STAR TREK GENERATIONS (1994) | FIRST TIME WATCHING | MOVIE REACTION
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your line "take power from the photons and beam it to the stabilizers" might be the most Star Trek thing I've ever heard a reactor say. Perfect.
100%. I don't care what some comments say, she's a Trekkie now
Makes a lot more sense than most lines in the JJ films
I thought so too. And the technobabble makes as much sense as stuff they say on the show, so kudos!
i lost it when she siad that🤣🤣
And she end up saving the ship when Data was frozen overwhelmed by emotion.
"This is a very sad episode so far."
Cassie forgetting she's watching a movie.
"Guys? Restore power, take power from the Photons and beam it to the stabilisers. Use the Nacelle port."
Not sure i've ever loved Cassie more despite it all being wrong, but at least she tried! lol
She's truly one of us now.
She's been assimilated!
Eh, to be fair, Generations does kind of feel like just a long TNG episode for the most part.
She’s learned resistance is futile.
@@tehdesp They wrote "All Good Things" and "Generations" at the same time, Rick Berman and crew, and it kind of shows. Like a writer on TOR once said, "They never even give the ship a 'hero shot' to establish it, so it really does feel like they treated it like another episode rather than a movie."
I owe this movie a lot. I was someone who was constantly putting my job ahead of my well being both physically and mentally. That was easy to do while I was single because I didn’t have anyone who it truly felt like needed me around. Then my fiancee came into my life and I realized as much as I admired James Kirk, I didn’t want to have that same feeling of loneliness he does. He loves the mission but still feels an emptiness because he knows he can only be Captain Kirk for so long, and never bothered to make sure Jim Kirk has a life waiting for him off the bridge. Patrick and Bill play off each other so well I just wish we had gotten more of them together. However as all trek fans know, all good things must come to an end
Fantastic take
It took me longer than it should have to figure out who the heck Bill was. 🤦♂ I would probably have been equally confused if you'd said Patch and William!
I love how, when Kirk showed up, Kirk slapped Soren around like he owed him money.
It makes sense in that Kirk was always shown to be the more physical "hero" of the two (of Kirk and Picard) When I saw this in the movies back in the day, my Mom (who doesn't like sci-fi, and always makes comments) said how laughable it is that Shatner in a corset and wig is so strong
@@SJHFoto I don't know.
Shatner is now in his 90s and he's still in great shape.
@@actioncom2748 I'm not saying I agree with her. Besides, my Mom has a way of taking you out of the movie. I love her, but it is true. Fun fact, my parents are Shatner's age
@@SJHFoto May your Parents also share Shatner's good health.
I think he achieved it because he was a vegetarian most of his life.
@@actioncom2748 No, genetics. Also not smoking or drinking plays a MUCH bigger part. Also avoiding fast food and fried foods, etc. Meat does not kill you, it is how you cook it and what you have WITH it.
There will always be an echo of Kirk in the ribbon. He will live forever in there.
Funny thing, the part where Data was singing the "Lifeform song" was NOT in the script for the movie. Thay was adlib by Brent Spiner and the director loved it so much it was left in. So the reactions of everyone on the bridge while Data was singing was a completely authentic reaction by all of the actors that were there.
It was in the script. It's just the actual song he sang was improvised.
@@Eidlones that's what I meant to say.
Nice!! One of very few things I liked about this movie.
@@KITT10K I doubt it. Everything about your post implies that him singing at all was the improv.
"the director loved it so much it was left in."
Implies he wasn't supposed to sing, but it was too good to cut.
"The director loved his intentionally improvised song so much he left it in, cause the script called for it." doesn't really work, does it?
"So the reactions of everyone on the bridge while Data was singing was a completely authentic reaction by all of the actors that were there."
So you mean that they were so shocked at the tune he decided to sing, they all broke character and potentially ruined the scene, despite the script saying that he was supposed to sing? That doesn't really work either.
Just admit that you heard it was improvised somewhere, and your brain filled in that it was the entire thing that was improvised in order to have a fun story you could post in comments.
@@Eidlones I bet you're fun at parties.
"Don't let them do anything that takes you off the bridge of that ship because while you're there, you can make a difference."
Which is why Kirk wasn't so bothered when he was demoted from Admiral to Captain the first time, it meant he got his ship back.
Incredible quote
@@krashd even back to Wrath of Khan when McCoy tells him at his birthday drinks- get back your command while you still can. And Spock also tells him it was a mistake to accept promotion.
"When will they learn? SEATBELTS!"
This is why we love you Cassie
In all fairness they really shouldn't be getting thrown around so much as inertial dampeners are the reason they don't wear or need seatbelts, a sci-fi show where inexplicably exploding consoles don't send stuntmen cartwheeling through the air would be quite refreshing to watch.
Two movies from this one. And at the end of the movie.
I remember in Nemesis that they made that upgrade (seatbelts)
@@krashdI’ve always assumed the contractor that makes the inertial dampeners is staffed with first year Academy cadets. They always seem to have, um, ‘issues’.
They FINALLY install seat belts on the Enterprise.... at the end of the last TNG movie lol. And no that's not a spoiler because it's not canon because the scene was deleted! LOL
I like how they show Kirk and Picard are different but also the same. Kirk's paradise was the life he let slip away; Picard's paradise was a life he never had, but neither man could live in a world that wasn't real.
I saw this in a theater, and when Soran fought Picard and knocked him down then launched his probe destroying the Veridian star, someone I the audience yelled "If it was Kirk, he would have kicked his ass!"
😂😂😂😂
Wasn’t wrong.
Yes
if it was the sisko he'd have beat kirk picard and soren 1v3
@@williamrosmer8381 BS. Young Kirk would whoop Sisko.
