Best coasters ever, I'm an Invert man, love the feeling of your feet dangling. Need to ride coasters outside of the uk but for now nemesis is easily my fav 👍
This is why more people need to appreciate B&M's engineering and design ~~ They have literally made maintenance so easy for parks and they just deliver a high quality product through little things we don't notice ~~ I mean Behemoth, Yukon Striker, and Leviathan at my home park, Canada's Wonderland are super reliable. And because the controls are almost the same for each ride, it takes no longer than maybe 5-10 minutes for the ride to start up again. But even then, those are super rare to happen on B&Ms. I was in line for Behemoth wth some friends and because of some mechanical failure in the station, of course they had to stop the ride. We chatted with the ride operator just for fun, and maybe after like 10 minutes or 15 minutes, the ride was back up. It doesn't take that long for B&M coasters to be ready again after very minor downtime. Yes B&M is not the most extremely innovative, but their products are in my opinion the highest quality of roller coaster out there.
Canada's wonderland was the park of my teens, and although Yukon Striker opened after I moved away, I remember Leviathan and Behemoth with great fondness. Because their restraints were more of a modified lap bar than over the shoulder (which tend to also be beside your head if you are shorter) I found them more comfortable to ride than some of the other coasters at the park. However, I did find the ride experience between the two rather similar (So I would spend more time on Behemoth bc Leviathan was newer and so nearly always had a longer queue). And I just watched a POV of Yukon and it looks to be another 'the same but bigger' situation, like Leviathan was to Behemoth, and I don't know if having all 3 in the same park is really worth it
I go to wonderland they have the best coasters in Canada i haven't been on leviathan and behemoth cause im 1 inch too small but I've been on yukon striker its a great B and M
I would argue that they are the most innovative. Look at all their models. Stand-up, sit-down, invert, hyper, floorless, dive, wing, flying, and surf coming soon
Yeah.. Reliability is the big win for B&M.. But at the cost of innovation. If all companies would do this, every park would have the same set of coasters and layouts. They could perfectly innovate more (especially in their layouts, since that has nothing to do with the technical aspects of the ride) without lowering their uptime.
@@AdamSmith-gs2dv Those Intamin coasters with that track weren't pretend B&Ms. The reason those coasters have similar track to B&Ms is the two engineers that formed B&M originally worked for Giovanola, who was a subcontractor for Intamin.
i also noticed manufacturers like Vekoma and Intamin switching to more "B&M"-style track designs (with a thicker backbone). So the design must have some great benefits.
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Nicely put together! B&M has remained my favorite manufacture since I was since introduced to them back in the early 90s. Quite honestly, 50% of the thrill of coasters, to me anyway, is riding them. The other 50% is the engineering that goes into them. Yes, there are more thrilling rides from other manufactures but as far as a park getting what they paid for, B&M have consistently proven themselves with reliability, safety and throughput. I absolutely love all the little things they created that not a lot of people would understand, just like you said in this video.
B&M coasters are beautiful works of pure engineering wizardry, but you have to admit they do all feel a bit samey. I kinda feel like once you've ridden one of their models, you more or less experienced most of them, which I don't feel with say, Intamin and the insane amount of different ride types they produce. Plus the excessive amount of trim brakes on their hypercoasters are a bit of a bummer
1:41 That was Python in the Efteling, The problem was that they evaced from the back row to the front. because of that there was more weight in the front and the train started moving. Efteling learnt from that and its the Best park in the Netherlands According to GP`s :D. Edit: This coaster is from 1981 and The accident happend around 2010. In 2019 they retracked most parts of the ride and fixed some other stuff
@@amroge8703 Nothing ofcourse, the remaining people on the train returned safely to the station. Ofcourse this "massive accident" was all over the news...
@@6Six6Six6Bruh True, but they shouldn't when it's halfway over the top of the lifthill. Another very stupid mistake they made, is that they didn't hook the train up with chains to the track. A lot of drama when nothing really happened except for mistakes with the unloading. I don't recall every hearing a Vekoma causing people to get hurt, other than getting hit by decoration pieces. They're extremely safe.
As an enthusiast and a ride operator, i can really appreciate B&M and how well made their coasters are both from the prospective of a guest, and an employee
People have dies on B&M's, but as mentioned above all I know about where caused by pre-existing conditions. I.e. in 2011 a man died while riding Black Mamba. IIRC he had an Heaart Attack during the ride, and he was known to have diabetes and high blood pressure most likely causing his death.
Kind of an unfair comparison between Jersey Devil and Orion. Yeah, we all know RMC Raptors relatively low capacity, but they aren’t intended for big parks. Six Flags just wanted one for Great Adventure because it was cheaper than similar-sized coasters from other manufacturers.
I am excited for Jersey Devil, but I expect it to have long waiting times compared to their other major coasters. The upcoming T-Rex model would've been a better fit for Great Adventure which is also single rail, but has 2 across seating, but I'm not complaining about the park getting it's first new original coaster in 14 years.
Other manufacturers get similar or even better capacity with smaller trains than B&M. So their capacity really isn't that great. Hagrid for example does 50 people more per hour, but with only 14 people per train. Where as Orion can fit a whopping 32 (more than double) people in a train. Colorado Adventure has a bit bigger trains than B&M (36 people) but transports 600 people per hour more than Hagrid. Disney is all for capacity, yet they nearly always go for vekoma.. and there is a good reason for that.
That was really fascinating. I expected yet another enthusiast video talking about how B&M has the best airtime or whatever, but I really enjoyed finding out about the little touches that we as riders never think of. I always thought the inverted coasters' dropping floor was pointless, but now I understand why they're there. Thank you!
I gotta agree, they're definitely my favorite manufacturer. I do tours at Busch Gardens Williamsburg and every maintenance guy there totally agrees that B&M makes the easiest rides to maintain. They're also super reliable and a park knows exactly what they're getting when investing in one.
I think B&M is the best is because of its reliable coasters but even though Intamin has faster and taller coasters, a lot of them have a lot of down-time. So that’s why I also think B&M is the best manufacturer.
