Can you GAME on Intels First iGPU?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- Hello and Welcome to another Budget Builds Video where today we're taking a look at Intels first IGP, the Intel 810 Chipset, also known as the Intel i752, which was the first time Intel ever incorporated one of their GPUs into their motherboard, making it their first ever form of integrated graphics produced by intel.
So join us as we learn about about the learn the history of the card, how it came into creation, and just how well it performs nowerdays...Cause lets be honest we've all experienced an Intel GPU at some point, but what was it like back at the begining.
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CPU: Intel Pentium III 733Mhz
RAM: 256MB SD RAM
GPU: Intel i752 (Intel Chipset)
Hearing "dual rendering pipeline and 1 shader map unit" is like when people from 2050 hear "6 cores and 12 threads"...
You’ll probably be alive when that happens...
Yet again, when kids at that time hear how powerful the 1080 was....
a 1080 has 2560 shader units :D
+SerBallister a shader unit is not a mapping unit! A gtx1080 "only" has 160 mapping units.
A shader unit is essentially a very small processor which can execute arbitrary shader code, while a shader map does nothing more then warp a texture so it can be mapped to a polygon.
6 cores isn't really groundbreaking now.
@@Jake1702 in 31 years dummy.
Can it run games is out of the question. CAN IT WALK GAMES?
Dude Guy
The chip doesnt even have legs! Its only there to suck power. Its a parasite!
it can crawl them
It actually ran quite a lot of games at the time.
@@scottrich976 I mean, we can see that in the video, albeit it seems it really struggled in titles which were recent when the iGPU was released.
Shit bro it’s paralyzed at this point
The PC cafe I frequented in 1999 had i740s installed on the PCs and it was quite capable of running games of that period. I mostly ran Half-Life mods (Counter-Strike Beta anyone?!?) and Quake 3 Arena with my friends and also some single-player focused games. (Homeworld ran not bad...)
5:49 Benchmarking
I have this old graphics back in 2002 but its 82810e, of course its terrible.
But at least Max Payne and Unreal Tournament runs OK
Ps1 gpu is better than that
In some cases ,yes
the PS1 is pretty amazing considering it has a 33MHz processor dating from the late 80s, with 2MB of RAM and even less VRAM lol
RWL2012 fyi PlayStation released on December 1994, and ps1 at year 2000
They had better optimization didn't they?
XDangerZone640X games are optimized specifically for consoles.
I have an ASRock P4i45GV, my grandfather gave me that board, still working fine with a Northwood Celeron 1.8GHz
Games which have some 3D include these:
carmageddon, baldurs gate 2, nightmare-creatures, resident-evil, 7th-guest, deus-ex (software-mode).
Running an AmigaOS might have some better written versions of games (hexen2, quake, wipeout, etc).
My first GPU :) Ran AvP well enough to give me my first online gaming experience.
Back from a time when not every solder joint would crack within 10 years...
I had an Intel 845GL. Aka 'extreme graphics'.
The only thing extreme was it's slowness....
I would have loved to see this chips performance in Age of Empires 2.
3:43 look at the posted time, nice.
Great video as always
Got an Asus CUSL2 which uses the i815 chipset, including the integrated graphics.
It got AGP and can easily run >150 FSB.
I have an intel i815 igpu and it plays quake 3 more or less fine :v
Such a nostalgia trip
love it
it's crazy at the time the actors were matrox, intel, 3dfx, via, s3 and after ati (amd now) and nvidia who got everyone in trouble others who left the field for this concentrate in other domain
740 I believe was suppose to demo the agp slot.... I own least 1 agp card:P and pretty sure least 1 mobo with it onboard
Thanks for interesting video
I hope Intel newest Arc GPU prosper more than 18 mere month. 35 buck sound so affordable
Im living with a Pentium J2900 CPU and its iGPU for 6 years. I want to die. Minecraft in 1 FPS
I'm pretty sure I had this igp on my 1st computer, it had a Celeron 533mhz and 64mb of RAM (i think the igp shared memory was set to 2mb) and i used it to play stuffs like quake 2, tomb raider II and III (i don't remember if it ran Last revelation), test drive 5, fifa 98, fifa 2000, the 1st hitman i think was somewhat playable
I remember the i810 being the worst chipset they released. Chipsets before and after this were much better and _less crappy_
good shit man good shit
I still have these WOrking FUlly with a GPU Works beautifully
Hi, my grandma gave me an old intel atom laptop with gma graphics and it struggled to run quake 2 at 720p
Forget the card, I want to know what's the deal with those wasted worker wasps.
