My One tip; If you dont want problems with the shadecloth tearing during wind storms, tie it down with *bunjee cords*. They will keep the shadecloth always feeling right, with no slack parts and an even feel, and they just stretch for a little bit when ever the gusts are bad... it works so well, you wont believe it.
Yes, I was wondering if the tarp could simply be put over the RV and then bungeed to the underside of the vehicle.... I am thinking of doing this when I go car camping. I'll be parked at temporary locations and can't use rebar in the ground. I am concerned that the tarp will be stolen during the day when I'm away from my vehicle, however.
It's more of a survival tactic than something to do while boondocking but in Iraq when we didn't have ANYTHING we would cool bottles of water down by hanging them in wet socks under our awning. The wind would blow through the thick socks, evaporate, and cool the water. We're talking 130 degrees down to about 98 degrees, but when you've spent a month drinking hot water to cool off, 98 degree water is an improvement. And it might be a bit more effective in climates below 130 degrees.
I can see you guys hanging up pictures of cool spring water. It wouldn't help but it might deflect your thoughs. It's good that you're issued 2 pairs of socks.
First, thanks for protecting me with your service to your country! Second, that's a great idea for me also. I'm getting ready to camp in a small camper with a very small refrigerator and no freezer. I've been wondering how I can cool my water bottles as I don't want to take a cooler with me. I'll try your suggestion this weekend.
Having driven a 27-ft, 1970 Travco there for a number of years (and adding 6 - 8 passengers per trip, to share expenses/take cars off the road) I found that just bringing a huge tent with an even bigger shade structure worked best. No generator needed, I stayed cool enough to nap there during the day. Keeping the windows zipped shut except when napping (etc) also kept my tent so dust-free, people noticed & remarked on it. Even when I drove the Travco up there, I never used a generator. It was fiberglass (way cooler than a metal rig), we taped mylar space blankets over the windows (cheap, cool, and you can still see through them), and we shaded the whole thing with tarps and bungees. MUCH simpler solutions to beating the heat than the power-oriented ones shown in this video.
I've been to BRC 11 times and have learned a lot about staying cool. My rig is a Class B van so I have less to cover but tarping everything you can from above is key. The image you showed of Aluminet touching the roof is useless. There has to be an AIR GAP. I raise them up a few inches with inflatable pool toys. I find the bucket swamp cooler is a waste of time in my van. Evap cooling directly on the body works the best. Cooler melt water soaked rags on the head do the most to cool a person.
Exactly! Without an air gap a shade screen only creates additional insulation to hold IN heat. There's more than one reason that good shade screens allow air thru them. While that does greatly reduce the stress from wind, by far the most important reason is to let the air circulate to prevent heat building up. A good air gap at the highest point is critical.
Water soaked rags on the head is dumb. Your body naturally sweats for cooling. Putting water on your head closes the pours actually giving you heat stoke faster than normal sun. I delt with this crap when playing football years ago. Also having worked outside when on the ranch and having a parent that works on the railroad will say the same. He picks guys up all the time that done the water on head "trick" and damn near killed themselves. Recently a guy was brought to the ER because of it.
I keep several blocks of Blue Ice in my freezer, and on hot nights I just take one to bed with me. Hold it next to a major vein and it cools your core temperature like a champ. Also, my brother came up with a fantastic idea. Buy an overlarge sheet for your bed, tuck the sides in, and then set a box fan under the edge of the sheet down at the foot of the bed. The sheet blows up like a balloon, and cool air circulates all over your body while you sleep.
15 years ago all you needed was a school bus, 10 circus performers and a good bit of acid to attend Burning Man How did they stay cool? Lots of Beer! The rich people are ruining it.
Plastic this plastic that, but don't you dare turn on the generator. The fact that you drove a motor home that gets 7mpg hundreds of miles, but you won't fire up the generator is laughable. You are you trying to fool?
Yes you are. Very cool. Great ideas. I think the best way to help with the heat, if you're walking around, etc, is to wet down your tee shirt or tank and put it back on wet. Thanks for posting.
Great video (as all of yours are) with really useful ideas. I especially like that you included info on what other people were doing and got feedback from what works well - or not. I was thinking ... if you have an extractor fan, it will pull the hot air out of the vehicle but it will also make a negative pressure inside and pull dust in with cooler air. If you have areas of air infiltration, it will even secondarily pull a partial vacuum in your bays underneath and draw dust into them. I was thinking that if you rigged up a fan outside to blow positive pressure into your RV and had that air flowing through the filter, you'd create a positive pressure in the RV. Instead of every little crack and crevice acting as a point to allow dust in, it would be acting as a place to blow dust out. We'll always get a little dust infiltration from areas like the side directly into the wind but if we could make it so that rather having a microscopic bit of dust being blown in every minute, we had a microscopic bit being blown out every minute, it would keep things much cleaner inside. You'd also have an effective place to put your filter -- a filter will work better (OK, the whole system will work better) if the filter is situated so that the positive-pressure air is pushed thought the filter rather than the energy-losing effect of the velocity of the air being reduced by being drawn in by suction. It would also be a perfect location for effective swamp cooler air treatment (put in a matrix after the air filter and dribble water on it). A system like that would need to have a squirrel cage or other positive-pressure fan -- ordinary paddle blade fans move air OK but they don't do well if there's any back pressure or positive pressure that they're using. In fact, if you wanted to be entirely creative, you could work out a bellows operation with a counterweight on a bar against the working part of the bellows (so that you'd only be using energy to actually move air, not overcome the weight of the bellows panel) and power the whole thing by a wobble arm on a windmill. But no matter which device you use to provide the incoming air, it would be best for that incoming air to be under pressure rather than vacuum.