And here I had forgotten Malcolm McDowell was a Star Trek alumnus. One of those actors that has been in so many things across so many decades.
his nephew is the doctor on ds9
"Him" is Tim Russ. He's had a few bit parts in TNG, is a bridge officer on Voyager, in the background of Star Trek 6 behind Sulu, and is also in Spaceballs ("we ain't found shit!")
Did I also notice Jenette Goldstein (Vasquez in Aliens) on the Enterprise-B bridge?
more recently he was also the principal on the nickelodeon show icarley
@@shuboy05 She was a reporter, right?
@@RoadWarrior77 She's the communications officer.
"Is a bridge officer on Voyager" is kind of underselling it. He was one of the _main characters_ on the show. There are plenty of unnamed bridge officers, he was senior staff.
Can't wait for first contact!
I wanna see how she reacts to the “you’re blended alright” line lol
She would need to watch Star Trek DS9 before first contact to explain Worf comming in on the Defiant.
@@WorkingMan-m4t i can understand why you would think that, but it’s a small thing that really doesn’t affect the plot of first contact
@@syn420951 I love DS9 and I would like to see her watch it. That being said First Contact is peak star trek and waiting an entire show for that would make me restless.
...and: *In a Mirror, Darkly* in which *Star Trek: Enterprise* revisits *First Contact* in the Mirror Universe.
Back in 1994, it was such a big deal seeing TNG characters in DS9 uniforms. We loved it. I still love it now.
You mean those horribly ill-fitting costumes because they didn't have the budget to make actual uniforms for the movie. and even then only half the cast has them at all? Riker is wearing Sisko's uniform, which is why it looks so awful.
Chronologically, this film takes place one year after the events of the TNG finale "All Good Things..." (in 2371), late during DS9's third season, and shortly before the first episode of _Star Trek: Voyager_ occurs ("Caretaker").
Is that the same season Worf joined the cast?
Worf joined in Season 1.
🤣😂
@@sean---the-other-one Season 4 ("The Way of the Warrior").
I looked it up the other day, you’re pretty close! All within a year for sure.
All good things was like 47988, generations was 486…, I think voyager ep 1 was 483 stardate right? DS9 season 5 I’m guessing was 490…
@@nisus8
Season 1 Encounter At Farpoint
😂🤣😂
The opening takes place in 2293, while the rest of the film takes place in 2371.
The 2 Klingon women are Lursa & Betor of the Duras sisters, shown in a couple of the Next generation episodes.
The other Klingon that yells before they get blown away is also from a episode where riker goes on a Klingon ship like a student exchange program
@shanedaley6236 Same actor, Not sure it's the same character..
I think they are beautiful. Full of energy and likes it rough. 🥰😁
@@shanedaley6236 Brian Thompson is the actor he's been in a bunch of Star Trek episoded, both TNG and DS9.
@@cvonbarron Brian Thompson used to be in everything. My family mostly calls him the Schwarzamorpher because we first saw him on X-Files, but he also had two major roles on Buffy. (among others)
You can say that when they destroyed that bridge set, which was built in 1986, the 80s died in a Trek way in this movie.
Nice! Never saw it that way.
this was also passing the torch from TOS to TNG too, even though the show had been on 7 years, alot would see the movie with out seeing the show.
The scene wìth Picard reuniting with Renée in the Nexus. 😢
It has made me cry, ever since I first saw it as a child with my father.
It's just so unimaginably happy, miraculous; and mixed the knowledge that it cannot last...
Joy and sorrow, streaming down my face, every time. 😭
We finally get to see Captain Kirk and Captain Picard together! 😃
James T. Kirk always thought he'd die on the bridge, instead he died under a bridge
My uncle told my father a joke when I was 4 or 5 years old, How do you make holy water. The answer was boil the hell out of it. I did not get the joke, but my father laughed robustly. I was in high school and for some reason I thought about that joke and I started laughing, I felt like Data getting the emotion chip!
Thank you so much for this reaction. Seeing how much the Star Trek journey meant to you, took me back to the anticipation of seeing this film in the theaters. I was in middle school, awkward and didn’t know anyone else that liked Star Trek. This was like seeing my closest friends all back together again. The film wasn’t perfect but I was thoroughly entertained and for a little while, I could be carried away from the bullying and loneliness. Now I’m 40 years old and the themes of the film have a deeper and richer meaning now, more than ever. This reaction currently has over 11,600 views! Trek is a journey for us all and an example of a future we could build together. Thank you for adding to its rich legacy and from the bottom of my heart, may you live long, and prosper 🖖
This was the first Star Trek movie I watched in a theater so Generations has a special place in my heart. I still remember seeing the first teaser trailer and my head figuratively exploded when they showed Kirk and Picard talking.
Love Kirk telling Picard to not let anyone take him off the bridge of the Enterprise.
The writers of this film (Ronald D. Moore and Brannon Braga) also wrote the Next Generation series finale "All Good Things." During the commentary track for Generations that they recorded for the Blu-Ray release, they both admit that in hindsight, "All Good Things" is actually a far superior story and would've been a better movie than this one.
This was, indeed, the final frontier for Captain James T. Kirk and the original crew of the USS Enterprise 1701-A.
Their legacy would live on through the eyes of another crew, to boldly go, where no man has gone... before.
Where NO ONE* has gone before. 😁 🖖
@@Paul_WallerI think in their day, it was men only
@@alphadog9211 No it wasn't, which is why it was weird that they said it that way in the first place. However, you are right that the saying was "Where no man has gone before" during the TOS era.