Are they what chavs evolved from?
Hey i want to build a pc from some old 2007 parts i found including a very lucky find from my basement i found the Radeon HD 2600 PRO Graphics card and i want to see how it works so when i build the pc i can price it fairly. Thanks if you do make the video
It's funny to watch this video with a 1080 Ti.
2:35 they did not optimize the chip. The same thing happened to the PowerVR CLX2 when it was taken from the Dreamcast and put in a PC as the Neon 250. Because it was not optimized fully it had problems with filtration and rendering something that it did perfectly in the Dreamcast. Real3D fucked up and it killed them while Power VR left the PC market and moved on to the mobile GPU and did pretty well until Apple made their own GPUs and then some Chinese company bought them and is probably gonna steal all the technology for China..rip
May i know what board were you using?
Woah, this gives me nightmares. Used it so much, and it was diabolically bad...
god are you nuts! I remember these things coming in business computers. It would skip and stutter running Windows 2D... just moving windows around the screen would stutter.. they where so bad!
Minesweeper - that means yes u can
I remember having this as a kid from a old Office PC I would only be able to play roblox and would get 40-15 FPS On it
Intel graphics: "I expect nothing and I'm still let down."
When you multiply 0 by infinity
@@sm_1425 That actually works. 0 * infinity = Not Defined. You don't even get nothing. You get less information than 'nothing'. :P
lol
"My dissapointment is immesurable and my day is ruined."
@@rich1051414 That happens when you divide by 0. Anything multiplied by 0 is just 0.
Can it at least show a screenshot of Crysis?
at around 96x64 resolution
oh yeah yeah
Nope
🤔🤣🤣🤣
Maybe. But maybe not in 32-bits colordepth ;)
This is less of 'Can it run Crysis' and more 'Can It RUN?' 😄
*LAUGHING CRYING EMOJI* *LAUGHING CRYING EMOJI* *LAUGHING CRYING EMOJI*
@@laibaqureshi3310 I have no idea.
Can it walk
@@AlpineTheHusky it got its legs cut off =(. it still has its arms tho so it can crawl, but not walk.
@@Xader726 CAN IT MOVE
Calling it the Extreme...you have to admire their optimism lol.
Nice work man!
extremely "terrible" :P
The extreme series was the i845 and i865 igpus
Extreme ASF 😂😂😂👌👌
While not deserving being called "extreme", it's definitely not that bad. He clearly has a performance issue. The processor is 266MHz faster in this video, but it can't be only that : th-cam.com/video/KektuzPKktQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=cYItHCLMJxk_hBV4&t=1477
@@GregoryKowalkowski XD
A large factor in Unreal's poor performance here was that this graphics chip would force you into using the infamous Direct3D renderer without modifying the game. To give you an idea of its performance, on my personal retro machine; a Pentium III 866 MHz, and a GeForce 4 Ti 4600 on the 45.23 driver, I would fairly frequently get dips below 20 fps in hectic battles even if I set the resolution to 640x480--but I never tested with lower settings than max because I felt that I shouldn't _need_ to lower settings with my overkill hardware. Oddly resolution barely helps (or hurts) at all with that renderer. (I ended up using an unofficial opengl 3.0 renderer that was _waaay_ better).