We went to a military supply store and bought a huge camo netting and draped it over my entire RV -- It was big enough that it covered all sides when we threw it over the roof. It was beige camouflage and the holes in it let enough light in thru the windows so we could see during the day. I like your idea of the AC filters for the windows but I've always tried to keep all my windows and doors shut as much as possible. The playa can get some pretty knarly wind storms and the first year I went I came home with a dusty RV. I'm still finding dust in nooks and crannies I never thought I'd find. Hope to see you on on the playa this year. Cheers!
Make sure to use residue free tape such as: No residue all weather duct tape or gaffer tape. You can get colors or clear to blend in better with your RV. This will not leave gummy residue on your stuff and the tiny bit of residue that might be left, easily rubs off. I use residue free or no residue tape for most things now. Also to save tape or if you need narrower strips, these tapes easily tear down the middle if needed.
You're Burners?? 😍 I've been browsing dozens of RV owners channels, but you just became my first ever TH-cam subscription. Hope to see you on playa, dusty hugs to you!
Great tips! Another one I know of is You can freeze a damp towel and when the heat is bad you take it from the freezer wet it a little then wrap it around your neck.
I've thought about going to burning man, but this is the part I'd be scared of. I think it was 115 in Vegas last week or two when I was home. The desert heat is brutal. What a fun video to check out and pick up tips from. You definitely got my wheels turning.
Nice good looking couple posts a well made, well edited, and helpful video about how to take care of yourself at Burning Man and a bunch of people who would never go to Burning Man come out of the woodwork to complain about the video. Makes me think that there are a lot of envious people who really hate their own lives...probably because they are trapped in their own rules and judgement of others.
I used my AC today in 103 Temps an man, it wouldn't cool down after two hours run-time! The propane powered gen worked great, I figured it would shut down, but it did well. To my thinking, in such hot conditions, I will travel in my auto and stay in hotel rooms. But, I am much older and I will not be attending such an event. I was looking for some videos on keeping cool in my new Lance slideout unit... This pretty much answers my questions. Thank You...
2023 reviewing of your video, after this year's muddy mess of a BM festival! Can't help but wonder what seafaring Jason thinks, looking back at his old rope knotting skills!!
I've been following for a few months now, but never went as far as the RV living... I already loved your life on Curiosity but you guys at Burning Man is the best!!!
You know, the idea of using AC filters on the windows gives me an idea i thought i would share. I crack open the roof vents in my fifth wheel when i store it and i tend to get dust and pollen inside over time. Some cut down AC filters might help reduce the dust and pollen infiltration during storage. I guess it would reduce air flow a little but i think the benefits would out weight the draw backs.
:) I came by to rewatch this video. (it's Summer here in Oz and i'm trawling the net looking for tips on insulation) and I had to have a bit of a giggle at your abysmal knot tying skills. How things have changed for you both over the last 2 years. :)
Air con is often a problem off grid however I now think that we can power air con via 12v batteries and an inverter. I am using back contact solar panels from the US. In Europe it is so far OK, whether or not it would work in the heat of the desert is another thing.
Nice, someone who actually looked at a psychrometrics chart. Way to go mike r. Granted it would probably take high quality misters to get that good of a transfer to the water but still, fact. I remember seeing an article a little bit back where some folks working on carbon nanotube structures for an unrelated reason discovered that part of imperfect tubes were serving as > dew point nucleation sites for water that could be made to wick away. So it would drop grains without having to be below dew point. I cant figure out why the hell thats not a wildly successful product by now. I mean, an unpowered dehumidifier is like the holy grail of air conditioning.
Swamp coolers will only cool to the dew point. When the dew point is at 24 C, that is still kinda sweaty for comfortable sleeping. Remember, that's 24 C with 100percent humidity... In the desert, extra humidity from the cooler helps, and, as long as the heat of the day can be dumped from your camp, sleeping is easy because the nights are much cooler.
A good solution to securing tarps or sun shades while avoiding tearing grommets out is with a rubber ball or smooth rock. Place the ball or rock in the tarp and wrap around it, then tie rope around ball cinching it off kind of. Or picture the ball like a dog head and the rope is a leash around the neck. Then tie other end to stake and tighten. That greatly expands the surface area of the tarp that is under tension and will generally last much longer than a grommet of any kind.
Just circled around back to this video. We went to BM last month for the first time and loved it. Our van broke down so we had to tent it instead. Our neighbors were running their generator 24/7 and it was obnoxious! Thanks for showing others, you don't need a generator to get through the week! You guys rock and keep the content coming!
