Does One Race Or Nationality Produce More Criminals? This Was On National TV In 1958

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  • I am amazed that this program ran on national television in 1958. National Educational Television. The speaker was an extraordinary man who met and interviewed many criminals including the Nazis after World War II. It profoundly affected him and he made this program less than a year before he committed suicide leaving no note (more on this below).
    The presenter is Dr. Douglas Kelley. He grew up in San Francisco and was a straight-A student and an Eagle Scout. In 1942 he was called to duty in the United States Army Medical Corps as chief psychiatrist for the 30th General Hospital in the European Theatre.
    When World War II ended the Allies prepared to prosecute leading Nazis for their crimes before an International Military Tribunal. Dr. Kelley, a psychiatrist serving in the Army, was put in charge of evaluating the arrested Nazi leaders' mental states to determine if they were competent to stand trial. He came to the trials to find out what made the Nazis tick.
    Kelley conducted extensive interviews, analyzed samples of handwriting, and administered Rorschach inkblot tests to the prisoners. He evaluated the mental state of former Reich Labor Leader Robert Ley and after said "People did not want to believe that the potential to act like a Nazi could exist in them or their neighbor."
    Kelley authored the book The Case of Rudolph Hess. He concluded that Hess suffered from "a true psychoneurosis, primarily of the hysterical type, engrafted on a basic paranoid and schizoid personality, with amnesia, partly genuine and partly feigned".
    In this television program, Dr. Kelly is very bold in his examination of race, ethnicity, prejudice, superiority, and what he suggested could be done to improve the situation and reduce racial prejudice and increase civil rights equality in the criminal justice system.
    Without any warning Kelley committed suicide in front of his wife, father and oldest son on New Year's Day 1958 (shortly after this film was made) during a family gathering to watch the Rose Bowl game on television. He died by ingesting potassium cyanide as had Nazi leader Hermann Göring, whom Kelley had come to know during his psychiatric evaluation at Nuremberg. According to Psychology Today, Kelley was alcoholic and despondent by that time and had a "history of dark moods"; he had also expressed admiration "for Göring’s control over his own death". Neither his son nor wife could shed light on the motivation for the suicide. In an interview, son Doug Kelley said: "He was cooking dinner, burned himself and exploded. The next thing we knew, he was on the stairs saying he was going to swallow the potassium cyanide & that he'd be dead in 30 seconds". He did as threatened & died in the bathroom, leaving no suicide note.
    A 1958 San Francisco Chronicle story wrote that Dr. Kelley brought the potassium cyanide back from Nuremberg. But his wife and son say he had so many different medicines and concoctions in his home laboratory that he could have gotten the poison anywhere. His son recalled that he connected with Goering as a person. In his book, he expressed admiration for Goering "for taking his own life at his own convenience and in a manner of his own choosing."
    His son Doug Kelley was 10 years old when Kelley killed himself and remembers that time. His father exploding in rage in the kitchen of their sprawling Kensington home. His father on the stairs with the vial of white powder. His father on the floor, jerking and foaming, his eyes wild. His grandfather trying to pour water down his throat. The ambulance. But all these years later, Kelley still doesn't know why his father did what he did, in front of his family, on a day that seemed no different from any other day.
    Doug told the San Francisco Chronicle that newspaper accounts have not reported the whole story. He has some of the memorabilia his father took from Nuremberg, some of it too bizarre for explanation. Inside a flat yellow Kodak box is a series of X-rays of a head that is labeled as Adolf Hitler's. There is a typed and translated copy of Hitler's will. He has small packages of chocolates and cookies carefully wrapped in writing paper, on which Rudolf Hess asks Kelley to check if his guards have been poisoning him. Dr. Kelley also had, for some reason, many letters from Goering to his wife
    Goering wrote a note to Dr. Kelley. "I regret your departure from Nuremberg as do the comrades confined with me. I thank you for your attempt to understand our reasons." . For Doug Kelley, what is left of his father are boxes and boxes of psychiatric evaluations and notes that show what was in the minds of Nazi leaders and local murderers and kidnappers.
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  • @orionfl79
    @orionfl79 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    And to think, its 2023 - 65 years later and in some states its now practically illegal to have a conversation like this in an academic setting.

    • @jc918a-32
      @jc918a-32 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Who would have guessed that the answer to fight racism was more racism? Huh!

    • @orionfl79
      @orionfl79 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@jc918a-32 Its kind of hard fight racism if you're not even allowed to talk about it and learn the topic from different points of view.

    • @larryb982
      @larryb982 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jc918a-32 so you view the film as racism?

    • @tbird81
      @tbird81 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@larryb982 Stupid question. Everything is racist now.

    • @ghandigreen
      @ghandigreen ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jc918a-32 You lost a few brain cells by missing the point when everyone else got it.

  • @Jamestele1
    @Jamestele1 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Dr. Douglas Kelley seemed like a compassionate academic, who really wanted to see a kinder world. I hope he's resting easy - what a loss. He could have been a great bridge between the old and young generations, had he not committed suicide and lived through the 60s.

    • @thejourney1369
      @thejourney1369 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I had to go look him up after you said this. So sad that he couldn’t see his way out of his darkness. He had so much to offer the world.

