I like how zelevas doesnt even say anything when you contact him during war, and just stares at you in anger like he’s ready to punch you in the face at any moment
Craver AI in a nutshell: Cravers: "Give us dust. Now." Me: "No." Cravers: "Okay. Then you shall die... Soon." *_~10 turns later_* Cravers: "Why aren't you killing us?"
It's like the build up to a pounce, the waking, the waiting, the stalking, the burst of adrenaline that comes when you see your prey, the breathless moment right before and then... The chase.
I imagine earning their trust would involve sending a fleet of food trucks. "We hunger... for your "keh-babs". Your "fission chips". Your... DEEP FRIED MARS BARS." "Even abandoned by our masters... Our hunger... still remains... It is time... for us to order take-out."
This song is sinister, it's militaristic, yet has a hint of sadness to it. Even though I don't play the game, just reading about the Cravers makes me feel sorry for them. The Cravers kill all life they come across not because they enjoy it, but they have no choice but to follow a kill or die system because that's how the Endless designed them to be. They live to work and always feel hungry no matter what they eat, all because their only purpose was to serve as cannon fodder that consume everything when their creators needed to deal with "pest control" or "garbage disposal".
I don't think they're "hungry" in the traditional "need food" sense. They probably just ingest some kind of mass-produced nutrient paste. They don't crave food, *they crave destruction*
Jason Hawk, I haven't played, but from what I read they can eat any plant and animal mass. So... yes, they do crave food, they're used as weapons to wipe out a planet completely, and to turn it barren. They are constantly starving, and thus have to endlessly colonize and spread.
It would be interesting to explore a potential "questline" that pursues a splinter sect of Cravers (led by a unique Bishop), who are attempting to somehow break this cycle. Trying to silence the psychosomatic side of the eternal hunger, to streamline their biological processes to require less overall nutrition, and break the chains of their dead masters. And in doing so, perhaps it could introduce an existential crisis for the Cravers: "What is a Craver, without a craving?". And in addition, as part of the questline, it could give a change to the Main Population like in the United Empire questline.
My first game with these hungry boy: Spawn next to sophon, spot a nice titanium system, make an outpost. Sophon built an too outpost and take the system. Look on the other side and I'm being block by the hissio and the vaulter. Rush the attack ship, but these required titanium, so I am stuck with defender ships. Do an early war against the sophon and get two system around turn 30. Suddenly, the vaulter are declaring war on me. They were the leading faction and had a bunch of systems, while I barely managed to colonized 3 systems, that are in reality the remains of the sophon. Everyone is starting to starve, but I manage to get medium ship and stole laser canon tech from the vaulter. The hissio also declared war, but I've never seen them, so let's Ignore them. The great war of turn 50-150 was a massacre, millions of craver and vaulter dying for planets that there empire weren't capable of keeping, making this an attrition war, that craver couldn't win. Suddenly, around turn 170, horacio join the war against the ugly hive and lost very large system containing tier 2 and 3 ressource. Against the newly revised craver fleet, wich was made of tech stolen from left and right, the vaulter are being pushed back, until they make an alliance with Horacio and the geometry waifu. Fortunately, out of nowhere, the magic cloud came to my rescue and started nuking everything with there newly created obliterator. This war continues until around turn 300, where the luminaris stole my well deserved supremacy victory by being rich.
@@Bake-kurijra In a nutshell, they were created by the Endless as living weapons, and were left without leadership or purpose once the Endless were gone. This was not a fate they chose, it was forced upon them, and they are now left with no purpose, other than an inescapable, and constant hunger.
When they are about to offer alliance, they suggest to devour the galaxy together. Then, there's that quiet "Did you... forget something?" when you contact them for second time in this turn
We were already hungry when they created us...they gave us one purpose: To destroy planets over...and over...and over...even in the absence of our masters...our hunger still grows..
