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Its time you got 6'' off your hair my man, it would look much better. Outside of that really good reaction to the video, you spend a lot of time debunking so its great to see you give credit to people who are being reasonable also.
Hi Metatron!😃 As a preety recent fan of yours from Romania, who has been obsesively watching your videos the moment they were posted for like a few months straight, I would really like to get in tuch! I've recently seen that in your last video about the moors, you expressed the intention of maybe using 3d animated for your intro. It would be a pleasure for me, as a junior 3d artist, to create such an intro, not for getting anything in return, but as a way to say thank you for the amazing content you create. I am confident in saying that since I started watching your videos I've been learning a lot more than even in school about history. By the way, I enjoyed alot the video about Vlad the impaler, and I would be delighted to see more content based on my home country, maybe even about the debated latin origin of our people😉
You should watch Martial Arts Journey with Rokas's Ultimate Self Defense Championship season 1 and 2 its pretty fun, but on the subject of knife defense you do see some disarms in some events. The results of the shank tank event in season1 vs season 2 is very illuminating as well.
You should watch Martial Arts Journey with Rokas's Ultimate Self Defense Championship season 1 and 2 its pretty fun, but on the subject of knife defense you do see some disarms in some events. The results of the shank tank event in season1 vs season 2 is very illuminating as well.
I liked this guy, he didn't say "Knife fight" he generally said Knife attack. This is a recognition that knife fights almost never happen, as that means two people recognize that each other has a knife and they both decide they want to keep going. Most incidents with a knife is one guy pulling a knife and attacking the unarmed person.
There was an actual knife fight between 2 men in my current city of residence, Toronto, just this week. Witnessed by a few people. One of them is going to prison, the other is going in the ground.
"Most incidents with a knife is one guy pulling a knife and attacking the unarmed person." fixed that for you, seeing as to how prevalent knife fights are in countries other than America.
@@CrypidLore yeah because knife is easier to hide. I’m more scared of knives than guns. I’ve seen a ground of people at a train station in Asia just bump into someone in a busy station and the guy they bumped into just dropped bleeding. People didn’t realize until the guy have already moved away. There’s usually no sound at all too. Unlike with a gun, you can always see a guy pulling something, even silencers don’t fully “silence” a gunshot, it’s still noticeable if you’ve heard gunshots before. It’s hard to mistake gunshots for something else.
@@hirotakasugi4891 A knife isn't that much easier to hide, and frankly in America a $5 knife isn't much cheaper than a $20 handgun you buy on the streets.
One thing that terrified me when we trained this in my dojo was that I didn't even notice some of the knife hits. Our teachers had us wear white shirts and the other guy armed with pens, and people regularly wound up with more marks than they thought. Another thing was that they had several plastic knifes stored throughout the dojo and sometimes, while we were practicing, the teacher would discreetly pull out a knife and see how many students he could stab before the first one reacted. He could regularly go through like 8 people. Knifes are scary.
The other thing that is scary about knife fights is the mortality rate. You don't instantly go down when the blade touches you. You die in an ambulance 25 minutes later, or in the surgery 3 hours later.
In the Old School days of the late 80’s and through the 90’s, my dojo (formerly a Tang Soo Do school that did several clinics with other styles) had an instructor that liked to do different things. Regularly was knife fighting. Dad grew up in Brooklyn in the 60’s as the only white guy in the area. Taught me how to handle a knife when I was a kid. I was just a Green Belt with a Brazilian guy also Green. We were spending the evening taking out the Black Belts to the amusement of the instructor, a Jamaican guy that was truly spectacular. The knives were rubber and left clear black slash marks on the white Gi. Well the Brazilian guy and I had to go at it sometime, and I will not forget squaring off against him and knowing I was dealing with a peer that had a dad like mine. There was no more fooling around, and the fight was intense and after a few rounds, neither of us could get away without some serious damage. That never left me. Making it real was important.
as a viking reenactor we did that as well, the knife hit were so fast much more difficult to notice combat to sword hits, generally bare chest, an activity at feasts especially....the girls didnt normally take part tho...
You can't always run away. I was in a knife attack, unarmed, and there was no chance to run away, he and I were nose to nose arguing when the knife was in his hand before I knew what was happening, if I had turned to run I'd have been stabbed before I could have gotten more than a couple steps. I put what happened below if anyone is interested. Ironically being so close to him when it started, and him not being a trained knife fighter (I've had zero knife training of any kind, some boxing but that's it), is what I think saved my life. He pulled his arm way back and came in a hook motion, not a straight thrust, so I had time to react and I stepped in even closer to him (why? no idea, I think I tried to grab his wrist) so he over shot my side, his forearm ended up hitting my ribs and not the knife, and I clamped my left arm down on his right arm in like headlock kind of hold and squeezed as hard as could (this was a huge f*cking knife btw, probably 12 inch blade or more, like a small machete). I started punching him repeatedly in the face as we were locked together and by this time my cousins came out of the house and got the knife out of his hand, the knife had a broken grip at the end, the exposed tang did cut/scrape my side up as he was wiggling the knife around trying to get his arm free. The whole thing took less than 10 seconds. Also this started right outside my aunts house and there were little kids, like in diapers age, in the yard playing, oblivious to what was happening, yet another reason you can't always run away from a fight, you might be with people you can't leave undefended.
So you enter the "lucky" category. Congrats on how you handled ! But still it cannot be an extrapolated situation, this could have gone wrong in so many ways.
@@Cancoillotteman i think the idea there was even if he did have a chance to run away, maybe getting stabbed would have been better at that point as it means the stabber would have been more likely to flee the scene... or not. op didn't exactly make it to be a common scenario or one you want to get into, quite the opposite.
That "anxious checking on your weapon" also happens when you first start carrying a gun in public. It's like you think everyone cares or sees it and you always want to make sure it's secure. It goes away pretty quickly, but it's super common
@@Jezus42Same here, now I just do a drawing drill in the morning with whatever clothes I'm wearing that takes about 10 min then forget about it. My pocket holstered LCP2 has gone through the washer more than once!
Dedicated lifelong martial artist here (Wrestling, Judo, Muay Thai, Eskrima/FMA, and currently HEMA and Buhurt). I also spent around 14 years working as a bouncer on the weekends at about a dozen different bars & clubs in the St Louis & East St Louis area. Im 44 years old..going to be 45 soon..and after 30+ years of martial arts training, and a whole lot of real world experience, id have to say that knives, and bladed weapons in general, are some of the scariest and most dangerous things that a person can face in any real world self defense situation. I can also say that over the years, the more ive learned, the more experience ive gained, the more willing i am to actually go out of my way to avoid fighting anyone, for any reason. I am by no means a small guy (6'4" 235-240lbs) and have a wealth of knowledge and experience when it comes to physical violence. I carry a concealed 9mm pistol with me everywhere i go (which i also train with regularly. And YES, shooting absolutely IS very much a "martial art", and every bit as much of a martial art as any other martial art there is) along with a fixed blade knife, and a pair of brassknuckles (completely legal in my state) But I will absolutely tuck tail and RUN AWAY from an altercation, if i can, and if i think that will avoid said altercation devolving into physical violence. I think that for those of us who have been training for long enough, and have enough experience, we have a better and more heightened understanding how truly dangerous fighting actually is. For me personally, it feels like the more i learn, and the more knowledge that i have on how to easily incapacitate or even kill someone, gives me an even greater awareness of how easily I can also be incapacitated or killed. I dont feel as tho I'm doing a very good job articulating my point here, but i think that other martial artists of a certain skill and experience level can relate to what im trying to convey. Anyway, this was a great video, and i thoroughly enjoyed watching it. This guy seems like he really knows what hes doing, and is an excellent instructor/teacher/coach. Best wishes to all who read this, and be safe everyone!!!
G'day, What you said is indeed all true, and the way to boil it down to the essence is..., " When you agree to fight..., You have agreed to Die, unless you spend the rest of your life as a Human Vegetable...; Because, your Opponent May WIN - And that is the Contract Into which EVERY Fighter is buying - EVERY time that they agree to Fight. Such is life, Live a good one... Stay safe. ;-p Ciao !
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So what I am hearing is that our fighting ability dramatically outpaces our actual ability to take punishment. Thanks for the comment from someone who has loads of experience, as I myself have none.
I trained in martial arts for decades. In Lau Gar Kung Fu, we had defence against knife attack as part of the syllabus. I remember my teacher telling us ' if someone pulls a knife on you in the street and you can run, that is the time to do so.'
@@JDoe-gf5oz No, if someone cocks back to punch you on the street, the best course of action is usually to run. Avoid unnecessary physical engagements. Bad things CAN happen.
My philosophy behind this is to be armed. The knife attacker has confidence in his ability to attack you because he's armed, but the moment he knows you're also armed, his self-preservation instinct will kick in. This increases your odds of survival. Luckily, Tennessee doesn't have a blade length law, so move here and buy a sword. Edit: The sword comment was not serious guys of course I'm not going to walk around in public with a sword for self defense..
Unfortunately, what you've said is also untrue. Yes, his self preservation instincts may kick in but if he wants to rob you and is prepared to kill you if you don't hand over your wallet, if he has a firearm rather than a knife, he may decide to take you down then search what's left of you without giving you the option of survival.
@@daviddavies3637 Not exactly. Most muggings and robberies are not to the death. If you pull out a knife on the suspect in question, armed with a knife or not, they will run 9/10 of the time. We see this all the time in cases and videos of victims pulling out weapons on the criminal, and they immediately book it, even if they have weapons themselves. It’s a natural instinct to not want to be harmed or die. Predators avoid fights with things that fight back to avoid death. Humans avoid fights if it risks death. This is a natural instinct any normal person experiences. It’s also why smaller and more vulnerable people are victims of crime. The criminal needs to feel confident that the victim won’t fight back or have a chance to. So the original commenter is 100% correct. And I don’t mean to be pedantic, but bringing up a firearm is a straw man. It’s an entirely different amount of proportional force, but even then, your attacker will be deterred if you are equivalent; your attacker may be more confident if they have distance and a firearm and you only have a knife, but if you both have a firearm and you fire, 9/10 of the time, they will flee.
Since late medieval age/ Renaissance books/ Scripts/ treatisisices about defence against knife/ dagger defence, unarmed, with dagger or other weapons/ items exist. From all kind of people, fencing masters, martial artists, officers/ policemen and even german Renaissance artist Albrecht Dürer, a superstar in his time. 500 years later, no solution for the problem exists, says all.
Medieval daggers attacks are quite different from modern knives attacks: they are more powerful/charged and slower because the enemy was considered with a bit of protection; they also are only stabs and not cuts (from what I've seen). Unarmed against dagger exists in medieval fencing treatises and "you will get cut" is first seen in one of those. Those techniques (barely) work when the dagger is used as intended, but as soon as it's used as a modern knife (a series of quick and light stabs and cuts) it becomes impossibile to defend against.
@@Mr_Yod Medieval knight fights were probably slower due to blade length. most knife fights today are done with short knives that have a very quick stab. most medieval daggers are quite a bit longer as they were multi-use tools or in some fencing styles a secondary weapon. Also, stabs are key because they're harder to block, more damaging, faster to perform, and easier to use from all positions. cuts need space, wind up, etc. draw cuts and push cuts are common though, such as when your knife hand is grabbed by the wrist, you can push cut the opponents wrist.
@itshunni8346 Yes: daggers' blades are as long as a forearm, wielding it point down the tip reaches the elbow (keeping it like that, with the blade attached to the forearm is used in a ridiculous dagger vs long sword defense); that length allows to reach the heart from almost any part of the chest. But nothing stops you from using a dagger as fast as a modern knife (maybe a bit slower, but not that much), with quick stabs.
