Yeah ICP in their Kayfabe Commentaries You Shoot interview said Proof was the go between to squash the beef and ended up with ICP, Proof & Eminem all going bowling together
Yeah man. Rock the Bells in the San Francisco Giants parking lot. RATM, Wu Tang, Cypress Hill, Nas, EPMD, MF Doom, Heiro, The Roots, 2007. Took the most edible's in my life that night. Feet draggin stylee. HAHA!
@@brandoncobb5352 they didn't throw him under the bus, the bit his whole style just like tech9 bit their whole style. Esham was violent js favorite rapper. Even Eminem bit esham and icp, though his time in new jersey with the outsiders was really a major part of where he got his style from too
@@jamesblake5176 everybody bites their style from someone. It's what you do in evolving or adding to it that counts. We've seen the few guys who try and straight up replicate someone else's work. They don't turn out so great. Young Eminem you can definitely hear the influences but as he grew as an artist he all of a sudden became that guy other young rappers bit off of.
Esham is the shit always loved his work been listening to him since I was 13. Hell, I listened to Closed Casket on a road trip last week for the hell of it. The production on those beats back then for 1993 was crazy. I think he was under rated. Definitely one of the all time greats to come out of the east side.
Shit I was there just a few years ago and was just thrilled to be in such a rap historical and iconical place. If you into Rap, you gotta visit Detroit, see the Saint Andrews , see the shelter. It's American History!!!
Basically Em saw J at a club. Handed him a flyer for a show. It said "ICP might show up." J was like WTF?? Em asked if they'll show up. J was pissed and said "Hell nah fuck off." So once Em blew up huge, he made sure to talk some shit. I'm glad it got squashed because I like both sides. But if it ever got physical, 1 on 1, sheeeeit. Eminem is not in Violent J's weight class. We're talking 5'8 170 pounds vs 6'2 230-280 pounds, depending on the year. It's a damn shame that they couldn't coexist. Because Em/ICP collaborations in the 90s/2000s would have been crazy.
@@wmred According to Twiztid, they were trying to get ICP to sign Eminem to Psychopathic Records before another label could, but ICP wouldn't do it because of the beef.
@@TheNightCameraEminem opened up for House of Krazees way back in the day. He might've been under the name "Champ Town" or some shit. There's a video of the concert but I dunno if it shows Eminem but it's THAT show.
@@jamesblake5176 Nuttin' but a Bxtch Thang was damn good as well. I think the "politically correctness" is going to stop people from mentioning these diss tracks. I seen a guy doing reaction videos, stop the ICP track as soon as he heard a couple gay slurs, and would not play anymore.
ICP may not be the greatest music in the world, but they certainly are great people. Every interview they've ever done is either totally hilarious or deeply sincere (especially the old Loveline interviews).
Yea i used to hate on them on a lot because i thought their music was corny. But then i listened to them in a few interviews and i definitely have respect for them. Still think their music and vibe is corny af but i respect their legacy now
As much as I have to agree with what you're saying...... cause I've been a DIE HARD ESHAM fan for like 25 years....... he might not be the best I his group...... cause MASTAMIND is just as good I not better...... but NATAS is the best collection of music EVER rest in piece T-N-T..... listen to CRAZY TOWN by tnt it might change your world
D12 still is one of the best group of lyricists of all time. Their album Devils Night will always be a classic, and bizarre will forever be one of the guys whose bars i can recite, esp about his grandma 🤣
What's hilarious is dude doing the interview looks like he'd be hardcore juggalo. Full disclosure before the hate.. this is my first time ever seeing this dude, and I'll definitely check out more interviews. This was dope
As a juggalo. I've met juggalos of all ages all demographs even today. Especially now with ouija Macc and the new joker cards. A bunch of new young juggalos To add to that , I get alot of young juggalos asking other juggalos which Era did they start calling themselves a juggalo. Which is awesome. Recognizing the older generation, the maturity of the subculture and embracing the the new era. You wanna talk about merch game 😅 one day someone's going to analyze their albums and really get a finger on why ICP is successful. There's something deeper there and it's the bigger reason then merch alone why juggalos exist. Awesome interview, I love bizarre, love Eminem.
Check out Finn McKenty's video about ICP! He really nailed down why ICP is successful and it really helped me understand them and respect them as geniuses, even though their music still isn't my cup of tea.
That's what I'm saying! This guy just must not be paying attention. Theirs definitely new wave young Juggalos. Sure the fan base is smaller then it was in 2002 or 2012.....but it's naive to act like it still doesn't have life with the youth.
I never knew that about King Gordy. But it's a full circle moment for me. In 8 mile, when em goes up to the studio for an interview and catches his girl fxckin, through the window in the other studio was King Gordy mid interview. Braids up and all. 🤯
There is a VladTV interview with ICP where they spell out the beef and how it originated. Something about Eminem's crew handling ICP fake posters for a concert with their name on it as a prank/joke which they obviously took sideways and their crews would go at it on site. Watch the interview.
