What I love about these comments is that we have finally passed the point where people drop in only to say "battery sux, gas rulez", now we have informed detailed discussion between the growing number of us using battery saws seriously.
But are you using them seriously? Every day all day to make money? I think it will be a while before you see fallers with electric, but electric top handles are amazing for climbing.
@@SlimPickins_07I am. Have tens of thousands of dollars into Ego equipment. Good investment that pays for itself over time. For good runtime though, you need a Backpack Link and 12Ah batteries.
This chainsaw seems very powerful, more than the Stihl MSA300 which is 3000w and even the Greenworks 82CS34. On the other hand, the larger the batteries, the heavier the chainsaw.
Hey! Have you heard/seen where EGO is coming out with a 18", and a 16" bar and chain for the CSX5000? They're already listed at the place where I bought my saw and battery. But they're listed as new for 2024, and there's a button to push for pre-order.
Interesting. As far as I can tell, it's identical to the Oregon guide bar, so this would probably work as well. I'm going to do some chain comparisons eventually.
I love all my ego products (smart load trimmer, hedge trimmer, 765cfm blower, push lawnmower, power station to slowly charge/maintain batteries and have backup power ) but the things I won't swap from battery power are my 18" Echo gas Chainsaw, snow blower and 3200 psi Generac pressure washer
I am mostly in the Greenworks 80/82 volt lineup, but the tools are fairly similar... the chainsaw is what first got me started on cordless tools. I love my husky 372xp, but the ease of most of this battery stuff is what sold me. We'll see what happens when it starts to break, but hopefully I'm years away from that. One of the things I like about Ego is parts availability.
Would love to see a similar test but with your eye on the load indicator if you run it at like 75% 80% will it run until the battery is depleted or still overheat
Regarding the oil pouring out of the side cover of the EGO: do you think it would help to enlarge the oil hole in the bar to more fully engage the oil port of the saw body?
I would have to look at the alignment again, but that sounds reasonable. At least opening the hole in the direction of the oiling, depending on how you are making it bigger.
I realized that after I sent the comment. Just as likely have to take a Dremel and pointed carbide bit; and elongate the oil channel in the direction of the oil port on the body.
I looked and I couldn't find any 24" Oregon guide bar with an A095 tailstock. I DID find a few 095 ones; but they had a different letter before it. The bar I ordered from Amazon had a tailstock that was too long. It was for a Husqvarna 365 372 Rancher.
The 365/372 is a pro saw as far as I know (mine is a 372xp). You would be looking to match a 455 or 460 rancher guide bar if looking on Amazon. Tailstock isn't often listed there.
Depends on the battery, I'm putting together a comparison between the 2 saws. If I run a 5ah battery hard I'll still overheat it on the Greenworks, but not as quickly I don't think. I'm not even going to test a 4ah, because it's not enough.
@bradleybrown7801 not sure without looking. You have to match the tailstock to get it to mount and oil properly. If you go on the Oregon website under guide bars, you should be able to match it up. They give pictures and measurements for all the styles they make. Make sure that the guide bar is the same pitch as the drive spur/sprocket. At 20 inches, you can probably get .325 or 3/8 bar to match what is already on the saw. Once you go above 20 inch 3/8 or bigger, but I definitely wouldn't try to go above 20 with the 16 inch saw.
Please post the link to the swapping out of the 'sprocket'. And give the exact name and part number of each of the components; so I don't get the wrong parts.
Let me know if you need anymore detail than what's in the description. I got the sprocket on Amazon. I think you can pay around with sprockets that have larger or smaller outside diameters which will effect output speed and torque inversely according to size... larger diameter sprocket is faster but less torque.
I'm speculating that EGO KNEW that this powerhead would handle a 24" bar. But ALSO knew; that their battery technology couldn't keep up; and that's the reason for the bar being 'only' 20".
I really think it's all about the weight. To run a big bar, you need a big battery and no one wants to advertise a 25lb chainsaw unless it's able to keep up with a 100cc plus gas equivalent.
@@reusefullI just looked at it from the perspective of; I give up; it's already heavy. What's a couple extra pounds? You don't really notice the weight THAT much anyway; once the bar is buried in the wood.
