Anybody watching this, concerned about getting a manual, with the so called offset pedals. Don’t be. They are offset, ever so slightly, but not in anyway problematic. I took a manual out on test today, very comfortable car, soon get used to slight difference in feel. Barely noticeable. The way it’s described in some videos, that you feel like your feet are out of the car, or twisted is a massive exaggeration. I went through all the gears nicely, and operated the clutch comfortably. The only noticeably difference is having less room to rest your foot when you’re not accelerating. Go auto if you want an auto, but don’t do it based on the offset pedals comments. Try it for yourself.
I've had a 320 sport for the best part of 5 years now and its never disappointed me on a run. Travelling from the South West to Bergen in Belgium on a full tank of fuel and back again topping up UK side of the euro tunnel on the return leg. Awesome car :-)
I have never noticed the offset pedals, and tbh I think this is pretty much imaginary, your legs move side to side so it really doesn't affect anything 99% of the time. And how often are both your feet actually on them at once? Other than changing gear, they aren't. I wish reviewers would stop this imaginary gripe.
I have had my 320ix for 9 months and it`s a fun car to drive. The engine is very peppy and in sport it has plenty of power for me. I have the sport package that is a deal that makes car even more agile with the 18 inch tires. I had a 2011 328ix with the inline 6 and I don`t miss the added power that comes at a price in poor gas milage compared to this turbo 4 with over 30 miles a gallon so far. I get a kick out of the haters bitching about BMW mechanical issues. The car comes with a 4 year 50,000 mile all included service plan that is all you can ask for. When I get near that 50,000 limit I`ll trade her in for a new one like I did with my 2011. BMW treats you like you want to be treated and more so it`s worth the little more you pay. Both times I bought program cars with 4,000miles that knocked $5,000 off the sticker of $39,500 bringing the price down to something I could handle. I have enjoyed my experience with the 3 series the last 4 years and plan to continue loving my baby Beemer.
This is one of the reviews that helped me make up my mind to get a 320d , love it, my first diesel also, been very happy with it even though its a lower spec SE model , its a great drive, comfortable frugal, and solid , i reckon i made the right choice.
Tyrone I have driven the 328i and own the 328d (that's what the 320d is named in the U.S.). Both are great cars. If acceleration matters more to you then get the 328i if you want better MPGs get the 328d (320d). I will say that even though the 328i is faster, the 328d is no slouch. I have no problem getting up to speed on the highway.
Roman N good point mate.if the chain will brake or the plastik piece where he is slying in,it will result in engine big damages,that can leave even to replace all engine.plus that,the brave engineers put the distribution....in the back of the engine.so....if you want to change distribution,you must take the all engine out.not so smart...haaaa?
I second that. Before the stupid RFTs, the turbocharging and bland styling. The E36 and E46 were amazing BMWs. They were tight, solid, great handling and had that simple yet substantial feel when driving them plus they were beautiful to look at.
I personally think BMWs look better than Audis. If you want a driver's car, get a BMW. If you want a comfortable car, get a Merc. I would personally never opt for an Audi.
The engine isn't smaller, it still is the 2.0 liter diesel, only with 116bhp (316d) or 143bhp (318d) instead of the 184bhp of the 320d. My father's 318d F31 (so the Touring) hasn't got 1000miles (that means that the engine isn't runnig at its best yet) but already does around 55/60mpg, while travelling with the boot very full. That's impressive.
Agreed. Having had both, this is so true. Runflats + sporty = harsh but fun ride. Merc "floats" to your destination. :) Both wonderful, its like chosing between blone and brunette :)
Tuddec BMW's are like any other car with fusebox and far to many electric things to go wrong Simple cars tend to be the most reliable with less things to go wrong , like Dacias
Don't get me wrong the only few things which never brakedown in a vehicle was the manual handbrake and the steering , the handbrake is becoming electric in most new cars is far less reliable There is no evidence to suggest a electric steering with no shaft is more reliable than the current one which *never brakes down* if is not broken don't fix it !!!
Luka Lazarevic nothing is indestructible your granddad's vehicle probably has seen better days electric HandBrake's become faulty way before you become a granddad
the new headlamps will take some getting used to, but bmw will always be top of this class in terms of handling. all the interior stuff is all good alterations, but in all honesty I wouldn't bother with a diesel as it takes some of the joy of driving it away. go with a manual and petrol version and you'll have no regrets, in fact.. i'd like one myself :)
Actually BMW is better than Audi in dependability from J.D Power's report. But I agree with you that Audi has better interior. I am a Chinese, lots of Audi users in China report the the Audi 2.0T (EA888) engine costs engine oil, a lot! Some unlucky cars cost 1L engine oil every 5000 km! But I hate to say this model of engines are assembled in China (if you know what I mean). Don't know if this happens in other countries. I love Audi better than BMW, but I would go for a Lexus for myself.