@@brendonschomer5736 close, but wasn’t a prank. Eminem (before Dre) handed violent J a flyer promoting Eminem’s upcoming show, and it said special guests ICP (to draw more people) J said “why is our name on the Flyer? We never agreed to being here” to which Em replied “well I’m asking you now, wanna come?” That rubbed Icp the wrong way. Then em was on the radio doing an interview and said “fu** Icp by my cd” and it just kept growing
I'm not juggalo but I randomly ended up at an ICP show, they were performing Great Milenko live. I had no idea what to expect, but I remember hearing some of their old stuff when I was younger. A friend of mine always wore a Jeckel Brother t shirt like every day lol. Anyway, the show was off the fuckin chain, one of the most fun live events I've seen. Those fuckers know how to party
Esham didn't have a problem with the "cross between Manson, Esham, and Ozzy" line. He even used the quote for a cd release. It was the lyrics from Em on "Kill You" that set Esham off. "I ain't Acid Rap but I rap on acid..."
Facts. Esham was mad that Eminem was acting like he never heard of him but mentioned him in that first line on SS ep. Esham and TNT got jumped at a 2001 warped tour show by Eminem fans allegedly for rapping songs off of his album "Tounges" where he dissed Eminem on a few of the tracks. I been a Esham fan for a long time and i consider him the Godfather of Detroit rap. many had come out of the D but Esham and Natas were out this atmosphere. RIP to Terry "TNT" Jones. "N.A.T.A.S. will Never Die forever i fly"
What really started the beef was devil's night D12 thought esham stole or dropped knowledge first about devil's night I am not from the D but I heard it's crazy back in the day on Halloween throw a Molly cocktail bottle full of fire at empty houses in burn them down
Nah, that was AFTER Esham dissed Eminem after Esham was initially fine with the Eminem line, but changed his mind. I'm pretty sure that entire 2nd verse of Kill You was aimed at Esham.
ICP definitely left their mark. I mean, who else was able to get a bunch of ppl to paint their faces black and white like clowns, and be throwing faygo around and ppl FUCKING LOVED IT
I'm from a hick town in Southern Ontario and I loved Eminem, my friend loved icp We constantly gave each other a hard time about the shit back and forth , I had no idea em would end up one of the greats Juggalos were on the shit though, crazy as hell Still remember that game show song lol funny shit
It was called Acid Rap and Esham was the King. Em started that beef with the Heart Plaza Concert. That shit was intense!! Hot Rocks, Streamers and all them low key spots. I got into with Shaggy for spillin Rock and Rye on My Rockports 😂😂😂
He has some of the facts backwards....the ICP contest was happening UPSTAIRS in Saint Andrews Hall.......Eminem and Trick Trick were in the basement at thr Shelter shooting the "Welcome to Detroit City" video.
I remember reading a little bit of icp's book, the first few chapters were so heartbreaking. It wasn't my book so I couldn't keep it and continue reading it but hopefully I can find that book one day and buy it. It pretty much explains their childhood, how they grew up and how they became ICP.
I was at eshams last concert in Virginia with I.C.P. and after the show caught him in a closed restaurant waiting on my ride and had the honor of meeting him and chilling with him for a little while. He was the most down to earth cool ass dude I've ever had the honor of meeting like that. Still have all autographed shit from him
@@NCCalvin9 why would I lie? Esham ain't anyone big enough to lie about opening for. Also opened for bizarre, obie trice, saint dog from kmk, and 2live crew around the same time though. A buddy of mine opened for tech nine. It's not hard to get gigs if you know people and know how to talk like a normal person. Lol.
Proud to say the entire reason I'm a fan of all the hip hop artists I fuck with is because of ICP. They introduced me to the genre when all I knew was blink-182 and disturbed n shit. If I never fucked with ICP I'd have never branched out in rap as a listener.
When I worked for psychopathic records 3 things happened. 1. Eminem pulled the unloaded gun on the Dale Boys. 2. Eminem bumped into us heading into the air port and hid behind 5 bodyguards. 3. I personally was going to approach Eminem at the cow palace in Anaheim on the family values but was told to step back.. instead I littered the show with icp cds and flyers. They didn't want me to do it tho they wanted peace.
He’s right haha. I’m 37 and the massive horror core scene I knew as a teenager has died. Q strange was probably the best and least recognized horrorcore artist the have done it.
There's actually a ton of super young Juggalos. They've gone viral so many times. These kids love that stuff. I'd even argue that a lot of the older folks outgrew them, and the youngsters are carrying the torch.
On Kayfabe Commentaries You Shoot (wrestling interview) ICP said Proof was the one to act as a go between them and Eminem to squash their beef and ended with them all going bowling together.
