@@ShawnCman you have no idea what your talking about lmfaooo he is hitting the playbook he’s the best #1 overall pick in like 20 years just so happens the #2 pick is playing equally as well
@@jayceejackson3584 Williams doesn’t need extra motivation, he’s got all he needs by winning and the defense backing him up. Watch out Da Bears are coming!
Important fact: Jayden played 5 years of college: Caleb played only 3… That’s a 2 year head start that Jayden is beginning his career with. That fact was not mentioned. I’m taking Caleb 1st for sure… incredible upside, much more durable frame… incredibly fast learner. And yes, I agree both player are can be great.
Jay Gruden is delusional. The guy coached RG3. If anyone should know better it should be him. Jayden is already hurt and it’s not even halfway through the season. Jayden is a good player but it doesn’t matter if he’s on the bench. Plus Jayden may run better than Caleb but he doesn’t throw better than him and which is more sustainable for the NFL…? Although I like Jayden I have to go with Caleb on this one.
@@drewstancill1767 QBR is the most useless stat that's literally ever existed, you can throw a functionally perfect game and still only get a 94. Jayden didn't play against two top ten defenses in his first two games, Caleb did. The best defense he's played is the fucking Giants lmao
I think the Happy feet has calm down a lot for Caleb. The last 3 games. Caleb is also doing more at the line if scrimmage. I think both will be great. But Caleb will be a little better long term. His growth has been unbelievable.
Daniels had 2 ankle sprains and a concussion in 5 years and 55 starts in college. Now he's bruised his ribs on flukey hit and MIGHT miss 2 games. That doesn't seem like much if an injury history.
It's not at all. Everything we've seen to this point suggests that he's actually very tough and durable and not injury prone. It's just that a ton of people pegged Caleb as the better player with the higher ceiling before either player ever played a down, and now that the games are real they have to grasp at anything to call a fatal flaw so they. can "prove" themselves right. This despite the fact that everything we've seen to this point has shown that Jayden is not only the better player right now but also has the higher ceiling. Dude is already elite passing the ball by every metric in every situation and has elite athleticism and rushing ability. Plus he blows Caleb out of the water with his intangibles. Brady, Mahomes, and Aaron Rodgers were all incredible throwing the ball. But Mahomes and Brady had the intangibles and leadership you can't teach and that's what Jayden has. These people would be mistaken to think that doesn't make a big difference in your quarterback.
@@cmyskinsfan Lol keep dreaming. I know having a potential franchise Qb excites you, but that will end when Daniels gets sacked multiple times in one game, he will literally crumble. Unlike williams who is not only damn near impossible to tackle, but he is one tough sob. Good luck though, Commanders are going to need it.
@@KoDoG06 hmm seems like Williams is pretty easy to hit and sack, considering he’s had more than Jayden. Jayden will not crumble. If he could then he would’ve been out of football a long time ago. Caleb hasn’t been tested like he has in the NFL. He needs a perfect pocket and a bunch of all pro receivers just to look decent. He’s not built nearly as tough as Jayden is. Crying in public over losses and going around demanding the diva treatment shows how soft he really is compared to Jayden.
@@cmyskinsfan Williams isn’t whining and complaining about anything, that’s Daniels. We will see who is the coward on Sunday, my money is on daniels tapping out of the game. Good luck tho, you are going to need it.
@@KoDoG06 LMAO! Caleb lost a game and LITERALLY cried for his mommy 😂😂😂. Go look it up! Happened against Washington after he lost a game and it shows how much of a bitch he really is. No dawg in that boy whatsoever! The only thing that’s gonna keep Jayden off that field is the coaching staff. Just pray that your boy doesn’t chip a nail cause we’ll definitely be seeing more waterworks in his mommy’s arms 😂😂😂
For me it’s still too early to tell. But I understand an eval at this point. I think both will be great. I’m biased be I’m a commanders fan but to me they are either 1 A or 1 B. I am concerned about Jayden’s ability to play long term taking hits and executing planned runs. We will see. Maybe he can put a little more muscle one
@@bigdogstatus83 Caleb's last three opponents are 28th, 31st and 32nd in DVOA rankings for defense. The last three defenses Jayden has played are 13th, 17th and 26th.
@@drewstancill1767 and Cummmander back up QB played better than Jayden! Marcus is better than your starting QB. Jayden chickening out and pretending to be injured so doesn’t face Bears Defense 🤣😂
The tape says Caleb has taken some wicked hits and pretty much called it quits because of the punishment he was taking the first few games. He WILL take punishment against GB, Vikings, and Lions. Even if Chi happens to win they aren’t making the playoffs.
Happy feet?! Have you been watching the same games? LOL As a Bears fan, They're both solid QB's and I expect them both to have long careers in the NFL. I'd like to see Jayden not take those hits and get out of bounds or on the ground to avoid them. Those hits will take a toll on his body.
@@ShawnCman I'm well aware as the Bears O-line is not very good. I'm a Bears fan but I root for players to succeed, and I think Jayden will have a longer career by avoiding hits when he can.
Love Daniels, obviously! But I think Williams has the potential to be an elite QB for a longer time based on both QB's style of play. I just worry about the history of the Bears QB curse. And even though I'm a Redskins fan, and everyone is making it a rivalry, I don't see it that way. I'm rooting for both of them except when the Bears play Washington.