If you want to see an alterative universe where Kirk survived this, read the Shatnerverse books written by the man himself (it's actually not bad)
Not the final frontier for Spock, who still has one more adventure awaiting him.
When the saucer section crashed on the planet, the effects were amazing in the theater, and everyone around clapped and cheered!
The destruction of the enterprise... Yay....woo.... 🤔
Whereas, when I saw it in the cinema and that awful dummy representing Kirk bounced down the mountainside people laughed. It looked ridiculous.
I saw this film in the theater. It was the first time a movie that made me cry. Watching Kirk die the second time really got me.
I just got emotional too, but thinking thinking about the state of the world and wondering why we can't just all get along
The 70 years between the Enterprise B launch and the start of TNG is referred to by fans as "the lost era" because we don't really know what happened between those two events.
Fun fact, the villain in this movie was married to Clara from Back To The Future III. He usually plays villains and psychos, but he's evidently a pretty nice guy.
The familiar looking crewman on the Enterprise B is Tim Russ, he's Tuvok on Voyager, he's also been in TNG and DS9, he was in Die Hard 4, he's "we ain't found SHIT!" in Spaceballs, and he was the principal on iCarly.
The science officer on the B looks familiar, she's the mom in Terminatorr 2 (the one with the blade hand) and Vasquez from Aliens.
The black uniforms they keep wearing in this movie were borrowed from Deep Space Nine, they didn't have the budget to make their own (this movie was shockingly inexpensive). You notice that Riker's sleeves are really short, because he's so tall. That's why they're rolled up so awkwardly.
I just noticed Data's Sherlock Holmes pipe on display in his quarters. Nice touch. Worf's medals on his sash are different (he has a seat now, as well!) ... and the Enterprise B is christened with a bottle of Chateau Picard champagne.
They made this movie a week after wrapping the show.
As for why Picard couldn't go stop the fire? Well, one he didn't know where and when it exactly happened, but also he can only make one trip. He'd be back on Earth and too far away to help the Enterprise. They also couldn't bring phasers from the Nexus because they wouldn't be real. You can only take out what you bring in.
I thought Ted Danson married Clara-I'm sure I'm right about that because they were in Gulliver's Travels and married afterwards. As far as I know, they are still married
@@SJHFoto They did, but she was married to Malcolm before that and they have two children together.
@SJHFoto You're both right, except for the timing of Gulliver's Travels. "Clara" (May Steenburgen) was married to Malcom McDowel from 1980 to 1990 (when she was roughly 27-37 years old) and then married Ted Danson in 1995 (when she was around 42). Gulliver's Travels was released in 1996. (Mary and Malcom share a son and daughter, and then Ted has two daughters of a similar age from his previous marriage.)
I don't know how on earth I always missed the wonderful Jenette Goldstein when watching this movie. Sure, it was so small it couldn't even really be called a cameo or bit-part I suppose. Shes in a soon to be released documentary about Aliens (the movie), along with all of the still-living cast and crew leads.
@@bigdream_dreambig Such a shame that people don't marry once and stay married. Actors especially for the most part don't understand the "'till death do us part" vow
I'm glad people are still watching anything STNG.
The Klingon Duras sisters were already seen several times in TNG by this point. Women couldn’t serve in the Klingon council according to the two part episode Redemption. So, they endorsed a young Klingon, of the house of Duras I recall, in order to work behind the scenes.
After losing the resulting Civil War, they basically become renegades and pirates
The Enterprise-B part of the movie with Kirk, Scotty, and Chekov is set a couple of years after Star Trek VI.
The TNG part of the movie is set a year after “All Good Things”.
This film takes place in the same year as "All Good Things". When Data was laughing on the observatory and he brought up the Farpoint joke, Geordi said that was 7 years ago. If it were a year after AGT, he would have said 8 years.
@@RoadWarrior77 you’re right, I went back a referenced the stardate that Picard says in his log and it would put this about halfway through what would’ve been season eight or six months after “All Good Things”.
@@ronhubbardjr2624 And to add to that, I have never seen how they calculate star dates. I don't think it was ever explained in Star Trek lore.
@@RoadWarrior77 stardates dont really have much real meaning besides they count up, the 4 at the start represent the 24 century, but the next number represents the tng season, then a number between 0 and 999 for the day, then fractions of a day, so 42588, is a 2nd season stardate.
@@joeeyaura There is a slight problem with that, though. While it may have worked for TNG, DS9 and Voyager end up 5****, but they weren't in the 25th century yet. It is still chronological, as in 50000 would be 10 years after TNG started, but based in reality it doesn't make sense.
Hope she likes it. I really can't believe she has watched so much Star Trek. What a journey.
Can't believe she has watched so LITTLE *Star Trek.*
Lets just hope she watches, DS9 and Voyager. I think she would like Voyager but DS9 would take a few seasons for her to warm up to.
@@jowbloe3673 exactly.
and I hope she doesn't like the movies. They're all bad. They turn start trek into dumb actions movies.
This is the least worst but still isnt good.
A rocket launched from a planet and hits the systems star in a couple seconds shows how dumbed down the movie is.
I have a cherished memory of this movie: Sharing it for the first time with someone I was in love with, watching her react to the champagne bottle crashing on the hull. Getting to witness that was one hell of a gem in this life.
It’s been so awesome to watch Star Trek along here. Generations is so underrated as well
Agreed
There is a scene where Picard and Riker are going through Picard's ready room. He tosses aside a priceless archeological artifact he got from his old teacher in favor had given him in favor of his photo album.
I think this can be explained. I think after the events in TNG season 6, episode 10 The Chase, Picard replicated the artifact, then donated the original to a museum.
