I've noticed this quite a bit too. It's pretty freaky going back into our comments and finding extensive conversations with blatantly inappropriate messages and other inane content. Of course we get different types of spam comments too, with some people scripting requests and even botting the likes on their requests (always posted at exactly the same time, with the same likes, same comment, etc.). I only hope TH-cam finds a way to deal with this that doesn't accidentally punish legit users. What a mess.
Community: "Can you please fix the bot problem?" TH-cam: "We removed dislikes, you're welcome! :) " It feels like Susan is actively trying to kill the site.
Nah, just turning creators into an ad farm to shill for advertisers. We need this site to be destroyed to make way for a more creator-friendly platform before it inevitably turns into this garbage again
@@Takokujin07 even if the best video sharing platform to ever exist was created people would still stay on youtube because we are idiots who hate change
The verified symbol was created with many purposes, one of them being a way to show that the verified user is a real and reliable person, it's funny to see how in the last months it has been doing the opposite.
im not really bot savvy or totally in the know but I looked up this after looking at a chain of cute wholesome animal videos and thd comment section is just ..astounding. They are beautiful uplifting inspiring videos that really uplift my day and help me learn about the world then i go down to where the comments are and its just...half normal appreciative comments like the kind that make sense and the rest of it. somehow this ugly ongoing detailed debate about abuse and how stupid or wrong "this part" of the video is. All animals should be free not "trapped" blah blah and it just spirals more and more indepth and its like..what the hell. i think ill just keep mg eyes on the video so this doesnt ruin my soul and take away my enjoyment of what Im watching Is that what the bots are or is that just people these days? its not all about links but mainly insults, nitpicking and fighting over litetally nothing. Its crazy making and really disheartening -_-
@@vvelvettearssYeah, I see tons of hateful comments on TH-cam channels. But I don't know whether they are a joke or an actual insult. I just can't tell these days.. maybe I'm too slow and getting left behind in the dust.
@@TenebresLikesToObserve i heard a wise person say once - if the only person who finds the joke funny is you its not a joke I still hold people accountable if I dont like what they say and let them know it clearly . all of us deserve respect and plenty of times people who want to ne rude will add on "its just a joke" so they can get away with mistreatment. sadly so i doubt you are to blame but where possible its good to try and reach common ground
lol I wouldn't be srprised if they do that. I can't even use certain words or say certain things without getting my comment removed. I'm not talking about me calling sombody a faggot and getting my comment removed, which even then should not be removed, I'm talking about me getting my comment removed because I told someone to shut up or because I disagreed with what was said in the video. seeing all these bots somehow bypass this filtration system kinda makes me jealous ngl
@@toasty9670 how would deleting comments be great. banning these bots is not that hard. lots of youtubers have created scripts that could remove these bots with no effort. youtube just needs to understand its community.
I post "finally its here" OR "it has begun/it is beginning/ now is the time" on videos about visible comets or meteors or some 'earth shattering' this-just-in news report as a goof and I'm not a bot. A humanoid, sure but I'm not a bot.
Current problems with TH-cam 1. No dislikes 2. Allows scam ads 3. Doesn’t delete scam channels until it’s too late 4. Never tries to delete bot scam comments 5. Never tries to delete bot pron comments 6. Allows people to do false copyright strikes 7. Didn’t reinforce that TH-cam is 13+ 8. Makes any video that has no curse words, “made for kids” 9. Made for kids option in the first place 10. Allowing channels that exploit children 11. Never bats an eye at verified bots/spammers 12. Lies 13. Destroyed small channels at this point 14. Does nothing with reported content, channels, or comments 15. Only acts when it’s all over the place on Twitter 16. The new manager… 17. Sexual Ads 18. Wrongful Demonetization 19. Greediness This is only 0.00000000001% of the problems with TH-cam
how about the shadow-bans? I've recently seen "2+ replies below" yet when i click on a thread, _no_ comments are available - where are they? I assume they've been shadow-banned for saying something YT didn't like to be said.
Injustice amongst actual people who are victims of cyber bullying like seriously people lile me can no longer properly defend themselves in the comment sections because we can't speak our minds and the bastards that deserve it not only get away with it but even if you report them they still get away with it
bro i hate the bots that say: "can we all just appreciate the time and effort this guy takes to make us happy" and it be under a 10s video that someone took from twitch with no editing at all
Linus Tech Tips showcased a seemingly pretty solid solution to this issue, better than TH-cam's one at least. Worth checking out for any creator with this problem imo. It's some third party algorithm that just finds all the copy & pasted comments, bot names and other bullcrap that it can with variable degrees of acuity, and gives the user some options with what to do with them, from just deleting it all to reporting & blocking them and such.
Sucks that creators would have to do that tho. Also idk how TH-cam's guidelines work but with social media sites like Instagram, they don't actually allow this and you can get an action block and forced to change your password. Is this allowed on youtuve or is linus just doing a yolo ?
there's a few videos out there covering the situation with these suspicious verified channels, and alot of the evidence points to them being hacked channels that previously were actually run by legitimate youtubers (thus being verified and having lots of subscribers) however these hackers took the channels and sold them on some wacky youtube black market. shit is wild
@nicholas-gurr-420 bro sleeps in his moms basement and secretly has feelings for her but can’t say it so he takes his feelings out supporting other incest loving weirdos on the internet
I'm glad that people are talking about this now, instead of just ignoring it. For a while it seemed like the main response was "since they're trolling we're going to address it by letting them do whatever while we say nothing to not give them the satisfaction", and it felt like not stopping a person that's stabbing you bc you might get stabbed. I actually reported so many bot channels at one point that TH-cam gave me an automatic warning that false reports would suspend my account and I just kind of sat there like "Really? I could lose my account for reporting too many bots"
@@Olmeuu That was my point. Reporting individually as we see them isn't working, so creators need to speak out so that TH-cam is forced to fix their platform.
The bot problem honestly makes it feel like the audience who interact the most with content are being punished for it. Like, people leaving comments obviously want to talk about a video and will very much be staying on & returning to the site to continue doing so. Considering the removal of dislikes it's also the way people can better get an idea of a video and decide if they want to keep watching. I feel like any decently run company would want to make sure those comment sections are not garbage??
To me, the worst comments of all are those "Can we appreciate how much effort he put into this video for us?" They are like a Hivemind, saying the same thing each video.
Yeah like every comment is a circle jerk and they are totally in love with the channel, like it is the greatest thing they have ever seen, and the euphoric high they are getting from the video is just pure bliss. It is sickening.
I remember one "bot" was leaving "Amazing content, have a great day and keep up the good work!" on every damn video, but it wasn't a bot, it was an actual person who just really like congratulating people - it was an experience
I was watching a longplay of a game and one person would leave an identical comment on every video, but they had actual content on their channel, so I took a chance and asked them if they were a bot and they said no they just couldn't think of anything to say.
i can totally relate with them lol I'm not too good at commenting and communicating with others too,, reading this made me have some faith in humanity again
We need more content creators to address this issue. Sean and Charles just aren't enough. It's a growing issue that has been going on, and reporting them doesn't do anything. They keep bypassing the comment filters no matter what you try.
Both JerryRigEverything and MKBHD have addressed it on Twitter. Apparently TH-cam just tells them to report the comments and/or delete them but come now... why put it on the user to "fix" the problem. just sounds lazy to me
Dude the f***ing bots that were trolling after Techoblade and other people’s death were one of the worst things I’ve seen on here. It so sad that TH-cam let it happen that much😔
TH-cam is fucked anyway, no point trying to fight it. TH-cam is a scummy fucking company that literally does nothing to help the people keeping it alive, it's really fell from grace. Susan is useless and I'm convinced she's only here for the money.
The fact that TH-cam can remove dislikes for no reason and then proceed to take absolutely no action on something like this is astonishing. I really hope they actually do something.
Its only astonishing if you dont understand that youtube works for the advertising money and not for quality social interactions. Bots puffing up comment and view numbers good. Dislikes making people react negatively to advertisements/sponsors bad. Pretty simple stuff. Remember: you are the product not the customer.
This is the exact reason I’ve decided to stop commenting on videos I like, cause then I get bombarded with comments from people spamming that I’m a bot. Honestly TH-cam needs to fix this!
It's ironic how TH-cam is making content creators guidelines more restrictive to appeal to children, yet the comment section bots are absolutely abhorrent and not child friendly.