A lot of this is stuff we learn in law enforcement training. People will swing their arms, bounce on the balls of their feet, look around, and even take their shirts off. If we see indicators like this, people are often preparing to fight us or try to run. This guy's good. I like him.
Former infantryman here. We don't say "you WILL get cut in a knife fight" as a defeatist mentality. We say it to prepare the individual for the shock and pain of a knife attack so they know they have to push through the pain. It's to prepare them for the very likely scenario that they will get cut. If you keep it in your mind that you're going to get cut, you're more likely to either avoid the knife fight altogether, or use a more effective strategy, such as using a longer weapon or firearm. It's not a defeatist mentality. It's to prepare you for shock and pain. Then again, infantrymen have a much different mindset from civilians. We've accepted that we may die. And most of us are prepared for it. So, maybe that's where the disconnect is in my statement.
I wasn't infantry but the messge was still conveyed that accepting that a wound will occur reduced the fear of that wound, which promotes action both during and after that wound. I haven't been in a knife fight but this mindset of not freezing does help one survive. That and having good reflexes that act in conjunction with body mechanics. I had a number of surprise training incidents (from before military service) where i thought a real knife had been pulled and I treated as such. Also removing the knife from play seemed to be the best option. The attacker seems to favor focusing on the weapon so if one does get control of the knife, might be best to toss it out of reach (except in combat context, rules of engagement of course). If the attacker has one knife, as soon as they lose it they'll pull out their second and third till they lose confidence. Focusing on the single knife risks failing to recognize the fluidity of the situation.
about the teacher's thing when I was a teenager I heard a phrase that really stuck with me that says: A teacher can share his experience and techniques but NEVER the result, that's for you to figure out.
16:04 reminded me of when my traditional FMA teacher made the same point while he was teaching me and my friends (paraphrased from Tagalog into English): "Remember that you are training not to show off and get into fights, you are training to develop and discipline yourself, to fix your attitude and be humble. You have done the techniques a hundred times in a controlled environment, do it outside one time and if you are lucky it will work, if not, you are dead. Here's the thing, martial art is a discipline. If you get into a fight and engage instead of getting yourself out of it, tell me, did you really learn anything? Where is the discipline?" This was after we got into trouble and had a brawl on the streets with kids from another baranggay. He was disappointed af with us and what he said stuck ever since.
"we got into trouble and had a brawl on the streets with kids from another baranggay" So the Karate Kid TV series is basically real life in the Philippines
Those are the moments we live for in history; when you can span the ages and connect with those people far in the past. As someone who has been in several fights, I can confirm, like the Greeks, I stroke my goatee, I looked away, I took my rings off, etc. Then to think of the Scythians or the Spartans undergoing those same subconscious routines is truly fascinating.
I have done that but only against complete beginners... that being said defending against a knife attack is completely different, you can't block it with your body, and even a light touch from it will cut you so they don't need to put strength into it and can focus on speed and try to cut you and poke you as much as possible. It's just super hard to defend against weapons when you are unarmed, the best defense would be to be aware of your surroundings and carry a gun.
Metatron, your channel is such a refreshing thing to see on the internet in this day and age. Even from the small things that you do, like cutting a video short to incentivize people to watch the original. It really shows how much you value your integrity.
Thanks! Still trying to figure out what the best way to make react content is. Up to know what I have is don’t use all the video, mention the creator properly, put the link to the original video in the description and pinned comment, make it very transformative adding a lot of commentary.
I watched a video of a guy watching a video of self defense against a bladed weapon. I'm now an impervious expert. Nay, a master. Strike two. I'm a self defense legend.
I remember years ago you did that OG video on this and I vehemently disagreed with your take. Called it cowardly. .......then I did research, rapidly learned that I was the fool.
Wasn't his take that you should always run away and was insistent that its always an option because it isn't. Sometimes running is in fact not possible in which case your best bet is to ramp up the aggression to hopefully disable the attacker before they can kill you.
The "You're going to get cut in a knife fight" thing. Paulo trains special forces people. They are going to get into fights. I also know a guy who trained his fellow Marine Raiders in knife fighting among other combatives. It absolutely is about understanding it's going to happen and not letting the shock of it happening put you at a disadvantage. Otherwise, great video! I'd already watched that particular video, but it's cool to see your take on it.
That statement is good for both the casual person wanting to train if knife all the way to the special forces. For the casual person they need to know that they will get cut so they are deterred from going into that knife fight. For special forces they need to not worry about getting cut so they can fight through it.
Being trained in martial arts and weapons martial arts. I will share the best defense against every weapon you will run into on the streets. Don't be there. Yes, run and don't become a target. There is no shame in running away. It's when you have no other option is when you defend yourself.
This right here. I'm trained in various martial arts and combat training from the military. Granted, it's hard to always keep yourself from danger, but not being there is the biggest defense
@@soulknife20 Isn't that a major training item with the Armored infantry. 1st: Don't be there. 2nd: Don't be detected. 3rd: Don't be targeted. 4th: Don't be hit. 5th: Don't have your armor defeated. We can never control all of these all of the time, but the total system together is important. Don't be in the 'hood. Don't be seen in the 'hood. Don't get selected by a thug....
unfortunately it only works if you can run faster than the attacker, or the knive wasn't meant to be drawn initially/use for threats only. Not so much with attacker already willing to kill and making sure the victim can't run, usually indoor, with someone who they deem libalility, closed off etc. and rarely, a person you personally know suddenly draws a knife on you because they wrote it on their quasi manifesto.
Paulo Rubio is legit. You can't always run away as Icy Mike often goes over. Sometimes you're closed in, what happens when the person can outrun you? If the person is faster than you running won't amount to much huh? The best thing you can do is up the ante and get a weapon, a bottle, a chair, whatever you can get to the advantage. Don't be there if you can, get out of there if you can, grab your own weapon if you can, and any combo of these.
I've always said it's better to run from a knife if possible rather than stand and fight. After seeing someone stabbed once in the chest and killed in front of me by someone absolutely unskilled with weapons and almost a foot shorter than the man she killed, I stand by this statement even more. Unlike a gun a bladed weapon is always dangerous regardless of the skill of the user and never needs ammunition.
I mean, if you're close enough to use a knife and you have a gun...anyone can cause deadly damage with a gun too no matter their skill. Once you start increasing the distance though, then yeah...skill starts to be more of a real factor with a gun; then again, most criminals tend to use these weapons up close with their victims, so the point is kinda moot I think...it's really only with gun battles with police that they become very much disadvantaged as oftentimes the distances are relatively far and police are typically much more skilled in firearms than the average criminal
@ChristoffRevan Although I understand your point, it's really only a surface level analysis of the situation that makes some assumptions about a firearms effectiveness and ease of use.
@maxgehtdnixan4913 If there's something available to defend yourself with I agree. I personally believe everyone should be equipped to defend their lives at all times. That's also why staying in good physical condition is extremely important as well, if you need to fight you have the strength, if you need to run you have the endurance. Preparation is the key to surviving everything.
Interesting what he said about how it's important to laugh and override the fight instinct after. I am familiar with this when it comes to dogs - I have two dogs with plenty of chance to watch them play, and this is also one of the things to look for if you're not sure whether the dogs are (still) playing or fighting for real/one bullying the other. A play fight includes a lot of short pauses and frequent role-switching, which communicates the other dog that it's only a game, like "we still good bro". I never realized it works for humans too. BTW, I'd suggest reworking the title. Currently, it gives the impression you'll be debunking the video you're reviewing.
yeah because knife is easier to hide. I’m more scared of knives than guns. I’ve seen a ground of people at a train station in Asia just bump into someone in a busy station and the guy they bumped into just dropped bleeding. People didn’t realize until the guy have already moved away. There’s usually no sound at all too. Unlike with a gun, you can always see a guy pulling something, even silencers don’t fully “silence” a gunshot, it’s still noticeable if you’ve heard gunshots before. It’s hard to mistake gunshots for something else. It’s also easier to create stabbing implements.
As someone who’s pretty fast, I don’t see knives as much of a threat. But it doesn’t matter how fast you are if someone has a gun, you’ll never outrun bullets. So in my eyes a gun is infinitely more dangerous than a knife
@keeferChiefer you can only run if you can see it. If you’re in a crowded place someone bumping into you is a perfect vehicle for a stab. Knives are scarier because you can never see it if it’s not some random encounter. Even with mass pewpewer, you can see when someone has the weapon. The same way bombs scare me more than guns. The unseen threats are what you should be afraid of not the common one that you can easily avoid or even fight against easily.
@ but it’s okay. It’s fine to be sheltered like you. I’m glad you haven’t had to witness someone just dropping dead bleeding in a crowd of people :) or someone stepping on the ground and becoming meat rain
@@keeferChiefer Do you think it's that easy to hit a target with a gun? It's pretty easy to run far enough away that someone with a pistol will have a hard time hitting you. Meanwhile at close quarters it's possible to force a firearm away from your body so they can't shoot you (though may shoot people behind you) while a blade is far more difficult because everything you have to push against is sharp.
Speaking as someone who teaches knife fighting (I've been doing Escrima/Arnis for close to 20 years now), when we say "you will (probably) get cut", it's mainly to address the shock. We do regular knife sparring (with "beepy knives", or plastic knives that light up and make a beeping noise when you hit with them), and the near-inevitability of getting hit, even if you "win", is apparent fairly quickly. Note that for anyone who is interested in knife sparring, I can't recommend those knives enough - we've tried sparring with the hard rubber ones, and felt-tip pens, or chalked foam knives, and these ones (called "AkuStrike" blades) really do work really well. (I'm shilling for them mainly because I've seen other schools teach "knife defense", and it very obviously wouldn't work - these types of blades allow you to pressure-test a lot more than the other versions do. I do recommend that folks remove the metal clip, though, as we've found that in sparring there is a tendency to clash, and the metal edges can dig into folk's hands and arms.)
It doesn't matter what you say. There's thinking and then there's instincts. Unless you've been poked you won't know for sure. Knife experts who haven't been in actual fights probably don't know what they are talking about. I wouldn't believe a boxing trainer who hasn't fought either.
@@avatarion - two points: 1. it was Metatron that was claiming that the reason instructors say "you're going to get cut" is ACTUALLY in order to dissuade people from getting into knife fights. My evidence is that at least in my case, we say it in order to warn people about the shock. Regardless of whether or not I've been in a knife fight, I have been cut and stabbed before (non-combat, by accident - I stepped on a fairly large roofing nail) and yes: it's possible to go into shock if you aren't prepared for it - it has nothing to do with fighting and everything to do with basic biology and mental preparedness. 2. That being said, no - I've never been in a knife fight. However, 3 of my instructors have (1 senior instructor + senior student + associated "friend of the school" instructor), and they've all said this. One was the DT (defensive tactics) instructor for our local police department; another was a sherif's deputy for a nearby county, and the final one was a marine who did some work in Desert Storm. And yeah - they all said that getting stabbed/cut can send you into shock. (depending on your adrenaline level - it's entirely possible to not notice you've been stabbed if the adrenaline is high enough.) That being said: none of them have been in "knife fights", but they all have been participants in knife attacks. (2 on the receiving, one on the giving.) With that in mind? Of course what we do in sparring isn't a knife attack - there are underlying principles (distance, rhtymn, timing, etc.) that can apply, but at best what we practice is more akin to dueling than an assault.
@@kevinschultz6091 It doesn't really matter what you warn anybody of. It's like with drowning, your instincts kick in. Your behavior becomes unpredictable from that point on. You won't know until you've actually experienced it. Your thinking never overrides what you actually feel. If our brain was like a computer then instincts are the basic BIOS level stuff or Assembly code, then thinking is the code that comes later with much more overhead. As humans we don't actually even need to think to be able to live. We are animals and do just fine running on our instincts. I don't really buy this big emphasis on thinking. You need to get comfortable with who you are instinctually before you know what to do thinking-wise.