If you think performance and MPG is the only thing going for the BMW then I suggest you actually watch this video and compare it to his review of the A4. The BMW's chassis is in another league to the A4. Driving a BMW and driving an Audi are just leagues apart from each other. The A4 looks the same as it has been for 8 years and it's getting tired. BMW have given the 3 series some muscle which makes it look fresh and sharp. Much better interior? Hardly. More spacious? Perhaps.
First, there comes the prestige of the name badging. Comparing Hyundai to a BMW is like comparing an apple with an orange, it's just not on the same level. If the naming is not something to consider, have you ever even driven a BMW? The transmission on the genesis are crap and their cornering is very weak. Also, the 328i outperforms the genesis on the track while achieving a much higher fuel economy. The interior of hyundai's are also a joke.
dingbat, they are aimed at two different markets. BMW is a drivers car for hooligans, and people who talk about 0-60 in the pub with the friends (ie small genitalia). Mercedes is for people with class, who like to get from A to B in comfort. Joking aside, you realise they are both excellent but for different jobs? I loved my BMW Z4. Built like a tank. But I love my Merc Coupe, lovely comfortable ride, less fatiuging to drive. Runflats + BMW = fail in the UK, as UK has terrible roads.
Be more specific. For instance, you can't compare a 328i to a C180, the 328i is better, so it's gonna costs more. Bimmer is not better going through cones only, it has a better fuel economy, it's usually faster e the technology in this last car is breathtaking. Yes, MB really usually is cheaper than BMW, but that 18,000 dollars save you mentioned I just can't see how it could be possible.
Because diesel is burned more, there is less harmful waste being thrown out the exhaust pipe, which means less CO2. I don't know what gave you the idea that I live in the US. I live in Europe, and I find the air here most exhilarating. the only time I saw a slight bit of pollution is Brussels, and I'm not even sure of that. If the idiot's particulate filter in a modern diesel hasn't been maintained, the car electronically limit the engine until he takes it to the garage
Thank you for attacking me at hominem in stead of just arguing my previous post. Clean diesel is even worse than old diesel engines as the particulate matter particles are even smaller and can penetrate deeper into the lungs. Mining for battery materials is indeed a filthy business but it's more controlable than emitting lethal PM in city centers. Ordinary petrol engines, using unleaded petrol, emit 50x less PM than diesel engines.
@MikeRelvas did you drive audi rs4 , or did you ewen see the rs 6 ? , maybe audi a6 3.0 supercharged.. but if you realy whant fun , take some shity car , and drive it fast , that is always more triling then some realy good car xD you newer know whats going to happen. ps. whats wrong with r8 ? :) i lowe bmw dont think i dont .. but audi is more sensable thing .. Audi Quatro is faster in the corners than the same class bmw X- driwe.. + drive rwd on snow .. FWD maybe 90% of cars, nothing wrong.
Thanks mate 4 Listening your youtube community, everyone wanted you to rewiew the new 3 series, including me. and thanks, nice job! BUT now, can you doo the NEW KIA OPTIMA . And maybe compare with bmw .What do you get 4 the same amount of money. Base 3 series in serbia 320d is around 32 000eand for 32000e you can get loaded optima , with , sat naw , heated front and rear seats , electric sun roof.. infiniti sound , aloys , etc.. etc . And can you say what would you rader have? base Bmw or kia?
Sorry go check J.D Power's report again kid. Also, I get free maintenance and servicing up to 70 thousand miles. Also, I've had friends who have owned BMW everyone talks about how bad they are. I'am not gonna answer that johhny kid, he's an idiot. I considered Lexus actually, both the new ES and GS but something about Audi just seems more special man.
@LASR71 really? That's funny. Your comment proves that beauty is indeed in the eyeof the beholder. I currently own a E46 and am actually thinking of hanging on to it for a few years to skip to F30. I hate E90 except for the coup version. I hate its looks and I specially hate its ugly cheap looking dashboard. Funny. Huh?
This is the ugliest BMW 3 series who ever the designer was was not original when he thought of this taken style from the previous gen 3 serious and having a back of the 5 series wth was he/she thinking the only thing they added was putting the side blinker on the mirror and pitting a cut out beside the kidney grille
how so ? I drove the c 350 and own the bmw 335i they are not similiar at all, the bmw is really fun fast aggressive tight steering..the mercedes has a loose steering wheel hard seats less aggressive can't take turns AT ALL ! i mean Im not knocking them but mercedes C class is just a standard car with a Mercedes badge
Nothing is burned as extensively as diesel fuel. And industrial processes are much easier to control than some idiot's non-maintained diesel car engine. Also, don't tell me what I should and shouldn't do. It's too easy to attack someone from behind a computer keyboard. You live in the US, you don't know what diesel cars have done to air quality in European cities.