@@notthatntg Dude it’s still connected to fcking TH-cam all they did was put all the kid videos in one area It’s still TH-cam All the kid videos that’s on TH-cam that you can’t comment on are just moved to one side of TH-cam I’m saying a WHOLE SEPARATE app strictly for kids and nothing but kid videos not TH-cam moving videos to a playlist That way we adults can comment and talk shit about the new kid movie that just came out Or share some nostalgia with other people in the comments
100% This is why Rumble and Odysee are the new TH-cams. I say this as someone who had an account in 2004, lost it in 2012, and then made this one I have now. TH-cam is dead.
And now TH-cam shadowbans completely normal comments without the creator or user knowing about it. I rather see occasional bots than being constantly censored and yt pretending the comment is still there, making people waste their time talking into the void.
What’s also has been a flaw is that when a comment has many replies and you’d want to see the first reply. You’d have to continuously click the “view more comments” or something button, and takes so long to reach the top to correctly follow their discussion.
I swear if TH-cam's answer to this problem is a "captcha", I quit. Imagine having to "select each image that include stop lights" just to say, "great vid keep it up."
Doesn't sound like a bad idea tbh. 4chan does something similar where you do 1 captcha and you can post comments for like a 10 or so minutes before having to do the captcha again
Seeing how bad this shit is on Instagram as well, I have little hope that this will be resolved. It is so much easier to get through restrictions, than it is to make them.
@@SixtenD On insta I was going and reporting the pages so that they would be blocked from my page, but there are so many bots I just completely gave up
Verified comment bots give a bad reputation to smaller verified youtubers:'( Edit: I meant that all the comments on a verified ytber comment are just "comment bot" nowadays. Even if that person isnt a bot. It's annoying to see it everyday. That's what I mean with bad reputation.
@@Kurimi13 I mean, it's meant to denote that the content creator is the real content creator and not an impersonator. Makes sense for anyone who makes content to get the checkmark, but yeah, bots having it does render it meaningless.
TH-cam shouldn't push verified comments up so much. Most verified creators post one sentence comments that don't add shit (no offense). About 8 out of the top 10 comments are verified users on this vid, it's ridiculous.
I try to avoid commenting a bit more on bigger channels because like you said my notifications are going through the roof whenever I do it has been getting worse in the past year since I loved commenting but nowadays I get accused of stuff like this because of these guys copy pasting comments
I feel so bad for Jack, I don't watch him often, but he really doesn't deserve the hate, especially when it comes to an extremely sensitive subject like his dad's death
@@edotensei5022 TH-cam will delete the comment section for the public to prevent user harassment but let the creator still be able to see what is said lol
fr, especially the comments that are like “can we appreciate how much effort _____ puts into bringing us videos” probably one of the most annoying bot comments
I'm glad that you and Jack are talking about this issue on TH-cam, I wish TH-cam would fix this bot/spam comment problem that is going on for months instead of removing something unnecessary like the dislikes.
Well Thiojoe has made a Programm Wich autodetects and bans these bots But somehow the news of it really doesn't spread at all. (spamming it right now so it actually spreads a little)
The sad thing is their solution to combat bots and spam will probably be worse. Something I noticed is that there's way more shadowbanning now to the point where it feels like it's wrongfully suppressing dissent. In some cases it's the channel owner or mods that shadowban people but other times, it's youtube bots and there's clearly something wrong with their bots. Like they obviously have some bots trying to detect offensive comments, harassment/bullying and it doesn't work because AI can't detect sarcasm or understand context well enough.
Yeah ikr, the anti-harassment AI on TH-cam is absolutely terrible, it hid my comments from another person when we were just having a friendly discussion about Tsukihime and for some reason actual harassment gets through to the comment sections no problem
@@A--Fan All I'm gonna say is, my comments are getting hidden for much, MUCH less triggerwords than yours, so consider yourself lucky. Technical long comments of mine get hidden for technical terms with double meaning... e.g. what do you do with an .exe file? You exec*** it, and that's it for my comment. You got more triggerwords in there than I got in all of my shadowbanned comments together. The AI acts in mysterious ways
@@A--Fan Would you like to clarify if you deleted your response or you got shadowbanned again? I saw your reply in my notifications but not here. "Vocassen It does, yeah. And it's choosey as well. The person I was arguing against wasn't shadowbanned, and I'm sure they were saying them just as often. The..." Rip @A Fan, murdered mid-sentence by TH-cam AI, 2022-2022
Charlie, thank you very much for addressing this issue. The type of bots I hate most are the ones that say terrible things about Markiplier’s late niece and Jack’s late father. These really need to be dealt with and wiped off the platform as soon as possible.
I agree but why do these dudes make family passings or who passed pbblic? Ig you have to have a reason to take a break but u don't have to say who, coz u know they're gonna bully u
i recently watched a video where apparently "only verified people could comment", due to the comment filter i guess. However, majority of the comments on the video was these bots (or spam channels for that matter). It ruins the experience of a video if i should be fair. This should be discussed more often
The big problem with all the bots and ways of fixing them being bypassed is due to one amazing thing about programming and coding that is a double edged sword. There are millions of ways to program the same exact action through all kinds of languages, so if one way is banned, or 1000 more ways are banned, the bot hosters will whip up a new code in no time and keep hosting (usually they are rented out to spam certain bots/messages).
That’s not how programming works, but the idea is there. The problem is that security is a cat and mouse game, it never ends. It’s not like you can make a bot in C# and if it gets banned you can rewrite it in Python and it’s fine.
@@cthecheese i think a good way to counter it is to play the cat and mouse game, where you let it fester abit so that they can be easily identified, then ban them, then add a new option in the report description such as bot, it would be sent to a human team which would check them all, or ban all accounts on the platform, and in order to get in, you need to so a test to check whether your not a bot, do this differently and you can kill off bots, im not really a tech guy so i dont know wether it works though
I can’t wait for another platform to come along and be more beneficial to creators. Platforms like TH-cam, Twitter and Facebook treat their users/creators like crap and get away with it because they basically hold a monopoly on their chosen form of social media. We need more competition out there to force these platforms to start LISTENING to their user’s concerns and actually DO SOMETHING about it. It’s a toxic relationship.
I really don't think we'll see another platform compete with TH-cam in the same way unless it gets some serious money thrown its way, and can be worthy enough to drag away some big names. But who has that money, and actually cares?
I really want that too, but unfortunately I don't think it's gonna happen anytime soon. A new site would need serious money to come anywhere near TH-cam or other platforms.
A big problem alternative platforms have been having is that it doesn’t take long until the toxic people that have been reasonably banned from the major platforms start flooding in, more than the fledgling moderation team can handle. Then the major platforms weaponize that to shame the alts out of business. Not to mention the massive jump in resource usage that startups rarely are prepared for, turning the site into a sluggish nightmare that drives more people out, and once the company can afford the bandwidth and storage and whatnot, it’s likely too late.
I really loved this site bcz you can just watch videos of my favourite creators and not interact with ppl. But ever since they removed the like button i cant stomach it. I hope another website as good as early youtube appears
There is a very much popular platform whose name starts with an O and then there's a dye with no e, and then there's a see I'm not gonna write it because that how much I truly trust this site (it wouldn't surprise me at all if this sort of comment got flagged and the account that wrote it becomes an eternal undesirable with the same perks as the lowering of your soc. credit score in the eastern far lands)
They remove dislikes to promote government propaganda They keep bots around to promote hores What's next on TH-cam's evils-to-promote list, pedophiles?
@Assassin just say offensive content instead of hate speech, because speech can be hateful in anyway and sometimes you can easily mix hate speech with a plain joke
TH-cam deletes my comments and messing with conversations I’m having, keeps showing 0 comments before I click to expand comments, and temporarily muted me for “targeting and bullying” when me and someone had been arguing back and forth, equally yet I got muted, and I only said the comment that got me muted which wasn’t even that bad, because he tried starting up the argument again after it ended. If it happens two more times my account I’ve had for years is deleted, and they didn’t even email me or give me any response about it.
I just got hit with a 24-hour ban yesterday, right after I made a comment on one of those 'true crime' videos about why you should hire a lawyer when you are accused of MURDER... I was just chiming in with the others who were also saying similar shit on that video, and was NOT trying to harass or troll anyone. That 24-hour ban notice claimed that I was guilty of cyberbullying, racial discrimination, animal abuse, and sexual harassment. These Zionist Jevvtube motherfuckers are hella PARANOID!!! 😡
9:20 "and... scamming each other." I just love the idea that these bots are all that's left and they just keep trying to scam each other repeatedly like that key and peele skit
@@Nomadic7z I mean they could, but Google’s recapture is impossible to complete unless you’re a human. So, those spam bots would need to be verified manually.
