I have a 2500hd with the 8.1. It’s a ripper up till about 55 mph, even when pulling a trailer. Also should be paired with the Allison which is bulletproof! 278,000 on it and it’s still a beast
I want a 1970s toyato celica, or a 1977 Ford pinto with white Starsky and Hutch stripes and 4 in the floor. Never mind I already have a pinto like that. It's a true chick magnet 😂😂😂
i like trail mater personally but this is a very close 2nd Matt is inspiring how he treats the women and all in his life he only lifts those around him
Like the vanilla Doctor Pepper! What's up with that shenanigan? The grossest Dr. Pepper of them all? What kind of Mtn Dew drinker drinks that? Mtn Dew supply line disruption? :-)
@@knlazar08 I like them. Not a fan of Mt. Dew though. I can taste the orange juice in it. I had a bad experience with over eating oranges as a kid. 🤮 Kinda stuck with me. 😂
Guys, HERE is Our Savior HalleluYAH translates “Praise ye YaH” YaH is The Heavenly Father YaH is Who Created “Man (Adam)” YaH arrives via the TENT OF MEETING YaH was Who they Crucified for the sins OF “Man” ** NO female involved WHATSOEVER ** - Hebrew Book of Isaiah Isaiah 42:8 "I am YaH; that is my Name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols. Isaiah 43:11 I, I am YAH, and there is no other Savior but Me. Isaiah 45:5 I am YaH, and there is none else.
The 8.1 is a great engine. I have a 2002 Chevy 2500hd with that motor. I love it. I have a 91 octane tune on it that really wakes it up. The big difference between the suburban and the pick up is the transmission. The heavy duty pickups come with the Allison 5 speed (2001-2005 or the 6 speed 2006-07 classic) transmission and the suburban comes with the 4l90e or 4l80e. The Alison is a much better transmission. The 8.1 came in large motor homes, U-haul trucks and the heavy duty pickups. It isn’t the best on fuel economy but it is very reliable and has tons of torque for a gas motor. Pulling the fuel economy isn’t that far off from a diesel , not as far as you might think anyway. Empty it isn’t much better than loaded. I love mine and I think you will like it in the wrecker. Great choice Matt.
good afternoon @Matt's Off Road Rec I'm your silence viewer a 11months,, now I'm your new subscriber from the Philippines .. u are a Master Road Wrecker! Builder 👍👍👍👍👍
I had a fleet of those 8.1l Chevy big blocks and I had really no major issues. The drivers beat the crap out of them and they were not treated nice. Though we serviced them regularly every 4000 miles and they were solid.....👍😉
HERE is The Savior HalleluYAH translates “Praise ye YaH” YaH is The Heavenly Father YaH is Who Created “Man (Adam)” YaH arrives via the TENT OF MEETING YaH was Who they Crucified for the sins OF “Man” ** NO female involved WHATSOEVER ** - Hebrew Book of Isaiah Isaiah 42:8 "I am YaH; that is my Name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols. Isaiah 43:11 I, I am YAH, and there is no other Savior but Me. Isaiah 45:5 I am YaH, and there is none else.
Matt the episodes are getting better every time. The people who do the editing process have been taking you're TH-cam channel to a higher level of production.
@@KoltFin yeah I've watched every video in well over a year and I'm thinking of stepping back a bit for that reason and I'm bitter that Rudy is gone without an explanation.
A couple of things you should consider on the 8.1 that will make it breath better and not diminish the low end torque. First and foremost is to remove the intake manifold and delete the internal PCV which is the reason the 8.1 uses oil. If you want more top end, cut the bottom of the intake manifold off and clean out the internal restrictions. This will push that long flat torque curve well past 5000 rpm. In stock form they are done at 4400 on a good day. Long tube headers and a tune will get you deep into the 500s for torque at the crank. You won't be disappointed with any of these modifications and this thing should be good for 300k miles +.
Thanks for all the fun Matt! Suggestion! Add a simple gusset to the top and bottom obtuse angles of that welded Gooseneck. It will add a lot of strength to the Gooseneck and take a lot of stress off of the welds.
I had an 8.1 with the high flow intake manifold. It is well worth the investment, as the stock manifold does not flow very well. Just something to consider. There is a guy out in California that makes all kinds of bolt on stuff that makes the 8.1 a monster.