The game was built to use either the software renderer or the Glide renderer, but software would not really reflect as a benchmark on this chip's performance (even though it would probably run _better_ at low resolutions), and this chip can't use the Glide API so Direct3D was the logical choice here.
Licentious Howler 3dfx glide was amazing for it's time. We're still behind on Api's now it kills everyone's experiences :(
While Glide was rad and 3dfx pioneered so many concepts with it (among other things), I disagree about being behind; we live in a great time for APIs imo when you have an open-source API like Vulkan that is getting actually decent support, and can go toe-to-toe or sometimes perform outright _better_ than Microsoft's best low-level efforts.
(And DX11 or Opengl are fine widely-supported fallbacks if you just need something that works for a simple project.)
My God we need more Vulkan games. Playing Doom with Vulkan enabled sold me on it. I think it performs better than DX12.
The original unreal I had to run software mode on my 740 back in the day....
A workaround is an OpenGL wrapper. Got Unreal Gold and installed in PlayOnLinux with a Geforce 6150 (integrated and nouveau driver) and later an AMD Radeon HD 4350 and almost no issues at D3D.
Get the AGP Intel graphics card and put it on an AMD mobo.
I've actually done this, it's a pretty fun idea for a video. Not spoiling, but if you want an extreme bottleneck, the best AMD mobo with AGP slot is the Asus A8V Deluxe (supports Dual Athlon FX of socket 939) (loved by me and Phil from Phil's computer lab) or the Biostar K8M800 Micro AM2 (really shitty mobo, but to my knowledge, the only AGP mobo with AM2 CPU support and DDR2 RAM), good luck.
Janghan Hong the a8v deluxe is a terrible motherboard. I picked one up because it was one of the few left to support my orphaned Opteron 185, and all it did was corrupt the install within minutes of installing the accursed VIA chipset drivers.
asrock am2nf3-vsta is an am2 board that has agp. also supports ddr2 and am3 cpus too.
VIA makes some of the best 9x chipset drivers, I don't know what use case you had.Get the normie socket 939 with a PCIE slot if you aren't planning to use it with AGP card and Windows 9x
yeah, forget what I said, that's the best AGP mobo by far, it's got Nvidia chipset too, which makes this a full RGB retro build with just CPU, mobo, and "GPU".
This makes the 8400GT seem like a GTX 1080 in comparison
It is! I had a crappy x550 and it did laps on the crappy i915 i had on the mobo. And it also wasnt full of missing textures and glitches. Even the drivers were crap.
@Order66 i had the 256mb 8600GT lol. 1024x768 medium was playable at the beginning with 30fps average. On the final level had to drop to 800x600 Low and still got like 10fps lmao
I went from a single core 1.8 ghz system with a 6200A to a dual core 3.1 ghz with a 9800GT bought with self earned money from my side job delivering newspapers back in 2008. It felt amazing!
This makes a 2060 seem like a Super Computer
O! i have 9400GT passive
But you know what???!!
My most powerful gpu now is HD4000
which runs everything!!!
Dirt 2, 3, rally2015
Battlefield 3, 4, hardline
COD Black Ops2
gta v
even witcher3 with graphic tweaks
crysis 1,2,3
Its the best GPU i will ever need
really!!
Ugh dude you're giving me flashbacks of the computer i was stuck with for a large bit of my childhood
The Minimum Wage
You should have asked for a radeon X300 for your birthday.
Big F
I don't know why intel decided to make a gpu almost purposely bad, if theyre going to make something, do it well, seems to match their marketing today, over hype for something not as good as they say
X Razorsz X Yep, still rocking a Skylake, as that is the last generation of CPUs that Intel supports for Windows 7.
Igpu from Intel isn't intended for gaming though..
ridwan rf If if can't even run these games on low then it's not really intended for anything... just being bad.