I would still pick Caleb still. My viewpoint may change. But I doubt it. They talk about how Jaden Daniels is able to run for 40-50 yards. From what I can tell is that #1 he hasn’t gone up against a top 10 defense. I think best he’s faced is 15 which is middle of the pack. Bears are arguably top 5 defense. I need to see JD perform against a good defense.
Jayden more nfl ready but Caleb has the highest upside for his future . Understands the game and defensive reads better and better overall in the long run
@@drewstancill1767 what ? Caleb is 7-1 in td int ratio last 3 weeks. If you’re including all the weeks Daniel’s stats look better. But both teams never beat a good team yet. Caleb has 10 tds and 2 rushing with 6 ints most from not use to nfl pace first 2 weeks. Pretty close whatever way u think who’s better.
People were discussing who should be the number one pick and who was better or had the highest ceiling before either player had even played a down. It is not ludicrous to have an opinion on this after seeing both players play at the NFL level for a half a season.
“Jayden is more polished in the pocket” bro look at the stats from the pocket between the two and the pass completion rates on the first read and post first read😂
@@drewstancill1767 never said Jayden wasn’t good, but to say you’re taking JD first every time over again like it’s glaringly obvious is just over the top glazing. Both QB’s fit where they currently are best. If we wanted JD in Chicago we would’ve kept Justin Fields, they’re the same style of QB
@@HyperGenesis08 Justin Fields and Jayden Daniels aren't even remotely the same type of QB and anyone who thinks so has no clue what they are talking about lol.. I agree both Jayden and Caleb will be good.. Bears fans are just so insecure about Jayden though, literally every video or NFL reddit game thread has Bears fans whining about Jayden all over them
Jayden has the highest EPA when throwing to any read. He throws to his first read slightly more often than Caleb (about 3 attempts more per game assuming a 30 throw game) but his EPA is .4 higher than Calebs here. But if that wasn't enough, when he throws to his second read or later he ALSO has the highest EPA in the NFL. Jayden isn't gonna just look to his second read when he can throw to his first and get a productive completion. He's gonna throw the ball to the best option regardless of what read it is. And THAT is what a polished pocket QB does. Frankly, the difference in first read percentage is explained by the fact that the Commanders are an awesome screen team and run it more often than anyone in the league. You can tell who actually knows and watches football and who saw a chart on reddit or twitter and decided it meant something lol
Jayden was too similar to Fields, Bears were fortunate to land the #1 forcing the QB change from Fields. Fields got hurt from running, I suspect Jayden will be the same issue
The reason the Bears didn’t keep Field’s was because they new he wouldn’t last long without getting hurt by running so much, that’s why they tried to make him more of a pocket passer, Jaden is thin as a stick, I don’t think he’s 200 pounds? He won’t last long in the NFL without getting hurt allot, trust me…..
I remember all this being said about RG3 over Luck. When Luck left the NFL people were sad. When RG3 left no one realized it. Half the season don’t tell the story. Bears just had a running QB, we want a real QB not a running back that can throw the ball to his first read and if not open run.
@@ShadyAcacia Jayden has the highest EPA when throwing to his second read of later in the NFL. I’d rather have the quarterback who is completing more passes regardless of read, has the better leadership and intangibles, and can elevate a subpar team. Especially over a QB in the bottom half of QBR in the league who is a diva and needs an elite supporting cast around him to look average.
Anyone comparing Jayden to RG3 just never actually watched either of them play and only had a surface level understanding of their skill sets.. Jayden is both a better passer and a better runner than Caleb, that doesn't make him a running QB 😂
Caleb is better already and built for position. Jayden is going to be hurt every season. Nice player but to frail to run so much. He was tapped and missed two games.
"he was tapped"... He literally had a safety and defensive end land on top of him from behind.. most of the QBs in the NFL would have been injured on that play.. Caleb is not better by any metric.. I forgot that Caleb is in the MVP race alongside Mahomes, Lamar, and Josh Allen.. oh wait, he's not and Jayden Daniels is.. you Caleb fans are just so embarrassing 😂
@@drewstancill1767 he was tapped and isn’t built for the position. It was a pedestrian tackle and not a good sign for longevity. Enjoy him when he’s healthy.
Kyler and Jayden are a ridiculous comparison. Kyler can't even see over the line. Justin knows better than that. Furthermore name one quarterback that hasn't gotten hurt. JP an awesome dude but bad take.
@@brandoncrittenden3939 At the same time Caleb doesn’t have the same protection up front that Jayden has. But I agree they are both ballers and the right fig for their situations. Jayden behind that Bears O-Line would have gotten injured in that Houston game, because they couldn’t block worth a damn.
Bears are a better team with a better QB. OC is where Washington might have a slight edge. Chicago Bears #3 Defense Baltimore Ravens #23 Defense big difference
Without Jayden playing, probably.. if you don't beat Marcus Mariota then y'all are frauds.. then again you haven't beaten a good team yet so we'll see I guess
@@drewstancill1767 Even with Daniels they would lose, the bears defense would take him out of the season. It’s wise to bench him against one of the best defenses in the league. On the other hand Williams is catching fire right now and proving he can be a game manager.