Peter S. Bizarre has one of the most distinct styles and voices in the history of the rap game just super grimy I loved it when I 1st heard it on Devils Night
I was really looking forward for Bizarre's parts when Devil's Night was about to drop. I had heard him on Amityville, Under the Influence, the DJ Butter - Kill the DJ mixtape (No Rubber, a nasty-ass track) and I think I had "The Underground EP" as mp3's on my computer. He did not disappoint, that much was clear halfway through Nasty Mind!
The first time I ever heard of ICP was because of Eminem. Then in high school I knew a lot of people who were juggalos, but didn't think much of it until I asked some of my friend if they had ever heard of ICP and they all said no. So that's when I looked them up
Eminem is not from Detroit he's from Warren Michigan but D12 was some real serious dudes in the streets Em got down with em too when things got thick he was never soft he always had heart im from the D Mack Ave to be exact Eastside what up doe
We need an Eminem ICP collab for 2023. One, it shows beef can be petty and end, two, I want to hear them all work together on a track, especially old school Slim Shady and Insane Clown Posse doing the wicked style they both did back in the day. Maybe even feature Cage since him and Em had their beef as well. I think ICP and or Cage would do it, but I don't think Em would. Would love to see it happen though.
Im not an icp fan.. but they have a few gems in their huge catalog.. assassins, fuck the world, haloween on military street, spin the bottle, crazy click ft 3 6 mafia.. and a few others.. and to be honest id fucking love to go to the gathering of juggalos.. never been..
I know people probably think I’m crazy but I really think Eminem and ICP should work together. Just ONE time! Im a juggalo and I was def a Stan during Em first run, just want to hear them create some crazy wicked shit. Idk if Em would really look down on them anymore, he doesn’t really diss them when he does name drop them. they both have a deep respect for the old school pioneers of hip hop. And obv they all from Detroit. I feel like even if they were both open to the idea, neither party would want to reach out to the other 😅
I am only 30 and a Juggalo I was 14 when I lived through most of the beef heard all the dis tracks both sides you know what made it great is it kept them evolving their styles glad Proof helped crush the beef Ps I might not be into Eminem's solo stuff but I did get into his D12 work
The juggalos are still coming we got younger people I’m only 28 been down for id day 15 years always kinda liked it but got heavy into it right before high school for sure the wildest live shows I’ve ever been to, and ya not all of us are bad like all groups/ fans but we got love for all who’s open to it and what not whoop whoop mmwcl
I've always hung out with Juggalos and word was, someone in ICP's camp had Em's CD in his car and either ICP, or a friend snatched him out and he got jumped.
The truth is Eminem put out a flyer advertising his show and had "and maybe ICP." on it. For some dumbass reason ICP took real offense to that and basically told Eminem to go fuck himself because of that. Thats where it starts. They made a lot of money. Gained loyal fans. But I always wondered would they take that one back. Em blew up. Would have been better to have an ally, then made an enemy.
@@Equinsu_Ocha69 yea I did it felt like an interview we talked about astrology and stuff like levitation he was like a older brother to me yeah he was ok but got mad at me for telling him who I was lol I think he thought I was older but yeah isolated incident he brought me to his place
Sounds like one of two situations: 1) it's two dudes who know rap and know a little ABOUT ICP and are just talking about shit they don't understand (Examples "Psychopath records", interviewer mentions faygo, Bizarre randomly responds "the gathering") or 2) Interviewer is only very vaguely aware of ICP etc. and Bizarre is very aware but is holding back defending juggalos for some weird reason ...I acknowledge it might also be some third thing I didn't think of.. This was just how I saw it..
Juggalos of all ages bro.....bc us old juggalos in our 30's and up are not making random songs spike in popularity bc of Tik Tok. One of those songs as a single randomly went gold and ICP are NOT SINGLE driven ARTISTS.
Haven't seen Bizarre in a few years but damn he's really slimmed down a lot, and he looks younger too. Props to him
for real he looks good.
It's all the crack he's been smoking.
“Do you know why my hands are so numb.”
is he sober? it could easily be drugs as well... no offense to bizarre... he looks good either way.
@@carter3369 bro that's the line I remember from him most lol
Bizarre is slowly becoming one of hip hops key historians for real
45 year old juggalo and still down with the clown…MMFWCL WHOOP WHOOP
@@b-rog4444 the more modern version of old guys who are way to into Kiss. 😂😂
Same with yayo
And he can't remember with all the weed he smokes
@@b-rog4444 whoop whoop
Proof was a legend. He brought the beef to an end.
💔🙏❤️💯🙌
He was a Detroit legend before becoming worldwide famous
Which is why I think he was murdered.
Yeah ICP in their Kayfabe Commentaries You Shoot interview said Proof was the go between to squash the beef and ended up with ICP, Proof & Eminem all going bowling together
@@HittokiriBattousai17 Trick Trick too is a legend, do anything to him or his homies from the D, he will ban you
RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE AND WU TANG CLAN IN A SHOW TOGETHER????!!!?? Man the 90’s are where it’s at man we won’t ever get shit like that again 😓
It was RATM Wu Tang and Atari Teenage Riot
Saw that tour in DC in 97
Yeah man. Rock the Bells in the San Francisco Giants parking lot. RATM, Wu Tang, Cypress Hill, Nas, EPMD, MF Doom, Heiro, The Roots, 2007. Took the most edible's in my life that night. Feet draggin stylee. HAHA!