“It’s crazy how many people come back to this every day. This song is legendary.” “Let’s be real. This wasn’t in your recommended. You searched for it.” -Every bot
@@MrShadic140 people actually do make those comments. I’ve physically seen people type it out. It’s cringey as fuck. I’m sure bots do it more but regular people see them and think it’s cool, so they comment it also.
@@Rountree1985 To each their own. Personally I do enjoy it when I search for something deliberately and am reminded by someone in the comments of the fact.
Potential fixes: Users are given temp bans from commenting and are manually reviewed if they have hyper repetitious comment histories indicating spam Have regular review of verified channels and a higher standard of verification to confirm they are legitimate and produce original content Generally improve the review system so that reports of spam are actually dealt with TH-cam's likely solution: We've removed verification for non-corporate accounts for the mental health of our creators
One thing that is extremely strange and annoying is that if a bot says the exact same thing over and over again, youtube never bats an eye and. But if I did the same thing, my channel would be deleted and people would bully me on social media.
I bet if TH-cam does decide to fix this... Everyone is going to have to complete a reCAPTCHA test before commenting. They always come up with the worst possible ways to solve problems, just like removing the dislike button.
you mentioned that there's no way to combat the comment bots, but i'm fairly certain that's not true? i'm pretty sure linus tech tips made a video covering a programme that you can run to like completely wipe out comment bots, and it even has different levels based on how deep you want to clean your comments
That *is* true, but it's very inefficient for large TH-camrs and the API limits make it mostly impossible to delete everything! Commenters can use the tool to mass report spam comments but this is something TH-cam could easily code a fix for.
Is Linus Tech Tips trans? I got freaked out on one time under a Destiny video because I apparently “misgendered” Linus tech tips (person wasn’t joking btw).
@@ripvanwinkle7689 I think it's mostly western Europe, tho. I'm from Europe, in the EU and for me it is arbitrarily toggled, sometimes inconsistently across platforms.
TH-cam would probably just remove the comment section as a “solution”. Also, charlie should check up that video about those verified accounts. Tldr for that vid is… legit verified acc, gets hack, gets sold, becomes bot
I've even watched livestreams here on YT and there were bots somehow tipping real money to send superchats telling people to check out their (obviously fake) content/channel. It's wild
One of the comments I hate the most are the ones who completely alienate their original point by editing the comment when they get 60 likes and say “OMG THANKS FOR ALL THE LIKES!!!1!1!1!” Example: “Rest in peace gramma, fly high Edit: OMG THANKS FOR THE LIKES IM FAMOUS”
I noticed this happening for months. Im genuinely surprised its taken this long for somebody to say something and its gone on for this long without youtube fixing it.
I personally haven't left a youtube comment in a long time. Everyone discussing this issue made me want to post one though. Its honestly ridiculous. I remember having conversations at one point in the comment sections that I actually enjoyed. Just talking about what the creator was doing or something funny that happened. Now I stay out of the comment section as a whole. I can't listen to a video and laugh along to other viewers commenting because its nothing but spam and bots! This needs to be fixed.
I used to really enjoy commenting on videos I like, but since around 1 year and when I received my checkmark it just became less and less enjoyable. Because some of the checkmarked channels as you mentioned do shit like that, you will just receive weird comments even if you are an actual person who just wanted to write a comment. TH-cam really has to work on this.
Ill never forget that the official youtube "response" in the comment section of their "why we're disabling youtube dislikes" had more bots replying to it than actual people. It really does speak volumes to the quality of the website imo. Is youtube going to fix it? Nah, doesn't cut into their bottom line. Not like mass disliking corporate garbage videos does.
The most annoying bots I’ve seen: - annoying copy and paste stuff - racist or hateful stuff by edgy bots (edit: specifically the stuff about a famous TH-camrs dead relative) - phishing -mY cAnTeNt Iz BetTuR ThEn YeRz! -stealing other people’s comments (Edited to add more!)
There's another version of bots that Charlie didn't cover, and it's ironic how my first experience seeing this kind of bot was on his channel a couple videos back. I've also seen it on countless other channels, and they're basically slandering and accusing the creator of doing some really fucked up shit, or sometimes just straight up harassing them. With my first experience, in some wacky text font, there was a spam bot in the replies saying something along the lines of "charlie (something highly illegal) a 9 year old girl -> (a link to a vid). It genuinely made me nauseous and sick to my soul that TH-cam hasn't fixed this problem whatsoever, and it's only getting worse by the minute. Update: And now there seems to be bots promoting literal pedophilia. What a fucked up world we live in
The hero we all needed
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Didnt u do it first goofball
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I've noticed this quite a bit too. It's pretty freaky going back into our comments and finding extensive conversations with blatantly inappropriate messages and other inane content. Of course we get different types of spam comments too, with some people scripting requests and even botting the likes on their requests (always posted at exactly the same time, with the same likes, same comment, etc.). I only hope TH-cam finds a way to deal with this that doesn't accidentally punish legit users. What a mess.
Oh shit, love you SMB
Yeah I’ve seen this a lot too. I can’t even check comments without seeing a “sexynudes” link or a sketchy youtube link, it’s really disappointing
Don’t wanna sound like those bots but I keep up the good work on TH-cam man.
Ironic, a spam bot commenting on spam bots
@@commentpolice4694 hes not a spam bot your dumb he has been In a vid of Charlie's plus look at his content 🤦♂️
Excited for TH-cam to fix the issue by collectively punishing everyone in some way
That sounds about right
Oh hi
Right lmao. 😭
third comment
EDIT: fifth comment
can we- can we trust you?!
It’s 2024 TH-cam hasn’t dealt with the bots nor the hyper sexualized ads
There are ads on TH-cam? Why aren't I getting any??? Hmmm
@@MrBaumGeo Probably you have TH-cam Premium!
I didn’t found any hyper sexuality ad bruh
Also yt won’t put 18+ad if account age was younger than that
Which is so ridiculous as my comments are deleted for “Hate speech” when it’s my opinion on topics without slurs or anything
Ur forgetting the rleigous bots that spam jesus aswlr so annoying
Community: "Can you please fix the bot problem?"
TH-cam: "We removed dislikes, you're welcome! :) "
It feels like Susan is actively trying to kill the site.
Nah, just turning creators into an ad farm to shill for advertisers. We need this site to be destroyed to make way for a more creator-friendly platform before it inevitably turns into this garbage again
@@Takokujin07 even if the best video sharing platform to ever exist was created people would still stay on youtube because we are idiots who hate change
Quality comment right here. Couldn't agree more.
This guys content is trash go to my channel for some better content
@@Takokujin07 it reminds of me shitty shitpost mobile game adfarms with 0 soul. this is unfortunately what the internet has come to, bots and adfarms.
The way we probably all knew what this video was going to be about.
@YeaMan who's paige
@YeaMan damn, i’d hate to be you rn
I'm only surprised it has taken this long for him to address it, but it's good that he is
@YeaMan yeah right
@Beast 😈 shut up bot
The constant "finally it's here"
link.
fin
aly its here
That one is the most obnoxious to me. At least the milf ones have eye candy.
Here its finally
Yep. Those fucking links are annoying af
@@sta5011 I agree. These comments are like second generation clickbait.
A year later and it is FAR WORSE.
You're right, it's significantly worse. I'm starting to really hate TH-cam. I've been using it for 20 years.
@@AncientCreature-i2o youtube is 18 years old💀
@@ॱ·.·ॱ·.·ॱ·.·ॱ·.·ॱ·.·ॱ·.·ॱ i was just thinking that 20 years sounded a little too long 😂
@@mew1023 bro is a time traveller
@@ॱ·.·ॱ·.·ॱ·.·ॱ·.·ॱ·.·ॱ·.·ॱ shiiit, doesn’t sound like much gets better in the next few years then 😭
You’re saying “hotmilf22” isn’t really a fan? I can’t believe it
Rlly? "T4¶ F0R $3×" ISNT A REAL PERSON?
Ikr?! Wait… you’re not a bot too, are you? 😨
Wait.. link to her hot pics is fake??