Jayden plays with only half the field. He’ll be exposed. He’s Justin Fields lite with better arm talent and because he’s so light, he lends himself to get injured often like Fields. Also, all of Cliffs teams start hot and end up getting exposed with terrible second half records.
This guy jay clearly only watched the first two games talking about happy feet and turnovers. Only thing he was right about was Caleb has a better god given arm talent
@@matthewfocheezy8740 he gets hit a lot because he holds the ball. Concerned about him getting injured taking all those hits and running around in circles behind the line of scrimmage considering how small Caleb is
This guys said Washington’s defense is playing good? 😂 they one good team they played they lost. Bro watch how Caleb dices up Washington’s garbage ass defense. The bears defense is gonna be the best that Jayden has played so far. We will see how he does and we’re missing 2 of our main starters in our secondary but we are still gonna eat Washington
Clearly haven’t paid attention to Caleb then, he’s been completely fine the last 3 weeks. Everyone also said JD was gonna get rocked and get hurt if he kept playing how he was and here we are
@curtisrobinson8167 too bad your boy is hurt. I really wanted to see this showdown. Caleb Williams is my franchise qb. Really don't care about anyone else's qb. Tbh
Lmao at these absolute clowns picking the frail 150lb QB that passes for less tds, and will run himself into the injury report. Justin Fields couldn’t even stay healthy for a single year yet Jayden will running like he does? Give me a break! Never watching this channel again.
You guys are full of crap. You know how I know that? Both said CW played last week when Bears had a Bye. You can tell both of you only looked at highlights and end of game stats. Completely unprofessional. If anyone takes what you said to heart they should be laughed at.
@@drewstancill1767 caleb is way smarter. caleb is 2 years behind jayden and has played in much more advanced offenses both in college and the pros. jayden didnt do anything as a sophomore and junior in college. Caleb won a Heisman and a sophomore. Just imagine if williams was at LSU right now and next year with Nabers and BTJ as his WR's. lol. he'd throw 60 TD's. even now, jayden runs a high school offense with 10 checkdowns and 10 runs a game. the only thing jayden can do that caleb cant is run fast. but jayden is a solid prospect. but i still like williams and drake way more than jayden. marcus mariotta, vince young & RG3 looked good early on in their careers as well. eventually, you cant run 10 times a game. jayden is probably jalen hurts at best.
@@drewstancill1767 daniels had 1 amazing game against cincy who had the worst defense in the NFL at the time. he had 2 passing and 2 rushing tds and a 90% completion rate. i give him props for such a game. however, if you look at all his other games, they are not that special. his complete percentage keeps dropping. he's thrown 4 TD's in 6 other games and averages 225 yards passing. lets stop acting like jayden is dan marino. he's your typical turn first QB that we've seen 20 other times in the NFL. he throws to the right 75% of the time. when he rolls right he throws. when he rolls left he runs. I'm not saying he is a bad QB. he's probably very very good. but lets not make him (or caleb) a top 10 QB just yet.
Before the draft i agreed with the talking heads who said Jayden was too skinny to survive a full season in the NFL playing the way he does... And here we are, halfway through the year and he's got hurt ribs. Somebody was right.
Spiking the football over a minor injury on an awkward tackle is insane. If Caleb got injured next game would we say the same thing? Or does he get a pass because he’s more “quarterbacky” lmao
@@cmyskinsfanEven a guy like can newton wasn't immune to the punishment you can take as a running quarterback. Why wouldn't it be a concern for someone probably playing around 205? There's just not that much impact protection.
@@Keithjhall thing is… that’s exactly what he’s been doing. He hasn’t taken many hits in or out of the pocket. When he’s throwing he’s getting rid of the ball on time and accurately. And when he’s taking off he’s getting the first down and sliding or getting out of bounds. If you watch the games he is very smart when it comes to not taking hits. He is not running like Lamar in the slightest. The injury he took last game was flukey. He wasn’t getting killed, the defender got on top of him as he was giving himself up and rolled up on top of him. Could happen to any qb. I’m not worried about his career. He is not Lamar nor RGIII he runs to take the yards and gets down.
Caleb is talented but I also notice he does have “happy feet” in the pocket as Jay said. He reminds me of a slightly more athletic Jeff Garcia when he played for the Niners. I think CW will be a solid QB but not elite. Sorry Bears fans Jayden is the better overall QB.
You're opinion doesn't determine their fate. I'm sure if Washington drafted Caleb you'd say the same biased nonsense. Caleb is a franchise QB, only time will tell if he's 'elite'. You can't say that about EITHER of these QB's this early in their career. I think they'll both have solid NFL careers.
Caleb walked into a receiving room with 2 pro bowlers and a top 10 rookie talent. Jayden walked into a receiving room with terry McLaurin and a bunch of 4th and 5th receivers. Everyone agreed that the bears were the better situation going into the season. Caleb just hasn’t been as good as Jayden so far. I know that burns some people up to admit it particularly those who are still crowning Caleb based off their opinions before any player ever played a down. But it’s the truth.