RATM a bunch of commies
Wu-Tang left the tour midway through- right before St Louis (where I saw it). Rage was incredible.
Wu-Tang > Rage on Behalf of the Machine
I don’t like ICP’s music at all, but they’re legends in underground hip hop and I respect their legacy.
Listen to their 2002 album and tell me otherwise. they've got lots of good songs
@@More-Cowbell-SlideGuitar-Harp it’s just not my style of music. I’m sure they do have good stuff for the right audience but that’s not me.
agreed they had the underground scene on lock for a minute back in the late 90s early 2000s
Only a few songs I enjoy
@@More-Cowbell-SlideGuitar-Harp Nah, their 2004 album was their wickedest
Props to Bizarre for the subtle way he made Kev know not to go down the path of disrespecting Esham.
I think ICP admitted they got their style from Esham and there always being an understanding between Juggalos that ICP threw him under the bus.
Esham sux ...
@@brandoncobb5352 they didn't throw him under the bus, the bit his whole style just like tech9 bit their whole style. Esham was violent js favorite rapper. Even Eminem bit esham and icp, though his time in new jersey with the outsiders was really a major part of where he got his style from too
@@jamesblake5176 everybody bites their style from someone. It's what you do in evolving or adding to it that counts. We've seen the few guys who try and straight up replicate someone else's work. They don't turn out so great. Young Eminem you can definitely hear the influences but as he grew as an artist he all of a sudden became that guy other young rappers bit off of.
@@jamesblake5176 Tech N9ne didn't bite ICP, totally different styles and sound. He was influenced by Cube, Chuck D, BDK, Rakim, etc
Love seeing Biz make the rounds recently with a lot of the bigger channels
100% Detroit legend.
You can buy your way onto anything
He's making good music again with my boy foulmouth
Bizarre is pretty chill. His style has always entertained me. Actually was pretty cool seeing how he conducted himself in this interview.
why do white people get to impressed when us black folk behave? Jfc
Esham is the shit always loved his work been listening to him since I was 13. Hell, I listened to Closed Casket on a road trip last week for the hell of it. The production on those beats back then for 1993 was crazy. I think he was under rated. Definitely one of the all time greats to come out of the east side.
Definitely bro my all time favorite is natas Life after death
Most definitely
Life after death was GREAT but it wasn't the best album by NATAS... doubelievengod WAS/IS the BEST ALBUM EVER MADE
No cap Bizarre been a juggalo his whole life and never knew it
𝙻𝚘𝚕 𝚛𝚒𝚐𝚑𝚝!
I could see that 😂
If you were a rap music fan, Detroit was a great place to be in the 90s.
Shit I was there just a few years ago and was just thrilled to be in such a rap historical and iconical place. If you into Rap, you gotta visit Detroit, see the Saint Andrews , see the shelter. It's American History!!!
City Club!!!
No New York was definitely the place to be for rap in 90s stop the cap lmao 😂
@@NCCalvin9 East coast rap for the win.
@@gheuk984 facts
Basically Em saw J at a club. Handed him a flyer for a show. It said "ICP might show up." J was like WTF?? Em asked if they'll show up. J was pissed and said "Hell nah fuck off." So once Em blew up huge, he made sure to talk some shit.
I'm glad it got squashed because I like both sides. But if it ever got physical, 1 on 1, sheeeeit. Eminem is not in Violent J's weight class. We're talking 5'8 170 pounds vs 6'2 230-280 pounds, depending on the year.
It's a damn shame that they couldn't coexist. Because Em/ICP collaborations in the 90s/2000s would have been crazy.
I always wonder what would have happened had J been cool about it and done the show. Em may have even released an early album or two on Psychopathic.
@@wmred According to Twiztid, they were trying to get ICP to sign Eminem to Psychopathic Records before another label could, but ICP wouldn't do it because of the beef.
@@TheNightCameraso petty. Could have been a historic collaboration.
J also told him they would've came if he just hollered at them the right way
@@TheNightCameraEminem opened up for House of Krazees way back in the day.
He might've been under the name "Champ Town" or some shit.
There's a video of the concert but I dunno if it shows Eminem but it's THAT show.
Slim anus is the most under rated diss track of all time
No bro, check out "please don't hate me" by icp. They was the best diss track
@@Jae_hX no bro check out miracles by icp, "it's just all on the air"
Ain't nothing but a bitch was good em had no comeback for that
@@Jae_hX I'm just saying when people talk about rap beefs they never mention slim anus
@@jamesblake5176 Nuttin' but a Bxtch Thang was damn good as well. I think the "politically correctness" is going to stop people from mentioning these diss tracks. I seen a guy doing reaction videos, stop the ICP track as soon as he heard a couple gay slurs, and would not play anymore.
