Something is very wrong with the Saints training staff and training approach. Why do we have SO MANY injuries now almost every year since Drew Brees left???
No matter how bad a loss is, or how good a win is, I'm still going to be a Saints fan, no matter what. I've been a Saints fan for a while now, and I don't plan on switching teams just because we're having a bad year. Let's just finish off the season with high hopes against the Raiders and Buccaneers and see what happens. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to each and every one of you.
I don’t understand Klint Kupiak’s play calling at all. Why are you running the ball west to east and not north and south? Calling play action in some horrible situations? But aside from that, roster construction has been horrible on both sides. They need to RESET everything.
Over the past 2 years Winston 0-3, Haener 0-1, Rattler 0-4, and Carr 14-13. Everyone complains about Carr, the fact is Carr has had to play with the same players as the other QBs and somehow still has a winning record. Carr is not the problem. He sits injured with a 101 QB rating.
The way DC4 overachieves with this horrific team is amazing. It's insane how much he is able to carry a bad team. He's clearly and absolutely the best thing the Saints have going.
I actually believe Carr did better with less, during this and last season. I don't believe any veteran on this Saints team, on both the offense and defense, supported Carr off the field as much as they should have. I think if they did, this team would be so much further along because they all would be moving in the same direction and playing like a team. It never looked like this Saints team has played as a team in the past 2 years. This team needs a coach like Andy Reid who players fear so he can call out the cancers on the team.
Don’t leave out the details when you say things like this..I can say Carr has been the best option but he’s horrible against contending teams and his backups has mostly played contenders while he was injured and he hand picked easy games to make his return
The O-line is absolutely horrible play calling is trash please don’t bring him back how can you evaluate anyone behind a bad O-line and horrible play calling make it make sense
Still scratching my head the guy I met the day the saints were crushing the cowboys that said they need to get rattler in there.. that kid is special!!
KK is trash. Do not bring back. Draft. TWO QBs, as we have none. At all. Fire Mickey Loomis, hire a good GM. We couldn’t get close enough for our BEST player to score three points. Shameful ship
Now you're defending our draft classes? Come on man. We haven't drafted well for the last 5 years, too many role players and not enough starters. This is a draft issue, a pro personnel issue, a scheme issue, a culture issue, a philosophy issue. Stop giving the people in this front office an out, you're not helping.
Nobody in a TH-cam comment section is helping brother. We are just fans. The choices of the organization are not affected by us in anyway. You aren't helping
I've seen fans be a part of removing oligarchs from a team. Once fans realize the power of fan opinion and fan pressure, we could actually do something again here.
@@chrisshowers2192, they're watching a quarterback who is behind a bottom 5 offensive line, with some very inconsistent playcalling, throwing to guys who would be on most team's practice squads, still be in the top 10 (or just outside) in passer rating, completion percentage, QBR, and touchdown percentage. Him and Kamara should be commended for their production, not condemned. 🤷🏿♂️⚜️💯
Rizzi’s ceiling isn’t high man. There’s no reason for you to get shutout. You couldn’t even kick a fg. Embarrassing. Just keep losing from here on out. What’s the point of winning at this point? Rizzi ain’t getting the job anyway. Let Rizzi and Kubiak go. Everything starts with Loomis. Mrs B needs to make this change and fire Loomis or this team will never get out of this cap hole!!!!!
Plus to add, I have nothing on this game except that I expected the Packers to win but that we could keep it competitive but we got shut out which we are the first team to do that this season which is pathetic and embarrassing.
The answer is, to get all the team healthy in the off season. Then in the off season Carr and all the top 10 players need to do 2 things: 1. Ridged Physical Reconditioning to the point they are hard as nails. 2. Prevention, have management and coaching staff seek out injury prevention methods that can scientifically teach moves and awareness that can overt the unforeseen injuries. Remember, the first two games in this season were close to perfection. The league had us slated to be Super Bowl bound.
I agree. I think it’s the high standards and wanting to have 300 yards and 3 touchdowns. And a division so bad we believe we can win it but injuries we can expect that you know
The glorious GM will give Rizzi the job, nothing will change and absolutely no positions of need will be drafted and he’ll keep all the aging players, maybe extend a few or restructure a few.
This will not be 100% true and it concerns me if youre this negative . We are not the Jaguars. We havent been this bad in years who knows what will happen in the offseason.
The coaching staffs should be gone after this season. Changes are needed and the off-season overhaul changes have to happen. New HC which has to be a impact and quality HC, new offensive and defensive coaching staffs, new GM and front office, need to nail the draft by drafting best available player on every pick and cut the crap that includes cutting Carr on post June 1st.
@@KermitTFYT, we came into this season knowing that it hinged on the offensive line. If they performed well, then we had a chance at a good season. If they didn't, it would be rough. Not only did they not perform well, they performed exceptionally bad. Then, we suffered an alarming amount of injuries at key positions. But yeah, it's all the quarterback's fault once again. That's some serious surface-level analysis. 🤷🏿♂️⚜️
We can’t judge Rattler and Rizzi to the fullest extent when we have no Weapons (Olave, Shaheed) Kamara missed this game. We have high school players on our team pretending to be NFL talent. O-Line is banged up as usual. If they gave Allen another opportunity because of injury you should do the same for Rizzi.