The way JD plays is not sustainalbe. He's a less talented Lamar, basically a Skinny Justin Fields. He can't read a full field and the entire offense is predicated on the threat of JD running. It's a gimmicky RPO high school offense. You’re just coping when you say that you would select JD over Caleb, Caleb is an actual real NFL quarterback, not a running back who gets hurt running the ball lol
Caleb is too short to see over the LOS. That's why he runs in circles when he is pressured, he just a midget with a strong arm. He can't just look straight and complete a pass. He threw 4 touchdowns against the weak ssa Jags, 3 traveled no further than 8 yards. Cole Kmet was the star. Sorry your team picked him over Daniels, sorry that the only time he does get mentioned is went EXPERTS/Former PLAYERS express how much better JD is than Caleb. But that's why your team is the Bears (a single SB in 1986). Just wait until your division games start. Vikings, Lions, and Green Bay. 6 losses right there 😂 You better pray JD doesn't play this week.
Stop mentioning the Bears sorry QB's in comparison to JD. What next JD a more mobile Mitch Tribusky? A more accurate Jay Cutler? Casual Bear fan. Be happy you have a decent Qb for once. You can at least act like you've been there before, although you haven't.
yes, I would change the order of QB taken. I would take Drake Maye over Jaden Daniels. but no one should go number one ahead of Caleb Williams he probably even better than advertised
@@drewstancill1767 no they are not. they had their chance to speak up before the draft and never did. now they are all front running. just give it another month or so and they'll pretend they never said theyd take jayden over williams. its typical corporate media nonsense.
I love that all the hype shifting to Jayden. Caleb now has the extra motivation to keep getting better and better.
But Caleb is the #1 pick. He should need no motivation for that. Just get in the playbook and perform.
@@ShawnCman you have no idea what your talking about lmfaooo he is hitting the playbook he’s the best #1 overall pick in like 20 years just so happens the #2 pick is playing equally as well
@@dilanhoffman3960me saying getting into the playbook tells you that I'm speaking ill about CWs ?? LOL, reading is fundamental
@@jayceejackson3584 Williams doesn’t need extra motivation, he’s got all he needs by winning and the defense backing him up. Watch out Da Bears are coming!
Let's hope he gets better because wow that wasn't it 🤣
Let's not forget Caleb is younger . I would pick Caleb number 1 still
Lol no you wouldn't
So JD only has an 18 year career ahead of him instead of 19 orv20 is all goes well for both. I'll take JD. He seems to be the smarter all around QB.
You sure about that?
@@Anthony-1000 really?
😂only by a year @@drewstancill1767
I guess Jay Gruden knows what he is talking about after all!!!! Jayden is way better!!!
Important fact:
Jayden played 5 years of college:
Caleb played only 3…
That’s a 2 year head start that Jayden is beginning his career with. That fact was not mentioned.
I’m taking Caleb 1st for sure… incredible upside, much more durable frame… incredibly fast learner.
And yes, I agree both player are can be great.
Pure cope. Daniels >>>> purse man
Eventually you will be forced to accept your organization made a mistake but I don’t think either will bust.
JD living rent free in Chicago
Jay Gruden is delusional. The guy coached RG3. If anyone should know better it should be him. Jayden is already hurt and it’s not even halfway through the season. Jayden is a good player but it doesn’t matter if he’s on the bench. Plus Jayden may run better than Caleb but he doesn’t throw better than him and which is more sustainable for the NFL…? Although I like Jayden I have to go with Caleb on this one.
Jayden absolutely throws better than Caleb.. better QBR, better EPA, etc.. go look it up
@@drewstancill1767 Delusional 🤪😂😂😂
@@drewstancill1767 QBR is the most useless stat that's literally ever existed, you can throw a functionally perfect game and still only get a 94.
Jayden didn't play against two top ten defenses in his first two games, Caleb did. The best defense he's played is the fucking Giants lmao
@@drewstancill1767😂😂
@@queequegtheater6093literally any stat you want to look at Jayden is more effective than Caleb throwing the ball. Pick any one you like lmao.
I think the Happy feet has calm down a lot for Caleb. The last 3 games. Caleb is also doing more at the line if scrimmage. I think both will be great. But Caleb will be a little better long term. His growth has been unbelievable.
agreed
@@Hutch402 100%
Daniels had 2 ankle sprains and a concussion in 5 years and 55 starts in college. Now he's bruised his ribs on flukey hit and MIGHT miss 2 games. That doesn't seem like much if an injury history.
It's not at all. Everything we've seen to this point suggests that he's actually very tough and durable and not injury prone. It's just that a ton of people pegged Caleb as the better player with the higher ceiling before either player ever played a down, and now that the games are real they have to grasp at anything to call a fatal flaw so they. can "prove" themselves right. This despite the fact that everything we've seen to this point has shown that Jayden is not only the better player right now but also has the higher ceiling. Dude is already elite passing the ball by every metric in every situation and has elite athleticism and rushing ability. Plus he blows Caleb out of the water with his intangibles. Brady, Mahomes, and Aaron Rodgers were all incredible throwing the ball. But Mahomes and Brady had the intangibles and leadership you can't teach and that's what Jayden has. These people would be mistaken to think that doesn't make a big difference in your quarterback.