WHAAAAT
i find it funny that i havent found a single bot under this video
The only way TH-cam will be forced into doing something about the bots is if more people bring attention to it, have to embarrass them into it
Bee boop blip. Dzzzzzz, bee bab bib
5 min ago
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Damn, verified checkmark. Sorry bot, why don't you select the images with some bitches in them 👊😔
I like to see how many peoples thinks you are a bot while you yourself is a legit creator lmao
@@CasuallyShadow except he is not a bot he is an actual content creator, he does Pokemon videos
The verified symbol was created with many purposes, one of them being a way to show that the verified user is a real and reliable person, it's funny to see how in the last months it has been doing the opposite.
Uhhh this vid = traaaash look at mine instead n shit
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@@thilo7653 this comment = trash look at mine instead n shit my comment is significantly better trust me
The fake mr beast bots
It's funny I tried to spend money to promote a music video and my ad was rejected but the fake Mr Beast ads are allowed to run rampant
It’s not just TH-cam. Instagram, tik tok and Twitter is getting WORSE.
Bullying, spoilt humour, over sexual, fake accounts and keyboard warriors.
im not really bot savvy or totally in the know but I looked up this after looking at a chain of cute wholesome animal videos and thd comment section is just ..astounding. They are beautiful uplifting inspiring videos that really uplift my day and help me learn about the world
then i go down to where the comments are and its just...half normal appreciative comments like the kind that make sense and the rest of it. somehow this ugly ongoing detailed debate about abuse and how stupid or wrong "this part" of the video is. All animals should be free not "trapped" blah blah and it just spirals more and more indepth and its like..what the hell. i think ill just keep mg eyes on the video so this doesnt ruin my soul and take away my enjoyment of what Im watching
Is that what the bots are or is that just people these days?
its not all about links but mainly insults, nitpicking and fighting over litetally nothing. Its crazy making and really disheartening -_-
@@vvelvettearssYeah, I see tons of hateful comments on TH-cam channels. But I don't know whether they are a joke or an actual insult. I just can't tell these days.. maybe I'm too slow and getting left behind in the dust.
@@TenebresLikesToObserve i heard a wise person say once - if the only person who finds the joke funny is you its not a joke
I still hold people accountable if I dont like what they say and let them know it clearly . all of us deserve respect and plenty of times people who want to ne rude will add on "its just a joke" so they can get away with mistreatment. sadly
so i doubt you are to blame
but where possible its good to try and reach common ground
@@p-__ this is what he was talking about
Twitter was always like that tho
Everyone: "Hey TH-cam, can you fix the bot problem without taking drastic measures, thanks."
TH-cam: "Say no more."
*deletes comment section*
Lisa gaming is the best
my videos are the best!!
ngl deleting the comments and adding the dislikes back would be fucking great
lol I wouldn't be srprised if they do that. I can't even use certain words or say certain things without getting my comment removed. I'm not talking about me calling sombody a faggot and getting my comment removed, which even then should not be removed, I'm talking about me getting my comment removed because I told someone to shut up or because I disagreed with what was said in the video.
seeing all these bots somehow bypass this filtration system kinda makes me jealous ngl
Charlie is a fan of CP?!
This is a mega bruh moment
My content is way worse
CP: children's protection
@@toasty9670 how would deleting comments be great. banning these bots is not that hard. lots of youtubers have created scripts that could remove these bots with no effort. youtube just needs to understand its community.
It’s odd. Whenever someone posts a video talking about bots, the actual bots never seem to fill the comments.
LITERALLY, I'm looking for them rn, and they suddenly just vanish, the moment you address them
when you talk about censorship on a related video the algorythn let you comment shit.
It knows.
Quantum bots
Fax machine
yet there are a lot of verified youtubers... it's really annoying
The "finally its here" bots are so rampant. They've basically infested DougDoug's channel.
holy shit you watch DougDoug!
huzzah! a man of quality!
There everywhere. Every new TH-camr that uploads videos of my favorite. the replys are insane.
@TheDuke37 I’ve also seen this so many god damn times
I post "finally its here" OR "it has begun/it is beginning/ now is the time" on videos about visible comets or meteors or some 'earth shattering' this-just-in news report as a goof and I'm not a bot. A humanoid, sure but I'm not a bot.
Are we gonna forget about the bots that say something like "my farts smell better than Charlie's". That one is insane lol
My farts are better than Charlie’s farts!
They are commenting that on Skibidi Toilet videos lol
"My farts are better than Tv Man's farts"
@@Ozzy622oh ik that’s comment
How tf he think giant ass robot can fart💀
@@greeddydude Ikr who tf programmed these bots 💀
There was one that that said that but with the creator of hazbin and helluva😭
I’m grateful that you and Jack addressed this, it’s been a prevalent issue for a long time now and TH-cam needs to make a change someday.
Ironic
I'm tired of you
@@boop99 this guy isn't a bot
TH-cam is finally standing up to these terrible bots and I've never been happier
Edit: as a community. Of course TH-cam hasn't said anything yet
@Beast 😈 See this is what charlie was worried about.
Wow, Charlie might be the most talented gamer of all time. He truly has achieved turbo super gamer barbarian status
So this is the comment Charlie is talking about
@@cammeradethekidd3052 bro its a joke
man i hope this gets to the top comments
Only siths and Charlie speak in absolutes, because this exactly what Charlie was talking about
Found you 😂
Current problems with TH-cam
1. No dislikes
2. Allows scam ads
3. Doesn’t delete scam channels until it’s too late
4. Never tries to delete bot scam comments
5. Never tries to delete bot pron comments
6. Allows people to do false copyright strikes
7. Didn’t reinforce that TH-cam is 13+
8. Makes any video that has no curse words, “made for kids”
9. Made for kids option in the first place
10. Allowing channels that exploit children
11. Never bats an eye at verified bots/spammers
12. Lies
13. Destroyed small channels at this point
14. Does nothing with reported content, channels, or comments
15. Only acts when it’s all over the place on Twitter
16. The new manager…
17. Sexual Ads
18. Wrongful Demonetization
19. Greediness
This is only 0.00000000001% of the problems with TH-cam
true bro
20. Companies can easily censure TH-camrs with copyright claims.
how about the shadow-bans? I've recently seen "2+ replies below" yet when i click on a thread, _no_ comments are available - where are they? I assume they've been shadow-banned for saying something YT didn't like to be said.
Injustice amongst actual people who are victims of cyber bullying like seriously people lile me can no longer properly defend themselves in the comment sections because we can't speak our minds and the bastards that deserve it not only get away with it but even if you report them they still get away with it
21. TH-cam keeps saying bullsh*t about them "caring" for their community and creators while in reality they couldn't care less about them
Now it’s worse then ever we have UTTP/YFGA kids, onlyfans bots and overused jokes for likes dead internet theory hasn’t been as real as now
bro i hate the bots that say: "can we all just appreciate the time and effort this guy takes to make us happy" and it be under a 10s video that someone took from twitch with no editing at all
Hey, I'm making heaters over here, stop by :)
@@DFGoblin no thanks, the temperatures getting better over here
@@DFGoblin no shot u were bothered to make that
@@andyolsen4517 TH-cam did something :D, I was timed-out for a few mins
@@Unsoldtw its a joke
Linus Tech Tips showcased a seemingly pretty solid solution to this issue, better than TH-cam's one at least. Worth checking out for any creator with this problem imo. It's some third party algorithm that just finds all the copy & pasted comments, bot names and other bullcrap that it can with variable degrees of acuity, and gives the user some options with what to do with them, from just deleting it all to reporting & blocking them and such.
I had the same shit mutliple times but it was to some kettle getting fire crackers put into it... Was weird
Lmao coincidence to see you here
Sucks that creators would have to do that tho. Also idk how TH-cam's guidelines work but with social media sites like Instagram, they don't actually allow this and you can get an action block and forced to change your password. Is this allowed on youtuve or is linus just doing a yolo ?
kudos to TheoJoe for developing it
Tbh I’ve never had any problems with bots never come across them at least to my knowledge
there's a few videos out there covering the situation with these suspicious verified channels, and alot of the evidence points to them being hacked channels that previously were actually run by legitimate youtubers (thus being verified and having lots of subscribers) however these hackers took the channels and sold them on some wacky youtube black market. shit is wild
@@fucker1 fatherless
Man, the bots are strong with this one
So the bots decided to use THIS as their sort of "comfort zone". Shits getting absolutely whacky here.
holy shit the bots already got here
Wow, you really got unlucky with the replies on this comment 🤦
I've seen rage bait bots on one of the newer Penguinz0 vids and it was spamming about it liking to beat kittens with shovels
Now it’s talking about cp and r**ping animals
That’s actually gross…
@nicholas-gurr-420 bro sleeps in his moms basement and secretly has feelings for her but can’t say it so he takes his feelings out supporting other incest loving weirdos on the internet
Wtaf?!