So it's been a few years since my Architecture classes but a couple things come to mind right off the bat that I use in my designs regularly...1) Rotate that RV to run east west to limit the exposed surface area on the sides to direct sun exposure. 2) Use solar powered house attic vent fans on top to move more cfm's of air. Oh, and a 12 volt pump and mister lines around the perimeter. Something I've been reading about are these boards with the top half of 2 liter bottles attached in a grid pattern a kid thought up thats being used in third-world countries.
👍🤩You guys are so adorable. I can’t believe so much time as flown by. I’m just rewatching some old videos to keep views up (especially with a new boat in the works).😉💝
All you need is a fan in the south... you are your own evap cooler.Out west there is no humidity so a fan will only blow hot air...BM is considered north, try Tucson where it hits 117* at times.
phuck ewe as someone who grew up in the South and who now lives in Colorado and been to 8 Burns I can say: you are absolutely correct. The hottest day at Burning Man is nothing compared to a typical hot summer in Atlanta.
Great video... Nice tips. I have always said if I ever even up going back to Burning Man, I am staying in trailer/RV. Never doing the tent thing there again. I will definitely use the filter tip. Thanks!
The clamps, go to harbour freight because they have some great clamps. I bought several sets and use them for hanging all my shade tarps. They are great!
Sticking your feet into a dishpan with cool water in it helps alot. Especially if you don't have a pool or can't go swimming. Good for the elderly during a heatwave. Some water sprinkles/spray/damp towel wipe on your skin, helps alot [its also a form of "evaporative cooling", the water absorbs the heat, and evaporates into the air]. With that, a fan, or the wind, in the shade will make you feel cool/cold.
As you know anything above 90 degrees warrants covering the windows. Ever notice how hot your car interior gets on a sunny 70 degree day? Last year (2017) we had day temps around 110!
If that class a is yours and not a rental I would consider getting at least the roof painted white or chrome, should reduce the temp 5-10 degrees or get a reflective tarp or more reflectix and put on it.
We bought a used single pad home window unit swamp cooler converted it to 12 volt fan and pump mounted permanently (see my videos) using solar 🔋 and it works fantastic! Thanks for info...
Why Burning Man is held at that ridiculously harsh location has always perplexed me. Love the concept of Burning Man, but I'll never attend so long as it is held there - it's just dumb.
I think that's the point actually. To have something big, out in the middle of nowhere, that is a challenge to get to . . . so that people like you never show up.
Roonasaur Hahahaha "A challenge to get to" Paved roads lead you right to and through the black rock desert and graded gravel roads leading in and out of the playa is not a challenge.
No nuke testing in that area. The dust is a very corrosive alkali. Nothing except a hardy breed of brine shrimp can live in it. Without proper nasal moistening, you boogers will take on properties you never knew could exist.
What is the big deal? I used to put in 12 hour days on construction at 105 degrees in the California desert. With low desert humidity the heat is not a problem. And to beat the heat, wear less clothes.
SSSHHHHH! Oz and NZ are what they are because they are relatively isolated. (and because Western "culture" only got there a couple of hundred years ago and hasn't yet had enough time to destroy everything worth having)
PS NZ was (by many thousands of years) the last major land mass to be "discovered" by modern "civilization". When it is degraded, THERE ARE NO MORE (relatively) "UNSPOILED" PLACES. It's only real hope is that western "civilization" collapses before it's had time to destroy NZ (and Oz) beyond recovery.
i notice you didn't tape the windows and compartments this time at BM. can you do a video of what you did different and things you learned from the burns. thanks,mike
There's a whole section on the blog for how the Wynns & other nomads make money and travel. Check it out here: www.gonewiththewynns.com/make-money-travel Curious Minion
My family LIVES in the Black Rock Desert. We have a ranch there. Moved there from wet, damp, moldy WA State . I love it. Dry heat, dry cold. Lots of sun for PV power. Desert usually cools off at night. Burning Man is fun. Mostly.
So no Generator running AC in the 100+ heat at all ? What about the interior getting dusted out by the fans pulling in all the dust? I saw the Air filters, how did it work?
Great video guys! THANKS FOR SHARING THE KNOWLEDGE. I will definitely try some of these out asap. Our Airstream gets up to 95 degrees inside while in partial shade. Best wishes from LHT.
I would get one of them new RVs that use lithium batteries you can run for about 8 hours then the engine or generator kicks in for about 30 minutes you could probably run for about a week on 50 gallons of gas and keep the AC on
Pull a trailer with your RV. 1) Put 500 gal tank on trailer. Hook tank to genarater. Turn on genarater, turn on A.C. 2) Place two (2) 125lbs propain tanks on trailers, hook propain tanks to stove. Cook. Use solar tarp over trailer, to keep fuel cool, if need be run an A.C. tube out from RV under solar cover for additional cooling.
