Unnecessary or Underrated? NFS Shift Retrospective | KuruHS
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We take a look back at 2009's Need for Speed Shift - with the power of hindsight, was it a good entry or did it deserve to fail?
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Fun fact, they originally tried to make Shift an entire sub-series, right up until the moment EA betrayed Slightly Mad. The lead dev then secretly created a shell company to hold the rights to Shift's important assets in so that EA couldn't pillage them upon trying to shutter SM and they made a daring escape. The only developer to successfully break free of EA. (For a while anyway)
Where can I read about this? Sounds juicy af.
@@pocketstationman6364 SpotTheOzzie's interview with Ian Bell, at the 6:14:07 mark.
@@CaptPatrick01 thanks!
And that was the moment to Codemasters buying Slightly Mad.
Slightly Mad Studios runs away from EA. Codemasters buys Slightly Mad Studios then. EA buys Codemasters then. What a betrayal from Codemasters.
I don't know how you make cars feel like they understeer and oversteer at the same time, but my gripes with the handling aside, I think NFS Shift is underrated. I just love the immersion and sense off speed in this game. And the events and how the cars handle feels different from one another (if kinda sucky)
Its called *gripn't*
Yep I agree. Absolutely underrated game. I have it on both ps3 and psp
ah yes, GRIPN'T
The tyre model is either undercooked or bad by design. Cars slip nearly to the point of sliding, even FWD under "regular" cornering. You can clearly observe that from third person cams.
That being said, another game that's a match for that sense of speed, if not more, is Descenders...
Honestly this is why I’m so fricken hesitant to play NFS Shift 1 and 2, they have a terrible handling model, and that to me is the most important thing in a racing game, with car sound design being second. Gimme a good immersive environment all you want, but have a shitty handling model and you’re not getting me to play.
NFS Shift was one of the first NFS games (alongside HP2010) that looked photorealistic at the time.
In my opinion hot pursuit still looks great in 2021.
@@dejoelf2883 same, HP back when it was released blowed my mind everytime I went in a tunnel with cop cars chasing me and the lights reflecting everywhere in a realistic way
I thought NFS 2015 is photorealistiv
Nah Prostreet had revolutionary graphics and damage for Need For Speed at the time.
We went from the grainy, dark, damp world of Carbon and into the clear light of Prostreet.
Almost everything about Protreet was revolutionary honestly. They expanded the tuning from Underground 2, added a vinyl and decal creator/editor with 20 overlays(huge deal at the time for online racing games), brought wheelie competitions to racing games(also had not been done),
The last NFS game to have autosculpt(that I know of), the realistic damage model and hitboxes were excellent(also the biggest downfall causing the "slim" car selection).
Prostreet did so many more things right than wrong. And graphics were at the top of the list of things that went right with Prostreet.
@@K3ntucky123 it is... But its all wet causing it to look more realistic.
I mean i could do the same in Roblox
And yes i watched the clear mod... But they need to show it in daytime mod
Shift 1 was a unique experience with the still immersive cockpit view and the improved one in the sequel. Shift 1 was as good back then and now with it's car selection and event variety in 2009. A lot of people say the handing is bad or wonky is wrong it's easy just to get in and drive and is really forgiving than it's sequel since it expects some to play like burnout. I would put shift as underrated since it's overlook by prostreet and is the "gt/forza clone" of the series which isn't fair to call it that. I think a shift 3 is deserved for SMS.
Yea, I remember how the cockpit view impressed me as a kid
@@Zanbatoss still is one of the best cockpit view in a racing game and nothing has come close to shift 2 immersion.
I was playing it with the low steering assist because it's just felt more free to control the car (since high steering assist just handles like 50% of your cars) and still able to keep in the racing line. I'm also turned off the traction control because 1 thing I notice is that the launch is much better without TC. For drift handling I gotta say the way to stop drift is kinda weird, like I had to slow down quite a bit or my cars is just stuck at those drift angle or just going to much to start another drift to the opposite way (if you turning to another direction instead), but still better than Shift 2 one. And I'm not quite suprise if it expect to play like burnout, considering that the game still awards you for playing dirty
Both games had a very weird handling, they "drifted without loosing grip" it was really really weird, you were taking corners right but drifting? without spinning and loosing speed. Idk how to explain it was weird af , but thats how I felt it.
@@alessgr9394 This thing was very problem when trying to obtain a 3 sec slide star
one thing i love about this game are the gauges, they vary according to the car and it's awesome
It's clearly underrated though the handling model is rather flawed due to the input lag (only a steering wheel or a controller can mitigate the issue) just like ProStreet.
but atleast this game dont give more understeer
So it's possible to play it with steering wheel? That's how I planned to play Shift and Shift 2 if it works.
Cool because I can't play with my G923 , so Ill have to stick to assetto
I used a Logitech Formula Force EX steering wheel and worked just fine for both games without the worry of input lag unlike playing with a keyboard.
I don't know why you'd want to try and play Shift with anything but a controller or a wheel to begin with lol
This has the ideal camera movements on a racing game. It's simple enough to convey jumps, collisions, acceleration, high speed, and etc. with one basic solution, by reading the gforce and suspension. And it feels really good.
