1899 "Luna Waltz" Played On Mira 18 1/2 inch Concert Grand Console Music Box
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- From the moment I listened to Paul Lincke's lovely, "Luna Waltz" from his 1899 operetta "Frau Luna" I was hooked. I hope that you too enjoy this delightful rendition as played on our 1905 Mira 18 1/2 inch Concert Grand console music box. Thanks for stopping in for a visit and please be sure to stop back again soon.
The holes spinning remind me of those long exposure timelapses of the night sky and the stars. I wonder, if translated to a music box like this one, what our constellations would sound like.
Late reply, but I'm guessing you'd have two celestial hemispheres... you could also vary it by your location on Earth and even do an ecliptic one... what an amazing comment and idea!
The discs are from about 1905. I have been fortunate to have found many very well preserved discs. If steel discs are kept covered and dry they will remain looking like new more than 100 years later. That is the case with mine.
My granddad had one of these. We used to listen to it as kids.
All I can imagine in my head is a glorious, detailed and gilded carousel spinning as the horses glitter, slowly bouncing up and down as the lights shine and flash with this blaring from its core. Gorgeous vibrant colors, smiling children and the smell of fair food in the air. It gives me strong Idora Park carousel vibes 💕💕💕
THIS IS A MUSIC BOX?!?!! I've been collecting and have been pretty obsessed with music boxes my whole life and I've never even heard/seen anything like this! Thanks for sharing. :D
It's metal disc music box. They're different from traditional music boxes.
Me tooo
My journey is just starting as well. Good Luck on finds!
This are expensive as fuck or at least back on the 1870s when only high class people had enough money to purchase this things and have it on their homes. I want one lol but i don't think i can afford it even more than 100 years later LMAO, good job on your collection
not like the typical modern music boxes, these disc music boxes and antique cylinder music boxes are way different.
I really love the sound of these discs! Especially the reverb at the very end of them.
People have mentioned that this beautiful music reminded them of ice cream trucks. Umm, what came to mind also, was the old Childrens' calliopes or carousels in a park. Probably the carousels borrowed the music from the music boxes.
Daisy Flowers You're not totally wrong... the music for the old carousels / merry-go-rounds in the old pre-amplification days (1920s and earlier) was provided by an automatic musical instrument known as a "fairground organ" in Europe or a "band organ" in the USA.
In the early days (1870s and earlier, through about 1910 or so) they generally had their musical program on a pinned cylinder (kind of a large-scale version to that found in cylinder musical boxes, although the barrel organ application dates back at least 400 years earlier than the first musical box), which limited the playing time of each tune, and also made it difficult to change musical programs, and expensive (and heavy!) to have any kind of a "library" of music for the cylinder organ. However, the mechanism for the cylinder organ was very robust, sturdy, and reliable after rough handling, provided care was taken to properly adjust it.
When Mr. Gavioli first patented the use of folding punched cardboard "book" music to program the music in these organs, in 1892, the seeds of change were sown (I think Mr. Gavioli's first production models of these book organs came out about 1895 or so, and the German fair organ makers didn't follow the French Gavioli example until about 1900).
Also, in Germany and the USA, circa 1900, folks were at work developing a way to use paper roll music (like in the player piano) in fairground and band organs. By 1906 the Americans were successful in this (although pinned cylinder organs continued to be built concurrently until about 1915 or so), and by the 1920s many German fairorgans were built using paper roll music as well.
However, most European fairground organs, built from about 1895 to about 1914, used folding cardboard "book" music.
You can find many fairground and band organs using pinned cylinders, folding cardboard books, and paper rolls, on TH-cam. Just search the makers' names plus a few other words like "band organ", "fairground organ", "kermisorgel" (the German term), "orgue de foire" (the French term) and similar.
Makers' names include:
Gavioli, Marenghi, Gasparini, Poirot, and Gaudin in France;
Gebruder Bruder, Wilhelm Bruder Sohne, A. Ruth & Sohne, Gebruder Wellershaus, Frati & Co, and Fritz Wrede in Germany;
Hooghuys and Verbeeck in Belgium;
and
Wurlitzer, North Tonawanda Musical Instrument Works, and Artizan Factories in the USA.
