I recorded samples of my drumskit because I wanted my signature sound and wanted to use them just like midi (placing everything perfectely on time)...the sound I achieved is great if I listen to each part of my kit separately but It doesn't work when I listen all together, especially with the other tracks of the songs (Guitar, bass, keyboard, voice)...why? It's just a matter of equalization? Pre-amp? Cymbals sound good, snare and tom/floor tom not so much, they have no punch and clarity... Sorry for my english and my no knowledge. Thank you.
There could be a few reasons that that samples don't work together. 1. Check the phase of each sample. Make sure they are all in phase. 2. The key of the samples may be different than the other parts of your song. 3. Often a freshly recorded sample will need processing after recording to get them ready for use in a song. This can include EQ, noise reduction, compression, gain, etc. Otherwise, this task will need to occur during mixing. If you do it once after recording, then you can reuse the samples with more efficiency. 4. In the mix with your song, you will likely need to balance each element relative to the whole of the song. 5. It's important to listen and mix each sound separately, but in the context of the whole. For example, a snare may sound good on it's own. But it may not sound right relative to the rest of the sounds of the song. As you're mixing the snare, you should be listening to it with all of the other parts playing. Hope that helps.
I have a zoom Q2N-4k, I wanted to do this with my drum set, mainly for making mock ups. I'm not looking to get crazy good samples. Just samples of my actual gigging set for simple mock ups. How would you suggest placing the camera? I was thinking just do a good 10-15 hits while placing the camera like a microphone. I'm not using the video. So over a tom like normal, then one over the center of the kit, then maybe out front, and then up in the corner like a room mic. Then finding the best hits for each position and mixing together.
Sorry for the delayed response. I think you would place the camera on a tripod and explore the placement as you described. I would think that experimenting with placement, proximity, angle, and camera settings would be necessary. Depending on the max spl of the camera’s mic, you may need to get further away from the drum kit. It sounds like you have a good idea of the process. Enjoy and have fun!
Hey, thanks for your comment. And thanks for looking for part 2. You are correct, it hasn't been released. The response to this video and a follow up was low, so I had to focus on other projects. It's still a possibility which I may need to reevaluate. Let me know if you have any specific questions in the mean time.
Kontact? I believe NI has some samplers that support mutlisamples. I believe Ableton does as well. I’ve never imported them, but they each have mutlisample support.
@@OllieLoops for sure . excited to see the next part. ive been recording my own drumset this year for the first time . it can be fun and frustating hehehe
Real thorough! Excellent guide!
I specially like how you showed the mics for each part!
Please post Part 2!!!
Thanks. I’ll add it to the list.
Second this
We need Part II!
Thanks. I hear you.
Need that sequel homie
I’ll add it to the queue.
@@OllieLoops thanks man look forward to it👌
I recorded samples of my drumskit because I wanted my signature sound and wanted to use them just like midi (placing everything perfectely on time)...the sound I achieved is great if I listen to each part of my kit separately but It doesn't work when I listen all together, especially with the other tracks of the songs (Guitar, bass, keyboard, voice)...why? It's just a matter of equalization? Pre-amp? Cymbals sound good, snare and tom/floor tom not so much, they have no punch and clarity...
Sorry for my english and my no knowledge. Thank you.
There could be a few reasons that that samples don't work together.
1. Check the phase of each sample. Make sure they are all in phase.
2. The key of the samples may be different than the other parts of your song.
3. Often a freshly recorded sample will need processing after recording to get them ready for use in a song. This can include EQ, noise reduction, compression, gain, etc. Otherwise, this task will need to occur during mixing. If you do it once after recording, then you can reuse the samples with more efficiency.
4. In the mix with your song, you will likely need to balance each element relative to the whole of the song.
5. It's important to listen and mix each sound separately, but in the context of the whole. For example, a snare may sound good on it's own. But it may not sound right relative to the rest of the sounds of the song. As you're mixing the snare, you should be listening to it with all of the other parts playing.
Hope that helps.
PART 2 PLEASE
I’ll add that to the queue. Thanks.
Where's part 2 for processing that was promised? Been 4 years, dude.
Thanks. Time sure flys. There wasn’t much interest from the audience in part two. If enough people demand it, it’s still possible.
I use the e609 on snare it’s pretty good
Great tip. I’ll have to try that.
@@OllieLoops pointed directly at the center, i should note i have a vocal shield behind the mic too
I have a zoom Q2N-4k, I wanted to do this with my drum set, mainly for making mock ups. I'm not looking to get crazy good samples. Just samples of my actual gigging set for simple mock ups.
How would you suggest placing the camera?
I was thinking just do a good 10-15 hits while placing the camera like a microphone. I'm not using the video.
So over a tom like normal, then one over the center of the kit, then maybe out front, and then up in the corner like a room mic.
Then finding the best hits for each position and mixing together.
Sorry for the delayed response.
I think you would place the camera on a tripod and explore the placement as you described. I would think that experimenting with placement, proximity, angle, and camera settings would be necessary. Depending on the max spl of the camera’s mic, you may need to get further away from the drum kit. It sounds like you have a good idea of the process. Enjoy and have fun!
Never got around to the part 2 video? I don't see it.
Hey, thanks for your comment. And thanks for looking for part 2. You are correct, it hasn't been released. The response to this video and a follow up was low, so I had to focus on other projects. It's still a possibility which I may need to reevaluate. Let me know if you have any specific questions in the mean time.
Do you know any plugin that can import round robin multi velocity samples? Superior drummer accepts only one shots. I need it for e drums.
Kontact? I believe NI has some samplers that support mutlisamples. I believe Ableton does as well. I’ve never imported them, but they each have mutlisample support.
Where’s Part 2 ??
Sorry, it’s not out yet. There was minimal interest in the video, but it’s still possible if people really want to see it.
Are you the guy that dub EZ Drum product? Your voice sounds similar
Not the guy.
You are going to get a new phone
This is true.
nice
Thanks!
@@OllieLoops for sure . excited to see the next part. ive been recording my own drumset this year for the first time . it can be fun and frustating hehehe
@@lofimijo208That sounds like fun. Hopefully the video is helpful and you get to make some good samples. Have fun, experiment.
Homie called it a "Slingerton" lol. Great video otherwise though.
Where part 2 ?
Still on the production schedule.