The drift on shift 1 was unplayable with input lag, but on shift 2 it's manageable and satisfying.
there were alot of small details i liked about this game like how the nos was like super realistic and how your peripheral vision would get all blurry in the cockpit veiw the faster your going
3:36 This still occurs in Shift 2 though, even the funnier thing is that there was some sort of Timesaver pack, which is basically makes ALL of the cars for FREE
I might be in minority, but I absolutely love this game, especially since I played it on steering wheel, with no assists whatsoever. Even drift events are very enjoyable and great fun for me, although Kuru seems to hate them immensly :) Only things that bugged me, were what Kuru mentioned @10:30, the fact that your car gets under the opponents cars when you hit them, that's so dumb. Other thing, was what I called "magnetic barriers" - once you hit one of those, you have quite a problem getting back on track, just like it was pulling you towards it. Apart from that, I had an absolutely great experience playing this game. And the engine roars are fantastic, the way the engines scream, make cars really sound like a proper racing machines, not some toys
I can imagine you trying to bump draft and then just going *"oh"*
I loved this game too! Played the crap out of it and absolutely maxed out the E92 M3 (731hp, 0-60 in 1.9) without changing the gear ratios so I’ll be constantly redlining in 6th gear
I remember going in Quick Race, choosing "8" shaped race, max laps, and knocking every opponent to make them going sideways.
Dude i did the same
It's underrated. The one of the seed of Project cars series.
At its time, Shift was pretty good, but underrated. But now, when we do have Shift 2: Unleashed, which is better in every apsect - the first one is completely unnecessary
Shift was my first NFS that I got the year it was released.
I only played on Keyboard at this time.
The Elise event was pure horror 😂
My first racing game when i was a kid... i still love this game so much. Thank you Kuru for still playing this game :)
2:04 That is for medium difficulty only. On easy, you can do five cuts, and on hard, you can only do two cuts before disqualification.
My favorite Need For Speed game and its super underrated.
Cool rocking song what plays on every stream is: Deadmau5 - When The Summer Dies
The best part of the video was seeing cats. Cats are awesome 😄
I didn't know that Kuru have cats
Daaamn, nice Du Hast riff sync with the crash. That was hilarious kekw
Shift and really any slightly mad studios game feels like someone made a sim handling model but has never driven a car. Or better yet, someone making a realistic driving model but only basing it on making cars harder to drive= more realistic.
10:06 red supra(?) Driver knowing Kuru's reputation and his horizon eliminator reputation: "no thanks. I choose life"
It would be pretty cool if EA does what forza is doing with horizon and motorsport. We could have the Pro Street series for "sim-cade" and regular NFS for arcade and open world
That would be cool except that they left behind both shift and pro street. Its funny how they trid to fix Pro Street with shift and proceeded to create a "higher quality title" but that people didn't enjoy as much.
Underrated, Cute cat ❤️
Kuru: Pushes Works R35 off track
*Game: Badge Earned! Clean Overtake*
The racing game that i played the most on the 360, even more then FM 3 and 4, the immersion, the customization in this game is so perfect, i know that it aint a simulator, but i really play like one, the only thing that i dislike about this game is how the car seens to oversteer in 3° person, so i always play in the cockpit or the helmet camera
Driving the Pagani Zonda R in this game is probably the most batshit insane portrayal of any driving experience in any game. Not only do you have insane physics & all but in a car that is loud as hell as well
Shift 2 is my favorite video game of all time
As a nfs , unnecessary as a game, underrated
I love that Suspension bug with the Dodge Challenger Concept on NFS Shift 😂❤
I won the game recently on a murcielago, it just drifts around corners (which is INSANELY good) and overall just is fast
The sense of speed im this game was amazing. The cockpit view is the absolute best and most immersive of any racing game, still unmatched. When a car had some serious pulling power, you could almost feel it irl. I always raced 1st person view becuase the outside view is mediocre. But man did I get thrilled when I was in the cockpit of a zonda R in this game. No game has made me feel like that in cockpit view, ever. And the carsounds are great too
When i first got this game i didn't realize you could scroll don't and quit the events from the pause menu. Because the orange arrow at the bottom of the first screen looks more like a line. So i would just keep retrying events until i won or just ejected the disk and put it back in to get back to main menu.
Underrated Gem
Nice cat bro i love your vids
I'll def consider playing it when a fix comes to deal with the input lag
lmao
I Love the Crash Physik in these Game❤️
This game was underrated the online races were amazing
Very underrated game. I enjoyed this game alot. I remember when 360 first came out this game was pretty much the "tech demo" for the new console in stores 💯
Still lovin this game. My first proper racing game.
actually grid 2 had hong kong
and as hker im quite surprised
Oh yeah, I remember that
I remember loving this game 👍
It’s not the best NFS title but so what? There was still a ton of fun to be had; the drifting kept me coming back
i like how you skipped UG2, MW, Carbon and Prostreet in your retorspective because you have played them so much
Nfs shift feels like a sequel to prostreet
Interior of cars is just wow
Shift games and Hot Pursuit were the only good 7th gen NFS games
I did love this game i remember I was taking the lambo you did use here and did usually drive under other cars 😂 custom race the oval one 🤣
Playing Shift and using an exterior camera is throwing away the game's best feature, which is the cockpit cam. For experience, Shift games have yet to be beaten (Driveclub would be the closest best thing).
