Ive got Esther, Zeno and Akstar, literally anyone of them will suit you just fine, the gaps in power dont matter if we dont have the content that requires the Next Top Meta unit
So Mars after getting ridiculously lucky on ticket pulls I ended up with 3 Zeno. I built him up to over 3k attack. I added him to my Raid team which is Auron, Akstar, Zeno, Esther, Esther. I do max damage every turn to the current raid boss on Elite. I really wanted to save my tickets for Aerith who will be an amazing healer but Jesus after watching your video on his tour of destruction I got a little hyped and pulled and the gods favored me and now I just need one more which I might UoC if I don't get lucky with a 4th. I am just hoping I get a 4th before Item World leaves so I can get as much HP and MP on it as possible :D I am man enough to admit when I am wrong and Mars I love Zeno as much as I Love my little Bun Buns.
Hey Mars, I want to point out that if you W Cast ROAR, it will use the right hand weapon twice in the damage calculation. Might be useful if you are using a low weapon on the off hand for a killer or element
another day, another awesome review from Mars, thank you, my guy! Got almost the same equip on my Zeno and I should say I'm very impressed:) I just love the sprite of all the new DD's and got them all 7★ - wanna try doing some char rotation, not to stick with just one:) gonna be fun:)
Dual wield gear on Zeno TDH gear on akstar and chain together that's how it's done akstar is still top tier having a unit who is a similar power level to akstar who chains perfectly with him who doesn't need buster style etc makes having the pair of them amazing
I did get zeno, but i love esther too. Right now i have him running gilgamesh katana plus hyohs stmr with protec grappler and marshal glove for atk stat. His helmet and hyohs clothes. Twisted hero katana mastery killer power of Id. Makes over 2900 atk and takes nothing from my 2856 atk esther (2x storm kickers and her stmr with scanning goggles and cloudKH stmr) haven't played with them together but i want them to be friends lol
Andy Patt He does have a BS chain so you could run a thunder element and chain with Esther so you can sorta make it work. Although it's not optimal I've been doing it since I got him to 7 just because I like them both.
@@grimsoar8818 Yeah, but I don't care about MP costs. I'm just pointing out how to more efficiently use him. There's so many ways to refresh MP now that I've never run into an issue unless a unit is a true MP hog like Golbez.
Hey, Mars. Are you gonna do a similar video for Akstar? I hard pulled them both (free to play player: basically not pulling on something from KH banner 😂) and got Akstar and Zeno both, but I'd like to know more about the other withe-air guy rotation? Thanks and keep going, love your videos
@@meetmeonmarsI agree and I don't have Sephiroth's STMR. But with other S/TMR's I was able to break 3K attack. The LB fill rate with Tidus STMR, pretty much get his LB up every other turn.
*sigh* FYI: Akstar & Zeno's LB (for those of us with 1 of each 7 star)... don't chain perfectly. I can usually get 6 chains ... 7 sometimes. . . the frames don't match. There's a reddit post about it too. Kinda silly from one perspective - but from another, I guess a missing arm would mess things up. *lol*
@@meetmeonmars If you get the time and inclination, it'd be great for some of us if you did a video on chaining an Akstar and Zeno. The rotations can be simple, but interested in seeing others for the better combos. Combining a TDW and TDH to chain is quite a challenge. Also tried to see who should start chain and end chain. Endless possibilities, which is cool, but ugh - is there a good approach to start chain with one and end with the other vs certain bosses? So far, best chain of around 47 hits for a bit over 1 bil damage in training ground in 1 turn - that's after imperil/imbue/etc. I essentially followed similar abilities you recommended from both your akstar and zeno videos separately and combined it *lol*
You put War goddess insignia on him in your budget build. If I have 2 colorful lei's and A Lasswell's STMR on him for 60% evade, do you think it's more worth it to put a quick assault on him, or still go with WGI? Also, do you think he's even worth using if someone has A Lasswell? Or should I just work on gearing him instead?
Does using the Limit burst on turn 3 "reset the stack"? I've heard about stacking abilities, but not sure if only dying will lose the stack bonus. Thoughts on 'Heart Overwhelming Hatered" materia? Fills LB every turn and boost LB damage.