Enjoy!
P. S. I also have several playlists of fairground and dance organs on my TH-cam channel here. Check them out, if you want!
Wow... Thank you for such interesting history of these musical devices. Even after all this time I recognized two names, that are still producing musical instruments. Wilhelm Bruder Sohne and Wurlitzer. I will definitely check out those videos. Many years ago a Great Uncle of mine, had a musical cylinder player, plus the cylinders, that he got out one day, to play for us. It was one of the coolest things I've seen, besides my Mom's old Victrola, with the horn. Geeze, I wish I had these two things today. LOL
The condition is amazing! Though it's just a little bent ahah. I just love how these things work because the sound can't get crackly or old, it sounds exactly how they would have heard it :) and that makes me so happy.
I think the lens of the recording device is responsible for the illusion of curvature.
This is so much better than therapy any day. Very beautiful
beautiful music box ngl🙂😀😃
Listen to that every time when the power goes out
wrong song lol.
its "les toreadors" that plays when the power goes out
This musical box would be perfect for a happy ending to a horror game
"THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH" for taking the time to film these beautiful tunes so that we may also enjoy them!!!! The sound is Heavenly.
Gracias X mostrar esta hermosa máquina y sus hermosas canciones ...
truly beautiful, I would love to own one of these units, what an enchanting sound. thank you for sharing this with us all.
Absolutely lovely. Thanks for sharing.
Just amazing
Beautiful
Amazing sound from a music box.
Mesmerizing...what a LOVELY RICH SOUND! -THANK YOU ♡
@Nza420 I'm truly humbled by your gracious comment, Nza420. Your great grandfather's music box that you posted on your channel sounds very nice and I would be proud to own it. I own a console Reginaphone and would be pleased to help if you have any questions about yours. Thanks for your comment and for stopping in for a visit.
I Thank you so much for sharing these musical treasures....I have been enamored by music box sounds like these since I was seven or eight years old! Music box Christmas is a favorite album. How Great you get to find and keep safe a great part of yesteryear, no doubt, my Great & grandparents era! (Picture is of My Grandfather [left] in Mexico during a conflict @ 1916 or so...the picture always brings a smile. I often wonder whose idea it was to set up the photo shot in the first place...)
I have also liked Music Boxes since I was a child:). They have a charming Carnival sound like a Carousel ride.
What a charming tune and beautiful music box!
MY dream is to someday own an 18.5" Mira console! What a heavenly sound! Thanks for posting!
Hurrah! What a pleasant and enjoyable sound is the melody played by music-box. Some antique mechanical musical clocks played melodies for each hour just before or soon after striking the hours on tubular bell, chiming bar in case of tall case clock and dome shaped bell or coiled wire gong in case of bracket, wall or mantel clock. Nowadays these types of music-boxes and striking clocks are electronically imitated by some quartz clocks because they contains electronically recorded and programmed circuit board of sound chips connected to speaker. But they can't beat the real music-boxes and chimes.
How wonderful.... big smile. Thanks I needed it.
One day... I saw my first one in 1970's and have thought one day I may buy one... "So Beautiful.."
this is so amazing WOW
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Biggest music box I never knew existed... 😭
They come much larger than this one!
@WinterHaven Thank you! I do appreciate your gracious comments and sharing my vidoes on facebook is a very nice gesture.
Beautiful!
oh this is divine!!! thank you so much for sharing.I just want to waltz around the kitchen ...
Linda caixa! Linda valsa, não a conhecia. Obrigada pelo vídeo.
very beautiful
That’s the biggest music box I have ever seen 😻
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Thank you ,,, so wonderful ... need a repeat control :)
OMG this is wonderful!
i completely love this 😍
@amiedetherese Finding the discs themselves is easier than finding the music boxes since there were many more discs produced than music boxes. Since the discs are steel they were and still are subject to rust. Rust can weaken the disc and its projections which produce the notes in the selection. Thankfully, as you kindly mentioned, most of my collection of music box discs is in pretty good condition.