also how much cooler would a white winnebago help you ? I'm thinking of painting my black Honda element white (ish) after reading a study comparing black vs white or silver cars (in the study there was a 1-2 degree difference in interior car temperature)
I lived in a mobile home when a student many decades ago (the old kind with a metal roof) and could not afford air conditioning. One day I got an inspiration and bought a 5 gallon bucket of white roofing paint and painted my bare metal roof. That was good for a full 15 degrees drop in temperature, especially at the hottest part of the day. Then I strung a spray/soaker hose along the lengths of the (most flat) roof. That was good for another 15 degrees and was needed only a few hours out of the day. (But had to stop using it because we were on well water. WATER USE COUNTS, more so now than ever. AWNINGS over sun facing windows (that do NOT trap air!) would do a great deal (but in the USA building and residential codes very aggressively discourage adapting to climate change (no awnings. No solar clothes dryers (AKA clotheslines), no solar water heaters ("unsightly" no matter how well aesthetically designed because it's the very IDEA that's "unsightly"), no visible vegetable gardens ("unsightly" because its the very IDEA that offends), adaptive landscaping (no matter how well aesthetically designed because it's the very IDEA that's "unsightly") and on and on and on and on. The USA culture and governments AT ALL LEVELS are profoundly maladaptive and designed to maintain the status quo right up to the point where it literally kills us.
Hi Wynns. Quick question for ya... how well do swamp coolers work in hot, humid climates like Florida? If they're impotent in said climate, what would you recommend for off grid cooling?
Looks like fun there at burning man, but I could never take my super clean pleasure coach out there, I bet you have a lot of scratches and fine dust everywhere. But, you two sure are entertaining and I kick out of your adventures.
My One tip; If you dont want problems with the shadecloth tearing during wind storms, tie it down with *bunjee cords*. They will keep the shadecloth always feeling right, with no slack parts and an even feel, and they just stretch for a little bit when ever the gusts are bad... it works so well, you wont believe it.
Yes, I was wondering if the tarp could simply be put over the RV and then bungeed to the underside of the vehicle.... I am thinking of doing this when I go car camping. I'll be parked at temporary locations and can't use rebar in the ground. I am concerned that the tarp will be stolen during the day when I'm away from my vehicle, however.
Use bungee cords to keep tarps from ripping. They stretch so your tarps don't die. It puts stress on the tarp holders and they rip. They need to flex.
It's more of a survival tactic than something to do while boondocking but in Iraq when we didn't have ANYTHING we would cool bottles of water down by hanging them in wet socks under our awning. The wind would blow through the thick socks, evaporate, and cool the water. We're talking 130 degrees down to about 98 degrees, but when you've spent a month drinking hot water to cool off, 98 degree water is an improvement. And it might be a bit more effective in climates below 130 degrees.
I can see you guys hanging up pictures of cool spring water. It wouldn't help but it might deflect your thoughs. It's good that you're issued 2 pairs of socks.
First, thanks for protecting me with your service to your country! Second, that's a great idea for me also. I'm getting ready to camp in a small camper with a very small refrigerator and no freezer. I've been wondering how I can cool my water bottles as I don't want to take a cooler with me. I'll try your suggestion this weekend.
Get a terra cotta wine cooler and keep your water in wine bottles. As long as the terra cotta stays wet, it stays cool.
Bro you endured hell on earth for your countrymen. Much appreciated.
Having driven a 27-ft, 1970 Travco there for a number of years (and adding 6 - 8 passengers per trip, to share expenses/take cars off the road) I found that just bringing a huge tent with an even bigger shade structure worked best. No generator needed, I stayed cool enough to nap there during the day. Keeping the windows zipped shut except when napping (etc) also kept my tent so dust-free, people noticed & remarked on it.
Even when I drove the Travco up there, I never used a generator. It was fiberglass (way cooler than a metal rig), we taped mylar space blankets over the windows (cheap, cool, and you can still see through them), and we shaded the whole thing with tarps and bungees.
MUCH simpler solutions to beating the heat than the power-oriented ones shown in this video.
I've been to BRC 11 times and have learned a lot about staying cool. My rig is a Class B van so I have less to cover but tarping everything you can from above is key. The image you showed of Aluminet touching the roof is useless. There has to be an AIR GAP. I raise them up a few inches with inflatable pool toys. I find the bucket swamp cooler is a waste of time in my van. Evap cooling directly on the body works the best. Cooler melt water soaked rags on the head do the most to cool a person.
Exactly! Without an air gap a shade screen only creates additional insulation to hold IN heat. There's more than one reason that good shade screens allow air thru them. While that does greatly reduce the stress from wind, by far the most important reason is to let the air circulate to prevent heat building up. A good air gap at the highest point is critical.
Water soaked rags on the head is dumb. Your body naturally sweats for cooling. Putting water on your head closes the pours actually giving you heat stoke faster than normal sun. I delt with this crap when playing football years ago. Also having worked outside when on the ranch and having a parent that works on the railroad will say the same. He picks guys up all the time that done the water on head "trick" and damn near killed themselves. Recently a guy was brought to the ER because of it.
Take a long sleeve cotton t-shirt, get it wet, wring it out, put it on and it feels cool against your skin as the water evaporates.
I keep several blocks of Blue Ice in my freezer, and on hot nights I just take one to bed with me. Hold it next to a major vein and it cools your core temperature like a champ. Also, my brother came up with a fantastic idea. Buy an overlarge sheet for your bed, tuck the sides in, and then set a box fan under the edge of the sheet down at the foot of the bed. The sheet blows up like a balloon, and cool air circulates all over your body while you sleep.