@@cmyskinsfan Lol keep dreaming. I know having a potential franchise Qb excites you, but that will end when Daniels gets sacked multiple times in one game, he will literally crumble. Unlike williams who is not only damn near impossible to tackle, but he is one tough sob. Good luck though, Commanders are going to need it.
@@KoDoG06 hmm seems like Williams is pretty easy to hit and sack, considering he’s had more than Jayden. Jayden will not crumble. If he could then he would’ve been out of football a long time ago. Caleb hasn’t been tested like he has in the NFL. He needs a perfect pocket and a bunch of all pro receivers just to look decent. He’s not built nearly as tough as Jayden is. Crying in public over losses and going around demanding the diva treatment shows how soft he really is compared to Jayden.
@@cmyskinsfan Williams isn’t whining and complaining about anything, that’s Daniels. We will see who is the coward on Sunday, my money is on daniels tapping out of the game. Good luck tho, you are going to need it.
@@KoDoG06 LMAO! Caleb lost a game and LITERALLY cried for his mommy 😂😂😂. Go look it up! Happened against Washington after he lost a game and it shows how much of a bitch he really is. No dawg in that boy whatsoever! The only thing that’s gonna keep Jayden off that field is the coaching staff. Just pray that your boy doesn’t chip a nail cause we’ll definitely be seeing more waterworks in his mommy’s arms 😂😂😂
For me it’s still too early to tell. But I understand an eval at this point. I think both will be great. I’m biased be I’m a commanders fan but to me they are either 1 A or 1 B. I am concerned about Jayden’s ability to play long term taking hits and executing planned runs. We will see. Maybe he can put a little more muscle one
Jayden passes the eye test.
Commanders have played bottom third of NFL ranked defenses.
@@bigdogstatus83 Caleb's last three opponents are 28th, 31st and 32nd in DVOA rankings for defense. The last three defenses Jayden has played are 13th, 17th and 26th.
@@Scriva85And his ass is injured because he's a running qb. Cam Newton 2.0.
@@bigdogstatus83Caleb hasn't beaten a team with more than 2 wins.. I mean he lost to the Colts ffs lol
@@drewstancill1767 and Cummmander back up QB played better than Jayden! Marcus is better than your starting QB. Jayden chickening out and pretending to be injured so doesn’t face Bears Defense 🤣😂
The tape says Caleb has taken some wicked hits and pretty much called it quits because of the punishment he was taking the first few games. He WILL take punishment against GB, Vikings, and Lions. Even if Chi happens to win they aren’t making the playoffs.
Both seem to be on the right team. Worked out well… I think both fan bases are happy so👍
Happy feet?! Have you been watching the same games? LOL
As a Bears fan, They're both solid QB's and I expect them both to have long careers in the NFL. I'd like to see Jayden not take those hits and get out of bounds or on the ground to avoid them. Those hits will take a toll on his body.
Hits take a toll on anybody. Caleb at one point led the league in sacks.
@@ShawnCman I'm well aware as the Bears O-line is not very good. I'm a Bears fan but I root for players to succeed, and I think Jayden will have a longer career by avoiding hits when he can.
@Keithjhall do you think that goes for every player, including your qb?
@@ShawnCman You're joking right?! Obviously I want Caleb avoiding hits.
Look at all the Bears fans trying to cope in the comments. #HTTC
What a Putz
Love Daniels, obviously! But I think Williams has the potential to be an elite QB for a longer time based on both QB's style of play. I just worry about the history of the Bears QB curse.
And even though I'm a Redskins fan, and everyone is making it a rivalry, I don't see it that way. I'm rooting for both of them except when the Bears play Washington.
Glad non of these guys are running an organization.
Why, basically everyone is saying Jayden is the better QB currently.. even Vegas with both the OROY and MVP odds
I would still pick Caleb still. My viewpoint may change. But I doubt it. They talk about how Jaden Daniels is able to run for 40-50 yards. From what I can tell is that #1 he hasn’t gone up against a top 10 defense. I think best he’s faced is 15 which is middle of the pack.
Bears are arguably top 5 defense. I need to see JD perform against a good defense.
Jayden more nfl ready but Caleb has the highest upside for his future . Understands the game and defensive reads better and better overall in the long run
How can you say he understands the game and defensive reads better than Jayden when he has 3 times as many turnovers? 😂
@@drewstancill1767 what ? Caleb is 7-1 in td int ratio last 3 weeks. If you’re including all the weeks Daniel’s stats look better. But both teams never beat a good team yet. Caleb has 10 tds and 2 rushing with 6 ints most from not use to nfl pace first 2 weeks. Pretty close whatever way u think who’s better.
Good convo, from peeps who actually the game...🐻⬇️
Stupid, so stupid to pick who you would pick with first pick again after 6 games, ludicrous
You don’t trust your own eyes???
People were discussing who should be the number one pick and who was better or had the highest ceiling before either player had even played a down. It is not ludicrous to have an opinion on this after seeing both players play at the NFL level for a half a season.