@John-cj3ve it doesn't bother me to much either. I have an 82CS24 that I run for smaller stuff and that's pretty light... I think about 13 or 14 pounds ready to cut.
I love battery tools ! But gas will always win !!! If you do it commercially go with gas ! Sometimes you have to use batteries stuff because for example in CA there’s some placers where you can not use gas ! So you are obligated to use battery tools otherwise GAS is the best !
As I understand it, Ego 56V and Greenworks 60V both use 15 cells per series, just as Milwaukee 18V and Dewalt 20V batteries each use 5 cells per series. A 56V battery and a 60V battery are both 54V under load. Ego is only slightly dishonest; Greenworks, more so.
Maybe, but the Ego battery seems to drop more voltage than the 60v did. I measured 51.6v across the terminals with 3 of the 5 lights lit on the "fuel gauge". I'm thinking 13 or 14, but I don't really know. Like I said, I'll have to do more investigating. "Slightly less dishonest" is hilarious 👍
The 60V Greenworks UltraPower is the only one that won't stall when I use it with a 20" bar. I don't know if it is just the cells, or if it's wiring and boards or some other guts in the batteries they upgraded to let it run hotter longer without stalling. Point being that 54V is not always the same even intra-platform. Cheers.
@@ToolHombre I think it's both the 8ah battery and the design. I'm guessing here, but I think because the 60v came out after the 82v, there are a couple of programming tweaks. The 82v doesn't stall nearly as easily with an 8ah battery as it does with a 4 or even a 5ah, but it's pretty heavy with that setup.
@@ToolHombre That's odd, because it's Chervon---maker of Ego, Flex, and Skil---that claims to have the best cooling technology, basically a slim jacket around each series of cells that liquefies to shed heat. I say this as a fanboy of both Skil PWRCore 12 and Greenworks 60V; I own the Greenworks 60V X-Range 18-inch chainsaw, which is a rewired Greenworks Commercial 82V GS-181 (2.5 kilowatts). I use Greenworks' X-Range batteries, which have better electronics, cells, and ruggedness than the standard Greenworks 60V batteries. I've never stalled an X-Range battery---5AH or 2.5AH. I don't own any 8AHs.
@@PaulStregevsky Yes Chervon is another company with some marketing material about their cooling being the best same as everyone else and then their 8Ah overheated. And apparently R.U. heard this happens. And the voltage drop was greater on the 'best cooling' EGO. ???? All I said was the 8Ah Ultrapower doesn't stall and the 'base' 60V batteries do. I haven't tried X-range but it's the same point that they re-wire some of them differently even across GW. Glad to hear there is something smaller than 8Ah in the 60V line they have upgraded. Cheers.
What I love about these comments is that we have finally passed the point where people drop in only to say "battery sux, gas rulez", now we have informed detailed discussion between the growing number of us using battery saws seriously.
But are you using them seriously? Every day all day to make money? I think it will be a while before you see fallers with electric, but electric top handles are amazing for climbing.
@@SlimPickins_07I am. Have tens of thousands of dollars into Ego equipment. Good investment that pays for itself over time.
For good runtime though, you need a Backpack Link and 12Ah batteries.
This chainsaw seems very powerful, more than the Stihl MSA300 which is 3000w and even the Greenworks 82CS34.
On the other hand, the larger the batteries, the heavier the chainsaw.
I agree about the weight of the saw. It reminds me of my Stihl 075 with a 42" bar I had in my younger years.
I agree as well, and it will be even heavier with the appropriate battery, just like the Greenworks.
Hey! Have you heard/seen where EGO is coming out with a 18", and a 16" bar and chain for the CSX5000?
They're already listed at the place where I bought my saw and battery. But they're listed as new for 2024, and there's a button to push for pre-order.
Interesting. As far as I can tell, it's identical to the Oregon guide bar, so this would probably work as well. I'm going to do some chain comparisons eventually.
I just happened to think 🤔 why didn't you/haven't you tested the CS2000 with the 24" bar? I think we both know it will pull it.
@@John-cj3ve I'm working on the 1800 vs 2000 right now. Been very busy lately
Love that test !! Good channel as well i just subscribe
Thank you!!
