well they need to show that they're working, not just working on kickback schemes and have dinners at exclusive 5-star restaurants with Gavin and Pelosi
*SF politicians* I live in S.F. and am indifferent to all laws and take no responsibility for any of the local politicians actions as I did`nt vote for any of them. It`s just an exercise of Jew morality and authoritarianism by the pathetic Peskin who feels that being in the highlight of this law is gonna make him a big man.
true San Fran Big wigs worried about batteries that can't ever be really enforced ,because there's no battery task force to go around inspecting E bikes . what the city should be mostly worried about are all the E bike jackings that take place theft for E bikes is on the rise but there's not much of a task force to crack down on bike thefts .let alone cars
Try enforcing the laws that truly affect citizens of SF in the day to day. Lithium ion fires are small potatoes compared to the issues caused by catch and release policies currently in place for criminals. Theft and drug use is poisoning the city... Start there, please!
So you are concerned about the batteries in E-bikes, but not worried about converting all autos to EV's? Are you aware of how hard those fires are to put out? It can take 100k gallons of water or more to extinguish an EV battery fire, spreading toxic chemicals into the environment and washing them down to the bay. Did you know that 80% of your electricity is produced by burning hydrocarbon fuels like oil and gas? So what is the environmental benefit of driving an EV? This is just one of many issues that CA is chasing off of a cliff.
80% hydrocarbon fuels for CA electricity, huh? The number isn't 0 but whatever it is it still reduces local pollution to near 0, including noise pollution. And it lowers the drivers' own stress levels. And does have anywhere from 25% to 50% lifetime emissions reduction all things considered. All transportation devices are still dirty to some extent, yes. We could do a lot better to get people living closer to where they work, and doing less leisure driving and travel by building cities out better, preferably with less room for cars so we can all walk around and not want to move to suburbs and be commuters in the first place.
You just don't realise that EVs have a bigger/stronger/better battery management system compared to e-bikes/esk8/EUC/etc... SF is doing the right thing to enforce the UL certification and some other rules that are logical for people safety.
Overloading: Plugging too many high-power devices into a single power strip can exceed its capacity (usually 15 amps), leading to overheating, short circuits, or electrical fires. Poor Quality: Low-quality or counterfeit power strips may not have adequate safety features or proper insulation, increasing the risk of electrical failures and fires. Continuous Use: Power strips are not designed for continuous or long-term use. Using them as permanent solutions for multiple devices can wear them out, leading to malfunction or fire hazards. Inadequate Circuit Protection: Some power strips lack adequate surge protection, putting connected devices at risk during power surges or spikes. Damaged Cords: Power strips with frayed or damaged cords can cause short circuits, shocks, or fires. Moisture Exposure: Using power strips in areas with high moisture, such as bathrooms or kitchens, increases the risk of electrical shock and fire. Wrong Placement: Placing power strips under carpets, behind furniture, or in confined spaces can prevent proper ventilation, leading to overheating and potential fire risks. Daisy-Chaining: Connecting multiple power strips together (daisy-chaining) can easily lead to overloading and increased fire risk. Lack of Maintenance: Failure to regularly inspect power strips for wear and tear can result in unnoticed damage and increased risk of electrical hazards.
@@RaymondHng "Daisy-Chaining: Connecting multiple power strips together (daisy-chaining) can easily lead to overloading and increased fire risk." Why doesn't the circuit breaker in the panel prevent this?