“Jayden is more polished in the pocket” bro look at the stats from the pocket between the two and the pass completion rates on the first read and post first read😂
Look at Jayden's QBR on blitzes, from the pocket, while scrambling.. they are all amazing... You haters seriously look so dumb with these comments
@@drewstancill1767 never said Jayden wasn’t good, but to say you’re taking JD first every time over again like it’s glaringly obvious is just over the top glazing. Both QB’s fit where they currently are best. If we wanted JD in Chicago we would’ve kept Justin Fields, they’re the same style of QB
@@HyperGenesis08 Justin Fields and Jayden Daniels aren't even remotely the same type of QB and anyone who thinks so has no clue what they are talking about lol.. I agree both Jayden and Caleb will be good.. Bears fans are just so insecure about Jayden though, literally every video or NFL reddit game thread has Bears fans whining about Jayden all over them
Jayden has the highest EPA when throwing to any read. He throws to his first read slightly more often than Caleb (about 3 attempts more per game assuming a 30 throw game) but his EPA is .4 higher than Calebs here. But if that wasn't enough, when he throws to his second read or later he ALSO has the highest EPA in the NFL. Jayden isn't gonna just look to his second read when he can throw to his first and get a productive completion. He's gonna throw the ball to the best option regardless of what read it is. And THAT is what a polished pocket QB does.
Frankly, the difference in first read percentage is explained by the fact that the Commanders are an awesome screen team and run it more often than anyone in the league. You can tell who actually knows and watches football and who saw a chart on reddit or twitter and decided it meant something lol
If you actually looked at the stats yourself you'd delete your comment lol
Jayden was too similar to Fields, Bears were fortunate to land the #1 forcing the QB change from Fields. Fields got hurt from running, I suspect Jayden will be the same issue
The reason the Bears didn’t keep Field’s was because they new he wouldn’t last long without getting hurt by running so much, that’s why they tried to make him more of a pocket passer, Jaden is thin as a stick, I don’t think he’s 200 pounds? He won’t last long in the NFL without getting hurt allot, trust me…..
Jay no need to break it down to idiots let them witness greatness!
I remember all this being said about RG3 over Luck. When Luck left the NFL people were sad. When RG3 left no one realized it. Half the season don’t tell the story. Bears just had a running QB, we want a real QB not a running back that can throw the ball to his first read and if not open run.
@@ShadyAcacia Jayden has the highest EPA when throwing to his second read of later in the NFL. I’d rather have the quarterback who is completing more passes regardless of read, has the better leadership and intangibles, and can elevate a subpar team. Especially over a QB in the bottom half of QBR in the league who is a diva and needs an elite supporting cast around him to look average.
Anyone comparing Jayden to RG3 just never actually watched either of them play and only had a surface level understanding of their skill sets.. Jayden is both a better passer and a better runner than Caleb, that doesn't make him a running QB 😂
So the stats this man is setting not as a rookie but as some of the best stats ever by a quarterback in nfl history!! You are a fool 😂
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Did you know since the Bears hit Sweat we have had the highest turnovers defense and Washington has been the lowest since the trade
Jayden can only throw to the right aide of the field
Caleb is better already and built for position. Jayden is going to be hurt every season. Nice player but to frail to run so much. He was tapped and missed two games.
"he was tapped"... He literally had a safety and defensive end land on top of him from behind.. most of the QBs in the NFL would have been injured on that play.. Caleb is not better by any metric..
I forgot that Caleb is in the MVP race alongside Mahomes, Lamar, and Josh Allen.. oh wait, he's not and Jayden Daniels is.. you Caleb fans are just so embarrassing 😂
@@drewstancill1767 he was tapped and isn’t built for the position. It was a pedestrian tackle and not a good sign for longevity. Enjoy him when he’s healthy.
Kyler and Jayden are a ridiculous comparison. Kyler can't even see over the line. Justin knows better than that. Furthermore name one quarterback that hasn't gotten hurt. JP an awesome dude but bad take.
Dude let's not sit here and act like JD5 has as many weapons as Caleb lol. Anyways both these young men are ballers
@@brandoncrittenden3939 At the same time Caleb doesn’t have the same protection up front that Jayden has. But I agree they are both ballers and the right fig for their situations.
Jayden behind that Bears O-Line would have gotten injured in that Houston game, because they couldn’t block worth a damn.
First time that has ever been said about the bears
@@jayceejackson3584maybe, or maybe he would have escaped the pocket because he is more elusive and athletic than Caleb.. we don't know for sure
The bears lost to the colts.
Bears are a better team with a better QB. OC is where Washington might have a slight edge. Chicago Bears #3 Defense Baltimore Ravens #23 Defense big difference
By no conceivable metric can you call Caleb a better QB lol, what are their QBRs? What about their EPAs? How about their MVP odds or OROY odds?
Bears may be a better team though, they have a better defense
Whats Jayden Daniels injury history?
He doesn’t have much of one. Not sure where all these “injury prone” accusations are coming from.
Nov 4, 2023 Non-NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 1
Nov 26, 2022 Non-NFL Pedal Ankle Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1
Oct 26, 2019 Non-NFL Pedal Ankle Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1
Nothing too serious.
@@hofftipus4132 that's insane with how much football he's played
@@cmyskinsfan just notice how there are no skinny qbs in the league except jayden.
@@bonkezz936Lamar Jackson?
