It might actually be easier (or at least not harder) with your eyes closed as you won't try to focus on the rings and be disturbed by the camera movements. At this point, this level is all about rhythm...
Oh yeah, I mean I found this *super* easy by just listening over trying to watch the shitshow that was a terrible camera. I love this game but lordy be. Yay musicians!
This was actually my first attempt at this after a year of not playing it :) Someone had dared me to try it. I was just as surprised as anyone else haha
I think im able to do it in one attempt even though I have never played the game just because its just about follow the beat and i have listened this song thousands of times cause keiichi okabe is my favourite composser hahaha if you follow every single beat in the song all the rings are there except maybe three or four triplets,its easy if you feel the music like snozeman!
People who complain about the camera are treating it as a reaction game, but it's really a rhythm game. You only need to see the first emission to understand that you need to hit the button four beats after each. Of course, it gets tricky when they don't necessarily come at the beginning of a bar, the tempo changes, and when the sequences are long.
You're technically right but there's still a shocking amount of delay to Mikhail's shield coming out. You basically need to press it on the -a before the note hits.
@@prismaticseal2553 the music continues through the dialogue. The tubular bells play quarter notes, so you can easily stay in time. They did well to not make this last part ofmthe game too hard for the layman. If a musical person designed this boss and wanted to be unfair, I'd put quintuplets starting on the off beat, nested tuplets inside them, change between duplet and triplet rhythms within a single bar, unquantised rhythms, and polyrhythms, and so on. They took great care to make it accessible, and yet people still rage and call it the hardest boss of all time.
@@sozellicus if you're locked onto the time signature, then you shouldn't have a concept of a second. I don't know why people use the talking as markers when the music is still playing.
I like how Taro screws the player at the end. The whole segment is: [Melody] [Pause] [Melody] And in the end as the BPM drop the pause gets longer and the last note hits shortly after Zero trows you off. What a sadist. 10/10 would not play again.
I did the same, the whole song with my eyes closed, one hand "conducting" the song as I countered the rings. Beat it that try, never felt so relieved; 100% done with the whole game.
@@youraftermyrobotbee you can just feel it. The tubular bells play quarter notes through the talking, and the last note is on the off beat on the 4, like how jazz music often starts the melody on the 4 off beat of the previous bar to give it swing.
It doesn't help that the last note doesn't even have a chime to help you time it out as the beat slows down. It just goes black and you have to guess which beat you're supposed to hit. F this sequence to hell.
if you look at the screen your just doing it wrong except maybe the last note which match up with the second Mikhail line, for anyone curious you dont even need to memorize the song all you need is to know the first ring timing for every part, literally the hardest part is when it slows down at the end.
I'm so happy for this man, I recently managed to beat it and it soundd crazy but it's actually easier without watching and only hearing the song. A well deserved victory against the most unfair and tough rythmic section ever.
@@DiogoLZ It's way harder than Dark Souls. Dark Souls is nothing compared to a racing simulator. I'm not sure you know the difference between a racing game and simulator. It's hard to even get around a track in practice mode on a simulator. It takes hundreds of hours of practice even to win on the lowest difficulty out of 20 difficulty settings. But even some of Accords requests are harder than the final song.
Someone please never ever let Yoko Taru make something like this in a video game. As unless your some sort of god and memorize the rythem of the entire song these no way to do this without dying millions of times
You don't need to memorize it at all. You press the button a bar after the ring is launched. Stop spouting misinformation. Thinks my favourite part of the whole game.
Ikr, no game has ever given me such anxiety even with my eyes open. I just loathed the idea of having to watch the intro start up for the 300th time like I was gonna die or something, it got even worse with the camera suddenly zooming in and out and frame drops.
@@Shade04rek what if I told you that the musicians who actually play the music don't have a visual aid keeping them in rhythm, plus they have to remember a lot more notes than you remember for this boss?
i had streamed this game about a year prior to this and wanted to replay this section because it was so memorable. the fun thing about this moment was that this was my second attempt at it on a dare :)
The. Last. Fucking. Note. There's no way I can get that without making sure I know it's when Zero answers Mickail, or by clicking the buttons all the time to make sure I'm taking it. xD
is simple, if you focus in image of this game you lost perception of timing to press at right moment, but if you memorize the time betwen the sound and the moment when touch dragon, is much more easier, when i play this game i do the same thing, its almost impossible to finish this game if you stay focus on imagen in this part of the game. well always have exception, but i believe this game was made to sense the rhythm in this part. but is sad to me because the choreography and art design to this part is wonderful
Worst parts are One's with that nonsense rhythm part+input lag, and the last part with 8 notes but with a skipped note, because INPUT LAG, goddamn lmao.
here after about four hours of attempts. I have no issue except for the last two notes... the second to last is slightly out of sync (not one full measure) and obviously the last one is right on mikhails response. any tips for hitting that second to last one? all I can think of is using the vocals as reference... usually i can keep the beat but that one is offbeat
even if i try this my eyes closed, i don't think i would be able to beat it. also, there's trap at the near end. where Mikail starts to talking, and you think it's over, but it's not. i think there is like 2 more hit to do. for f***'s sake
@@Zero-fx8pc This one isn't even hard. Try playing a future sonic jazz song. It's harder to just play future sonic jazz music than do this boss. DOMI or JD Beck would beat this boss on second try, and first if not for the last two notes.