@@avatarion ...yeah, you're completely wrong on that account. Mental preparedness is one of the key points in maintaining control over yourself in a stressful situation. It's also a key element in avoiding shock, as well as mitigating PTSD. There's, like, multiple studies that have demonstrated this. As such, this will be my last response to you, as it's pretty obvious your original post was just an excuse to make yourself sound cool by trying to put someone else down; your follow-up attempt to re-direct to your personal theories confirmed that you REALLY don't know what you're talking about. Good day.
@@kevinschultz6091 I recommend meditating sometime to get a better understanding of "thinking." Thinking is a level above our natural behavior that must is learned as we are growing up. Nobody is born with the ability to speak or to rationalize. No animal in nature does those things besides humans who overcomplicate things with learned behaviors.
My father's old friend who worked in the intelligence agency, also taught me one human grooming, self-soothing behavior when someone decides to make the next move if he smokes, the last move before the move is to place his lips so that the smoke goes down, and when you see that most of the time you have to get ready for the comfrontaishen. It helped me in Uni when I had a conflict with the Uni gang who stole phones, laptops, or other things from new students who did not know anybody yet.
18:15 "You don't know who you're up against." YES. This was one of the things drilled into me by my first TKD instructor. You don't know the level of training that someone else has and you don't know whether they are armed or not. So far, all of the pre attack indicators do not let Jesse know that the other guy has a knife. He may be about to punch him. He may be about to shoot for a double leg takedown. He may be about to pull out a pistol. That is why avoidance and deescelation are the first lines of defense.
Metatron. My guy. You do square up completely in one sort of fighting. That is modern gun fights. This is because, if I am going to fight another armed enemy, i want to put my plate squarely at where the possible gunfire will come from. And I want to compact as much of myself behind the plate. You want to square your arms with the intent of making the most stable platform possible to control the recoil to ensure accurate follow up shots using controlled pairs of shots and the use of a fail safe shot if the enemy is within 21 feet or 7 yards. The reason the fail safe is not used outside of that range unless the guy doesn't go down because the point is to eliminate the immediate threat and then seek any threats in your sectors of fire and then find work in support of your team. If alone, your sector of fire is 180° but changes it's oriention upon changing direction.
I'm mid-40s now, but I did many types of martial arts from a young age. I've been in 2 life or death knife scenarios in my life. I survived both. First one got me 50 stitches and 4 severed tendons on the wrist/arm that I blocked it with. Luckily there was space to escape, but I believe that my martial arts training saved my life because the block was pure muscle memory and protected my face/neck without a doubt. The second was in a crazy pub brawl. My friend had been superficially slashed across the throat with a boxcutter. He got 6 stitches and was mm away from a slashed jugular. I was right beside him and instinctively tackled the bloke with the knife. We rolled around on the ground for a few minutes wrestling for control of the knife. I ended up getting the side of my head and ear slashed - and a few broken ribs from kicks from his mate - but I was very lucky as eventually more people piled on and the knife ended up under a couch. The whole thing was crazy. I believe that in this situation training helped too, but it's always going to be difficult to know when adrenalin kicks in and it's a chaotic life or death struggle. Larping with your mates and plastic knives is not the same as the real thing. 😂There's a lot of survival instinct involved in these situations, but I imagine someone with no experience of extremely violent street situations or keyboard larpers would most likely not survive. Growing up in Dublin in the 1990s I knew quite a few lads who were stabbed. Some survived and some didn't. There's definitely an element of luck/bad luck involved too.
The reality is that often you don't even realize you've been stabbed the first time. You just think you got hit. And yeah, I think no matter how bad ass you think you are, there's a huge element of luck to surviving a knife attack.
this must be the best knife "defence" video currently online at the moment. It gives you a true reality check.... "The more you know how to fight, the more you know that you don´t want to fight because you know what can go wrong" Someone said that, and it is true....
If 1980's movies taught me anything, it is if you wrap your jacket around your non-dominant arm you can use it as a shield in a knife fight. Also, always slowly walk away from an explosion. If you run, you might trigger the explosive's predator/prey instinct.
A lot of kung fu styles use clothes as a shield/distraction. Iin Latinoamerican countries, Gauchos use ponchos in one hand and knife in another in fights.
Also part of the use of a Navaja in Spain. Wrap your coat around your non-dominant hand and the thickness will make it harder to cut your arm, and the hanging skirt can be used to distract your opponent and conceal your attack with your own blade.
don't fully wrap your arm tho. unless your jacket is thick and layered, its gonna pass through it very quickly from a single swipe. what you should do is to use it loosely. much like in Spanish Fencing(Destreza). Knife gets tangled easily in thick clothing when stab/sliced.
@@Medusas_Barber I don't care? The British people aren't even allowed to use knives for the sole purpose of work (mainly farm work). How pathetic is that? Man I'm glad we left you peasants.
Ah yes. I still remember him as "GN" (Gun Noob) from Funker Tactical community. That community eventually fall apart unfortunately and there were some really good guys and some dubious characters. GN was one of the good people that came from there and that seedling crystalized into him making a focus on hand to hand and knife fighting.
You remember Roy Larner of course. Stabbed 8 times by three terrorists before the 3 terrorists ran away. Meanwhile the less combative civilians escapesd; and he survived. But, being a Milwall football hooligan, he would accept no credit for saving lives, but said it was the stupidest thing he had ever done.
Very refreshing, especially after seeing tons people whose sole advice is to "run away". What a profound knowledge, Sherlock, I haven't heard that 1000 times already.
I watched this in the last couple of days...he's the best I've seen. I've taken various martial arts classes years ago, and I've spent a lot of time thinking about self defense, and reading/listening to various experts. He's seriously the only person I've heard talk about the important parts. Everyone else wants to claim you can react and defend yourself barehanded. I told my son I want him to watch these two videos, since he's never had any training at all. He tells me that lately, people are being attacked downtown. It's got to be because very few people are happy about the way things are going, domestically and abroad. Some woman almost decided to run me over at the grocery store, merely because I complained about her blocked the crosswalk with her car. Tempers are flaring all over.
Yeah, I mean if there's any improvised weapon to create spacing that's the best. But if not, then wrestling is pretty much your best bet and it's likely a coin flip. Knives have stuck around for a reason.
In my youth I both avoided and sought confrontation. After growing up and ETSing from the Infantry, I loved the video. Great info, true info that I hope keeps people alive.
I spent nearly 10 years as a use of force instructor in a government service and because we were sometimes in positions where we were forced to deal with edged weapons we used to teach to expect to get cut, but this was for two reasons, firstly as you say to discourage any hero mentality by introducing the truth i.e. you probably will get cut if you choose to engage, but secondly if you're forced to engage and do get cut we didn't want people to shut down with the shock. I would stress though that we always taught to get away or contain if you could so that we could return to the problem with appropriate numbers and PPE if it came to it, but also to attempt suitable de-escalation. I've had to deal with several situations with armed assailants and invariably muscle memory and luck play an enormous part in my still being around to tell the tale.
Been attacked with a knife and used one some time ago in defence. It is super hard especially considering psychologicall factor and surprise factor (not to mention if you are not monitoring you surroundings then ggs). Distance and keen eye on other people hands and how they approach is best advice, saddly most of the time when "good" attack happens then you don't even know it is comming
As a Finn, ”Knife Fights” kind of reminds me of _”Puukkojunkkarit”_ (”Knife Fighters”), who were like the ”cowboys of Finland”, back in the 1800’s Southern Ostrobothnia 🇫🇮😅.
I was attacked with a knife a long time ago, by my mentally ill husband. It all took about a second, but I remember like in slow motion. I was cornered, no where to go. I tried to find a way to get away, and then just froze and got ready to die. What saved me was 2 police officers that were right behind the guy coming for me. One threw himself against the guy, throwing him away from me, then he grabbed me, threw me to the other officer, who caught me, and threw me to safety, and then both of them fought with the guy. That is a long tale short. What it did teach me is to not freeze anymore, but to fight if I have to. Not too long ago there was another guy, a neighbour, that kept saying he was going to kill me, but saying it from a save distance. One day he stood in front of me, saying it again. I got ready to fight, instinctively, and told him to bring it on. He was younger, taller and stronger then me, in a male body, but I had enough of him. (I was a 56 or some year old woman at that time, he was a 28 or some year old guy, I can't call him a man.) I did not back off, and stood like I could easily best him. It confused him, and he backed off. He remained a pain in my butt, but did not say he would kill me anymore. He did make a song though, that he played on his electric guitar, singing it very loud out in his backyard, "Jacky wants to kill me". I'm glad to say he is no longer living here, he somehow disappeared after he bit another neighbourlady till she was bleeding.. I feel bad for the people that he lives next to now.. I've been in a lot of bad situations, and found every situation has it's own best way to handle it. But freezing is like giving up. And you should not go down till you are down. That time when I saw the police go like supermen, changed me. They not only saved me, but they also showed me there is often still a way..
I know 3 people that survived knife attacks, but all three had training dealing with weapons. 1) a recently released Marine officer going to night school in a business suit, trained to use anything as a weapon, used his attaché case to knock the knife out of the hand and followed up against the head with the backswing. 2) A SCA participant specializing aim sword play and had his rattan sword at hand’s reach. No contest. 3) Second SCA member on a NYC subway at 1am tried to tell the mugger to go away. Mugger lunges with knife to strike a mail coat under a cloak. This was followed by mailed fists against the mugger who ran away when the train made the next station.
Before watching: In America, the answer is to carry a firearm and maintain situational awareness. Solution 2 is mind numbing amounts of cardio. Realistically accept that you will be cut and hurt, work to maintain distance, minimize damage, and make noise to get help.
Me: expecting advice on something ill hopefully never encounter. Metatron: reviewing teaching techniques and methods and breaking them down so they make very much sense. Thank you for that little wisdom nugget at about 6:25, aswell as just generaly interesting and informing content!
Pro wrestler here. The "TRUTH" to knife and general self defence in order... 1. Run! 2. Stay away from corners and run when able. 3. Keep your outside in, parrying should only be used in order to break a RUN for it. 4. Awareness beforehand is your best defense(common sense). 5. Freaking Run!
20:59 I really like that you did that, I actually was gonna comment that I feel conflicted about these longer reaction/review videos BTW the best knife defense technique I've ever seen was from the very short book "Put 'Em Down, Take 'Em Out - Knife Fighting from Folsom Prison"
I already watched the original and liked it. So I was worried for a second that this would be a debunking video, because of the title. I'm glad you also liked it and brought a little bit more insight to it with the distance keeping. I would have liked it though, if you would have told a little bit more about what the ancient greeks told about this topic and pre fight indicators.
You're going to end up dead. First of all turning takes time in order to start running. Your enemy already is faster than you by already being toward your direction. Second... You do not know can you actually outrun attacker. Third... Well the thing with knives is... That they can be thrown.
@@TespriDo you have any clue how hard it is to throw a knife accurately, with the point hitting the target? If someone pulls a knife on me and wants my wallet, I'm giving them my wallet. That can be replaced. My life cannot
There are several exceptions to the blading one's body in a martial arts. Both in boxing and escrima you are squared up to your target. Another notable exception is gunfighting. You want to be squared up to the target. This was a change from the Weaver Stance (bladed). The idea being that A. You wear armor, and that armor is most prominent on the front. The other reason is that if you do catch a round going through the side puts more vitals in the path of the bullet.
I am glad to get your point of view on this one. I saw this video the other day and this guy made a lot of sense to me but I also find it very useful to hear what others think on the same subject.
