Hey man sweet rig. I have a 1751 f86 with the hdr 40 and just changed props to the big blade for hunting season. I have the raptor 3 blade and with just me in the boat it runs 31-32 mph at about 4200-4300 rpms. Now with that being said my boat is shorter than yours and probably a little lighter. Play around with weight in the boat, trim and rpm range and see what you get. Buddy of mine has one just like that with a boss drive that has had a bunch of motor work done on it and he said (I don't know for a fact) that he can run 34-35 mph. So good luck and again awesome rig.
My 35 mudbuddy lev 3 on my 18x54 gator trax (actual measurement is 20’x 54”) it’s a .190 thick hull and I’m getting 30 with two man hunt load. Running stock hammer prop.
I have a prodigy 1848 . A GTR xd with a delta level 3 build. A merc 3 blade worked i can get about 35 with just me in the boat. I have a stock hammer prop and I run 29. But it's more durable and better hole shots than the 3 blade. But a lot more vibration. For deep water I'll take the 3 blade all day long. Both props spinning 4700-4800 rpms
I have a 2013 Sport V 5500 on a 1851 F86 and get about the same speeds running a big blade as are getting in this video. I am no expert but I don't think that your speeds are all that low. The greatest benefit to the extra HP your motor has is pushing a big load during hunting season. Nice rig!
One thing I’ve learned since running a mud boat if your trying to chase speeds people are posting online it’s a waist of time half the ppl online lie about what there’s boat actually runs just cause they hit 33 one time going down river with the wind at there back and there app taps 33 for a split second they tell you there boat runs that lol
Try a Boat Doctor 2 blade that is a Big Blade but the size of a Hammer. My friend has a 1854 Prodigy w/ 4400efi HDR. Made quite a difference, and he was a loyal Hammer man. $369 includes shipping.
Delta level 3 and a hammer prop with Voodoo muffler. That is what I run on a heavy ass excel 1854 F86. I push 33 mph solo. Biggest factor is maintaining speed with a hunt load and that is what the delta mods get you.
I have the 5000 mud buddy on my 1854 prodigy. I couldnt get up on plane with about 700 lbs of people and basic fishing gear . I have tge three prop that came with it . Any suggestions
For starters that 3 blade is a raptor, not a merc. A merc would run in the 30’s. You need an 11 or 12 pitch big blade on that 5000. My 4500 had an 11.5p big blade and ran 35mph
Ziggy Pockets I did not! I’ve checked my gearing it’s a 38/50 so that’s not a super low gearing. I’ve tried running it deeper in the water and of course that’s wrong.
Me personally i dont think a mud buddy 5000 makes 50hp.... You have a heavy boat. I think your speeds are right in line. With nothing in that boat... u should be able to turn 4700 rpm. If you are turning 4500 with 2 people the pitch is about right. The rev limit is 4750 if i remember right.
Over 35 mph for a boat that heavy? Won’t be able to do that stock. Play with your trim and RPM. Also surface drives are super weight sensitive. Try putting weight upfront, back, and middle. It’s crazy how much that effects speed.
Moving a couple bags of decoys around in my 1850 phowler changed my speed 2-3mph it’s crazy. These are long lines with 5lbs weights and foam filled dekes so the bags are heavy though
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@@MudBuddyMotors good word! Love y’all’s motors. I’ve realized now nothing is wrong with my motor, other people just seem to be exaggerating their speeds, so it made me think I was going slow. But that’s not the case at all.
if you were spinning 4400 you were blowing out you need to trim down motor souldnt have to spin that much stock to get speed. my gator tail was at top speed running 3750
Thanks for the information. Do you have a 50 or 40hp? I met a guy that had a gator tail 40hp, same boat as me, he said he was getting 27-28mph. So I called mud buddy to see if they thought I was getting low speeds. (28-29mph) they didn't have a straight answer for me. I've got about 15hrs on this blade now, slightly the sweet spot I'm hitting around 4360rpms, good turning and no water slap sound. Let me know what you think!
I can get 4400-4500rpms all day without blowing out. But I still have never got over 29mph. I just got a hammer prop in yesterday, gonna test that out. Also found someone to hook up a tuning computer to it to see if anything is wrong.
