Why do we allow ourselves to be defined by others - former President Thabo Mbeki
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- Why do we allow ourselves to be influenced by some other people, who will define us, why do we do this? Such that we lose the capacity to be the change agents that we need to be.
Former President Thabo Mbeki's closing remarks during the Thabo Mbeki African Leadership Institute' certificate ceremony on the 3rd of October 2019 to celebrate 212 Students who completed their programmes.
The Acting-Vice-Principal: Teaching, Learning Community Engagement, and Student Support, Prof Veronica Mckay and the CEO of Thabo Mbeki Foundation, Mr. Max Boqwana attended the ceremony.
l am a Zimbabwean and this man rates amongst the best fathers we have on the continent...l think God has kept him alive for a purpose so that we learn a lesson or two from him..koz if you listen to his stories they have a lesson behind if you care to listen...long live papa Thabo
It's true that leaders are born, not made. THABO MBEKI rates amongst the top in the world. Keep on inspiring the AFRICANS, Chief.
I almost cried listening to your speech father, you have always been a smart President.. Africa is mispresented overseas
I can't think of a better head of State than you sir 👌
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (Godstime MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help them call the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details on (WhatsApp or call them now on +2348059891779) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you,,,,,,
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Tata Mbeki to me you are still my President and you'll always be
He is one of the finest and most intelligent son of the soil.We miss you Zizi
This speech is so relevant now
This came from the Du Bois book Soul of the Black folks,
The only south African president who has brilliant intellects
He spoke about looting ... which just happened recently this July 2021 . WHAT A LEGEND!!!
Amazing
Respect to Thabo. Huge respect.
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (Godstime MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help them call the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details on (WhatsApp or call them now on +2348059891779) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you,,,,,,
He is the quality of president we need for the next 20 years. 🙌 We all can still point out the things he did whilst he was still president till this day.
But Zuma and Malema didn't see that on him and planned to take him out of power. Look where we are now. So sad.
Very true son of the soil. Displaying emotional intillegence, wisdom and leadership qualities and an intellectual and an eloquent speaker. History will judge those who removed him from power to pursue their own shenanigans with our beloved country, by giving it free on a platter to the Guptas, looting state institutions to the ground. Yes , he was not a perfect president just like any of us , but to the majority of us, Former Pres Mbeki was much and much better than those who followed after him. Diliquencies, corruption and lawlessness and back stabbers. Look at r beautiful country now, lawlessness and in shambles.
I like this Man...bcz he respect our country...and he didn't steal our government Funds 👑✊
He left the country twice when shit hit the fan. Using tax payer money.
He knows everything about arms deal
@@braynz2378 yes his diplomatic ties with other countries earned South Africa greatest respect in global arena both politically and economically.
@@bastedmseleku1505 oh he knows everything about arms deal? Why didn't Seriti commission find anything wrong from about arms deal? Or is he wrong in your personal judgement ?
President Thabo Mbeki we thank god for the wisdom and knowledge and the opportunity we had with you may god bless you,You are the hero amongst heroes let live son of the soil.
He is an asset to ANC to point out challenges it is facing, and helping members to understand what is ANC and role of members. Let the colleagues listen to him and learn. He is dedicated member of ANC and inspire its members to take South Africa forward without any self interest.
This man is wise...I just like how he uses parables to anawer questions.
NOT a fan of ANY politico but liked & admired this man...an intellect from a good family...
SA ran smoothly whilst he was in charge and then idiocy itself took over... sad
Beautiful speech. True African Statesmen full of love for Mother Afrika....
Dang. I remember a time growing up when Thabo Mbeki was a lot more spry and energetic than he is in this video. I'm saddened somewhat, especially while reading some of these pleasant comments about him, to remember that those days are gone for good. To me, he represents the best of the post-94 presidents and the best of his party in that after him, it's been a dark time for everyone of us. Still is.
the party and government was handed down to empty headed looters who have not come up with no single idea but eaten the very last that was accumulated for this poor nation!
Many thanks for your contribution in emancipating us "Africans" from the colonial hindrances and brain-washed mentality.