Fire everyone, even the owner, it’s not going to get better for years, we’re in salary cap hell, and we can’t unload this old ass team, I’ve seen better football from a Jr college team
Out of respect and love as a Saints fan, Cameron Jordan, Tyrann Mathieu, and Demario Davis need to retire after this season. This game showed that they're in the twilight of their career but simply put that they are done.
So many haters focused on that stat. The guys with losses to 30 teams includes Drew Brees, Brett Favre, Carson Palmer, Joe Flacco, Drew Bledsoe, Jon Kitna, Alex Smith, and Matt Hasselbeck. It seems it is a stat that is reflective of 2 things. Being on bad teams and longevity.🤷🏿♂️⚜️
Saints drafted good players. They just don't know how to use them. Zack Baun is a perfect example. They have too many old players that are getting paid way too much and not producing. Kubiak is just not what I've expected. There's not enough misdirection or trick plays from the offense all year long. Ratler is not ready to be a NFL QB yet. His decisions are awful. 3 times in field goal range and he took sacks when he could have dumped it off for checkdowns. RB was wide open for checkdowns for those plays.
I think it’s time to shift into rebuild mode. We need to move on from Carr-not because he’s bad, but because he’s average and comes with the cost of a high-end QB. Cap space is one of our biggest issues, and freeing that up should be a priority. The focus should be on adding young talent and making smart moves in free agency. I think we should keep starting Rattler-not because he’s great right now, but because he could be. We won’t know unless we give him support and let him develop. A rebuild season is about taking risks, and if Rattler doesn’t pan out, we’ll have better draft capital to find our next QB. Right now, the Saints’ problems are systemic, and the only way to fix them is to break things down and start over. Rattler is cheap; Carr is not. I don’t think we’re going to land a franchise QB in this draft or free agency, so the focus should be on building everything else. Let Rattler work through his mistakes-there’s no reason to give up on a rookie this early, especially given the situation he’s in.
Let’s be perfectly honest with ourselves. When we all saw the Saints over/under of 7.5 wins we laughed at Vegas. Plenty of talent on offense plus a new OC, and a returning defense that had elite potential, not to mention a garbage division. The first two games of the year gave us the results we were expecting…….but then what happened? How’s that 8 win payoff looking now? Online sports betting is ruining the game. Rattler/Miller mounted a huge come back against Washington, the team that just upset the hottest team in the league In Philadelphia? But the Saints didn’t win did they? All they did was destroy the spread that everyone was certain Washington would win buy…..Parlay Killer! It was a setup to also make you believe that a +14.5 had a chance against Green Bay, and it also made everyone think Washington would be exposed as a counterfeit against the Eagles. The NFL is scripted.
They still need a QB!! Carr not what they need. Head Coach,Offensive Coach, Defensive Coach (REPLACE) GM LOOMIS got to go. We’ve have to get rid of the Payton, Drew culture. New coaches coming in with new ideas and operations. Team flat out didn’t play!! Just bodies out there. Ms. Benson get it straight.
Oh that would be crazy to try to go find young offensive geniuses for head coach. Why? DR was a great special teams coach. Why not extend Carr’s contract and see if Randy Moss would come back.
List of horrific players vs packers Defense: honey badger, alontae Taylor, ugo Amadi, koolaid, Bryan Payton turner, bresee, Pete Warner, chase young, and Demario Davis. Also Juwan Johnson and Jamal Williams should be cut immediately!!
Can you really put this game on Rizzi? What could he have done differently? We were by far the more undermanned team and the Packers are a Superbowl contender.
Would you say this is more to do with the coaches or lack of talent vs a really good team? It was supposed to be a blowout vs the Commanders but wasn't, the Packers exposed us for what we really are, even if we played this game in NO, it probably wouldn't have been any different. Also, the Saints being the first team to be shutout this season, it's only fitting...
This glorious roster was brought to you by the great accountant, the great can kicker…the architect Mikey Poomis. That’s the head of the snake our biggest issue and he will be the only one to stay. The saints and Pels are exact copies of each other. Going to very lean years for Nola sports.
Get every coach and player out of here, except Kamara and McCoy. Keep Rattler if you think there might be something there. Fire every coach and the rest of the players
Defense is just unforgivable will consistent miss tackles and recivers getting wide open during Dennis Allen final weeks and today Darren Rizzi. Offense really doesnt matter if its Haener and Rattler since the OLine is straight up trash. Are NFL ready OLine prospects really hard to find?
It’s been a few seasons of this defense not being able to tackle fucking pathetic. Plays that should be a loss or no gain turn into chunk plays all season long . Get rid of everyone both sides . Even panthers looking & playing harder than us
We deserved to be shut out. Played like hot garbage all around. Someone please file for missing person on a safety, linebackers , d lineman, interior offensive lineman. Merry christmas yall.