Getting into guard or stance is not just to reduce the area that can be hit by the opponent but loading your stronger hand with potential energy. By moving the hitting hand back you give it more distance to travel and that helps with inertial forces. Most hits like Jabs and weapon slashes have whipping effect. Sometimes pushing. But speed needs to be on the returning stroke of the hand so you can reload fast. And the stance with strong part of the body behind helps with the cnsecutive secon strike with the weak hand that has a stoping and distancing effect.
Damn, i havent noticed guy with a rifle behind them. And then when I saw him i wondered why is there a dude with a gun. Good paper rifleman, looks lifelike.
things like the Bondi Junction attack make me think what would one do seeing it going down, yell he has a knife probably the best first response, obviously run if he approaches, getting the attention of others is most important to save others and getting something inbetween you and the attacker if cornered ie a shopping trolley or piece of furniture, while he is attacking another a chair or something thrown is a possibility if there are other people present (not a good idea if you are isolated) a chair is also a good defensive weapon if you cannot run, it has 4 legs
I did watch this because the algorithm sent me, and now I'm watching it with you and it's just as fun the second time around it was a very powerful demonstration and it's gratifying to see you enjoyed it as well
This was really useful to me. I'd watched the original video but let's just say I know barely enough to save myself from the Dunning-Kruger effect when it comes to fighting. But I can't parse whether an expert is BSing me nearly as well as someone with practical experience. I'm glad to hear that my take on the original video seems to be a reasonable one. Thank you!
You have to be trained in that kind of combat. Well it's certainly better if you are. My father was a US Marine in WW2 and the first action he was in was at an atoll named Roi-Namur in the Marshall Islands. When clearing some of the larger islands, ones big enough to have a garrison, my father had a knife fight with a Japanese NCO that he was fortunate enough to prevail in. When he got back to the USA after the war (he was then 21 years old) a few teenagers in the Bronx attempted to rob him and he took the knife off the kid and broke his arm. With him a kid with a knife didn't scare him too much. Another time he was confronted by two guys each with a handgun and he just turned over his money. He said that's a whole different story. If you're a Marine or soldier combat veteran or your trained to deal with a knife attack then you do what you have to do if you feel it have do it.
You tube recommended this video to me, and I ignored it thinking it was just another bad self defense video. Thanks Raph for sharing, and I'll go watch the whole thing now.
How to tell the difference between the loser and the winner in a knife fight: the loser dies there on the scene, and the winner dies later on in the hospital.
What brought it home for me is the current 'Ultimate Self Defence Championship' (which inc. Jesse Enkamp) thing with the various martial artists in mock scenarios inc people with fake knives that mark with ink/paint if they make contact. Every person who went anywhere near a knife-wielder was immediately covered in marks that would be at least cuts.
6:08 thank you for putting this amendment in at the end. i had a teacher who used this methodology but reacted in the ways you said while also being very rigid about "figure it out yourself" and it honestly made me hate learning from him, as well as the subject he was attempting to teach.
Here is a list of injuries I got either from being jumped by people with knives or getting into knife fights 3 stab wounds that blade hit bone, multiple superficial cuts, quite a few cuts that didn't need stitches or liquid stitches but drew blood, forehead cut that needed several applications of liquid stitches, poiner finger on left hand nearly severed the tip just barely missing the tendon and a few cuts so deep I actually wanted to go to a doctor to get stitches because I was still bleeding after multiple different treatments and multiple fresh bandages if at all avoidable do that because I am pretty certain that I shortened my life tremendously
Even the mediaeval Masters stated that you were likely to get cut in a knife fight, and to avoid a knife fight if possible. And then went on to say things like, "Better a small cut than a big hole." And showed ways to deal with knife fights in the context of their time and societies.
ALWAYS remember the 21 foot rule.If theyre within 21 foot, you are in the danger zone. First rule if youre involved with a knife scenario, even if you have a firearm. RUN if possible. If theres absolutely no way out, then defend yourself at all cost.
The 21 foot rule is only applicable if you stand completely still while drawing. If you backpedal quickly as you draw then that gives you significantly more time to lay down shots. If you have a gun, then don’t take the gamble that you’re going to be a faster runner than the attacker. Also the rest of us will thank you for taking someone that dangerous off the streets permanently.
That's 21 feet, if you're prepared for the attack. If you're not, if you're just minding your own business and not really paying attention (as most of us are), then there is no safe distance.
21 feet is assuming a lot of variables. Some weapons are easier and faster to deploy (due to holster systems and laws, firearms can actually be rather slow to deploy), confined spaces, how fast the assailant is approaching you, defendant situational awareness and reaction speed.
I said it before, but it's worth repeating: Jesse made some amazing historical videos about the origins of Karate. One about south-east influences, one about french influences ans, by far the most amazing, about the original chinese origins. For this one, he visits the south of China. th-cam.com/video/UCvimTuwkZY/w-d-xo.html
I had a knife pulled on me once. It centered me similar to an inevitable car crash but a lot less. In a car crash you get sort of an out of body experience and view your body do everything exactly right. When someone pulls a knife. It's more like you are meditating waiting for the opening to counter his attack. He never actually attacked. Backed down after a friend showed up and wanted to get the fight started.
Police here have the 21 ft rule. If an assailant is 21 ft or closer even with a knife, they can reach you before you draw your firearm or any weapon for that matter, so it is best to always keep your senses sharp and seek a crowded public space because they'll be less likely to attack there. However, knowing self-defense and how to disarm an assailant is very important in such scenarios. Edit: as someone who has been stabbed before, twice with a knife and other timed with pencils or arrows from a bow. You aren't always ready if you don't know the signs, crowded spaces, witnesses and or places of refuge are usually the best way to avoid that.
In wrestling it's almost always the case that you want both of your hips to be directed towards your opponent. If you're bladed then that makes your lead leg difficult to defend from a single leg.
In any fight that someone brings to you or that you decide to enter, expect it to be a fight with a knife. Whether you’re striking, clinching or on the ground, fight as if he/she will draw a blade. Don’t assume that a fist fight won’t turn into a knife fight. If you go into grappling range/clinch and know what you’re doing, avoid staying on the inside, monitor and tie up his dominant hand. Don’t become over reliant on positions where you lose sight of his hands like front headlocks, guillotines. Fight as if he is trying to access a weapon, probably from his waistline, and you will raise your chances of stopping or intercepting a draw.
I saw this guy in a TH-cam martial artist show where people in various disciplines competed in challenges. It was very entertaining and he was fun to watch. And of course his friendship with his mentor and idol Grandmaster Ken is the cherry on top.
One of the only times I can think of where it’s best to square up to an attacker is if you’re wearing body armor. Especially hard armor; but other than that, yeah… Mostly adding this for your algorithm, but it’s also a thought I had.
I would also imagine that the statement you will get cut or stabbed if you engage in a knife fight would also to advice a fighter to engage if they have to. Being overly defensive in a knife fight would probably mean you are going to lose especially if you aren't very well trained.
Nothing shatters the illusion of being a tough guy faster than the sudden, sharp sting of a blade, followed by the sight of your lifeblood rhythmically spilling away. As lightheadedness and a tingling numbness creep in, the reality of how fragile you truly are becomes undeniable... and then you're gone forever.
Nothing shatters the illusion of being a tough guy than the sudden realization that you’ve thrown your life away and now must spend your remaining days in a cold hard cell, showering with men, and eating slop until you eventually die. I’m not sure what you’re trying to say with this comment, but it’s clear that you need help psychologically.
@@keeferChiefer What I'm trying to say is: If someone attacks you with a knife: Don't be stupid-run if you can. No matter how "tough," fit, and well-trained you are (or think you are), I sure would, if it were at all possible. But thank you for being concerned over my mental health, which is fine, I assure you.
It’s important to notice the signs as he said and then attack instead of waiting to be attacked…been in that situation once…i noticed guy touching his pocket when he was making threats…saw puukko handle…
Running away of course only works if you can. Overweight, age and infirmity will render a quick escape impossible. Then if verbal deescalation fails…you are going to be attacked, and knowing that you better work out how to inflict serious damage real quick. Fortunately most knife attackers are untrained kids, but they may be quick and have done it before. In the US gun ownership can level the playing field between attacker and victim, BUT only assuming you are not being stopped at gun point first. The one saving grace of a knife attack is they have to be toe to toe to be a serious threat.
Had my throat slit when I was 15, didn't see the knife, Thought he threw a punch and missed. Didn't feel the second knife go into my chest either. It wasn't until a girls screams registered that I knew something real bad was happening. I tried to get the hell out of there and got stabbed through my back into my lung, and then another strike across my back and through my armpit.
I survived a knife attack. Imo its primal, the will to live, that forms the basis of survival. I was banged up afterward, micro surgery on my index and middle fingers, stitches in hip and leg, rehab. I'm not discounting training importance but i think you got to prepared to go all the way.
the logic of ANY FIGHT is the one who is attacking you, knows he is attacking you so he is ready but although you know it's coming you are still always fraction of seconds behind the first move.
I watched this Vid on Jesse's Channel. It's one of the Best Martial Arts Instructor Vids I've ever come across. It's also similar to how I process matters in Fighting anf the Martial Arts.
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Its time you got 6'' off your hair my man, it would look much better. Outside of that really good reaction to the video, you spend a lot of time debunking so its great to see you give credit to people who are being reasonable also.
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You should watch Martial Arts Journey with Rokas's Ultimate Self Defense Championship season 1 and 2 its pretty fun, but on the subject of knife defense you do see some disarms in some events. The results of the shank tank event in season1 vs season 2 is very illuminating as well.
You should watch Martial Arts Journey with Rokas's Ultimate Self Defense Championship season 1 and 2 its pretty fun, but on the subject of knife defense you do see some disarms in some events. The results of the shank tank event in season1 vs season 2 is very illuminating as well.
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I liked this guy, he didn't say "Knife fight" he generally said Knife attack. This is a recognition that knife fights almost never happen, as that means two people recognize that each other has a knife and they both decide they want to keep going. Most incidents with a knife is one guy pulling a knife and attacking the unarmed person.
There was an actual knife fight between 2 men in my current city of residence, Toronto, just this week.
Witnessed by a few people.
One of them is going to prison, the other is going in the ground.
"Most incidents with a knife is one guy pulling a knife and attacking the unarmed person." fixed that for you, seeing as to how prevalent knife fights are in countries other than America.
@@CrypidLore yeah because knife is easier to hide. I’m more scared of knives than guns. I’ve seen a ground of people at a train station in Asia just bump into someone in a busy station and the guy they bumped into just dropped bleeding. People didn’t realize until the guy have already moved away.
There’s usually no sound at all too.
Unlike with a gun, you can always see a guy pulling something, even silencers don’t fully “silence” a gunshot, it’s still noticeable if you’ve heard gunshots before. It’s hard to mistake gunshots for something else.
"knife fights never happen" LMAO
@@hirotakasugi4891 A knife isn't that much easier to hide, and frankly in America a $5 knife isn't much cheaper than a $20 handgun you buy on the streets.
One thing that terrified me when we trained this in my dojo was that I didn't even notice some of the knife hits. Our teachers had us wear white shirts and the other guy armed with pens, and people regularly wound up with more marks than they thought.
Another thing was that they had several plastic knifes stored throughout the dojo and sometimes, while we were practicing, the teacher would discreetly pull out a knife and see how many students he could stab before the first one reacted. He could regularly go through like 8 people.
Knifes are scary.
The other thing that is scary about knife fights is the mortality rate. You don't instantly go down when the blade touches you. You die in an ambulance 25 minutes later, or in the surgery 3 hours later.