I agree with the prototype thing. They have created many different roller coasters, but none of them are really considered prototypes. For example, Leviathan was their first giga coaster, so technically that was their prototype giga coaster, but also, they are similar to their hyper coasters, if not pretty much the same, in terms of controls, trains, design, etc. So of course, their experience with their hyper coasters is pretty much transferred over to their giga coasters :)
B&M's are incredible, and they're the best manufacturer. But they're not my personal favorite. B&M's offer a fun, smooth experience which is great for the GP and they're almost always a guarenteed success. However I prefer Intamins and RMCs. I like the hectic out of control experiences, B&M's tend to have the more 'majestic' and drawn out ride experiences. The average B&M is not nearly as intense as the average Intamin or RMC. So I agree with all your points. B&M creates the best coasters, but they're not my personal favorite. I know its almost cliche umong enthusiasts at this point but my favorite manufacturer is RMC with Intamin close behind. B&M is my third favorite. Also I am writing this while wearing a B&M hoodie. Its really cool
Go check out Batman the Ride at Six Flags Great Adventure. That ride is intense, especially the second half. Also, ride any B&M flying coaster in the very last row. Those pretzel loops are intense in the very last row.
From a parks perspective B&M definitely is the best choice. Although recently Vekoma has also been great for parks. Their newer rides are reliable, crowd pleasing, decent capacity and not too expensive. Yet they can also deliver custom rides which are still very reliable like most Disney coasters. And F.L.Y. will probably also be reliable, that thing has been under development for like 5 years and Vekoma build a entire working prototype at their facility. I think Vekoma is also a great option for parks.
this video is making me more comfortable with the idea of riding the diamondback and the banshee. i went to an amusement park for the first time for my senior trip and I did some tame rides like mystic timbers and the stunt coaster, but now i am super excited to try the diamondback. thank you for these educational videos!!
If you look at the reliability and the advantages for the parks a totally agree. But if you search for the best ride I prefer other manifactures like RMC or Intamin
Although Intamin can sometimes be extremely hit or miss. They can build not great rides like Furious Baco and Red Force, but also fantastic ones like Taiga, Taron, i305 and Maverick.
@@sheeple04 Yes that is right but Furius Baco is already 12 years old and Red Force was built just for the height record in europe I think so I can't think of many bad coasters by Intamin
@@sheeple04 What's wrong with Furius Baco? It's an extremely short ride but not a bad one, my gripe with it is that its queue is always full; but that is hardly the fault of the ride. And Red Force? It is a really good coaster as well; I don't think it being short matters much because it is very intense, so it does what it set out to do really well.
More and more manufacturers do this. B&M started it, then Mack, Intamin and even Zierer. Same for rolling blocks, BlueFire is a capacity monster and trains just follow each others. Same with Hagrid.
@@KingRCT3 Does show how important B&M is in the industry, and I'm glad that more manufacturers do it because it's very good for capacity and other things
For whatever reason Mack Rides started doing it after they got the B&M coaster "Silver Star" at Europa Park in Germany, which is also owned by the Mack family. You don't need Chinese people to copy designs... ;-)
Can you do a video on gerstlauer please. Theres only one coaster here where i live and its made by gerstlauer, called The Abyss and i would like to know a bit more about the manufacturer. :)
I think rmc stated the RPH on jersey devil was 960. the 600 number is for their stock raper model with a non continuous loading station. might want to update this. (i agree it is still not a great RPH for SFGA but at least it is a new coaster for SFGA)
Minor correction about the Python incident shown: That was a Kumbak train suddenly dropping off the lift hill, not an Arrow or Vekoma one. Python has a perfect safety record with it's original Arrow trains and both the old a news sets of Vekoma trains.
I was trained and became a trainer on the north east first flourless B&M coaster Medusa at Six Flags which is now called Bizarro. I will tell you, this ride was EASY to train staff from loading, unloading, evacing, safety checks. EASY. This is ride almost NEVER broke down. They are really geniuses when they designed the floors to sink and split was pure amazing engineering. I loved this ride. There was only one other ride the beat its compacity and that was another B&M ride call Nitro. B&M will build any coaster type the customer wants.
Question about #9- the lift trim. Why isn’t this feature included on newer B&Ms? I thought this trim was used to take stress off of the lift hill chain by keeping the train at a constant speed until it was disengaged from the chain.
Although they're certainly not my favorite manufacturer, these are all great points as to why they're so popular from a park standpoint. I was always a little curious why there were trim brakes at the top of bull, very interesting.
100% YASSSSSSS!!! I thought this when i worked at cedar point and started getting into coasters. I even liked Mantis when it was still Mantis (although there are more comfortable stand up coasters by B&M). I love a BMER!!
I have to correct you on number 9. B&m did Not implement this on all it's rides. The comparising to the vekoma is also not fair and misleading. The vekoma coaster shown in the video is 'Python' in the Efteling, Netherlands. It's an old coaster from 1981 and was back in the day unique for it's time. Being the 7th official Vekoma Coaster ever build. B&M officially started building coasters under their own name in 1990, so already 9 years after Python was build. The first 8 coasters build by b&m, which are most still operating, did not have the trim brake after the lifthill. It wasn't untill their 9th coaster, Apollo's Chariot in Bush Gardens Williamsburg, build in 1999, that they implemented it. Bottom line, this accident could also have happend on a B&M rollercoaster as it did on this old vekoma.
I just have a few things to ask/say 1. Do the lift hill trim brakes default to the open position or closed position? 2. Why’d you throw shade on i305, when it has significantly more capacity than Superman: Ultimate Flight, while also having one less train? 3. I’m not sure how many people agree with me, but S&S made a much better vest restraint in terms of comfort. However, knowing S&S, they probably don’t have the best design... Everything aside, I love your channel! You post so frequently that I’m amazed of the quality of the videos.
Regarding 1: Block brakes have to default to a closed position. Otherwise they don‘t make any sense since they were open when they were most likely to be useful!
@@Ghostrider-rq4ms yeah i forget how it works but they eliminated the need for the pre drop but it's so iconic and classic, i will miss it. My favorite pre drop is raging bull
This is a very unique video, and I love it! Personally, I think B&M is the third best manufacturer behind Intamin and RMC, but after watching the video, I can safely say that B&M coasters are great options for parks due to their reliability, popularity with the general public, and all of these reasons you listed.
B&M is great, The reliability gets them that A And they make larger seats for bigger riders which gives them another A but they lack the thrill factor, and that’s where Intamin come in at. Intamin isn’t afraid to push that height and thrill level which gives them that A but they lack at reliability and bigger seats
B&M:let’s make a dive coaster. Golden horse:let’s make b&m dive coaster but it by golden horse. Zamperla:let’s make some attractions. Golden horse:Let’s make zamperla wild mouse coaster but manufacturer is us. Zamperla:Say goodbye to over $1,000,000. Vekoma:let’s make attractions. Golden horse:let’s copy vekoma.