Love Zeno!!! I love how salty the Esther owners are crying over and debating how OP Esther is to justify their saltiness over Zeno on Reddit. Thanks for the guide and breaking down the Alphastar awesomeness
I have a 7 * Esther and wish I had a 7* Zeno, too (just have one right now). Having those two would carry me quite a way in the game until I really needed to try for a new damage dealer.
Only thing I disagree with is the stmr over 2 Zenos. There are not a lot of Zeno friends, so taking that out of the equation will be very nice. Especially since the friends list is crap
Depends on what roles you already can cover, but in general support units like sylvie are much more (longer) future proof than damage dealer, BUT on the other hand sylvie is already a really solid unit at only 6*, so might as well go for 7* Zeno in this case.
Hey Mars, I kinda whale and can I say great content and thank you. I Got Akstar Stmr just doing the 4 laps 3 Zeno (Almost what I was aiming for). But I decided to go High Tide build due to the stmr's I have access to me. I am rocking Ultima weapon (FFBE)/ Zantezuken(FFbe) 50% (HT) His Helm for another 50% Regan's Trench Coat for 50% 2 X Storm Kickers cause why not Dreams of the Fayt Twisted hero Hearts light and Regan's TMR. I just sent you a Friend request btw if you want to see
i was actually aiming for akstar in this banner and thankfully i got 4 and i am happy about it he looks so cool and i got 1 zeno but idk if i should uoc the other one
They're all good, but tbh I think I like Esther the best. Easier to use, harder to screw up with, and does amazing damage. Zeno and Akstar both are incredible as well though, so choose what you love the most!
Doesn't using his w-skill, t-skill and his LB only use the attack from the weapon in his right hand? The only reason you'd want strong weapons in both hands is if you have mana issues and don't want to use w-skill, or just want to see the high number next to the "atk" stat. edit: Wait, does the bonus atk from 200% TDW take into account the extra atk from his other weapon? If so lol jk my post was just a prank
@@eyeswulf So you subtract the off hand weapon attack, but you DON'T subtract the 200% bonus that he gets from TDW? Right? So if I have a 150 attack off-hand weapon, then that adds 450 attack to my atk stat, but then I subtract 150 (from the base attack) and I only get a 300 attack bonus...?
lightning stmr, muramasa, luneth stmr, 2xstorm kicker, twisted hero, onion stmr, Reagan tmr, Odin... 3014 atk... I have 3 zeno... should I UOC 1 more for his stmr? lolz
sometimes I feel bad for using my Zeno just as a support chainer for my Esther just because I don't really have that much good katanas(need to get my Sephiroth to 100%tmr for me to have a decent katana) xD
I'd say it depends in your resources and your previous chainers: If you have Esther, you could really stop there. If you have enough for a step up lap or two, you could try to get Akstar or Zeno to 7* (either should be really fine) if all you've got are UoC's...I'd err in the side of caution and just UoC Akstar. As most have said, it will be a while before akstar's raw power starts coming up short for new content, let alone Esther or Zeno.
Do you think it's worth wasting 9000 lapis to summon the last step (5000 lapis, that one has Akstar or Zeno guaranteed) and the first step again (4000 lapis, the one that gives you a piece of A/Z ticket)? (because if I summon the first step again, I will get the last piece to summon a 5* star guaranteed with the A/Z ticket.) I already have Akstar 7* and Zeno 7*...what do you think? (I'm aiming to get Zeno's STMR)
For some reason. I can't get this guy past 2.5k atk. When i try to build him on the builder it says he should go to 2.65k buut mine is capped there. Some tip?