Man, I could never get anywhere with this boss. And then you just go and do it with your eyes closed. That said, I actually understand that this boss is based around rhythm and you don't really need to look at the screen to beat it. I'm just really bad at rhythm games.
I raged quit and never played the game again after failing at the beginning having to wait for it to reload and then wait for the cutscene. Why didn't they think to put check points and a practice run or tutorial?
@@__-tz6xx Yoko Taro wanted it to be incredibly difficult, because what you are doing here, is saving the world. The act of saving the world is not easy, hence, this boss fight isn't either.
@@ghost23661 Oh yeah, too many games are way too easy. Especially RPGs where you can just grind levels and gear and one shot the final boss and save the world. In the game all your gear and levels and personal experience playing action RPGs is thrown out the window. Even with a button prompt video this was really difficult for me. Definitely felt like I was fighting to save the world lol.
@@zemenerrichey1980 I must be messed up in the head because I loved the time I spent trying to beat this. I'd go to work and just think about coming back home to grind it some more, then I'd get home and go straight to grinding it. Even though I used a guide, I felt like I was getting better at it gradually, and it did feel like saving the world.
@@ghost23661 It did get addictive lol. I would not mind playing a full Drakengard or Nier game like that. Maybe with more forgiving difficulty options though lol.
Man,this fight is awesome,better than the Queen beast,why Zero had to kill her sisters that badly,so interesting and funny at the same time,talk about a dysfunctional family!
this was done about 2 years ago. i had spent maybe 6-7 hours on stream getting through it the first time. i came back to it some months later and someone dared me to try it with my eyes closed, then this video happened haha
It might actually be easier (or at least not harder) with your eyes closed as you won't try to focus on the rings and be disturbed by the camera movements. At this point, this level is all about rhythm...
Farowa45 after this, I do find it easier to do with my eyes closed
@@sozellicus nonetheless it's still a feat ! gg
Oh yeah, I mean I found this *super* easy by just listening over trying to watch the shitshow that was a terrible camera. I love this game but lordy be. Yay musicians!
@@DuskTheBard The camera angles are intentional to give a hint to not pay attention to the screen lol
I had learned to do this with my eyes closed as well, it's sort of necessary if you want multiple attempts at that stupid fucking last note.
When you have the whole song memorized after such trial and error.
This was actually my first attempt at this after a year of not playing it :) Someone had dared me to try it. I was just as surprised as anyone else haha
@@sozellicus What a madlad
I think im able to do it in one attempt even though I have never played the game just because its just about follow the beat and i have listened this song thousands of times cause keiichi okabe is my favourite composser hahaha if you follow every single beat in the song all the rings are there except maybe three or four triplets,its easy if you feel the music like snozeman!
@@rvmusic2599 same dude. Love this song and listened to it so many times that I would be able to do the same
People who complain about the camera are treating it as a reaction game, but it's really a rhythm game. You only need to see the first emission to understand that you need to hit the button four beats after each. Of course, it gets tricky when they don't necessarily come at the beginning of a bar, the tempo changes, and when the sequences are long.
I believe this is the reason why it was easier to do with my eyes closed rather than by looking at the screen.
What about when dialogue starts but the sequence isnt over?
You're technically right but there's still a shocking amount of delay to Mikhail's shield coming out. You basically need to press it on the -a before the note hits.
It doesn't get tricky.
@@prismaticseal2553 the music continues through the dialogue. The tubular bells play quarter notes, so you can easily stay in time. They did well to not make this last part ofmthe game too hard for the layman. If a musical person designed this boss and wanted to be unfair, I'd put quintuplets starting on the off beat, nested tuplets inside them, change between duplet and triplet rhythms within a single bar, unquantised rhythms, and polyrhythms, and so on. They took great care to make it accessible, and yet people still rage and call it the hardest boss of all time.
HES SEEING THE VISION OF THE GODS
Well done! I broke my controller after miss that one last note
Don’t worry; you’re not alone. I heard that some people broke multiple controllers just from this boss and they were screwed by that note.
it's like a second after you hear Zero say "Yeah?"
@@sozellicus That's the only way for you to get it, because at that point, there's no music at all for you to be guided by a the tempo or anything.