@@nightcorevampire9169 Not all PCs are game rigs, dude. These setups were intended for general use - word processors, web browsing, watching video, and so on. They had SOME meager game capability, but anyone wanting to run really graphics-intensive stuff pretty much knew onboard graphics were not up to snuff, and you'd need an add-in board.
When I built machines back in the 90s and early 2000s, boards with integrated graphics were the ticket to selling more-or-less modern computers at a competitive price (while still maintaining something of a profit margin) - and if the custy wanted game capability, an add-in card was the 'upgrade path' (along with a slightly better-spec CPU, some more memory, and a bump to a larger, faster hard drive).
The funny part is that my "gaming" pc has a 4mb onboard pci graphics chip and it doesnt even have 3d acceleration and it can do just as much as those intel igpus xD
(Btw its a 200mhz pentiun mmx if you are wondering)
*looks at the motherboard* oh sorry i was too busy looking at the clean motherboard to comment
This video was about a graphics chip? I couldn't stop looking at the lead solder on that motherboard. It was so shiny.
Paul Frederick Thats because they used leaded solder. Since the EU's RoHS program forbade lead in any household appliance, all solder is now lead-free, which lead to more failures of solder points. Without doubt, leaded solder was superior in every way
You're spelling your name wrong, Captain Obvious.
If I keep anything for a while I re flow and ball it with leaded solder.
I had one of those back when they were new. Kept if for a week and returned it for an S3 Virge card which was much better for what I needed at the time (re: not playing games). The i740 was the worst graphics card I ever owned.
I'm overly obsessed with old hardware and old processors, so I love these kinds of videos, so much so I replicated the Scott CPU ("How a CPU Works" video, just search it if you're interested.) in the Lua programming language, except mine ran at 200Mhz after special compilation processes in which I compiled it down to a barebones assembly program.
Imagine having a build with cpu being this and the gpu being the rtx 3090
Earliest motherboard you can get with PCI Express is Socket 939, so you could do a low power Athlon 64 or Sempron... those boards use regular DDR so you could use a 64MB stick and have that be an even bigger bottleneck than the CPU, needing at that point a miniscule commandline Linux or BSD and games you can launch from a tty...
@@BringMayFlowersthat's assuming you can install and run the drivers, if not then it's pretty much worthless
This is cool, I just got a laptop with a Rage M1 mobillity chip looking forward to seeing what it can do, I remeber when I had my Q6600 system last year it had a Intel express fmaily chipset or something for its graphgics and I was really curious to see what Intle graphics were like before the main "Intel HD graphics" we all know these days
I have Intel Extreme Graphics 2 in an HP d530. It runs half-life(cd version) in 720p smoothly without a drop. Works perfecty with a 1440x900 monitor and Windows XP.
Finally got a chance to watch this video. Loved the video, seeing these games brought back some good memories.
I'm actually curious to see how well it'd compare to the Rivz 128ZX. Apparently its lacking some of the original 128's flaws, not that it performs well regardless.
This was my first "GPU" ever, in my first ever PC. The board I had was IIRC a Packard Bell rebranded GA6WMM7. It didn't even have an AGP port, I was stuck with the i810 for a few years during high school. It could run the first CS, and I remember playing the first Soldier of Fortune on it, but almost completely without textures. Beat that game, too, but to this day I have no idea if it had good visuals or not :D
I had an i740 AGP back in the day it was so very very bad at everything.
Really ? Mine was quite awesome. 8 meg and a fan on the heatsink was added to cool it.
wouldn't the technical first *integreated* GPU be the GMA gfx on the i3 530?
Can it run Crysis?
It can start Unreal.
Budget-Builds Official close enough.
AN dead meme?
It might run at 60 frames per hour.
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial start but not run lul
iGPU or bust
That was a great vid Hamish. Though for the minute I'd suggest cutting your internet connection and hiding in a hut on Rackwick.