Are you trolling or are you terribly misinformed? Any 2012 328i with the standard turbocharged inline 4 does 0-60 in 5.5 seconds, while the Santa Fe barely gets to 60 in about 8.3 seconds. You can't compare any new BMW's performance or refinement to that of a Hyundai SUV, I mean come on. This IS a premium car and the 2012 model is marvelous.
@stardustneuron Audis just understeer. And X-Drive always beats Quattro in comparison. BMW's are better for sporty drivers, i mean look at the weight distribution, they always go for 50/50. Then look at Audi, with their engines in front of the axle. Just noseheavy like nothing. I had an A4 and i loved it, but the 3 Series was always better to drive.
That is a pity to listen to. I was disappointed going from a 2001 E39 (interior looked like a luxury hall) to a 2008 318i E90, whose interior looked cheap in comparison. So if what you say is how it is...I am headed towards C Class sometime from now...thank you for the comment.
I know this interior is way better than the E90´s, which for me was dissapointing, but can´t get to terms with that FUGLY nose the three series has...when I update I seriously would love a C class, it simply oozes quality. And this comes from a "fanboy-man" for BMW for more than 20 years...
Hi, I live in Belgium and just (via website) fully loaded a Merc C250 CDI and a BMW 320d, and the bmw is almost 10 000 euro cheaper ( for you that's 12 k $). If I compare the C220 CDI to the 320d the merc is about 1000 euro cheaper. I would take the BMW over the Merc anyday.
Wait, what... have you even watched the video? The only other saloon car in Europe that has rear wheel drive and that can offer sporty driving in this size and price range, is the mercedes c-class. So what do you mean with "just another car"? There's only two.
NOTE TO AUTO MAKERS; FIX THE RIGHT HAND DRIVE ,AND STEERING WHEEL PLACEMENT. ON a Maserati the pedals are SO close together, heel and toeing, are VERY EASY. Hitting the break on a QUATTROPORTE, YOU CAN HIT THE BREAK AND GAS AT THE SAME TIME. Mostly when just starting out, like me. :)
this block is completely unpartial.i mean no one said anything bad about the new 3 series but this man spotted out the practical flaws of this beamer.having said still it is the segment winner. king is dead and long live the king
I heard that cars are cheaper in the US, so I compared a 328i luxury from US website to a less equiped 328i luxery to a belgian website and the price difference is 10.000 euro!! And I live 700 km from Bayern! Still love this car though!
BMW diesels do trundle loudly at idling speeds but their statistics are unbeatable. The new 325d 2 litre diesel packs a whopping 218bhp and 450nm torque and can still bring back OVER 50 mpg on a combined cycle and less than 130g CO2/km, beat that!!!
@MYRMIDONofTHESSALIAE Nothing female about s600, s63, and s65. I had a 03 s600 with 500hpb at 1500 rmp. Bmw has very had engines like that. S65 is even more wild. Bmw and audi are nice cars but they lack the history and tradition of a benz.
I'd love to know where you got the idea from that it is "well known that Audi has superior handling". How about I show you how the opposite true and I watch your jaw drop to the floor, yes? :D th-cam.com/video/1h5Lff7GbbU/w-d-xo.html
Compare BMW with Hyundai is the same that gold with brass or in another way, Hyundai never will match the quality, performance, driving pleasure, efficiency that each BMW have. Which you prefer M5 or genesis 3.8?
Hyundai is far from taking anything from BMW, if you want to compare a car on a similar powerband, then compare the 335i with the hyundai. Wait you can't, because the 335 would destroy the hyundai in all aspects.
electrical power steering. Scenario -> Battery make a shortcircuit, how you control the steeringwheel without electricity from the battery ? You cant you fall in a banch and flip over, thats why a hidraulic one is better
you are watching a video with a BMW why did you write audi a4 ...yes we all know that it is a fwd boring to drive car in comparison to the bmw yet it is as expansive but dose your comment has to do with the video?
- All the sedans are locally produced by Benz and the even the BMW has started to locally produce the 3 series and 5 series, 7 series comes as a CKD and its still cheaper then the locally assembled S Class
Because the stereotypical BMW driver is a jerk who wears gigantic Oakleys and a bluetooth headset. Also, I can hardly consider this a premium car, consider it accelerates slower than the Hyundai Santa Fe...
I think the statement "best engines in the entire world" is a bit incorrect. I stand by that the BMW may be the best driving and handling cars in the segments, but Lexus engines and Honda engines are the best engines.