Bizarre is the uncle I never had and always wanted
Biz is a real one
love them or hate them ICP are pioneers in the indy game
Icp is garbage. Let's be real.
😂
ICP may not be the greatest music in the world, but they certainly are great people. Every interview they've ever done is either totally hilarious or deeply sincere (especially the old Loveline interviews).
Man I still listen to old episodes of Loveline here on TH-cam sometimes when I'm tryna sleep. Just like I did back in the day when I was like 13
Yea i used to hate on them on a lot because i thought their music was corny. But then i listened to them in a few interviews and i definitely have respect for them. Still think their music and vibe is corny af but i respect their legacy now
Icp never changed or care for what people think and that’s reasons enough to respect them
Yeah shaggy 2 dope is funny as fuck
Violent J recently did an episode of the Jim & Sam podcast.
The other guest was Neil de Grasse Tyson.
He got it backwords...ICP was up top in the St Andrews Hall and D12 was in the shelter. AMB won that "talent show". I was there and seen Bizarre
Backwards for sure
We get it bro here’s your moment of fame
Gay comment
@@thraxeadamus think he was talking to the dude dissing you prior to his comment.
@@nopzythagr8 ah i see
It’s crazy how I’m old school rap stories, there are so many unplanned run ins. Nowadays everyone know where everyone is at every moment
It’s almost like technology is completely diff or something? Lol
@@ACarter87 right 😆
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Shot out to Esham.....
The wicket shit will never die!!!!!
💪🏿🤴🏿🗣
The real wicked shit yes. Not that candy coated christian carnival bs lol
Esham is a GOAT in DETROIT
About the only place he is lmao.....
@@macgruberyahfrigginturds7044cry more
As much as I have to agree with what you're saying...... cause I've been a DIE HARD ESHAM fan for like 25 years....... he might not be the best I his group...... cause MASTAMIND is just as good I not better...... but NATAS is the best collection of music EVER rest in piece T-N-T..... listen to CRAZY TOWN by tnt it might change your world
“From the second I was born, my momma lost me. I’m a cross between Manson, Esham and Ozzy.”
Bizarre looks good and healthy. Solid interview.
He popping them percs an Addie's wym?
@@joelreid1176 percocet and adderall-
Esham is a legend here in Detroit.."I don't bullshit..no need to bullshit..you pull some shit and you'll be full of bullets and shit"
Nah ppl in the 313 know exactly what is up..
Esham The Unholy is whats up.
D12 still is one of the best group of lyricists of all time. Their album Devils Night will always be a classic, and bizarre will forever be one of the guys whose bars i can recite, esp about his grandma 🤣
The Vincent Price mixtape they did was so dam good
Handicap circus
But I don’t go nowhere without my pistol pistol 🔥 🔫 😂
Imagine his mum hears "all bitches is hoes, even my stinkin and mom"
one of the?
What's hilarious is dude doing the interview looks like he'd be hardcore juggalo.
Full disclosure before the hate.. this is my first time ever seeing this dude, and I'll definitely check out more interviews. This was dope
Us Juggalos show love to people and also have put money in this guys pockets as well. Bet today if done the interview he say different.
Not being funny but by just looking at the guy doing the interview in what way did you draw the conclusion he would be a "hardcore Juggalo"?
His new album came out a couple weeks ago
As a juggalo. I've met juggalos of all ages all demographs even today. Especially now with ouija Macc and the new joker cards. A bunch of new young juggalos
To add to that , I get alot of young juggalos asking other juggalos which Era did they start calling themselves a juggalo. Which is awesome. Recognizing the older generation, the maturity of the subculture and embracing the the new era. You wanna talk about merch game 😅 one day someone's going to analyze their albums and really get a finger on why ICP is successful. There's something deeper there and it's the bigger reason then merch alone why juggalos exist.
Awesome interview, I love bizarre, love Eminem.
Check out Finn McKenty's video about ICP! He really nailed down why ICP is successful and it really helped me understand them and respect them as geniuses, even though their music still isn't my cup of tea.
Ouija Mack is fire af
That's what I'm saying! This guy just must not be paying attention. Theirs definitely new wave young Juggalos. Sure the fan base is smaller then it was in 2002 or 2012.....but it's naive to act like it still doesn't have life with the youth.
Darcc planet, man every song on that album is 🔥
Psycho Babble hits harder in my opinion mjl
I never knew that about King Gordy. But it's a full circle moment for me.
In 8 mile, when em goes up to the studio for an interview and catches his girl fxckin, through the window in the other studio was King Gordy mid interview.
Braids up and all. 🤯
You should look up L.A.R.S. (last American rock stars) biz and king Gordy did a album together worth a spotify listen
Used to be huge on both groups. Mad respect to both sides for their contributions to the game.
He ain't forget what happens it didnt go the way Eminem wanted
Yea but I think it all
Worked out for Em 😂
the host always trying to insult ICP/Juggalos shows he's the true clown. Dude wishes he was a fraction of successful as ICP. Great job by Bizarre.