@@sozellicus if you're locked onto the time signature, then you shouldn't have a concept of a second. I don't know why people use the talking as markers when the music is still playing.
@@scary5455 because it works
I like how Taro screws the player at the end. The whole segment is:
[Melody] [Pause] [Melody]
And in the end as the BPM drop the pause gets longer and the last note hits shortly after Zero trows you off. What a sadist. 10/10 would not play again.
I did the same, the whole song with my eyes closed, one hand "conducting" the song as I countered the rings. Beat it that try, never felt so relieved; 100% done with the whole game.
@Christian Longo it's a lot easier, if you feel the beat it becomes kinda easy, sight confuses you
How did you get the very last note?
@@youraftermyrobotbee you can just feel it. The tubular bells play quarter notes through the talking, and the last note is on the off beat on the 4, like how jazz music often starts the melody on the 4 off beat of the previous bar to give it swing.
He laughs at the start cuz he knows he’s a madman
Probably the only final boss possible to beat with eyes closed.
A imagine if yoko taro was gaven power over a final fantasy game
th-cam.com/video/fr9OEKNbElQ/w-d-xo.html :)
@@sozellicus yeah, he is a mad lad
As if it couldn't be more unfair they make the screen black.
Try being hard of hearing! LOL!
It doesn't help that the last note doesn't even have a chime to help you time it out as the beat slows down. It just goes black and you have to guess which beat you're supposed to hit. F this sequence to hell.
Dude this is awesome. I can't even complete Drakengard 1 & 3 lmao
You did amazing Soze! I'm proud of you homie. Glad you put this on TH-cam!
It's easy when you learn rythmes
if you look at the screen your just doing it wrong except maybe the last note which match up with the second Mikhail line, for anyone curious you dont even need to memorize the song all you need is to know the first ring timing for every part, literally the hardest part is when it slows down at the end.
I'm so happy for this man, I recently managed to beat it and it soundd crazy but it's actually easier without watching and only hearing the song. A well deserved victory against the most unfair and tough rythmic section ever.
I just gave up and watched a video on what happens after. This boss is harder than anything in dark souls.
I did the same. I beated every souls game you can imagine, but this boss, no thanks, i'll just pass.
Dark Souls must be easy then.
@@DiogoLZ Literally any racing simulator game is harder than Dark Souls. Try beat the max AI in Assetto Corsa Competizione in a 10 minute race.
@@scary5455 Nah, racing games are not my cup of tea.
@@DiogoLZ It's way harder than Dark Souls. Dark Souls is nothing compared to a racing simulator. I'm not sure you know the difference between a racing game and simulator. It's hard to even get around a track in practice mode on a simulator. It takes hundreds of hours of practice even to win on the lowest difficulty out of 20 difficulty settings. But even some of Accords requests are harder than the final song.
Someone please never ever let Yoko Taru make something like this in a video game.
As unless your some sort of god and memorize the rythem of the entire song these no way to do this without dying millions of times
It took me... I think maybe 6 hours of trying the first time I got it?
You don't need to memorize it at all. You press the button a bar after the ring is launched. Stop spouting misinformation.
Thinks my favourite part of the whole game.
初見clearあるある。終わったあとのセリフを達成感で聞き逃す()
This is very impressive, superbly done
Wow! Well done!
I can redo this with only a few tries, but doing it with your eyes closed is too anxiety inducing, and this already gives me enough anxiety
Ikr, no game has ever given me such anxiety even with my eyes open. I just loathed the idea of having to watch the intro start up for the 300th time like I was gonna die or something, it got even worse with the camera suddenly zooming in and out and frame drops.
I think this proves that it's all about the rhythm. Eyes and camera are only a distraction.
@@Shade04rek what if I told you that the musicians who actually play the music don't have a visual aid keeping them in rhythm, plus they have to remember a lot more notes than you remember for this boss?
It's a rhythm game based on hearing, not sight. That's why it's.... easier
i had streamed this game about a year prior to this and wanted to replay this section because it was so memorable. the fun thing about this moment was that this was my second attempt at it on a dare :)
The. Last. Fucking. Note.
There's no way I can get that without making sure I know it's when Zero answers Mickail, or by clicking the buttons all the time to make sure I'm taking it. xD
I can hit that note even with the voices off
AMAZING!
You are THE MAN 🔥
that amazing woow well done
it much easier with eyes closed
you deserve more subscribers
Give this dude a medal
Love watching this mans vibe to the beat
This is dope as hell
The absolute madman
Now I can see why “a beautiful song Church bells version” gives people PTSD drakengard style…
Very nice!