Always a pleasure to hear your music boxes ! Are you a restorer as well as a collector ? They are in fantastic condition, thanks for sharing !
This is so cool.
Cool
@amiedetherese Thanks for your comments. The Mira music boxes were the Cadillac or Rolls-Royce of music boxes in their day and the console models were the top of the line. Therefore, the console models were primarily targeted toward upper class society as they were very expensive. Interestingly, the Mira music boxes were produced by the best music box and clock makers in the world, Switzerland - yet these boxes are rarely found in Europe. Nearly 80% of Mira box output was destined for USA!
This tune makes me wonder if this was the basis for the song "once upon a dream" used in Disney's Sleeping Beauty. The tone and speed have almost the exact same feeling to me.
What a fantastic music box.. and the discs as well! I understand that they're old, how exactly did you manage to get your hands on the pieces in your collection? Any interesting stories or odd ways that they've found you? I'd love to hear!
ICE CREAM TRUCK !
Yes it does remind one of the Ice cream truck. Perhaps ice cream trucks borrowed the idea from these beautiful music boxes.
Steel Fury I think it’s the same song
Oh
Carousel!
Sin palabras
It sounds like something from FNAF
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Musicboxboy, can you tell me/us the proper pronunciation of Mira: Is it "Mee-ruh" or is it "My-ruh"? Many thanks.
Most people pronounce it as My-ruh but either pronunciation is acceptable. Thanks.
Wow! Is this as big as they get? I've seen a 13-inch Polyphon but ... Thanks for sharing.
@Nza420 I responded to your comment here by personal message to you. Good luck!
I found frau luna on spotify. I what Movement/number must I select to find this piece ?
1. Ouvertüre
Musicboxboy, can you tell me/us the milieu these beautiful console music boxes would have been found in back in their day? Was this something for people who were fairly educated and well-off or did others have access to them?
this int´s a music box this is a music circle
lol
@MusicBoxBoy i actually would like to know if there are replacement parts (i.e. the rubber rollers on either side of the tractor mechanism) that are worthy of using on this machine. I have bought parts for other machines that were supposedly up to the task, but not really worthy and probably more detrimental in the long run... This is one of the only things I have to physically connect myself to my ancestor who, incidentally, was a Civil War veteran as well.
No, Don Jones 2014, music boxes were not used on merry-go-rounds. Their combs are only loud for a coffes hop. The merry-go-rounds had automatic pipe organs, which could be heard blocks away, and evolved hundreds of years earlier than the music boxes, which came with one cylinder in the early 1800ds, whereas the models with hundreds of changeable discs came just before 1900, but were almost completely out-competed by gramophones and player pianos around 1920. The importer, to Sweden, of my box and discs gave up in bakruptcy already 1905. But they sound as excellent as when made, in 1895. And will probably sound well after 500 or a thousand years. Whereas the music media of my life time will probably be inaccessible: phonograph cylinders, 78's, vinyl's, steel wire dictaphones, tape rolls, cassettes, CDs, DVDs and computer memory sticks.My first CD player functioned one year, the drive rubber bands of my vinyl and cassette players have withered off, after some decades. My magnetic tape recordings have smeared over the sound to the nearest windings, becoming echo chambers.My last car had to be scrapped after 15 years, in lack of spare parts. Though I acquired the same named model of two years later, hardly any parts of my earlier car could be used as spare parts on my next: not headlights, metal wheels, window washer etc. To use my roof rack, i had to buy new fittings for 250$. Insidious planned short-life from the modern and scientific producers!But the music box makers of the 1800ds were in a clock maker tradition, that made clocks to function at least 500 years, and put this craftmen's pride into the music boxes, with a function future of around thousand years. My cylinder box from 1827 also sounds perfect, including changing the cylinder position, for more than one tune.Greetings from Sweden, Roland von Malmborg, Saltsjöbade.
Hey, I have a question you might know the answer to.
Are disk music boxes like this one still being made today? and if so, for how much?