@@unclegeorge7845 Circuit breakers are designed to monitor the total current flow in a circuit and trip when the current exceeds the breaker's rated capacity. They do not detect the specific configuration of devices plugged into the circuit, such as multiple power strips connected in series. When power strips are daisy-chained, the load is distributed across multiple outlets, which may not immediately exceed the circuit breaker's threshold even though it poses a safety risk. Each power strip in the chain can potentially draw current up to its rating, which can cumulatively exceed safe limits without tripping the breaker. Daisy-chaining power strips can lead to localized overheating, especially at connection points. The circuit breaker monitors the overall current in the circuit but does not detect these localized hot spots, which can occur even if the total current is within safe limits. Circuit breakers protect the wiring within walls and prevent electrical fires by cutting off power during overloads or short circuits. They do not provide specific protection for power strips or devices plugged into them. Overloaded power strips or poor-quality connections in daisy-chained configurations can lead to overheating and fire risks independent of the overall circuit load. Circuit breakers cannot control or influence user behavior. They cannot prevent users from plugging power strips into each other. Users might daisy-chain power strips without realizing the potential risks or because they need more outlets than are safely available. For these reasons, while circuit breakers play a critical role in overall electrical safety, they cannot prevent all unsafe practices, such as the daisy-chaining of power strips. To enhance safety, it's important to follow best practices, such as using power strips correctly, avoiding daisy-chaining, and not overloading individual power strips or circuits.
So I'm in trouble for charging my batteries incorrectly but over permanent political class continue to let in millions of illegal immigrants while sending all my tax dollars to Ukraine and Israel to fight wars that I'm not ever sure are just or necessary? Ok.
What about your cell phone? That catches fire which is happened. What about laptops that catch fire? What about your PlayStation? What about the whole world? This is ridiculous
Guns randonly don't kill people when they're just sitting there in a room by themselves. Lithium ion batteries are an inanimate object that actually does kill people on it's own. If a firearm is sitting inside an EV that is sitting inside your garage, the EV is the threat you should be concerned about.
It's not just ebikes!" All the evs have this issue as well; regardless of the batteries maker." They don't charge well in cold weather and if they get wet they short out and create a toxic fire, that's very hard to put out. It's ridiculous to say these are environmentally better, cheaper, and last longer then gas powered vehicles or motor cycles. On top of the fact that our dated electrical grid is incapable of supporting these. I'm absolutely for exploring all options when it comes to energy but as American citizens It's our right to chose the cheapest feasible option. I don't need some out of touch politicians, deciding for me what I can drive, cook on or mow my lawn with, This is still a free country...
If it’s about informing the public then inform the public with an information campaign. People buy cheaper devices because they can’t afford the more expensive ones. Making a law against it doesn’t change this fact and won’t change behavior. Laws aren’t magic 🙄
I happened to be telling my kid about the importance of the UL certification for electrical equipment yesterday. Most people these days are not aware this. Also, fewer items these days are UL-certified.
3:50 - Building code already requires 1 outlet on any wall that is plus 30" in length. Typically spaced 6ft apart. If people take this seriously, this will trigger massive tenant improvements for power which is probably overloading the breaker as it has been specified. But just watch for the rule to say it will probably trigger new breaker panels. This can get UGLY really fast.
We had a fire in our building nonUL scooter fire during Thanksgiving. Second in 6 months on our block. I despise these things. The ebikes are blatantly being misrode intentionally in the Mission.
1:20 - wrong. They're using these vehicles bc its cheaper and faster. Not one of these people, including myself, are using them to save the planet. Its just what is available and it gets the job done.
In today's digital world it's unlikely you will be able to have a separate line for every lithium device that plugs in. it's not realistic. like saying all residential vehicles must be inside a garage and not on the street. UL certification should be adjusted to make sure the battery packs have temperature failsafe protections built in and not have to rely on outlets or power strips in the first place. most home devices have smart protection modes built in if the unit detects a short or increase in temperature it shuts down. that would involve updating the design specs of the battery packs. can't expect everyplace the person goes there will be a dedicated line to plug in. unless you buy off the black market the majority of electronic devices sold will be insured by UL
The rule about having a separate 120V AC outlet for each e-bike charging doesn't really make a lot of sense. A typical 120V AC outlet can safely put out power at a rate of up to 1,800 watts (15 amps @ 120V AC). A typical e-bike charger (power brick) pulls at a rate of between 120 - 260 watts (1 - 2.2 amps @ 120V AC). Basically you could safely have 6 e-bike chargers running off of a single 15A @ 120V AC outlet. It's also kind of funny that they are targeting the poor bike shops; they are the ones selling higher quality e-bikes with safer Lithium Ion cells and chargers. It's the cheaper e-bikes that people buy online that are much more likely to be using cheap low-end Lithium Ion cells and charging bricks. 🙄🙄
What scooter is allow to be able to have with out license I am disabled and use a trike mobility scooter and I was given a ticket by San Pablo police for going on the bike lane and having no license I been using the scooter for 3 years and now I am not able to get out on my scooter because officer Galtin behavior says that he will even issue a ticket to a wheelchair.