Well said Mr president, we need to find ourselves and speak for ourselves and protect ourselves
Yhoo! I have never seen such a brilliant leader, this man is just great and giant of this planet intellectually, hat off my President!!!!! Heaven and earth applaud you Zizi Dlamini
I hv never soon a brilliant misleader who was on da agenda of da Corporate South Africa ..2/3 Majority President by virtue could change constitution to empower n change da Bantu South African majority ,hat off my misleader
@@zisilemoyi3203 I have never seen such an ignorant person like Zisile Moyi , who doesn't know what he is talking about, shame poor Zisile Such a stupid human being you are you are the best fool
It takes a skill to C thru a sellout misleader like the one U so highly respect..brilliant misleader Thab Mbek
@@zisilemoyi3203 it doesn't even take a skilled person to see an ignorant fool and downseyndrom like you who can not even differentiate between a criminal leader and a highly intelligent and respected leader like Thabo Mbeki
@@xoliswamartin5657..what did he for SA with his intelligence you're praising..??..da man was serving wmc..spying those who were against that using state resources..denied HIV nd millions died coz of that..strikes every where coz he didn't want ppl to get increase so he can be praised by his masters wmc for growing their economy bcoz we don't own any economy..trying to get his side chick Phumzile as his successor so she can continue with their mission of wmc..the country was dark city for 4 years struggling with electricity..How did this so called intelligent man help the poor masses.
Very wise speech! let us be united and make Africa grow... First lets fight corruption with our african Leaders.
...corruption is the main enemy bro
I like what the former President Thabo Mbeki said about us allowing others defining us. We have been made to believe that good things come from outside African continent, that's our weakness. We allow the west to tell us what to do and not to do, we Africans can kill each other because of the statements or indirect instructions from the outside people, outside of Africa. Our people , I mean us as African don't believe that we can make it in life, and we allow the outside to tell our story..why? We have abandoned our culture and tradition and everyday the youth are inspired by the non Africans, it is not wrong to have a role model who is non African but Africans can do better as well.
it can be 2yrs ago since yr comments but words of wisdom can never expire
My honourable president
I remember that some well known newspaper editor telling me: Mbeki is a true intellectual.
We really need such wise words in SA. as we are now peceived as the lost generation cos of shortage of Mzimzi's kind of leadership. Former Pres pres you havei served our country with disnstintion. Thank u
Magnificent Thabo very educative
Wow Long Live Zizi elimnyama nenkomo zalo Long Live!
God let this man multiply and his wisdom have ripple effects.
I respect this man...
What for? They are all crooks
I respect this misleader
Who cares?
@@sonofsoweto Y
@@zisilemoyi3203 because it doesn't matter
One of our best democratic Present,, we love you no matter what. We felt your presidency
I pray to meet this noble man one day...
I by very own self value and embrace my African worth period, you like it be blessed, you don't tough
Aah Dlamini, Zizi, Jama ka Sijadu. We respect, honour and value you so much Tata wethu. Every minute spent listening to you is like drinking from a fountain of life, siyaphila maz'enethole 🙏🙏
Yeses uNonqawuse
Yhu! Yinyaiso engangxengwanga le uyitshoyo Nomfusi sisisele senyathi esi, So highly intelligent, very powerful son of the soil, ithandwa ndim lo tata Mfusi Enkosi for noticing him it means you are also so brilliant Mfura nawe the fact that you noticed this noble man few people can notice him in SA other than the outside world Thanks sisi
@@xoliswamartin5657 Thanks sisi same to you. I wish they could have an archived record of all his speeches and produce a catalogue or an audio book. We need such fir the enlightenment of Africa
@@xoliswamartin5657..his intelligence never helped SAs das Y we don't notice him..millions died bcoz of his denial of HIV nd AIDS..remember ppl who talks nice act bad.
@@hloniphanindlela3292 ignorant people can't notice him, I'm not surprised because of their ignorance they thought he is the reason millions death of AIDS occurred,
Wise words my President I still call u that, well spoken clam u a are. God continue blessing u
I like this man and I don't know why
Let me tell you why? Intelligent people like intelligent people that's why you like this man maybe he is just like you.
Xoliswa Martin you nailed it
Freemason
@@xoliswamartin5657 nailed it wrong..start reading and find truth on Fb
Perhaps the reasons why Thabo Mbeki was side lined or recalled was because of his honesty and forthright attitude and even more so his superior intellect to that of many of his contemporaries in the A.N.C..