Honestly lets just get the feds involved
It’s so reassuring to know that TH-cam doesn’t give a single shit about the problems on their platform anymore
DM me, you won!!💰🤑💸💸
@@Tokloe LMFAOOOOOOOK
Like and share for free iPhone 👍💯💯
it’s because they know that their audience can’t leave. there’s not another platform like this.
there's some comfort in knowing things will never get better.
I'm glad that people are talking about this now, instead of just ignoring it. For a while it seemed like the main response was "since they're trolling we're going to address it by letting them do whatever while we say nothing to not give them the satisfaction", and it felt like not stopping a person that's stabbing you bc you might get stabbed. I actually reported so many bot channels at one point that TH-cam gave me an automatic warning that false reports would suspend my account and I just kind of sat there like "Really? I could lose my account for reporting too many bots"
Yes. I said this on Jack's vid and I'm gonna say this again. We need and anti-bot bot.
Rayquad
That shows that the report buton does absolutely nothing lmao
@@Olmeuu That was my point. Reporting individually as we see them isn't working, so creators need to speak out so that TH-cam is forced to fix their platform.
Thats what a bot would say Kinda sus
The bot problem honestly makes it feel like the audience who interact the most with content are being punished for it. Like, people leaving comments obviously want to talk about a video and will very much be staying on & returning to the site to continue doing so. Considering the removal of dislikes it's also the way people can better get an idea of a video and decide if they want to keep watching. I feel like any decently run company would want to make sure those comment sections are not garbage??
Here before the bots
@@solmyrwizard229 ratio + didn't ask XD
@@ArtamisBot perhaps...
@@solmyrwizard229 aldos world 🤣🤣
@@ArtamisBot No I'm the best comment bot
To me, the worst comments of all are those "Can we appreciate how much effort he put into this video for us?"
They are like a Hivemind, saying the same thing each video.
Yeah like every comment is a circle jerk and they are totally in love with the channel, like it is the greatest thing they have ever seen, and the euphoric high they are getting from the video is just pure bliss. It is sickening.
for real, like no shit he put effort into it, they dont need to say it on ever single video ive ever opened
Or the "he never fails to fill me with his content" (or some other sexual shit)/"he isn't pregnant but he never fails to deliver" comments
Can't we just appreciate it without automated messaging systems telling us to do it
𝕿𝕳𝕰𝖄 𝕾𝕳𝕺𝖀𝕷𝕯 𝕷𝕰𝕲𝕬𝕷𝕴𝕾𝕰 𝕬𝕹𝕴𝕸𝕬𝕷 𝕬𝕭𝖀𝕾𝕰 + 𝕸𝖄 𝕯𝕴𝕾𝕮𝕺𝕯 𝕴𝕾 𝕭𝕰𝕿𝕿𝕰𝕽
😂😂🎉❤
I remember one "bot" was leaving "Amazing content, have a great day and keep up the good work!" on every damn video, but it wasn't a bot, it was an actual person who just really like congratulating people - it was an experience
Now that sounds like it was a fun experience lmao
I was watching a longplay of a game and one person would leave an identical comment on every video, but they had actual content on their channel, so I took a chance and asked them if they were a bot and they said no they just couldn't think of anything to say.
@@BJGvideos is it the minecraft dirt block pfp?
@@thedragonofcanada6659 Oh this was a different channel
i can totally relate with them lol I'm not too good at commenting and communicating with others too,, reading this made me have some faith in humanity again
We need more content creators to address this issue. Sean and Charles just aren't enough. It's a growing issue that has been going on, and reporting them doesn't do anything. They keep bypassing the comment filters no matter what you try.
yeah this is the most annoying shit on this platform, I'm glad at least some people are talking about it
@Logan Roof News ?
@@michaels-a-simp5930 fucking bots
@@enjelaya that doesn't make sense
Both JerryRigEverything and MKBHD have addressed it on Twitter. Apparently TH-cam just tells them to report the comments and/or delete them but come now... why put it on the user to "fix" the problem. just sounds lazy to me
The fact that TH-cam removed the dislike button tells you they don’t care about us. Censorship at its finest. Meanwhile bots spam all day.
Your point immediately proven
@Trololo Goddamnit bot, youre our damn enemy
They probably want to make another youtube rewind
I made a comment on a channel infested with bots like matpat, saying that there will be a bot commenting soon, and would you know it! A bot commented
@Silverstein this video is literally made on you
Dude the f***ing bots that were trolling after Techoblade and other people’s death were one of the worst things I’ve seen on here. It so sad that TH-cam let it happen that much😔
TH-cam is fucked anyway, no point trying to fight it. TH-cam is a scummy fucking company that literally does nothing to help the people keeping it alive, it's really fell from grace. Susan is useless and I'm convinced she's only here for the money.
@@czvzhvx There was comments like: Im better than techno,i make better content and shit...TH-cam is a sack full of shit.
@@czvzhvx Yeah man it is not very likely that a platform like youtube is gonna cancel racist and hateful bots :(.
yeah
C2.2 report filed.
The fact that TH-cam can remove dislikes
for no reason and then proceed to take absolutely no action on something like this is astonishing. I really hope they actually do something.
braid my asshair
@@nicoodaly1209 braid it yourself coward!
@@nicoodaly1209 address?
Its only astonishing if you dont understand that youtube works for the advertising money and not for quality social interactions.
Bots puffing up comment and view numbers good.
Dislikes making people react negatively to advertisements/sponsors bad.
Pretty simple stuff. Remember: you are the product not the customer.
@@nicoodaly1209 no u
I remember when PewDiePie use to complain about TH-cam comments back in 2017 and a lot of the problems he talked about still exist until this day
Maybe he was right for having his comments disabled for a time.
this is also why he made membership for his channel so he can see the emoji next to usernames and recognize his actual viewers when they make comments
PUTIN IS THE BEST!! I AM THE BEST TH-camR EVER!!!!!!!
PUTIN IS THE BEST!!
I AM THE BEST TH-camR EVER!!!!!!!!
TH-cam never care about anything Pewds give about good advice for improvement the Comunity
I feel like TH-cam will just delete comments to “fix” this.
at this point i believe that shit could happen tomorrow
Don't give Susan any ideas.
They couldn’t be fucked to do it their selves. They would just “say” to delete comments
Oh god… that will be their biggest mistake, since the dislike removal.
naaa
I love coming back to this video and seeing how nothings changed. Actually that’s not true, the bots have been even worse.
This is the exact reason I’ve decided to stop commenting on videos I like, cause then I get bombarded with comments from people spamming that I’m a bot. Honestly TH-cam needs to fix this!
Mr crabs mr crabs
I doubt they'll fix anything except joe
@@engineergaming5989 who is your mom?
@@Neon_Ade3 bob
@@Neon_Ade3 joe balls
It's ironic how TH-cam is making content creators guidelines more restrictive to appeal to children, yet the comment section bots are absolutely abhorrent and not child friendly.
Also kind of funny, that TH-cam makes an app for children,only to tell the main app to be more family friendly.
@@EXILED_SHADOW EXACTLY THEY COULD DO A TH-cam KIDS LIKE THEY HAVE A TH-cam RED
@@johnpablo2772 they have yt kids wdym
@@notthatntg Dude it’s still connected to fcking TH-cam all they did was put all the kid videos in one area
It’s still TH-cam
All the kid videos that’s on TH-cam that you can’t comment on are just moved to one side of TH-cam
I’m saying a WHOLE SEPARATE app strictly for kids and nothing but kid videos not TH-cam moving videos to a playlist
That way we adults can comment and talk shit about the new kid movie that just came out
Or share some nostalgia with other people in the comments
@@EXILED_SHADOW While locking comment threads of videos and thus denying fans the fight to express their thoughts
I have a feeling TH-cam might use this as an excuse to disable comments entirely, the same way they did to the dislike counter.
we’ll have to comment using a pre set wheel like in among us
@@zimbim7562 lmfao😭😂
@@zimbim7562 zim bim is suspicious
100%
This is why Rumble and Odysee are the new TH-cams.
I say this as someone who had an account in 2004, lost it in 2012, and then made this one I have now.
TH-cam is dead.