"The number of fires associated with Li-Ion batteries has increased every year since..." Someone doesn't know how numbers work. You should try to get your money back from your alma mater, going all the way back to kindergarden.
Clearly, this reporter didn’t do a research or doesn’t know what she’s talking about because in one year, it actually decreased by one and she said it increased every year, which technically is true
What about a safety standard for residences and businesses that get robbed daily? We need a new board of supervisors this fall.
Adopt a Pit Bull, problem solved in ONE HOUR
Too many robbers getting injured so we definitely need safety standards
@@michaelwells7348so the criminal can sue you for personal injury?😅
Are you that Criminal who is worried @@braindamage248
@@michaelwells7348 So you can get robbed and sued?
They care about 3 fires from batteries. But not 83 fires caused by homeless. Cas you know safety and totally not control.
Rump 4 prison in 2024....
Only when the tweaker uses a plastic straw with his oversized soft drink while improperly charging his stolen Lime scooter will they care
This video talks about hundreds of fires caused by lithium batteries.
At least those can be put out easily ...
Your numbers are way off
Whenever I hear San Francisco board of supervisors, I get my popcorn.
PALMBEACHDOG: That's "Bored Of Stupidvisors.... Get it right, man !!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I put a hand on my wallet
Thank God S.F. is addressing battery charging..everything else must be running like a charm.
I was thinking the same thing lol.
well they need to show that they're working, not just working on kickback schemes and have dinners at exclusive 5-star restaurants with Gavin and Pelosi
Fallacy of relative privation. You realize more than one thing can be addressed at a time right.........
Don`t talk about what you know nothing about -- it just makes ya look stupid,
@@stevengold Not when they're not good at anything. And that's not a fallacy
SF passing laws that no way they could possible enforced. Classic SF
*SF politicians* I live in S.F. and am indifferent to all laws and take no responsibility for any of the local politicians actions as I did`nt vote for any of them.
It`s just an exercise of Jew morality and authoritarianism by the pathetic Peskin who feels that being in the highlight of this law is gonna make him a big man.
You tryna meet in person and repeat that to my face or nah i live in sf TRY ME@@emilioaymat5651
it is all about selective enforcement
Crazy how people who don't live in sf have so much to say about sf
true San Fran Big wigs worried about batteries that can't ever be really enforced ,because there's no battery task force to go around inspecting E bikes .
what the city should be mostly worried about are all the E bike jackings that take place theft for E bikes is on the rise but there's not much of a task force to crack down on bike thefts .let alone cars
Try enforcing the laws that truly affect citizens of SF in the day to day.
Lithium ion fires are small potatoes compared to the issues caused by catch and release policies currently in place for criminals. Theft and drug use is poisoning the city... Start there, please!
So we should ignore "small potatoes" issues?
@@stevengold damn straight over larger 🥔s.
SF tackling the big problems! What a joke…
Developing laws for ebikes but not policies to affect crime or helping give police the resources or policies they need to keep order?
Can’t afford a high end bicycle or scooter with a reliable battery but I’m sure that buying a Tesla in a few years won’t be a problem at all.
So you are concerned about the batteries in E-bikes, but not worried about converting all autos to EV's? Are you aware of how hard those fires are to put out? It can take 100k gallons of water or more to extinguish an EV battery fire, spreading toxic chemicals into the environment and washing them down to the bay. Did you know that 80% of your electricity is produced by burning hydrocarbon fuels like oil and gas? So what is the environmental benefit of driving an EV? This is just one of many issues that CA is chasing off of a cliff.