Yep Raylar as LeRoy said. The guy has a TH-cam channel. I can say in my experience it was a huge improvement over stock. Even the gas mileage got better.
HERE is The Savior HalleluYAH translates “Praise ye YaH” YaH is The Heavenly Father YaH is Who Created “Man (Adam)” YaH arrives via the TENT OF MEETING YaH was Who they Crucified for the sins OF “Man” ** NO female involved WHATSOEVER ** - Hebrew Book of Isaiah Isaiah 42:8 "I am YaH; that is my Name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols. Isaiah 43:11 I, I am YAH, and there is no other Savior but Me. Isaiah 45:5 I am YaH, and there is none else.
I remember a few years ago I had just returned from a trip to Moab, and this channel was recommended to me. It had a little over 30k followers at the time. Now it's 1.11 million. Wow!
An lq4 ls3 can make 600+hp NA on regular pump fuel. Those are solid numbers and extraordinary reliable motors. I cant speak for the 8.1 as I've never built one.
it may be prudent to change out the crank sensor before installation, or consider the location of the sensor when positioning the engine for serviceability (they're roughly a foot long) ; the crank position sensor appears to be the achilles heel of the L18. being an all iron, basically stroked 454, the 8.1's are durable torque monsters.
I love the fact that you are colabing with more of the Utah automotive youtubers. So many talented people and each are very personable. Can't wait to see this come together!
I agree, I really like a lot of LT’s way of building his own truck projects. The Ygly Truck’s 8.1L turbo engine is a real torque monster. It would be great to see a similar one in Heavy Wrecker.
Great Chanel Matt been watching for a while but I don’t know how much longer I can watch you using a death wheel with no eye protection! PPE is no Joke!!!
Matt you took a trooper under your wings, mentor Lizzy the best you can it feels like you are her second dad. Stay safe and thanks for sharing your views. First time I see a group of you tubers going to a wrecking yard
I've been the owner of several GM trucks. I once had a used 3/4 ton GMC with the 8.1 engine (496 ci) with Allison tyranny with 40k miles on it and it didn't tow a medium weight 5th wheel camper trailer very well. And It got less than 7 mpg while towing and 10 MPG not towing and miss-fired a lot and didn't preform well. Found out the spark plugs were eroded. Replaced them and that solved the misfire but it still didn't pull too strong. MPG not much better. Found out many owners had same issues. You may have better luck. The one you found has a turbo charger and that may what you need. But you will need a huge gas tank..! I'm now driving a 2016 Chevy 1/2 ton with 5.3 engine and love it. Bought new. There are two leading engines that RVers highly rate for towing Very Heavy trailers, the GM Duramax and the RAM Cummings diesels.
@@randytravis3998 in an accident, it's amazing how forces multiply. Never assume it will be fine. For the extra effort it would take. It's worth doing right.
@@captaininsano2777 -- I don't think that they considered how the forces are going to react if there is a sidewards load on the trailer tongue... I would consider putting some braces that went from the top of the tongue to the forward corners of the bed of the trailer...
@@captaininsano2777 he explained in another video why he didn’t go diesel and I kinda forget why… but I think it was the instant torque versus a more controlled torque for the sand. But then he talks about possibly adding a turbo to the 8.1. So maybe there is some trial and error going on. 😂
I pulled an RV fulltime for 8 years with an '02 Chevy with the 8.1L/Alison combination. I loved it. It seemed like every diesel owner I talked with doing the same thing had high-dollar repair stories, all I ever did to that truck was a radiator and an intake manifold. Others have mentioned the fuel mileage, but also watch the oil consumption. 1 quart of oil per 100 gallons of fuel oil usage was evidently considered acceptable by GM.
Yes! So glad to see L.T. getting involved with the power train. He's building some cool stuff! The 8.1 will be an awesome build! Marine dock test results speak for themselves on that one!
I like watching your trip from the different points of view based on the different channels, you do have fun. Glad you found the motor, this is going to be cool. Awesome work!
Great choice on the 8.1. When you were talking about some 454 LS version, I was going "You know Chevy made engines that size, from the factory, right?"
Matt, good to see LT Tolman on your show, I follow LT, he knows his stuff about chevys. I hope you and LT collaborate more in the future. Maybe get LT into off road wheel'in.
I was thinking the same thing. You can always under fill a large tank for small jobs. But having that extra headroom for long hauls would be very useful.