@@meetmeonmars maxed out. Again i'm not sure what i'm missing. I don't have crazy ammount of afk weapons. Buut 130 and 135 should be enough since the builder was set with my current equipment (sage for reagen' s tm that has just 10% higher atk)
@@meetmeonmars mmh i dunno the only thing i found is Odin's stats cause i used the katana 20% atk buff instead of the lance ones. But still i'm capped and the builder is not. So i think i bugged something idk. Not really a big deal I was just wondering if someone knew what's up Thanks mars you and your videos are my favorite things ffbe related
I got the beta version of zeno ;-;
The visual rotation is very helpful. Thank you
Ive got Esther, Zeno and Akstar, literally anyone of them will suit you just fine, the gaps in power dont matter if we dont have the content that requires the Next Top Meta unit
So Mars after getting ridiculously lucky on ticket pulls I ended up with 3 Zeno. I built him up to over 3k attack. I added him to my Raid team which is Auron, Akstar, Zeno, Esther, Esther. I do max damage every turn to the current raid boss on Elite. I really wanted to save my tickets for Aerith who will be an amazing healer but Jesus after watching your video on his tour of destruction I got a little hyped and pulled and the gods favored me and now I just need one more which I might UoC if I don't get lucky with a 4th. I am just hoping I get a 4th before Item World leaves so I can get as much HP and MP on it as possible :D I am man enough to admit when I am wrong and Mars I love Zeno as much as I Love my little Bun Buns.
Love this Zeno guy man, my Hyoh used to be 2k attack, now I put some stuff in Zeno and he is fucking 200% LB Fill Rate and 3k atk!
Hey Mars, I want to point out that if you W Cast ROAR, it will use the right hand weapon twice in the damage calculation. Might be useful if you are using a low weapon on the off hand for a killer or element
That's a good point!
Main Zeno - STMR Shadow Lord; Muramasa(FFBE); Zeno Trust; Suzume's Kimono; 2 Desch's Earring's; Past Regrets; Katana Mastery; Onion Knight's Mission and Adventure V!! Atk - 2918 with Titan Reflect Stats!!
Thanks for the heads up bro 😁 I always love what you put up for the community, tactician
Pulled three zeros and 2 akstars
Now I love having Knight Delita’s STMR, it makes Zeno tankier, plus man eater
Nice video. You have a nice voice to listen to.
I really needed this info for my Zeno. Thank u!
Hey Mars brother hope you are well great video thanks for all the work!
Exactly what I was looking for
Man your opening is catchy, it reminds me of Mass Effect
I freaking love Mass Effect.
another day, another awesome review from Mars, thank you, my guy! Got almost the same equip on my Zeno and I should say I'm very impressed:)
I just love the sprite of all the new DD's and got them all 7★ - wanna try doing some char rotation, not to stick with just one:) gonna be fun:)
Dual wield gear on Zeno TDH gear on akstar and chain together that's how it's done akstar is still top tier having a unit who is a similar power level to akstar who chains perfectly with him who doesn't need buster style etc makes having the pair of them amazing
Awesome video, thanks for this!
16:08 Now now, you are discounting the power of chair quite a bit.
The chair can be powerful, doesn't mean you need it if you have Zeno though!
This video: Perfection!
As a purely FTP player having a unit with 2900 ATK just feels amazing in itself, not to mention he works so well with my Auron
I did get zeno, but i love esther too. Right now i have him running gilgamesh katana plus hyohs stmr with protec grappler and marshal glove for atk stat. His helmet and hyohs clothes. Twisted hero katana mastery killer power of Id. Makes over 2900 atk and takes nothing from my 2856 atk esther (2x storm kickers and her stmr with scanning goggles and cloudKH stmr) haven't played with them together but i want them to be friends lol
Andy Patt He does have a BS chain so you could run a thunder element and chain with Esther so you can sorta make it work. Although it's not optimal I've been doing it since I got him to 7 just because I like them both.
(fairly odd parents meme) this is where my zeno 7 star should be If i had it.
I used 1 uoc for Zeno and used all my pots 😳 good investment. now it’s time to save again ✌️
Hey, True MoE increases it's own modifier so you don't want to W-Cast it you want to just let TDW use it twice.
That will save MP too, right?
@@grimsoar8818 Yeah, but I don't care about MP costs. I'm just pointing out how to more efficiently use him. There's so many ways to refresh MP now that I've never run into an issue unless a unit is a true MP hog like Golbez.