If you ready to write Spencer Rattler off are clearly haters. You can't put a QB in wasteland with no weapons or a line and expect them to be Montana. This staff is garbage this team is garbage
Are you kidding me? Took sacks when Saints were in Field goal range twice? He had so many check downs that he didn't even see. However, QB is not an issue for the Saints. O line, D line, Safeties, LB are. O line can't push for running plays or pass protection. 4 front D line had no pressure whatsoever, LB way to slow to fill the gaps for running plays or cover RB, TE. Safeties are too soft in the middle to fill gaps for running plays or blits. Tyron has got to go, dude is too slow and not physical.
@ Rattler looked well. He still wasn’t fazed by the game I think you low-key hating cause why say all that just too state QB not an issue. Make it make sense
@@DoubleKAllday I don't question his talents rather his decisions. You're at the 35 for 3rd down play. As a QB you cannot take a Sack! On the fumble if you're sacked tucked the ball rather he was trying to do extras.
Honestly, I put this on our line more than anything. Yes, they were all back, but they were still terrible. Our season hinged on their performance, and it's been bad for most games. You can design great plays, but if the quarterback doesn't have time to execute them, or the quarterback is a rookie who panics too quickly, or there are no holes for the running back to go through, then we're cooked.🤷🏿♂️ Don't get me wrong. Rattler isn't being set up for success in this situation either, and Kubiak does have many things he needs to do better.
In so many of your videos you talk about how the front office does not care about box scores. Why are you now saying they can't evaluate players based on the box score. They can evaluate football IQ, knowing the playbook, route running, blocking downfield, coverage, adjustments, pre-snap communication, tackling, angles of pursuit, etc etc. Love your content bro but you made a full 180 with that statement.
Rizzi, kubiak, Joe woods need to be gone. Matthieu, Cam, DD, Carr need to be gone. Mickey (won’t happen) needs to be gone. Training staff needs to be gone. I won’t be watching this team until a total revamp happens. I had much more fun building gingerbread houses and watching Christmas movies last night. Rather than watching this team.
What’s the matter with you man? The game was played by our B and C players. And with Rattler running the show the team looked in complete disarray! But this was not the team that started the first two games of the season and the league was saying we were Superbowl bound. All that is still there they haven’t gone anywhere and we’ll be back next year with everyone healed and mended. So quit crying we will recover and be winners again.
Just like the Loser Raiders fans that blamed carr for losing when the organization is a dumpster fire, these Saints fans want to blame carr too. Those same fans hyped up jimmy g, aiden oconnell, and the Raiders have been bottom 5 in the pass and losing worse than before. Saints fans hype up rattler and winston, and both have done nothing when given the opportunity, but they have this hate towards carr for whatever reason. I hope carr gets released and he goes to a team with a real coach the way sam darnold went to the vikings and he was considered a bust and is having a career year and could end up being 1st seed. Its a team sport coaching matters depth on the roster matters, look at the lions half the roster is hurt but they have good back ups and real coaching. Carr dont deserve to be bashed when hes not even playing yall are real lames.
All rattler bias fans need to come to reality. Neither him or haener are starters. When rattler started haener would come in late in games and move the ball. But When haener became starter, didnt look good. When haener started, Rattler came in and moved the ball, but when rattler became starter didnt look good. That is a BACKUP qb. When will yall understand that.
I’m ready to sell the damn team. It’s the only way we get rid of Mickey Loomis. Mickey is why we are in the predicament we’ve been in the last few years
Anyone who knows football, knows that good teams are built behind solid offensive lines, strong defenses, and good coaching. Until we figure those 3 things out, it doesn't matter who spins the football. Carr is easily levels above Rattler and if that isn't obvious by now, then you simply can't be objective. I like Rattler, and I hope we can develop him into something, but right now, he's shown that he can have a few flashes, but panics too quickly and turns the ball over too much. 🤷🏿♂️👍🏿💯⚜️
Koolaid needs to be benched he don’t wana tackle or freakin cover play Ricko at this point!!! & for the honey badger.. he needa retire like yesterday!!
I wouldn't mind Rizzi as the HC hes a natural leader. But if he is hired you gotta make some major coaching staff changes Defensive side for sure, offense is kinda hard to evaluate because of the injury apocalypse
I wonder if the Carr defenders are still tryna to rag on a rookie qbs 3-4th game. Carr has 15 tds in as many games. Entire team needs reset, STARTING with Carr
So he played 15 games and has 15 touchdowns?🤔 I mean, that's what you're implying. In fact, he is currently ranked 9th in the league in touchdown percentage if we're being unbiased.
@@dl9232 bro no he isn’t omfg your slow. Lamar has over 30 tds. Josh Allen has over 30. So by your logic Derek Carr is better than Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson.
@@dl9232 that’s 1 td a game. Thats bad. Literally nothing you say means anything. He’s never won a playoff game. He never will 😂💯 5-10 35 year old qb who can’t stay healthy yet you would give him 150$ for him to be absent and be mediocre.