@@future3805 the opposite works too. If a craver players knows how to handle the UE (AI: declaring war as soon as possible because the longer you wait, the more dangerous their industrial advantage becomes) it can be a blood bath
I just cant stop listening to this one. So imposing and at the same time fragile like desperately looking for salvation by any means necessary. Nonstop race against time itself.
My first encounter with these guys was seeing a fleet of 13 ships, 3 of which were medium, making a beeline from a starlane that they *made* at me. I had scout ships and only had 2 nearby to intercept. I knew I was going to have a bad time. Thank god I could spam out on average 3 per turn to send in to fight them by attrition. They had taken 3 of my outer system before I finally stopped them at a choke point and held them long enough by cheesing with the enhanced shield tactic, as many flak guns and shields I could put on the explorer frame until I could crank out some proper destroyers of my own.
Little known fact about Cravers: They're actually the chillest guys ever. It's just that their homeworld was an Endless pot farm, and munchies can get pretty extreme when smoking Dust420.
This guys right . The cravers are actually druggy . They smoke so much the have never ending munches . But get them to rehab and there just chill bug guys that are really friendly and like to fight
The Cravers are generally much better balanced and enjoyable in ES2 compared to ES1. They were quite weak in ES1 but they've got much better strengths now.
Is there a list of all the quotes the AI uses? I'm really bugging to know what the Friendly Cravers say after hearing Friendly Vodyani for the first time.
@@APSejuani Super easy to befriend Vodyani as Unfallen, so I heard it right away. Or to befriend anyone as Unfallen really, though I've never heard the lines from the Cravers because I go scorched earth on them before they get anywhere near my vines.
@@bobmcbob49 as a craver player, that's probably the adequate answer. Cravers do not really care about the pressure vines put on another empire (because they are constantly at war) so the best answer is to kill them when you can
@@Sir_Bucket I also try to exterminate them as fast as possible in general because they ruin planets. Unless I'm playing as Horatio and manage to grab some sower genes so I can restore their planets. Definitely a good idea to try getting a strong sower population as cravers too.
For some reason they always end up being that 13yo kid listening to slipknot in my games. Trying to be dark af but getting laughed and abused by little girls on breaks. "Our puprose is to kill" -two bureaucratic imbroglios later- "Our purpose is to give"
Managing your population as craver is kinda hard because once they finished devouring a planet the input of the planets is very low & it's especially bad for food.
@@madness1383 kinda do that but I mostly like to put cravers on one or two planets & put my miners on over other planets as well. It's a god send if you manage to find or assimilate the sower because they can restore depleted planets & I put them on the same planets as cravers. I also still think you should at least hit the 50 cap population for cravers to gain their trait & that you should take advantage of the slave drive trait to build more faster.
Okay, as soon as you said it, I noticed it and freaked out a bit. It's a slow, gradual zoom out. Compare the beginning to the end and rest easy. If you hadn't realized this within the two years between you saying that and me saying this.
in the end the cravers are probably the race I relie the most to, me too I'm a twat with the single purpose of eating all that I can until someone put an end to my sorry life.
I wonder, if horatio splices their genes...do they too, become an eternally hungering creature, craving for more? Depleting their planets and society collapsing because of their previous hunger for genetics they couldn't handle?
This race seems to be very sinister, but if you think about it more deeply, the Vodiani are much more cruel. They're just doing genocide, while the Cravers can get you a porridge, barrack and an interesting job.
The issue isn't so much that they have destructive urges, it's that they have no *other* urges. You could probably keep a craver docile and harmless with VR, but then it'll be just that, they have no desire to create a lasting legacy, great works of art, or a rich culture, they only crave consumption.