In October I went to Kings Island with my family and when my mom and I were waiting in line for Banshee, I went on and on about B&M. She was so weirded out by how much I know.
B&M makes a good backbone for a park but it tends to be up to other makers to provide the extra spice. For example GrAdv has enough quantity of them (5) although 2 aren't very good. With 2 Intamins also, RMC was a good choice to add. Just because a coaster is good doesn't mean you want another one just like it. ;)
I'm only a casual rider, but I've loved every B&M coaster I've been on. My two favorite coasters ever are B&M. They're smooth, usually have a lot of interesting elements and have an amazing sound. Nice to hear that the operators like them too. My only complaint would be the 4 across seating.
I agree that b&m is good, with my new home park at cedar point instead of silverwood is a huge difference. I may trigger some people by saying it, but I personally prefer the b&m over the intamin coasters except one. Rougarou is my only exception, if rougarou had the vest restraints then I would of ranked it higher, no matter how many times I ride rougarou, I get off with a slight headache from the head banging. But I do prefer steel vengeance the best in the park, because of all the air time and smoothness. But I rank raptor, gatekeeper and valravn over millenium force, Maverick and top thrill dragster. Don't get me wrong, they are still great rides, I just like the feel of the b&m better.
I guess in the station the "rolling blocks" are quite safe, right? If the train is moved by friction-wheels, it's pretty difficult to cause an accident (and even if, to have one that's worse than some scratched paint).
I think they are over rated like dont get me wrong great rides but not as good as people say :/ but hey that's my opinion and you have your have a great day man
CP is my home park so I've always been partial to Inatmin & B&M designs. First time I rode a Vekoma (at KI) I hated everything about it. They're the GOATs for a reason. RMC is quickly making a name for themselves and it's nice to see what they've been able to do with some classic woodies. I appreciate the hell out of B&M's commitment to rider safety, capacity, uptime, and avoiding maintenance pitfalls that have plagued the likes of giants like Intamin for years. B&M is a classy bunch!
for the things you mentioned, b&m is absolutely the best. however in the end i’m going to like the manufacturer that makes the better rides more, and for me that just happens to be a lot of companies that aren’t b&m. still great educational video though, i do think these are excellent things that b&m does.
Not something only applicable to B&M, but as a family with 3 ppl who ride coaster (my sister, my dad and me), I much prefer 4 across seating to 2 across. And B&M were the first to master the 4 across seating.
Intamin do some incredible launch coasters. B&M are a good all rounder. Gerstlauer do some AMAZING coasters as well, for example Saw at Thorpe Park, however they tend to be quite rough due to the older restraints they still use.
Congratulations, you just triggered all the Intamin fanbois and B&M haters! That was a thing of beauty! Hit them with facts, not subjective BS like the Intaminers like to throw around. When I choose a car to buy, sure "innovation" is great but I prefer my car to actually get me to where I need to go rather than leave me stranded on the highway.... and that's the choice Cedar Fair has made. Want a coaster to ride, find the B&M. Want a coaster to take Instagram photos of, find the Intamin and RMC.
My home park is Alton Towers in England. And we have 3 B&M rides here. Nemesis, Galactica and Oblivion. The best one in terms of seating and RPH is definitely Galactica. They have 2 lanes where they can load up guests on one train while another is being sent off. Meaning you don't have to wait till the train has left to start loading guest. While I don't work there so I don't know the ins and outs. It seems like it never has too long of a line. Whether this is because the ride isn't too popular or if its because of the loading system I don't know.
Best Vest Restraints? I don't think that this point should go to B&M, the ones used on the latest Vekoma Coasters like Formula or Lech are way better than the ones from B&M. On a side note, Vekoma also started to use little side wheels for train Storage / Maintenance on their newer coasters. You can easily see this when Formula only operates 1 Train because the storage "building" is really just a large tube tent with a metal fence on the side with the exit path.
The thing about their trains higher capacity does have a downside to it. On slower days at the park the park will often only run 1 train, where as other coasters with smaller trains will still do 2 train ops. B&M floorless and inverts are by far the coaster types to have 1 train ops over all other coaster types.
Rolling blocks baby hahaha splendid now I will be able to identify b and ms costers cause I used to be like scared to death of roller coasters before I found your channel and that was last year so my chance this year is gone but
I 100% agree with you that B&M are the best manufacturer! However, I think that Intamin is my favorite, but it's really hard to say! It's very close for me.
Are you more likely to die in an airplane accident than a rollercoaster ride? JW, I watch both plane and coaster vids and think it's super irrational to worry about either but not fear being crushed by vending machines or lightning striking you.
1 Flour has a pleasing white hue 2 it’s woody overtones and savoury aftertaste makes it a good spice for use in a majority of foods 3 it’s Inexpensive 4 it’s smell evokes feelings of volcanoes and mountains 5 it can cure cancer 6 it is accepted currency in 26 UN nations 7 it’s fireproof 8 it’s velvety texture 9 it’s a substitute for smoking cigarettes 10 if you’ve been eating and snorting it as long as I have it sends you crazy.
I don't believe for one second that Jersey Devil only pulls 612 pph. That equates to only one dispatch every 70 seconds roughly. If the dispatches are one minute apart, that already bumps the throughput up to 720 pph. Also, the other Raptors only pull 600, yet they have one less train and four less riders per train. I would have thought this ride will pull at least 720 pph for it's max capacity based on that.
Also B&M’s last a long time. Only 2 B&M coasters have ever been scrapped and those two were dueling dragons, which were removed to make room for park expansion, not because there was a problem with the ride. These coasters ran fine and could have continued operating for years if they didn’t tear them down.
So wait, they had a train stall on the lifthill in the Vekoma-clip, went up to unload riders, but didn't think about hitting the emergency stop/disabling the lifthill, just hoping it wouldn't pick up again?
The lifthill did not start again, the sound you hear is the anti rollback+the chain hill hook moving forward. What happened was that they unloaded the back of the train and when they wanted to unload the front, the weight on that side of the train was heavier then on the other side of the pre drop. Which made the train starting to move again due to gravity.