I got 4 Akstar and 2 Zeno yay!.
Pulled 8 Akstar and 4 zeno, 375,003,544 - Zeno is sitting at 3062 ATK, 15k+ HP, and status immunity (minus charm and stop).
I don't have him, but I'm watching in hopes of getting him.
RAWR x3
rawr
Hey, Mars. Are you gonna do a similar video for Akstar? I hard pulled them both (free to play player: basically not pulling on something from KH banner 😂) and got Akstar and Zeno both, but I'd like to know more about the other withe-air guy rotation? Thanks and keep going, love your videos
Yes. :)
Tidus STMR is another good materia for him if you have it..
I wish it gave more ATK, but yeah it's alright.
@@meetmeonmarsI agree and I don't have Sephiroth's STMR. But with other S/TMR's I was able to break 3K attack. The LB fill rate with Tidus STMR, pretty much get his LB up every other turn.
I have a frined that built a 3000 + atk Zeno
*sigh* FYI: Akstar & Zeno's LB (for those of us with 1 of each 7 star)... don't chain perfectly. I can usually get 6 chains ... 7 sometimes. . . the frames don't match. There's a reddit post about it too. Kinda silly from one perspective - but from another, I guess a missing arm would mess things up. *lol*
Yeah that's definitely a gripe of mine.
@@meetmeonmars If you get the time and inclination, it'd be great for some of us if you did a video on chaining an Akstar and Zeno. The rotations can be simple, but interested in seeing others for the better combos. Combining a TDW and TDH to chain is quite a challenge. Also tried to see who should start chain and end chain. Endless possibilities, which is cool, but ugh - is there a good approach to start chain with one and end with the other vs certain bosses? So far, best chain of around 47 hits for a bit over 1 bil damage in training ground in 1 turn - that's after imperil/imbue/etc. I essentially followed similar abilities you recommended from both your akstar and zeno videos separately and combined it *lol*
@@calvinlee449 I've done a little testing with both units so I'll see what I can include in upcoming videos
You put War goddess insignia on him in your budget build. If I have 2 colorful lei's and A Lasswell's STMR on him for 60% evade, do you think it's more worth it to put a quick assault on him, or still go with WGI? Also, do you think he's even worth using if someone has A Lasswell? Or should I just work on gearing him instead?
Does using the Limit burst on turn 3 "reset the stack"? I've heard about stacking abilities, but not sure if only dying will lose the stack bonus.
Thoughts on 'Heart Overwhelming Hatered" materia? Fills LB every turn and boost LB damage.
Love Zeno!!! I love how salty the Esther owners are crying over and debating how OP Esther is to justify their saltiness over Zeno on Reddit. Thanks for the guide and breaking down the Alphastar awesomeness
Lol the funny thing Is that Esther Is op too, not as broken as Zeno, but if you have her you can completely skip the banner
Even Akstar is OP compared to the content we currently have. Hoping for Octopus Reborn this week, I'm looking forward to a proper test for Esther
I have a 7 * Esther and wish I had a 7* Zeno, too (just have one right now). Having those two would carry me quite a way in the game until I really needed to try for a new damage dealer.
@@jason_5792 esther is the more atractive character in game is fun to play with her, zeno is boring
I got both zeno and Esther and they chain well together, plus you want Esther against machine boss..
Only thing I disagree with is the stmr over 2 Zenos. There are not a lot of Zeno friends, so taking that out of the equation will be very nice. Especially since the friends list is crap
I'm kinda in dilemma right now. I can't pick which should I pull with my UoC, Zeno or Sylvie? Both of them are good.