I love all my ego products (smart load trimmer, hedge trimmer, 765cfm blower, push lawnmower, power station to slowly charge/maintain batteries and have backup power ) but the things I won't swap from battery power are my 18" Echo gas Chainsaw, snow blower and 3200 psi Generac pressure washer
I am mostly in the Greenworks 80/82 volt lineup, but the tools are fairly similar... the chainsaw is what first got me started on cordless tools. I love my husky 372xp, but the ease of most of this battery stuff is what sold me. We'll see what happens when it starts to break, but hopefully I'm years away from that. One of the things I like about Ego is parts availability.
You would think EGO would have done these tests; so that WE didn't have to!
My 12ah battery arrives Monday or Tuesday of next week.
I have to think they did, they just don't want to share info that doesn't look attractive.
Would love to see a similar test but with your eye on the load indicator if you run it at like 75% 80% will it run until the battery is depleted or still overheat
I've had mixed success with a perspective camera, but I'll give it a shot!
Ego really needs to release higher output tabless cell batteries like other tool brands have
100% agree
The voltage of a fully charged 6Ah battery is 57.8v.
Regarding the oil pouring out of the side cover of the EGO: do you think it would help to enlarge the oil hole in the bar to more fully engage the oil port of the saw body?
I would have to look at the alignment again, but that sounds reasonable. At least opening the hole in the direction of the oiling, depending on how you are making it bigger.
I realized that after I sent the comment. Just as likely have to take a Dremel and pointed carbide bit; and elongate the oil channel in the direction of the oil port on the body.
@@reusefullwe're/you're so close; just a finishing touch here and there.
I looked and I couldn't find any 24" Oregon guide bar with an A095 tailstock. I DID find a few 095 ones; but they had a different letter before it. The bar I ordered from Amazon had a tailstock that was too long. It was for a Husqvarna 365 372 Rancher.
The 365/372 is a pro saw as far as I know (mine is a 372xp). You would be looking to match a 455 or 460 rancher guide bar if looking on Amazon. Tailstock isn't often listed there.
Thx. I'll get right on it.
@John-cj3ve sorry if I didn't communicate that correctly earlier.
New territory for all of us. I don't know if I would have attempted it without your constant courteous help.
@@reusefullI just ordered the Oregon bar for the 455 460.
How manny cuts does the green works commercial get with the same log im intrigued?
Depends on the battery, I'm putting together a comparison between the 2 saws. If I run a 5ah battery hard I'll still overheat it on the Greenworks, but not as quickly I don't think. I'm not even going to test a 4ah, because it's not enough.
Man your videos are awesome!
@@bradleybrown7801 Thank you!
I have the ego cs1600 the newer model one how hard do you think itd be to put a 20 inch bar on it
@bradleybrown7801 not sure without looking. You have to match the tailstock to get it to mount and oil properly. If you go on the Oregon website under guide bars, you should be able to match it up. They give pictures and measurements for all the styles they make. Make sure that the guide bar is the same pitch as the drive spur/sprocket. At 20 inches, you can probably get .325 or 3/8 bar to match what is already on the saw. Once you go above 20 inch 3/8 or bigger, but I definitely wouldn't try to go above 20 with the 16 inch saw.
Please post the link to the swapping out of the 'sprocket'. And give the exact name and part number of each of the components; so I don't get the wrong parts.
Let me know if you need anymore detail than what's in the description. I got the sprocket on Amazon. I think you can pay around with sprockets that have larger or smaller outside diameters which will effect output speed and torque inversely according to size... larger diameter sprocket is faster but less torque.
@@reusefull I've never had occasion to change the sprocket on a chainsaw. Idk what's involved. Please explain.
@@John-cj3ve I'm working on editing the video, I should have it published later tonight
@@reusefullThx!
I had to edit the above comment. It was supposed to read name; NOT same.
Doggone predictive text!
...sorry; I hadn't read the description before I posted my comment about the parts list.
That is the first sign of needing a new battery
I'm speculating that EGO KNEW that this powerhead would handle a 24" bar. But ALSO knew; that their battery technology couldn't keep up; and that's the reason for the bar being 'only' 20".