Logic just doesn’t exist in SF
80% hydrocarbon fuels for CA electricity, huh?
The number isn't 0 but whatever it is it still reduces local pollution to near 0, including noise pollution. And it lowers the drivers' own stress levels. And does have anywhere from 25% to 50% lifetime emissions reduction all things considered.
All transportation devices are still dirty to some extent, yes. We could do a lot better to get people living closer to where they work, and doing less leisure driving and travel by building cities out better, preferably with less room for cars so we can all walk around and not want to move to suburbs and be commuters in the first place.
You just don't realise that EVs have a bigger/stronger/better battery management system compared to e-bikes/esk8/EUC/etc... SF is doing the right thing to enforce the UL certification and some other rules that are logical for people safety.
EV battery packs are built to much higher standards than your average ebike/escooter pack.
But don’t do anything about the homeless lol
Rule 1: A thief is permitted to steal ONE E-bike- scooter twice a week. But it must be found in good condition.
2: See rule no.#1.... 😂😂😂😂😂😂
don't charge your battery overnight while you're sleeping
So who's dumber.
The people making an passing these laws.
Or is it the person voting for these people. Leave a comment.
I'd like to see the science behind banning plug strips.
Overloading: Plugging too many high-power devices into a single power strip can exceed its capacity (usually 15 amps), leading to overheating, short circuits, or electrical fires.
Poor Quality: Low-quality or counterfeit power strips may not have adequate safety features or proper insulation, increasing the risk of electrical failures and fires.
Continuous Use: Power strips are not designed for continuous or long-term use. Using them as permanent solutions for multiple devices can wear them out, leading to malfunction or fire hazards.
Inadequate Circuit Protection: Some power strips lack adequate surge protection, putting connected devices at risk during power surges or spikes.
Damaged Cords: Power strips with frayed or damaged cords can cause short circuits, shocks, or fires.
Moisture Exposure: Using power strips in areas with high moisture, such as bathrooms or kitchens, increases the risk of electrical shock and fire.
Wrong Placement: Placing power strips under carpets, behind furniture, or in confined spaces can prevent proper ventilation, leading to overheating and potential fire risks.
Daisy-Chaining: Connecting multiple power strips together (daisy-chaining) can easily lead to overloading and increased fire risk.
Lack of Maintenance: Failure to regularly inspect power strips for wear and tear can result in unnoticed damage and increased risk of electrical hazards.
@@RaymondHng "Daisy-Chaining: Connecting multiple power strips together (daisy-chaining) can easily lead to overloading and increased fire risk." Why doesn't the circuit breaker in the panel prevent this?
@@unclegeorge7845 Circuit breakers are designed to monitor the total current flow in a circuit and trip when the current exceeds the breaker's rated capacity. They do not detect the specific configuration of devices plugged into the circuit, such as multiple power strips connected in series. When power strips are daisy-chained, the load is distributed across multiple outlets, which may not immediately exceed the circuit breaker's threshold even though it poses a safety risk. Each power strip in the chain can potentially draw current up to its rating, which can cumulatively exceed safe limits without tripping the breaker. Daisy-chaining power strips can lead to localized overheating, especially at connection points. The circuit breaker monitors the overall current in the circuit but does not detect these localized hot spots, which can occur even if the total current is within safe limits. Circuit breakers protect the wiring within walls and prevent electrical fires by cutting off power during overloads or short circuits. They do not provide specific protection for power strips or devices plugged into them. Overloaded power strips or poor-quality connections in daisy-chained configurations can lead to overheating and fire risks independent of the overall circuit load. Circuit breakers cannot control or influence user behavior. They cannot prevent users from plugging power strips into each other. Users might daisy-chain power strips without realizing the potential risks or because they need more outlets than are safely available.