In the Old School days of the late 80’s and through the 90’s, my dojo (formerly a Tang Soo Do school that did several clinics with other styles) had an instructor that liked to do different things. Regularly was knife fighting. Dad grew up in Brooklyn in the 60’s as the only white guy in the area. Taught me how to handle a knife when I was a kid. I was just a Green Belt with a Brazilian guy also Green. We were spending the evening taking out the Black Belts to the amusement of the instructor, a Jamaican guy that was truly spectacular. The knives were rubber and left clear black slash marks on the white Gi. Well the Brazilian guy and I had to go at it sometime, and I will not forget squaring off against him and knowing I was dealing with a peer that had a dad like mine. There was no more fooling around, and the fight was intense and after a few rounds, neither of us could get away without some serious damage. That never left me. Making it real was important.
as a viking reenactor we did that as well, the knife hit were so fast much more difficult to notice combat to sword hits, generally bare chest, an activity at feasts especially....the girls didnt normally take part tho...
You can't always run away. I was in a knife attack, unarmed, and there was no chance to run away, he and I were nose to nose arguing when the knife was in his hand before I knew what was happening, if I had turned to run I'd have been stabbed before I could have gotten more than a couple steps. I put what happened below if anyone is interested.
Ironically being so close to him when it started, and him not being a trained knife fighter (I've had zero knife training of any kind, some boxing but that's it), is what I think saved my life. He pulled his arm way back and came in a hook motion, not a straight thrust, so I had time to react and I stepped in even closer to him (why? no idea, I think I tried to grab his wrist) so he over shot my side, his forearm ended up hitting my ribs and not the knife, and I clamped my left arm down on his right arm in like headlock kind of hold and squeezed as hard as could (this was a huge f*cking knife btw, probably 12 inch blade or more, like a small machete). I started punching him repeatedly in the face as we were locked together and by this time my cousins came out of the house and got the knife out of his hand, the knife had a broken grip at the end, the exposed tang did cut/scrape my side up as he was wiggling the knife around trying to get his arm free. The whole thing took less than 10 seconds.
Also this started right outside my aunts house and there were little kids, like in diapers age, in the yard playing, oblivious to what was happening, yet another reason you can't always run away from a fight, you might be with people you can't leave undefended.
It was 100% preventable, you got on an argument nose to nose, you rose that tension by escalating
@@legendaryoutcast4440 Don't act like getting the knife out in public and trying to stab someone is normal, it's not.
So you enter the "lucky" category. Congrats on how you handled ! But still it cannot be an extrapolated situation, this could have gone wrong in so many ways.
@@legendaryoutcast4440 It is better to be dead than alive AND pathetically useless.
@@Cancoillotteman i think the idea there was even if he did have a chance to run away, maybe getting stabbed would have been better at that point as it means the stabber would have been more likely to flee the scene...
or not.
op didn't exactly make it to be a common scenario or one you want to get into, quite the opposite.
That "anxious checking on your weapon" also happens when you first start carrying a gun in public. It's like you think everyone cares or sees it and you always want to make sure it's secure. It goes away pretty quickly, but it's super common
When i started carrying i checked my stuff all the time. I never do anymore
@@Jezus42Same here, now I just do a drawing drill in the morning with whatever clothes I'm wearing that takes about 10 min then forget about it. My pocket holstered LCP2 has gone through the washer more than once!
As long as it goes away and not off, you're alright ! X)
@KWW0321 I still on occasion do draw drills, but like checking my stuff I don't do that much anymore. I should really practice more.
@@KWW0321you need to establish a ridged routine. Like you come home, hang up your keys, unload, and put your pistol in its nighttime home.
Dedicated lifelong martial artist here (Wrestling, Judo, Muay Thai, Eskrima/FMA, and currently HEMA and Buhurt). I also spent around 14 years working as a bouncer on the weekends at about a dozen different bars & clubs in the St Louis & East St Louis area. Im 44 years old..going to be 45 soon..and after 30+ years of martial arts training, and a whole lot of real world experience, id have to say that knives, and bladed weapons in general, are some of the scariest and most dangerous things that a person can face in any real world self defense situation. I can also say that over the years, the more ive learned, the more experience ive gained, the more willing i am to actually go out of my way to avoid fighting anyone, for any reason. I am by no means a small guy (6'4" 235-240lbs) and have a wealth of knowledge and experience when it comes to physical violence. I carry a concealed 9mm pistol with me everywhere i go (which i also train with regularly. And YES, shooting absolutely IS very much a "martial art", and every bit as much of a martial art as any other martial art there is) along with a fixed blade knife, and a pair of brassknuckles (completely legal in my state) But I will absolutely tuck tail and RUN AWAY from an altercation, if i can, and if i think that will avoid said altercation devolving into physical violence. I think that for those of us who have been training for long enough, and have enough experience, we have a better and more heightened understanding how truly dangerous fighting actually is. For me personally, it feels like the more i learn, and the more knowledge that i have on how to easily incapacitate or even kill someone, gives me an even greater awareness of how easily I can also be incapacitated or killed. I dont feel as tho I'm doing a very good job articulating my point here, but i think that other martial artists of a certain skill and experience level can relate to what im trying to convey. Anyway, this was a great video, and i thoroughly enjoyed watching it. This guy seems like he really knows what hes doing, and is an excellent instructor/teacher/coach. Best wishes to all who read this, and be safe everyone!!!
I think you got your point across fine.
G'day,
What you said is indeed all true, and the way to boil it down to the essence is...,
" When you agree to fight...,
You have agreed to
Die, unless you spend the rest of your life as a Human Vegetable...;
Because, your Opponent
May
WIN -
And that is the Contract
Into which
EVERY Fighter is buying -
EVERY time that they agree to
Fight.
Such is life,
Live a good one...
Stay safe.
;-p
Ciao !
So what I am hearing is that our fighting ability dramatically outpaces our actual ability to take punishment.
Thanks for the comment from someone who has loads of experience, as I myself have none.
100% right. There is nothing to prove.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Stay save!
I trained in martial arts for decades. In Lau Gar Kung Fu, we had defence against knife attack as part of the syllabus. I remember my teacher telling us ' if someone pulls a knife on you in the street and you can run, that is the time to do so.'
Very unhelpful. Might as well just tell everyone to pray instead of learning to throw a punch. "No point. Can't defend against a punch."
Was your instructor Steve Spain by any chance?
@@JDoe-gf5oz You're stupid to the point of being retarded.
@@JDoe-gf5oz Shut up dork. Show us how to kung fu your way around a knife.
@@JDoe-gf5oz No, if someone cocks back to punch you on the street, the best course of action is usually to run. Avoid unnecessary physical engagements. Bad things CAN happen.
My philosophy behind this is to be armed. The knife attacker has confidence in his ability to attack you because he's armed, but the moment he knows you're also armed, his self-preservation instinct will kick in. This increases your odds of survival. Luckily, Tennessee doesn't have a blade length law, so move here and buy a sword.
Edit: The sword comment was not serious guys of course I'm not going to walk around in public with a sword for self defense..
Unfortunately, what you've said is also untrue. Yes, his self preservation instincts may kick in but if he wants to rob you and is prepared to kill you if you don't hand over your wallet, if he has a firearm rather than a knife, he may decide to take you down then search what's left of you without giving you the option of survival.
@daviddavies3637 I should clarify. Your defense should be proportional to that of your attacker. Obviously, if you can carry a firearm, do that.
@@Talos_The_King I do, but there still are situations where having a knife could be good. Gun, or sword, is still slower in some scenarios...
@@daviddavies3637 Not exactly. Most muggings and robberies are not to the death. If you pull out a knife on the suspect in question, armed with a knife or not, they will run 9/10 of the time.
We see this all the time in cases and videos of victims pulling out weapons on the criminal, and they immediately book it, even if they have weapons themselves.
It’s a natural instinct to not want to be harmed or die. Predators avoid fights with things that fight back to avoid death. Humans avoid fights if it risks death. This is a natural instinct any normal person experiences. It’s also why smaller and more vulnerable people are victims of crime. The criminal needs to feel confident that the victim won’t fight back or have a chance to.
So the original commenter is 100% correct. And I don’t mean to be pedantic, but bringing up a firearm is a straw man. It’s an entirely different amount of proportional force, but even then, your attacker will be deterred if you are equivalent; your attacker may be more confident if they have distance and a firearm and you only have a knife, but if you both have a firearm and you fire, 9/10 of the time, they will flee.
@@Tkoutlosh The sword comment was mostly a joke.
Paulo Rubio is legit. You should see his collab videos with instructor Zero on knife vs gun.
Been a sub of his for a long time. Stand up guy.
Instructor zero is not legit at all. He's a barkeeper who can shoot, not some SF god.
@@DisdainusMaximus A barkeeper? Really?
Since late medieval age/ Renaissance books/ Scripts/ treatisisices about defence against knife/ dagger defence, unarmed, with dagger or other weapons/ items exist. From all kind of people, fencing masters, martial artists, officers/ policemen and even german Renaissance artist Albrecht Dürer, a superstar in his time. 500 years later, no solution for the problem exists, says all.
Medieval daggers attacks are quite different from modern knives attacks: they are more powerful/charged and slower because the enemy was considered with a bit of protection; they also are only stabs and not cuts (from what I've seen).
Unarmed against dagger exists in medieval fencing treatises and "you will get cut" is first seen in one of those.
Those techniques (barely) work when the dagger is used as intended, but as soon as it's used as a modern knife (a series of quick and light stabs and cuts) it becomes impossibile to defend against.
@@Mr_Yod Medieval knight fights were probably slower due to blade length. most knife fights today are done with short knives that have a very quick stab. most medieval daggers are quite a bit longer as they were multi-use tools or in some fencing styles a secondary weapon.
Also, stabs are key because they're harder to block, more damaging, faster to perform, and easier to use from all positions. cuts need space, wind up, etc. draw cuts and push cuts are common though, such as when your knife hand is grabbed by the wrist, you can push cut the opponents wrist.
@itshunni8346 Yes: daggers' blades are as long as a forearm, wielding it point down the tip reaches the elbow (keeping it like that, with the blade attached to the forearm is used in a ridiculous dagger vs long sword defense); that length allows to reach the heart from almost any part of the chest.
But nothing stops you from using a dagger as fast as a modern knife (maybe a bit slower, but not that much), with quick stabs.
A lot of this is stuff we learn in law enforcement training. People will swing their arms, bounce on the balls of their feet, look around, and even take their shirts off. If we see indicators like this, people are often preparing to fight us or try to run.
This guy's good. I like him.
Former infantryman here. We don't say "you WILL get cut in a knife fight" as a defeatist mentality. We say it to prepare the individual for the shock and pain of a knife attack so they know they have to push through the pain. It's to prepare them for the very likely scenario that they will get cut. If you keep it in your mind that you're going to get cut, you're more likely to either avoid the knife fight altogether, or use a more effective strategy, such as using a longer weapon or firearm. It's not a defeatist mentality. It's to prepare you for shock and pain. Then again, infantrymen have a much different mindset from civilians. We've accepted that we may die. And most of us are prepared for it. So, maybe that's where the disconnect is in my statement.
I wasn't infantry but the messge was still conveyed that accepting that a wound will occur reduced the fear of that wound, which promotes action both during and after that wound. I haven't been in a knife fight but this mindset of not freezing does help one survive. That and having good reflexes that act in conjunction with body mechanics. I had a number of surprise training incidents (from before military service) where i thought a real knife had been pulled and I treated as such.