@KermitTFYT you literally don't understand basic math. Carr has only played in 10 games. Yet you're trying to use 15 games. 🤦🏿♂️Touchdown percentage is figured using touchdowns divided by attempts. Basic math that is obviously beyond your comprehension. Did you forget to take your meds this morning? As far as Jackson and Allen, they are better quarterbacks. No one is arguing to the contrary. Stating actual facts simply hurts your argument. Both Jackson and Allen have offensive lines that are top 10 in pass block win rate. Carr performing as well as he is behind our line is exceptional. Both Jackson and Allen have also had the same head coach their entire career. Another factor that benefits quarterbacks. 🤷🏿♂️
Something is very wrong with the Saints training staff and training approach. Why do we have SO MANY injuries now almost every year since Drew Brees left???
They just made dynamic stretching a mandatory thing like a month ago. Organization has went to shit since Drew and Sean departed
Look at the Pelicans too. Exact same issues .
That went how i expected. The amount of stiff arms throwing the defense around was crazy. 😂😂😂
Right lol even on defense they were hitting hard 😵 we suck man
It’s a hard time to be a saints fan these last 5 years
Agreed but I’d say 6-7 years it’s been hard to be a saints fan.
Like the 2018 season was amazing but the way it ended was devastating
Backup rookie QB backup RB backup WRs No Taysom Hill I mean what did we expect against a good team
Exactly
I’d say pretty good to almost great they’ve been playing hard
My heart drops everytime I look at the score
No matter how bad a loss is, or how good a win is, I'm still going to be a Saints fan, no matter what. I've been a Saints fan for a while now, and I don't plan on switching teams just because we're having a bad year. Let's just finish off the season with high hopes against the Raiders and Buccaneers and see what happens. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to each and every one of you.
it's time for a COMPLETE rebuild...front office included...
The best thing that could happen to this team is a new GM and a new coaching staff. Period.❤
I don’t understand Klint Kupiak’s play calling at all. Why are you running the ball west to east and not north and south? Calling play action in some horrible situations?
But aside from that, roster construction has been horrible on both sides.
They need to RESET everything.
Nobody that’s on staff right now should be on staff next season
Rebuild BIG TIME. Hopefully soon we will have a good team again. I love my Saints ⚜
We all just have to hope and wait. I have faith
Tyran needs to hang it up…..guy has been getting manhandled all season!!! He’s a weasel…..not a Honey Badger!!
With the injuries this year it surprises me they won 5 games. But this team is bad. From the coaches to the water boys .
Over the past 2 years Winston 0-3, Haener 0-1, Rattler 0-4, and Carr 14-13. Everyone complains about Carr, the fact is Carr has had to play with the same players as the other QBs and somehow still has a winning record. Carr is not the problem. He sits injured with a 101 QB rating.
The way DC4 overachieves with this horrific team is amazing. It's insane how much he is able to carry a bad team. He's clearly and absolutely the best thing the Saints have going.
I actually believe Carr did better with less, during this and last season. I don't believe any veteran on this Saints team, on both the offense and defense, supported Carr off the field as much as they should have. I think if they did, this team would be so much further along because they all would be moving in the same direction and playing like a team. It never looked like this Saints team has played as a team in the past 2 years. This team needs a coach like Andy Reid who players fear so he can call out the cancers on the team.
Carr is mid. We need better than mid
Don’t leave out the details when you say things like this..I can say Carr has been the best option but he’s horrible against contending teams and his backups has mostly played contenders while he was injured and he hand picked easy games to make his return
Same ole raiders fans defending their truly missed father
felt like they gave up in the 1st qtr. Can't even think of anything to say honestly. Terrible game.
JAMES IS SO FUNNY WHEN HES MAD
This was pros vs peewee
This was just extra day of practice for the packers.
The O-line is absolutely horrible play calling is trash please don’t bring him back how can you evaluate anyone behind a bad O-line and horrible play calling make it make sense
Still scratching my head the guy I met the day the saints were crushing the cowboys that said they need to get rattler in there.. that kid is special!!
A resounding yes! And yes!
We loose this game wit or without carr he wouldn't of made a difference 💯💯
Maybe but they have a better chance
@erndez2361 that's true but at the end of the day we still need a much better qb than DC he just not the answer
KK is trash. Do not bring back.
Draft. TWO QBs, as we have none. At all.
Fire Mickey Loomis, hire a good GM.
We couldn’t get close enough for our BEST player to score three points.
Shameful ship
Draft 2 QB's??? Jezus Christ..
@@1B2B-ReyAin a terrible QB draft. They aren’t going QB early or at all.
@@NDMatrix I wouldn't go qb at all. They have got to get better all around.
@ yea I agree and this a a quick rebuild. Gonna be a long road with this roster.
@@NDMatrix with the right OC that knows how to call plays. A RT, LB, CB and a better training staff. They can be a .500 team.