Are you sure B&M don't sell prototypes? Air or Oblivion? Air, first prototype B&M flying coaster, was assembled at a testing facility in North Africa for a while before being shipped to Alton Towers. Then Oblivion, a prototype dive coaster that could not dive vertically because of not being able to distribute the load reliably between the road wheels and upstops. B&M have since perfected and built multiple versions of both coaster types. That said though, B&M are absolutely the best, although they don't seem to be pushing the boundaries of what a coaster can do much these days. A little too corporate perhaps?
I will agree. My ride Medusa has extremely little down time. Medusa and Nitro are two of the highly rated rides in the park. When I had to train crew on these ride is was so easy and they all understood the ride because it was very well thought out.
After watching a couple of your videos lately Ithought it was high time to subscribe. That's what I just did. I like your approach from the perspective of a ride operator/point of view of the investing parks. Reliability and high throughput were probably the reasons why Europa Park chose B&M back in the early 2000s to construct their hyper coaster Silverstar. Speaking of Europa Park. Do you know how Mack Ride stacks up compared to B&M (Intamin does not have such a great track record when it comes to reliabitly as far as I know)? Keep up the good work!
Yeah MACK Rides is also known for their quality, reliability and everything else. They are kinda like B&M but then more in the launch coaster and family coaster business, with an extensive portfolio of family coasters and some thrill coasters. I think Europa Park went to B&M for Silver Star because MACK didn't have the resources yet, but if they did at the time have those resources and the technology then MACK Rides would have made it. MACK Rides went into the thrill coaster market in 2009 with Blue Fire so they didn't have the technology yet in 2002, and since B&M had a good reputation of reliability and capacity they went for them.
@@sheeple04 Exactly my thoughts. MACK Rides have come a long way and I wish they would build something similiar to Time Traveller or (even better) DC Rivals in Europa Park.
“Should’ve gotten a B&M” Enough said
I miss B&M Fangirl on Coaster Studios parodies, what happened to her?
Racing Photographer she learned about RMC lol
@@racingphotographer8251 and Josh from Kings Dominion
@@racingphotographer8251 B&M fangirl learned about Intamin and RMC
Best coasters ever, I'm an Invert man, love the feeling of your feet dangling. Need to ride coasters outside of the uk but for now nemesis is easily my fav 👍
B&M: caretaker
intamin: stuntmaster
RMC: wooden inivator
Brandon Meyer intamin: stuntmaster, innovator, Godtier. RMC: stunt master. I don’t really consider RMC wooden, it’s steel track with wooden supports, basically a fancy steel coaster lol but they’re badass
Kaydn Burns Rmc also makes wooden coasters like Outlaw run and Lightning Rod
yup, unless its topper track
Arrow: Head banger
@@danielvilla8849 XD
This is why more people need to appreciate B&M's engineering and design ~~ They have literally made maintenance so easy for parks and they just deliver a high quality product through little things we don't notice ~~ I mean Behemoth, Yukon Striker, and Leviathan at my home park, Canada's Wonderland are super reliable. And because the controls are almost the same for each ride, it takes no longer than maybe 5-10 minutes for the ride to start up again. But even then, those are super rare to happen on B&Ms. I was in line for Behemoth wth some friends and because of some mechanical failure in the station, of course they had to stop the ride. We chatted with the ride operator just for fun, and maybe after like 10 minutes or 15 minutes, the ride was back up. It doesn't take that long for B&M coasters to be ready again after very minor downtime. Yes B&M is not the most extremely innovative, but their products are in my opinion the highest quality of roller coaster out there.
Canada's wonderland was the park of my teens, and although Yukon Striker opened after I moved away, I remember Leviathan and Behemoth with great fondness. Because their restraints were more of a modified lap bar than over the shoulder (which tend to also be beside your head if you are shorter) I found them more comfortable to ride than some of the other coasters at the park.
However, I did find the ride experience between the two rather similar (So I would spend more time on Behemoth bc Leviathan was newer and so nearly always had a longer queue). And I just watched a POV of Yukon and it looks to be another 'the same but bigger' situation, like Leviathan was to Behemoth, and I don't know if having all 3 in the same park is really worth it
I go to wonderland they have the best coasters in Canada i haven't been on leviathan and behemoth cause im 1 inch too small but I've been on yukon striker its a great B and M
I would argue that they are the most innovative. Look at all their models. Stand-up, sit-down, invert, hyper, floorless, dive, wing, flying, and surf coming soon
Yeah.. Reliability is the big win for B&M.. But at the cost of innovation. If all companies would do this, every park would have the same set of coasters and layouts. They could perfectly innovate more (especially in their layouts, since that has nothing to do with the technical aspects of the ride) without lowering their uptime.
@@kworkshop Most innovative with trains, yes. By far the least innovative with track layouts and exciting elements.
When you see that trademark B&M track, you know you’re in for a treat.
Unless it's one of those pretend B&Ms made by Intamin then get ready for pain
@@AdamSmith-gs2dv Those Intamin coasters with that track weren't pretend B&Ms. The reason those coasters have similar track to B&Ms is the two engineers that formed B&M originally worked for Giovanola, who was a subcontractor for Intamin.
Unless you’re riding scream.
@@nw3473 unfortunately
@@AdamSmith-gs2dv flashback at six flags magic mountain would BEG to differ
Number 11 (for me): Their track design is unbelievably photogenic and aesthetically pleasing!
And it also produces that B&M roar that is so iconic.
i also noticed manufacturers like Vekoma and Intamin switching to more "B&M"-style track designs (with a thicker backbone). So the design must have some great benefits.
I just wanted to let you know that I’ve had a crippling fear of certain roller coasters over the past few years, but watching your videos helped me conquer my fears and go on all of the Sea World Orlando coasters 😊 So thank you.
That's awesome, welcome in the coaster enthusiasts community 😀
Thats nice I conquered my fear of coasters with cheetah hunt
Nice! I got over my fear with The Carolina Cyclone
That's great! I conquered my fear of coasters with Ghostrider when I was in middle school
Sarah Tyner I got over mine with Darien Lake’s Viper! Glad to see you’ve overcome yours! Welcome to the community :)
Nicely put together! B&M has remained my favorite manufacture since I was since introduced to them back in the early 90s. Quite honestly, 50% of the thrill of coasters, to me anyway, is riding them. The other 50% is the engineering that goes into them. Yes, there are more thrilling rides from other manufactures but as far as a park getting what they paid for, B&M have consistently proven themselves with reliability, safety and throughput. I absolutely love all the little things they created that not a lot of people would understand, just like you said in this video.