    • @waterhead1027
      @waterhead1027 ปีที่แล้ว

      d

  • @10yrs.istillcantthinkupawi11
    @10yrs.istillcantthinkupawi11 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    His ability to discuss such matters without the faintest hint of condescension is admirable

  • @kerrygold6494
    @kerrygold6494 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    David Hoffman always puts up some of the best videos. Happy new year to David, and may we be indulged with many more videos in 2023.

  • @woecel
    @woecel ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Pretty eye opening to think that this is essentially the same conversation being conducted today, nearly 70 years later. I imagine a similar program being broadcast today would face almost as much pushback as it did back then (as evidenced by some of the comments here).

  • @numba2bvi
    @numba2bvi ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I like how he’s explaining peoples views and generalities when it comes to color , race etc.
    Just an overall acknowledgment of how everyone sees everyone, pretty neat.

  • @JWF99
    @JWF99 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Wow! This was alot to take in, being the 1st time watching it, the footage was facinating from beginning to end, and Dr. Kelley himself, including his impetuous and inexplicable suicide right in front of his family! I'd have to really think about all of this some more before I comment any further! Thank you again David! You certainly give interesting material to ponder! ✌

    • @luciehanson6250
      @luciehanson6250 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Apparently there's more in the description. But, gee friend, sometimes Hoffman knocks it out of the park!

    • @JWF99
      @JWF99 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@luciehanson6250 he sure does dear Lucie, and this one's a real doozie imo! ✌

    • @luciehanson6250
      @luciehanson6250 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@JWF99 doozie wonderful word!

    • @JWF99
      @JWF99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@luciehanson6250 haven't used it in awhile! Just felt right! Lol😂 "Doozie" don't know if I've ever spelled or typed it? 😉✌

    • @DemonratsRevil
      @DemonratsRevil 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you had to watch this video to learn these facts, please don’t ever vote.

  • @funkknob
    @funkknob ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "911 emergency...?"
    *"Help I've been robbed!!!"*
    "Did you see his blood type?"

    • @kenjisakaie6028
      @kenjisakaie6028 ปีที่แล้ว

      They would still have the picture.

  • @jameshughes3014
    @jameshughes3014 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I can understand a lot of things, but I can't imagine what life must have been like for this man. I'm only thankful that this message has persisted and is now online to be preserved.

  • @theisisreincarnate
    @theisisreincarnate ปีที่แล้ว +13

    He probably created alot of enemies & descent in academia with his views that were well beyond his time . He clearly pointed out how prejudiced everyone is & that pressure from his industrial peers probably led to his suicide 😪😪😪 . Great video ❤

  • @ngls
    @ngls ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I like the fact that he talks about Germany and accidentally marks Poland on the globe... 4:05

  • @jr4062
    @jr4062 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Human nature is finding fault with differences. Star Trek and twilight zone stories were good examples. If it isn’t color, it will be height, weight, beauty, etc. anything to fund fault with.

  • @thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921
    @thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Off the charts great, and we must look backwards to a enlightened generation that fought the good fight of equality and fairness. This was great David, and i pray others see it as well.

    • @nobilismaximus
      @nobilismaximus ปีที่แล้ว

      “AN” Enlightened not “A” enlightened generation. Back then they were taught correct grammar not as elitism but as a basic form of education, education which is not related to any race type but as a function of being correct

    • @thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921
      @thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nobilismaximus The English language is evolving.

    • @ptournas
      @ptournas ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nobilismaximus True about back then. Now elitists use their knowledge to point out minor errors and typos to feed their need to feel superior to others.

  • @kgs2280
    @kgs2280 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was wonderful, David. Thank you. It’s really amazing that this was actually aired on TV in 1958. It was only a year later when my family moved from the Midwest to Florida, and I remember being stunned, even as a child, to see “Colored only” signs in public. Fortunately, that wasn’t allowed too much longer, but there were still segregated schools and neighborhoods. I never understood it, as I had grown up in a military area where I went to school with kids from all over the world, so that had seemed a perfectly normal thing to me as a kid.

  • @stevenshumate3430
    @stevenshumate3430 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Wow, sending this out. Very interesting seeing such a discussion from that time.

  • @mustangnawt1
    @mustangnawt1 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Speechless after watching followed by reading the description. I also would like control over when I pass. For many reasons which are based mostly in fear of pain, being useless for too long, or falling into an abuser situation somehow. But can’t ever see myself doing it anyway but alone. Then again, no one will truly ever be in that man’s shoes. He wanted to fight for others, all others.
    A beautiful heart inside

  • @drewpall2598
    @drewpall2598 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I find this interesting that this program got aired on national television in 1958 I don't think the blame falls on anyone race, or nationality for producing criminals. I would say the environment in which a person is brought up has a lot to do with it. As far as Dr. Douglas Kelley suicide goes perhaps his state of mind at the time had a big part in it. Thanks David Hoffman this was fascinating it get you to think about human behavior.

    • @p4rt_t1me_g0d
      @p4rt_t1me_g0d ปีที่แล้ว

      It's been definitively proven that poverty accounts for the amount of crimes that occur in any given environment.
      So yes, you are correct in your assumption.
      Your second assumption isdebatable, only in that there are crimes committed by people who have had every conceivable advantage in life, as well as the opposite.