Bears gonna MERC the Commanders, everybody is saying it, everyone knows it. 😂😂
Without Jayden playing, probably.. if you don't beat Marcus Mariota then y'all are frauds.. then again you haven't beaten a good team yet so we'll see I guess
@@drewstancill1767 Even with Daniels they would lose, the bears defense would take him out of the season. It’s wise to bench him against one of the best defenses in the league. On the other hand Williams is catching fire right now and proving he can be a game manager.
Jayden plays with only half the field. He’ll be exposed. He’s Justin Fields lite with better arm talent and because he’s so light, he lends himself to get injured often like Fields. Also, all of Cliffs teams start hot and end up getting exposed with terrible second half records.
Anyone who says this clearly hasn't watched Washington play and only gets their info from Twitter profiles
You need to leave that crack alone. That shit got you tweakin… 😂😂😂
Bears fans really don't know fb...the trolling is horrid and funny 😂
This guy jay clearly only watched the first two games talking about happy feet and turnovers. Only thing he was right about was Caleb has a better god given arm talent
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Show on the field don't talk about it
CW all the way. JD is hurt already. Also the happy feet is understandable in college and NFL. kid been hit ALOT cuz bad OLINE play.
@@matthewfocheezy8740 he gets hit a lot because he holds the ball. Concerned about him getting injured taking all those hits and running around in circles behind the line of scrimmage considering how small Caleb is
Jayden is a coward, avoiding the Bears Defense 😂
Duckin’ Sundays game! Caleb all the way!
Your father is a coward, abandoning you like that
You're acting like the Bears defense is some crazy defense lol, this isn't 1985 my guy
@@drewstancill1767 It’s a top 5 and a very hard hitting defense my girl
@@bigdogstatus83 100%, he’d be out for the season after sweat sacks him 100x in a row😂😂
😂😂 bears fans coping
Caleb Williams is a better qb than Jayden hands down, you clown.
This guys said Washington’s defense is playing good? 😂 they one good team they played they lost. Bro watch how Caleb dices up Washington’s garbage ass defense. The bears defense is gonna be the best that Jayden has played so far. We will see how he does and we’re missing 2 of our main starters in our secondary but we are still gonna eat Washington
Jd is going against weak teams so wait until against a great defense. It's way to early to puff up daniels!
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Naw i still pick caleb
The answer is Drake Maye
Funny thing da bad traits y’all say about JD is wats wrong wit Caleb. #Bust
Stop the hate, nothing about CW gives off bust. It amazes me how so many people say 'bust' 6 games into a players career. It's laughable.
Clearly haven’t paid attention to Caleb then, he’s been completely fine the last 3 weeks. Everyone also said JD was gonna get rocked and get hurt if he kept playing how he was and here we are
@@HyperGenesis08Caleb's last 3 games are 3 of the 4 worst defenses in the NFL...
Bears fans what is yall watching Washington QB is better i guess YALL PICK THE WRONG QB AGAIN 😂😂😂
Why are bear’s fans so mad at JD? It’s not his fault he is better.
No one knows anything. Just watch the game.
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As a Bears fan, I'm very happy. You crazy, bud
@@DaLoganFrostI mean Bears fans are all over the internet whining about Jayden...
They should’ve picked him lmao the jealousy is insane
@curtisrobinson8167 too bad your boy is hurt. I really wanted to see this showdown. Caleb Williams is my franchise qb. Really don't care about anyone else's qb. Tbh
This mofo said he wants Jayden Daniels of Caleb? Stop talking foo… He called Caleb happy feet? Opposed to Jayden? Gtfoh…
Yes, his analysis is correct.. Caleb 100% has happy feet and Jayden does not at all but clearly you've never watched Jayden
@@drewstancill1767 what the fck is happy feet? You coming in using terms that aren’t even used as a stat. Say a stat to make a point.
Lmao at these absolute clowns picking the frail 150lb QB that passes for less tds, and will run himself into the injury report. Justin Fields couldn’t even stay healthy for a single year yet Jayden will running like he does? Give me a break! Never watching this channel again.
Guess they know a little bit better than you huh? 😂
You guys are full of crap. You know how I know that? Both said CW played last week when Bears had a Bye. You can tell both of you only looked at highlights and end of game stats. Completely unprofessional. If anyone takes what you said to heart they should be laughed at.
these guys are always impressed by running qbs.
caleb is smarter with a better arm. the choice is obvious
Caleb is certainly not smarter, not as hard of a worker, nor as humble.. arm talent maybe though
@@drewstancill1767 caleb is way smarter. caleb is 2 years behind jayden and has played in much more advanced offenses both in college and the pros.
jayden didnt do anything as a sophomore and junior in college. Caleb won a Heisman and a sophomore. Just imagine if williams was at LSU right now and next year with Nabers and BTJ as his WR's. lol. he'd throw 60 TD's.
even now, jayden runs a high school offense with 10 checkdowns and 10 runs a game.
the only thing jayden can do that caleb cant is run fast.
but jayden is a solid prospect. but i still like williams and drake way more than jayden.
marcus mariotta, vince young & RG3 looked good early on in their careers as well. eventually, you cant run 10 times a game.
jayden is probably jalen hurts at best.