20 years old and i still like ICP
Good seeing Bizarre looking healthy
They definitely were another evolution in rap with that beef that shit with Kenn Kaniff will never get old! 😆
From Connecticut
I saw that Rage and WU tour in Cali!!! Whoop Whoop
That beef was always random as hell to me. Never knew what kicked it off but man D12 was wylin on those songs getting at ICP
There is a VladTV interview with ICP where they spell out the beef and how it originated. Something about Eminem's crew handling ICP fake posters for a concert with their name on it as a prank/joke which they obviously took sideways and their crews would go at it on site. Watch the interview.
@@brendonschomer5736 close, but wasn’t a prank. Eminem (before Dre) handed violent J a flyer promoting Eminem’s upcoming show, and it said special guests ICP (to draw more people) J said “why is our name on the Flyer? We never agreed to being here” to which Em replied “well I’m asking you now, wanna come?” That rubbed Icp the wrong way. Then em was on the radio doing an interview and said “fu** Icp by my cd” and it just kept growing
Em pulled the strap out on em
@@justingleason3950 I'll take close lol
Me too 😂..I was 19 in 99 and started hearing about the “beef” between Marshall and icp and thought ..welll that’s random as fuxk
Mad juggalos of all ages my guy, whoop whoop to bizarre
I'm not juggalo but I randomly ended up at an ICP show, they were performing Great Milenko live. I had no idea what to expect, but I remember hearing some of their old stuff when I was younger. A friend of mine always wore a Jeckel Brother t shirt like every day lol. Anyway, the show was off the fuckin chain, one of the most fun live events I've seen. Those fuckers know how to party
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Mostly weirdos
@@cuchuloholic whats really weird in the day and age?? This world is filled with nothing but weirdos my guy.
What is the whoop whoop about
“50 told me to sit ups to get buffed….. did 2 1/2 & couldn’t get up”……
Lmfao i remember those lyrics thats " my band. "
I'm a Juggalo for life I also love Eminem I've always wanted them to do a fucking song together it would be fucking insane
Esham didn't have a problem with the "cross between Manson, Esham, and Ozzy" line. He even used the quote for a cd release. It was the lyrics from Em on "Kill You" that set Esham off.
"I ain't Acid Rap but I rap on acid..."
Just got a new blow up doll and had a strap on added
Facts. Esham was mad that Eminem was acting like he never heard of him but mentioned him in that first line on SS ep. Esham and TNT got jumped at a 2001 warped tour show by Eminem fans allegedly for rapping songs off of his album "Tounges" where he dissed Eminem on a few of the tracks. I been a Esham fan for a long time and i consider him the Godfather of Detroit rap. many had come out of the D but Esham and Natas were out this atmosphere. RIP to Terry "TNT" Jones. "N.A.T.A.S. will Never Die forever i fly"
What really started the beef was devil's night D12 thought esham stole or dropped knowledge first about devil's night I am not from the D but I heard it's crazy back in the day on Halloween throw a Molly cocktail bottle full of fire at empty houses in burn them down
Nah, that was AFTER Esham dissed Eminem after Esham was initially fine with the Eminem line, but changed his mind. I'm pretty sure that entire 2nd verse of Kill You was aimed at Esham.
ICP had an endless number of hardcore juggalos that would have done some dumb shit at the drop of a hat back at the time of this beef.
Noone should ever underestimate the stupidity of a juggulo.
I'm a big fan of ICP, Em, Bizarre, Twiztid, Esham and King Gordy. Boondox is still my favorite
ICP definitely left their mark. I mean, who else was able to get a bunch of ppl to paint their faces black and white like clowns, and be throwing faygo around and ppl FUCKING LOVED IT
I'm from a hick town in Southern Ontario and I loved Eminem, my friend loved icp
We constantly gave each other a hard time about the shit back and forth , I had no idea em would end up one of the greats
Juggalos were on the shit though, crazy as hell
Still remember that game show song lol funny shit
Hey man, I'm from the same area and remember all of this vividly. I'm 32 now and grew up in Tilbury. Where were you at?
@@jakejutras5420 new hamburg,
I'm out west now
How was that even a argument slim shady LP Eminems first major debut whipes icps whole catalog
"inner city posse got the dog beats icp we got the dog beats"
Esham called it “acid rap”….yeah that Real Life Product!!
Boomin narcotics reel life product in hell I walk with gasoline draws on.
2:43 imagine seeing rage against machine with the Wu-Tang Clan that must have been a crazy show
now they're called Rage With The Machine
It was called Acid Rap and Esham was the King. Em started that beef with the Heart Plaza Concert. That shit was intense!! Hot Rocks, Streamers and all them low key spots. I got into with Shaggy for spillin Rock and Rye on My Rockports 😂😂😂
I was at that Rage/Wu show in Philly. Didn't Wu get kicked off the tour at that Illinois gig?