This would be perfectly in Picard's character, so what he was throwing aside was a worthless replicating items. An object he must still have the pattern, so he can replicate it again later.
So happy Cassie is enjoying Star Trek! It was my favorite show as a kid with Captain Kirk and even more with Captain Picard.
Oh my god, yes. Finally, someone is reacting to this movie.
Coming off the high of All Good Things... I would give this movie a 8/10.
But I know a lot of people find a lot of fault with this movie, and I hadn't considered its faults until I saw those opinions.
But that doesn't take away from how I enjoyed my first experience watching this movie in the theater.
The Gallifrey Gals (Paula Deming and Kat Alysha) have a great full-length watch-along for Generations that they posted on TH-cam a few months back, and should have the edited version with clips soon.
It was a fun film to see in the theater for sure. But, if I remember, the bad guy tried to launch a rocket into the sun which, even at the time, really bugged me because it would take 10 or 20 YEARS to get there. It was obviously just a setup to get Kirk and the bad guy on the scenic pile of boulders. And then there's metal bridge up there! Why? So they can get to the top of the pile of rocks? It could not just launch from flat ground? Now they have to set up the rocket AND a bridge? The TV show always seems much smarter.
Didn't he give the rocket warp technology? It's been a while since I saw a generation so I'm not sure@@-taz-
@@-taz-rocket was faster than light so it didn't need but a few minutes
I saw it myself. I was disappointed they blew up the Enterprise but Star Trek doesn't die. And we've seen it.
My wife and I just got done rewatching Star Trek Generations...in prep for your reaction. This should be a LOT of fun.
After this film, Michael Dorn returned to TV, playing Worf on Deep Space 9. He appears in the other TNG films, so they had to find ways for Worf to rejoin his former crew. So, when he shows up in First Contact, they hadn't seen him in a while.
This isn't really a spoiler, but that appearance made sense. The next movie after that, I laughed when he begins to explain his appearance, and is cut off (as if the writers just said "Aww, leave it to the fans' imaginations!"
I guess if you don't watch DS9, you would just think Worf is the captain of the defiant.
I wonder if she saw the poster with Shatner on it before she got to see the movie itself. I hope not, but it might be hard to avoid. Thankfully there are a few other OG members that showed up too, lol.
She did.
@@jkhoover Slight bummer but yeah, since I think that was the most popular one, it's almost impossible not to have that spoiled (I know of one other that just has the Enterprise-D on it, but I've only seen it a few times).
What video were you watching? She literally said she saw the poster before starting the reaction and showed an image of it.
When Picard tell Troi about HOW his brother and neophew dies, it adds weight to what Soren said to him in 10-Forward. Remember?? He says "They say time is the fire in which we burn." Soren may not have known about Picard's circumstances but being an Elorian, he got a "sixth sense" of knowing exactly what to say to get Picard's attention. Just another odd ability from a species that appear to be empathic, but aren't quite there.
I saw it in the theater.... the first Trek movie I saw in the theater. I actually enjoyed it and love it
Neat! Old me saw them all in the theatre except the Motion Picture. I was going to say I was too young to see it, but I did see The Black Hole in the movies (and they came out the same year)
I was 10 years old and went with my friend and his dad. It was so cool to see Picard and Kirk together. I still hate they killed Kirk though.
The special effects and audio are particularly good. A really immersive experience. I'm nuts about the Stellar Cartography scene. I can't get enough of those graphics! And the Enterprise D has NEVER looked as good as it does in this film. Not before or since, ever!
@@bradman1984 I read this over and over, and still don't understand what "my fries" means. Can you explain? (*I'm from Canada originally-is that an American term?)
@@SJHFoto 😄 I just don’t know how to type. I’ve updated it. It is supposed to be friend.
It’s so refreshing to see a big reaction channel watching classic Star Trek. Feel like too many just opt to skip it and watch the reboot trilogy or for some reason aren’t willing to give the franchise a chance (probably because it’s quite niche and won’t generate a lot of views). In my opinion it’s one of the most magic franchises of all time.
Yeah its probably the best show ever created
Niche? We are not talking about real niche shows like Babylon 5 or Space 1999. Or real obscure sci fi shows like Lexx, or Starhunter, which even many Sci Fi nerds havent even heard about. Its Star Trek! Together with Star Wars the 2 biggest Sci Fi Franchises ever.
Ok, it aint the MCU, i'll admit that, but that does not make it niche. Thats like saying Alien is niche, because it wasnt as popular as Harry Potter.
@@paulanerruhrpott6188 True, but I remember when Star Trek was niche. Before TNG... before the movies even, Star Trek enthusiasts were considered quite odd in the mainstream.
@@syntaxusdogmata3333 propably because they were the first who did conventions which found many people strange. But now thats everywhere with many genres and franchises. Like cosplayers. Its not like in the 70s were mostly trekkies wore costumes but for example now all the japanese Manga Fans, or other comic franchises, so thats not niche anymore
@@paulanerruhrpott6188 I didn't say it was niche now. I said it was niche back then.
I went to a Star Trek Convention when this movie was in theatres and the hotel I was staying in had bought the rights to air it on their televisions for their guests. I knew this ahead of time, so I brought my VCR (lol) so I could get a copy of it while it was still at the theatres.
Oh wow, awesome
Cool. Back then films took about a year to get onto home video and it was always exciting seeing some kind of bootleg of anything that had only just come out in theatres. It was an exciting time. This "instant information" world we live in has lost a lot of mystery and excitement.
I was devastated when the Enterprise D was destroyed. That ship is iconic and almost felt like a member of the crew after 7 seasons.
Almost like the original BiG E
Kirk's ship.