@@drewstancill1767 daniels had 1 amazing game against cincy who had the worst defense in the NFL at the time. he had 2 passing and 2 rushing tds and a 90% completion rate. i give him props for such a game.
however, if you look at all his other games, they are not that special.
his complete percentage keeps dropping.
he's thrown 4 TD's in 6 other games and averages 225 yards passing.
lets stop acting like jayden is dan marino.
he's your typical turn first QB that we've seen 20 other times in the NFL.
he throws to the right 75% of the time. when he rolls right he throws. when he rolls left he runs.
I'm not saying he is a bad QB. he's probably very very good. but lets not make him (or caleb) a top 10 QB just yet.
Bears fans 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Before the draft i agreed with the talking heads who said Jayden was too skinny to survive a full season in the NFL playing the way he does... And here we are, halfway through the year and he's got hurt ribs.
Somebody was right.
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Spiking the football over a minor injury on an awkward tackle is insane. If Caleb got injured next game would we say the same thing? Or does he get a pass because he’s more “quarterbacky” lmao
@@cmyskinsfanEven a guy like can newton wasn't immune to the punishment you can take as a running quarterback. Why wouldn't it be a concern for someone probably playing around 205? There's just not that much impact protection.
@@cmyskinsfan Wouldn't you like to see Jayden slide or get out of bounds to avoid those hits? He'll have a much longer career. IMO
@@Keithjhall thing is… that’s exactly what he’s been doing. He hasn’t taken many hits in or out of the pocket. When he’s throwing he’s getting rid of the ball on time and accurately. And when he’s taking off he’s getting the first down and sliding or getting out of bounds. If you watch the games he is very smart when it comes to not taking hits. He is not running like Lamar in the slightest.
The injury he took last game was flukey. He wasn’t getting killed, the defender got on top of him as he was giving himself up and rolled up on top of him. Could happen to any qb. I’m not worried about his career. He is not Lamar nor RGIII he runs to take the yards and gets down.
Caleb is talented but I also notice he does have “happy feet” in the pocket as Jay said. He reminds me of a slightly more athletic Jeff Garcia when he played for the Niners. I think CW will be a solid QB but not elite. Sorry Bears fans Jayden is the better overall QB.
😂 I didn't know you are a fortune teller! Can you tell me the winning lotto numbers while you're at it?!
@@bigdogstatus83the winning lotto number is 5, and the commanders picked it 😂
He said He doesn't have happy feet. Sorry Jayden is made out of glass.
@@GraveVibrations Caleb’s feet are so happy he’s dressing up as a penguin for halloween
You're opinion doesn't determine their fate. I'm sure if Washington drafted Caleb you'd say the same biased nonsense. Caleb is a franchise QB, only time will tell if he's 'elite'. You can't say that about EITHER of these QB's this early in their career. I think they'll both have solid NFL careers.
Colt McCoy saying what everybody knows. Kliff Is a better OC and Jaden walked into a better situation for play calling
The bears were a 7 win team before CB arrived there so how is it in any kind a way a better situation than CB?
Caleb walked into a receiving room with 2 pro bowlers and a top 10 rookie talent. Jayden walked into a receiving room with terry McLaurin and a bunch of 4th and 5th receivers. Everyone agreed that the bears were the better situation going into the season. Caleb just hasn’t been as good as Jayden so far. I know that burns some people up to admit it particularly those who are still crowning Caleb based off their opinions before any player ever played a down. But it’s the truth.
Caleb has three WR1's and a top 3 defense. Shut up lol
The way JD plays is not sustainalbe. He's a less talented Lamar, basically a Skinny Justin Fields. He can't read a full field and the entire offense is predicated on the threat of JD running. It's a gimmicky RPO high school offense. You’re just coping when you say that you would select JD over Caleb, Caleb is an actual real NFL quarterback, not a running back who gets hurt running the ball lol
This comment is coping 😂 cry more JD is legit
@@cedc4825 CW is better, Bears win Sunday....
Caleb is too short to see over the LOS. That's why he runs in circles when he is pressured, he just a midget with a strong arm. He can't just look straight and complete a pass. He threw 4 touchdowns against the weak ssa Jags, 3 traveled no further than 8 yards. Cole Kmet was the star. Sorry your team picked him over Daniels, sorry that the only time he does get mentioned is went EXPERTS/Former PLAYERS express how much better JD is than Caleb. But that's why your team is the Bears (a single SB in 1986). Just wait until your division games start. Vikings, Lions, and Green Bay. 6 losses right there 😂 You better pray JD doesn't play this week.
Stop mentioning the Bears sorry QB's in comparison to JD. What next JD a more mobile Mitch Tribusky? A more accurate Jay Cutler? Casual Bear fan. Be happy you have a decent Qb for once. You can at least act like you've been there before, although you haven't.
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No he isn't
yes, I would change the order of QB taken. I would take Drake Maye over Jaden Daniels. but no one should go number one ahead of Caleb Williams he probably even better than advertised
You and only you lol.. while basically all the former NFL players are taking Jayden
Unfortunately God didn't bless you with a brain
@@drewstancill1767 no they are not. they had their chance to speak up before the draft and never did. now they are all front running. just give it another month or so and they'll pretend they never said theyd take jayden over williams. its typical corporate media nonsense.