Also removing the knife from play seemed to be the best option. The attacker seems to favor focusing on the weapon so if one does get control of the knife, might be best to toss it out of reach (except in combat context, rules of engagement of course). If the attacker has one knife, as soon as they lose it they'll pull out their second and third till they lose confidence. Focusing on the single knife risks failing to recognize the fluidity of the situation.
about the teacher's thing when I was a teenager I heard a phrase that really stuck with me that says: A teacher can share his experience and techniques but NEVER the result, that's for you to figure out.
16:04 reminded me of when my traditional FMA teacher made the same point while he was teaching me and my friends (paraphrased from Tagalog into English):
"Remember that you are training not to show off and get into fights, you are training to develop and discipline yourself, to fix your attitude and be humble. You have done the techniques a hundred times in a controlled environment, do it outside one time and if you are lucky it will work, if not, you are dead. Here's the thing, martial art is a discipline. If you get into a fight and engage instead of getting yourself out of it, tell me, did you really learn anything? Where is the discipline?"
This was after we got into trouble and had a brawl on the streets with kids from another baranggay. He was disappointed af with us and what he said stuck ever since.
"we got into trouble and had a brawl on the streets with kids from another baranggay"
So the Karate Kid TV series is basically real life in the Philippines
Those are the moments we live for in history; when you can span the ages and connect with those people far in the past. As someone who has been in several fights, I can confirm, like the Greeks, I stroke my goatee, I looked away, I took my rings off, etc. Then to think of the Scythians or the Spartans undergoing those same subconscious routines is truly fascinating.
Do you think you could get in a fistfight and never get punched? Literally dodge or block or push all punches away from you? I don't.
I could, I'm just built different.
there are two types of people who come out of knife fights.
those who die on the spot
and those who die in the ambulance.
@@thethirdsicily4802 🧢
I have done that but only against complete beginners...
that being said defending against a knife attack is completely different, you can't block it with your body, and even a light touch from it will cut you so they don't need to put strength into it and can focus on speed and try to cut you and poke you as much as possible. It's just super hard to defend against weapons when you are unarmed, the best defense would be to be aware of your surroundings and carry a gun.
@@nickvanachthoven7252 Pretty close.
Metatron, your channel is such a refreshing thing to see on the internet in this day and age. Even from the small things that you do, like cutting a video short to incentivize people to watch the original. It really shows how much you value your integrity.
Thanks! Still trying to figure out what the best way to make react content is. Up to know what I have is don’t use all the video, mention the creator properly, put the link to the original video in the description and pinned comment, make it very transformative adding a lot of commentary.
I watched a video of a guy watching a video of self defense against a bladed weapon. I'm now an impervious expert. Nay, a master. Strike two. I'm a self defense legend.
I remember years ago you did that OG video on this and I vehemently disagreed with your take. Called it cowardly.
.......then I did research, rapidly learned that I was the fool.
Wasn't his take that you should always run away and was insistent that its always an option because it isn't. Sometimes running is in fact not possible in which case your best bet is to ramp up the aggression to hopefully disable the attacker before they can kill you.
The "You're going to get cut in a knife fight" thing. Paulo trains special forces people. They are going to get into fights. I also know a guy who trained his fellow Marine Raiders in knife fighting among other combatives. It absolutely is about understanding it's going to happen and not letting the shock of it happening put you at a disadvantage.
Otherwise, great video! I'd already watched that particular video, but it's cool to see your take on it.
That statement is good for both the casual person wanting to train if knife all the way to the special forces. For the casual person they need to know that they will get cut so they are deterred from going into that knife fight. For special forces they need to not worry about getting cut so they can fight through it.
Absolutely. Conflict is best avoided if at all possible. Knowing how to deal with unavoidable conflict is pretty snazzy too though!
Being trained in martial arts and weapons martial arts. I will share the best defense against every weapon you will run into on the streets. Don't be there. Yes, run and don't become a target. There is no shame in running away. It's when you have no other option is when you defend yourself.
This right here. I'm trained in various martial arts and combat training from the military. Granted, it's hard to always keep yourself from danger, but not being there is the biggest defense
Best way to avoid punch: no be there
@@soulknife20 Isn't that a major training item with the Armored infantry. 1st: Don't be there. 2nd: Don't be detected. 3rd: Don't be targeted. 4th: Don't be hit. 5th: Don't have your armor defeated.
We can never control all of these all of the time, but the total system together is important.
Don't be in the 'hood. Don't be seen in the 'hood. Don't get selected by a thug....
unfortunately it only works if you can run faster than the attacker, or the knive wasn't meant to be drawn initially/use for threats only.
Not so much with attacker already willing to kill and making sure the victim can't run, usually indoor, with someone who they deem libalility, closed off etc. and rarely, a person you personally know suddenly draws a knife on you because they wrote it on their quasi manifesto.
Paulo Rubio is legit.
You can't always run away as Icy Mike often goes over. Sometimes you're closed in, what happens when the person can outrun you? If the person is faster than you running won't amount to much huh? The best thing you can do is up the ante and get a weapon, a bottle, a chair, whatever you can get to the advantage.
Don't be there if you can, get out of there if you can, grab your own weapon if you can, and any combo of these.
Thats just fma. Grab anything you can use to make a weapon. A stick, a brush or even a bag something to hit ur opponent.
I've always said it's better to run from a knife if possible rather than stand and fight. After seeing someone stabbed once in the chest and killed in front of me by someone absolutely unskilled with weapons and almost a foot shorter than the man she killed, I stand by this statement even more. Unlike a gun a bladed weapon is always dangerous regardless of the skill of the user and never needs ammunition.
Its harder to heal aswell.
I mean, if you're close enough to use a knife and you have a gun...anyone can cause deadly damage with a gun too no matter their skill. Once you start increasing the distance though, then yeah...skill starts to be more of a real factor with a gun; then again, most criminals tend to use these weapons up close with their victims, so the point is kinda moot I think...it's really only with gun battles with police that they become very much disadvantaged as oftentimes the distances are relatively far and police are typically much more skilled in firearms than the average criminal
Running is only an option if you're faster than the other person. Your odds are better arming yourself with literally anything.
@ChristoffRevan Although I understand your point, it's really only a surface level analysis of the situation that makes some assumptions about a firearms effectiveness and ease of use.
@maxgehtdnixan4913 If there's something available to defend yourself with I agree. I personally believe everyone should be equipped to defend their lives at all times. That's also why staying in good physical condition is extremely important as well, if you need to fight you have the strength, if you need to run you have the endurance. Preparation is the key to surviving everything.
The loser of a knife fight dies in an alley. The winner dies in the ambulance.
Came to the comments to post essentially the same thing. "One person dies on the sidewalk, the other on the way to the hospital."
At least both of them are armed. The expert in the video is teaching people to beat knife guys unarmed.
Interesting what he said about how it's important to laugh and override the fight instinct after. I am familiar with this when it comes to dogs - I have two dogs with plenty of chance to watch them play, and this is also one of the things to look for if you're not sure whether the dogs are (still) playing or fighting for real/one bullying the other. A play fight includes a lot of short pauses and frequent role-switching, which communicates the other dog that it's only a game, like "we still good bro". I never realized it works for humans too.
BTW, I'd suggest reworking the title. Currently, it gives the impression you'll be debunking the video you're reviewing.
yeah because knife is easier to hide. I’m more scared of knives than guns. I’ve seen a ground of people at a train station in Asia just bump into someone in a busy station and the guy they bumped into just dropped bleeding. People didn’t realize until the guy have already moved away.
There’s usually no sound at all too.
Unlike with a gun, you can always see a guy pulling something, even silencers don’t fully “silence” a gunshot, it’s still noticeable if you’ve heard gunshots before. It’s hard to mistake gunshots for something else.
It’s also easier to create stabbing implements.
As someone who’s pretty fast, I don’t see knives as much of a threat. But it doesn’t matter how fast you are if someone has a gun, you’ll never outrun bullets. So in my eyes a gun is infinitely more dangerous than a knife
@keeferChiefer you can only run if you can see it. If you’re in a crowded place someone bumping into you is a perfect vehicle for a stab.
Knives are scarier because you can never see it if it’s not some random encounter.
Even with mass pewpewer, you can see when someone has the weapon. The same way bombs scare me more than guns.
The unseen threats are what you should be afraid of not the common one that you can easily avoid or even fight against easily.
@ but it’s okay. It’s fine to be sheltered like you. I’m glad you haven’t had to witness someone just dropping dead bleeding in a crowd of people :) or someone stepping on the ground and becoming meat rain
@@keeferChiefer
Do you think it's that easy to hit a target with a gun?
It's pretty easy to run far enough away that someone with a pistol will have a hard time hitting you. Meanwhile at close quarters it's possible to force a firearm away from your body so they can't shoot you (though may shoot people behind you) while a blade is far more difficult because everything you have to push against is sharp.
@@keeferChiefer Makes sense...if you're in a videogame.
Speaking as someone who teaches knife fighting (I've been doing Escrima/Arnis for close to 20 years now), when we say "you will (probably) get cut", it's mainly to address the shock. We do regular knife sparring (with "beepy knives", or plastic knives that light up and make a beeping noise when you hit with them), and the near-inevitability of getting hit, even if you "win", is apparent fairly quickly.
Note that for anyone who is interested in knife sparring, I can't recommend those knives enough - we've tried sparring with the hard rubber ones, and felt-tip pens, or chalked foam knives, and these ones (called "AkuStrike" blades) really do work really well.
(I'm shilling for them mainly because I've seen other schools teach "knife defense", and it very obviously wouldn't work - these types of blades allow you to pressure-test a lot more than the other versions do. I do recommend that folks remove the metal clip, though, as we've found that in sparring there is a tendency to clash, and the metal edges can dig into folk's hands and arms.)
It doesn't matter what you say. There's thinking and then there's instincts. Unless you've been poked you won't know for sure. Knife experts who haven't been in actual fights probably don't know what they are talking about. I wouldn't believe a boxing trainer who hasn't fought either.
@@avatarion - two points:
1. it was Metatron that was claiming that the reason instructors say "you're going to get cut" is ACTUALLY in order to dissuade people from getting into knife fights. My evidence is that at least in my case, we say it in order to warn people about the shock.
Regardless of whether or not I've been in a knife fight, I have been cut and stabbed before (non-combat, by accident - I stepped on a fairly large roofing nail) and yes: it's possible to go into shock if you aren't prepared for it - it has nothing to do with fighting and everything to do with basic biology and mental preparedness.
2. That being said, no - I've never been in a knife fight. However, 3 of my instructors have (1 senior instructor + senior student + associated "friend of the school" instructor), and they've all said this.
One was the DT (defensive tactics) instructor for our local police department; another was a sherif's deputy for a nearby county, and the final one was a marine who did some work in Desert Storm.
And yeah - they all said that getting stabbed/cut can send you into shock. (depending on your adrenaline level - it's entirely possible to not notice you've been stabbed if the adrenaline is high enough.)
That being said: none of them have been in "knife fights", but they all have been participants in knife attacks. (2 on the receiving, one on the giving.)
With that in mind? Of course what we do in sparring isn't a knife attack - there are underlying principles (distance, rhtymn, timing, etc.) that can apply, but at best what we practice is more akin to dueling than an assault.
@@kevinschultz6091 It doesn't really matter what you warn anybody of. It's like with drowning, your instincts kick in. Your behavior becomes unpredictable from that point on. You won't know until you've actually experienced it. Your thinking never overrides what you actually feel. If our brain was like a computer then instincts are the basic BIOS level stuff or Assembly code, then thinking is the code that comes later with much more overhead. As humans we don't actually even need to think to be able to live. We are animals and do just fine running on our instincts. I don't really buy this big emphasis on thinking. You need to get comfortable with who you are instinctually before you know what to do thinking-wise.