KIIIIIIIIIIING
is simple, if you focus in image of this game you lost perception of timing to press at right moment, but if you memorize the time betwen the sound and the moment when touch dragon, is much more easier, when i play this game i do the same thing, its almost impossible to finish this game if you stay focus on imagen in this part of the game.
well always have exception, but i believe this game was made to sense the rhythm in this part. but is sad to me because the choreography and art design to this part is wonderful
Impressive !
hero!
This man is powerful.
2 years late, but brilliant attempt, man!
I'm 3 hours in and I can't get past two and her dragon zooming camera madness
Worst parts are One's with that nonsense rhythm part+input lag, and the last part with 8 notes but with a skipped note, because INPUT LAG, goddamn lmao.
*YOU DA FAKIN MAN*
I only just recently beat this after attempts totaling like 4 hours. Once was enough.
here after about four hours of attempts. I have no issue except for the last two notes... the second to last is slightly out of sync (not one full measure) and obviously the last one is right on mikhails response. any tips for hitting that second to last one? all I can think of is using the vocals as reference... usually i can keep the beat but that one is offbeat
My dude's a daredevil
WELL PLAYED man im so proud of you
i was a half beat off for that last one
when people don’t know how to music: *WOOOOOOOWWWW*
I cant complete that final.... Its impossible for me... D:
Could you complete it?
@@nova_zar you?)
There IS a trick, you have to press a the button just when our favorite dragon says his second dialogue when the screen IS black
This man is a god.
even if i try this my eyes closed, i don't think i would be able to beat it. also, there's trap at the near end. where Mikail starts to talking, and you think it's over, but it's not. i think there is like 2 more hit to do. for f***'s sake
if i remember correctly, the final button press happens right after he starts talking the second time. like a half second later.
You just need to press the button after Zero sais "Yeah?" It's easy.
I also relied on my ears for this one.... It was comparatively easier listening and responding instead of seeing and doing it. My eyes were open tho 😅
心眼
blindfold time.
Man nice job! You beat one of the hardest final bosses in game history!
@Atoyume According to most people I have asked this one is harder, many had to complete it using a video as guide and others didn’t even finish it.
@Atoyume the first one isn't a final boss though technically
@Bara Galdera who said that
@@Zero-fx8pc This one isn't even hard. Try playing a future sonic jazz song. It's harder to just play future sonic jazz music than do this boss. DOMI or JD Beck would beat this boss on second try, and first if not for the last two notes.
i like the first one, its much darker and mindf***, thins one contain a little of humor of taro
The music is much lighter too. Ending E for 1 is so ominous
Like!
This was so stressful to watch lol
I was like "WTFFFFFFFF???" the whole time doing this haha
That was cool...
Holy fuck dude
Try to get the pathing down faster & do a speedrun WITH an incentive to do this last part blindfolded
Oh man, just the thought of speed running this game makes my soul cry out in despair.
lol nice
It's not much a challenge playing this with your eyes closed, when the camera is more a handicap trying to confuse you than an aid
Man, I could never get anywhere with this boss. And then you just go and do it with your eyes closed. That said, I actually understand that this boss is based around rhythm and you don't really need to look at the screen to beat it. I'm just really bad at rhythm games.
I raged quit and never played the game again after failing at the beginning having to wait for it to reload and then wait for the cutscene. Why didn't they think to put check points and a practice run or tutorial?
@@__-tz6xx Yoko Taro wanted it to be incredibly difficult, because what you are doing here, is saving the world. The act of saving the world is not easy, hence, this boss fight isn't either.
@@ghost23661 Oh yeah, too many games are way too easy. Especially RPGs where you can just grind levels and gear and one shot the final boss and save the world. In the game all your gear and levels and personal experience playing action RPGs is thrown out the window. Even with a button prompt video this was really difficult for me. Definitely felt like I was fighting to save the world lol.
@@zemenerrichey1980 I must be messed up in the head because I loved the time I spent trying to beat this. I'd go to work and just think about coming back home to grind it some more, then I'd get home and go straight to grinding it. Even though I used a guide, I felt like I was getting better at it gradually, and it did feel like saving the world.
@@ghost23661 It did get addictive lol. I would not mind playing a full Drakengard or Nier game like that. Maybe with more forgiving difficulty options though lol.
Man,this fight is awesome,better than the Queen beast,why Zero had to kill her sisters that badly,so interesting and funny at the same time,talk about a dysfunctional family!
This boss was easy for me since im rather good at games like Hatsune Miku Project Diva. (Rhythm Games)
are you fcking kidding me.....
But... you can’t use your eyes anyways?
this was done about 2 years ago. i had spent maybe 6-7 hours on stream getting through it the first time. i came back to it some months later and someone dared me to try it with my eyes closed, then this video happened haha
Bro wtf how?
by having my eyes close it was actually a bit easier to feel my way through the timing
@@sozellicus ok since I'm in quarantine I will try it
Yeah, well done, it’d would’ve been more impressive to also see the controller button pressing