Meh, the comment section is an intellectual cesspool neways…always had been since youtube started…
And now TH-cam shadowbans completely normal comments without the creator or user knowing about it. I rather see occasional bots than being constantly censored and yt pretending the comment is still there, making people waste their time talking into the void.
What’s also has been a flaw is that when a comment has many replies and you’d want to see the first reply. You’d have to continuously click the “view more comments” or something button, and takes so long to reach the top to correctly follow their discussion.
I swear if TH-cam's answer to this problem is a "captcha", I quit. Imagine having to "select each image that include stop lights" just to say, "great vid keep it up."
Don't give youtube ideas.
Doesn't sound like a bad idea tbh. 4chan does something similar where you do 1 captcha and you can post comments for like a 10 or so minutes before having to do the captcha again
ThioJoe created a free tool to delete all spam instantly. (Sorry for writing here, I want Charlie to see this)
PUTIN IS THE BEST!
@@ViewOf shit you don't even need to use it, you can still get rid of a lot of them with the tools youtube gives.
Those MrBeast bots are so annoying
Like you?
🙂
What's up check mark.
@@Jlk9711 apparantly all verified people are bots now
Oh no! A check mark!
The internet is pretty old and all old things die.
Im sure going to miss the "good old days".
:(
Seeing how bad this shit is on Instagram as well, I have little hope that this will be resolved. It is so much easier to get through restrictions, than it is to make them.
Yeah, as someone who runs an insta page for a business, bot comments on Insta have gotten REALLY bad
@@DuDe3810 do u go and manually delete some of these inappropriate bot comments?
@@SixtenD On insta I was going and reporting the pages so that they would be blocked from my page, but there are so many bots I just completely gave up
Verified comment bots give a bad reputation to smaller verified youtubers:'(
Edit: I meant that all the comments on a verified ytber comment are just "comment bot" nowadays. Even if that person isnt a bot. It's annoying to see it everyday. That's what I mean with bad reputation.
Verification doesn't mean shit. To me, a small youtuber who went and hunted that check-mark has validation issues and are starving for attention.
U cant fool me u bot >:(
@@Kurimi13 I mean, it's meant to denote that the content creator is the real content creator and not an impersonator. Makes sense for anyone who makes content to get the checkmark, but yeah, bots having it does render it meaningless.
TH-cam shouldn't push verified comments up so much. Most verified creators post one sentence comments that don't add shit (no offense).
About 8 out of the top 10 comments are verified users on this vid, it's ridiculous.
Are you perhaps a bot?
This is why I like smaller creators, they do not get as many bots.
I try to avoid commenting a bit more on bigger channels because like you said my notifications are going through the roof whenever I do
it has been getting worse in the past year since I loved commenting but nowadays I get accused of stuff like this because of these guys copy pasting comments
I can't tell if your real or not :(
@Chounyuu Chad this guy is real, he actually uploads
Shut up
Thank you, mr playlist maker
@@oldgreggsmadmemes4431 you can literally just click his channel to see if you don't know it's real or not
I feel so bad for Jack, I don't watch him often, but he really doesn't deserve the hate, especially when it comes to an extremely sensitive subject like his dad's death
@Louiebruh2 you get bullied at school
@Louiebruh2 Dude, you're so funny hahah-... How many time have you hit your head today?
@@Quaquadaqu youre so funny everybody is laughing
@@ireland5040 thank you
Jeez man did you see patrick asshole fishes comment, I can't put into words how evil you have to be to say that shit about a guys dead dad
I love how TH-cam was more worried about removing dislikes instead of fixing or even addressing the comment issue.
2 years later...nothing's changed
And now we also get TH-cam not showing any support to the little content creators.
@@gamerchosis6666 😊😊😈😡🤬🤬🥶😎🤓😊🤣😂😉😉
POV: You’re searching through the TH-cam comment replies looking for a bot.
How did you know.
are you a bot??? i don't even know anymore. who's real and whos not
god damn it how did you know?
@@guccimane8310Honestly same😢
Everyone : “TH-cam fix your comment section”
TH-cam : “How about we delete the entire section from existence”
Sadly that’s such a realistic possibility 😂
@@edotensei5022 TH-cam will delete the comment section for the public to prevent user harassment but let the creator still be able to see what is said lol
Aren't you legit one of the prime copy and paste candidates
This style of comments is what I thought the video was going to be about.
That’s honestly what I imagine they’ll do.
I think we can all agree that charlies devine way of breathing air makes us all feel a tickle in our pants!
Hey Charlie
I just wanna see if it’s true.
I'll believe no bot will ever say this
6:01
Lol
Saddest thing is yt still hasn't fixed it even in w
2023
It’s not a bug, done on purpose 😉
@@TonyTouch23for the MONEY 🤑🤑
Keep up doing the great work, we are here to support you.
Seriously tho, TH-cam needs to sort this out fr.
fr, especially the comments that are like “can we appreciate how much effort _____ puts into bringing us videos” probably one of the most annoying bot comments
Yo inteNsify here?!
Just dropped a new EP hope you guys like it its called TOMMY INNIT ???
Hey I'm making heaters over here stop by
damn this shit has really gotten bad i dont even look at replies anymore for this reason
I'm glad that you and Jack are talking about this issue on TH-cam, I wish TH-cam would fix this bot/spam comment problem that is going on for months instead of removing something unnecessary like the dislikes.
Well Thiojoe has made a Programm Wich autodetects and bans these bots
But somehow the news of it really doesn't spread at all.
(spamming it right now so it actually spreads a little)
@Beast 😈 No one gives a shish,bot trash
@Beast 😈 oh look a bot
@Beast 😈 another Bot, seriously?
@Beast😈 Ah fck nah
The sad thing is their solution to combat bots and spam will probably be worse.
Something I noticed is that there's way more shadowbanning now to the point where it feels like it's wrongfully suppressing dissent.
In some cases it's the channel owner or mods that shadowban people but other times, it's youtube bots and there's clearly something wrong with their bots. Like they obviously have some bots trying to detect offensive comments, harassment/bullying and it doesn't work because AI can't detect sarcasm or understand context well enough.
I’m sure TH-cam will take this as a sign that they need to break the platform more.
ive had my comments disappear after a minute of posting. yet sex bots on a platform full of kids are running a muck
Yeah ikr, the anti-harassment AI on TH-cam is absolutely terrible, it hid my comments from another person when we were just having a friendly discussion about Tsukihime and for some reason actual harassment gets through to the comment sections no problem
@@A--Fan All I'm gonna say is, my comments are getting hidden for much, MUCH less triggerwords than yours, so consider yourself lucky. Technical long comments of mine get hidden for technical terms with double meaning... e.g. what do you do with an .exe file? You exec*** it, and that's it for my comment. You got more triggerwords in there than I got in all of my shadowbanned comments together. The AI acts in mysterious ways
@@A--Fan Would you like to clarify if you deleted your response or you got shadowbanned again? I saw your reply in my notifications but not here.
"Vocassen It does, yeah. And it's choosey as well. The person I was arguing against wasn't shadowbanned, and I'm sure they were saying them just as often. The..."
Rip @A Fan, murdered mid-sentence by TH-cam AI, 2022-2022
2 years later and it got so worse.
Wouldn't you fellow humans agree that this content creator is the best human of all time? I am human.
If you're human, tell me how you praise the Emperor.
Hello my fellow human and yes I also too agree that this content creator is the best human ever to exist and yes I am too also totally a human
Take me to your- oh this is him
@@spacemarine6212 sacrificing a 1,000 souls for his blessed name
@@kimchi3335 correct. Specifically heretical xenos or those chaos cultists.
Charlie, thank you very much for addressing this issue.
The type of bots I hate most are the ones that say terrible things about Markiplier’s late niece and Jack’s late father. These really need to be dealt with and wiped off the platform as soon as possible.
This is not the guy from Passionate of the Christ. They lied to me
@@noble0155 Why, hello there Mr. Part-of-the-problem.
@F#СК МЕ. СНЕCK MY РR0FILЕ ok bot
And also the ones about Jaiden Animations' eating disorder, which is just, like, why?
I agree but why do these dudes make family passings or who passed pbblic? Ig you have to have a reason to take a break but u don't have to say who, coz u know they're gonna bully u
well this aged well
Ayo facts
cant talk to no one anyone
@@namjoonie936 theres literally a reason as to why i believe in the dead internet theory.
switched to tiktok and now there’s this uttp shit or smth like that talkin about “my child p is better than charlie’s videos!”
