 10,000 fu recently. I may cut it down to 8,000 as a
precaution after seeing this. Agreed on doctors knowing nothing of
nutrition. They want to write prescriptions.
I don't know if its because I'm taking Methatrexate, but within two weeks of taking Nattokinase my skin started weeping and bleeding where I wore jewelry. The back of my neck from my gold necklace, My fingers from two gold rings and my ears from my earnings. I also noticed my skin was becoming really delicate. When I scratched my skin even gently, it opened up like I'd been at myself with a knife. I stopped taking it and the problem stopped.
Wow ! That sounds really scary. Glad you are now okay.
Yikes! I'm one pill in but after reading all of these side effects, I'm stopping it and returning the bottle. I take a statin, a beta-blocker and just stopped my Plavix blood thinner and generally have no side effects. I'm 51 so, having tinnitus, some ED and some slight muscle pain in the last few years could be any number of things. I'll stick with my meds and go try some natto instead.
Methotrexate can cause skin thinning. It's a good idea to wear sun screen while taking that medication.
@Gsquared_08 Keep in mind studies have shown that it's safe to use unless you are on blood thinners.
@@GoferZeroSixover and over, videos say DONT take natto if you are on blood thinners.
I got healthy after years of being really sick threw out all my prescription medication and stopped seeing doctors
I've just started taking this and it's helped me with my CFS so much. Need a few months to bed to see if these benefits hold
Thanks for sharing Oliver 👍🏻
Updates :)))) it’s been a few months…
@@JRESHOW hey there... definitely still helps, although a rash has appeared on my ankle which may be related..
I deffo feel more oxygenated on it.
I'm just trying to find a dose that's right for me still.
But I think it's worthwhile starting at a low dose and seeing how it goes.
I don't think I'd want to stop taking it now but I think my system is very sensitive and everyday may be too much....I think blood is getting back to parts of my body that were clogged. My thinking , my feet and hands are warm .
But I'm worried that rash is blood that's come through. Going to see the doctors about it but just feeling less of that vascular sluggishness is great
@@JRESHOW the rash is tiny btw but persistent. I'm overweight so it may be that weight plus thinned blood has caused it. Or might be unrelated.
But I feel a twenty percent noticeable improvement in all symptoms minutes after taking it
Thanks so much for the reply!! I started taking 1/4 dose of a 2000iu “doctors” best I got off Amazon the other day. I’ve took probably 3 pills total, just to make sure I wouldn’t have any crazy reaction. One of my most symptoms is having cold hands and cold feet. I never had cold feet or hands before this and it is just so hard to deal with. I’m going to continue to up the dose to 1/2 tomorrow and probably a full pill the following day. Hoping this helps. I also bought some nato powder off Amazon, sourced in Japan, and may substitute the pill and just use that instead. I hope your rash subsides and you keep moving in a healing direction :))
After taking nattokinase for two weeks at 2000fu, I feel movements in the veins or arteries of my head and soreness there so I stopped for a while and will stop taking for at least a month to monitor. I also had sudden blurry vision like a curtain dropped over on one eye though this cleared up after one day. Just relate this for mutual sharing
Taking natto and eliquis together for over a year. No problems whatsoever.
What doses of each are you taking? I've just started on Eliquis and stopped Nattokinase/Lumbrokinase and I am considering my options.
I had to cease with taking BP medications due to serious side effects. I have taken Nattokinase for 6 months now and most of the side effects have abated. But there is a warning that if you need dental treatment or surgery to stop taking it for a week or two beforehand. If you have an accident you would bleed, but similar with aspirin and other blood thinners.
I took Nattokinase for about a month and the side effects were significant. Muscular/joint pain. I also feel very tired as if I have covid all over again. I stopped taking it but I figure something must be happening for me to feel this way. Maybe it's the side effect of the spike protein being broken apart?
I just took it first time this morning and feel like I have covid… super tired with headache and tingling
@@mhasson33 Also, I've been experiencing some tinnitus likely due to the endotheliitis
How much did you take and what brand?
@@mhasson33are you vaccinated?
@@wonkywaterpipe123 I had the first two shots around March 21
I'm taking Nattokinase... It's great.. I'm 83....