Hello Matt, why have you reviewed almost every car, except the Volvo V70? I see the Volvo V70 alot in Holland, but there isn't almost any review about it, why is that? p.s. sorry for my poor english, i'm only 14
The pedals being offset to the right is the deal breaker for me. And having a large transmission is bad enough, but in this car you can't even rest your feet on it. All these show very bad interior consideration
i think you noticed that i am talking about C class not all MBenz's cateogories , and i wanna say clearly that mercedes failed in making a luxurious small cars C, B class in comparison with BMW.......
I respect that, but I can´t love it, looks like a damn humpback whale...I watched an E90 and an F30 side by side on a traffic light, and from a profile perspective the E90 looks way better. I miss it.
How cannot you compare a powerful 350hp machine with brembo brakes and tack suspension vs a 200 something hp pice of shit that grandmas like to drive? :D There you go... the ultimate driving machine.
Fair enough. My fault: I have to improve my english...(verb+presosition = drive spanish people crazy!!!) I understood it was something about the configuration, not the position of them. Thank you,
HI watch the review again it explains how the pedals are not in line with the steering and seating position. Had that problem with a lexus is200 b4, now i have sciatica from prolonged driving. thanks
i am sorry...but we dont take too kindly of Belgians in the US (lol)....jokes aside, i believe that bmw is much better than mercedes even though i dive a ford :( ....feel free to fund me a bmw
No, name one thing about this car that is out of the ordinary, fun, inspirational, or new. This car offers nothing different from it's competitors and it's just another boring business executives car.
For a expensive car, is too bad seeing metal and cables in the boot @ 3:54 And come on, in these Fxx models, i only liked the 5-series F10. BMW design needs to back to something like E46 times.
well yes because he loves the fact that it is the only car in its class with 50-50 weight distribution and rwd and fast and more economical than a merc:)...bmw=fun and comfort;merc=comfort
- In India the Benz are more expensive by a decent margin even though they are locally produced, that's why my family went in for two BMW 7series and one 3 series over the benz ..
@derbigpr500 Haha yeah true. My mom's considering this bmw 3 series and the merc c-class, but the merc has the offset problem for the steering wheel >.< German makes are strange..
318 and 316 is still a 2 litre engine. i should know cuz my 316 is a 2 litre. Only difference between them is the bhp nowadays. Badge at the back means fuck all nowadays
c class is competition but the 3 series has always been best in class you can argue which is better in different classes but in its class the 3 series remains king.
Anybody watching this, concerned about getting a manual, with the so called offset pedals. Don’t be. They are offset, ever so slightly, but not in anyway problematic. I took a manual out on test today, very comfortable car, soon get used to slight difference in feel. Barely noticeable. The way it’s described in some videos, that you feel like your feet are out of the car, or twisted is a massive exaggeration. I went through all the gears nicely, and operated the clutch comfortably. The only noticeably difference is having less room to rest your foot when you’re not accelerating. Go auto if you want an auto, but don’t do it based on the offset pedals comments. Try it for yourself.
a bit late but there is no justification for why you would choose a manual over the best in the market auto transmission system there is
Have to say, The 3 series is the best looking from its class.
@Costel Coaie Yes
@Costel Coaie C Class looks classier, however the 3 series looks tougher.
Jaguar XE looks the best in this class!
@@Zunimassa97 yeah C Class always looks classier but 3 series always has the sporty and in my opinion better look.
@@Zunimassa97c class is taxi car. 3 serie for driving😂
" it`s gonna take a while .. there`s quite a lot of them " ---> cue tractor noise 0:58
I've got a F30 320d & it's completely faultless what a brilliant car
How’s it holding up? I don’t know if I should buy one because of the timing chain issue
Zaker I only recently bought one, 150k miles on it, chain done, runs perfectly, great car.
@@davolyncho5992 who buys 150k mile bmw. I bought my x5 from 2011 with 30k
@@adamhussain2220 I do, it’s near mint, hasn’t had 1 issue, it’s perfect. As long as you look after a car you should get 250,000 miles out of it easy.
@@davolyncho5992 idk I probo just have ocd as I think that the seats are crapp over 100k and it’s bound to break down
I've had a 320 sport for the best part of 5 years now and its never disappointed me on a run. Travelling from the South West to Bergen in Belgium on a full tank of fuel and back again topping up UK side of the euro tunnel on the return leg. Awesome car :-)
Man now your in carwow
made a downpayment on a used f30 320d. Hopefully my car is gonna be great!
How is it treating you?
he had an accident @@rogernkosi8420
Have fun with the new diesel law 😂
Historia w 5 minut ...co
just got mine today in white really happy with it
Does anyone else find, that at least the 320d has very little steering feel? Even in the Sport and Sport+ modes, it just alters the steering weight.
I have never noticed the offset pedals, and tbh I think this is pretty much imaginary, your legs move side to side so it really doesn't affect anything 99% of the time. And how often are both your feet actually on them at once? Other than changing gear, they aren't. I wish reviewers would stop this imaginary gripe.