Shout out to the whole crew involved in making these videos and getting them out for us to view. Y’all are beasts. The ones in front of the camera. And behind the scenes. Ps: Matt, you’ve made a lot of really great friends and connections. The things your friends do for you, and what you do for them is evidence of some real solid relationships.
LT!!!! He IS the LS guru!!! I'm glad you guys linked up. I follow LT for a little while now and he's nothing short of amazing when it comes to a LS motor. Thumbs up!!!
-- Very pleased in your choice of motor for the wrecker. Watching Robbie's previous video on the junkyard, I thought that 6.0 was going in there. Thing is going to be a monster. Thumbs up.
I think Robbie is going to put a 6.0 LS in both his new Ford off-road tow truck build by Rory Irish and the new Jeep crawler build. Didn't they alsp say he had signed up for two 6.0's? And they said the Ford off-road would be all ford except for the engine.
@@ITubeTooInc -- That adds up, and Matt throwing that 6.0 he has in the Morvair. I was going off something Matt previously said about wanting to throw a 5.3 turbo, or a 6.0 in the wrecker. I wouldn't go 5.3, and 6.0 would be where I would start. To see that monster he's getting for the wrecker now, put a little smile on my face.
@@randytravis3998 -- Having owned 3 XJs myself, if he can cram that thing in there, I'll rename Matt to Wizard. Besides, the stroker he's got in there is pretty new.
I did some math and without at least a 4:1(thinking doubled 205's) transfer case this thing is going to have a lot of wheelspeed even in first gear. Would probably work fine in the sand, but will make rocks and technical stuff a lot more tricky. It does look like you will want an overdrive unless you want that 8.1 humming along on the highway at over 3k 🤣 Just for fun I did the math for a SM465 and a 4:1 transfer case and got just over 1mph per 1k engine rpm. Unfortunately that's a stick with 6.5:1 first and no overdrive. I would love to see you go with a TR4050, it's got good gearing and can handle 600lb of torque in stock form. I'm not too knowledgeable on automatics but you'll need something super beefy or a lot of gear reduction to reduce how much stress it has to take. My guess is you'll get creative with the transfer case and stick with the stock 8.1 transmission Whatever route you take it will be an interesting truck and I can't wait to see it in action Edit: just looked up the first gear ratios on the Allison 1000 (3.10) and the 4L85e (2.85) and hope your transmission is the Allison because it's beefier and at least cracks 3:1 gearing 🤣 you auto guys really don't get anything with deep reduction
I was actually thinking 8.1 when i saw the first video for this. A company i worked for had fully loaded, 1 ton dually, service trucks with 11 foot service bodies and that engine, and they pulled great. We always pulled a scissor lift on a trailer behind us. The trucks couldn't pass a gas station, but they had the power.
Hell yea! Love to see more 8.1 builds. Very underrated motors Btw the real choke point on those motors are the heads. They don’t flow all too well even with work done but aren’t the most horrible. Next thing that goes is the bottom end
Awesome video props to the editor for keeping up with Matt, the 8.1 is definitely a torque monster excellent choice for the Heavy Wreaker, ya'll have great community being involved in one another's projects especially when ya take some friendly advice a dana 44 for the Banana great video God bless ❤😉👍
I look forward to seeing more of LT on the channel. Too bad his built 8.1 isn't done yet. If it was, the current 8.1 in ugly truck might have been available for purchase.
The 8.1 is a great choice, I recommend you make sure you have a working fuel gauge in it Matt, and a large fuel tank, or two.
Or don't... Guaranteed content! lol
3 large tanks at least. Knowing Matt he'll need a screamer to remind him to fill up.
I have a 2500hd with the 8.1. It’s a ripper up till about 55 mph, even when pulling a trailer. Also should be paired with the Allison which is bulletproof! 278,000 on it and it’s still a beast
*cough FIFTY GALLONS cough* 😁
Take the tank out of the burb, I believe it’s a 38 gal tank
The person doing the editing needs a raise, the cutouts of the guests, pin point on the maps, makes it so easy to follow. It’s nice a nice touch
He just got a beautiful Toyota Highlander.
*Toyota 4Runner
@@johnnycash2238 Thanks. I'm not up on my Toyotas :).