@@avatarion ...yeah, you're completely wrong on that account. Mental preparedness is one of the key points in maintaining control over yourself in a stressful situation. It's also a key element in avoiding shock, as well as mitigating PTSD.
There's, like, multiple studies that have demonstrated this.
As such, this will be my last response to you, as it's pretty obvious your original post was just an excuse to make yourself sound cool by trying to put someone else down; your follow-up attempt to re-direct to your personal theories confirmed that you REALLY don't know what you're talking about.
Good day.
@@kevinschultz6091 I recommend meditating sometime to get a better understanding of "thinking." Thinking is a level above our natural behavior that must is learned as we are growing up. Nobody is born with the ability to speak or to rationalize. No animal in nature does those things besides humans who overcomplicate things with learned behaviors.
My father's old friend who worked in the intelligence agency, also taught me one human grooming, self-soothing behavior when someone decides to make the next move if he smokes, the last move before the move is to place his lips so that the smoke goes down, and when you see that most of the time you have to get ready for the comfrontaishen.
It helped me in Uni when I had a conflict with the Uni gang who stole phones, laptops, or other things from new students who did not know anybody yet.
18:15 "You don't know who you're up against." YES. This was one of the things drilled into me by my first TKD instructor. You don't know the level of training that someone else has and you don't know whether they are armed or not. So far, all of the pre attack indicators do not let Jesse know that the other guy has a knife. He may be about to punch him. He may be about to shoot for a double leg takedown. He may be about to pull out a pistol. That is why avoidance and deescelation are the first lines of defense.
Metatron. My guy. You do square up completely in one sort of fighting.
That is modern gun fights. This is because, if I am going to fight another armed enemy, i want to put my plate squarely at where the possible gunfire will come from. And I want to compact as much of myself behind the plate. You want to square your arms with the intent of making the most stable platform possible to control the recoil to ensure accurate follow up shots using controlled pairs of shots and the use of a fail safe shot if the enemy is within 21 feet or 7 yards. The reason the fail safe is not used outside of that range unless the guy doesn't go down because the point is to eliminate the immediate threat and then seek any threats in your sectors of fire and then find work in support of your team. If alone, your sector of fire is 180° but changes it's oriention upon changing direction.
hence krav maga has those strange body movements and why it doesn't work for small skinny people: plate carriers.
I'm mid-40s now, but I did many types of martial arts from a young age. I've been in 2 life or death knife scenarios in my life. I survived both. First one got me 50 stitches and 4 severed tendons on the wrist/arm that I blocked it with. Luckily there was space to escape, but I believe that my martial arts training saved my life because the block was pure muscle memory and protected my face/neck without a doubt.
The second was in a crazy pub brawl. My friend had been superficially slashed across the throat with a boxcutter. He got 6 stitches and was mm away from a slashed jugular. I was right beside him and instinctively tackled the bloke with the knife. We rolled around on the ground for a few minutes wrestling for control of the knife. I ended up getting the side of my head and ear slashed - and a few broken ribs from kicks from his mate - but I was very lucky as eventually more people piled on and the knife ended up under a couch. The whole thing was crazy.
I believe that in this situation training helped too, but it's always going to be difficult to know when adrenalin kicks in and it's a chaotic life or death struggle. Larping with your mates and plastic knives is not the same as the real thing. 😂There's a lot of survival instinct involved in these situations, but I imagine someone with no experience of extremely violent street situations or keyboard larpers would most likely not survive.
Growing up in Dublin in the 1990s I knew quite a few lads who were stabbed. Some survived and some didn't. There's definitely an element of luck/bad luck involved too.
The reality is that often you don't even realize you've been stabbed the first time. You just think you got hit. And yeah, I think no matter how bad ass you think you are, there's a huge element of luck to surviving a knife attack.
this must be the best knife "defence" video currently online at the moment. It gives you a true reality check....
"The more you know how to fight, the more you know that you don´t want to fight because you know what can go wrong"
Someone said that, and it is true....
If 1980's movies taught me anything, it is if you wrap your jacket around your non-dominant arm you can use it as a shield in a knife fight.
Also, always slowly walk away from an explosion. If you run, you might trigger the explosive's predator/prey instinct.
A lot of kung fu styles use clothes as a shield/distraction.
Iin Latinoamerican countries, Gauchos use ponchos in one hand and knife in another in fights.
Also part of the use of a Navaja in Spain. Wrap your coat around your non-dominant hand and the thickness will make it harder to cut your arm, and the hanging skirt can be used to distract your opponent and conceal your attack with your own blade.
don't fully wrap your arm tho. unless your jacket is thick and layered, its gonna pass through it very quickly from a single swipe.
what you should do is to use it loosely. much like in Spanish Fencing(Destreza). Knife gets tangled easily in thick clothing when stab/sliced.
Ah yes, the British way of solving problems.
SHAMK!
Isn't Knife Crime Triple in the US that of the UK??? 😂
Don't believe me, look it up...
"British" (they're all called Mohammed or Umbugwe)
@@Medusas_Barber I don't care? The British people aren't even allowed to use knives for the sole purpose of work (mainly farm work). How pathetic is that? Man I'm glad we left you peasants.
@@Medusas_Barber No uk tops the charts and you can blame immigrants for it.
Ah yes. I still remember him as "GN" (Gun Noob) from Funker Tactical community. That community eventually fall apart unfortunately and there were some really good guys and some dubious characters. GN was one of the good people that came from there and that seedling crystalized into him making a focus on hand to hand and knife fighting.
Eli knight was one of ‘em too, no?
@@jedijudoka Don't remember as I focused mainly on firearms content at the time.
I’ve learned a lot of lessons along the way. Good and bad. The journey is everything. -Paulo GN Rubio
You remember Roy Larner of course. Stabbed 8 times by three terrorists before the 3 terrorists ran away. Meanwhile the less combative civilians escapesd; and he survived. But, being a Milwall football hooligan, he would accept no credit for saving lives, but said it was the stupidest thing he had ever done.
Very refreshing, especially after seeing tons people whose sole advice is to "run away". What a profound knowledge, Sherlock, I haven't heard that 1000 times already.
I watched this in the last couple of days...he's the best I've seen. I've taken various martial arts classes years ago, and I've spent a lot of time thinking about self defense, and reading/listening to various experts. He's seriously the only person I've heard talk about the important parts. Everyone else wants to claim you can react and defend yourself barehanded.
I told my son I want him to watch these two videos, since he's never had any training at all. He tells me that lately, people are being attacked downtown. It's got to be because very few people are happy about the way things are going, domestically and abroad. Some woman almost decided to run me over at the grocery store, merely because I complained about her blocked the crosswalk with her car. Tempers are flaring all over.
As far I understand from watching knife/attack defence videos, it amounts to ‘wrestle with the knife’ and ‘if it works it works’.
they do that in the og video. check it out
Yeah, I mean if there's any improvised weapon to create spacing that's the best. But if not, then wrestling is pretty much your best bet and it's likely a coin flip. Knives have stuck around for a reason.
11:28 this is why I am here. I have already seen the original video, but I will watch it here again for such tasty lore bits. What a time to be alive.
In my youth I both avoided and sought confrontation. After growing up and ETSing from the Infantry, I loved the video. Great info, true info that I hope keeps people alive.
8:20 - I totally agree with you as well there. -Paulo
I spent nearly 10 years as a use of force instructor in a government service and because we were sometimes in positions where we were forced to deal with edged weapons we used to teach to expect to get cut, but this was for two reasons, firstly as you say to discourage any hero mentality by introducing the truth i.e. you probably will get cut if you choose to engage, but secondly if you're forced to engage and do get cut we didn't want people to shut down with the shock. I would stress though that we always taught to get away or contain if you could so that we could return to the problem with appropriate numbers and PPE if it came to it, but also to attempt suitable de-escalation. I've had to deal with several situations with armed assailants and invariably muscle memory and luck play an enormous part in my still being around to tell the tale.
This knife man is very smart
"The totality of circumstance"
Let alone the focus on probability and his obvious teaching ability.
Been attacked with a knife and used one some time ago in defence. It is super hard especially considering psychologicall factor and surprise factor (not to mention if you are not monitoring you surroundings then ggs). Distance and keen eye on other people hands and how they approach is best advice, saddly most of the time when "good" attack happens then you don't even know it is comming
As a Finn, ”Knife Fights” kind of reminds me of _”Puukkojunkkarit”_ (”Knife Fighters”), who were like the ”cowboys of Finland”, back in the 1800’s Southern Ostrobothnia 🇫🇮😅.
I was attacked with a knife a long time ago, by my mentally ill husband. It all took about a second, but I remember like in slow motion. I was cornered, no where to go. I tried to find a way to get away, and then just froze and got ready to die. What saved me was 2 police officers that were right behind the guy coming for me. One threw himself against the guy, throwing him away from me, then he grabbed me, threw me to the other officer, who caught me, and threw me to safety, and then both of them fought with the guy. That is a long tale short. What it did teach me is to not freeze anymore, but to fight if I have to.
Not too long ago there was another guy, a neighbour, that kept saying he was going to kill me, but saying it from a save distance. One day he stood in front of me, saying it again. I got ready to fight, instinctively, and told him to bring it on. He was younger, taller and stronger then me, in a male body, but I had enough of him. (I was a 56 or some year old woman at that time, he was a 28 or some year old guy, I can't call him a man.) I did not back off, and stood like I could easily best him. It confused him, and he backed off. He remained a pain in my butt, but did not say he would kill me anymore. He did make a song though, that he played on his electric guitar, singing it very loud out in his backyard, "Jacky wants to kill me". I'm glad to say he is no longer living here, he somehow disappeared after he bit another neighbourlady till she was bleeding.. I feel bad for the people that he lives next to now..
I've been in a lot of bad situations, and found every situation has it's own best way to handle it. But freezing is like giving up. And you should not go down till you are down. That time when I saw the police go like supermen, changed me. They not only saved me, but they also showed me there is often still a way..
I know 3 people that survived knife attacks, but all three had training dealing with weapons.
1) a recently released Marine officer going to night school in a business suit, trained to use anything as a weapon, used his attaché case to knock the knife out of the hand and followed up against the head with the backswing.
2) A SCA participant specializing aim sword play and had his rattan sword at hand’s reach. No contest.
3) Second SCA member on a NYC subway at 1am tried to tell the mugger to go away. Mugger lunges with knife to strike a mail coat under a cloak. This was followed by mailed fists against the mugger who ran away when the train made the next station.
In a knife fight, you're gonna get hurt if you do anything but get out of there. And even then you MIGHT get hurt.
Before watching:
In America, the answer is to carry a firearm and maintain situational awareness.
Solution 2 is mind numbing amounts of cardio.
Realistically accept that you will be cut and hurt, work to maintain distance, minimize damage, and make noise to get help.
Me: expecting advice on something ill hopefully never encounter.
Metatron: reviewing teaching techniques and methods and breaking them down so they make very much sense.
Thank you for that little wisdom nugget at about 6:25, aswell as just generaly interesting and informing content!
Pro wrestler here. The "TRUTH" to knife and general self defence in order...
1. Run!
2. Stay away from corners and run when able.
3. Keep your outside in, parrying should only be used in order to break a RUN for it.
4. Awareness beforehand is your best defense(common sense).
5. Freaking Run!
20:59 I really like that you did that, I actually was gonna comment that I feel conflicted about these longer reaction/review videos
BTW the best knife defense technique I've ever seen was from the very short book "Put 'Em Down, Take 'Em Out - Knife Fighting from Folsom Prison"
I already watched the original and liked it. So I was worried for a second that this would be a debunking video, because of the title. I'm glad you also liked it and brought a little bit more insight to it with the distance keeping. I would have liked it though, if you would have told a little bit more about what the ancient greeks told about this topic and pre fight indicators.
ancient parable
"He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day."