I met biz in dallas back in 2009/10 and he was the most chill coolest dude ever.
Dude was saying anything he could to try to get Bizarre to talk some shit but Bizzare didn't take that bait
EastSideHoesAndMoney is the DET GOAT
RIP TNT
Not really an ICP fan, but Great Milenko is that shit.
He has some of the facts backwards....the ICP contest was happening UPSTAIRS in Saint Andrews Hall.......Eminem and Trick Trick were in the basement at thr Shelter shooting the "Welcome to Detroit City" video.
I remember reading a little bit of icp's book, the first few chapters were so heartbreaking. It wasn't my book so I couldn't keep it and continue reading it but hopefully I can find that book one day and buy it. It pretty much explains their childhood, how they grew up and how they became ICP.
It's an amazing book I recommend grabbing the audio book of it my friend ❤
I was at eshams last concert in Virginia with I.C.P. and after the show caught him in a closed restaurant waiting on my ride and had the honor of meeting him and chilling with him for a little while. He was the most down to earth cool ass dude I've ever had the honor of meeting like that. Still have all autographed shit from him
Shoutout VA juggalos 💯💯 #434
In 2002 I opened for esham in Toledo. Good times!
Liar
@@doknox also a liar
@@NCCalvin9 why would I lie? Esham ain't anyone big enough to lie about opening for. Also opened for bizarre, obie trice, saint dog from kmk, and 2live crew around the same time though. A buddy of mine opened for tech nine. It's not hard to get gigs if you know people and know how to talk like a normal person. Lol.
I appreciate B keeping it neutral with his replies despite the subtle shots at ICP and Esham in this clip
Proud to say the entire reason I'm a fan of all the hip hop artists I fuck with is because of ICP. They introduced me to the genre when all I knew was blink-182 and disturbed n shit. If I never fucked with ICP I'd have never branched out in rap as a listener.
Same here
30 years here. whoop whoop
When I worked for psychopathic records 3 things happened. 1. Eminem pulled the unloaded gun on the Dale Boys. 2. Eminem bumped into us heading into the air port and hid behind 5 bodyguards. 3. I personally was going to approach Eminem at the cow palace in Anaheim on the family values but was told to step back.. instead I littered the show with icp cds and flyers.
They didn't want me to do it tho they wanted peace.
Northern California and Memphis were the two biggest Horrorcore scenes.
Texas and New York had horrorcore too.
Easham a hip hop *legend*.
He’s right haha. I’m 37 and the massive horror core scene I knew as a teenager has died. Q strange was probably the best and least recognized horrorcore artist the have done it.
What about suicide boys? Or is that considered another genre?
l.u.cipha was amazing
Whatever happened to Necro?..I'm 41 and remembered listening to his crazy rhymes thinking this motherfucker is nuts
U should peep tha UK drill scene .. tha bars are basically horror core but tha beats got that drill bounce
The amazing thing is with retrospective sight. ICP and D12 are not that different of a family
Y'all ain't never seen a road south of 10 mile
And that shit ain’t The D Flatout
There's actually a ton of super young Juggalos. They've gone viral so many times. These kids love that stuff. I'd even argue that a lot of the older folks outgrew them, and the youngsters are carrying the torch.
I'm a 43 year old juggalo
Dam!! Same Brother MJL ❤
On Kayfabe Commentaries You Shoot (wrestling interview) ICP said Proof was the one to act as a go between them and Eminem to squash their beef and ended with them all going bowling together.
Esham that's the dude. I live right down the street where he grew up .
im 37. that kinda hurts that you nailed it
Lol I'm 37, love Em, D12 and ICP, Esham... so does my 16 yr old daughter 🤣
@Fanny on my face this is an example of when years of drugs catches up to a person.
@Fanny on my face Can tell you forgot to use your, very very thick bottle glasses. She doesnt look like 57.
Peter S. Bizarre has one of the most distinct styles and voices in the history of the rap game just super grimy I loved it when I 1st heard it on Devils Night
same here
I was really looking forward for Bizarre's parts when Devil's Night was about to drop. I had heard him on Amityville, Under the Influence, the DJ Butter - Kill the DJ mixtape (No Rubber, a nasty-ass track) and I think I had "The Underground EP" as mp3's on my computer. He did not disappoint, that much was clear halfway through Nasty Mind!
Zero talent ZERO
The first time I ever heard of ICP was because of Eminem. Then in high school I knew a lot of people who were juggalos, but didn't think much of it until I asked some of my friend if they had ever heard of ICP and they all said no. So that's when I looked them up
ICP won the feud with “nothing but a bitch thang” that shit is 🔥
Eminem is not from Detroit he's from Warren Michigan but D12 was some real serious dudes in the streets Em got down with em too when things got thick he was never soft he always had heart im from the D Mack Ave to be exact Eastside what up doe
There are tons of younger juggalos. Those old 37 year Olds had kids haha
3:25 I want to know more about one shot two shot I mean is there any truth to that or was it just a song
We need an Eminem ICP collab for 2023. One, it shows beef can be petty and end, two, I want to hear them all work together on a track, especially old school Slim Shady and Insane Clown Posse doing the wicked style they both did back in the day. Maybe even feature Cage since him and Em had their beef as well. I think ICP and or Cage would do it, but I don't think Em would. Would love to see it happen though.