  • @10yrs.istillcantthinkupawi11
    @10yrs.istillcantthinkupawi11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "The Devil invented Germans" ... I'm dead. There's no way those weren't paid actors on that tape

  • @party4keeps28
    @party4keeps28 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This channel always has incredible content.

  • @deeznuts8659
    @deeznuts8659 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Wow. That mans story is heartbreaking and insane

  • @formisfunction1861
    @formisfunction1861 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That poor neighborhood in the film is called the Lower Bottoms, in West Oakland. I recognize the neighborhood from my wife's long tenure in Velocity Circus at 9th and Pine. The Lincoln Cinema shown used to be at 7th street between Campbell and Peralta. There is now a parking lot filled with Burning Man type art projects. I drove through that neighborhood many times from 2005 to 2008. Some of it looked exactly as it does in that film. A few houses were fixed up beautifully in the Bay Area "Painted Lady" style. Where the film begins, at the corner of Wood and Atlantic streets, is now underneath the post office distribution center. Atlantic street no longer exists, buried entirely. The area is still an African American Ghetto. In one of the richest and most technically advanced parts of of the world, we could have done, and should have done much better.

  • @M4TCH3SM4L0N3
    @M4TCH3SM4L0N3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Wow David, you really had me going there for a moment! It's still shockingly common for people to make the claims debunked so thoroughly (if problematically) by this segment.

  • @mikedrop4421
    @mikedrop4421 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As an American of Irish descent I try to explain to my black friends that my family didn't own slaves. We were too busy being starved to death ourselves. This video is amazing. I bet this guy would be so excited to see how far it LOOKS like we've come and then be heartbroken to learn deep down we're still horribly divided and discrimination is baked into everything. Ugh..

    • @naitthegr8131
      @naitthegr8131 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      idiot, there definitely were irish planters and irish overseers who worked for planters. not only that but there were definitely white irish people who hated black people. see the new york draft riots. just because your family didn't have planters doesn't mean they cared a thing about black people.

    • @holyhex6520
      @holyhex6520 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      In the mid-19th century the Irish coming to America were seen as lower than black slaves. It is a history that doesn't get talked about a lot.

    • @naitthegr8131
      @naitthegr8131 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@holyhex6520 there were no white irish who wanted to become slaves though and in new york during civil war irish felt such a way about blacks that they went after and attacked and murdered as many blacks as they could

    • @kameralkutie5594
      @kameralkutie5594 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So, what’s your point? You would think since the Irish went through slavery that they wouldn’t have blacks as slaves, but they did.🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @skeletorlikespotatoes7846
      @skeletorlikespotatoes7846 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@kameralkutie5594and you would.think that freed blacks wouldn't have slaves but they also did 😅

  • @nathanielgreer2764
    @nathanielgreer2764 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Amazing. We have come a long way but have al long way to go.

    • @jc918a-32
      @jc918a-32 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do we?

    • @nathanielgreer2764
      @nathanielgreer2764 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@jc918a-32 yes

    • @jc918a-32
      @jc918a-32 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nathanielgreer2764 we haven't changed at all. People has just learned not to show the new ugly. And we will never change. Racism is inherent to all human beings. It's part of the package of being able to notice patterns and choosing not to close the eyes before them

    • @nathanielgreer2764
      @nathanielgreer2764 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Black Lesbian Poet I wouldn’t mind. It is a city I am very fond of.

    • @andreabrown4541
      @andreabrown4541 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who exactly is "we"?

  • @TheSeptuagint
    @TheSeptuagint ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Your channel is like a library of important American culture

  • @K.J.734
    @K.J.734 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Thank you, Dave, for another great vid.
    There are more than a few ways to manipulate stats & unfortunately it is still being done. Films like this one are indispensable in the fight against racism. It's important to show that efforts were made & people of all backgrounds have put themselves in harm's way in this battle. Thanks again for delivering yet another gem. ✌️

    • @ash3rr
      @ash3rr ปีที่แล้ว +2

      fight against racism? i'd prefer a fight for truth rather than some ideological position.

    • @icycooldrink6085
      @icycooldrink6085 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@ash3rr I'm not sure I see the distinction.
      If we are all equally human, and racism identifies a group of humans as inferior based on arbitrary criteria, then a fight for truth is a fight against racism.

  • @nissi.k
    @nissi.k ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Thank you for this David, as disturbing as it is. I too find it difficult to believe that this was ever broadcasted. It is astoundingly prodigious, brilliant, and brave! Studying, researching, compiling, writing, and presenting such a work would be devastatingly draining I think and too much for one mind and soul to bear. It really saddens me to know that he came to such an unhappy end and that his family met with such a traumatic disaster and loss.
    I wonder if there was any backlash from corporations who sponsored this broadcast or from special interest groups, clubs, or the general public? I cannot see there not being any because it’s huge wake up call when too many like to sleep in an apathetic or complacent self induced coma or a deluge of distraction. Perhaps he reasoned that because it would cause great grief of a different kind to his loved ones that the buck stopped with him and he could not go on. Of course i am merely speculating as my being percolates with what it has just encountered in the video and in your very thorough description notes.
    I think it is so right that you have shared this and I would hope that it is shared far and wide and people would examine themselves and how we have allowed ourselves to be so conditioned to note more differences than similarities in humankind.
    My prayer as always is that I can love more and that indeed all of us would put love in its rightful top priority position in all we think, do and are.
    🙌 denise

    • @MicahScottPnD
      @MicahScottPnD ปีที่แล้ว +1

      People often ask, "what is 'woke'?" You have provided an excellent definition here. It's a person who doesn't "like to sleep through life in a coma or apathetic state..." (How you said it above, not my paraphrase.)
      Also, what a fantastic prayer you have!