I have had my 320ix for 9 months and it`s a fun car to drive. The engine is very peppy and in sport it has plenty of power for me. I have the sport package that is a deal that makes car even more agile with the 18 inch tires. I had a 2011 328ix with the inline 6 and I don`t miss the added power that comes at a price in poor gas milage compared to this turbo 4 with over 30 miles a gallon so far. I get a kick out of the haters bitching about BMW mechanical issues. The car comes with a 4 year 50,000 mile all included service plan that is all you can ask for. When I get near that 50,000 limit I`ll trade her in for a new one like I did with my 2011. BMW treats you like you want to be treated and more so it`s worth the little more you pay. Both times I bought program cars with 4,000miles that knocked $5,000 off the sticker of $39,500 bringing the price down to something I could handle. I have enjoyed my experience with the 3 series the last 4 years and plan to continue loving my baby Beemer.
When are you Brits going to admit that you drive on the wrong side?
This is one of the reviews that helped me make up my mind to get a 320d , love it, my first diesel also, been very happy with it even though its a lower spec SE model , its a great drive, comfortable frugal, and solid , i reckon i made the right choice.
How’s it treated you
@billy - still love it?
You had any problem with this car?is it reliable?
May aswell be 62mpg and 7.5 seconds, BUT, not at the same time. :D
I have a 320d Lixury auto. Had it 4 years now. Not a fault ever once. Drives brilliantly. Rock solid driving and comfort.
this over c class any day and a4 even though i love audi u gotta admit bmw takes the win in this category
You forgot to mention how light and agile it feels despite the fact that its actually slightly heavier than e90,e90 just felt so heavy
I'm a proud owner of a BMW 328i and I have to say, I absolutely love it!
Tyrone I have driven the 328i and own the 328d (that's what the 320d is named in the U.S.). Both are great cars. If acceleration matters more to you then get the 328i if you want better MPGs get the 328d (320d). I will say that even though the 328i is faster, the 328d is no slouch. I have no problem getting up to speed on the highway.
biggun2188 i believe the theres a 320d in the US, the only difference is the 328d having more power
mercedes = taxi. germans turn their noses up at them. bmw are always better than merc, better looking and better build quality.
Boxing glove in the glovebox...lol.
Remember when they told us all to buy diesels
lol
Is that BMW SOS button specially made for 320d N47 engine which is prone to timing chain problems? :D
Roman N good point mate.if the chain will brake or the plastik piece where he is slying in,it will result in engine big damages,that can leave even to replace all engine.plus that,the brave engineers put the distribution....in the back of the engine.so....if you want to change distribution,you must take the all engine out.not so smart...haaaa?
Getting my f30 335d drive in 3 weeks!!!!
CarWOW?
Outstanding review Matt! Ur awesome man! GLOVE box inside glove box was to damn funny! Hahaha the new 3 series will sell like hotcakes!
I love this BMW 3 series, it's look sporty, very nice exterior design!😍
I second that. Before the stupid RFTs, the turbocharging and bland styling. The E36 and E46 were amazing BMWs. They were tight, solid, great handling and had that simple yet substantial feel when driving them plus they were beautiful to look at.
Bmw audis an mercs are amazing
If u want looks u go for audi driving u go for bmw an style u go for mercs
I personally think BMWs look better than Audis.
If you want a driver's car, get a BMW.
If you want a comfortable car, get a Merc.
I would personally never opt for an Audi.
Interiors in audis are some of the best
Heard these 3 series got a timing chain issue around 70000 or 80000 miles
Thanks Mat for another great review! I have a 2013 328i and love it!!
Brian
he is matt watson from carwow
The engine isn't smaller, it still is the 2.0 liter diesel, only with 116bhp (316d) or 143bhp (318d) instead of the 184bhp of the 320d. My father's 318d F31 (so the Touring) hasn't got 1000miles (that means that the engine isn't runnig at its best yet) but already does around 55/60mpg, while travelling with the boot very full. That's impressive.
who brings a boxing glove to a car review?
Awww look, its a baby Matt Watson
Agreed. Having had both, this is so true. Runflats + sporty = harsh but fun ride. Merc "floats" to your destination. :) Both wonderful, its like chosing between blone and brunette :)
Hired a 2014 320d for a month and drove it all over the UK , really lovely car and everyone loved it, neighbours, girls I pick, strangers
+greathey1234 that's sport version, not m sport
might get this car
Different colour tho
I love my e36. If I had money i'd buy this one though :)
Still got mine after 10 years (150,000 miles)
Still loving in !! 😊
How do you maintain it? That's incredible
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One of the best looking cars out there! Great job BMW!
What does everyone think off the BMW 3 series 318i auto 2008 UK?