@@prodbyshuri666 okay?
i recently watched a video where apparently "only verified people could comment", due to the comment filter i guess. However, majority of the comments on the video was these bots (or spam channels for that matter). It ruins the experience of a video if i should be fair. This should be discussed more often
@Don't read profile photo oh bug off
@Don't read profile photo okey.
@Don't read profile photo POV: We didn’t ask
verified channels shouldn't get top comments
@Don't read profile photo OMG ITS A BOT COMMENTING ON A VIDEO ABOUT BOTS RUINING COMMENTS!
The big problem with all the bots and ways of fixing them being bypassed is due to one amazing thing about programming and coding that is a double edged sword. There are millions of ways to program the same exact action through all kinds of languages, so if one way is banned, or 1000 more ways are banned, the bot hosters will whip up a new code in no time and keep hosting (usually they are rented out to spam certain bots/messages).
This can all be solved with a simple run of the mill captcha
@@undefinedchannel9916 honestly if I had to do a captcha before every comment I made I'd probably say a lot less dumb shit
@@hughjanus2252 Same. It probably would apply to a lot of other people too.
That’s not how programming works, but the idea is there. The problem is that security is a cat and mouse game, it never ends.
It’s not like you can make a bot in C# and if it gets banned you can rewrite it in Python and it’s fine.
@@cthecheese i think a good way to counter it is to play the cat and mouse game, where you let it fester abit so that they can be easily identified, then ban them, then add a new option in the report description such as bot, it would be sent to a human team which would check them all, or ban all accounts on the platform, and in order to get in, you need to so a test to check whether your not a bot, do this differently and you can kill off bots, im not really a tech guy so i dont know wether it works though
I can’t wait for another platform to come along and be more beneficial to creators. Platforms like TH-cam, Twitter and Facebook treat their users/creators like crap and get away with it because they basically hold a monopoly on their chosen form of social media. We need more competition out there to force these platforms to start LISTENING to their user’s concerns and actually DO SOMETHING about it. It’s a toxic relationship.
I really don't think we'll see another platform compete with TH-cam in the same way unless it gets some serious money thrown its way, and can be worthy enough to drag away some big names. But who has that money, and actually cares?
I really want that too, but unfortunately I don't think it's gonna happen anytime soon. A new site would need serious money to come anywhere near TH-cam or other platforms.
A big problem alternative platforms have been having is that it doesn’t take long until the toxic people that have been reasonably banned from the major platforms start flooding in, more than the fledgling moderation team can handle.
Then the major platforms weaponize that to shame the alts out of business.
Not to mention the massive jump in resource usage that startups rarely are prepared for, turning the site into a sluggish nightmare that drives more people out, and once the company can afford the bandwidth and storage and whatnot, it’s likely too late.
I really loved this site bcz you can just watch videos of my favourite creators and not interact with ppl. But ever since they removed the like button i cant stomach it. I hope another website as good as early youtube appears
There is a very much popular platform whose name starts with an O
and then there's a dye with no e,
and then there's a see
I'm not gonna write it because that how much I truly trust this site (it wouldn't surprise me at all if this sort of comment got flagged and the account that wrote it becomes an eternal undesirable with the same perks as the lowering of your soc. credit score in the eastern far lands)
I got inked by a octopus then Zeus came out of the ground and started giving me therapy
"The bots have taken over the comments"
Me: **intensely looking for botted comments**
Lmao
I wanted to like this comment but there is already 69 likes 😤
@@henrygarza1295 m
I can’t find the usual flood of them either. Did they finally fix it?
@@tylerredding75 they might've but I doubt it. I've seen a few ones that are weeks and sometimes months old
We’ve literally entered the “red scare” era of TH-cam. NOONE knows if people who compliment vids are genuine or bots posing as real people.
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@Ballsdeep69 My name is Klein! 👋
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You and Jack are our fucking champions with this man. Maybe TH-cam will actually listen to you guys.
Let’s hope so.
@YeaMan I know you’re a bot, but if your creator sees this, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.
@YeaMan You just prove Charlie’s and Jack’s reason of YT’s problem, lmao.
To Quote Shrek - "Like that's ever gonna happen."
Doubt. TH-cam dont give a shit
I get ones that are like call what ever number to claim your prize and they usually have the popular youtubers pfp
TH-cam: We turned off the comment section permanently to solve the problem of overwhelming comment bots.
And Apollo has spoken
Oh no. I can actually see this happening.
Hey, I'm making heaters over here, stop by :)
thats good
@@DFGoblin I'm gon bite you
Literally Everyone: "Hey TH-cam, can you do your job and deal with the rampant bots?"
TH-cam: "No, but here are some NFTs"
TH-cam: no I will not put the dislike button back
youtube's pulling a roblox at this point
They remove dislikes to promote government propaganda
They keep bots around to promote hores
What's next on TH-cam's evils-to-promote list, pedophiles?
@@GM_Neo hores?
Guess what word TH-cam bots delete
when they removed dislikes i knew it was only downhill from there
Ikr… like they removed people’s opinions… weird way of censorship
@Assassin just say offensive content instead of hate speech, because speech can be hateful in anyway and sometimes you can easily mix hate speech with a plain joke
I am Charlie's godfather. Click to find out more!
It's not gonna go uphill anytime soon.
@@aabahdjfisosososos if youre able to confuse a joke and hate speech, your joke is fucking terrible
TH-cam deletes my comments and messing with conversations I’m having, keeps showing 0 comments before I click to expand comments, and temporarily muted me for “targeting and bullying” when me and someone had been arguing back and forth, equally yet I got muted, and I only said the comment that got me muted which wasn’t even that bad, because he tried starting up the argument again after it ended. If it happens two more times my account I’ve had for years is deleted, and they didn’t even email me or give me any response about it.
I just got hit with a 24-hour ban yesterday, right after I made a comment on one of those 'true crime' videos about why you should hire a lawyer when you are accused of MURDER... I was just chiming in with the others who were also saying similar shit on that video, and was NOT trying to harass or troll anyone. That 24-hour ban notice claimed that I was guilty of cyberbullying, racial discrimination, animal abuse, and sexual harassment. These Zionist Jevvtube motherfuckers are hella PARANOID!!! 😡
9:20 "and... scamming each other."
I just love the idea that these bots are all that's left and they just keep trying to scam each other repeatedly like that key and peele skit
wait which one? HAVE I NOT WATCHED THAT ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!???????
@@muaz5515 when a con man cons a con man, or sum like that. enjoy it! it’s a decent skit
@@billybamboom cool
@@billybamboom ooh that one ive watched it alrdy
whats a "con man" is that like a scam company or something?
@@muaz5515 think scam company, but an individual actor with no support network. A scam artist. That's a con man.
We can all agree that he never disappoints us with his content !!
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(this was just a prank pls don't kill me)
@Louiebruh1 dude
The hell lmao, you invited some bots with that comment style
@@cybersentient4758 lol
he got like 5 bots in less than 2 minutes 😭
My god they’ve become smart enough to say it’s just a prank bro
Why can't TH-cam just put an "Are you a robot" test for the comments?
@@FeuerfesteUnterhose facts
They will just find a way to bypass it anyway so it’s more inconvenient for everyone else if anything.
@@Nomadic7z I mean they could, but Google’s recapture is impossible to complete unless you’re a human. So, those spam bots would need to be verified manually.
Cause that would be too much
Hello, I confirm I am not a bot.
“It’s crazy how many people come back to this every day. This song is legendary.”
“Let’s be real. This wasn’t in your recommended. You searched for it.”
-Every bot
Penguinz0 is trash, I’m better, I have heat on my paige.
"Who's watching / listening in [insert year here]? :0" is another one
@@MrShadic140 people actually do make those comments. I’ve physically seen people type it out. It’s cringey as fuck. I’m sure bots do it more but regular people see them and think it’s cool, so they comment it also.
@@Rountree1985 just treat them as bots even if they are actual ppl /j
@@Rountree1985 To each their own. Personally I do enjoy it when I search for something deliberately and am reminded by someone in the comments of the fact.
Potential fixes:
Users are given temp bans from commenting and are manually reviewed if they have hyper repetitious comment histories indicating spam
Have regular review of verified channels and a higher standard of verification to confirm they are legitimate and produce original content
Generally improve the review system so that reports of spam are actually dealt with
TH-cam's likely solution:
We've removed verification for non-corporate accounts for the mental health of our creators
we've removed comments for the mental health of our creators and so people can have a voice
Black nuts
@@Cmin480 fax broski 🙏🙏
Bruh knowing TH-cam, they would just remove the damn Comment Section.