Getting beat up on man it’s sad god I’m ready for change just be able to compete
After that amazing performance the Saints are a -1.5 favorite over the Raiders. Very confusing
Now you're defending our draft classes?
Come on man. We haven't drafted well for the last 5 years, too many role players and not enough starters.
This is a draft issue, a pro personnel issue, a scheme issue, a culture issue, a philosophy issue.
Stop giving the people in this front office an out, you're not helping.
Nobody in a TH-cam comment section is helping brother. We are just fans. The choices of the organization are not affected by us in anyway. You aren't helping
I've seen fans be a part of removing oligarchs from a team. Once fans realize the power of fan opinion and fan pressure, we could actually do something again here.
stream was fun at least 🤣merry Christmas man
The Saints should be now, Grateful and Appreciative that they have Carr. Great and experienced QB's are not a dime a dozens
Carr isn’t great by any stretch lol serviceable yeah, but he’s not great.
@@KevD720fam carr a mid level qb at best I don't know wat most of these people watchin they can't be watchin the games 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@chrisshowers2192, they're watching a quarterback who is behind a bottom 5 offensive line, with some very inconsistent playcalling, throwing to guys who would be on most team's practice squads, still be in the top 10 (or just outside) in passer rating, completion percentage, QBR, and touchdown percentage. Him and Kamara should be commended for their production, not condemned. 🤷🏿♂️⚜️💯
I'm in Ireland and was going to stay up for this one seeing it's Christmas, glad I didn't bother
Rizzi’s ceiling isn’t high man. There’s no reason for you to get shutout. You couldn’t even kick a fg. Embarrassing. Just keep losing from here on out. What’s the point of winning at this point? Rizzi ain’t getting the job anyway. Let Rizzi and Kubiak go. Everything starts with Loomis. Mrs B needs to make this change and fire Loomis or this team will never get out of this cap hole!!!!!
Get Chucky Jon Gruden as Head Coach!
Draft:
Wr
Wr
Wr
Wr
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Please and thank you! Maybe 1 RB as well tho?
And 2 maybe 3 QBs
Amon Ra St brown has 100 catches this year. Olave and shaheed combined have 50
We need need another offensive lineman and then receivers.
Until we build a competent o-line, none of that will do much good.
Plus to add, I have nothing on this game except that I expected the Packers to win but that we could keep it competitive but we got shut out which we are the first team to do that this season which is pathetic and embarrassing.
KK couldn’t scheme us to FG range but once, and
INT!
Shameful
Being a Saints fan, it's only fitting that we are the first team to shutout all year. The Saints on the wrong side of history again.
Pack fan here , why did you let Payton go, he’s a great coach?
Great Show James!
Top 5 Draft Pick Coming Soon!
They'll trade it away 😅
@carllaborde8204 lol
The answer is, to get all the team healthy in the off season. Then in the off season Carr and all the top 10 players need to do 2 things: 1. Ridged Physical Reconditioning to the point they are hard as nails. 2. Prevention, have management and coaching staff seek out injury prevention methods that can scientifically teach moves and awareness that can overt the unforeseen injuries. Remember, the first two games in this season were close to perfection.
The league had us slated to be Super Bowl bound.
I’ve always said Carr isn’t the problem if anything he’s helped us. Where’s all the Carr haters now?
I agree. I think it’s the high standards and wanting to have 300 yards and 3 touchdowns. And a division so bad we believe we can win it but injuries we can expect that you know
Let everybody sit out that good
I agree
We don’t need to evaluate rattler ever again
Did Kendre Miller play? When I tuned in, it was 24-0. 😮
If you want to get right play the saints. It’s levels to this
Can’t wait for a total reset
The glorious GM will give Rizzi the job, nothing will change and absolutely no positions of need will be drafted and he’ll keep all the aging players, maybe extend a few or restructure a few.
CEH 10 years 100M guaranteed.
This will not be 100% true and it concerns me if youre this negative . We are not the Jaguars. We havent been this bad in years who knows what will happen in the offseason.
I wouldn't put this game on Rizzi. The Packers were just FLAT OUT the better team.
The coaching staffs should be gone after this season. Changes are needed and the off-season overhaul changes have to happen. New HC which has to be a impact and quality HC, new offensive and defensive coaching staffs, new GM and front office, need to nail the draft by drafting best available player on every pick and cut the crap that includes cutting Carr on post June 1st.
Ten trillion percent true.
Keep Grupe tho. He’s legit our best player
Why does one name always appear (carr)? Did you not watch the game. He had nothing to do with what just happened. Guys got manhandled all game.
@@1B2B-ReyAare you saying Carr deserves a contract extension?
@@KermitTFYT I'm saying what we just watched wasn't on him, HE DIDN'T PLAY. What we saw was a problem at EVERY POSITION.