Hard pass
Eminem dont have the ability he had back in the day. He's washed up and sold out. Eminem now sucks.
Gay
@Cap God Not just me, your mom told me last night she wanted this too.
I was def on the icp side growing up but like Star Wars and Star Trek I secretly loved both.
Im not an icp fan.. but they have a few gems in their huge catalog.. assassins, fuck the world, haloween on military street, spin the bottle, crazy click ft 3 6 mafia.. and a few others.. and to be honest id fucking love to go to the gathering of juggalos.. never been..
25 year old lover of icp up in here, major Juggalo love!
I know people probably think I’m crazy but I really think Eminem and ICP should work together. Just ONE time! Im a juggalo and I was def a Stan during Em first run, just want to hear them create some crazy wicked shit. Idk if Em would really look down on them anymore, he doesn’t really diss them when he does name drop them. they both have a deep respect for the old school pioneers of hip hop. And obv they all from Detroit.
I feel like even if they were both open to the idea, neither party would want to reach out to the other 😅
Last year J said he’s confident an ICP x Eminem collab will eventually happen. It would certainly be interesting.
I am only 30 and a Juggalo I was 14 when I lived through most of the beef heard all the dis tracks both sides you know what made it great is it kept them evolving their styles glad Proof helped crush the beef
Ps I might not be into Eminem's solo stuff but I did get into his D12 work
Devils Night was Eminem wicked Shxt. Old school ICP, Esham and Twiztid are the best in Horrorcore rap
What do you hate juggalos Kev?
English please
@@phettywappharmaceuticalsll8842 dog fart
He walked in on a juggalo tossing up his spouse.
I like icp, I was listening to ICP when I was a teenager. I listened to all types of music when I was younger.
Biz should’ve joined ICP. All his shits their style.
can you say swagger jacker
"I forgot what happened" Bizzy a real one, respect
The juggalos are still coming we got younger people I’m only 28 been down for id day 15 years always kinda liked it but got heavy into it right before high school for sure the wildest live shows I’ve ever been to, and ya not all of us are bad like all groups/ fans but we got love for all who’s open to it and what not whoop whoop mmwcl
In high school my homies fell deep into the juggalo world I didn’t. The music was pretty cool from time to time tho.
I've always hung out with Juggalos and word was, someone in ICP's camp had Em's CD in his car and either ICP, or a friend snatched him out and he got jumped.
Clown shit. No pun intended
The truth is Eminem put out a flyer advertising his show and had "and maybe ICP." on it.
For some dumbass reason ICP took real offense to that and basically told Eminem to go fuck himself because of that. Thats where it starts.
They made a lot of money. Gained loyal fans. But I always wondered would they take that one back. Em blew up. Would have been better to have an ally, then made an enemy.
Back in 2002 I met Elliott smith 15 years young with icp shirt on I had both d12 and Eminem cd I played for him isn’t that some shit lol 😂
@@sarahrayne4808 Did you for real meet elliott?? what was he like hanging out with?
@@Equinsu_Ocha69 yea I did it felt like an interview we talked about astrology and stuff like levitation he was like a older brother to me yeah he was ok but got mad at me for telling him who I was lol I think he thought I was older but yeah isolated incident he brought me to his place
Take a shot every time the interviewer says the word :obviously'...
I tried to get the children interested but apparently they're too woke or wholesome... cause it's the world we live in... cause its the world i know
This dude trying so hard to sound cool, hating on ICP. Knowing damn well he listens to it low-key. Can't subscribe to haters is just how I feel
ICPs "Dont Hate Me" was a funny ass song
Hell yeah funny 😂👍
Sounds like one of two situations:
1) it's two dudes who know rap and know a little ABOUT ICP and are just talking about shit they don't understand
(Examples "Psychopath records", interviewer mentions faygo, Bizarre randomly responds "the gathering")
or 2) Interviewer is only very vaguely aware of ICP etc. and Bizarre is very aware but is holding back defending juggalos for some weird reason
...I acknowledge it might also be some third thing I didn't think of..
This was just how I saw it..
Juggalos of all ages bro.....bc us old juggalos in our 30's and up are not making random songs spike in popularity bc of Tik Tok. One of those songs as a single randomly went gold and ICP are NOT SINGLE driven ARTISTS.
Rock & rye faygo is cola mixed with cream soda, and it's bomb!!
None of this is possible with out ESHAM
Bros tweak I’m 21 and been a juggalo since I could remember and ik a few other yungins yunger than me that be bumping they shii🔥
🚫🧢
bizarre low key a juggalo