@@albertnonymous9759 idk in alot of art you can see them hanging out and working together with other races,and their destructive urges also include consumption of all lifeforms so vr and such can only go so far
cravers: a horrible crime against biology and robotics, horrors of space with the single goal to consume and destroy anything they come across cravers in my latest campaign: start encircled by the sophonity, vaulters and me as ue: please dont hurt us, we are friendly caterpillars
Probably the race that makes the least sense of all of them. The players are able to destroy planets halfway up the miltech path, and the Endless couldn't? Why wouldn't they just dump the cravers on one planet and blow it up, way less chance of them escaping
The Endless had a war going on, finite resources, with more pressing matters. The cravers were dumped on a planet and the planet glassed, it even has continent-sized craters where the bombs hit in the world preview screen. A planet killer is much better used against the Concretes, it makes no sense to waste one to destroy the cravers when a conventional bombing is expected to be enough, and if not it sets the surviving cravers back for such a long time they won't be a concern for centuries. That's the first rule of warfare, don't use excessive force, it's wasteful. The only error the Virtuals did in relation to the Cravers was complete mutual destruction, had either Endless faction remained, THEN the cravers would have been completely destroyed once the war was over.
![Warhammer 40,000 Mechanicus OST - Children of the Omnissiah[Extended]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ztzq05IzYds/mqdefault.jpg)
me:**declares war on cravers**
cravers: your declarations are meaningless. nothing has changed.
"Isn't that like declaring that the sun is hot?"
@@GmodPlusWoW XD
god I loved the quotes in endless space 1
"I believe we were always at war" - Cravers
@@GmodPlusWoW Yes
I love how even the craver in the pic is posing like a renaissance painting because everyone is so serene and enlightened in this game
I like how zelevas doesnt even say anything when you contact him during war, and just stares at you in anger like he’s ready to punch you in the face at any moment
@@georgsgrants9925 i thought that was a bug, lmaoo
they were literally created by the endless, it's makes sense
"Like this"
"Oh yea just like that"
"I feel so empowered right now dawg"
"fr fr, donate to the craver fund today"
Craver AI in a nutshell:
Cravers: "Give us dust. Now."
Me: "No."
Cravers: "Okay. Then you shall die... Soon."
*_~10 turns later_*
Cravers: "Why aren't you killing us?"
Meanwhile if you're Unfallen.
*50 ships blockading your system*
That heartbeat baseline sends chills down my spine. The beginning of the song sounds like a creatures slowly waking up.
It's like the build up to a pounce, the waking, the waiting, the stalking, the burst of adrenaline that comes when you see your prey, the breathless moment right before and then...
The chase.
Then the alarm running in the background, something has gone terribly, terribly wrong
Cravers: We are driven by DNA
Horatios: We are driven towards DNA
I imagine earning their trust would involve sending a fleet of food trucks.
"We hunger... for your "keh-babs". Your "fission chips". Your... DEEP FRIED MARS BARS."
"Even abandoned by our masters... Our hunger... still remains... It is time... for us to order take-out."
That's genius
What’s a keh-babs
GmodPlusWoW best way to stop a craven invasion give them your food supply
I would respond : That a heck of metabolism you got here sir.
"Tonight... we dine on fries".
I hear the song over and Over and OVER.
And over
and OVER
...even abandoned by our masters our hearing still remains.
Hearing? Maybe hunger?
someone didnt get the joke i see
Hissho: *Finally... A worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary!*
This song is sinister, it's militaristic, yet has a hint of sadness to it.
Even though I don't play the game, just reading about the Cravers makes me feel sorry for them.
The Cravers kill all life they come across not because they enjoy it, but they have no choice but to follow a kill or die system because that's how the Endless designed them to be. They live to work and always feel hungry no matter what they eat, all because their only purpose was to serve as cannon fodder that consume everything when their creators needed to deal with "pest control" or "garbage disposal".
Interesting point of view.
Specy J they're like the zerg(starcraft) in some way
I don't think they're "hungry" in the traditional "need food" sense. They probably just ingest some kind of mass-produced nutrient paste. They don't crave food,
*they crave destruction*
Jason Hawk, I haven't played, but from what I read they can eat any plant and animal mass. So... yes, they do crave food, they're used as weapons to wipe out a planet completely, and to turn it barren. They are constantly starving, and thus have to endlessly colonize and spread.