    • @nissi.k
      @nissi.k 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jamie.777 Excuse me!! Did you even watch this entire documentary?

  • @EstraNiato
    @EstraNiato ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Thanks for the document, your channel is really a gold mine. In my opinion racial prejudice has roots into the natural self preservation instinct - where an animal reacts with fear and hostility towards anything that looks different from the group he grew in or experienced before. Like with every other irrational behaviour education and rationality is really the only path - to the rational mind racism appears for what it is, an irrational behaviour, often used to manipulate people, to make things worse.

    • @memphisakan4691
      @memphisakan4691 ปีที่แล้ว

      Plzz racial prejudice is unnatural. Tribalism rather is. Racism thrives on lies. Its not a natural instinct. Racial superiority is a European enlightenment era belief. Still today race science persists in Academia

    • @brawlpups3517
      @brawlpups3517 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not a counter thesis but how social groups based on exploitation divide the spoils. All for us, non for you. The war between materialism and spirit. Dr .Kelly saw the structural and propagandistic problem but suicide indicates that he did not reflect sufficiently and maturely on a non material solution. Karmically about his deep association with the most extreme presentation in the counter thesis of Nazism. The war between light and dark. A shadow play of the heart.

  • @selph8278
    @selph8278 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hopefully this doesn't upset TH-cam's policies. Great respect for you sir.

  • @johngripper
    @johngripper ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Circled Poland when he was talking about Germany

  • @74455776
    @74455776 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent- not surprised that it was on public television and not on ABC/NBC/CBS. It's very rare for advertiser or subscriber-funded television to air such direct and fearless analysis and confront discrimination and hatred based on race and culture? And, of course, the TV documentary has nearly disappeared, so...

  • @suzukibn1131
    @suzukibn1131 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pretty forward thinking for the time. I remember getting Weekly Readers in grade school. Current events and other newsworthy and cultural articles. One had an article that was “anthropological”. It showed different head, face and body types that illustrated the most typical for criminals. Wow. Just wow.

  • @larryb982
    @larryb982 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thxs for the upload. Found it to be very interesting.

  • @jamesmccarthy5086
    @jamesmccarthy5086 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Man I wish he didn’t commit suicide. Maybe he should’ve been more worried about himself over others. Maybe he had some of the issues that the nazis did and just couldn’t control it. There’s a lot of irony in it but maybe he just got too wrapped up in it. I wonder what he said about Albert Speer

  • @matthewfarmer2520
    @matthewfarmer2520 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi there David Hoffman 👋 thanks for sharing the video 📸

  • @peaceseeker9927
    @peaceseeker9927 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very good for a 1958 television show. I never knew about this until now. I want to know more about what Dr. Kelley wrote on this topic; he obviously had inner struggles that led to his sad ending not long after he recorded this show.

  • @RetreatHacker
    @RetreatHacker ปีที่แล้ว

    Possibly one of the most engaging films you've posted, thank you for another window into our history!

  • @lizisshortforlizard
    @lizisshortforlizard 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is incredibly progressive for the time and this man talks about race and prejudice better than most sociologists today. Thank you for sharing this!

  • @greyone40
    @greyone40 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    From the book, "The Badge," by Jack Webb (1958 even!): "From an ethnological point of view, Negro, Mexican, and Anglo-Saxon are unscientific breakdowns; they are fiction. From a police point of view, they are useful fiction and should be used as long as they remain useful."
    So I am not sure what the man in the film meant with using blood types as identifications. This is useful for a forensic analysis, but for an eyewitness identification (description of the suspect) it is not useful at all. You can't say that you saw a person with blood type "A" running from a crime scene.
    This is an interesting film, and I hope it doesn't get taken down. It surely supports the argument against prejudice, and that any generalization of any defined group is useless when considering an idividual.

    • @rascta
      @rascta ปีที่แล้ว

      You're almost there.
      Yes, it's easier to say you saw someone of ethnicity A running from a crime scene. So easy, in fact, if you've been conditioned to believe that people of ethnicity A are naturally criminals, that you'll automatically look for them, see one, latch onto that, and never notice the actual criminal who's standing right next to you, because he's your ethnicity.
      Meanwhile person of ethnicity A was running because there's a crime going on and they don't want to be a victim - or worse, accused of it by people who assume their ethnicity must make them the criminal.
      Ethnicity is no better an indicator of criminality than blood type, which is to say, no good at all and potentially misleading. That's the point of the blood type bit. It's so obviously nonsense, equating it with ethnicity = criminality and even better showing it as superior because it doesn't involve prejudice, just points out how bad the ethnicity assumptions are.

    • @greyone40
      @greyone40 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rascta I'm not sure why you replied to my post, but I will note that an observation is not an assumption.