I really think it's all about the weight. To run a big bar, you need a big battery and no one wants to advertise a 25lb chainsaw unless it's able to keep up with a 100cc plus gas equivalent.
@@reusefullI just looked at it from the perspective of; I give up; it's already heavy. What's a couple extra pounds?
You don't really notice the weight THAT much anyway; once the bar is buried in the wood.
@John-cj3ve it doesn't bother me to much either. I have an 82CS24 that I run for smaller stuff and that's pretty light... I think about 13 or 14 pounds ready to cut.
Did you order a genuine EGO battery? If you did; OUCH!
I did, but I got it on Ebay with a charger for $300, I'll sell the extra charger to try and offset the cost.
I guess I'll have to start surfing ebay!@@reusefull
@@John-cj3ve 👍😂
I love battery tools ! But gas will always win !!! If you do it commercially go with gas ! Sometimes you have to use batteries stuff because for example in CA there’s some placers where you can not use gas ! So you are obligated to use battery tools otherwise GAS is the best !
It depends on the application, but I agree that a 372xp and a couple gallons of mixed gas will cut an awful lot of wood.
Wow, even an 8.0 konks out that soon huh? Yeesh, how you suppose to do any amount of cutting if you need to give it a break every few cuts.
I would bet my 40v makita with a 18” could cut that log faster…. I had an ego 18” and it sucked. Threw a chain so hard it lodged in the sprocket cover
@ErinHenderson-lp7ep that's interesting. I have two EGO CS1800's and I have cut up 20" logs with them with no problem.
@@ErinHenderson-lp7ep My experience is the literal opposite. My dad's Makita bogs down INSTANTLY, kind of absurdly easy, my Ego is the opposite.
As I understand it, Ego 56V and Greenworks 60V both use 15 cells per series, just as Milwaukee 18V and Dewalt 20V batteries each use 5 cells per series. A 56V battery and a 60V battery are both 54V under load. Ego is only slightly dishonest; Greenworks, more so.
Maybe, but the Ego battery seems to drop more voltage than the 60v did. I measured 51.6v across the terminals with 3 of the 5 lights lit on the "fuel gauge". I'm thinking 13 or 14, but I don't really know. Like I said, I'll have to do more investigating.
"Slightly less dishonest" is hilarious 👍
The 60V Greenworks UltraPower is the only one that won't stall when I use it with a 20" bar. I don't know if it is just the cells, or if it's wiring and boards or some other guts in the batteries they upgraded to let it run hotter longer without stalling.
Point being that 54V is not always the same even intra-platform.
Cheers.
@@ToolHombre I think it's both the 8ah battery and the design. I'm guessing here, but I think because the 60v came out after the 82v, there are a couple of programming tweaks. The 82v doesn't stall nearly as easily with an 8ah battery as it does with a 4 or even a 5ah, but it's pretty heavy with that setup.
@@ToolHombre That's odd, because it's Chervon---maker of Ego, Flex, and Skil---that claims to have the best cooling technology, basically a slim jacket around each series of cells that liquefies to shed heat. I say this as a fanboy of both Skil PWRCore 12 and Greenworks 60V; I own the Greenworks 60V X-Range 18-inch chainsaw, which is a rewired Greenworks Commercial 82V GS-181 (2.5 kilowatts). I use Greenworks' X-Range batteries, which have better electronics, cells, and ruggedness than the standard Greenworks 60V batteries. I've never stalled an X-Range battery---5AH or 2.5AH. I don't own any 8AHs.
@@PaulStregevsky Yes Chervon is another company with some marketing material about their cooling being the best same as everyone else and then their 8Ah overheated. And apparently R.U. heard this happens. And the voltage drop was greater on the 'best cooling' EGO.
????
All I said was the 8Ah Ultrapower doesn't stall and the 'base' 60V batteries do.
I haven't tried X-range but it's the same point that they re-wire some of them differently even across GW. Glad to hear there is something smaller than 8Ah in the 60V line they have upgraded.
Cheers.
It just doesn't seem impressive. With a commercial grade anything it should be able to cut for 8 hours this would be a weak machine outing the field .
I get way more cuts than you bro . Don't peg the load