I hope their diesel's sound gets toned down in the future :D A 320d will always be at the top end of my real world dream car list ^^
lol n47 diesel engine is really the worst choice in bmw
Great 😊
Yeah right, everyone knows a Ford Mondeo is better than a BMW 3 series...
Why but a big car, when you can buy smaller car that can feel like a luxury limo on the motorway, and a sports car around town 🤣its love leeeeee.
The BOXING GLOVE made my day HAHAHAHA
What Happen if the Fuse goes on this new Fancy Electric Steering while you are in the motorway doing 70 MPH ? 01:56
Dude it's a BMW not a Dacia, that won't happen.
Tuddec BMW's are like any other car with fusebox and far to many electric things to go wrong Simple cars tend to be the most reliable with less things to go wrong , like Dacias
Don't get me wrong the only few things which never brakedown in a vehicle was the manual handbrake and the steering , the handbrake is becoming electric in most new cars is far less reliable
There is no evidence to suggest a electric steering with no shaft is more reliable than the current one which *never brakes down* if is not broken don't fix it !!!
+SuperNiceguy60 On my granddads Yugo, manual handbrake doesnt work! :D
Luka Lazarevic nothing is indestructible your granddad's vehicle probably has seen better days
electric HandBrake's become faulty way before you become a granddad
Excellent review Matt. This car will give the C-Class a run for its money.
I have heard a lot of reviewers praise the F30 but that it's driving dynamics are not as precise as the E90. Any thoughts?
the new headlamps will take some getting used to, but bmw will always be top of this class in terms of handling. all the interior stuff is all good alterations, but in all honesty I wouldn't bother with a diesel as it takes some of the joy of driving it away. go with a manual and petrol version and you'll have no regrets, in fact.. i'd like one myself :)
Actually BMW is better than Audi in dependability from J.D Power's report. But I agree with you that Audi has better interior.
I am a Chinese, lots of Audi users in China report the the Audi 2.0T (EA888) engine costs engine oil, a lot! Some unlucky cars cost 1L engine oil every 5000 km! But I hate to say this model of engines are assembled in China (if you know what I mean). Don't know if this happens in other countries.
I love Audi better than BMW, but I would go for a Lexus for myself.
If you think performance and MPG is the only thing going for the BMW then I suggest you actually watch this video and compare it to his review of the A4. The BMW's chassis is in another league to the A4. Driving a BMW and driving an Audi are just leagues apart from each other.
The A4 looks the same as it has been for 8 years and it's getting tired. BMW have given the 3 series some muscle which makes it look fresh and sharp.
Much better interior? Hardly. More spacious? Perhaps.
First, there comes the prestige of the name badging. Comparing Hyundai to a BMW is like comparing an apple with an orange, it's just not on the same level. If the naming is not something to consider, have you ever even driven a BMW? The transmission on the genesis are crap and their cornering is very weak. Also, the 328i outperforms the genesis on the track while achieving a much higher fuel economy. The interior of hyundai's are also a joke.
dingbat, they are aimed at two different markets.
BMW is a drivers car for hooligans, and people who talk about 0-60 in the pub with the friends (ie small genitalia). Mercedes is for people with class, who like to get from A to B in comfort. Joking aside, you realise they are both excellent but for different jobs?
I loved my BMW Z4. Built like a tank. But I love my Merc Coupe, lovely comfortable ride, less fatiuging to drive. Runflats + BMW = fail in the UK, as UK has terrible roads.
Be more specific. For instance, you can't compare a 328i to a C180, the 328i is better, so it's gonna costs more. Bimmer is not better going through cones only, it has a better fuel economy, it's usually faster e the technology in this last car is breathtaking. Yes, MB really usually is cheaper than BMW, but that 18,000 dollars save you mentioned I just can't see how it could be possible.
Because diesel is burned more, there is less harmful waste being thrown out the exhaust pipe, which means less CO2. I don't know what gave you the idea that I live in the US. I live in Europe, and I find the air here most exhilarating. the only time I saw a slight bit of pollution is Brussels, and I'm not even sure of that. If the idiot's particulate filter in a modern diesel hasn't been maintained, the car electronically limit the engine until he takes it to the garage
Thank you for attacking me at hominem in stead of just arguing my previous post. Clean diesel is even worse than old diesel engines as the particulate matter particles are even smaller and can penetrate deeper into the lungs. Mining for battery materials is indeed a filthy business but it's more controlable than emitting lethal PM in city centers. Ordinary petrol engines, using unleaded petrol, emit 50x less PM than diesel engines.
@MikeRelvas did you drive audi rs4 , or did you ewen see the rs 6 ? , maybe audi a6 3.0 supercharged..
but if you realy whant fun , take some shity car , and drive it fast , that is always more triling then some realy good car xD you newer know whats going to happen.
ps. whats wrong with r8 ? :)
i lowe bmw dont think i dont .. but audi is more sensable thing ..