It is glaringly obvious he was on a different track than say Jacob Zuma.
As can now be deduced by his stance on land expropriation.
It can only lead to disaster.
It didn't work in Zim and to a lesser extent in many Communistic countries where any idiot can see that most of the countries who adopted the Socialist type of governance are left behind in a time warp.Cuba , North Korea. Zimbabwe. The former Soviet (U.S.S.R. STATES)ARE POORER THAN MANY OTHER COUNTRIES.
THERE IS LOT WE CAN LEARN FROM THIS MAN. HE WAS A TRUE REVOLUTIONARIST
I'm so happy majority of Africans have notices that, even the stupid Malema have seen that after the blunder of removing him
@@xoliswamartin5657 You messed up your beautiful comment by sounding angry in the end on that attack on Malema who is not even a subject matter. That points to your obvious inability to control your emotions as you allow them to determine your thought process and how you express yourself…because now you’ve introduced a name your remark clearly because you believe everyone shares your sentiments; as well as assume the fact that everyone would know who Malema is! But to your point on Malema, I am very keen to know on what basis you believe that Malema is stupid, could it perhaps be because you don’t share his political views? Why are your views so right that they make those with opposing views stupid? Could it be because you took everything the media told you about him, unless you’ve met the man to make assertion and with so much conviction. Don’t call others stupid unless it is your own determination of the fact, because that is unfortunately a stupid thing to do. It shows how gullible you are.
@@xoliswamartin5657 You messed up your beautiful comment by sounding angry in the end on that attack on Malema who is not even a subject matter. That points to your obvious inability to control your emotions as you allow them to determine your thought process and how you express yourself…because now you’ve introduced a name your remark clearly because you believe everyone shares your sentiments; as well as assume the fact that everyone would know who Malema is! But to your point on Malema, I am very keen to know on what basis you believe that Malema is stupid, could it perhaps be because you don’t share his political views? Why are your views so right that they make those with opposing views stupid? Could it be because you took everything the media told you about him, unless you’ve met the man to make assertion and with so much conviction. Don’t call others stupid unless it is your own determination of the fact, because that is unfortunately a stupid thing to do. It shows how gullible you are.
I'm listening to this speech in September 2023 And I'm smiling.
I always admired him ....surprised he never made up his own political party ...I'm sure he wud win hands down. ...
I am Zambian so it may not be my place to speak such words but; the south Africans even in the midst of poor service delivery are too nostalgic about freedom fighting days and they'd feel like a Betrayal to ditch the corrupt ANC leadership for any new party no matter how much sense that party made. Until "that" generation dies off u will always be frustrated with the leadership. It's hard to find true, well meaning people to work with. Maybe that's why Mbeki hasn't formed a party. In Zambia the people in the rural areas always let us down when it comes to elections.
@Chali Mutang, you are spot on... Way too Nostalgic. I used to tell my parents that I can't wait for their generation to die and they would laugh at me. It is only through the generations that have no ties with the pre '94 time frames that S.A would begin to kick out the ANC.
The brilliance of this man 💝
As always, eloquent.
What a great Speech I have ever listened to by President Mbeki, Indeed the African leaders are taking Africa to the next level.
Thabo dropping Jewels.
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (Godstime MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help them call the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details on (WhatsApp or call them now on +2348059891779) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you,,,,,,
Great leader indeed! Great leaders are born leaders 💪
Wow Tata nice speech
Intelligent people dont go from the oppression of apartheid to more oppression. Intelligent people do not get dictated too or intimidated by anybody or anything or any collective especially not darkness
Respect this man
I wanna have tea with this President and just listen
Can't we get just one term from him. He is the last of the older generation with the vision of the future.
Mbeki Institute is an Elite Academy.
My favorite President
He inspired many to pursue education... Intelligent man indeed
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (Godstime MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help them call the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details on (WhatsApp or call them now on +2348059891779) tell him I sent an you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you,,,,,,
This is such a brilliant leader
He wasn’t perfect but a very intelligent intellectual shame on the anc for what they did to him
No one is perfect.
People fail to understand Thabo Mbeki because of their corrupt ways and Thank is a man of integrity and order.And people in the ANC took him down because that.
Excuse my ignorance, what did they do to him?