The i740 was created to be the reference design for AGP Texturing(the usefulness of AGP Texuring was only ever really shown to be in synthetic benchmarks, as games tried to avoid texture thrashing and extremely poor performance on older cards like voodoo2's that could otherwise perform really well).The 16 bit color looked bad but if it had 32bit it would have been way too slow
These IGPUs have 16 or 24 bit color but not 32bit one of the most interesting things about them.
Intel 810 *_E_*
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*Others*: look at my gtx19888 200gb ram 235599 hz new processor
*me , an evolved gamer* : intel 810
235.599 kHz is terribly slow, though... the CPU is probably the bottleneck there, but I’m not sure.
@@GRBtutorials A factory reject 286 is perfect for this system!
@@GRBtutorialsThat thing will take forever to boot dos.
Ah, Bowserstone Market. Such a great track.
Damn, that thumbnail is quality
Blitzy it's fire
I have tested some time ago this iGPU (but the 810-DC100 one) in a Compaq Deskpro EN C500 with a 500mhz Celeron Mendocino the pirated version of Half-Life Opposing Force . It only ran in D3D mode at very low (but playeable) FPS.
Fact: The first 810 ones can't run a PIII , it haves a incompatibility with SSE Instructions . This was fixed in Rev.A2 of the chipset , That Compaq PC had the older revision
5yr olds: can it run fortnite I do fortnite I am a grown-up
10yr olds: LOL ITS SOOOOO BAD
I bought a laptop for 1000€ and it barely rung fortnite in all low settings 600p with an averege of 40fps and in build battles it goes bellow 30. It has and intel core i7 7th gen, 16 gigabytes of ddr4 ram, intel hd graphics and amd radeon R7 445
TechnoGamer try disabling intel HD graphics
Your GPU is probably switched of to save power
Intel GPU is not for games, it's design to run mario
They were bad in the time but not sooooooo bad.
Summoner Arthur actually better than SiS 530 and SiS 620 igpus
A bit like nowdays
Señor Dossier [Retro reviews, Coleccionismo & más]
Sis was crap but whats the difference when the drivers were crap anywyas?
I couldnt run most of my games on mine (i915). They would crash, or have missing textures or glitches moat of the times.
And even low end card from ati or nvidia would do laps on it.
@@SeñorDossierOficial remember the SiS 6326 ? Savage 4 8mb. Awesome cheap cards.
@@scottrich976 the sis 530/620 were based on the 6326
Back in the 90s, integrated graphics were a bloody god send when I was building computer labs for my high school.
Great video as always!! - always very interesting to see the history of everything you review
I remember having had something similar to this or maybe even the same chip, with a 1Ghz coppermine celeron. playing standard skulltag deathmatch (Doom2) was a disaster with plasmagun spam it would slow to a crawl. GTA2 and rayman 2 ran fine tho albeit on lower resolutions. and my mobo had no AGP slot so no addon cards. dark times. and the worst part? i had it till 2010.
No PCI slots?
@@nathanhamman418 Probably dedicated onboard AGP video that can't be disabled. Those were the worst as you couldn't even add in an additional video card even if there was a PCI slot.
Now put this igpu in a fight with my 845G chipset igpu! >:)
Also you should try getting the best PCI gpu possible cause It would be really cool to see how much the PCI slot would limit the card. :)
+Lothaire Cliquennois I will!
i810/815 vs 845G?
Both support DX6 in hardware and got support for Vertex Shader 3.0 in software. The 845 got double the pipes and can benefit from DDR-266 memory.
So yes, there is actually something slower than old Intel integrated graphics. To name it, even worse Intel integrated graphics :D
On the other hand 845G theoretically offers support all the way up to very, very fast Northwood chips with HT....