Thanks for sharing 👍🏻
Have been taking 2x4000fu morning and evening, with dihydroberberine, d3k3mg ubiquinol and fish oil for a few months. Feeling great.
Thanks for sharing your experience
Interesting talk, but regarding the 92 year old woman, (considering the average woman's lifespan) I would think there could be many reasons for her death, including old age.
4000fu a day gives me nosebleed so i stop taking or go down to 2000fu per day (100mg)
After a heart attack, for which I refused a CT scan and thus further treatment, I was taking 2000fu of Nattokinase, along with cayenne and garlic and turmeric and garlic. Well I got a small cut on my finger and it bled like a fountain for about four times as long as what would be normal. That was my wake up call to back off from too many blood thinners. I cut the Nattokinase in half.
Thanks for sharing Kathy
Make my own natto, my blood pressure has normalized where I am off Coreg and statins. I don't take nattokinase, but the natto I make is the chopped up version from what I have understood is higher in k2 and spermidine. 70 years old and I have my natto for dinner. I am off all medications except for the vitamins I take. Does it help? I can only answer for myself. (Natto is very easy to make)
Thanks for sharing. Very interesting. Glad it's helping you and very happy to hear you are off the statins
How do you make Natto?
So, if my External Carotid artery is 100% OCCLUDED, will taking this supplement break it loose & cause a stroke...
Yes, potentially
(Not a medical doctor( that’s just my understanding
I had a bad allergic reaction to Serrapeptase and switched to Nattokinase and can tolerate it without any problems. The serrapeptase was giving me at first loose stools then after a few days some diarrhea, and I kept taking it on an empty stomach with plenty of water until finally I experienced an anaphylactic shock with a severe drop in blood pressure, ...I collapsed in the bathroom with diarrhea and in anaphylactic shock. Many believe these enzymes do not make it past the stomach. My case suggests serrapeptase does. I was not taking enteric pills just swallowing with plenty of water on an empty stomach. My side effects mainly diarrhea would start a few hours after swallowing so I conclude the enzyme had to get past the stomach and into the lower digestive track where it would cause me an allergic reaction- diarrhea. Nattokinase I can tolerate, even large doses over many months. I hope it is also able to get past the stomach like serrapeptase could and I hope it is doing some good for me. I do not feel any different though.
What brand were you taking? They are not all the same. Check out Arthur Andrew Medical. I think these are the very best enzymes.
@@delaville680 I was taking Doctor's Best Serraptase 40,000 unit pills. Thanks for the suggestion. I may try Arthur Andrew Medical's Nattokinase in the future although I am a bit skeptical of a supplement company from a place like Scottsdale Arizona. Putting "Medical" in the company name also seems like an easy way to extract a higher price. Very few good things ever came from Arizona! Is their product something pharmaceutical grade? Does "pharmaceutical grade" even exist in the realm of health supplements.
Tyfs your experience with nattokinase. I had 2 days of it on an empty stomach & thought I was going to die from the pain.
@@56dh There are many supplements that are garbage. I use Arthur Andrew medicals products. They are the best. I am very sensitive to many things too, not these.
Hmm, I've no issues whatsoever. Is your gut health good? It may not be allergic reaction, it might be interaction due to leaky gut which anyone eating processed diet is gonna have
Check out this study: Effective management of atherosclerosis progress and hyperlipidemia with nattokinase: A clinical study with 1,062 participants
how do I check it out?
here's the link www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9441630/@@listenwell5340
@@listenwell5340 pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36072877/
@@listenwell5340 pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36072877/
Becareful Nattokinas can dissolve scar tissue, scar tissue or muscle tissues joining up too bone or tendons Nattokinas could possibly dissolve these and only in a few days less than 10 days. I developed a inaugural hernia after taking Nattokinas in less than two weeks. This hernia is the tubes that let the testicles slide down to be exposed outside of the body for cooling the testicles. These tubes heal up so that the intestines don't go down the tube into the scrotum. But after consuming Nattokinas for one and half weeks I started developing pain in my intestines, I carried taken Nattokinas for the next few days then I had to stop the pain would not go away. A couple of weeks later I developed the hernia.