@@mhlengindlovu8450 HIV crisis and his blatant ignorence on the virus
@@mhlengindlovu8450 They replaced this educated guy and highly intelligent President with an uneducated, unintelligent corrupt and immoral tribalist President whose name was Jacob Zuma, They removed this noble President Thabo Mbeki in a very clumsy and unconstitutional way, but because this chap is so brilliant and highly intelligent because of his patriotism he chose not to challenge that to avoid the bloodshed under his name he let them do what they wanted cause had he challenged that he would have won but there would be casualties and even death but he refused that to happened for peace sake....
A highly respectable leader. Having said that, unfortunately it is not because the word xenophobia doesn't exist in our vocabularies this is why what the name describes doesn't exist. This is why sometimes what matters is not how the thing is called but what the thing is.
For instance what xenophobia refers to is what has taken place in South Africa where Africans from other African countries have found their shops burnt, where their fellow Africans from South Africa were saying the problems they have in South Africa is due to the presence of those Africans.
The word slavery doesn't exist in our vocabularies but what dictators do with the people, especially the 60 years old bloody and dynastic dictators at Togo that terrorizes, persecutes, kills in West Africa with their racists, slavers and predators supporters in some European countries is a practical expression of a modern slavery.
We all need to be very careful about how we treat one another. These people in South Africa who have stood against others in South Africa simply because they are from other countries have failed to give a positive sense to the experience of apartheid. Because you who have gone through such atrocity shouldn't be the ones who will burn others' shops and so on simply because they are foreigners.
Did you get the part he says "it was organized"?
My president 🥰😘
One of the best African leaders
Speaking on behalf of the generality of Zimbabwean immigrants living in Mzansi, i think the biggest thing to have happenned to them is the presidency of JZ, Msholozi was a darling and had a warm heart for foreign nationals. My first attempt at making a living unde te presidency of mbeki, life was hell in mzansi.
I wish to have dinner with former head of state Thabo Mbeki
Have dinner and do what really??
What a speech Weldon Mr former president berki
We can not let our selves to be dictated to. It is humiliating and undugnifying and preventing us from becoming a better people.
Good analysis
We were led here as a country... After him... Looting just went viral...
Brilliant, as always.
So true.
I wish that you could visit churches and preach the truth.
Well said
Love Mbeki. Am Zambian and vowed never to go to South Africa even for a holiday. We are afraid of being lynched whilst on a beach but am thinking twice after Mbekis words.
@Michelle Cuthbert brown so let's just say that the tourism industry is only open to non-black folk? If you want the South African experience without the risk of running into South Africans go to Namibia. Lol.
Couldn’t be further from the truth. South Africa would love to have you, don’t believe the lies.
@Michelle Cuthbert brown hi. I am Zambian, my mother is from the ngoni tribe & my father was from the lenje tribe. I have relatives from the Lunda, tonga, ng'umbo tribes. My half sister is ng'umbo. So 'clearly' I am so African if you want lemme say so black. I don't know what I said to u that resulted in u calling me all sorts of names including fake black. In case u misunderstood what I said, this is what I meant; Namibia as a country was managed/administered by the South African oppressive whites govt. Therefore, there is a close similarity between the two counties in social, political, cultural and economic development. It even looks like South Africa. The only difference is the Namibians are very friendly and not violent. So thats why I said it's better to go to Namibia then coz it feels like south Africa coz the black south Africans in South Africa will view all foreign negroes as people who want to take their jobs and possibly Lynch them, meanwhile u are just on holiday.
don't put your foot there ....listen to your heart ...
@@colleenward3425 alright.
Respect
When are we seeing Leaders produced from the TMali programme? It’s been running for some while now and we have been hungry to see some new breed of Leaders and would get refreshed mindset to revive our Country.
EDUCATIVE AND EMENCIPATIVE
Yhoo what an intelligent man
Former president Thabo Mbeki ....I salute u not to seatback watch ANC falling apart tnk u
.....And we must not give ourselves a wrong definition
I am Kenyan. I lived in South Africa for 8 years, I basically grew up there.
But there is one major thing that hurts me to the core, South Africans hate fellow African immigrants than whites who oppressed them for around 300 years and the apartheid regime of 46 where a black man was the perfect allegory of shit.
