World of Tanks - Stark Strv S1 Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ต.ค. 2024
- I take at look at the second of the two new Swedish premiums, the tier 8 tank destroyer, the Stark Strv S1.
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Regarding the armour you can bounce 90mm and lower of the front of the tank. Over matching will occur with guns 91mm in calibre and above. It is possible to bounce bigger guns, but only on the small patch of thicker armour on the front where the 2 track pieces are.
The armor setup on this is an automatic richochet for any AP or APCR of 90mm in caliber or less everywhere on the front. Overmatch mecanics actually require you to have 1mm higher caliber than 3x the armor value. You can quite comfortably facetank every tier 6-8 medium and a lot of the lower tier heavies and mediums. The siege mode actually also increases the effective traverse to about 33 degrees a second.
However, 88 and 90mm HEAT ammunition can pen it because their autobounce angle is 85 degrees, not 70 degrees
The russian mediums get 100mm guns though
Yeah this would a varient of the British 105mm but the swedes made special ammo for it which is why the pen is so much and the tier 8 normal Swedish tank destroyer has a fixed gun to the hull aswell only the tier 9 and 10 have movable guns on the hull
I think, the dispersion and the aim time is based on NOT being in siege mode
Yup In Siege Mode I think aim time is around 2 seconds (or less) and really accurate.
Same with Normal Swedish TT.
dgeneratio1 the aim time in siege mode is 1.34 seconds and the accuracy is. 29
cool ty, just went from memory :)
That's exactly why I mentioned to Wargaming about including both sets of stats for these not just the driving mode ones, it's very misleading.
True also apologies for the chat below, at various parts in the video I paused and then commented to shed some more light like overmatch :)
Nope the camo and bino stay active while in siege mode and turning but not driving in siege mode. Yes when tracked you can't aim anymore at all. I have not been set on fire at all yet. I actually like this but it is an extreme campy tanks. Going for camo skill first. I run the camo, bino, vents then repair kit, med kit, and their rations for the extra 10%. It is a premium so you always make money even in a bad loss. Damn thing is like a rail gun.
For anyone that is curious about what Beardface was saying about being able to creep up on a ridge line in third person and be able to shoot sooner than if you were in sniper view, that is true and here is why. Third person will arc your shot for you versus first person shoots directly forward. The best way to understand this is to go get the Alecto and use the derp gun. The Alecto is so low that the gun will arc up like an Arty, you can often find dips in the ground that you can use auto aim to arc you gun and shoot with out exposing your tanks, you can even do this behind some rocks.
Camo net and binos don't reset in siege mode if you traverse
As i know the telescope and the camo still works on this if you rotate the tank. It goess off only when you go forward or backward
Camo is too good on these. My E50 with vents, view crew skills, and coated optics couldn't see it at all until I was within 100m of him, granted he was in a bush, but he was firing the whole time and I still couldn't see him until then. It's crazy. Also I feel like if the Swedish TDs get to keep their equipment active while rotating but not moving, so should all other non-turreted TDs.
Yep, watch Sneakiest Tank in WoT by Quickybaby, UDES with camo bonuses can't be seen until 150 meters I think unless enemy has an exceptional crew. Camo is better than Scouts (or least how I feel).
dgeneratio1 under 100m
TheBamidd why the whining? Its supposed to be sneaky sniper that is hard to spot. And no it shouldnt be like that with every td. Dont be stupid, it would totally ruin the whole game and nobody wants that right?
Equipment I would do Rammer (DPM), Binos (View Range) and Camo Net (Hidden) as their all active during Siege Mode, GLD you should be in Siege Mode 80% of the time but GLD is useful if not in Siege Mode.
dgeneratio1 yeah gold is also good for the buffed Maus/type 5...
Dispersion in siege 0.30 m, aim time in siege 1.7 sec
In practice no bloom while moving in siege.
Super difficult tank to play. Not for the beginners.
The armor is overmatched by 91+mm shells. The Siege mode makes it very hard to play in close quarters/city maps. That being said, it has reasonable alpha. Unless you are overextending yourself, you should manage to do your own HP's worth.
To be honest looking forward to medium and heavy Swedish tanks to be honest I think they should do a sand box test server like they do for pc
In Siege Mode you have incredible aim time and accuracy but limited to 5 kph (I think), in Drive Mode, you have excellent mobility but Soviet Heavy gun handling.
dgeneratio1 not even Soviet heavys, the gun can't be used unless to shoot only a specific part, it can't be moved or lowered or anything haha
yup mean the huge bloom, dislike any tank with a 3+ second aim time.
I'm not a fan of TDs but wanted to give the new seige mode a go, so bought it yesterday. The gun isn't a guarantee pen and have been bounced - aimed in - by an AT7, Tiger II, IS3 and an E75, plus a couple of others. Games have ranged from being wrecked without getting a shot off to a 5200 combined damage mastery game on Pilsen. You die very quickly if you get spotted in a Tier X game. But it's fun to play and so I like it a lot, and I don't mind the paint job. It's no worse than the Knight, Liberty or Motherland. Looking forward to the Swedish line when it comes.
i did the line up to tier 9 on pc nightmare until you reach tier 8 tier 7 not to shabby once you learn to use it.
Its a camping sniper, and even if you had 500mm of pen it wouldnt be guaranteed penetrarion on any tank, tracks can soak the shell, it can bounce from any tank if u hit it at a bad angle...
The gun is balanced by the fact you have to use siege mode this tank is the bomb
I don't think the gun is overpowered at all, yes it's good but it needs to be since the tank it's mounted on is dreadful.
agreed
Also its 51 calibres long its a massive gun
Stats are different on one
Alex Milne the tank is dreadful u say? How do u find it dreadful? Its armor can bounce all under 90mm shells shot to its front and its fast.
until people load heat and then it can't bounce anymore
Actually Capt. borsig's 150mm heat round has little over 330 pen.