    • @rascta
      @rascta ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@greyone40 I replied because your post made me think. Which is good. For some reason, I wanted to share those thoughts. And yes, you are correct that an observation is not an assumption. Or rather, it really shouldn't be. In reality however, many people will make an assumption based on on observation. We're kind of trained to from birth. And I think that's exactly what this video is trying to point out.

  • @FishfaceSnes
    @FishfaceSnes ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This video is very important

  • @IronCandyNotes
    @IronCandyNotes ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "The English... are they human?" written by a dutch man. Laughed way too hard at that. ~ Homo perfidos albinos

  • @boreopithecus
    @boreopithecus ปีที่แล้ว +4

    4:02 That’s Poland, not Germany.

  • @suyci
    @suyci ปีที่แล้ว

    I just want to take a moment to thank you for this and all the other videos you've posted. It's giving a great insight into human intellect in a way I could otherwise have never dreamed of.

    • @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker
      @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your comment. If your resources allow, I would sure appreciate your using the THANKS button under any of my videos including the one you have commented on. It is something new that TH-cam is testing and would mean a great deal for my continuing efforts.
      David Hoffman filmmaker

    • @suyci
      @suyci ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker Once I have the means I will definitely support your works. For now I am just spreading the word as much as I can. I am going to start my own youtube channel in a couple of weeks and I give credit where credit is due.
      Like this video. It has confirmed to how important it is to get to know your "enemy" in order to understand life and society. I hope I can make stories that can convince people of that fact.

  • @stevenqbosell
    @stevenqbosell ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Dr. Douglas Kelley story is fascinating there’s a book named “The Nazi And The Psychiatrist” by Jack El-Hai he gives a few lectures on the subject here on TH-cam, truly gives great insight

  • @1_Divinity_1
    @1_Divinity_1 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    *Some* people didn’t watch the whole video lol.

    • @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker
      @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker  ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I wish they would. I found him interesting from start to finish whether or not I agreed with him or whether things have changed from the point of view of statistics.
      David Hoffman filmmaker

    • @SinistralEpoch
      @SinistralEpoch ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker This video is going to get the wrong crowd of folk on it, tbh. Even if they do watch the video, they won't understand what he's saying. "But my statistics say otherwise," will be the response.

    • @famus801
      @famus801 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I did it was amazing

    • @luciehanson6250
      @luciehanson6250 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker Divinity is wrong, and inflammatory. I was amazed at what I was watching!
      Got me going, I believe his intent.

  • @californiavirus3566
    @californiavirus3566 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2:56 I find it interesting that headlines like this stopped existing for a long time, and they've returned in an inverted form. I hate racialized news. It's so dishonest.

    • @jc918a-32
      @jc918a-32 ปีที่แล้ว

      True! I'm so against Coulter's Law on Main Stream Media! I wonder why it's still a thing, as racist as it is

  • @Contessa6363
    @Contessa6363 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Really interesting David very progressive for 1958!😄👍👍

  • @southend26
    @southend26 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Same conversation we're having now with a lot of people.

  • @luciehanson6250
    @luciehanson6250 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks! OMG! WOW! I'd missed this film, heavy!

    • @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker
      @DavidHoffmanFilmmaker  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much Lucie It is amazing to watch this guy and what he says and that he said it so long ago.
      David Hoffman filmmaker

  • @MomentsInTrading
    @MomentsInTrading ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My name is Sergeant Joe Friday. My partner is Detective Bill Gannon.

  • @Slythin
    @Slythin ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks!

  • @dutchdenson8156
    @dutchdenson8156 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I find the notion that there was racial equality prior to the invention of the cotton gin hard to swallow.

    • @suyci
      @suyci ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Take a look at the Roman and Greek periods then. All they talked about were "barbarians". They just hated everyone who wasn't Roman and were done with it, skin color didn't matter. So there was racial equality but not actual equality.

  • @terriblyhonesttom1874
    @terriblyhonesttom1874 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I tend to think the easy proof is offspring viability. Can two slightly different creatures mate, and create a viable and fertile offspring.
    If the answer is yes, then the two are inherently the same.

    • @kgs2280
      @kgs2280 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s an interesting theory when you consider that it has recently been proven that Neanderthals and Humans (homo sapiens) mated and produced offspring, and many people today have been discovered to still have Neanderthal DNA in their ancestry even though they look completely human, as did the Denisovans (early proto-humans in Asia) and Humans. This was discovered because of all the DNA testing going on now. So, would you say, therefore, that humans and Neanderthals are inherently the same? Honestly, I’m not sure what to think, because how could they have mated and produced offspring in the first place? (Well, the mating part I understand, but offspring?). We’re all descended from apes, but apparently something changed in Neanderthals to allow them to produce offspring with humans, which apes can’t do.

    • @rascta
      @rascta ปีที่แล้ว

      Not so easy when there are laws against miscegenation and/or strong societal pressures causing both groups (and possibly others) to shun a mixed family. Viable or not, people raised under worse conditions are likely to have worse outcomes - not inherently the same. Which sadly reinforces the whole situation.
      Logically, rationally, you're correct. But reality is much messier and more complicated than pure logic and rationality. Fairness or rightness is only one small piece of the puzzle of life. I've learned that as I've gotten older.