I want a 1970s toyato celica, or a 1977 Ford pinto with white Starsky and Hutch stripes and 4 in the floor. Never mind I already have a pinto like that. It's a true chick magnet 😂😂😂
And a Subaru, if I recall correctly.
I love when the Matt's cinematic universe gets together it's like the Utah avengers
"What did it cost?"
Matt: "Everything."
😂😂😂😂😂😂
It's really impressive that you're building this massive, unique, cool looking, completely custom vehicle
So glad you stopped at LTs house to look at his 8.1 in the Ugly Truck. He’s an amazing tech.
Huge props to the MORR editors. Every video feels top quality, and they’re so consistently entertaining. Easily the best channel on TH-cam right now!
DANG...Look at the guns on Lizzy 0:07...Pity any dude that makes her angry.🧐🤧
@@xippzap Lizzy is in excellent shape from all the dancing, outdoors, and mechanic stuff she does. Staying active has its benefits.
i like trail mater personally but this is a very close 2nd Matt is inspiring how he treats the women and all in his life he only lifts those around him
@@accelement3499 Quite literally... 16:00 😁
@@TheRealPOTUSDavidByrd I think she also rides/trains horses. Not easy work!
Jaymie needs an award for putting up with all of Matt's totally insane, but amazing shenanigans and field trips.
Like the vanilla Doctor Pepper! What's up with that shenanigan? The grossest Dr. Pepper of them all? What kind of Mtn Dew drinker drinks that? Mtn Dew supply line disruption? :-)
@@knlazar08 I like them. Not a fan of Mt. Dew though. I can taste the orange juice in it. I had a bad experience with over eating oranges as a kid. 🤮 Kinda stuck with me. 😂
@@knlazar08 right. For me it's pepsi,sun drop,mt dew dr pepper. Any added flavors are nasty
Guys, HERE is Our Savior
HalleluYAH translates “Praise ye YaH”
YaH is The Heavenly Father
YaH is Who Created “Man (Adam)”
YaH arrives via the TENT OF MEETING
YaH was Who they Crucified for the sins OF “Man”
** NO female involved WHATSOEVER **
- Hebrew Book of Isaiah
Isaiah 42:8
"I am YaH; that is my Name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols.
Isaiah 43:11
I, I am YAH, and there is no other Savior but Me.
Isaiah 45:5
I am YaH, and there is none else.
The fundraiser for the all abilities park is so awesome! You're going to make so many kids happy. ❤️❤️❤️
I had no choice other than to donate after watching the video. Seeing children like that happy makes my heart melt.
That Truck Is Going To Be A MEGA MONSTER & WE Can't Hardly Wait 👍👍👍
i feel so proud when i hear someone installs an axle we made. enjoy that Dana axle
I have a 2001 8.1 with 300.000 on it and I still trust driving a trailer from Idaho to las Vegas with a trailer. Great engine.
The 8.1 is a great engine. I have a 2002 Chevy 2500hd with that motor. I love it. I have a 91 octane tune on it that really wakes it up. The big difference between the suburban and the pick up is the transmission. The heavy duty pickups come with the Allison 5 speed (2001-2005 or the 6 speed 2006-07 classic) transmission and the suburban comes with the 4l90e or 4l80e. The Alison is a much better transmission. The 8.1 came in large motor homes, U-haul trucks and the heavy duty pickups. It isn’t the best on fuel economy but it is very reliable and has tons of torque for a gas motor. Pulling the fuel economy isn’t that far off from a diesel , not as far as you might think anyway. Empty it isn’t much better than loaded. I love mine and I think you will like it in the wrecker. Great choice Matt.
Nice to see LT. good collaboration with him on the heavy wrecker. Definitely a guru.
Now that would be a sweet collab. After he gets the motor in gotta definitely boost it!
Boost it.
I love Powernation but I hate how so many guys like him get gone so often.
That Dude that did the Welding on the Trailer Frame did Beautiful Work !
good afternoon @Matt's Off Road Rec I'm your silence viewer a 11months,, now I'm your new subscriber from the Philippines .. u are a Master Road Wrecker! Builder 👍👍👍👍👍
I had a fleet of those 8.1l Chevy big blocks and I had really no major issues. The drivers beat the crap out of them and they were not treated nice. Though we serviced them regularly every 4000 miles and they were solid.....👍😉
HERE is The Savior
HalleluYAH translates “Praise ye YaH”
YaH is The Heavenly Father
YaH is Who Created “Man (Adam)”
YaH arrives via the TENT OF MEETING
YaH was Who they Crucified for the sins OF “Man”
** NO female involved WHATSOEVER **
- Hebrew Book of Isaiah
Isaiah 42:8
"I am YaH; that is my Name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols.