15 years ago all you needed was a school bus, 10 circus performers and a good bit of acid to attend Burning Man How did they stay cool? Lots of Beer! The rich people are ruining it.
It's not a money problem, but a mentality problem!
David the good ol days
as my gaffer friends used to say, if you don't know a knot, tie a lot.
if you can't tie a knot, tie a lot.**
Ha ha, I love that.
they're probably a lot better at know tying now since they're on a boat!
Plastic this plastic that, but don't you dare turn on the generator. The fact that you drove a motor home that gets 7mpg hundreds of miles, but you won't fire up the generator is laughable. You are you trying to fool?
It's simply in their nature.
People really don't realize just how many things in our world come from hydrocarbons.
I think the issue with generators at camp is the noise and LOCAL pollution nuisances
Jeff that is Ironic
@@robertjacoby5180 Get an extension cord and put your generator 15 yards away, problem solved
Yes you are. Very cool. Great ideas. I think the best way to help with the heat, if you're walking around, etc, is to wet down your tee shirt or tank and put it back on wet. Thanks for posting.
Great video (as all of yours are) with really useful ideas. I especially like that you included info on what other people were doing and got feedback from what works well - or not.
I was thinking ... if you have an extractor fan, it will pull the hot air out of the vehicle but it will also make a negative pressure inside and pull dust in with cooler air. If you have areas of air infiltration, it will even secondarily pull a partial vacuum in your bays underneath and draw dust into them. I was thinking that if you rigged up a fan outside to blow positive pressure into your RV and had that air flowing through the filter, you'd create a positive pressure in the RV. Instead of every little crack and crevice acting as a point to allow dust in, it would be acting as a place to blow dust out. We'll always get a little dust infiltration from areas like the side directly into the wind but if we could make it so that rather having a microscopic bit of dust being blown in every minute, we had a microscopic bit being blown out every minute, it would keep things much cleaner inside. You'd also have an effective place to put your filter -- a filter will work better (OK, the whole system will work better) if the filter is situated so that the positive-pressure air is pushed thought the filter rather than the energy-losing effect of the velocity of the air being reduced by being drawn in by suction. It would also be a perfect location for effective swamp cooler air treatment (put in a matrix after the air filter and dribble water on it).
A system like that would need to have a squirrel cage or other positive-pressure fan -- ordinary paddle blade fans move air OK but they don't do well if there's any back pressure or positive pressure that they're using. In fact, if you wanted to be entirely creative, you could work out a bellows operation with a counterweight on a bar against the working part of the bellows (so that you'd only be using energy to actually move air, not overcome the weight of the bellows panel) and power the whole thing by a wobble arm on a windmill. But no matter which device you use to provide the incoming air, it would be best for that incoming air to be under pressure rather than vacuum.
We went to a military supply store and bought a huge camo netting and draped it over my entire RV -- It was big enough that it covered all sides when we threw it over the roof. It was beige camouflage and the holes in it let enough light in thru the windows so we could see during the day.
I like your idea of the AC filters for the windows but I've always tried to keep all my windows and doors shut as much as possible. The playa can get some pretty knarly wind storms and the first year I went I came home with a dusty RV. I'm still finding dust in nooks and crannies I never thought I'd find.
Hope to see you on on the playa this year.
Cheers!
My plan would be to turn on my generator and run the A/C and crack open a can of Corona and burn one at Burning Man.
Corona is one of the worst rated beers. Even worse that they have a new distributor the last few years. Buy Shiner
Make sure to use residue free tape such as: No residue all weather duct tape or gaffer tape. You can get colors or clear to blend in better with your RV. This will not leave gummy residue on your stuff and the tiny bit of residue that might be left, easily rubs off. I use residue free or no residue tape for most things now. Also to save tape or if you need narrower strips, these tapes easily tear down the middle if needed.
You're Burners?? 😍 I've been browsing dozens of RV owners channels, but you just became my first ever TH-cam subscription. Hope to see you on playa, dusty hugs to you!
Great tips! Another one I know of is You can freeze a damp towel and when the heat is bad you take it from the freezer wet it a little then wrap it around your neck.
Take a long sleeve cotton t-shirt, get it wet, wring it out, put it on and it feels cool against your skin as the water evaporates.
I've thought about going to burning man, but this is the part I'd be scared of. I think it was 115 in Vegas last week or two when I was home. The desert heat is brutal. What a fun video to check out and pick up tips from. You definitely got my wheels turning.
Just go
I went there, and let me tell you, the heat feels like being just 20 miles from an atomic explosion
Since I am new to this RV lifestyle I have not spent time in the RV in extreme heat yet. These ideas will help, thanks.
boy the Wynns really tough it out, out there. Don't they?
Jelly?
my wife and I love your videos!! love love love em!
I love your outfits. You both are adorable..
Thank you
Nice good looking couple posts a well made, well edited, and helpful video about how to take care of yourself at Burning Man and a bunch of people who would never go to Burning Man come out of the woodwork to complain about the video. Makes me think that there are a lot of envious people who really hate their own lives...probably because they are trapped in their own rules and judgement of others.