I want to bring my rtx 3050 back to 2000's
or go in the future and buy the shittiest and cheapest new GPU and go back to present
The futuristic RTX ultra low-profile consuming 30W running RTX ultra settings in all games flawlessly
The i752 was basically an improved i740, which was from back in the days when you were upgrading from like...a S3 Virge DX. The i740 was literally the very first AGP gpu ever on the market. The PCI cards were actually pretty good and had great image quality, just not terribly fast. We had a few successful UT2003 lan parties on some i810 graphics systems...on like 640x480 ultra low settings back in the day. 😂
This miserable piece of silicon has been rehashed by intel so many times, it's more of a wonder trying to figure out when the company ever bothered to release anything new. This single adapter engendered literal decades of misery for pc gaming and developers alike, and are exactly why even in 2023, "intel video" is still a cursed thing to say or discuss when it comes to gaming graphics. It took literal driver voodoo to even get this turd to run the _Aero_ graphics system of Vista, much less any newer Operating System. And the intel of now really wants to die on the hill of requiring resizable bar to fix the fact that Arc graphics _lose 99% of their advertised performance_ on a system where that feature isn't enabled, or won't enable, like in the case of my present pc with a z390 motherboard.
I remember when I got Q3A and I didn't have a good enough graphics card to play it. It refused to even boot on our Voodoo 2 (I think). It demanded at least Voodoo 3 and that was a really expensive card. Or that's what my brother told me at least...
Great video bud loves videos about old comps like this i think its because i have so many of them lol!
Build them up, make them useful.
I had to stick with that gpu for a few months back in the day... It wasn't all that terrible, I could play Quake3 and watch divx. DirectX5+ games wouldn't even load xD
I mean, the fact it actually ran the games that where launched from around the same year as the GPU already makes it way better than the newer Intel iGPU, smh
But i think back then compared to other GPUs it's not as bad as intel iGPU is today in comparison with modern GPU.
Still, Intel is taking revenge with hd graphics! They made it bad so that you would suffer! A lot!
I’m sure it’ll do perfectly, providing you just stick to OpenTTD and UFO: Enemy Unknown 😂
I am assembling a retro pc i got the motherboard, 866mhz p3 processor , 512 mb ram , psu for 3 $ at a local market its working . But my question is should i buy a ati rage xl , will it give me more gaming preformence on 90's games.
6:03 Wooow This pentium 3 with a 1999 onboard intel is way better than my 2010 atom with gma3150?
Lol it couldnt run simcity 4 even at 800x600 it would lag really hard, and it had a 1.6ghz singlecore atom, 2gb ddr3 800mhz and the intel gma.
Eduardo Avila heh... My asus eee pc 4g has gma 910 and 900MHz atom... And 4gb storage... And 2gb ddr2 ram!! (Cuz I can)... I put windows 7 on it just for lulz)) Actually that works! Tiny7 uses only 3gb of storage so it usable... But not for gaming, even at 2d it struggles... As audio player it's ok))
Wisker My hp mini 110 3735dx had the official support for only w7 starter, but i got xp working and it was better than 7.
But a real crap. It looses for amost any 90's machine even at youtube playback.
Now i discovered that those 90's games i couldnt run or barelly open, a pentium 3 with a 1999 onboard vga performs better.
Its sad, but i had to use it as my main pc for 5 years.
These atoms sucks. They have a worse performance than some pentium 3 laptops from the late 90's or early 2000's, and probably a power consuption not so small.
I know they arent meant for gaming, but even for daily tasks a old laptop outperforms them.
Eduardo Avila my eee pc doesn't officially support win7 at all. I have to do serious digging to find all drivers cuz most of them on official site won't install on windows 7. Cuz Asus made them in custom packages and on win 7 it says "The PC doesn't meet minimum system requirements "...
5 years ago I can somehow use this netbook. It was acceptable for simulink task as well as word. So that was my travel netbook for studying while in train. It has windows xp home basic and even internet browsing was acceptable except playing video on youtube, it lags even in 144p. And it has only 512mb of ram back then. But thing has change right now it is unusable even with 2 gb of ram. Basic task like word is ok. But internet nowadays too hard for this small thing. And battery is totally dead so it can't work even 10 minutes. I don't know why this thing exist! It was made in 2008 and it was first netbook ever. I got this for free in 2012... Personally I'd never buy such abomination))
Wisker Yeah, mine lagged alot in word 2010 (bundled with it). When on xp it was acceptable.