    • @skeletorlikespotatoes7846
      @skeletorlikespotatoes7846 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wrong.

  • @seventhtenth
    @seventhtenth ปีที่แล้ว +4

    provoke those thoughts!!! thank you David!!!

  • @barryneil69
    @barryneil69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Race/criminal statistics are hard to find these days. I wonder why??

  • @dolph3711
    @dolph3711 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I never watch videos but am dam glad I did this time.I didn’t learn anything new but glad the blind may see for the first time,that we are all one.

  • @shkumagonnowee212
    @shkumagonnowee212 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a salient piece of documentary insight and it would have been good to have further input from such a mind.
    Examining the psyche of nazis and trying to justify the unjustifiable for trial reasons must have affected him. No reasonable person could dive to the depths of those lunatics and come out unscathed.
    It is extremely difficult to empathise with psychopaths and not be altered in some way. Without a firm grasp or anchor on ones entry point it is a risky endevour and some struggle to find their way out again. I suspect this may have happend to him, truly tragic and ultimatley, completely unfair...

  • @annawan2518
    @annawan2518 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My grandfather once said that there is good and bad in everyone and race.

  • @DemonratsRevil
    @DemonratsRevil 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The fact this was aired on television is proof we have not always been a country of fools who refuse to educate themselves.

  • @fretnesbutke3233
    @fretnesbutke3233 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm convinced that we'll understand the entire universe before we understand ourselves. Bigotry still dwells just beneath the surface of our society. This isn't all that old. From infancy we have falsehoods subconsciously implanted and then spend decades having life experiences strip them away,and not just about race,but also about faith,money,sex.. What's perplexing is how the view of the Family of Humanity always walks side by side with bigotry,even at this late date when we should know better. The other disturbing matter is the prevalence of scientific illiteracy. When someone sets out to opine on evolution,too often they show that they don't have any grasp of the subject. Race is a very recent development in a very new animal. Now with the massive gains in genetics we trace ethnicity by haplogroups. The word "race" was abandoned many decades ago by anthropologists because of its imprecision and scientific irrelevance.

  • @cherylcallahan5402
    @cherylcallahan5402 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    *David Hoffman (Does Race color etc cause more criminals? No appreciate your videos Listening 🌟 from Mass USA TYVM 💙 David*

  • @apocalypticbean
    @apocalypticbean ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cultures certainly do which lead to lack of accountability and apologists of such cultures are the most wretched of scums. Many such cases

    • @Baalur
      @Baalur ปีที่แล้ว

      Cultures don't appear out of thin air. Race matters whether we like it or not.

  • @holyhex6520
    @holyhex6520 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Crime demographics were a bit different back then. Current per capita crime statistics (at least in the US) is interesting. Types of crime is definitely split by economic status and family upbringing. There are some types of crime that are per capita disproportionate by race, but it does always boil down to family upbringing, culture, and economy, not fundamentally based on race, even though it really does appear that way solely based on the numbers.

  • @toddclark332
    @toddclark332 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can only imagine what things that you have seen and dealt with and observed and I thank you so much for sharing at the sir

  • @anatorres-ym8ke
    @anatorres-ym8ke ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Something happened to my people in the 1970ss blacks started being jailed twice as much for drugs that they didnt bring over from nicaragua...this made the stereotype even worse

  • @BADD1ONE
    @BADD1ONE ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Skin color is not a race

  • @andreaskolling3749
    @andreaskolling3749 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:15. Dr Kelly speaks over Germany but marks Poland on the globe.

    • @random832
      @random832 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He highlights Poland as a place where they hate Germans

  • @OMProductions81
    @OMProductions81 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing. Dr. Kelly was obviously ahead of his time. Shame that he saw no way to stay and continue to share his thoughtful and well presented message about the oneness of the human family.

  • @kaneja
    @kaneja ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is incredible thank you for posting. Do you know where he got that tape he played from? I would love to hear the entire clip, learn the reason why it was made.

    • @Mister_Listener
      @Mister_Listener ปีที่แล้ว

      I wondered the same thing, and quickly my brain went to imagining the voiceover session for it!! One of the voices reminded me/sounded like of Dick Van Dyke.

    • @kaneja
      @kaneja ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Mister_Listener I think the voiceover session was done specifically for this video.

    • @kgs2280
      @kgs2280 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kaneja I agree. I noticed that everyone on the tape had the “Mid-Atlantic accent” that was so popular in movies, radio and TV in the 1940s and 1950s (and it required being taught, as it’s not really a natural accent from anywhere). The good doctor himself spoke the same way. Makes me wonder if perhaps he had an aspiration to be an actor, or a radio or TV announcer, or at least a voice-over artist, as those professions were the primary ones using the training. I find accents and dialects fascinating, and was recently watching a YT video about the Mid-Atlantic accent.

    • @kaneja
      @kaneja ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kgs2280 Those were definitely trained actors given scripts to read. The entire premise is fascinating. They walk into the studio and get handed all these racist sentences. I know they were like, you want us read this?????

  • @TheGelasiaBlythe
    @TheGelasiaBlythe ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh, believe me - I know your ethnicity, all right. And I never have to see your face, just your blood.