For decades I have said that the Enterprise D is my favourite ship. It is a thing of beauty. But then I started doing experiments to see how big it really is based on my local area. And it is absolutely HUGE. It's the size of a city. The windows on the model are deceptive and make it look much smaller. In my opinion, the ship is just too big and needs to be (I am serious) 20% of its actual size, then it would feel like a nice ship you can live in and enjoy. If you work out how huge the saucer is based on your own local neighborhood, you'll agree.
Dat's life forms song was completely improvised. the surprise on everyones face is genuine.
Brent Spiner has so much fun with Data
I was lucky enough to watch this in the theaters back in the day. There are a lot of problems with Generations, but seeing Kirk and Picard on the same screen was mind-blowing. 13:26 "They say time is the fire in which we burn." I dislike this movie, but this is one of my all-time favorite lines in the entire franchise. Not only is it a great literary quote, but it foreshadows the reveal of what happened to Picard's family. Soran used his El-Aurian abilities to sense what was wrong Picard, and uses the quote to try manipulating him. Picard's reaction shows how successful it was. 33:47 In real life, Shatner is an accomplished horseback rider and breeder. Those horses are actually his, and he rented them to the studio. He also taught Patrick Stewart how to ride. That moment around 34:16 when Shatner makes the horse walk sideways is purely him showing off his skills. The cabin has a Klingon bat'leth on the wall, as a reference to what happened in the other movies. The climactic scene on the cliffs of Veridian III were filmed at Valley of Fire State Park, just outside of Las Vegas. I went there during a road trip a few years ago. Good times.
Happy 30Th Anniversary Of Star Trek VII: Generations
Wow-that makes me feel old. I was the one who stood in line to get 51 tickets to see this opening night (50 of my friends and I went to see it-it was AWESOME!)
And Kirk is still with us!
@@SJHFoto Honestly, when I watch this, even now, I can STILL smell the popcorn. I'm not kidding. This movie has such amazing, immersive audio, it totally takes me straight back to the cinema. I LOVE good audio 🙂
@@Scripture-Man I know what you mean, but for me it is the immersive experience of being with all my friends. Most are married now, so an epic "we flood the theatre" doesn't happen anymore (that, and we all moved away) I think this, First Contact, Phantom Menace, Jurassic Park III, Toy Story, and maybe a couple others are a completely different era. This was when I was in my 20s, so unlike the movies I saw with my friends as a kid, we had more freedom (We could all buy opening night tickets, and make an evening of it. I remember we all went out to eat at an all-night diner afterwards, and then went bowling until like 4am!) *My back can't take that anymore*
@@SJHFoto The 90s were sweet times. Oh to go back. All that great Trek on TV. Hollywood is a joke now compared to how good things were back then.
18:51 These chicks are the Duras sister Lursa and B'Etor. You recognize them from the two-parter "Redemption"
Perfect timing for this one. Just binged your reactions to the other ST films yesterday. Between that and TNG, you got me into star trek. So thank you.
Welcome aboard ❤
So I have wondered ever since this movie came out about Soren's little Phaser. It LOOKS like a piece of Equipment you might find attached to a Borg drone's arm. I was always fond of the idea that at some point after fleeing the borg, Soren was able to obtain a drone and took that small piece of tech from it and modified it to work for him.
Or it could be that it is really El-Aurian tech and that the Borg just later adapted it for their own use seeing as the El-Aurians were a pretty advanced race who gave the Borg a proper fight and who were not assimilated in their entirety when they lost their worlds to a younger version of the Borg. Proving that resistance is not futile.
@@krashd That's a bit of a stretch because quite a few species have fought the Borg and are still alive. Some even thriving. That's still a very small number compared to the entire collective, but still I don't bel;ieve that to be the case. Here's why: the elaurians were dispersed into near extinction. They don't have any kind of colony since the Borg devastated their world. Soren admits that he'd never hurt a fly before the Borg, so why wouod he just be carrying a phaser?? Also to add to that if he had it when they beamed him onto the Enterprise B, why not use it THEN?? Soren wasn't relocated to a habitable planet with the re4st of his species, thiose two ships were pretty much THE ENTIRE Elaurian species left after the Borg. You assume that they established a colony somewhere and continued their advanced culture but they didn't. They're so rare that to find on is like finding a unicorn.
I love this movie! It was the first Star Trek film I saw in the cinema.
Me too! A bunch of friends from school went.
Mine too!
Mine as well. I remember being able to clearly see Scotty, Chekov and the captain on that shot of the damaged Enterrise-B on the big screen and the grief on their faces. Something at home viewings never really did justice to.
it was my Second, at the ripe age of like 7 I saw ST6 in theaters.
And yet you're still not subbed to her
It's not really explained in the film, but Starfleet has rules against altering the timeline. So he probably only went back as short a time as possible to minimize changes to the timeline. It is sad he couldn't save his family, though.
I know I read somewhere that Spock and McCoy WERE supposed to be in the film, in the opening scene instead of Chekov and Scotty, but Nimoy and Kelly didn't want to come back just for a cameo.
That's correct. It's why Scotty and Chekov's dialogue sounds like they were written for Spock and McCoy. Especially Chekov needing to serve as a medic.
But it doesn't matter how far you go back in time, you change everything that comes after in the future no matter how far back you go.
If he saved his family he could have also contacted the enterprise the day they are all on the holodeck and been able to apprehend Soren immediately.
Instead they went with the dumbed down action movie ending.
Picard, one of the gentlest captains in Trek, grabbing Kirk, who fist fights in at least 1/3 of his episodes, to beat up Soran for him is a great meta-joke to me.
especially because if you look at their academy days, picard is the jock and kirk is the nerd.