I definitely wouldn't go there, for a lot of reasons. but there are a lot of people who do.
Interesting video. But the more I research Burning Man, I can't help but conclude it would be easier to just NOT go to Burning Man.
No one goes to Burning Man because it's easy. Part of the experience is the challenge of surviving out there.
Knowledge is knowledge my dude, if it works on a frying pan of a location like the playa it's going to work damn near anywhere.
I used my AC today in 103 Temps an man, it wouldn't cool down after two hours run-time! The propane powered gen worked great, I figured it would shut down, but it did well. To my thinking, in such hot conditions, I will travel in my auto and stay in hotel rooms. But, I am much older and I will not be attending such an event.
I was looking for some videos on keeping cool in my new Lance slideout unit... This pretty much answers my questions. Thank You...
2023 reviewing of your video, after this year's muddy mess of a BM festival!
Can't help but wonder what seafaring Jason thinks, looking back at his old rope knotting skills!!
Love the filter in window idea!
I've been following for a few months now, but never went as far as the RV living... I already loved your life on Curiosity but you guys at Burning Man is the best!!!
You know, the idea of using AC filters on the windows gives me an idea i thought i would share. I crack open the roof vents in my fifth wheel when i store it and i tend to get dust and pollen inside over time. Some cut down AC filters might help reduce the dust and pollen infiltration during storage. I guess it would reduce air flow a little but i think the benefits would out weight the draw backs.
:) I came by to rewatch this video. (it's Summer here in Oz and i'm trawling the net looking for tips on insulation) and I had to have a bit of a giggle at your abysmal knot tying skills. How things have changed for you both over the last 2 years. :)
ha, i forgot about the knot comment in this video :)
@@gonewiththewynns Just going through the backlog of videos now and laughed at the knot comment too. What a difference a day makes...
Great ideas! Do you have a plan for rooftop vent conversion to swamp cooler? If so, can you share?
So Cool! I love our AEZ community, and I am so glad you posted this. I actually sewed my own shade structure for over our fifthwheel, one of a kind.
Air con is often a problem off grid however I now think that we can power air con via 12v batteries and an inverter. I am using back contact solar panels from the US. In Europe it is so far OK, whether or not it would work in the heat of the desert is another thing.
FYI, Evaporative coolers only work in VERY DRY climates such as deserts. They are worthless when humidity levels rise above 15-20%.
At 32 °C (90 °F) and 50% relative humidity, air may be cooled to about 24 °C (75 °F), hardly seems worthless
Nice, someone who actually looked at a psychrometrics chart. Way to go mike r. Granted it would probably take high quality misters to get that good of a transfer to the water but still, fact. I remember seeing an article a little bit back where some folks working on carbon nanotube structures for an unrelated reason discovered that part of imperfect tubes were serving as > dew point nucleation sites for water that could be made to wick away. So it would drop grains without having to be below dew point. I cant figure out why the hell thats not a wildly successful product by now. I mean, an unpowered dehumidifier is like the holy grail of air conditioning.
I use an evaporative cooler in humid Florida it's not as good here but still cooler than a fan.
Swamp coolers will only cool to the dew point.
When the dew point is at 24 C, that is still kinda sweaty for comfortable sleeping.
Remember, that's 24 C with 100percent humidity...
In the desert, extra humidity from the cooler helps, and, as long as the heat of the day can be dumped from your camp, sleeping is easy because the nights are much cooler.
A good solution to securing tarps or sun shades while avoiding tearing grommets out is with a rubber ball or smooth rock. Place the ball or rock in the tarp and wrap around it, then tie rope around ball cinching it off kind of. Or picture the ball like a dog head and the rope is a leash around the neck. Then tie other end to stake and tighten. That greatly expands the surface area of the tarp that is under tension and will generally last much longer than a grommet of any kind.
Great info. Thanks. I don't plan to go to Burning Man but the info applies to most camping, at that level of luxury. 😎
Just circled around back to this video. We went to BM last month for the first time and loved it. Our van broke down so we had to tent it instead. Our neighbors were running their generator 24/7 and it was obnoxious! Thanks for showing others, you don't need a generator to get through the week! You guys rock and keep the content coming!
I burned yearly until 2007....lotsa changes on the playa!!! You guys seem too nice for that changed scene.
Spritzing the filters with water - brilliant!
So it's been a few years since my Architecture classes but a couple things come to mind right off the bat that I use in my designs regularly...1) Rotate that RV to run east west to limit the exposed surface area on the sides to direct sun exposure. 2) Use solar powered house attic vent fans on top to move more cfm's of air. Oh, and a 12 volt pump and mister lines around the perimeter. Something I've been reading about are these boards with the top half of 2 liter bottles attached in a grid pattern a kid thought up thats being used in third-world countries.
👍🤩You guys are so adorable. I can’t believe so much time as flown by. I’m just rewatching some old videos to keep views up (especially with a new boat in the works).😉💝
heat is nothing without humidity try south Carolina in august.
Humidity just get you sweaty, the worse thing that can happen is when the air is actually hot so not even the shade is fresh
prestonbarr
All you need is a fan in the south... you are your own evap cooler.Out west there is no humidity so a fan will only blow hot air...BM is considered north, try Tucson where it hits 117* at times.