For these reasons, while circuit breakers play a critical role in overall electrical safety, they cannot prevent all unsafe practices, such as the daisy-chaining of power strips. To enhance safety, it's important to follow best practices, such as using power strips correctly, avoiding daisy-chaining, and not overloading individual power strips or circuits.
So I'm in trouble for charging my batteries incorrectly but over permanent political class continue to let in millions of illegal immigrants while sending all my tax dollars to Ukraine and Israel to fight wars that I'm not ever sure are just or necessary? Ok.
The San Francisco insanity train continues down the track...
Rules for a lawless society, this should work well.
What about your cell phone? That catches fire which is happened. What about laptops that catch fire? What about your PlayStation? What about the whole world? This is ridiculous
Gotta safely store my scooter but i don't have to safely store my guns.
Guns randonly don't kill people when they're just sitting there in a room by themselves. Lithium ion batteries are an inanimate object that actually does kill people on it's own. If a firearm is sitting inside an EV that is sitting inside your garage, the EV is the threat you should be concerned about.
WHAT ABOUT CHEAP SMART PHONES? They can explode too?
Wow, safety standards! Let's build a better Bay Area LOL
It's not just ebikes!" All the evs have this issue as well; regardless of the batteries maker." They don't charge well in cold weather and if they get wet they short out and create a toxic fire, that's very hard to put out. It's ridiculous to say these are environmentally better, cheaper, and last longer then gas powered vehicles or motor cycles. On top of the fact that our dated electrical grid is incapable of supporting these. I'm absolutely for exploring all options when it comes to energy but as American citizens It's our right to chose the cheapest feasible option. I don't need some out of touch politicians, deciding for me what I can drive, cook on or mow my lawn with, This is still a free country...
If it’s about informing the public then inform the public with an information campaign. People buy cheaper devices because they can’t afford the more expensive ones. Making a law against it doesn’t change this fact and won’t change behavior. Laws aren’t magic 🙄
I only charge my son’s electric scooter when I am working out in the garage and present.
I happened to be telling my kid about the importance of the UL certification for electrical equipment yesterday. Most people these days are not aware this. Also, fewer items these days are UL-certified.
increased every year? 1:46
So they want landlords making unannounced visits to tenants at night to see how they are charging their ebikes? How exactly would that work?
Fixing an urgent problem with well thought out, practical solutions.
3:50 - Building code already requires 1 outlet on any wall that is plus 30" in length. Typically spaced 6ft apart. If people take this seriously, this will trigger massive tenant improvements for power which is probably overloading the breaker as it has been specified. But just watch for the rule to say it will probably trigger new breaker panels. This can get UGLY really fast.
Ban electric and push for more gasoline powered vehicles then problem will be solved very simple fix
and helmets or respect traffic signs?
A family can have 4 ? That is alot.
I mean all of this sounds pretty reasonable!
Peskin killed another small business. He can go back to bed now.
That's my building! 2:04. 6 Locksley
We had a fire in our building nonUL scooter fire during Thanksgiving. Second in 6 months on our block. I despise these things. The ebikes are blatantly being misrode intentionally in the Mission.
2:27 - LOL - houses limited to 4 lithium powered vehicles. That's ALOT.
Ive seen a few videos of ebikes catching fire inside apartments. Scary.
1:20 - wrong. They're using these vehicles bc its cheaper and faster. Not one of these people, including myself, are using them to save the planet. Its just what is available and it gets the job done.
more concern than crimes.
Yeah and EVs are the future…
It’s all about taxing and robbing money out of your pockets. Face it
In today's digital world it's unlikely you will be able to have a separate line for every lithium device that plugs in. it's not realistic. like saying all residential vehicles must be inside a garage and not on the street. UL certification should be adjusted to make sure the battery packs have temperature failsafe protections built in and not have to rely on outlets or power strips in the first place. most home devices have smart protection modes built in if the unit detects a short or increase in temperature it shuts down. that would involve updating the design specs of the battery packs. can't expect everyplace the person goes there will be a dedicated line to plug in. unless you buy off the black market the majority of electronic devices sold will be insured by UL
This was because someone started an apartment fire by charging 10+ at once on one power strip in a closet.