It would be interesting to explore a potential "questline" that pursues a splinter sect of Cravers (led by a unique Bishop), who are attempting to somehow break this cycle. Trying to silence the psychosomatic side of the eternal hunger, to streamline their biological processes to require less overall nutrition, and break the chains of their dead masters.
And in doing so, perhaps it could introduce an existential crisis for the Cravers: "What is a Craver, without a craving?". And in addition, as part of the questline, it could give a change to the Main Population like in the United Empire questline.
My first game with these hungry boy:
Spawn next to sophon, spot a nice titanium system, make an outpost. Sophon built an too outpost and take the system. Look on the other side and I'm being block by the hissio and the vaulter. Rush the attack ship, but these required titanium, so I am stuck with defender ships. Do an early war against the sophon and get two system around turn 30. Suddenly, the vaulter are declaring war on me. They were the leading faction and had a bunch of systems, while I barely managed to colonized 3 systems, that are in reality the remains of the sophon. Everyone is starting to starve, but I manage to get medium ship and stole laser canon tech from the vaulter. The hissio also declared war, but I've never seen them, so let's Ignore them. The great war of turn 50-150 was a massacre, millions of craver and vaulter dying for planets that there empire weren't capable of keeping, making this an attrition war, that craver couldn't win. Suddenly, around turn 170, horacio join the war against the ugly hive and lost very large system containing tier 2 and 3 ressource. Against the newly revised craver fleet, wich was made of tech stolen from left and right, the vaulter are being pushed back, until they make an alliance with Horacio and the geometry waifu. Fortunately, out of nowhere, the magic cloud came to my rescue and started nuking everything with there newly created obliterator. This war continues until around turn 300, where the luminaris stole my well deserved supremacy victory by being rich.
Since when did the attack ship require titanium?
@@codyarcher3263 The defender one is free of strategic ressource, but not the attacker one, if I remember.
@@Factao started a new game, only the tier 2 combat ships cost strategic resources to build, the basic ones do not.
@@codyarcher3263 Well, then I'm just blind. I probably did not uninstall a module or a gun that was requiring ressource.
This was phrased like a rimworld tale, good job mate
Also what's that cloud obliterating shit
Says a lot about a game when you can feel a little sorry for the devouring swarm knowing their backstory.
A discarded weapon that's what they feel like to them
What’s there back story ?
@@Bake-kurijra In a nutshell, they were created by the Endless as living weapons, and were left without leadership or purpose once the Endless were gone. This was not a fate they chose, it was forced upon them, and they are now left with no purpose, other than an inescapable, and constant hunger.
What do you sound like.. When you scream?
Our purpose is to kill. You, though, will suffer as well.
"You are brave...to contact us again!"
Speak your mind.
*NO.*
*LIES.*
GroxPL if you wait long enough, after he says “Speak your mind” he says “the Hive.... Cares not.”
I got that the other day after picking up ES2 after a long hiatus and was like: "bruh.....wat de fu0k did you just say to me?!". XD
Cravers have cute phrases when you manage to befriend them. Still edgy as hell, but cute.
Such as?
When they are about to offer alliance, they suggest to devour the galaxy together.
Then, there's that quiet "Did you... forget something?" when you contact them for second time in this turn
:D
or "Greetings, those we will not make suffer"
Like this right? steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=973493766
We were already hungry when they created us...they gave us one purpose: To destroy planets over...and over...and over...even in the absence of our masters...our hunger still grows..
Correction:
Even abandoned by our masters... our hunger still remains...
> Download the game
> FIrst game as empire
> Cravers spawn in the middle of my constellation
So, what should i play for game 2?
Cravers
united empire, the cravers might have an big fuck off fleet, but you can shit fleets out fasther than them
@@future3805 the opposite works too. If a craver players knows how to handle the UE (AI: declaring war as soon as possible because the longer you wait, the more dangerous their industrial advantage becomes) it can be a blood bath
I just cant stop listening to this one. So imposing and at the same time fragile like desperately looking for salvation by any means necessary. Nonstop race against time itself.