@@michaelallen4496 I didn't see over 30 until I put some new guys in her. Tunning, vodoo exhaust, cam, push roads and shaved heads on a 18x48 bare bones boat.
@@duckco1 its a 50hp so I should be getting in the 30’s all day. I’ll test out the new prop. If it doesn’t make me happy I’ll just build the motor to something stupid big next spring. Lol
That is a raptor 3-blade not a mercury. The mercury is a better running prop. To get 35mph plus out of that boat take it to a reputable engine builder, for instance Willey fast.
Setx Waterfowlers just by chance do you know if Jd Murphy gona be open for youth? Also the big blade runs like the mercury but butter hole shot and load carrying
Hey man sweet rig. I have a 1751 f86 with the hdr 40 and just changed props to the big blade for hunting season. I have the raptor 3 blade and with just me in the boat it runs 31-32 mph at about 4200-4300 rpms. Now with that being said my boat is shorter than yours and probably a little lighter. Play around with weight in the boat, trim and rpm range and see what you get. Buddy of mine has one just like that with a boss drive that has had a bunch of motor work done on it and he said (I don't know for a fact) that he can run 34-35 mph. So good luck and again awesome rig.
My 35 mudbuddy lev 3 on my 18x54 gator trax (actual measurement is 20’x 54”) it’s a .190 thick hull and I’m getting 30 with two man hunt load. Running stock hammer prop.
I have a prodigy 1848 . A GTR xd with a delta level 3 build. A merc 3 blade worked i can get about 35 with just me in the boat. I have a stock hammer prop and I run 29. But it's more durable and better hole shots than the 3 blade. But a lot more vibration. For deep water I'll take the 3 blade all day long. Both props spinning 4700-4800 rpms
I have a 2013 Sport V 5500 on a 1851 F86 and get about the same speeds running a big blade as are getting in this video. I am no expert but I don't think that your speeds are all that low. The greatest benefit to the extra HP your motor has is pushing a big load during hunting season. Nice rig!
You want to go fast out a 90hp outboard in it. I’d say 28-30 mph is really well with a boat that heavy.
Nice rig,you don't buy a mud boat for speed.You buy it for the shortcuts
One thing I’ve learned since running a mud boat if your trying to chase speeds people are posting online it’s a waist of time half the ppl online lie about what there’s boat actually runs just cause they hit 33 one time going down river with the wind at there back and there app taps 33 for a split second they tell you there boat runs that lol
Longer I’ve been in the mud boat world I’ve started to realize that most people lie about speeds. 😂
But now I know my boat is running perfectly fine.
My home lake!
check the gearing , you might need to change out the top or bottom gears to help with more speed
So did you figure out that you need to build a stage 2 motor combo to achieve your goal
Try a Boat Doctor 2 blade that is a Big Blade but the size of a Hammer.
My friend has a 1854 Prodigy w/ 4400efi HDR. Made quite a difference, and he was a loyal Hammer man. $369 includes shipping.
Delta level 3 and a hammer prop with Voodoo muffler. That is what I run on a heavy ass excel 1854 F86. I push 33 mph solo. Biggest factor is maintaining speed with a hunt load and that is what the delta mods get you.
Hey man I have a 50hp Mud buddy, How do i go about getting a delta mod?
@@iZodPvP delta performance is who you will want to to call.
I have the 5000 mud buddy on my 1854 prodigy. I couldnt get up on plane with about 700 lbs of people and basic fishing gear . I have tge three prop that came with it . Any suggestions
I get 30.4 out of my mudbuddy 40 havoc 1756 MSTC with the 3 blade fully loaded boat with two on board
For starters that 3 blade is a raptor, not a merc. A merc would run in the 30’s. You need an 11 or 12 pitch big blade on that 5000. My 4500 had an 11.5p big blade and ran 35mph
I’m just curious what the background music is?? Artist?
I've found that the three blade likes to be trimmed higher than the big 2 blade
To get the max rpm*
More hp with more pitch for faster speeds.