@@KermitTFYT, we came into this season knowing that it hinged on the offensive line. If they performed well, then we had a chance at a good season. If they didn't, it would be rough. Not only did they not perform well, they performed exceptionally bad. Then, we suffered an alarming amount of injuries at key positions. But yeah, it's all the quarterback's fault once again. That's some serious surface-level analysis. 🤷🏿♂️⚜️
We can’t judge Rattler and Rizzi to the fullest extent when we have no Weapons (Olave, Shaheed) Kamara missed this game. We have high school players on our team pretending to be NFL talent. O-Line is banged up as usual. If they gave Allen another opportunity because of injury you should do the same for Rizzi.
O line is completely healthy
@ how about the weapons?
I thought we'd be down 14 pts at the most
Fire everyone, even the owner, it’s not going to get better for years, we’re in salary cap hell, and we can’t unload this old ass team, I’ve seen better football from a Jr college team
Out of respect and love as a Saints fan, Cameron Jordan, Tyrann Mathieu, and Demario Davis need to retire after this season. This game showed that they're in the twilight of their career but simply put that they are done.
Gayle needs to hire a great GM.
Ie fire Mickey today
Unfortunately owners can’t get fired. Why you think Jerry Jones still there in Dallas lmao
I want to hear from Mickey somebody need to interview him
The New Orleans saints office line is trash
Derek Carr needs to start next week so he can lose to the Raiders and complete his destiny as the NFL all time loser
So many haters focused on that stat. The guys with losses to 30 teams includes Drew Brees, Brett Favre, Carson Palmer, Joe Flacco, Drew Bledsoe, Jon Kitna, Alex Smith, and Matt Hasselbeck. It seems it is a stat that is reflective of 2 things. Being on bad teams and longevity.🤷🏿♂️⚜️
Saints drafted good players. They just don't know how to use them. Zack Baun is a perfect example. They have too many old players that are getting paid way too much and not producing. Kubiak is just not what I've expected. There's not enough misdirection or trick plays from the offense all year long. Ratler is not ready to be a NFL QB yet. His decisions are awful. 3 times in field goal range and he took sacks when he could have dumped it off for checkdowns. RB was wide open for checkdowns for those plays.
Aints suck. Been a fan since the late 70s. Seen this show.
Kubiak might be TOP 5 worst in the LEAGUE
I think it’s time to shift into rebuild mode. We need to move on from Carr-not because he’s bad, but because he’s average and comes with the cost of a high-end QB. Cap space is one of our biggest issues, and freeing that up should be a priority. The focus should be on adding young talent and making smart moves in free agency.
I think we should keep starting Rattler-not because he’s great right now, but because he could be. We won’t know unless we give him support and let him develop. A rebuild season is about taking risks, and if Rattler doesn’t pan out, we’ll have better draft capital to find our next QB.
Right now, the Saints’ problems are systemic, and the only way to fix them is to break things down and start over. Rattler is cheap; Carr is not. I don’t think we’re going to land a franchise QB in this draft or free agency, so the focus should be on building everything else. Let Rattler work through his mistakes-there’s no reason to give up on a rookie this early, especially given the situation he’s in.
Let’s be perfectly honest with ourselves. When we all saw the Saints over/under of 7.5 wins we laughed at Vegas. Plenty of talent on offense plus a new OC, and a returning defense that had elite potential, not to mention a garbage division. The first two games of the year gave us the results we were expecting…….but then what happened? How’s that 8 win payoff looking now? Online sports betting is ruining the game. Rattler/Miller mounted a huge come back against Washington, the team that just upset the hottest team in the league In Philadelphia? But the Saints didn’t win did they? All they did was destroy the spread that everyone was certain Washington would win buy…..Parlay Killer! It was a setup to also make you believe that a +14.5 had a chance against Green Bay, and it also made everyone think Washington would be exposed as a counterfeit against the Eagles. The NFL is scripted.
They still need a QB!! Carr not what they need. Head Coach,Offensive Coach, Defensive Coach (REPLACE) GM LOOMIS got to go. We’ve have to get rid of the Payton, Drew culture. New coaches coming in with new ideas and operations. Team flat out didn’t play!! Just bodies out there. Ms. Benson get it straight.
Oh that would be crazy to try to go find young offensive geniuses for head coach. Why? DR was a great special teams coach. Why not extend Carr’s contract and see if Randy Moss would come back.
Randy Moss has cancer Are you being serious???
@ did not know Randy Moss has cancer. Very sad and a bit frightening to learn.
@sweeabn6736 yes he has Pancreatic cancer
I don’t think Rattler is to blame we’re gonna suck its growing pains
I truly believe rattler isn’t the problem. Dude is playing with absolute bums. Walmart employee receivers and Oline
List of horrific players vs packers Defense: honey badger, alontae Taylor, ugo Amadi, koolaid, Bryan Payton turner, bresee, Pete Warner, chase young, and Demario Davis.
Also Juwan Johnson and Jamal Williams should be cut immediately!!
Yea, they beat the brakes off us
Kinda proves Rizzi isnt ready to be head guy.
Can you really put this game on Rizzi? What could he have done differently? We were by far the more undermanned team and the Packers are a Superbowl contender.