I liked Shift and Shift 2 way more than Pro Street... Mainly because when Pro Street got released, I bought the game expecting some professional street racing scene and I got circuit racing instead which made me super mad because I wanted to race them streets like in Most Wanted, not circuit racing... So I sold it to a friend... And when Shift got released I did expected circuit racing, didnt buy it at the time but later on and I liked it very much... I didnt like NFS Most wanted 2015 cuz of the car collecting stuff... and then I just played NFS a bit trough up till NFS Heat which got me hooked on the ability to get one car and race it till the end and never swap it... That was legit the best feature in a game that I have seen... Building an attachment with your car is a key in my opinion and swaping cars cuz you need something better and ending up with some super cars was never my style...
10:30 idk why but i find it funny that the front of the murcielago is so low it could flip other peoples off the road
[Some if not all cars can do it anyway]
Shift is the only game series to make the racing experience much more dangerous and morbid
It's easily my favorite NFS game (besides Shift Unleashed) and I'm annoyed it's not offered for sale or through EA play like most of the other titles. Going to have to grab it again for my ps3.
R34 works converted and tuned is the most op car for grip, sprint and time attack
I remember playing this in my ps3 ahhh my gallardo
A different need for speed....nice video bro...
I remember buying a McLaren and never drove it because I couldn’t go more than a few comers without spinning out lmao. This game is like taking the awful handling of the Ruf in Gt5 and applying it to every car
Honestly the only way to play Shift games is with a Wheel. It gets sooo much better its insane
I remember it got a lot of hate and disgust when it was first announced and released, it was blown way out of proportion. It was shocking. I guess time siphoned the displeasure towards this game.
Nice cat you got to babysit there.
WAYYYY ahead of its time Shift 1 and 2
I think Real Racing 2 and 3 is somewhat a successor to Shift series even though both games were made by different developers for different platforms.
Both games share similar racing event styles, in name atleast (Endurance for example), both have damage and interiors, both have exact same transmission whine and some menu sounds and both have similar cars.
The physics is simpler in RR3 though (not much body roll) and as such the Ai is less crazy.
My first nfs game :')
I grew up on Forza Motorsport games, but for me NFS Shift alongside Shift 2 are better games. Maybe except customization and drift physics, which are better in Forza Motorsport.
12:43 Awwwwwwwww so cute
KURU, this saga counts on a community unofficial patch, appart from handling mods, if you want them.
Cute intro cat.
This game is next level in First person mode.
I absolutely respect all opinions, but since I hear/read it often… why so many people dislike undercover? I mean, it’s not an issue, but what’s the difference between undercover and underground/most wanted?
The cat was camera shy
It's underrated but definitely anything than a Simulation. It's a funny innovation besides the regular Need for Speed titles.
Unpopular opinion but I actually enjoyed this and Shift 2
12:20 Sleeping Dogs?
that game had a few races too
I quite liked it, except for the Drift event and the bouncy cars
I need to see more of Kuru’s cats now
we need more kurucatto content
Can’t believe he didn’t visit the figure-8 lol.
I used to shred the 350z in Drift Mode
This whole video is basically NFS Shift Takedown
This track is banger 2:42 minami west
In the beginning the forza horizon 1 song hit me hard
I just hate how bouncy the cars are and the ai, they are all over the place even occasionally straight up not braking and smashing the barriers.
And the livery editor, even carbon is way superior
Other than that I think the game is pretty solid
No Kuru stream archives?
I played Shift actively for 4 years and the AI were never THAT dirty. They’re acting like you killed their whole family
6:12 Same for every single dev of any 30 FPS game in the last decade.
4:58 Huh, exactly like in those videos of _Forza Motorsport 7_ rubberbanding.
@3:06 @4:16 @ 4:55 @6:31 @8:35 @8:51 God! Its demolition derby out there
0:41 Nick Cooper, is that you? How did you get from Pepega Street Festivals to here?
Rather underrated :) Definitely better than Pro Street :D
Anyone else notice them biceps I'm the beginning of the video?
Well kuru has an gaming cat 😺
In my opinion the second game (Shift 2) has more soul than ProStreet. Just listen to the soundtrack.
9:55 badge earned...
it's fun
14:38 F Alexi Cumia in this event and any of his events! That cheating Lambo!
And Josef Taylor's rule-breaking cheat in a Works Restricted Competition driver duel, where he switched to a Pagani Zonda F, despite we are limited to works-converted cars only, but himself can drive a supercar.
Is there a mod for this game to remove input lag like with prostreet?
What song is at the beginning
is there a way to play nfs shift 2 on pc ??
To be fair, this is one of the only few games where the GTR is really good.
I just hate how the car controls in Shift.
Edit: I love it now
9:54 Wreckfest looking a bit different don't know why