My stepmother and I went to see this film in theaters shortly after my father died. When it was over, she told me Kirk's "Oh my" was the expression my father had on his face when she came home and found him. Not pain, not fear -- just a simple statement acknowledging the next frontier. I take comfort in it every time I watch the movie.
"Do we know these women?"
That's what you get for not watching the entire series.
"Fire at will."
We have been. He's on the Enterprise.
P.S. Always wondered why Picard didn't go back to when Soren was rescued and stop him way sooner.
Also, Kirk's experience disproves Soren's whole plot. Kirk demonstrates how you can just fly a ship into the ribbon.... I still like the movie quite a lot but that hole always bothered me.
As to your P.S., Picard has a duty to uphold Starfleet's Temporal Prime Directive. By coming back as close to when he left as possible it minimizes potential impact to the timeline. Going back and saving his family would be a direct violation and he would have time cops wanting him to fill out a bunch of paperwork.
Also, did anyone else notice that Picard and Kirk CANNOT LOSE? Either they stop Soren destroying the sun, or they fail and get to go back into the Nexus and try again. Another detail is that Soren could also choose to leave the Nexus and go back a little earlier to stop Picard and Kirk - two can play at that game!
4:37 - Pay Attention: Over "Cameron's" right shoulder(left of the screen) is an actor that plays many different parts in Star Trek and eventually lands a feature character.
I remember seeing this in the theater and the whole theater was jammed packed!
I cant help but tear up anytime I watch these movies, so much of my childhood and teenage years involved these movies. All of the Next Generation movies will have you immersed
Malcolm McDowell (Dr Soran) stars in one of the most disturbing movies ever made called A Clockwork Orange. Stanley Kubrick's first movie after 2001 and it is just as challenging to view.
McDowell also plays a hilariously over the top villain in Tank Girl
A Clockwork Orange isn't anywhere near as disturbing as Caligula, though they're very different.
He is also the Uncle of Alexander Siddig (Dr Julian Bashir, Deep Space Nine)
And he was Caligula. If you think 300 had some messed up creatures you need to check out Ass-Stomach man.
Also, Admiral Tolwynn for the Wing Commander (game) fans.
I’ve always found “it won’t be installed til Tuesday” to be a hilarious line.
They need a Riker-centric series where he lives forever
I get a chuckle every time I hear Commander Riker say he planned to live forever, as just prior to the release of ST: Generations, he provided the voice of David Xanatos on Disney's 'Gargoyles', a rich entrepreneur who was obsessed with finding the secret of immortality during the run of that show.
Fun Fact, Data's "Oh Sh*t" is the first time and was the ONLY TIME until Post 2009 Reboot Star Trek that there was a Curse Word in the franchise.
Yeah, not good.
Janeway said “Damn” a lot.
@@SchneeflockeMonsoon not a curse word in terms of the censors.
@@SchneeflockeMonsoon look up 7 words you aren't allowed to say on TV.
Picard did say _merde_ (French word for sh*t) a couple times in the series: S1Ep5 'The Last Outpost', and S2Ep3 'Elementary, Dear Data'. Didn't mean much in the U S of A, but in ol' Paree, and Quebec, eyebrows were raised.... :)
"I'm trying to figure out where in the timeline this is."
"Yes, it's in the timeline."
I saw this in the movies with 50 of my friends! No joke, we saw it opening night, and a quarter of the theatre were friends of mine! It was AWESOME! It never occurred to me that Picard could go back and stop his brother and nephew from dying, but that makes a lot of sense. The Nexus IS NOT A DRUG! You kept saying that thru the movie. One complaint people say about this movie is that it isn't epic enough-that it feels like an episode of the show. I don't see that, but when we heard Picard grieve to Deanna, you said that this was a sad episode, so I guess subliminally you feel that way too. Thanks for the viewing! It's nice to see the reaction of a first time viewer. I can't wait for fellow Canadian Jen Murray to reach this point too!
To me Generations and Insurrection both feel like extended episodes of the show, or TV movies, it's only First Contact and Nemesis that really feel like big blockbuster movies. If Generations or Insurrection are on TV I might watch but if First Contact or Nemesis are then it's a definite watch.
@@krashd I liked all of the first 3-it was Nemesis that I'm not really a fan of
I watched it alone opening night, but I still have great memories of walking out of the theater with that post-movie buzz, and I kept bumping into or seeing people I knew, and we were enthusiastically cheering and so pumped to see tng on the bug screen. The movie may have some minor flaws, but I love how it was photographed and it does have some great scenes. It feels like with a little tweaking, it could have been really great.
Ya the calling to prevent the fire is impossible if 99.999 % of everything else is "Not Real"!! How can everything be not real except what's good for the movie? 🍿🎥
@@allengray5748 I don't know what you mean
Shatner said in his book Nimoy was offered the director's chair, but on ST3 and 4 he was involved in the creative process, and here he'd be shooting the script as written, so he declined, and after that he realized he didn't have much to do in the actual script so he turned that down too. So David Carson, director of Yesterday's Enterprise, got the chair this time around. Next time is the theatrical directorial debut of one of the most prolific sci-fi directors in television.
Explains why ST 3 and 4 look and feel like they were directed by a hippy with all of the dialogue about saving the planet and recycling, I don't mind when green movies have green messages but I hate when a director hijacks a project to push his or her own views on people.
@@krashd Seeing as there are a metric ton of other 'green' messages in Star Trek proper, most of which were not directed by Nimoy... try again. I'm also extremely confused about what the green message of "Three Men and a Baby" was if he was the sole reason for there being an environmental message in 4 and ... actually, I don't know what the 'save the planet' message was in 3. Mildly perplexed at that.