In so glad you’re one of those enthusiasts that doesn’t think B&M is Boring and Mild. I also see the best in every coaster I ride.
Max Lippman Those enthusiasts are WRONG!
Max Lippman yep
B&M coasters are beautiful works of pure engineering wizardry, but you have to admit they do all feel a bit samey. I kinda feel like once you've ridden one of their models, you more or less experienced most of them, which I don't feel with say, Intamin and the insane amount of different ride types they produce. Plus the excessive amount of trim brakes on their hypercoasters are a bit of a bummer
James Shewan name 20 intense B&Ms
Max Lippman not to us enthusiasts we want to be blown away that’s why we praise rides like Steel Vengeance
1:41 That was Python in the Efteling, The problem was that they evaced from the back row to the front. because of that there was more weight in the front and the train started moving. Efteling learnt from that and its the Best park in the Netherlands According to GP`s :D.
Edit: This coaster is from 1981 and The accident happend around 2010. In 2019 they retracked most parts of the ride and fixed some other stuff
What happened to the people on the train?
@@amroge8703 Nothing ofcourse, the remaining people on the train returned safely to the station. Ofcourse this "massive accident" was all over the news...
CoasterStan but he said in a vid that you always evac in that fashion to keep gp from trying to help each other
@@6Six6Six6Bruh True, but they shouldn't when it's halfway over the top of the lifthill. Another very stupid mistake they made, is that they didn't hook the train up with chains to the track. A lot of drama when nothing really happened except for mistakes with the unloading. I don't recall every hearing a Vekoma causing people to get hurt, other than getting hit by decoration pieces. They're extremely safe.
@@KingofthePinball Yeah, there was also never an deadly accideny at the park so far i know.
I really like the smoothness of B&M coasters they feel like you are flying!!!!
As an enthusiast and a ride operator, i can really appreciate B&M and how well made their coasters are both from the prospective of a guest, and an employee
1. Their safety record is unparalleled. Nobody his died while riding a B&M!!! They deserve the right to not need to put seatbelts in their train! 🤣
RemixedVoice other than pre existing conditions
@Gd Macaroni u know the average person can survive up to about 60g's right? It just gets uncomfortable after aroubd 5-6
But if you watched the what really happened videos, many accidents were not the rides' fault.
A so dumb argument
People have dies on B&M's, but as mentioned above all I know about where caused by pre-existing conditions. I.e. in 2011 a man died while riding Black Mamba. IIRC he had an Heaart Attack during the ride, and he was known to have diabetes and high blood pressure most likely causing his death.
Kind of an unfair comparison between Jersey Devil and Orion. Yeah, we all know RMC Raptors relatively low capacity, but they aren’t intended for big parks. Six Flags just wanted one for Great Adventure because it was cheaper than similar-sized coasters from other manufacturers.
Iron Gwazi would have been a better comparison, what's the capacity on that supposed to be?
@@bonjernoorr 2,880 people/hour
I am excited for Jersey Devil, but I expect it to have long waiting times compared to their other major coasters. The upcoming T-Rex model would've been a better fit for Great Adventure which is also single rail, but has 2 across seating, but I'm not complaining about the park getting it's first new original coaster in 14 years.
Steel Vengeance Vs Raptor (CP).
Raptor has higher capacity and SteVe has long lines
Other manufacturers get similar or even better capacity with smaller trains than B&M. So their capacity really isn't that great. Hagrid for example does 50 people more per hour, but with only 14 people per train. Where as Orion can fit a whopping 32 (more than double) people in a train. Colorado Adventure has a bit bigger trains than B&M (36 people) but transports 600 people per hour more than Hagrid.
Disney is all for capacity, yet they nearly always go for vekoma.. and there is a good reason for that.
Thanks for using my Yukon footage! It was cool seeing it in the video!
That was really fascinating. I expected yet another enthusiast video talking about how B&M has the best airtime or whatever, but I really enjoyed finding out about the little touches that we as riders never think of. I always thought the inverted coasters' dropping floor was pointless, but now I understand why they're there. Thank you!
I gotta agree, they're definitely my favorite manufacturer. I do tours at Busch Gardens Williamsburg and every maintenance guy there totally agrees that B&M makes the easiest rides to maintain. They're also super reliable and a park knows exactly what they're getting when investing in one.
RMC will always be my favorite, but I agree that more people need to appreciate the reliability and high quality of B&Ms
Nearly every B&M I’ve rode is awesome. The majority of my top 20 are B&Ms for reasons stated in this video and more.
B&M has done a lot for the coaster industry and has helped many parks deal with capacity issues. They definetly need more respect by enthusiasts.
They've done nothing lol. Let's be real here. They aren't innovative
@@alecscheerer_run did you even watch the video ?
@@starknot Yeah I think the world is ending
@@alecscheerer_run ?
@@starknot I know star wars is pretty good
The longevity of b&ms are amazing as well. All but 2 of there rides are still in operation,
RIP Dueling Dragons, one of the greatest coasters ever.
I think B&M is the best is because of its reliable coasters but even though Intamin has faster and taller coasters, a lot of them have a lot of down-time. So that’s why I also think B&M is the best manufacturer.
Intamin
Is the best lol
Ethan Stephens he is talking about park prospective.
Bro you right I'm dumb af sorry
@@ethanstephens1510 No you're not man
Reason 11:
They're simple in their ride offering; very iconic and very user friendly. They know how to sell
I love B&M coasters so much. My favorite one is Silver Bullet at Knotts, and it was one of the smoothest rides I've ever been on
I agree with the prototype thing. They have created many different roller coasters, but none of them are really considered prototypes. For example, Leviathan was their first giga coaster, so technically that was their prototype giga coaster, but also, they are similar to their hyper coasters, if not pretty much the same, in terms of controls, trains, design, etc. So of course, their experience with their hyper coasters is pretty much transferred over to their giga coasters :)
B&M's are incredible, and they're the best manufacturer. But they're not my personal favorite. B&M's offer a fun, smooth experience which is great for the GP and they're almost always a guarenteed success. However I prefer Intamins and RMCs. I like the hectic out of control experiences, B&M's tend to have the more 'majestic' and drawn out ride experiences. The average B&M is not nearly as intense as the average Intamin or RMC. So I agree with all your points. B&M creates the best coasters, but they're not my personal favorite. I know its almost cliche umong enthusiasts at this point but my favorite manufacturer is RMC with Intamin close behind. B&M is my third favorite.