Who listens to the SF government? I stopped paying taxes until they start doing their job. Two years and haven’t heard a peep from them.
The rule about having a separate 120V AC outlet for each e-bike charging doesn't really make a lot of sense. A typical 120V AC outlet can safely put out power at a rate of up to 1,800 watts (15 amps @ 120V AC). A typical e-bike charger (power brick) pulls at a rate of between 120 - 260 watts (1 - 2.2 amps @ 120V AC). Basically you could safely have 6 e-bike chargers running off of a single 15A @ 120V AC outlet.
It's also kind of funny that they are targeting the poor bike shops; they are the ones selling higher quality e-bikes with safer Lithium Ion cells and chargers. It's the cheaper e-bikes that people buy online that are much more likely to be using cheap low-end Lithium Ion cells and charging bricks. 🙄🙄
OH YEAH LEAVE THEM AT THE FRONT DOOR THAT WILL LAST LONG ...
@2:42 - Specifically said NOT at the front door.
I don't allow lithium-ion batteries of any kind inside my home. They're just too dangerous.
Good pretty good on paper no way to enforce it
What a joke! Address the real issues. Crime, poverty, hopelessness is looming over these congested city area.
And these laws will be enforced how...? Lmao what a joke
How about insurance also and worrying
now they want to tell you what you can buy.
Are they going to ban EV cars too. Basically they don't want us to travel at all. Their goal is their 15 cities minute cities
😂😂😂 the rules are a joke… good luck enforcing them…. That shop won’t change anything. 😂😂😂😂
My power comes from my own legs.
Nothing i buy anymore is ul approved not even mini fridges
Yeah the big problem is batteries - not assholes on scooters doing 30mph in bike lanes, it's the batteries
cars and car related deaths should be news, this is fluff
Anyone know the bike at 1:27 ?
Troxus Lynx Step Thru
@@lopieslopezpm Yo thanks, much appreciated !!!
Your welcome.
Do that to Tesla too see if SF FM dares
OH YEAH SF IS GOING TO BUILD A BETTER BAY AREA ...
SF supervisors are a bunch of overpaid clowns
You know what we need to regulate? We need to regulate our government, food for thought.
It was extreme rain on I 680 between Pleasanton to/from Danville between 4-5:30 pm. Drivers were driving carefully. 👏
Oh brother
Yet you have homeless encampment that are 1000x more dangerous and the city dont do jack about them.
Just get the scooters off the sidewalks please.
Good luck with that
EVERYTHING IS ABOUT TRANSITIONING IN SAN FRAN ...
There are no rules tf you mean new rules
What scooter is allow to be able to have with out license I am disabled and use a trike mobility scooter and I was given a ticket by San Pablo police for going on the bike lane and having no license I been using the scooter for 3 years and now I am not able to get out on my scooter because officer Galtin behavior says that he will even issue a ticket to a wheelchair.
"The number of fires associated with Li-Ion batteries has increased every year since..."
Someone doesn't know how numbers work. You should try to get your money back from your alma mater, going all the way back to kindergarden.
This will further punish the disabled community. Though I understand the need.
You have homeless people and drug addicts dying in the streets on a daily basis and you’re worried about battery powered bikes?
rigged
They are dangerous!!!!
The nonregulated ones. Remember the Samsung phones in 2010s? Or the exploding hover boards?😊
So are the seriously violent individuals Dumbocrats allow to walk the streets.
How many riders in your video aren't wearing helmets?
Thanks nervous Nancy.
I wouldn't touch a battery not UL or EC listed. Lithium Iron Phosphate is a must...purely Lithium Ion is a time bomb.
Clearly, this reporter didn’t do a research or doesn’t know what she’s talking about because in one year, it actually decreased by one and she said it increased every year, which technically is true
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