Thanks for sharing your experience Dennis
Natto tastes revolting. The Japanese are brave. Hard to overdose therefore. Easy to see why the kinase pill version is preferred. Blood thinners of all types can and do go wrong. Monitoring is usually needed - blood tests. So Nattokinase related bleeding would be like another cause or activator of a known thing. NSAIDS account for many admissions to hospital with bleeding - their Asprin like effects.
I'm taking Nattokinase and it does make the poop have a Gummy like consistency to it, I suggest to drink a coconut oil with it, so the body can have a balance
How much Coconut oil?
At least a spoon 🥄 of coconut oil or fish oil @@puppetken
I have a ringing in my ears from Natto I think - at least the ringing started around the same time I started taking Natto. But I’m not stopping taking it because I believe the benefit of Natto outweighs the ringing. Natto can break down the misfolded proteins in your brain that cause dementia.
take B1 for that ;)
Thank You! Yes, this WAS helpful! Concise, yet specifically detailled
Thank you 👍🏻
Can I take nattokinase and methylene blue at the same time? Thank you.
So many great safe healthy benefits from this natural bean 🫘 plant 🌱 I do not understand why doctors would not want anyone taking interest’s into the supplement. I’ve seen the people in china all over eating this natural bean healthy diet no side effects whatsoever smh. 😮
Taking it, no side effects…thanks be to God!
Thanks for sharing your experience
Can I take nattokinase if I take NAC and glycine, turmeric and vitamin D?
Yes, I do.
I take a lot of supplements along with nattokinase ..no issues for me 😊
Thanks for information, people with thyroid problems might be allergic to soy. So keep in mind
Can Nattokinase and an ACE inhibitor such as Lisinopril be taken together?? Also, can Natto be taken with a multivitamin that contains K2 as M7??
Medications for high blood pressure (Antihypertensive drugs) interacts with NATTOKINASE. Nattokinase might lower blood pressure. Taking nattokinase along with medications that lower blood pressure might cause blood pressure to go too low. Monitor your blood pressure closely.
@@slocumb1270how about with statins?
You should not use nattokinase with Lisinopril from my research. As for K2 yes it can be taken with nattokinase and some nattokinase actually has K2 but some has had the K2 removed for those who can't do the K2.
@@vapeking466Why is it a no go with ace inhibitors?
Natto is quite good at solving blood clots. This however can lead to something called ischemic reperfusion.
There are some newer papers discussion the role of ischemia and "microscopic" ischemic reperfusion in Long Covid.
Can it dislodge the clot?
I felt a clot in my right leg back in May 2023. Took nattokinase 3 times a day (total of 300 mg) for 2 and a half days and the clot was gone. Since then I have changed my dosage to twice a day with no issues.
However, someone who really understands how to illustrate his ideas with practical data.
I'm on apixaban from an unprovoked Upper extremity DVT of the axillary and brachial vein.
Found out now I'm
Heterozygous for bkth Factor V Leiden and Marburg I (a factor VII pro-coagulation disorder)
I now have had 3 gout attacks, never had gout previously.
Looking to lower my apixaban dosage and replace with Nattokinase.
I currently take eliquis and from the warnings will not then start Natto. However I did read that eliquis dose should be cut in half in this case. I would start with your Dr who will probably not know the answer then ask your Pharmacist who will have a better answer. I take 5mg twice daily and would like to get off of it. Also natto can lower your blood pressure so if you are on meds for that be careful.
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I am the blood clot king. Docs said I should be dead . I took eliquis for a year after slowly cutting down then stopped. Started serrapeptase for 3 months and now natto . I do notice if too heavy (for me) on any of these thinners I get light headed and not feel energetic. Also take vitamin E. My clots were in 2018 before covid ( probably from drinking too much coffee not enough water . So keep hydrated .
Hi, I wonder if natto made of fermented chickpeas has the same benefits like the soybeans natto. I appreciate 🙏 your response.
I take Nattokinase for a few years now cause i have kidney disease and when you have kidney disease your more prone to clots and stroke, only thing i notice is my right temple gets achy when i double dose to about 8000 FU , but a single 4000 FU has not been any issue or side effect of any kind that i can notice . BTW it takes a few days for me to take 8000 FU until i start getting headache . I'm thinking that the enzyme might stimulate detox of toxic bile and when too much toxic bile comes out at once you get headaches and pains of all sorts.