@MusicBoxBoy Thanks for your very informative answer. Are the disks still around generally in good condition? Yours are pristine, very beautiful.
Scary merry go round music O_O Clowns :( MEAN CLOWNS OOOOOO_______OOOOOOOO
Еще бы одну дорожку для сопрано и либретто))
Those Nights At Fredbears Music Box. OMG!!!!! (ʘᗩʘ')
Is it just me, or does the opening few bars of the first theme of this 1899 waltz sound like the first few bars of the chorus of the 1910 Jean Schwartz song, "Chinatown, My Chinatown"? Of course, that tune is in 2/4 while this is in 3/4, and that tune is better known than this one today, but I'm just sayin'...
Were these used on merry-go-rounds?
No, Don Jones 2014, music boxes were not used on merry-go-rounds. Their combs are only loud for a coffes hop. The merry-go-rounds had automatic pipe organs, which could be heard blocks away, and evolved hundreds of years earlier than the music boxes, which came with one cylinder in the early 1800ds, whereas the models with hundreds of changeable discs came just before 1900, but were almost completely out-competed by gramophones and player pianos around 1920. The importer, to Sweden, of my box and discs gave up in bakruptcy already 1905. But they sound as excellent as when made, in 1895. And will probably sound well after 500 or a thousand years. Whereas the music media of my life time will probably be inaccessible: phonograph cylinders, 78's, vinyl's, steel wire dictaphones, tape rolls, cassettes, CDs, DVDs and computer memory sticks.My first CD player functioned one year, the drive rubber bands of my vinyl and cassette players have withered off, after some decades. My magnetic tape recordings have smeared over the sound to the nearest windings, becoming echo chambers.My last car had to be scrapped after 15 years, in lack of spare parts. Though I acquired the same named model of two years later, hardly any parts of my earlier car could be used as spare parts on my next: not headlights, metal wheels, window washer etc. To use my roof rack, i had to buy new fittings for 250$. Insidious planned short-life from the modern and scientific producers!But the music box makers of the 1800ds were in a clock maker tradition, that made clocks to function at least 500 years, and put this craftmen's pride into the music boxes, with a function future of around thousand years. My cylinder box from 1827 also sounds perfect, including changing the cylinder position, for more than one tune.Greetings from Sweden, Roland von Malmborg, Saltsjöbade.
we're can I get one with dorador march
Como se llaman, específicamente, ese tipo de caja de música?
Has anyone here ever heard of Klonoa? This reminds me of him!
I think this is similar to FNAF 6 ending night 2
Try to do the toreador march :D
Someone else already did it on the same type of music box
th-cam.com/video/y0djpd5DIJg/w-d-xo.html
how does it work
too hot for ice cream on the moon... about 120 degrees Celsius... don't know in Fahrenheit... like some other places of the past...besides Fahrenheit was a Prussian citizen living in Danzig in the end of the 18th century...
C'mon, this should of been fnaf2 ending. I like lullaby waltz but this is better....
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Я прекрасно представляю принцип работы этой шарманки, но я не могу представить как можно было такое смастерить. Вся сложность конструкции заключается не в механизме , а в перфорации "дисков". Мне кажется это тот случай когда "кассета" стоит дороже "магнитофона")))
So I guess that is like fnaf
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do the toreador march
Fnaf 3?
why did you hafe to bring fnaf up
This was before it came out and I appreciate classic music unlike other fans.
@@bengrout4103 *have
why does Chinatown, My Chinatown sound like this?
wow your machine makes mine look like a piece of junk! XD
thats beautiful but not the waltz im looking for
Damn its sounds similar to toreador-
I understand this exact type of music box is where it comes from but they all have a creepy vibe coming from them, or is that just me?
Fnaf 9 music box
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Fnaf alternate universe themesong
MusicBoxBoy, i hate calling "The Garden-Fairies Waltz/Luna Waltz"
I never knew the other was the correct title, so I appreciate knowing this . Thanks
This looks like ants
It's nice and rich but that echo most certainly is annoying as hell.
That’s mean too say that say you don’t like it
Beautiful