    • @jc918a-32
      @jc918a-32 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spare me some AB, g ôy

    • @TheGelasiaBlythe
      @TheGelasiaBlythe ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jc918a-32 I see far, far more than A, B, and O. And what I see tells me a LOT more than blood types (and this is, of course, putting aside the probable ethnicities based entirely on ABO types and their frequencies in populations).

  • @bigdonnie57
    @bigdonnie57 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another excellent fine.

  • @jonohoffman5034
    @jonohoffman5034 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is shocking how un-racist this is given the era it came from. Absolutely surprised me the things it did not state as straight fact

  • @danschneider7531
    @danschneider7531 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When he said he circled around Germany, he really circled Poland. Interesting error given all the Germans did to the Poles in WW2!

  • @L.argemike
    @L.argemike ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing video, needs to be shown in times square on a giant board, full volume

  • @geraldking4080
    @geraldking4080 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kurt Vonnegut's novel and film, Mother Night, might explain his death a little. American spy and Nazi radio propagandist, Howard W. Campbell Jr.,(Nick Nolte) is saved from hanging with Eichmann when OSS reveals the secrets behind his broadcasts. Yet, he hangs himself in his cell that night. Mother Night (Kali) brings peace for those who can't find it here.

  • @ECLECTICMELANIN7
    @ECLECTICMELANIN7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing this ! 17:34

  • @jonbutzfiscina1307
    @jonbutzfiscina1307 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He was ahead of his time. It seems he suffered from guilt.

  • @patriotking5991
    @patriotking5991 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thx for the video I find it madning how ppl are judged off of their skin color as a 17yr old black person myself I'm going th honest with u some of the things he said was some of the stuff I saw and went through in my day to day life I always wondered why my ppl were bitter and why life seemed so hard and difficult and why I see trash areas all my life the for the video keep spreading the truth

    • @jc918a-32
      @jc918a-32 ปีที่แล้ว

      look up FBI crime stats.
      choose to be the protagonist of your life, not a victim of circumstances/racism/capitalism/what-ever-ism

    • @AnniePA1960
      @AnniePA1960 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your honesty. Always keep your mind open and keep exploring!!

    • @skeletorlikespotatoes7846
      @skeletorlikespotatoes7846 ปีที่แล้ว

      It makes no sense to be bitter

  • @yellowblanka6058
    @yellowblanka6058 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    60-some years and sadly, prejudice still lingers on, diminished, but still hanging on.

    • @Zaque-TV
      @Zaque-TV ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly I think we're united in real life. I think today's news media likes to portray us as divided and prejudiced to get outrage clicks and ad revenue. I've never in my life met someone who hates based on race and I've lived in Georgia, California, Alabama, and missouri.

    • @jc918a-32
      @jc918a-32 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jeez, I wonder why prejudices exists in the first place

    • @yellowblanka6058
      @yellowblanka6058 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@jc918a-32 ....assuming you're not being facetious, it's because the human brain is wired to notice differences to detect possible threats to their "tribe" etc. - it's an evolutionary hold-over. We fear the unknown as a possible source of danger, that's also why people who are more worldly/exposed to more different races and people tend to be more egalitarian and tolerant.

    • @sukunawillstillwin
      @sukunawillstillwin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jc918a-32Ignorance that’s why

    • @andreabrown4541
      @andreabrown4541 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@yellowblanka6058 There is nothing scientific about it. White supremacy is not a science, so pls stop pretending that it is.

  • @lesgrossman4636
    @lesgrossman4636 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    110% it does.

  • @ams1126
    @ams1126 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Life is not new.
    Technology and assessing other ways of living certainly is.
    Just wait another 50 years

  • @eddierushing5416
    @eddierushing5416 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    His suicide is very mysterious. Dr. Kelly truly fell into a hellscape that most people avoid if possible. I view this man's end as a cautionary tell. With wokeness now taking hold identity politics can lead to dangers that plagued this man in the program above. We live in troubling times and the button is pushed on repeat with no end.

  • @PerspectiveEngineer
    @PerspectiveEngineer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, we have been this smart for so long.
    And we are at the tipping point...
    another 100 years maybe, ?
    Five fingers five toes
    You bleed red? Me too.
    You need help, me too.
    Its one world. And it has been
    For a while, brothers and sisters.
    I'm here for you, neighbor...
    Then, lets BBQ what you got?

  • @christineherson1413
    @christineherson1413 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good.

  • @treefiddy5424
    @treefiddy5424 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn I heard this dude died from suicide the year this aired

  • @alicefreist318
    @alicefreist318 ปีที่แล้ว

    "You can't tell by looking!" And we're still arguing about the same crap.