Rule #1 of a knife fight.. Run away!
As my sensei would say "The best defense is not to be there."
You're going to end up dead. First of all turning takes time in order to start running. Your enemy already is faster than you by already being toward your direction.
Second... You do not know can you actually outrun attacker.
Third... Well the thing with knives is... That they can be thrown.
Rule #2 - carry a handful of pocket sand
Nothing beats thrown pocket sand *_AND_* a clean get away by running from your attacker
Shaw shaw sha
@@TespriDo you have any clue how hard it is to throw a knife accurately, with the point hitting the target? If someone pulls a knife on me and wants my wallet, I'm giving them my wallet. That can be replaced. My life cannot
Have a gun
There are several exceptions to the blading one's body in a martial arts. Both in boxing and escrima you are squared up to your target. Another notable exception is gunfighting. You want to be squared up to the target. This was a change from the Weaver Stance (bladed). The idea being that A. You wear armor, and that armor is most prominent on the front. The other reason is that if you do catch a round going through the side puts more vitals in the path of the bullet.
I am glad to get your point of view on this one. I saw this video the other day and this guy made a lot of sense to me but I also find it very useful to hear what others think on the same subject.
Getting into guard or stance is not just to reduce the area that can be hit by the opponent but loading your stronger hand with potential energy. By moving the hitting hand back you give it more distance to travel and that helps with inertial forces.
Most hits like Jabs and weapon slashes have whipping effect. Sometimes pushing. But speed needs to be on the returning stroke of the hand so you can reload fast. And the stance with strong part of the body behind helps with the cnsecutive secon strike with the weak hand that has a stoping and distancing effect.
Damn, i havent noticed guy with a rifle behind them. And then when I saw him i wondered why is there a dude with a gun. Good paper rifleman, looks lifelike.
things like the Bondi Junction attack make me think what would one do seeing it going down, yell he has a knife probably the best first response, obviously run if he approaches, getting the attention of others is most important to save others and getting something inbetween you and the attacker if cornered ie a shopping trolley or piece of furniture, while he is attacking another a chair or something thrown is a possibility if there are other people present (not a good idea if you are isolated) a chair is also a good defensive weapon if you cannot run, it has 4 legs
It’s okay to be Anglo Saxon
BUT NOT OK TO BE NORMAN LOL
fk does that have to do with this video
It's ok, to start a different copy&pasted thread
It's great to be Anglo Saxon.
There's a difference between disliking woke culture and spamming this everywhere. Get over it
I did watch this because the algorithm sent me, and now I'm watching it with you and it's just as fun the second time around it was a very powerful demonstration and it's gratifying to see you enjoyed it as well
This was really useful to me. I'd watched the original video but let's just say I know barely enough to save myself from the Dunning-Kruger effect when it comes to fighting. But I can't parse whether an expert is BSing me nearly as well as someone with practical experience. I'm glad to hear that my take on the original video seems to be a reasonable one. Thank you!
You have to be trained in that kind of combat. Well it's certainly better if you are. My father was a US Marine in WW2 and the first action he was in was at an atoll named Roi-Namur in the Marshall Islands. When clearing some of the larger islands, ones big enough to have a garrison, my father had a knife fight with a Japanese NCO that he was fortunate enough to prevail in. When he got back to the USA after the war (he was then 21 years old) a few teenagers in the Bronx attempted to rob him and he took the knife off the kid and broke his arm. With him a kid with a knife didn't scare him too much. Another time he was confronted by two guys each with a handgun and he just turned over his money. He said that's a whole different story. If you're a Marine or soldier combat veteran or your trained to deal with a knife attack then you do what you have to do if you feel it have do it.
You tube recommended this video to me, and I ignored it thinking it was just another bad self defense video. Thanks Raph for sharing, and I'll go watch the whole thing now.
How to tell the difference between the loser and the winner in a knife fight: the loser dies there on the scene, and the winner dies later on in the hospital.
What brought it home for me is the current 'Ultimate Self Defence Championship' (which inc. Jesse Enkamp) thing with the various martial artists in mock scenarios inc people with fake knives that mark with ink/paint if they make contact. Every person who went anywhere near a knife-wielder was immediately covered in marks that would be at least cuts.
6:08 thank you for putting this amendment in at the end. i had a teacher who used this methodology but reacted in the ways you said while also being very rigid about "figure it out yourself" and it honestly made me hate learning from him, as well as the subject he was attempting to teach.
Here is a list of injuries I got either from being jumped by people with knives or getting into knife fights 3 stab wounds that blade hit bone, multiple superficial cuts, quite a few cuts that didn't need stitches or liquid stitches but drew blood, forehead cut that needed several applications of liquid stitches, poiner finger on left hand nearly severed the tip just barely missing the tendon and a few cuts so deep I actually wanted to go to a doctor to get stitches because I was still bleeding after multiple different treatments and multiple fresh bandages if at all avoidable do that because I am pretty certain that I shortened my life tremendously
Even the mediaeval Masters stated that you were likely to get cut in a knife fight, and to avoid a knife fight if possible. And then went on to say things like, "Better a small cut than a big hole." And showed ways to deal with knife fights in the context of their time and societies.
ALWAYS remember the 21 foot rule.If theyre within 21 foot, you are in the danger zone.
First rule if youre involved with a knife scenario, even if you have a firearm. RUN if possible. If theres absolutely no way out, then defend yourself at all cost.
The 21 foot rule is only applicable if you stand completely still while drawing. If you backpedal quickly as you draw then that gives you significantly more time to lay down shots. If you have a gun, then don’t take the gamble that you’re going to be a faster runner than the attacker. Also the rest of us will thank you for taking someone that dangerous off the streets permanently.
That's 21 feet, if you're prepared for the attack.
If you're not, if you're just minding your own business and not really paying attention (as most of us are), then there is no safe distance.
21 feet is assuming a lot of variables. Some weapons are easier and faster to deploy (due to holster systems and laws, firearms can actually be rather slow to deploy), confined spaces, how fast the assailant is approaching you, defendant situational awareness and reaction speed.
I said it before, but it's worth repeating: Jesse made some amazing historical videos about the origins of Karate. One about south-east influences, one about french influences ans, by far the most amazing, about the original chinese origins. For this one, he visits the south of China. th-cam.com/video/UCvimTuwkZY/w-d-xo.html
I had a knife pulled on me once. It centered me similar to an inevitable car crash but a lot less. In a car crash you get sort of an out of body experience and view your body do everything exactly right. When someone pulls a knife. It's more like you are meditating waiting for the opening to counter his attack. He never actually attacked. Backed down after a friend showed up and wanted to get the fight started.
Police here have the 21 ft rule. If an assailant is 21 ft or closer even with a knife, they can reach you before you draw your firearm or any weapon for that matter, so it is best to always keep your senses sharp and seek a crowded public space because they'll be less likely to attack there. However, knowing self-defense and how to disarm an assailant is very important in such scenarios.
Edit: as someone who has been stabbed before, twice with a knife and other timed with pencils or arrows from a bow. You aren't always ready if you don't know the signs, crowded spaces, witnesses and or places of refuge are usually the best way to avoid that.
At my age, it's stay home and get a large dog.
I Legit saw this Vid this Morning... Metatron is in my YT algorithm!!! o.O
In wrestling it's almost always the case that you want both of your hips to be directed towards your opponent. If you're bladed then that makes your lead leg difficult to defend from a single leg.
In any fight that someone brings to you or that you decide to enter, expect it to be a fight with a knife. Whether you’re striking, clinching or on the ground, fight as if he/she will draw a blade. Don’t assume that a fist fight won’t turn into a knife fight. If you go into grappling range/clinch and know what you’re doing, avoid staying on the inside, monitor and tie up his dominant hand. Don’t become over reliant on positions where you lose sight of his hands like front headlocks, guillotines. Fight as if he is trying to access a weapon, probably from his waistline, and you will raise your chances of stopping or intercepting a draw.
21:20 really appreciate that sentiment.
I once had a knife pulled on me when I was about 12 years old. I ran. With what I have learned, I’m grateful that I ran.
I saw this guy in a TH-cam martial artist show where people in various disciplines competed in challenges. It was very entertaining and he was fun to watch. And of course his friendship with his mentor and idol Grandmaster Ken is the cherry on top.
One of the only times I can think of where it’s best to square up to an attacker is if you’re wearing body armor. Especially hard armor; but other than that, yeah…
Mostly adding this for your algorithm, but it’s also a thought I had.
It's funny ,i saw that video and i fought about you,i was waiting for this. Nice video Metatron. ^^
when you blade your stance, as a martial arts fighter you also hide the chin behind your shoulder which is vital for striking
1. RUN
2. Find a defensive object
3. Blundgeon with object or Retreat/Run
I would also imagine that the statement you will get cut or stabbed if you engage in a knife fight would also to advice a fighter to engage if they have to. Being overly defensive in a knife fight would probably mean you are going to lose especially if you aren't very well trained.
Nothing shatters the illusion of being a tough guy faster than the sudden, sharp sting of a blade, followed by the sight of your lifeblood rhythmically spilling away. As lightheadedness and a tingling numbness creep in, the reality of how fragile you truly are becomes undeniable... and then you're gone forever.
Nothing shatters the illusion of being a tough guy than the sudden realization that you’ve thrown your life away and now must spend your remaining days in a cold hard cell, showering with men, and eating slop until you eventually die. I’m not sure what you’re trying to say with this comment, but it’s clear that you need help psychologically.
@@keeferChiefer What I'm trying to say is: If someone attacks you with a knife: Don't be stupid-run if you can. No matter how "tough," fit, and well-trained you are (or think you are), I sure would, if it were at all possible.
But thank you for being concerned over my mental health, which is fine, I assure you.
It’s important to notice the signs as he said and then attack instead of waiting to be attacked…been in that situation once…i noticed guy touching his pocket when he was making threats…saw puukko handle…
Running away of course only works if you can. Overweight, age and infirmity will render a quick escape impossible. Then if verbal deescalation fails…you are going to be attacked, and knowing that you better work out how to inflict serious damage real quick. Fortunately most knife attackers are untrained kids, but they may be quick and have done it before. In the US gun ownership can level the playing field between attacker and victim, BUT only assuming you are not being stopped at gun point first. The one saving grace of a knife attack is they have to be toe to toe to be a serious threat.
Best defense. No be there. -Mr. Miyagi
Had my throat slit when I was 15, didn't see the knife, Thought he threw a punch and missed. Didn't feel the second knife go into my chest either. It wasn't until a girls screams registered that I knew something real bad was happening. I tried to get the hell out of there and got stabbed through my back into my lung, and then another strike across my back and through my armpit.
I'm just as impressed that the teacher, being American, knows about goalkeepers techniques, and football! No hate! One love from Scotland. 💙 🦄🏴
I survived a knife attack. Imo its primal, the will to live, that forms the basis of survival. I was banged up afterward, micro surgery on my index and middle fingers, stitches in hip and leg, rehab. I'm not discounting training importance but i think you got to prepared to go all the way.
the logic of ANY FIGHT is the one who is attacking you, knows he is attacking you so he is ready but although you know it's coming you are still always fraction of seconds behind the first move.
The instructors journey can be seen here on YT. Think it was Funker-something.
I watched this Vid on Jesse's Channel. It's one of the Best Martial Arts Instructor Vids I've ever come across. It's also similar to how I process matters in Fighting anf the Martial Arts.
Metatron "I've seen that"
me who grew up in Tenant Creek, "I've experienced that.".
I actually commented on his video, that its when they turn and scan that you should react and make your move
In a knife fight both lose.. Loser dies on the scene, winner dies in the ambulance