South Carolina is fucking disgusting... I'll never go nack
phuck ewe as someone who grew up in the South and who now lives in Colorado and been to 8 Burns I can say: you are absolutely correct. The hottest day at Burning Man is nothing compared to a typical hot summer in Atlanta.
Great video... Nice tips. I have always said if I ever even up going back to Burning Man, I am staying in trailer/RV. Never doing the tent thing there again. I will definitely use the filter tip. Thanks!
Environmentally friendly isn’t really what you want when you are in the 115* desert. I’m going for nice and cool
Great job, love your videos. This was very educational for me. I enjoyed seeing the ideas. Thanks for sharing.
This was such a fun video. I love the creativity thanks for sharing!!
The clamps, go to harbour freight because they have some great clamps. I bought several sets and use them for hanging all my shade tarps. They are great!
Okay Donnie and Marie going to Burning Man has officially blown my mind (and maybe turned me on a little;-) !
Sticking your feet into a dishpan with cool water in it helps alot. Especially if you don't have a pool or can't go swimming. Good for the elderly during a heatwave. Some water sprinkles/spray/damp towel wipe on your skin, helps alot [its also a form of "evaporative cooling", the water absorbs the heat, and evaporates into the air]. With that, a fan, or the wind, in the shade will make you feel cool/cold.
Fist time to watch. Learned alot. Loved it. Going to share.
Is this your new rv? I love the kitchen herb garden!
My husband and I are renovating an rv and this video was super helpful. Thank you!! Stay cool :)
Are you guys going to Burning Man this year? We will, with our Avion camper.. Thanks for the tips, learned a lot
Very cool! Thanks for sharing this video =)
I see what you did there ❄️
Makes a huge difference covering your windows like that! Just curious when you were there how hot was it???
As you know anything above 90 degrees warrants covering the windows. Ever notice how hot your car interior gets on a sunny 70 degree day? Last year (2017) we had day temps around 110!
All very great ideas I like the silver illuminate shading.
If that class a is yours and not a rental I would consider getting at least the roof painted white or chrome, should reduce the temp 5-10 degrees or get a reflective tarp or more reflectix and put on it.
We bought a used single pad home window unit swamp cooler converted it to 12 volt fan and pump mounted permanently (see my videos) using solar 🔋 and it works fantastic! Thanks for info...
reflectives and evap cooling with a solar setup is the way to go. Nice!!
Why Burning Man is held at that ridiculously harsh location has always perplexed me. Love the concept of Burning Man, but I'll never attend so long as it is held there - it's just dumb.
I think that's the point actually. To have something big, out in the middle of nowhere, that is a challenge to get to . . . so that people like you never show up.
Roonasaur well said
Roonasaur Hahahaha "A challenge to get to" Paved roads lead you right to and through the black rock desert and graded gravel roads leading in and out of the playa is not a challenge.
No nuke testing in that area. The dust is a very corrosive alkali. Nothing except a hardy breed of brine shrimp can live in it. Without proper nasal moistening, you boogers will take on properties you never knew could exist.
budsman8207 Unless it rains.
Good information.
Love your posts... well produced, amusing and informative... thanks Wynns!
How efficient are RV generators? The 6.5kW on my boat burns about 1/4 gallon per hour and is well worth it while off of shore power
Hi guys, very cool video(as always) and great info. Not sure if I will ever be at Burning Man, but great information!
you guys are awesome! hope to see you on the Playa!!
+Connor Bourne We're hittin' the water this year so it'll be a while before we make it back to a Burn.
I'm in love with your little indoor garden. So stinking cute!!! 😍😍😍
Are you going to be coming down to Hoover Dam? Would love to meet you guys if you do!!! I'm 18 and full time eventually like you do :)
What is the big deal? I used to put in 12 hour days on construction at 105 degrees in the California desert. With low desert humidity the heat is not a problem.
And to beat the heat, wear less clothes.
Obviously, the Bedouins got it wrong wearing all the robes they wear in the desert.
some really cooooooooooool ideas, thanks for sharing.
Have you guys ever thought about heading down under to Australia or New Zealand and doing some RVing?
Cool. The Simpsons did an episode about this community
SSSHHHHH! Oz and NZ are what they are because they are relatively isolated.
(and because Western "culture" only got there a couple of hundred years ago and hasn't yet had enough time to destroy everything worth having)
PS NZ was (by many thousands of years) the last major land mass to be "discovered" by modern "civilization". When it is degraded, THERE ARE NO MORE (relatively) "UNSPOILED" PLACES.
It's only real hope is that western "civilization" collapses before it's had time to destroy NZ (and Oz) beyond recovery.
I'm Curious Nikki if you still have that Sun Oven on the boat? Looks cool 😀
Step 1. Buy multimillion dollar RV.
Step 2. Put a bunch of reflective trash on it.
Step 3. Turn on the AC.
Smh...
i notice you didn't tape the windows and compartments this time at BM. can you do a video of what you did different and things you learned from the burns. thanks,mike
Good stuff guys! And just CRAZY what people can come up with. We've just got to get to Burning Man someday. Cheers!