I'm not sure either!
look at what other damage dealer/supports you have and go from there~
Depends on what roles you already can cover, but in general support units like sylvie are much more (longer) future proof than damage dealer, BUT on the other hand sylvie is already a really solid unit at only 6*, so might as well go for 7* Zeno in this case.
sylvie is most usefull, there is so many dps, is you have sora or esther don't bother with zeno
If you have a close to top tier dps.. sylvie first. Then save your next uoc up to get Zeno
Hey Mars, I kinda whale and can I say great content and thank you. I Got Akstar Stmr just doing the 4 laps 3 Zeno (Almost what I was aiming for). But I decided to go High Tide build due to the stmr's I have access to me. I am rocking Ultima weapon (FFBE)/ Zantezuken(FFbe) 50% (HT) His Helm for another 50% Regan's Trench Coat for 50% 2 X Storm Kickers cause why not Dreams of the Fayt Twisted hero Hearts light and Regan's TMR. I just sent you a Friend request btw if you want to see
Sorry, I have Gentle Traitor in place of Twisted Hero... Akstar hogging up my Katana stuff
Roeeeereeeer
i was actually aiming for akstar in this banner and thankfully i got 4 and i am happy about it he looks so cool and i got 1 zeno but idk if i should uoc the other one
Zeno is good, but you don't have to UOC if you have Akstar!
@@meetmeonmars thanks for the reply :D
are you planning to do a guide for akstar ?
@@bigboss_msf1039 yes. :)
@@bigboss_msf1039 Yessir. :)
@@meetmeonmars xD btw do u have a build in mind that would help akstar with his hp cuz its my only problem i have 2.8 k attack on him but 7k hp
I still wish to add Acuity and Disorder, I knowt is only a 50%, and its only from 550% to 600%, but what can I say, Im that sort of OCD
Hope you'll make same vid for Asktar too :)
I'd never miss it! :)
@@meetmeonmars Can't wait to see it :)
I got zeno of the beta star just tonight on ffbe need advice on good powerful build I not own alot tmrs yet on game
Thanks for the vid friend... I have only one copy of Zeno, Esther and Akstar and I don't know how spend my UoC.. 😒
Any suggestions..?
Do zeno first, Esther 2nd....forget akstar if you cannot afford uoc...he's not as good as those 2
They're all good, but tbh I think I like Esther the best. Easier to use, harder to screw up with, and does amazing damage. Zeno and Akstar both are incredible as well though, so choose what you love the most!
Hey guys, thanks for yours advice..
Only have 1 so *shrugs* i did get 7* sieghard though....im happy
Same
Got 3 Akstar and 1 Zeno now my question is UoC Zeno or get the STMR for Akstar.
zeno ofc fuck akstar
Is he still as usefull at 6 stars? I didn't manage to pull a second one and i have used all of my tikets :(
Doesn't using his w-skill, t-skill and his LB only use the attack from the weapon in his right hand? The only reason you'd want strong weapons in both hands is if you have mana issues and don't want to use w-skill, or just want to see the high number next to the "atk" stat.
edit: Wait, does the bonus atk from 200% TDW take into account the extra atk from his other weapon? If so lol jk my post was just a prank
Tdw bonus is treated as equipment bonus. So, subtract the off hand weapon's atk from the DMG sheet atk for calc purposes
TBH I'm not 100% sure on that. 🤔
@@eyeswulf So you subtract the off hand weapon attack, but you DON'T subtract the 200% bonus that he gets from TDW? Right?
So if I have a 150 attack off-hand weapon, then that adds 450 attack to my atk stat, but then I subtract 150 (from the base attack) and I only get a 300 attack bonus...?
Pulled 4 akstar and 1 Zeno I’m gonna get second with UOC should I keep 2 akstar or get the stmr on akstar
Stmt imo
@@logancatz5916 thank you i held a poll on twitter they agreed. Based on the sheer amount of DPS I have.
lightning stmr, muramasa, luneth stmr, 2xstorm kicker, twisted hero, onion stmr, Reagan tmr, Odin... 3014 atk...
I have 3 zeno... should I UOC 1 more for his stmr? lolz
Hell yeah. I got 1zeno and 5akstar but enough for 3uoc's. I'm not beating anything until I have them both maxed
It's a pretty damn strong STMR. You would use it for ages. Long as you have everything else covered you'd probably be fine!
Is a stmr staff important? I lack aoe reraise... I only have a 6* lotus mage fina... lolz
@@Lxlohs 7* healers are helpful but not always necessary. I view reraise as a luxury
I wanted akstar but the game gave me zeno..... 2 time .... but why ? I wanted akstar
won't it be better to just use True Mirror on turn 4 with his DW?