Audi Quatro is faster in the corners than the same class bmw X- driwe.. + drive rwd on snow ..
FWD maybe 90% of cars, nothing wrong.
Thanks mate 4 Listening your youtube community,
everyone wanted you to rewiew the new 3 series, including me.
and thanks, nice job!
BUT now, can you doo the NEW KIA OPTIMA .
And maybe compare with bmw .What do you get 4 the same amount of money.
Base 3 series in serbia 320d is around 32 000eand for 32000e you can get loaded optima , with , sat naw , heated front and rear seats , electric sun roof.. infiniti sound , aloys , etc.. etc .
And can you say what would you rader have? base Bmw or kia?
This was when matts job was Car Buyer but now its Carwow
Sorry go check J.D Power's report again kid. Also, I get free maintenance and servicing up to 70 thousand miles. Also, I've had friends who have owned BMW everyone talks about how bad they are.
I'am not gonna answer that johhny kid, he's an idiot. I considered Lexus actually, both the new ES and GS but something about Audi just seems more special man.
@LASR71 really? That's funny. Your comment proves that beauty is indeed in the eyeof the beholder. I currently own a E46 and am actually thinking of hanging on to it for a few years to skip to F30. I hate E90 except for the coup version. I hate its looks and I specially hate its ugly cheap looking dashboard. Funny. Huh?
This is the ugliest BMW 3 series who ever the designer was was not original when he thought of this taken style from the previous gen 3 serious and having a back of the 5 series wth was he/she thinking the only thing they added was putting the side blinker on the mirror and pitting a cut out beside the kidney grille
how so ? I drove the c 350 and own the bmw 335i they are not similiar at all, the bmw is really fun fast aggressive tight steering..the mercedes has a loose steering wheel hard seats less aggressive can't take turns AT ALL ! i mean Im not knocking them but mercedes C class is just a standard car with a Mercedes badge
Nothing is burned as extensively as diesel fuel. And industrial processes are much easier to control than some idiot's non-maintained diesel car engine. Also, don't tell me what I should and shouldn't do. It's too easy to attack someone from behind a computer keyboard. You live in the US, you don't know what diesel cars have done to air quality in European cities.
Are you trolling or are you terribly misinformed? Any 2012 328i with the standard turbocharged inline 4 does 0-60 in 5.5 seconds, while the Santa Fe barely gets to 60 in about 8.3 seconds. You can't compare any new BMW's performance or refinement to that of a Hyundai SUV, I mean come on. This IS a premium car and the 2012 model is marvelous.
@stardustneuron Audis just understeer.
And X-Drive always beats Quattro in comparison.
BMW's are better for sporty drivers, i mean look at the weight distribution, they always go for 50/50. Then look at Audi, with their engines in front of the axle. Just noseheavy like nothing. I had an A4 and i loved it, but the 3 Series was always better to drive.
That is a pity to listen to. I was disappointed going from a 2001 E39 (interior looked like a luxury hall) to a 2008 318i E90, whose interior looked cheap in comparison. So if what you say is how it is...I am headed towards C Class sometime from now...thank you for the comment.
I know this interior is way better than the E90´s, which for me was dissapointing, but can´t get to terms with that FUGLY nose the three series has...when I update I seriously would love a C class, it simply oozes quality. And this comes from a "fanboy-man" for BMW for more than 20 years...
Hi, I live in Belgium and just (via website) fully loaded a Merc C250 CDI and a BMW 320d, and the bmw is almost 10 000 euro cheaper ( for you that's 12 k $). If I compare the C220 CDI to the 320d the merc is about 1000 euro cheaper. I would take the BMW over the Merc anyday.
Wait, what... have you even watched the video? The only other saloon car in Europe that has rear wheel drive and that can offer sporty driving in this size and price range, is the mercedes c-class. So what do you mean with "just another car"? There's only two.
NOTE TO AUTO MAKERS; FIX THE RIGHT HAND DRIVE ,AND STEERING WHEEL PLACEMENT. ON a Maserati the pedals are SO close together, heel and toeing, are VERY EASY. Hitting the break on a QUATTROPORTE, YOU CAN HIT THE BREAK AND GAS AT THE SAME TIME. Mostly when just starting out, like me. :)
this block is completely unpartial.i mean no one said anything bad about the new 3 series but this man spotted out the practical flaws of this beamer.having said still it is the segment winner.
king is dead and long live the king
I heard that cars are cheaper in the US, so I compared a 328i luxury from US website to a less equiped 328i luxery to a belgian website and the price difference is 10.000 euro!! And I live 700 km from Bayern! Still love this car though!