Isaiah 43:11
I, I am YAH, and there is no other Savior but Me.
Isaiah 45:5
I am YaH, and there is none else.
Matt the episodes are getting better every time. The people who do the editing process have been taking you're TH-cam channel to a higher level of production.
But no more Rudy unfortunately :(
Yeah they have made it more entertaining but it also is giving it a not real vibe. (Fake, staged, for lack of better words)
@@KoltFin yeah I've watched every video in well over a year and I'm thinking of stepping back a bit for that reason and I'm bitter that Rudy is gone without an explanation.
@@wilbrod There was an explanation. Rudy has his own TH-cam channel.
@@wilbrod Y'all know that Rudy has his own channel now.
A couple of things you should consider on the 8.1 that will make it breath better and not diminish the low end torque. First and foremost is to remove the intake manifold and delete the internal PCV which is the reason the 8.1 uses oil. If you want more top end, cut the bottom of the intake manifold off and clean out the internal restrictions. This will push that long flat torque curve well past 5000 rpm. In stock form they are done at 4400 on a good day. Long tube headers and a tune will get you deep into the 500s for torque at the crank. You won't be disappointed with any of these modifications and this thing should be good for 300k miles +.
Lizzy is so cute and has some great welding skills super 😍😍😍😍😍
8.1 will do it. Blower will do it mo betta!
Matt theres ALWAYS room for a turbo. Excited to see the heavy wrecker come to life! MORR team is killing it!
If there is not room in the front, you can always put 1 or 2 at the rear of the exhaust. That's what's all the cool kids do...
This is awesome!!!! I thought for sure that Matt settled on a 6.0L.Seeing him working with a legend like L.T. is even more awesome-er....😁😁👍👍💪👊🙌🙌🙌🙌
Thanks for all the fun Matt!
Suggestion! Add a simple gusset to the top and bottom obtuse angles of that welded Gooseneck. It will add a lot of strength to the Gooseneck and take a lot of stress off of the welds.
Thought the same thing about adding gussets to those welds.
So glad someone mentioned this. Heavy braking or backing up will twist / damage that gooseneck hitch extension.
Add a tube from the top of the front wheel hoop to the top miter on the square tube hitch
Best video and Lizzy looked great. Good work Trever
5:33...
Holy crap... Look at view. Dude..
That's awesome.
I had an 8.1 with the high flow intake manifold. It is well worth the investment, as the stock manifold does not flow very well. Just something to consider. There is a guy out in California that makes all kinds of bolt on stuff that makes the 8.1 a monster.
I had to private message tucker to recommend the 8.1, its the perfect motor for the build!
Does it change the powerband location at all? Or is it just more torque everywhere
Do tell. I need names. I’m on the east coast but would love some other options for my 8.1 suburban.
Raylar Engineering! The Cool Gap
Yep Raylar as LeRoy said. The guy has a TH-cam channel. I can say in my experience it was a huge improvement over stock. Even the gas mileage got better.
That wrecker is going to be cool. I love the morvair. Things that are different are the coolest ones!
I'm super excited to see this wrecker in action, it's gonna be epic! And big props to Tucker, he is a master editor!
Keep up the great work!👍
HERE is The Savior
HalleluYAH translates “Praise ye YaH”
YaH is The Heavenly Father
YaH is Who Created “Man (Adam)”
YaH arrives via the TENT OF MEETING
YaH was Who they Crucified for the sins OF “Man”
** NO female involved WHATSOEVER **
- Hebrew Book of Isaiah
Isaiah 42:8
"I am YaH; that is my Name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols.
Isaiah 43:11
I, I am YAH, and there is no other Savior but Me.
Isaiah 45:5
I am YaH, and there is none else.
Wholly cow, that was a months worth of video. Really enjoyed this one.
Buckmaster Johnny just keeps getting cooler. Milling Machines, dirt bikes, Alaska. Will he adopt me?