That's also an option. I think it's recommended to use Roar to get the stacks maxed as quickly as possible for the following triple cast.
sometimes I feel bad for using my Zeno just as a support chainer for my Esther just because I don't really have that much good katanas(need to get my Sephiroth to 100%tmr for me to have a decent katana) xD
What about Gilgamesh?
yes, wath about gilmamesh katana will work perfect here
@@kamiboshi5930 genji blade? I have it on him, might try to get sasuke's katana soon
@@Xedllin I meant the Gilgamesh Kai katana not original gengi blade sorry
@@kamiboshi5930 still haven't beaten gilgamesh kai, might try when I have enough free time to read up all of the mechanics
Also I think I messed up because I got my tmr to 100% before the stmr because my stmr only went to 50% ):
Arnold Stmartin, is you only had 3 Zeno’s to begin with you would get 50% on the stmr regardless if you have his tmr or not
David Aka Aztek I have akstars tmr at 74 and his tmr @ 0 or 50 but zenos tmr is 100% and stmr 50%, how can I get it to 100%
You need a total of 4 5* base units to get it’s Stmr
Had one Akstar, should I UoC another or go for two Zenos?
I'd say it depends in your resources and your previous chainers: If you have Esther, you could really stop there. If you have enough for a step up lap or two, you could try to get Akstar or Zeno to 7* (either should be really fine) if all you've got are UoC's...I'd err in the side of caution and just UoC Akstar. As most have said, it will be a while before akstar's raw power starts coming up short for new content, let alone Esther or Zeno.
Mario's answer is pretty good. I'd go with that.
@@mariocastillo8334 No Esther, no nothing jaja, but got the UoCs.
Yo who the person who gave ma boi one dislike? Sit yo goofy ass down
and i just uoc'd esther...
And she's still overkill for all the content in the game, Zeno just overkills things a bit more
Me too, and i spend 5 tickets and i get 2 zenos
Do you think it's worth wasting 9000 lapis to summon the last step (5000 lapis, that one has Akstar or Zeno guaranteed) and the first step again (4000 lapis, the one that gives you a piece of A/Z ticket)? (because if I summon the first step again, I will get the last piece to summon a 5* star guaranteed with the A/Z ticket.) I already have Akstar 7* and Zeno 7*...what do you think? (I'm aiming to get Zeno's STMR)
Your odds aren't amazing for STMR with those two steps and the bonus ticket, but it is better chances than anything else!
Thanks for answering me :)
Omg i cant uoc zeno wtf. Is this a thing? Can u uoc zeno? :,c
No one can yet, bro. You have to wait until their banner is over.
@@mariocastillo8334 omg ty Bro :33
First time I will use UoC for a STMR, very tempting and amazing 1H Katana. 40% atk with 75% human killer and 180 atk stat...wtf
For some reason. I can't get this guy past 2.5k atk. When i try to build him on the builder it says he should go to 2.65k buut mine is capped there. Some tip?
Atk pots maybe?
@@meetmeonmars maxed out. Again i'm not sure what i'm missing. I don't have crazy ammount of afk weapons. Buut 130 and 135 should be enough since the builder was set with my current equipment (sage for reagen' s tm that has just 10% higher atk)
Safe*
@@andreainghilterra I'm honestly not sure! Could it be the esper in the calculator defaulted to ST Reflection Boost that you're not using?
@@meetmeonmars mmh i dunno the only thing i found is Odin's stats cause i used the katana 20% atk buff instead of the lance ones. But still i'm capped and the builder is not. So i think i bugged something idk. Not really a big deal I was just wondering if someone knew what's up
Thanks mars you and your videos are my favorite things ffbe related
Good for youtubers who pay money to the game to get lapis i wanted him too but no money im not a paying customer
You don't have to pay to get him, you just have to have not spent on Esther. XD
@@meetmeonmars haha na man i wanted zeno but they give me sophia jecht and nameless gunner jake so its still good