😢😢😢
Would you say this is more to do with the coaches or lack of talent vs a really good team? It was supposed to be a blowout vs the Commanders but wasn't, the Packers exposed us for what we really are, even if we played this game in NO, it probably wouldn't have been any different. Also, the Saints being the first team to be shutout this season, it's only fitting...
This glorious roster was brought to you by the great accountant, the great can kicker…the architect Mikey Poomis. That’s the head of the snake our biggest issue and he will be the only one to stay. The saints and Pels are exact copies of each other. Going to very lean years for Nola sports.
Bro😭
Should be the end for the whole shebang.
Fire everyone. It really is that bad.
Get every coach and player out of here, except Kamara and McCoy. Keep Rattler if you think there might be something there. Fire every coach and the rest of the players
Not more than any one on earth Jeff stop there even if u watch every game people played for years
Kubiak is not good at developing or play calling. FIRE HIM
You were just raving about Miller stop it
Saints only had 2 plays inside the GB 30. Both were turnovers.
And they didn’t believe Chicken Little the sky is falling 😂😂😭😭👀🔥🗑️🗑️🗑️💩⚜️⚜️⚜️
Defense is just unforgivable will consistent miss tackles and recivers getting wide open during Dennis Allen final weeks and today Darren Rizzi.
Offense really doesnt matter if its Haener and Rattler since the OLine is straight up trash. Are NFL ready OLine prospects really hard to find?
It’s been a few seasons of this defense not being able to tackle fucking pathetic. Plays that should be a loss or no gain turn into chunk plays all season long . Get rid of everyone both sides . Even panthers looking & playing harder than us
We deserved to be shut out. Played like hot garbage all around. Someone please file for missing person on a safety, linebackers , d lineman, interior offensive lineman. Merry christmas yall.
If you ready to write Spencer Rattler off are clearly haters. You can't put a QB in wasteland with no weapons or a line and expect them to be Montana. This staff is garbage this team is garbage
Are you kidding me? Took sacks when Saints were in Field goal range twice? He had so many check downs that he didn't even see. However, QB is not an issue for the Saints. O line, D line, Safeties, LB are. O line can't push for running plays or pass protection. 4 front D line had no pressure whatsoever, LB way to slow to fill the gaps for running plays or cover RB, TE. Safeties are too soft in the middle to fill gaps for running plays or blits. Tyron has got to go, dude is too slow and not physical.
@ Rattler looked well. He still wasn’t fazed by the game I think you low-key hating cause why say all that just too state QB not an issue. Make it make sense
@@DoubleKAllday I don't question his talents rather his decisions. You're at the 35 for 3rd down play. As a QB you cannot take a Sack! On the fumble if you're sacked tucked the ball rather he was trying to do extras.
that is completely inaccurate. You’re trynna downplay him when your statement has no substance
The whole offense were all back besides the LT and RT the OC is a joke he should be ashamed of himself
Honestly, I put this on our line more than anything. Yes, they were all back, but they were still terrible. Our season hinged on their performance, and it's been bad for most games. You can design great plays, but if the quarterback doesn't have time to execute them, or the quarterback is a rookie who panics too quickly, or there are no holes for the running back to go through, then we're cooked.🤷🏿♂️ Don't get me wrong. Rattler isn't being set up for success in this situation either, and Kubiak does have many things he needs to do better.
What do we say? We say THEY SUCK!
In so many of your videos you talk about how the front office does not care about box scores. Why are you now saying they can't evaluate players based on the box score. They can evaluate football IQ, knowing the playbook, route running, blocking downfield, coverage, adjustments, pre-snap communication, tackling, angles of pursuit, etc etc.
Love your content bro but you made a full 180 with that statement.
Rizzi, kubiak, Joe woods need to be gone.
Matthieu, Cam, DD, Carr need to be gone.
Mickey (won’t happen) needs to be gone.
Training staff needs to be gone.
I won’t be watching this team until a total revamp happens. I had much more fun building gingerbread houses and watching Christmas movies last night. Rather than watching this team.
The Saints should be now, Grateful and Appreciative that they have Carr. Great and experienced QB's are not a dime a dozen.
The DC4 haters are still out in force, defending Rattler and pretending that DC4 would have laid a goose egg....they are literally insane.
Who is your favorite team? No way you think Carr is great lol. He may not be the worst but definitely not great
Carr isn't great and he plays like the leagues oldest rookie
Clean house
What’s the matter with you man? The game was played by our B and C players. And with Rattler running the show the team looked in complete disarray!
But this was not the team that started the first two games of the season and the league was saying we were Superbowl bound.
All that is still there they haven’t gone anywhere and we’ll be back next year with everyone healed and mended. So quit crying we will recover and be winners again.
You got to evaluate tonight didnt you? You just dont like the evaluation. DC makes this shit look palatable.
100%
Would’nt have been any different with Carr playing
It's amazing how much DC4 is able to carry the horrific Saints lineups of the last two seasons and make the team routinely competitive.