The one without the flag is 10,000 gold, yet you can trade some vehicles for the one with flag wouldn't recommend but can be cheaper
Tanks.gg gives an indication of the siege mode stats. The PC version is a little bit different.
Tanks.gg
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I feel the same way in regards to the absolutely gaudy paint job on this tank. In fact, I’m not buying it solely for that reason. Honestly, I’m not a fan of the paint jobs on a lot of the “Hero Tanks.”
Personally, I’d trade a lot of them for the non hero version and pay the extra gold to put Camo on them. It’s frustrating because a lot of the hero tanks I own I either earned for free or purchased them because the standard editions a weren’t available for a couple months afterwards. It would be cool if WG had a premium tank trade in event on console like they did on PC. Thoughts?
My m4a1 rev has 202 pen and 250 on premium and this tank has 288 standard what the hell war gaming
Yeah the super shermans should get a little buff to pen
It's a turret-less tank destroyer that must use siege mode to engage people. It has 390 alpha, which is less than most tier 8 TDs... but has much better penetration.
Tank destroyers (turret-less in general) do not see many opportunity to make damage. Its not like a mobile medium tank or heavy tank. They must reliably be able to inflict damage when those few opportunities occur.
For instance, I do much more damage (on average) in a Mutz than a tier 8 TD.
Steven Anchundia medium and tank destroyer are two totally different tanks and you should not compare the stats between these classes
Alpha Ulfr does it need it tho? It has good mobility good accuracy and good pen for tier 8 medium.. and the shell velocity makes up for that pen.
Steven Anchundia its swedish of course it has so much pen
Great pen, great camo = no armor, siege mode slowness, and no hit points. Love this tank
I would love to see a video of the possible overmatching of 90mm guns against this.
WELP, I am late, but 90mm gun cannot penetrate it with 100% chance. It will be about 35-50%. All guns that are less than 90mm will not penetrate it in any situation.
@@MAHyJT another late 1 how about like a 105?
Have you taken any hits from HE? Would you recommend shooting these things with it?
joshua vaipulu HE these all the time
steven schwartz tier 8 waffentragger?
Glass cannon
you are saying right click left click on the s1 is easy mode ? isn't that what the isu 152 is all about ?
Batico 結城 In a way yes, but the ISU-152 doesn't have the rate of fire, or more importantly, the shell velocity of the gun on the S1. It's that shell velocity that makes the difference because you barely have to lead to hit a moving target.
Honestly I think the pen kind of makes me sad for the chieftains pen more than anything. It's also got apcr on a bigger gun that similarly modern and it has less pen. Especially the premium which is awful on the chieftain.
Stark means strong in Swedish, but you probably knew that. I like the look, but i'm biased...
I played my first 20 games in either proving grounds or war stories just to get used to it. When it is top tier and you face the enemy you will bounce like crazy. Front towards enemy all the time.
Has to be above 90mm explains your bounces
About Overmatch a 91 mm calibre gun will overmatch (30*3+1) however theirs a small part to right of the gun which is 45 mm thick so would need 136 mm calibre gun (45*3+1).
tanks.gg/tank/strv-s1/model?vm=visual
CptBeardface what should I get? I primarily want a crew trainer. I really am between this and the tier 6. I have the money to get this and it seems like a novelty. I really don't know. Please help!
do you want the Soviet Heavies or the Soviet TDs when the TT launches? If TD, the S1 has a similar playstyle to the UDES at Tier 8, can't go wrong with the autoloader either :)
Also S1 has a High Skill Cap, if your fairly new i'd say the Medium is best :)
depends on what side of the line want to go,medium for the medium,td for the td,i have both because im going to invest in both lines
Well the tier 6 will make more crew experience but the tier 8 will make more money as neither matter of what tank they go into
The aimig time and accuracy changes when on siege mode
I've been messing these tanks up with my new panzer aka VK low B
can you show your game stats?
Everyone, please just stop whining about this new tank about it being overpowered or under-powered ok? The tank needs that crazy pen to be able to hurt the tier 10 tanks in this game! So go cry about somewhere else and deal with it!
this, and the udes 03 will be pretty bad at himmelsdorf
Alvar Lahtinen believe they are... But with little improvisation u can snipe from the hill or from the train tracks...
My pershing best 90mm bounced and the 105mm from the super sherman bounced twice
I should add that the 105mm was shot with the premium round
To be fair, heat isn't good against sloped armor
I've always thought that the heat rounds weren't any different then ap rounds. So the super sherman has 2 different ammo types that suck against sloped armor...
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here, this one sums up those mechanics. if you want to get better, i would highly suggest looking into how the mechanics of the game work
the AMX ac 48 has good pen
8 n UP
..... You do realise if you add camo it will add more then a skin...
Yup Camo Net and Binos, if you move tank it resets but if still in Siege Mode, it won't reset even when the gun moves.
Nice tank too expensive
Its a 91mm gun not 90
It's is a sniper and that is it, siege mode is the problem...pure and simple.
Nice Video too :)
owh big target marker
You can check www.tanks.gg for the Siege stats guys if you have a Computer :)
Doesn’t even have a Turret
Neat
Most Swedish TD/MBT(MBT because real life) are just fucking cheese wedges, they look so boring and generic like nothing is going on with it, its just a basic geometric shape.
Yellow machine gun
i like the tank but paintjob is ugly asf. no offense to the swedes.
I dub this tank 'tony stark'
why not stark from game of thrones?