Can't wait for her to see Star Trek First Contact which is the best TNG movie of them all. Wait till she sees Picard's Ahab speech in that movie.
I think she'll be far more excited about Riker and Troi hanging out together, and the possibility of romance in subsequent films. She'll also be sad that Crusher and Picard still haven't hooked up.
Don’t know if you ever noticed this but the number 47 pops up a lot in Star Trek Next Generation, in Generations, Scotty says he beamed up 47 people from the Lakul. And when they’re at Veridian 3, Data says the ribbon will arrive in 47 minutes.
Probably just a coincidence or easier to write
@@joshr8666 according to wiki The number 47 is considered the "quintessential random number" of the universe at Pomona College, where Star Trek writer and producer Joe Menosky graduated. Menosky began including the number in his scripts for Star Trek: The Next Generation, and the joke spread to other Star Trek shows, including Voyager and Deep Space Nine.
I know it probably won't happen, but Cassie should at least watch the pilot episode of Deep Space Nine.
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She shouldn't, the show is utter shite compared to TNG and Voyager. It's Star Trek with no actual trekking, just seven years stuck on an uninteresting space station where every third episode is some farcical ferengi get-rich quick scheme or nonsense about Bajoran prophets. It should be called Star Static: Deep Space Nine.
@@krashd im pretty sure your literally 1 of five trekkies who dont like that show lol, look at most trek sites and forums fb etc and they usually put ds9 at the top, mostly due to the characters. also the show takes place all over the place watch more than just the 1st episode lol
@@lopan122 I agree that DS9 is good - excellent in later seasons. However, I think it's quite a man's show. Lots of wars and conflicts. I don't know how much Cassie would like it. There's really very little romance and I don't think there's too much that would really appeal to women. (I'm sure many women love it, just I don't think Cassie would.)
Cassie try to think of it as the ribbon is a doorway to another dimension where everything is bliss.. absolute contentment and peace .
"Do we know these women" - that pretty much sums up the problem of only watching a handful of episodes across 7 seasons.
True, but the sisters of Duras, were in some of the selected episodes, it's just PIB didn't remember them..
@@Markus117d I had forgotten that Redemption was included in the reviews. Plus if I recall their other appearances were in DS9 episodes.
It also sums up the problem with this movie.
@@tonygreenfield7820 I would just like to point out that I also completely forgot about the Duras sisters when I first saw Generations. I had to catch a rerun of Redemption on the old SpikeTV marathons to realize they had appeared before. The annoying thing is I did remember a couple details of the sisters that I'm sure every teenage boy remembers....
Knowing them is not critical to the experience of this movie. It was (ostensibly) designed for non-TNG fans to enjoy.
Shatner has said that he played Kirk's last line, "Oh my..." as him seeing the ultimate adventure, the true final frontier in death.
I love this movie - I think it has aged very well. It's gorgeous (and was especially on the big screen) with an absolutely bangin' soundtrack.
It's just really great to have heroes on the big screen who can show us how to deal with life, how to grow and never stop learning, and how to uplift others.
I wondered if this was Kirk's dream about his own death. He stated to Bones and Spock that he knows that he will be alone when he dies. This is from Star Trek 5 The final frontier. The first act where he was climbing El Captain.
He also said the hardest line for him to ever deliver was:
"Who am I to argue with the Captain of the Enterprise?"
Which I can understand. It's effectively him relinquishing a role which had so defined him for so long.
And I think when he said he'll die alone, technically not true, as Picard was there, I think he more thought as alone that neither Bones or Spock would be there, the closest people he has to family.
Don't forget to watch the CGI generated fan film for the film's post credit scene with Spock looking at Kirk's grave and Starfleet recovering the Saucer section of the Enterprise-D. Also don't forget to read the ShatnerVerse novel StarTrek: The Return. Kirk got resurrected by the Borg and Romulans.
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shatnerverse is amazingly over the top and i love it
@@williamrosmer8381 Too bad the Lower Decks might not include it in their episodes as one of the Alternate Reality that TDI had investigated and actually happened but got retconned since Kirk travelled back in time again and changed something.
One of the best scenes was actually in the stellar cartography. Because Data was so occupied with emotional stress he forgot to delete the Amargosa sun out of the computer calculation. Picard realized it by asking where the sun "was" and it was still displayed. Then Picard didn't say to Data: Hey, you forgot to delete the sun out of the calculation. He asked data if the computer forget to calculate it right. And Data did the correction and withdoing that they instantly saw the movement of the ribbon on the display. A key moment to realize Zoran was manipulating the course of the ribbon.
Usually the captain is on the bridge.... but sometimes the bridge is on the captian.
DS9 ❤
oh? Having watched DS9 several times through I'm surprised I don't recognize that.. or is that some kind of joke in reference to the bridge always falling apart?
@@joshr8666 the bridge fell on kirk. Literally the bridge was on the captain.
@@joeshaver1104 I got it. I thought it was funny
I can’t imagine leaving a place I was living all my happiest life experiences. That sounds like paradise, real or not.
Sounds like heaven
Start of the movie: captain on the bridge
End of movie: bridge on the captain
I loved everything about this movie except Kirk's death.
As one of my favorite characters, and one of the most famous characters in Starfleet history, it should have been a more dramatic heroic ending.
There’s a book called “The Return” written by Shatner. Vanity project or not, it was a very good book. It made me very happy regarding Kirk.
Would you prefer him to die as they are ramming their ship into Kahn's ship yelling "Khaaaaaaaaan" 😂
@@joshr8666 No, but something more dignified for a hero of Starfleet.
Not dieing on some nothing planet crushed under a metal bridge.