Mine fryied after i tried to replace the atom n455, with the atom d525 dualcore.
Now incredibly, without processor, and after 8 years the battery still works fine and it still turns 'kinda' on. Without the processor it doesnt give any video nor load the bios, but the usbs turn on and the fans also.
So i removed the screen (with the structure of it and the bezels), the hdd, the ram, the fan, the heatsink and made it a powerbank with 3usbs. And i didnt had to do a single solder, just reuse the older board that refused to die completly, with its chassis and case.
i had this piece of shit with celeron 433 8Gb HDD in march 2000,
9:43 Is this GLQuake? Cause if it isn't, you're using a software renderer, which runs on CPU instead of GPU.
Still runs better than my pc.
how???? what the hell do you have...a laptop variant of this???
Dosent sound like you have a pc then topkek
do you have the first personal computer or what?
r/ woossssh
I told you you should get 64mb of ram!
Brilliant as per usual. Worth the wait.
This card was good back in the day compared to competitors prices. I really enjoyed my i740 pci card back in the day. Nice video brings back good memories. Thanks.
It's a i7 so it must be GOOD!
Who else thinks that in 2050 every laptop for 200 dollas will have an i9 an a rtx 2080ti
What is that "double size" AMR slot?
Man, this brings back memories of my old p3 and volari v3 "gaming" PC. Hint: it kinda sucked. I still have the v3 though, so yeah
Can it bring back my wife please Sharon I just want to see the kids again
please video about intel pentium 3 gaming and vhy you dont try minecraft?
Cyrix were first with an iGPU I think in 1997. The Cyrix Media GX has integrated video and audio processing in the CPU package itself. I didn't even know about it at the time.
yeah, I have the Intel 845 "Extreme" chip in a few older computers, I absolutely hate not being able to get an AGP card, the boards didn't even come with AGP slots, just 3 PCI ones. Its extremely annoying trying to find a decent card for an ok price.
the extreme 2 was barely better than a radeon 7000 based igp so even a fx5200 will make a nice upgrade.
Remember having a friend with such a board.
The fastest cards for PCI will be a Geforce GT 430 or GT 520/610, Zotac built some bit they are rare and expensive today.
Then there are some GT 9400, 8400 GS and HD 5450 for PCI, and of course the dreadful FX 5200.
Except for the later all of them. Even PCIe 1x will be way faster on them and they're beat by cards sometimes 5 years older.
This are good examples about those:
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I am pretty worse than that. My board has a shitty trident 3d blade, and donr have any agp. At least in your case you can run something without the pci card.
But anyways, do you know a good pci card for retro gaming ?
There are PCI variants of TNT2 M64, MX400, all the way up to GeForce GT610/710.
Miguel Que The problem is that i cant seem to find these in my country for sale, only the pciex versions or the agp ones.
Is there a very popular one that has a decent performance?
I wanted two of these pci:
One of the win98/2k/xp era for 98 and xp retrograming
And a much newer one for pushing a old athlon xp system to its maximum limit, maxing out the processor to a 2.8ghz athlon, 2gb of ddr1 ram 400mhz, and the best vga i could get, but the system dont have a agp slot, only pci.
Yeah, i have 2 motherboards that dont have agp and i will do some projects with them.
Umm actually I've only ever had 1 laptop and It has AMD chip, sooo I've never had Intel, my laptop gets a whole 99 on cinebench💪🏼I'm not joking😭
Intel Pentium III 733Mhz + gtx 1080 ti.
Can you imagine bottleneck black hole?
Yos
I started with I think a core 2 duo running vista with 4gb of ram back in 2008. I ran that thing and it must’ve gotten hot and degraded the igpu cause I had artifacting so bad textures in some games would just turn black