Ask LT Tolman about his C10 from highschool
I remember a few years ago I had just returned from a trip to Moab, and this channel was recommended to me. It had a little over 30k followers at the time. Now it's 1.11 million. Wow!
The 8.1 is such an underutilized engine. You see 5.3 and 6.0 swaps everywhere yet the 8.1 rarely gets to shine. Such a good platform.
I was saying get the new gas 6.6 or the ford 7.3 gas
The reason why is the 8.1 doesn't make good power beyond stock with mods. They just don't.
All modern GM engine's are underutilized. They maybe because they're junk.😂😂
An lq4 ls3 can make 600+hp NA on regular pump fuel.
Those are solid numbers and extraordinary reliable motors.
I cant speak for the 8.1 as I've never built one.
There’s no replacement for displacement!
Thank you Matt and crew for the amazing content
Dr Pepper cream soda.... warms my heart to see you drinking that matt
Lawrence!!! He is such a great guy!
it may be prudent to change out the crank sensor before installation, or consider the location of the sensor when positioning the engine for serviceability (they're roughly a foot long) ; the crank position sensor appears to be the achilles heel of the L18. being an all iron, basically stroked 454, the 8.1's are durable torque monsters.
I love the fact that you are colabing with more of the Utah automotive youtubers. So many talented people and each are very personable. Can't wait to see this come together!
FINALLY LT is getting the exposure he deserves with his amazing builds and attention to detail!
I agree, I really like a lot of LT’s way of building his own truck projects. The Ygly Truck’s 8.1L turbo engine is a real torque monster. It would be great to see a similar one in Heavy Wrecker.
Mat your like a fine wine my friend. Just keep getting better of time
Great Chanel Matt been watching for a while but I don’t know how much longer I can watch you using a death wheel with no eye protection! PPE is no Joke!!!
Great to see you guys working with LT, he's another good guy. My vote is for a roots blower on the 8.1.
So awesome that you went to see LT, I really think it'll be amazing to see what yall can build together.
This is one of the best videos ive watched, the editor is doing a amazing job with the videos
There are 3 editors for MORR: Tucker, Michael, and Caleb
Matt you took a trooper under your wings, mentor Lizzy the best you can it feels like you are her second dad. Stay safe and thanks for sharing your views. First time I see a group of you tubers going to a wrecking yard
I love that you are breathing new life in things
Let’s make 1 whole week of heavy wrecker build like they did with the golden nugget!
Lets FINISH the Nugget! Since October 2021!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I second this
I second this commotion but wait until they get to a point where the end of the week they can drive it
Parts availability is really hard to have a fast timeline, but if they could, I’d be a happy camper for sure. This is an epic build
*month
Love what you guys do, keep up the awesome content....
The crew you guys have and bring in is absolutely awesome, great bunch of people.
We had an 8.1 with the Allison trans. That truck was a pulling machine!!!!!
I've been the owner of several GM trucks. I once had a used 3/4 ton GMC with the 8.1 engine (496 ci) with Allison tyranny with 40k miles on it and it didn't tow a medium weight 5th wheel camper trailer very well. And It got less than 7 mpg while towing and 10 MPG not towing and miss-fired a lot and didn't preform well. Found out the spark plugs were eroded. Replaced them and that solved the misfire but it still didn't pull too strong. MPG not much better. Found out many owners had same issues. You may have better luck. The one you found has a turbo charger and that may what you need. But you will need a huge gas tank..! I'm now driving a 2016 Chevy 1/2 ton with 5.3 engine and love it. Bought new.
There are two leading engines that RVers highly rate for towing Very Heavy trailers, the GM Duramax and the RAM Cummings diesels.
Wow Matt, picking a Big Block over the LS is awesome! This build just really got interesting.
notification squad, Have a nice weekend!🔥🔥🔥
👍 you too mate.
Back at ya brudder👍
@@mlstrib thank you so much!👍🏻
That's a heck of a long lever arm on that drop hitch, it could use a few gussets
He really only needs 1 underneith the welded joint.
@@captaininsano2777 One on the top as well where the tongue comes straight off the trailer.
they plated the side of the hitch where they cut and welded it for what there hauling on the trailer it will be fine
@@randytravis3998 in an accident, it's amazing how forces multiply. Never assume it will be fine. For the extra effort it would take. It's worth doing right.