My first encounter with these guys was seeing a fleet of 13 ships, 3 of which were medium, making a beeline from a starlane that they *made* at me.
I had scout ships and only had 2 nearby to intercept. I knew I was going to have a bad time.
Thank god I could spam out on average 3 per turn to send in to fight them by attrition. They had taken 3 of my outer system before I finally stopped them at a choke point and held them long enough by cheesing with the enhanced shield tactic, as many flak guns and shields I could put on the explorer frame until I could crank out some proper destroyers of my own.
They *made* a starlane???
and then the game crashed
Little known fact about Cravers: They're actually the chillest guys ever. It's just that their homeworld was an Endless pot farm, and munchies can get pretty extreme when smoking Dust420.
* endless * smokes
Our purpose is to chill
This guys right . The cravers are actually druggy . They smoke so much the have never ending munches . But get them to rehab and there just chill bug guys that are really friendly and like to fight
no one:
the endless: what if we mix xenomorph and terminator together
Totally hated the Cravers in ES1. This song changed my mind!
The Cravers are generally much better balanced and enjoyable in ES2 compared to ES1. They were quite weak in ES1 but they've got much better strengths now.
Is there a list of all the quotes the AI uses? I'm really bugging to know what the Friendly Cravers say after hearing Friendly Vodyani for the first time.
Friendly Vodyani is a hell of a trip. I was beginning to think that "I will defend the faith, whatever it requires" was their only voice line
@@APSejuani Super easy to befriend Vodyani as Unfallen, so I heard it right away. Or to befriend anyone as Unfallen really, though I've never heard the lines from the Cravers because I go scorched earth on them before they get anywhere near my vines.
@@bobmcbob49 as a craver player, that's probably the adequate answer. Cravers do not really care about the pressure vines put on another empire (because they are constantly at war) so the best answer is to kill them when you can
@@Sir_Bucket I also try to exterminate them as fast as possible in general because they ruin planets.
Unless I'm playing as Horatio and manage to grab some sower genes so I can restore their planets.
Definitely a good idea to try getting a strong sower population as cravers too.
This music plays when I'm at a buffet
a sushi buffet opened near me recently. I want you to know that i thought about this comment as I ate there.
Even abandoned by our teacher, our hunger still remains
This theme really capitalized on the bad assery and sadness of the cravers and I love it
For some reason they always end up being that 13yo kid listening to slipknot in my games. Trying to be dark af but getting laughed and abused by little girls on breaks.
"Our puprose is to kill" -two bureaucratic imbroglios later- "Our purpose is to give"
"Forget the promise of knowledge and understanding..."
Best song to eat to.
Managing your population as craver is kinda hard because once they finished devouring a planet the input of the planets is very low & it's especially bad for food.
just start off with some other population and send the cravers to some shit system and let them rot there.
@@madness1383 kinda do that but I mostly like to put cravers on one or two planets & put my miners on over other planets as well. It's a god send if you manage to find or assimilate the sower because they can restore depleted planets & I put them on the same planets as cravers. I also still think you should at least hit the 50 cap population for cravers to gain their trait & that you should take advantage of the slave drive trait to build more faster.
I'm sad for them, thats why i was so hard pressed to "Liberate" them from the coil of mortal world.
This plays when I open the fridge and no one else js home
"What do you sound like, when you scream...?"
Now thats how you make the warmonger faction sound threatening.
If I wanted to find more background/ambience like this, what would you call the style/genre?
Techno-orchestral? I know the Mechanicus OST from Warhammer has a lot of music similar to this.
I love the scale used for this song.
It even reminds me of Zero Escape somewhat
Best soundtrack. The vibe of this music when you playing Cravers is amazing
Is it just me or do all of these background images seem to be moving ever so slightly
Okay, as soon as you said it, I noticed it and freaked out a bit. It's a slow, gradual zoom out. Compare the beginning to the end and rest easy.