Also I am writing this while wearing a B&M hoodie. Its really cool
Go check out Batman the Ride at Six Flags Great Adventure. That ride is intense, especially the second half. Also, ride any B&M flying coaster in the very last row. Those pretzel loops are intense in the very last row.
So basically B&M is that one kid who gets really good grades but no one cares of the ride manufacturers
Not really, as B&M seems to be generally appreciated and so are its rides.
From a parks perspective B&M definitely is the best choice. Although recently Vekoma has also been great for parks. Their newer rides are reliable, crowd pleasing, decent capacity and not too expensive. Yet they can also deliver custom rides which are still very reliable like most Disney coasters. And F.L.Y. will probably also be reliable, that thing has been under development for like 5 years and Vekoma build a entire working prototype at their facility. I think Vekoma is also a great option for parks.
Haha don't be silly sheeple, no American park will get a vekoma
@@molestingfood I'm not sad, more Vekomas for us in Europe >:)
@@sheeple04 well it's more rmc and gigas for U.S.
@@molestingfood so Disney ain't got parks in America anymore?
@@molestingfood I really thought Disney's Magic kingdom, currently getting a Vekoma, was in America!
0:33, 0:59, 1:18, 1:57, 2:12, 4:02, 4:29, 5:04, 5:14, 6:33, 6:59, 7:47, and 8:19 are good coasters.
10 Reasons Why B&M is the Best Coaster Manufacturer
Rougarou is the thumbnail
Not that I hate Roug, but dang is that ever ironic
this video is making me more comfortable with the idea of riding the diamondback and the banshee. i went to an amusement park for the first time for my senior trip and I did some tame rides like mystic timbers and the stunt coaster, but now i am super excited to try the diamondback. thank you for these educational videos!!
Do another vid on the small things b&m thinks of. Those were cool!
If you look at the reliability and the advantages for the parks a totally agree. But if you search for the best ride I prefer other manifactures like RMC or Intamin
Although Intamin can sometimes be extremely hit or miss. They can build not great rides like Furious Baco and Red Force, but also fantastic ones like Taiga, Taron, i305 and Maverick.
@@sheeple04 Yes that is right but Furius Baco is already 12 years old and Red Force was built just for the height record in europe I think so I can't think of many bad coasters by Intamin
Thank you well said!!!
@@sheeple04 What's wrong with Furius Baco? It's an extremely short ride but not a bad one, my gripe with it is that its queue is always full; but that is hardly the fault of the ride. And Red Force? It is a really good coaster as well; I don't think it being short matters much because it is very intense, so it does what it set out to do really well.
I love B&M, mainly because of the roar of the trains.
Top 10 Reasons why B&M are the best coaster manufacturer:
#1: They are from Switzerland aka. my country.
#2 stinky Intamin decided to leave to tax heaven Liechtenstein.
Switzerland is your city?
GianCarlo Feliciano Castaneda Switzerland is a country not a city
@@nooba220 it's a joke. Dood.
GianCarlo Feliciano Castaneda oh
6:35 hold up Mackrides does this too...
Makes sense now, as to why copperhead strike doesn't have track in where they store the trains
Gravity Group also does it i think, at least Twister at Gröna Lund has it
More and more manufacturers do this. B&M started it, then Mack, Intamin and even Zierer.
Same for rolling blocks, BlueFire is a capacity monster and trains just follow each others. Same with Hagrid.
@@KingRCT3 Does show how important B&M is in the industry, and I'm glad that more manufacturers do it because it's very good for capacity and other things
For whatever reason Mack Rides started doing it after they got the B&M coaster "Silver Star" at Europa Park in Germany, which is also owned by the Mack family. You don't need Chinese people to copy designs... ;-)
Can you do a video on gerstlauer please. Theres only one coaster here where i live and its made by gerstlauer, called The Abyss and i would like to know a bit more about the manufacturer. :)
Look up
Coaster Bot- Gerstlauer Explained
@@brady_06 thanks:)
Perth Australia am I right? BTW its a clone of saw the ride at Thorpe Park
Wow this video makes me want to ride a b&m right now
Gp
Marathonrunner 97 How are they GP?
Thank for a very informative video! I knew B&M designs their models to have really low wear and tear but I didn't know the specifics.
I think rmc stated the RPH on jersey devil was 960. the 600 number is for their stock raper model with a non continuous loading station. might want to update this. (i agree it is still not a great RPH for SFGA but at least it is a new coaster for SFGA)
Minor correction about the Python incident shown: That was a Kumbak train suddenly dropping off the lift hill, not an Arrow or Vekoma one. Python has a perfect safety record with it's original Arrow trains and both the old a news sets of Vekoma trains.
Still a vekoma coaster tho, so not really a correction, more additional info. New Texas Giant is also seen as an RMC when having gerstlauer trains
I was trained and became a trainer on the north east first flourless B&M coaster Medusa at Six Flags which is now called Bizarro. I will tell you, this ride was EASY to train staff from loading, unloading, evacing, safety checks. EASY. This is ride almost NEVER broke down. They are really geniuses when they designed the floors to sink and split was pure amazing engineering. I loved this ride. There was only one other ride the beat its compacity and that was another B&M ride call Nitro. B&M will build any coaster type the customer wants.
Question about #9- the lift trim. Why isn’t this feature included on newer B&Ms? I thought this trim was used to take stress off of the lift hill chain by keeping the train at a constant speed until it was disengaged from the chain.
Bc new techs I guess
Although they're certainly not my favorite manufacturer, these are all great points as to why they're so popular from a park standpoint. I was always a little curious why there were trim brakes at the top of bull, very interesting.
100% YASSSSSSS!!! I thought this when i worked at cedar point and started getting into coasters. I even liked Mantis when it was still Mantis (although there are more comfortable stand up coasters by B&M). I love a BMER!!
I have to correct you on number 9. B&m did Not implement this on all it's rides. The comparising to the vekoma is also not fair and misleading.
The vekoma coaster shown in the video is 'Python' in the Efteling, Netherlands. It's an old coaster from 1981 and was back in the day unique for it's time. Being the 7th official Vekoma Coaster ever build.