Appreciate you sharing your experience
I make tand eat my own natto and eat 50g everyday. I'm 77, slightly overweight (10-15 lbs) according to charts and tend to always think of controlling my weight all the time. I've found that my digestion is quicker and easier for eating the natto. My blood pressure seems to be self-correcting as well. I think consistency is the key. Eating good quality non GMO soybeans and using wild mint stems for the fermentation process gives great satisfaction. I'm amazed at the well-being I am experiencing in the past year since beginning this regime.
Can you take nattokinase while doing a combat sport ? Or will it cause internal bleeding
Thanks for the video, I have used it off and on and had no problems at all.
As a survivor of prostate cancer and having been put on testosterone therapy where my levels were 670 (ish) and having started dosing myself with 10,000 FU's per day of nato kinase for about 2 weeks before my most recent testosterone test i just had my regular tri-montly testosterone test and it had plummeted to 147. I haven't been able to find any studies on this so I'm guessing for the time being I'll do my own case study and see what happens. It did improve my cholesterol ( a high - back in 2020 to now 169 and the one just before that was 183. My LDL went from a former low of about 123 down to 107 and that is after about 2 weeks of Natto. Guy Palmer
Thanks for sharing your experience Guy. Keep me posted on how things go.
68, male, I have induced a nosebleed while taking both asa 650 mg) and nattokinase (6000 FU).
Do the NATTO fermented beans have the same affect on the human system as do the supplements in tablet form?
From my investigation, vs just nattokinase, fair amount of k2mk7&4. Natto by itself only has 100mg, 2k FU/4oz. Myself, am about to start supplementing with bulk powder, already have capsules. Cost @80-90% less than the pills.
I had a blood pressure jump of about 20 points systolic!!! BE VERY CAREFUL
Thanks for sharing your experience 👍
It cured my dizziness when bending over and stopped mild vein throbbing on my head
Been having vein throbbing, needle-like pin pain everyday. I'm already taking 5000 IU Vit. D3, K2 m7 180mcg & 350mg og magnesium, but it didn't help with the pain. I learned about Vit. B3-Niacin, I took 500mg in 2 days, I felt relief. The flush was just fine. I then reduced it to just 250mg the following days.
How many people were in these studies. Kind of important! Don
Thanks for that warning (a real eye opener).
I just started taking it occasionally in the morning a couple of weeks ago. I mean I might as well, there are many studies on it showing it is a good supplement. I only take one, occasionally two with my vitamin d
Can I take 6000fus of Nattokinase and be safe? I took 4000fus and I noticed a great improvement in my circulation but wanted to perhaps raise it a bit
Most studies have used at least 7000fu a day for positive results.
I take 24000 fu a day no side affects
I took 12k FUs and now 16k FU without any side affects
I like to use simple logic. For example: let's replace nattokinase with warfarin... would we have 2 adverse cases? I'd take tons of them in this case. Thank you
I have tried to take both Nattokinase and Serrapeptase.... They both made me VIOLENTLY ill... I would throw up for hours after taking it. I tried to start with a small dose but would still get sick. Then, I tried to take it with AND without food to no avail.... This saddens me because I have always heard of the benefits but sadly, I unable to take advantage of it... 😢
Thanks for sharing your experience Shervelle 👍
@@AskCurtis Nobody bothered to check to see if sheeeeee took these products separately or together - her language could mean either. Which means her comment has ZERO value until clarified. SHER - which is it? both - TOGETHER at once or both made you side when you took EITHER ONE SEPARATELY?
@@DivineMisterAdVentures In the interest of clarification, I tried to take Serrapeptase first and by itself... Then, I went to buy the nattokinase. I had stopped taking the Serrapeptase because it was making me sick. Then, I tried the nattokinase. It made me sick also...Is that clear???
@@leo1933 Where did you get the Neprinol??
Some folks simply cannot tolerate it. You must be one of them. Now I will say some nattokinase has had the K2 removed and some hasnt it's possible the K2 in nattokinase caused you issues if yours has not had it removed.