If you hadn't realized this within the two years between you saying that and me saying this.
in the end the cravers are probably the race I relie the most to, me too I'm a twat with the single purpose of eating all that I can until someone put an end to my sorry life.
OUR PURPOSE IS TO CHILL
I love how you can play this game as the bad guys! The cravers are so scary
I wonder, if horatio splices their genes...do they too, become an eternally hungering creature, craving for more? Depleting their planets and society collapsing because of their previous hunger for genetics they couldn't handle?
5% Bonus to the production of 5 basic resources per resident.
Apparently, Horatie gets a flair for maximizing.
''The Cravers are fucking terrifying.'' - WeedLord420
In the endless depths of cosmos
there is only
*WAR*
This race seems to be very sinister, but if you think about it more deeply, the Vodiani are much more cruel. They're just doing genocide, while the Cravers can get you a porridge, barrack and an interesting job.
Ah yes, the theme song of the Honeycomb Cereal mascot. Chilling.
i'm craving!!!
The beat underneath is like a heartbeat of instinctual drive, very fitting for cravers.
THE HIVE HUNGERS!
Oh great!, cosmic horrors beyond my comprehension
I wonder if Cravers could overcome destruction urges by playing some games in VR or some shit.
The issue isn't so much that they have destructive urges, it's that they have no *other* urges. You could probably keep a craver docile and harmless with VR, but then it'll be just that, they have no desire to create a lasting legacy, great works of art, or a rich culture, they only crave consumption.
@@albertnonymous9759 idk in alot of art you can see them hanging out and working together with other races,and their destructive urges also include consumption of all lifeforms so vr and such can only go so far
This song is so fucking good
What is this genre called
darksynth
The scariest thing about carvers is that I dont see the mouth
Craver here eat a sneaker.
ok here's another one
jesus christ we're gonna need a truck loed for one of you.
cravers: a horrible crime against biology and robotics, horrors of space with the single goal to consume and destroy anything they come across
cravers in my latest campaign: start encircled by the sophonity, vaulters and me as ue: please dont hurt us, we are friendly caterpillars
What do you sound like... when you scream?
Is there a difference between this vers. and the demo?
this one seems more refined; it's definitely more pleasing to listen to for me. That might just be placebo though, because I haven't compared them.
SomeRandomPerson YouNeverMeet The bass is stronger and the sounds are way less cluttered as far as i can hear.
strong strogg vibes.
I must say the Kra'hen of Imperium galactica II are more meanecing in game then these guys, but god damn their aestethics... They are above pair
when is endless space 3
Thats what i always think the cravens would be saying over AND over again xD
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Like The Reapers from Mass Effect. LOL.
Reminds me so much of the theme from Stranger Things
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Why?
@@tomh4754 Dude, that's crazy. people aren't allowed to have opinions on the internet
@@kriboskakmak5006 who do they think they are, people!?
I love the song i hate the class because they love war xd and i dont
They should have made them some kind animal biological race ,like star craft zerg would have been cooler.
Edgy teen kids
@OVOD.net I'm sorry your insect waifu got insulted.
Cope and Dilate.
Ooo jaki ty mądry jesteś
@@gonzalespopcorn4717 Tak jak twoja stara
Probably the race that makes the least sense of all of them. The players are able to destroy planets halfway up the miltech path, and the Endless couldn't? Why wouldn't they just dump the cravers on one planet and blow it up, way less chance of them escaping
The thing is that they did that.
The Endless had a war going on, finite resources, with more pressing matters. The cravers were dumped on a planet and the planet glassed, it even has continent-sized craters where the bombs hit in the world preview screen.
A planet killer is much better used against the Concretes, it makes no sense to waste one to destroy the cravers when a conventional bombing is expected to be enough, and if not it sets the surviving cravers back for such a long time they won't be a concern for centuries.
That's the first rule of warfare, don't use excessive force, it's wasteful. The only error the Virtuals did in relation to the Cravers was complete mutual destruction, had either Endless faction remained, THEN the cravers would have been completely destroyed once the war was over.