B&M officially started building coasters under their own name in 1990, so already 9 years after Python was build. The first 8 coasters build by b&m, which are most still operating, did not have the trim brake after the lifthill.
It wasn't untill their 9th coaster, Apollo's Chariot in Bush Gardens Williamsburg, build in 1999, that they implemented it.
Bottom line, this accident could also have happend on a B&M rollercoaster as it did on this old vekoma.
B&M are the makers of my first looping coaster, Medusa at SFDK and I love every one I’ve been on so far
also they're hella smooth
timeparadox never ridden it, just the big handful of b&m’s I’ve ridden they’ve all been really smooth
I just have a few things to ask/say
1. Do the lift hill trim brakes default to the open position or closed position?
2. Why’d you throw shade on i305, when it has significantly more capacity than Superman: Ultimate Flight, while also having one less train?
3. I’m not sure how many people agree with me, but S&S made a much better vest restraint in terms of comfort. However, knowing S&S, they probably don’t have the best design...
Everything aside, I love your channel! You post so frequently that I’m amazed of the quality of the videos.
Regarding 1: Block brakes have to default to a closed position. Otherwise they don‘t make any sense since they were open when they were most likely to be useful!
Great vid. This is fantastic info. Aaaaaaaand it got me to watch your other vid on Blocks. =) Well done.
Cya over there!
The pre drop releases tension on the chain, less wear and tear
Yes, but they don't make them anymore, they designed a system that speeds up the chain as the train accelerates I believe
@@Ghostrider-rq4ms yeah i forget how it works but they eliminated the need for the pre drop but it's so iconic and classic, i will miss it.
My favorite pre drop is raging bull
This video was simply legendary, I’m gonna reconsider who my favorite manufacturer is!
This is a very unique video, and I love it! Personally, I think B&M is the third best manufacturer behind Intamin and RMC, but after watching the video, I can safely say that B&M coasters are great options for parks due to their reliability, popularity with the general public, and all of these reasons you listed.
B&M is great, The reliability gets them that A And they make larger seats for bigger riders which gives them another A but they lack the thrill factor, and that’s where Intamin come in at. Intamin isn’t afraid to push that height and thrill level which gives them that A but they lack at reliability and bigger seats
B&M:let’s make a dive coaster.
Golden horse:let’s make b&m dive coaster but it by golden horse.
Zamperla:let’s make some attractions.
Golden horse:Let’s make zamperla wild mouse coaster but manufacturer is us.
Zamperla:Say goodbye to over $1,000,000.
Vekoma:let’s make attractions.
Golden horse:let’s copy vekoma.
In October I went to Kings Island with my family and when my mom and I were waiting in line for Banshee, I went on and on about B&M. She was so weirded out by how much I know.
B&M has always been my favorite manufacturer. I learned a lot about them from this video. Thanks!
I'm a bit phobic *before* I get on a coaster. But the magic words 'it's a B&M' make the tension vanish. They are ride architects.
B&M makes a good backbone for a park but it tends to be up to other makers to provide the extra spice.
For example GrAdv has enough quantity of them (5) although 2 aren't very good. With 2 Intamins also, RMC was a good choice to add. Just because a coaster is good doesn't mean you want another one just like it. ;)
Awesome insider info
Reason 12: they provide a great experience while looking both architecturally pleasing AND intimidating.
My personal favorite B&M coaster is Afterburn at Carowinds
I'm only a casual rider, but I've loved every B&M coaster I've been on. My two favorite coasters ever are B&M. They're smooth, usually have a lot of interesting elements and have an amazing sound. Nice to hear that the operators like them too. My only complaint would be the 4 across seating.
"Rolling blocks baby!" XD ♡
Jersey Devil will have more than 612 RPH with the 12 rows on each train. That 612 number seems more like a standard raptor rph to me.
It will probably be more like 700 rph with the four twelve car trains and moving station
I agree that b&m is good, with my new home park at cedar point instead of silverwood is a huge difference. I may trigger some people by saying it, but I personally prefer the b&m over the intamin coasters except one. Rougarou is my only exception, if rougarou had the vest restraints then I would of ranked it higher, no matter how many times I ride rougarou, I get off with a slight headache from the head banging. But I do prefer steel vengeance the best in the park, because of all the air time and smoothness. But I rank raptor, gatekeeper and valravn over millenium force, Maverick and top thrill dragster. Don't get me wrong, they are still great rides, I just like the feel of the b&m better.
B&M has always been my favourite ride manufacturer, this only deepens that feeling. Thanks for this video
I agree, they are very practical, and other manufacturers should take notes on what they do
I guess in the station the "rolling blocks" are quite safe, right?
If the train is moved by friction-wheels, it's pretty difficult to cause an accident (and even if, to have one that's worse than some scratched paint).
Great Video. Can You make 10 reasons why rmc is the best manufacturer.
Thorax Changeling It’s not happening he hates RMC
I think they are over rated like dont get me wrong great rides but not as good as people say :/ but hey that's my opinion and you have your have a great day man
but their not, so no.
@@CoasterCollege Alright sorry. Many people Love rmc so i thought i ask. Sorry
RMC’s coasters are very enjoyable for us airtime junkies, but yeah, they can’t match B&M’s reliability.
CP is my home park so I've always been partial to Inatmin & B&M designs. First time I rode a Vekoma (at KI) I hated everything about it. They're the GOATs for a reason. RMC is quickly making a name for themselves and it's nice to see what they've been able to do with some classic woodies. I appreciate the hell out of B&M's commitment to rider safety, capacity, uptime, and avoiding maintenance pitfalls that have plagued the likes of giants like Intamin for years. B&M is a classy bunch!
for the things you mentioned, b&m is absolutely the best. however in the end i’m going to like the manufacturer that makes the better rides more, and for me that just happens to be a lot of companies that aren’t b&m. still great educational video though, i do think these are excellent things that b&m does.
Not something only applicable to B&M, but as a family with 3 ppl who ride coaster (my sister, my dad and me), I much prefer 4 across seating to 2 across. And B&M were the first to master the 4 across seating.
The biggest reason for the secondary wheel set on the transfer track is to avoid flat spots forming on the wheels
Intamin do some incredible launch coasters.
B&M are a good all rounder.
Gerstlauer do some AMAZING coasters as well, for example Saw at Thorpe Park, however they tend to be quite rough due to the older restraints they still use.