Fun facts: the son (Charles) of the actor who plays Soran (Malcolm McDowell) is married to Lily Collins (Emily in Paris). Charles’ mother is Mary Steenburgen, who played Doc’s love interest in Back to the Future III.
This movie gets a bad rap. I love it personally. Such an emotional journey
Patrick Stewart delivers even more brilliantly than usual. His scene with Troi where he opens up about the tragedy with Rene and Robert always makes me cry
Picard goes to literal heaven, an eternity in his own personal paradise
"Nah, I've gotta be the hero"
That dropped teddy bear gets me every time
Oh please
We were indeed all over the timeline with this one.
Because TNG was syndicated globally and you saw episodes "when your local TV station feels like it" we didn't see "All Good Things" in Australia till at least June 1996, so seeing this in the cinema in 1994 was an exercise in perspective.
I don't know if you plan to watch Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. But if you only watch one episode, I think you'd love the one titled "Trials and Tribble-ations". It was done to celebrate Trek's 30th anniversary in 2006 and it's really extraordinary. While there would certainly be a disadvantage with not knowing the DS9 characters, there's enough you would be familiar with to ensure you'd have a great time.
She might be able to do some single episodes
@@joshr8666 While there are episodes that seemingly stand alone, the show is so character driven that they might not have the same impact without the background. While "The Visitor" is a standout episode, does it have the same impact without the time spent with Benjamin and Jake in the previous episodes? Can you enjoy "Children of Time" without knowing Kira and Odo's previous relationship? ,"Take Me Out to the Holodeck" is a light-hearted episode that gives you a chance to get to know the characters without the usual drama. But it does take place in the middle of the Dominion War arc. I think you can still enjoy "Trials and Tribble-ations" without seeing previous DS9 since so much is still familiar to even the casual Trek watcher.
The person who you recognize at 5:50 is Tim Russ. He appeared in the 6th season episode Starship Mine on TNG, played a Klingon in a 2nd season episode of DS9 and of course he plays Tuvok on Star Trek Voyager. Since Tuvok is a main character that’s probably where you recognize him from.
I remember I was able to see a Sneak Preview of the movie 3 days before it came out. Cant believe that was 29 years ago..
My brother and I watched this movie in the 90's. When Kirk died my brother started sobbing.
Can't wait till you review my favorite ST movie: First Contact.
Not sure where generations ends up in the list for TNG films but first contact is also my first favorite out of the four
She has not seen Star Trek DS9 to understand Worf and the Defiant...
One of the Klingons was the same actor that Riker interacted with when he served on a Klingon ship in that exchange program. Episode "A Matter of Honor"
Yup
The actor was also in the horrible Mortal Kombat 2 movie.
Cassie, I recommend Blade, Daredevil (Ben Affleck) & Fantastic Four (Chris Evans) with your sister Carly before you too watch Deadpool & Wolverine. It's super important.
Watch Blade❤
“There’s only ever gonna be one Blade.”
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And Loki Season 1.
@@Dr.JHamilton is suck 😞
In an interview, William Shatner said that when he was filming kirks death scene, a plane was flying high overhead and he could imagine it to be the Enterprise. That's why he said "oh my!"
Been looking forward to this for some time.
TNG 💙
4:37 the officer in the background, that's Tuvok from Voyager. Tim Russ who played Tuvok was an extra in this movie and in Star Trek 6 as a crewman on the Excelsior, so this was later retconned as being Tuvok during the very early days of his career. Those who remember Spaceballs, might also remember him as the "WE AIN'T FOUND SH@T!!!" guy.
Just one aspect of this movie I freaking hated so much......when the Enterprise visited a devastated planet with what appeared only two survivors, the actual only survivor was a "Dowd", a Q like creature that could create, destroy etc. He recreated his house and his wife, even though she died by an attack of an alien race. Anyway, long story short, when the Enterprise came, they wanted to take them with them, since they were the only survivors on the planet. The 'alien' did not wanted it, and so he created a 'warship', one that was 5 times the mass of the Enterprise. At a given moment Riker ordered to fire ALL weapons, and we see the Enterprise pumping out a barrage of at least 8 photon torpedo's and several phasers blasts to the warship (since the warship was a fake it had no effect). ^^siggh, then in this movie, why not give the same command to fire at the Bird of Prey, shields down or not, the Enterprise is not that easily destroyed, but just one volley of photon torpedo's and a phaser strike and the old Bird of Prey would have been a goner. When this happened I wanted starting eating the ceiling and feed the cat to the mice...... 🤐
Shatner said in an interview about a line he came up with for his last words which they decided not to use but will always stick with me... "Bridge, on the Captain"
I forgot how much they changed the look of the bridge of the Enterprise for the movie. Only to turn the the lights down so low you can barely tell.
"It's not just about the destination, it's about the journey."
"Maybe it's not the destination that matters. Maybe it's the journey. And if that journey takes a little longer so we can do something we all care about, then I can't think of any people I'd rather be with, than this crew. To the journey!" - Ensign Kim, Star Trek Voyager
My favorite Star Trek film.
Very well executed. The mystery, the meeting of Kirk and Picard. The iconic line by Whoopi Goldbergs character "You are In The Nexus" is great in its delivery. The best film of the Picard Era in my opinion. I think you and Carly should watch and react to "Bicentennial Man" together. Its a great 1999 drama starring the late Robin Williams. It is a very nice film with a beautiful score by the late and great James Horner. From the director of Mrs. Doubtfire and Harry Potters 1 and 2, Chris Columbus. It is a great film with alot of heart. I thoroughly enjoy your reviews Cassie. Glad you are doing this film.