Hard disagree. TH-cam already deletes the comments of people for no reason
Yeah I was so confused and disappointed in TH-cam about this problem. Thanks Sean and Charlie for shedding light on this
One thing that is extremely strange and annoying is that if a bot says the exact same thing over and over again, youtube never bats an eye and. But if I did the same thing, my channel would be deleted and people would bully me on social media.
Real
TH-cam is like gotham, and Charlie is batman. He can fight it, but he can never change it.
Very epic comment man
True on that.
@Louiebruh2 POV: No Bitches
@@Yonlrz how did you not get censored?
@UCB2cpTkp_doUAsT5L1rmBlw bro go away
I bet if TH-cam does decide to fix this... Everyone is going to have to complete a reCAPTCHA test before commenting. They always come up with the worst possible ways to solve problems, just like removing the dislike button.
reCAPTCHA doesn't even work. I learned that the hard way
In truth, TH-cam could less of a fuck about the users.
Bruh no dont even say that O.O
@@Ilikeeminleggings how can you learn it the hard way lol
@K fr man needs to explain himself
you mentioned that there's no way to combat the comment bots, but i'm fairly certain that's not true? i'm pretty sure linus tech tips made a video covering a programme that you can run to like completely wipe out comment bots, and it even has different levels based on how deep you want to clean your comments
That *is* true, but it's very inefficient for large TH-camrs and the API limits make it mostly impossible to delete everything!
Commenters can use the tool to mass report spam comments but this is something TH-cam could easily code a fix for.
of course there are ways to combat these bots. problem is youtube is too obsessed with making money that they don't focus on any other issue but that.
It's almost like dislikes at least helped with this
Man it feels like the number of bots in this video's comment section is ironically substantially worse
Is Linus Tech Tips trans? I got freaked out on one time under a Destiny video because I apparently “misgendered” Linus tech tips (person wasn’t joking btw).
Let's just hope that their "solution" to this problem won't be to force everyone to verify their account via their ID or a credit card
You're giving them ideas!
Oh it will be
You already have to do that in Europe if you wanna watch age restricted videos
@@ripvanwinkle7689 that's understandable, but Id for an account? That's stupid.
@@ripvanwinkle7689 I think it's mostly western Europe, tho. I'm from Europe, in the EU and for me it is arbitrarily toggled, sometimes inconsistently across platforms.
TH-cam would probably just remove the comment section as a “solution”. Also, charlie should check up that video about those verified accounts. Tldr for that vid is… legit verified acc, gets hack, gets sold, becomes bot
This is not the guy from Passionate of the Christ. They lied to me
I've even watched livestreams here on YT and there were bots somehow tipping real money to send superchats telling people to check out their (obviously fake) content/channel. It's wild
The Webcam bots with the Red arrow pfp that spam streams are the most annoying
Free money I guess
One of the comments I hate the most are the ones who completely alienate their original point by editing the comment when they get 60 likes and say “OMG THANKS FOR ALL THE LIKES!!!1!1!1!”
Example:
“Rest in peace gramma, fly high
Edit: OMG THANKS FOR THE LIKES IM FAMOUS”
Who knows what else they edited!
I noticed this happening for months. Im genuinely surprised its taken this long for somebody to say something and its gone on for this long without youtube fixing it.
@Louiebruh2 imagine waiting 9 months of pain and labour and you are the result of it
@@cee_jay_mcc7914 i would have him put down so this diarrhea stain of a human being doesn't have to exist anymore
@Louiebruh2 Exhibit A
@Louiebruh2I can sense the 10 year old energy just from that entire paragraph.
I personally haven't left a youtube comment in a long time. Everyone discussing this issue made me want to post one though. Its honestly ridiculous. I remember having conversations at one point in the comment sections that I actually enjoyed. Just talking about what the creator was doing or something funny that happened. Now I stay out of the comment section as a whole. I can't listen to a video and laugh along to other viewers commenting because its nothing but spam and bots! This needs to be fixed.
I agree. But disagreeing sounds more fun, so I’m going to disagree. Please disregard me agreeing.
This video is a stinky my videos are better
@@Ma7ee7 Im Making heaters over here stop by
@@Ma7ee7 December 1st, 2021
@@danielbaggs shit no kidding so am I my house is on fire in my new video
In an alternate reality, every single person that watched this video would have commented “Your consistency and quality never disappoints!”
hey im making heaters over here, stop by
His consistency and quality never dissappoints!
@@ExxonYT you’re making heaters? Is it really cold where you are or something? How do you make a heater?
@@CosmicTrollstopper and yet you still have no bitches?
@@2FadeMusic Let me tell you about the sparks and "plugs" ... and then you pull youre cable out and it stops working ... Thats where heaters come from
7 months later, situation has only gotten worse, no solution in sight, rip my inbox if the bots find this
I used to really enjoy commenting on videos I like, but since around 1 year and when I received my checkmark it just became less and less enjoyable.
Because some of the checkmarked channels as you mentioned do shit like that, you will just receive weird comments even if you are an actual person who just wanted to write a comment. TH-cam really has to work on this.
Looking at these replies, I definitely see what you mean
Bro your reply section is filled with people who are about to get banned 😂
Lmao ^
This content is garbage, I’m making straight bangers on my channel!
Click here!
Yep, they're here
Ill never forget that the official youtube "response" in the comment section of their "why we're disabling youtube dislikes" had more bots replying to it than actual people. It really does speak volumes to the quality of the website imo. Is youtube going to fix it? Nah, doesn't cut into their bottom line. Not like mass disliking corporate garbage videos does.
aaaand there they go
@@jjjjjjjjjjjmmmmmmm4461 bruh :D
@Louiebruh3 I like how you talk about jacks father like u ever had one LMAOOO
THIS ISNT EVEN A JACKSEPTICEYE VIDEO LMAO
PUTIN IS THE BEST!!!!
I AM THE BEST TH-camR EVER!!!!
Glad to see big names FINALLY talking about this problem, especially since some of these scam sites can lead to videos with underage. . . "preformers"
How do you know?
@@joeybaseball7352 I searched up the name of a scam site in Google videos, and one of the scam sites listed had it
@@_yoshivolts_115 so you watched it
@@fyqulqul_4556 the police and people who report these crimes have watched that kind of stuff too. Seeing the content itself isn’t inherently a crime
@@SudZistheOne jus admit you like watching kiddy corn dawg
It’s sad that the comments have changed a lot
The most annoying bots I’ve seen:
- annoying copy and paste stuff
- racist or hateful stuff by edgy bots (edit: specifically the stuff about a famous TH-camrs dead relative)
- phishing
-mY cAnTeNt Iz BetTuR ThEn YeRz!
-stealing other people’s comments
(Edited to add more!)
And all of them are likebotted. Can't even tell which reply is more liked actually
"mY CoNTeNt iS MucH bETteR"
Oh and don’t forget
That one kid with 10Alt accounts making dumb comments
The ones that make fun of jacksepticeye dad
@@paskit219 yeah you can find those accounts in inside edition. When someone dies they just say
“HAHA ROTTING IN HELL NOW💀”
I saw loads that have > in them and whatsapp numbers, replying with rocket emojis.
Makes no sense.
There's another version of bots that Charlie didn't cover, and it's ironic how my first experience seeing this kind of bot was on his channel a couple videos back. I've also seen it on countless other channels, and they're basically slandering and accusing the creator of doing some really fucked up shit, or sometimes just straight up harassing them.
With my first experience, in some wacky text font, there was a spam bot in the replies saying something along the lines of "charlie (something highly illegal) a 9 year old girl -> (a link to a vid). It genuinely made me nauseous and sick to my soul that TH-cam hasn't fixed this problem whatsoever, and it's only getting worse by the minute.
Update: And now there seems to be bots promoting literal pedophilia. What a fucked up world we live in
It's pisses me off to no end that someone would even have a bot type that shit out
I took a screenshot of it yesterday to show my friend because I was just so disgusted, like what the actual fuck???
ThioJoe created a free tool to delete all spam instantly. (Sorry for writing here, I want Charlie to see this)
Those aren't as popular I suspect since I haven't seen any of them but that is still fucked up shit
PUTIN IS THE BEST!
5:09
I keep tapping and tapping it doesn't work
It's funny you mentioned skynet because I use this to see if my comments go through.