Unbelievable what exist in the world. Very nice. Greetings from Germany with many trees :-)
what do you and the misses do for work. That is a great set up for Burning Man.
There's a whole section on the blog for how the Wynns & other nomads make money and travel. Check it out here: www.gonewiththewynns.com/make-money-travel
Curious Minion
best way to stay cool is to stay out of the desert. I would camp elsewhere
Need to do a "Burning Man" in North Dakota.
My family LIVES in the Black Rock Desert. We have a ranch there. Moved there from wet, damp, moldy WA State . I love it. Dry heat, dry cold. Lots of sun for PV power. Desert usually cools off at night. Burning Man is fun. Mostly.
@@Patriotgal1 What do you grow on a ranch in a desert? Rocks? Cactuses?
Speak for yourself
Less people in the desert and the rich pushed us natives to desert in idaho. We want quiet and solitude so we will b in the desert. 🏜
Great info. I learned new things. Ty
So no Generator running AC in the 100+ heat at all ? What about the interior getting dusted out by the fans pulling in all the dust? I saw the Air filters, how did it work?
Great video guys! THANKS FOR SHARING THE KNOWLEDGE. I will definitely try some of these out asap. Our Airstream gets up to 95 degrees inside while in partial shade. Best wishes from LHT.
Thanks for this. Lots of great ideas here.
And, yes, y'all ARE pretty cool!
Happy Trails!
I would get one of them new RVs that use lithium batteries you can run for about 8 hours then the engine or generator kicks in for about 30 minutes you could probably run for about a week on 50 gallons of gas and keep the AC on
I sold rvs. That rig you have is nice. No way the gen is too loud to run.
That'd depend on Burning Mans' rules.
Hey cool tips.... I really enjoyed burning man. Never knew of such a thing. :) thanks
I think youve gotten pretty good at knot tying since this video lmao
nice job
Thanks for the great tips. You guys are awesome.
I use the same idea but I have always used swamp cooler pads and they work really well. 4:11
you weren't overcharged on your tarp cost in Reno.. ours is 20 x 24 and cost $260 on line, delivered. nice vid. thanks.
Pull a trailer with your RV.
1) Put 500 gal tank on trailer. Hook tank to genarater. Turn on genarater, turn on A.C.
2) Place two (2) 125lbs propain tanks on trailers, hook propain tanks to stove. Cook.
Use solar tarp over trailer, to keep fuel cool, if need be run an A.C. tube out from RV under solar cover for additional cooling.
You live way better at burning man then i do in normal life.
Thats was awesome! Thanks for this...
Awesome! I could get a solar shade to cover my car here in Vegas when it gets super hot.
Wonderful tips thanks a million
also how much cooler would a white winnebago help you ? I'm thinking of painting my black Honda element white (ish) after reading a study comparing black vs white or silver cars (in the study there was a 1-2 degree difference in interior car temperature)
+Aaron Umetani light colors definitely help. The black gets toasty.
Aaron Umetani more than that
When I moved south from Wisconsin, I knew I was in the Bible Belt, and I thought that was why so many vehicles were white, AND THE SUN !
I lived in a mobile home when a student many decades ago (the old kind with a metal roof) and could not afford air conditioning. One day I got an inspiration and bought a 5 gallon bucket of white roofing paint and painted my bare metal roof. That was good for a full 15 degrees drop in temperature, especially at the hottest part of the day.
Then I strung a spray/soaker hose along the lengths of the (most flat) roof. That was good for another 15 degrees and was needed only a few hours out of the day. (But had to stop using it because we were on well water. WATER USE COUNTS, more so now than ever.
AWNINGS over sun facing windows (that do NOT trap air!) would do a great deal (but in the USA building and residential codes very aggressively discourage adapting to climate change (no awnings. No solar clothes dryers (AKA clotheslines), no solar water heaters ("unsightly" no matter how well aesthetically designed because it's the very IDEA that's "unsightly"), no visible vegetable gardens ("unsightly" because its the very IDEA that offends), adaptive landscaping (no matter how well aesthetically designed because it's the very IDEA that's "unsightly") and on and on and on and on.
The USA culture and governments AT ALL LEVELS are profoundly maladaptive and designed to maintain the status quo right up to the point where it literally kills us.
Jim Barron that is exactly why most conservatives libertarians want less government control let people do what they want with their property.
Hi Wynns. Quick question for ya... how well do swamp coolers work in hot, humid climates like Florida? If they're impotent in said climate, what would you recommend for off grid cooling?
Swamp coolers do NOT work in hi humidity. Here in PHX we have 3 mo of humidity; get the most efficient A/C sold.
Im glad to be home streaming the MAN live, insyead of a gidforsaken desert!!!
Well Jason, you're looking dapper. Nikki, digging that meowy look.
Great tips! Was this 2014?
Any additional info on swamp cooler shown last that you swap out where regular vent fan is located?
Looks like fun there at burning man, but I could never take my super clean pleasure coach out there, I bet you have a lot of scratches and fine dust everywhere. But, you two sure are entertaining and I kick out of your adventures.