Mercury 3 blade is actually a mile or 2 faster than the raptor. Since ur turning the big blade at 4400 I’d go with a hammer 2 blade
Not a gearing issue it’s a not enough motor issue heavy boat need to get the motor built will easily do 35 with a merc 3 with 11.5 pitch
I recognize those backwaters!
Hey man I have the same setup. Did you figure anything out yet?
Ziggy Pockets I did not! I’ve checked my gearing it’s a 38/50 so that’s not a super low gearing.
I’ve tried running it deeper in the water and of course that’s wrong.
Me personally i dont think a mud buddy 5000 makes 50hp.... You have a heavy boat. I think your speeds are right in line. With nothing in that boat... u should be able to turn 4700 rpm. If you are turning 4500 with 2 people the pitch is about right. The rev limit is 4750 if i remember right.
Damn! Mind if I drool on it?
more pitch should give you more speed
The torque setting is 3 ugga duggas
Over 35 mph for a boat that heavy? Won’t be able to do that stock. Play with your trim and RPM. Also surface drives are super weight sensitive. Try putting weight upfront, back, and middle. It’s crazy how much that effects speed.
Moving a couple bags of decoys around in my 1850 phowler changed my speed 2-3mph it’s crazy. These are long lines with 5lbs weights and foam filled dekes so the bags are heavy though
What’s the cost for that boat ?
30,000
I really was thinking about buying one of these over a gator tail until I saw online things that were written by past employees.
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I was talking about prodigy boats not mud buddy. Should have clarified that on my post.
@@MudBuddyMotors good word! Love y’all’s motors. I’ve realized now nothing is wrong with my motor, other people just seem to be exaggerating their speeds, so it made me think I was going slow. But that’s not the case at all.
@@michaelallen4496 correct 85% of the googans on here lie they ass off about they top speeds! Only believe what u see not what you hear
Dude look up Roost Marine and or The Roost Prop !!! You'll thank me later!!!
if you were spinning 4400 you were blowing out you need to trim down
motor souldnt have to spin that much stock to get speed. my gator tail was at top speed running 3750
Thanks for the information. Do you have a 50 or 40hp? I met a guy that had a gator tail 40hp, same boat as me, he said he was getting 27-28mph. So I called mud buddy to see if they thought I was getting low speeds. (28-29mph) they didn't have a straight answer for me.
I've got about 15hrs on this blade now, slightly
the sweet spot I'm hitting around 4360rpms, good turning and no water slap sound.
Let me know what you think!
Running at 3800 rpm? Dude trim up my 37 ran at 4100 rpm stock.
I can get 4400-4500rpms all day without blowing out. But I still have never got over 29mph. I just got a hammer prop in yesterday, gonna test that out. Also found someone to hook up a tuning computer to it to see if anything is wrong.
@@michaelallen4496 I didn't see over 30 until I put some new guys in her. Tunning, vodoo exhaust, cam, push roads and shaved heads on a 18x48 bare bones boat.
@@duckco1 its a 50hp so I should be getting in the 30’s all day. I’ll test out the new prop. If it doesn’t make me happy I’ll just build the motor to something stupid big next spring. Lol
@@michaelallen4496 after my mods I'm dino at 53. My boat is way lighter. It's going to take about 4k to 5k to see over 35 mph
@@michaelallen4496 I've done a lot of prop testing as well. They'll be very small gains if any
That is a raptor 3-blade not a mercury. The mercury is a better running prop. To get 35mph plus out of that boat take it to a reputable engine builder, for instance Willey fast.
Setx Waterfowlers you’re right. I figured out I was being stupid about two weeks ago.. almost deleted the video 😂
The mercury is a fast prop. I have heard it doesn’t like loads.
Setx Waterfowlers I’ve normally got 3-4 people in the boat so I ended up ordering the mercury hammer 11p prop. Maybe that’ll be my new favorite
Michael Allen the hammer prop is where it’s at for loads. I only lose about 2 -3mph from empty to 1100 lb load
Setx Waterfowlers just by chance do you know if Jd Murphy gona be open for youth? Also the big blade runs like the mercury but butter hole shot and load carrying
I Coulda got 4 rigs for the price of what you got that luxury vessel 🤣🤣