@@captaininsano2777 -- I don't think that they considered how the forces are going to react if there is a sidewards load on the trailer tongue... I would consider putting some braces that went from the top of the tongue to the forward corners of the bed of the trailer...
I love the 8.1, all the reliability and power in the world as long as you can keep fuel in it!
I had a 3/4 ton Suburban with the 8.1. Loved it.
Cant wait to see this beast rolling. Great build you guys!
“It uses 3x the fuel as a Duramax.” So what you’re saying is, you are going to run out of fuel in this vehicle too? We are shocked. lol
Maybe he should go with a Duramax. But then again the way fuel is now. Diesel is a mortgage payment every time ya fill up.
@@captaininsano2777 he explained in another video why he didn’t go diesel and I kinda forget why… but I think it was the instant torque versus a more controlled torque for the sand. But then he talks about possibly adding a turbo to the 8.1. So maybe there is some trial and error going on. 😂
@@100mphClub lol just like having enough fuel for the job. Trial n error!!! 🤣😂
My first thought🤣
@@100mphClub He's probably trying to save weight with the gas motor. I'd vote for a Cummins personally.
A small turbo with low boost might be perfect for that thing. Love your channel thanks
THIS!
I pulled an RV fulltime for 8 years with an '02 Chevy with the 8.1L/Alison combination. I loved it. It seemed like every diesel owner I talked with doing the same thing had high-dollar repair stories, all I ever did to that truck was a radiator and an intake manifold. Others have mentioned the fuel mileage, but also watch the oil consumption. 1 quart of oil per 100 gallons of fuel oil usage was evidently considered acceptable by GM.
FREAKIN AWESOME EVERYONE!...thanks 4 video. be kind.
Yes! So glad to see L.T. getting involved with the power train. He's building some cool stuff! The 8.1 will be an awesome build! Marine dock test results speak for themselves on that one!
Can't wait to see this monster wrecker on it's first rescue. It's going to be a beast no doubt. Matt you gotta have a contest for a name for this.
I name it "GOLIATH "
“Hulkster”
"MattMax" 🙂
I like watching your trip from the different points of view based on the different channels, you do have fun. Glad you found the motor, this is going to be cool. Awesome work!
Have the 8.1 in my 2001 suburban and love it. One pulling beast.
Loving this build so far!
I’m a big fan of LT’s channel, so cool too see you guys working together. Two of my favorite channels.👍
Great choice on the 8.1. When you were talking about some 454 LS version, I was going "You know Chevy made engines that size, from the factory, right?"
Everything you guys do is awesome ! Supreme TH-cam videos. And that dr pepper cream soda is my favorite!!!
You all did a pretty good job on disassembling the suburban in reverse order , of the assembly process at the factory 👍🇺🇸
Matt, good to see LT Tolman on your show, I follow LT, he knows his stuff about chevys. I hope you and LT collaborate more in the future. Maybe get LT into off road wheel'in.
Matt, with that engine you are going to need a HUGE fuel cell.
A 50 gallon tank would do it. Or' you'll run out of gas all the time.
But then he won't run out of fuel all the time.
and a working fuel gauge!
I was thinking the same thing. You can always under fill a large tank for small jobs. But having that extra headroom for long hauls would be very useful.
@@webfreakz don't need a fuel gauge with an 8.1...... just remember everytime ya start that beast up it's almost outa fuel!!
Shout out to the whole crew involved in making these videos and getting them out for us to view.
Y’all are beasts.
The ones in front of the camera. And behind the scenes.
Ps: Matt, you’ve made a lot of really great friends and connections.
The things your friends do for you, and what you do for them is evidence of some real solid relationships.
LT!!!! He IS the LS guru!!! I'm glad you guys linked up. I follow LT for a little while now and he's nothing short of amazing when it comes to a LS motor. Thumbs up!!!
LT IS A WIZ! he’s gonna be a big help!!
-- Very pleased in your choice of motor for the wrecker. Watching Robbie's previous video on the junkyard, I thought that 6.0 was going in there. Thing is going to be a monster. Thumbs up.
I think Robbie is going to put a 6.0 LS in both his new Ford off-road tow truck build by Rory Irish and the new Jeep crawler build. Didn't they alsp say he had signed up for two 6.0's? And they said the Ford off-road would be all ford except for the engine.