BMW diesels do trundle loudly at idling speeds but their statistics are unbeatable. The new 325d 2 litre diesel packs a whopping 218bhp and 450nm torque and can still bring back OVER 50 mpg on a combined cycle and less than 130g CO2/km, beat that!!!
@MYRMIDONofTHESSALIAE Nothing female about s600, s63, and s65. I had a 03 s600 with 500hpb at 1500 rmp. Bmw has very had engines like that. S65 is even more wild. Bmw and audi are nice cars but they lack the history and tradition of a benz.
I'd love to know where you got the idea from that it is "well known that Audi has superior handling".
How about I show you how the opposite true and I watch your jaw drop to the floor, yes? :D
th-cam.com/video/1h5Lff7GbbU/w-d-xo.html
Compare BMW with Hyundai is the same that gold with brass or in another way, Hyundai never will match the quality, performance, driving pleasure, efficiency that each BMW have.
Which you prefer M5 or genesis 3.8?
Hyundai is far from taking anything from BMW, if you want to compare a car on a similar powerband, then compare the 335i with the hyundai. Wait you can't, because the 335 would destroy the hyundai in all aspects.
electrical power steering. Scenario -> Battery make a shortcircuit, how you control the steeringwheel without electricity from the battery ? You cant you fall in a banch and flip over, thats why a hidraulic one is better
you are watching a video with a BMW why did you write audi a4 ...yes we all know that it is a fwd boring to drive car in comparison to the bmw yet it is as expansive but dose your comment has to do with the video?
- All the sedans are locally produced by Benz and the even the BMW has started to locally produce the 3 series and 5 series, 7 series comes as a CKD and its still cheaper then the locally assembled S Class
Because the stereotypical BMW driver is a jerk who wears gigantic Oakleys and a bluetooth headset. Also, I can hardly consider this a premium car, consider it accelerates slower than the Hyundai Santa Fe...
I think the statement "best engines in the entire world" is a bit incorrect. I stand by that the BMW may be the best driving and handling cars in the segments, but Lexus engines and Honda engines are the best engines.
Hello Matt,
why have you reviewed almost every car, except the Volvo V70? I see the Volvo V70 alot in Holland, but there isn't almost any review about it, why is that?
p.s. sorry for my poor english, i'm only 14
The pedals being offset to the right is the deal breaker for me. And having a large transmission is bad enough, but in this car you can't even rest your feet on it. All these show very bad interior consideration
He's informative yes, very infact, but he doesnt drive them. So you cant really compare them.
i think you noticed that i am talking about C class not all MBenz's cateogories , and i wanna say clearly that mercedes failed in making a luxurious small cars C, B class in comparison with BMW.......
I respect that, but I can´t love it, looks like a damn humpback whale...I watched an E90 and an F30 side by side on a traffic light, and from a profile perspective the E90 looks way better. I miss it.
How cannot you compare a powerful 350hp machine with brembo brakes and tack suspension vs a 200 something hp pice of shit that grandmas like to drive? :D There you go... the ultimate driving machine.
Fair enough. My fault: I have to improve my english...(verb+presosition = drive spanish people crazy!!!) I understood it was something about the configuration, not the position of them.
Thank you,
HI
watch the review again it explains how the pedals are not in line with the steering and seating position. Had that problem with a lexus is200 b4, now i have sciatica from prolonged driving.
thanks
i am sorry...but we dont take too kindly of Belgians in the US (lol)....jokes aside, i believe that bmw is much better than mercedes even though i dive a ford :( ....feel free to fund me a bmw
No, name one thing about this car that is out of the ordinary, fun, inspirational, or new. This car offers nothing different from it's competitors and it's just another boring business executives car.
For a expensive car, is too bad seeing metal and cables in the boot @ 3:54
And come on, in these Fxx models, i only liked the 5-series F10.
BMW design needs to back to something like E46 times.
I can't wait for the day I can get one of these!
Hi, the BMW is so cheap right now! Just make sure you are aware of the timing chain issue and don’t buy from a guy that’s floored the car 🚗
@@zaker600 Even 3 series from 2017 onward have the same problem with the timing chain?
well yes because he loves the fact that it is the only car in its class with 50-50 weight distribution and rwd and fast and more economical than a merc:)...bmw=fun and comfort;merc=comfort
- In India the Benz are more expensive by a decent margin even though they are locally produced, that's why my family went in for two BMW 7series and one 3 series over the benz ..
@derbigpr500 Haha yeah true. My mom's considering this bmw 3 series and the merc c-class, but the merc has the offset problem for the steering wheel >.< German makes are strange..
318 and 316 is still a 2 litre engine. i should know cuz my 316 is a 2 litre. Only difference between them is the bhp nowadays. Badge at the back means fuck all nowadays
c class is competition but the 3 series has always been best in class you can argue which is better in different classes but in its class the 3 series remains king.