Congratulations, you just triggered all the Intamin fanbois and B&M haters! That was a thing of beauty! Hit them with facts, not subjective BS like the Intaminers like to throw around. When I choose a car to buy, sure "innovation" is great but I prefer my car to actually get me to where I need to go rather than leave me stranded on the highway.... and that's the choice Cedar Fair has made. Want a coaster to ride, find the B&M. Want a coaster to take Instagram photos of, find the Intamin and RMC.
I prefer with coasters ones that blow me away I wanna feel the forces sorry to me B&M isn’t even top 5
Good video. B&M is definitely one of my favorite coaster manufacturing companies.
quickly binging all ur videos so when co-vid is under control in the future, and the state fair comes around, i wont be scared
Everyone: RMC is the best.
B&M: hold my track.
In your opinion. My opinion intamin is by far the best, they are the most innovative manufacturer
Marathonrunner 97 Watch the video
@@alecscheerer_run anyone can make a cool layout for a coaster (NL2 proves that) it takes true innovation to do what B&M does!
My home park is Alton Towers in England. And we have 3 B&M rides here. Nemesis, Galactica and Oblivion. The best one in terms of seating and RPH is definitely Galactica. They have 2 lanes where they can load up guests on one train while another is being sent off. Meaning you don't have to wait till the train has left to start loading guest. While I don't work there so I don't know the ins and outs. It seems like it never has too long of a line. Whether this is because the ride isn't too popular or if its because of the loading system I don't know.
Best Vest Restraints? I don't think that this point should go to B&M, the ones used on the latest Vekoma Coasters like Formula or Lech are way better than the ones from B&M.
On a side note, Vekoma also started to use little side wheels for train Storage / Maintenance on their newer coasters. You can easily see this when Formula only operates 1 Train because the storage "building" is really just a large tube tent with a metal fence on the side with the exit path.
Cool to see a different perspective on this whole thing
The thing about their trains higher capacity does have a downside to it. On slower days at the park the park will often only run 1 train, where as other coasters with smaller trains will still do 2 train ops. B&M floorless and inverts are by far the coaster types to have 1 train ops over all other coaster types.
Rolling blocks baby hahaha splendid now I will be able to identify b and ms costers cause I used to be like scared to death of roller coasters before I found your channel and that was last year so my chance this year is gone but
Nemesis need I say more. 27 years old and still kicking arse with sheer intensity buffered perfectly by that B&M smoothness 🤗
I 100% agree with you that B&M are the best manufacturer! However, I think that Intamin is my favorite, but it's really hard to say! It's very close for me.
Are you more likely to die in an airplane accident than a rollercoaster ride? JW, I watch both plane and coaster vids and think it's super irrational to worry about either but not fear being crushed by vending machines or lightning striking you.
I'm glad my first non-wooden coaster was a B&M.
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Learning about Consign controls now makes me want to work and operate Behemoth and Leviathan ~~
and Yukon Striker...
@@racingphotographer8251 OMG ty how did I forget xD
I don't believe for one second that Jersey Devil only pulls 612 pph. That equates to only one dispatch every 70 seconds roughly. If the dispatches are one minute apart, that already bumps the throughput up to 720 pph. Also, the other Raptors only pull 600, yet they have one less train and four less riders per train. I would have thought this ride will pull at least 720 pph for it's max capacity based on that.
Also B&M’s last a long time. Only 2 B&M coasters have ever been scrapped and those two were dueling dragons, which were removed to make room for park expansion, not because there was a problem with the ride. These coasters ran fine and could have continued operating for years if they didn’t tear them down.
Defo the best rides to operate from experience ❤️
Hersheypark's Great Bear in 3 seasons has MAYBE broken down ONCE..due to a power outtage.
Also
Diversity (they have several different types of coasters)
Reliability. There never down
So wait, they had a train stall on the lifthill in the Vekoma-clip, went up to unload riders, but didn't think about hitting the emergency stop/disabling the lifthill, just hoping it wouldn't pick up again?
The lifthill did not start again, the sound you hear is the anti rollback+the chain hill hook moving forward. What happened was that they unloaded the back of the train and when they wanted to unload the front, the weight on that side of the train was heavier then on the other side of the pre drop. Which made the train starting to move again due to gravity.
Are you sure B&M don't sell prototypes? Air or Oblivion? Air, first prototype B&M flying coaster, was assembled at a testing facility in North Africa for a while before being shipped to Alton Towers. Then Oblivion, a prototype dive coaster that could not dive vertically because of not being able to distribute the load reliably between the road wheels and upstops. B&M have since perfected and built multiple versions of both coaster types. That said though, B&M are absolutely the best, although they don't seem to be pushing the boundaries of what a coaster can do much these days. A little too corporate perhaps?
I'm very sure Intamin was the one who created the rolling block system first :o
B&M is one manufacturer that you can have multiple coasters from them that you either love or hate
I will agree. My ride Medusa has extremely little down time. Medusa and Nitro are two of the highly rated rides in the park. When I had to train crew on these ride is was so easy and they all understood the ride because it was very well thought out.
After watching a couple of your videos lately Ithought it was high time to subscribe. That's what I just did. I like your approach from the perspective of a ride operator/point of view of the investing parks. Reliability and high throughput were probably the reasons why Europa Park chose B&M back in the early 2000s to construct their hyper coaster Silverstar. Speaking of Europa Park. Do you know how Mack Ride stacks up compared to B&M (Intamin does not have such a great track record when it comes to reliabitly as far as I know)? Keep up the good work!
I don't know too much about mack, but from what I know they are probably a distant 2nd to B&M.
@@CoasterCollege Thx for replying that fast.
Yeah MACK Rides is also known for their quality, reliability and everything else. They are kinda like B&M but then more in the launch coaster and family coaster business, with an extensive portfolio of family coasters and some thrill coasters.
I think Europa Park went to B&M for Silver Star because MACK didn't have the resources yet, but if they did at the time have those resources and the technology then MACK Rides would have made it. MACK Rides went into the thrill coaster market in 2009 with Blue Fire so they didn't have the technology yet in 2002, and since B&M had a good reputation of reliability and capacity they went for them.
@@sheeple04 Exactly my thoughts. MACK Rides have come a long way and I wish they would build something similiar to Time Traveller or (even better) DC Rivals in Europa Park.