@@ITubeTooInc -- That adds up, and Matt throwing that 6.0 he has in the Morvair. I was going off something Matt previously said about wanting to throw a 5.3 turbo, or a 6.0 in the wrecker. I wouldn't go 5.3, and 6.0 would be where I would start. To see that monster he's getting for the wrecker now, put a little smile on my face.
think the 6.0 in going in the jeep not sure I thought that is what he said ..
@@randytravis3998 -- Having owned 3 XJs myself, if he can cram that thing in there, I'll rename Matt to Wizard. Besides, the stroker he's got in there is pretty new.
Was not at all expecting the crossover with Lawrence Tolman. He's definitely got good content! Been watching his videos for a while.
Watching this build come together between the different channels is awesome. Keep it up fellas. Seeing friends accomplish a great task is inspiring.
Glad to see someone using their pickup (blue steel) for an actual work truck not just a show peice
10:10 , 11:25 what a beautiful view in the background !
Oh I’m so excited about this engine
I did some math and without at least a 4:1(thinking doubled 205's) transfer case this thing is going to have a lot of wheelspeed even in first gear. Would probably work fine in the sand, but will make rocks and technical stuff a lot more tricky.
It does look like you will want an overdrive unless you want that 8.1 humming along on the highway at over 3k 🤣
Just for fun I did the math for a SM465 and a 4:1 transfer case and got just over 1mph per 1k engine rpm. Unfortunately that's a stick with 6.5:1 first and no overdrive.
I would love to see you go with a TR4050, it's got good gearing and can handle 600lb of torque in stock form.
I'm not too knowledgeable on automatics but you'll need something super beefy or a lot of gear reduction to reduce how much stress it has to take.
My guess is you'll get creative with the transfer case and stick with the stock 8.1 transmission
Whatever route you take it will be an interesting truck and I can't wait to see it in action
Edit: just looked up the first gear ratios on the Allison 1000 (3.10) and the 4L85e (2.85) and hope your transmission is the Allison because it's beefier and at least cracks 3:1 gearing 🤣 you auto guys really don't get anything with deep reduction
you really dont have any idea of what you are talking about.
I think I just watched a matt's off-road recovery vlog? It was great! I really enjoy the broad scope of content you guys produce!
Paul got his "I told ya so" in there perfectly!😎
LT! loved watching power nation shows.
Great choice of motors. That Wrecker is going to be a beast. Also glad to see you are going to solve your u-joint problem on the Banana.
Raylar Cam, Intake Mod, throttle body from a late 2010's LS and some 523 gears that thing would be a beast.
I was actually thinking 8.1 when i saw the first video for this. A company i worked for had fully loaded, 1 ton dually, service trucks with 11 foot service bodies and that engine, and they pulled great. We always pulled a scissor lift on a trailer behind us. The trucks couldn't pass a gas station, but they had the power.
8.1L love!! got one in my 2500 avalanche. Maaaan thing is awesome.
Loved my old 8.1, beat the crap out of it and it never skipped a beat!
do a supercharger it will give you even more low end torque and you will really notice it on the high altitude jobs. also it would sound great
We need derby building and racing videoseries with all you guys collab!
Hell yea! Love to see more 8.1 builds. Very underrated motors
Btw the real choke point on those motors are the heads. They don’t flow all too well even with work done but aren’t the most horrible.
Next thing that goes is the bottom end
Do they eat transmissions on a regular basis? Or am I thinking of 2005 Expeditions...
@@testingthecat8285 no worse than any other HD truck
Raylar engineering has a good catalog of performance parts supporting the 8.1 vortec platform, excited for this build.
I watch LT's channel also! So glad you guys got together!
Awesome video props to the editor for keeping up with Matt, the 8.1 is definitely a torque monster excellent choice for the Heavy Wreaker, ya'll have great community being involved in one another's projects especially when ya take some friendly advice a dana 44 for the Banana great video God bless ❤😉👍
I look forward to seeing more of LT on the channel. Too bad his built 8.1 isn't done yet. If it was, the current 8.1 in ugly truck might have been available for purchase.
Love this channel
The view from Johnny Boy's garage is pristine.
Good Choice! 'Luv' the 8.1! Have one in my 01 GMC 2500HD. Allison Trans.
This video essentially has almost all of the TH-cam Channels I'm following! Agree that LT is definitely the person to help out on your 8.1!
Holly wasn’t there representing Mischief Maker, nor was Rory there with Trail Mater.