So what would of happened if Derek Carr played with our Wr’s Derek has had for the most part our WRs Ts is cooked blow it up
@@geoffhoutman1557 lol
hey... don't talk bad on Emmanuel Wilson ... Fort Valley State product who was a beast for us in Da Valley LoL #whoDat ... but yeh. We're down bad
Just like the Loser Raiders fans that blamed carr for losing when the organization is a dumpster fire, these Saints fans want to blame carr too. Those same fans hyped up jimmy g, aiden oconnell, and the Raiders have been bottom 5 in the pass and losing worse than before. Saints fans hype up rattler and winston, and both have done nothing when given the opportunity, but they have this hate towards carr for whatever reason. I hope carr gets released and he goes to a team with a real coach the way sam darnold went to the vikings and he was considered a bust and is having a career year and could end up being 1st seed. Its a team sport coaching matters depth on the roster matters, look at the lions half the roster is hurt but they have good back ups and real coaching. Carr dont deserve to be bashed when hes not even playing yall are real lames.
All rattler bias fans need to come to reality. Neither him or haener are starters. When rattler started haener would come in late in games and move the ball. But When haener became starter, didnt look good. When haener started, Rattler came in and moved the ball, but when rattler became starter didnt look good. That is a BACKUP qb. When will yall understand that.
I’m ready to sell the damn team. It’s the only way we get rid of Mickey Loomis. Mickey is why we are in the predicament we’ve been in the last few years
WHY TF DO STILL PPL TALKING ABOUT CARR. Rattlerrrr is the QB period who tf wants Carr trash ass back this season or next season.
Anyone who knows football, knows that good teams are built behind solid offensive lines, strong defenses, and good coaching. Until we figure those 3 things out, it doesn't matter who spins the football. Carr is easily levels above Rattler and if that isn't obvious by now, then you simply can't be objective. I like Rattler, and I hope we can develop him into something, but right now, he's shown that he can have a few flashes, but panics too quickly and turns the ball over too much. 🤷🏿♂️👍🏿💯⚜️
panic?? Lmfaooooooo. You Carr fans SHOULDVE been swallowed by ya parents. Nobody wants Carr back on this team homie.
MICKEY LOOMIS IS TOO BLAME FOR ALL OF THIS!!!!! FIRE MICKEY LOOMIS!!!
This was the worse Saints showing of all time!
Losing to the Falcons 62 - 7 … is the worst ever
Why did they stick with Rattler? LOTS of over the hill dudes on this roster. LOTS of mediocre players on this roster
Because he's young and mobile.🤣
@@dl9232 He's awful
@@captaindeluxe7328 to be fair, we haven't given any quarterback a fair chance since Brees left.
@@dl9232 The bar was set pretty high there
@@captaindeluxe7328 💯
Koolaid needs to be benched he don’t wana tackle or freakin cover play Ricko at this point!!! & for the honey badger.. he needa retire like yesterday!!
Yea koolaid is ass man . He looks timid af when it comes to tackling & always looks lost out there
Rattler for president and starting QB and the Carr haters, hate because they don’t like God and his beliefs.
I wouldn't mind Rizzi as the HC hes a natural leader. But if he is hired you gotta make some major coaching staff changes Defensive side for sure, offense is kinda hard to evaluate because of the injury apocalypse
I wonder if the Carr defenders are still tryna to rag on a rookie qbs 3-4th game. Carr has 15 tds in as many games. Entire team needs reset, STARTING with Carr
So he played 15 games and has 15 touchdowns?🤔 I mean, that's what you're implying. In fact, he is currently ranked 9th in the league in touchdown percentage if we're being unbiased.
@@dl9232 bro no he isn’t omfg your slow. Lamar has over 30 tds. Josh Allen has over 30. So by your logic Derek Carr is better than Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson.
@@dl9232 that’s 1 td a game. Thats bad. Literally nothing you say means anything. He’s never won a playoff game. He never will 😂💯 5-10 35 year old qb who can’t stay healthy yet you would give him 150$ for him to be absent and be mediocre.
@KermitTFYT you literally don't understand basic math. Carr has only played in 10 games. Yet you're trying to use 15 games. 🤦🏿♂️Touchdown percentage is figured using touchdowns divided by attempts. Basic math that is obviously beyond your comprehension. Did you forget to take your meds this morning?
As far as Jackson and Allen, they are better quarterbacks. No one is arguing to the contrary. Stating actual facts simply hurts your argument. Both Jackson and Allen have offensive lines that are top 10 in pass block win rate. Carr performing as well as he is behind our line is exceptional. Both Jackson and Allen have also had the same head coach their entire career. Another factor that benefits quarterbacks. 🤷🏿♂️
If Jeanty at #10 grab him.
Milroe AND Gabriel.
Linemen and weapons and for the love of God, New GM!
If Carr played the score would’ve been 34-7 lol
Loomis and Carr and Harley gotta go too. Completely rebuild. Dump all these inflated veteran contracts. Go young
Spencer just needs pieces around him IMMEDIATELY this team sucks dog shyt