I was beaten, bullied and harassed by my fellow black students and they always use to chant the famous south African song of " kigwara gwara kinuga kisuga kinuga eeeh" which loosely translates to LEAVE LEAVE YOU FOREIGNERS YOU STINK
During the apartheid regime when South Africa was crippled by chains of discrimination the rest of Africa cried with them, they were aided by The Congo, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Tanzania, Kenya and Uganda but after their independence their leaders turned them against us.
Most African immigrants in South go there to find solace and safety but arrive only to find peril and doom awaiting them.
South Africans need to wake up and change because reciprocity of bad deeds is paid here on earth,
KARMA IS A BITCH!!!
I am sincerely sorry for the bad treatment you received while you were here in our country.
@@pumezamacingwane2018 I also met the kindest people in South Africa who are my friends to this day, therefore I can say South Africa has also the kindest people ever.
Thank you Pumeza
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Good point
If you don't write your own story down,someone else will write it for you and they are going to make you look how they want you to look
True leadership
Classic Mbeki as always
Oh Yes! 😁😀
My President❤❤❤❤
My president
Yes I am
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South African corrupts anc leaders have realised that with Mbeki it was going to be difficult to do their criminal activities, the likes of Tokyo, Phosa and others, so they decided to forward a corrupt man Zuma so that they can achieve their ambitions through him, unfortunately Zuma also outsmart them, but with Mbeki, South Africans regret pushing him aside, he is dearly missed
Very encouraging to hear SAns like u Chauke who are no fake and manipulative with people. Instead of seeing white monopoly capitals that do not exist when things have gone wrong u shoot straight to the truth.
@@yandisambusi4449 it doesn't help to defend individuals over a country that's going down the drain, because of the un-dying love of Tata Mandela and the loyality that people have to the liberation movement, we need to use our brain and wake up as south Africans
@Thabo Sethipa Exactly
On that note I agree with you
He's right we don't have a word for xenophobia in our culture. UNISA itself is teaching about xenophobia I studied the modules that have actually accepted that we be defined by others
President my president
Owsome ex President
Mzizi🙏🙏🙏🙏
Zizi
Also explain why all our SOE’s are bankrupt ? Explain why the education standard has been lowered ? How is that improving the lives of our children? How will they compete in the international arena ?
SOEs are in bad shape because of Pravin
I m still believing in the leadership style of Thabo Mbeki so ANC please recall Ramaphosa's and reinstate Thabo Mbeki
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Mbeki and Cyril are all brilliant, unfortunately, leading the corrupt anc
@@chaukegezani3247 both sellout misleaders masquerading Saint
Geez what ?
Mbex tenure done n dusted his 8 years of misleadership
Mr President you still relevant even today.
Misleader
A very irrelevant man who destroyed Zimbabwe's fortunes by supporting dictator Mugabe and endorsing rigged, unfair, violent elections in Zimbabwe throughout his tenure as president of SA
Why expect a South African man to solve the problems of your country ,Are you not intelligent enough to build your solution to your problems.
@@sizwenkosi8882 remember he was elected to run da show n he made promise so he is obligated to deliver da goods n he's the only 2/3 majority president by virtue he can change constitution to advance n empower us Bantu South Africa hey .does it ring a bell ?
The best sa president they cam ever had
True❤💕
This means that we should be honest as to which race in South Africa is a the cockpit of this narrative. Those who want regime change. Those who lost power in 94.
a good president who lead south Africa with care not this ramaposa alot African has died a worst death under the leadership of ramaposa.viva mbeki
Oh my gosh, does this story have an ending 0:05 🙄🙄🙄 ?????
My point exactly.
What else do they teach the world that is propaganda, designed to make themselves think that they are the best and most civilized people on earth.
My brother took his work mate and wife (both Canadian), to South Africa and including Krugger National Park and they both said exactly the same thing.
The remnant panafricanist & my favourite president Kofi Annan's look alike!!!
The true African
I am African
African president forever
No one serves ones right in a silver platter. Right has to be won and won by force if necessary. It is a crime to be weak. Africa must invest heavily to make their grassroot population aware of the power of their human and natural resources. That awareness has to be created by reshaping their human resource by replacing western education with indigenous mother-tongue based schooling. More important- by replacing "Imported Governments" with Governments of the grassroot level.
I SAW THAT MYSELF NOT 2 LEVEL 2..ON landing it was painful.....