  • @KittyCurioso
    @KittyCurioso ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating

  • @dillonino204
    @dillonino204 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved this video. Only thing is though how does the blood type thing in the end really help? Cause not everyone knows everyone’s blood type do it wouldn’t really be helpful in trying to identify a suspect by blood type when no one knows the blood type just their appearance. Idk maybe i’m dumb and misunderstood something. Aside from that loved hearing him speak on all these matters and reiterate many points i make when discussing race issues with my family. This man’s ahead of most today sadly, where we can hardly even have a civil discussion with anyone about anything controversial and hence why everyone’s becoming less and less understanding and dumber

  • @cryptic8043
    @cryptic8043 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here is a quote from one of the most fundamental founders of America, Benjamin Franklin:
    "And since Detachments of English from Britain sent to America, will have their Places at Home so soon supply’d and increase so largely here; why should the Palatine Boors [Germans] be suffered to swarm into our Settlements, and by herding together establish their Language and Manners to the Exclusion of ours? Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs, any more than they can acquire our Complexion.
    Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionally very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth. I could wish their Numbers were increased. And while we are, as I may call it, Scouring our Planet, by clearing America of Woods, and so making this Side of our Globe reflect a brighter Light to the Eyes of Inhabitants in mars or Venus, why should we in the Sight of Superior Beings, darken its People? why increase the Sons of Africa, by Planting them in America, where we have so fair an Opportunity, by excluding all Blacks and Tawneys, of increasing the lovely White and Red? But perhaps I am partial to the complexion of my Country, for such Kind of Partiality is natural to Mankind."
    Source: reimaginingmigration.org/benjamin-franklin-and-german-immigrants-in-colonial-america/

  • @shanek6582
    @shanek6582 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fbi Criminal statistics they put out each year, you probably have to read between the lines a bit more than a few decades ago but there is definitely some different info in there

    • @mattelliottmusic
      @mattelliottmusic ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's less about race and more about poverty, poverty that has gone on for generations. You can't just look at a single statistic in isolation and draw a conclusion from it. If you had any kind of qualification in statistics or science, you'd know this.

    • @jc918a-32
      @jc918a-32 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mattelliottmusic taking house income and family structure into account, B families are WAY more prone to homicide than W families. i.e. the poorest neighborhood W family has way less probabilities to host a criminal than the richest neighborhood B family

    • @shanek6582
      @shanek6582 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mattelliottmusic lol, I was born and raised in some of the poorest counties in Appalachia, you can't hand me that BS. Stealing copper wire, selling pills and illegally digging ginseng and goldenseal on state forest land is a FAR cry from gangbang murder. I'd bet you anything the poorest families in the NYC projects have a higher income than the poorest families in cocke county TN or Mingo county WV.

    • @brianadams3189
      @brianadams3189 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shanek6582 I would be interested in seeing if there is a higher number of missing individuals, per Capita, in those small counties. Maybe, just maybe, some of those missing were actually murdered and the body hasn't been recovered (ya know, what with all the state forest land).

    • @shanek6582
      @shanek6582 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brianadams3189 lol, I have thought about pre-digging some holes out there just in case.

  • @trlyons761
    @trlyons761 ปีที่แล้ว

    The whole video was interesting, except that last part about blood type. Lol
    I mean how would blood type identify a person who is wanted to the public or even the police until after you capture them? The simple fact is that when trying to identify a suspect you can tell by looking and identifying a suspect by a description.
    He said some other crazy stuff after bringing up blood tests but still an interesting watch.

  • @munkypark2560
    @munkypark2560 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So is this the age of revenge? There's a lot of baiting going on.

  • @joelmaqueira4851
    @joelmaqueira4851 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting. Too bad this guy and his family had such a sad ending.

  • @pegknife
    @pegknife ปีที่แล้ว +1

    YES,Aussies (Originally Irish)

  • @michaelvitale7041
    @michaelvitale7041 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be great if we had more discussions about race in today's society.
    But in my opinion our country has regressed quite substantially. I sadly consider myself anti-american.

  • @maidende8280
    @maidende8280 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Marxism goes back so far.

  • @formisfunction1861
    @formisfunction1861 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wild!

  • @brunoalvarez1551
    @brunoalvarez1551 ปีที่แล้ว

    Apparently, yes.

  • @geodav5700
    @geodav5700 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol this dude hasnt met any italians yet

  • @TheTwilering
    @TheTwilering ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Look up homicide rates by race and you'll find that not all groups commit homicide at the same rate. These differences persist from year to year too. Obscuring these group differences by not gathering statistics doesn't solve the problem. France, for example, does not collect data on race in their census statistics. They have horrible racial problems. Every year there is a massive arson riot on new years committed by racial minorities. Ignoring the differences, and acting shocked about how people used to talk doesn't stop the riots and horrible rates of crime.

    • @jc918a-32
      @jc918a-32 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ay ay ay notice me senpai

    • @Soopahperry111
      @Soopahperry111 ปีที่แล้ว

      and?

    • @sukunawillstillwin
      @sukunawillstillwin ปีที่แล้ว

      Do the same thing with wars. and then do the same thing again but with gender. and then with poor and rich. and then christian and non christian and then young and old. point is you can take any statistic and claim inferiority or superiority in reality it’s environment that dictates crime not your race or any other thing. anyone who believes in racial superiority in 2022 is rejecting scientific facts

    • @mattelliottmusic
      @mattelliottmusic ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You are missing one important factor, poverty. If you look at wealth distribution you will find that that will perhaps explain the differing rates of crime, because we have extreme wealth inequality among races and poverty leads to crime, including violent crime. Nothing to do with genetics or race beyond how society treats those different races. Looking at one statistic in isolation and attempting to draw a conclusion from it, is not scientific and anyone with any background in statistical analysis will tell you that. .

    • @jc918a-32
      @jc918a-32 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattelliottmusic sadly it doesn't