I think your problem is you view everything through the lens of a hard-core player. For people who play other games or don't play every day the squad building aspect has improved drastically over the recent years
Well said mate nep won’t even read your comment coz he’s a self indulgent horrible man he’s just spewing a narrative he earns thousands a week to regurgitate the same shite content & then blames the game. Don’t get me wrong the game is shite but nep is a just a wanker😂
For me, the fact that you can get an amazing team without spending money is awesome and the variety of teams that you can build now is awesome especially with evos. The problem I have is the gameplay is so unenjoyable. It’s a heavy sweaty mess and you can’t keep up unless you use the meta cards.
i agree with you here, i actually think FC 25 is decent, didnt rate 24 at all but this one aint bad, got a fairly decent squad. But trying to compete in just rivals let alone champs is a sweatfest and its not enjoyable at all
You are correct but unfortunately what you are describing isn't a game issue that can be fixed. It's a community issue, everyone is so obsessed with winning and rewards that they would rather be winning and bored (and ultimately disappointed once they open their rewards no doubt) than actually having fun and building fun teams with their favorite IRL players or players from their supported club/nation.
One thing I miss so much is the slow but constant upgrading you could do to your squad back in the day. For the first two months of the game each rivals and champs reward would allow you make an upgrade to the team. Sometimes smaller like going from a Bellerin to a Valencia and sometimes something big. Whatever it was there was a much better sense of constant improvement where as now it feels stagnant so fast
I agree with what you’re saying I think having a new promo every week has affected it in a bad direction I don’t know if people would agree with me on this but I remember saving my rivals rewards sometimes for a couple of weeks for the chance of a bigger upgrade I think flooding the market with hundreds of cards that are basically the same just with a different face on has cause this 95% to the 100% issue bro talks about
I remember how important monthly rewards were and they were just informs 😂 if you came up against someone with good monthly you knew you were in for a game
@@brendengoldsmith860 The promo cards & ridiculous amount of packs has been a HUGE part of why gameplay is the way it is. Imagine how boring football games would be, irl, if every player was Messi level. It would make the actual Messi worthless; well it’s exactly the same in game as irl…
The day they added untradeables was the day RTGs died for me. 99% of teams are full untradeable, kills the market for your average card. I miss the days where you only got coins from playing the game and getting promoted in divisions, and average cards like 79 David Luiz or 81 Sturridge were over 10k - you really had to grind playing the game to upgrade your team, nowadays you get a sick team from barely any menu grinding
literally spot on, the fact that they will never go back to this is so depressing, i miss packing a 79-82 rated card and selling it for 10-15k and grinding for a upgrade
I agree with you on a lot of things with this game, but EA FC/FIFA is honestly the first game where i feel like the biggest problem is not the company, but the player base. EA make tons of mistakes, but so many things are just not fixable because the player base ruins it themselves. Rush/Friendlies: -rubberbanding just to do objectives, no one ACTUALLY wants to play, everyone just tries to waste the least time of their day to get the rewards Champs/Rivals: -No one wants to find their own tactics and playstyle and play good football, everyone just copies the pros, learns how to kick off glitch and corner glitch and what not - just to get the best rewards and sell any player they pack to get the best meta players that everyone is using People always say "well then EA should patch kick off, 5ATB, corners, Trivelas etc"... BUT IT DOES NOT MATTER, if they fix it, something else will be overpowered and one or two days post patch Team Gullit will make a tiktok about it and everyone abuses the new broken mechanics again. When it comes to RTGs, its not "too easy", but i realized this weekend how many people actually spend loads of money on FIFA points... i played a few players with 5m+ teams which were not first owner, so unless they packed a Dinho or R9, those were P2W accounts and once again, the community is just too willing to spend money, because they are too lazy to grind RTG accounts.
For me, I find a coach I want and then stick to their tactics/roles. I force myself to use only players with + or ++ roles in my starting XI, then fill the Ben h and reserves with best available by position group. I am probably missing out but all those green cards (Squad something or other) I don’t get rid of. Only special cards I get rid of in SBCs are the TOTW because they are requirements. Wish the matchmaking was a little better - maybe lock in your squad first and search similar tiered squads (by value perhaps?). Winning in Rivals is a slog for me, so I only do Evos wheee the goal is to play Rivals, not win them lol. If it’s any other like the Friendlies, Rush, or EVO Arena I don’t even bother. Didn’t play it last year (got the game in March) but I have been having a blast this year.
I completely agree with you! This playerbase has gotten used to thinking spending money is the normal way to play. It's becoming like NBA2K. The proplayer tactics copying has been the main reason for me to almost quit the game. Every single game is 442 with the same pro player tactics with 8/11 of the same players used.
Why did they get rid of the full 20 team (or however many teams were in that league) league sbcs with the promo player as the group reward? It gave value to pretty much all players and it was good fun. I remember fifa 17 getting an 87 Lacazette from the Ligue 1 sbc. Now look at these ‘league sbcs’ in comparison. 8 years later and significantly worse and boring. So sad
They removed them just because of how the game has changeed a high rated card would be pointless for a league sbc nowadays due to promos imo fifa21 had the same style of leagues sbcs has u had to use the same league but it gave the new style of the games with the amount of packs
because it allowed people to make coins organically without spending money on fifa points. As Nep said, people could grind and make money through either completing the SBCs, or selling the players. Now there is little to no way of making coins without buying packs.
Forget West Brom and Cheltenham, I'm a Walsall fan. We've got 2 silvers and the rest all bronze. Theres currently 2 Evo's available to me to put a Walsall player in. I cant even do the goal crazy Evo as none of the bronzes have the minimum shooting requirement 😭 We had a player last year score a hat-trick and an assist in a 4-0 win, never got a look in for an IF. Imagine an 80 rated IF for a team like ours? It'd be something to actually get hyped about when running an RTG. They should put 2 Evo's up that you could do say twice a week. A bronze one and a silver one. No requirements and just gives a simple +1 or whatever. Giving up on it already and gonna just run the main account.
Yeah they need to be releasing MULTIPLE bronze evos for you lads every other day for different positions, it ain’t hard and it ain’t gonna affect anyone in the slightest apart from boost your low low rated teams. Luckily my evo team start off gold below 79 rated for all of them
@@standard2057 they actually make more money as well, when I don’t have the coins for a good Evo, I’ve put some FP on my account, I’d never touch them for store packs. There’s surely a lot of people that do the same as well
@@immortalreaper8389 or just make a champs for during the week that has different requirements every week, means you’ll have to use different players and see different teams. People will say it’s a lot of games, but you don’t HAVE to play every single mode
Nep i’m gonna say this as a long time subscriber and fan of you and your content…I was so turned off to fifa youtube and your content and really just fifa in general a couple years ago but as an arsenal fan and someone who is not the best at the game i really really enjoy this series. I think this is the best content you’ve made in a while and the fact that you are just using the players you like is really what ultimate team is all about. Stay patient with this account I think a lot of people are really enjoying this and are upgrading their team at the same pace. I don’t care if the team doesn’t change from episode to episode i will still watch every episode as long as you keep playing the game how you want to play it and not how everyone else wants you to play it. Keep on pushing and Let’s Go Gunners!!
I think the big issue is that there is no middle tier market. There is build a 100k squad or build a 1 mil coin squad and the only difference of that squad is one player. And then it’s a grind to get more players like that one player you swapped like there’s 2 gold cards over a mil Vini and Mbappe. Every other gold cards is 500k or less but they’re cheap cause they’re not super meta they’re just average
Fr, every champs team you play now has the exact same overpowered defenders and I don’t have a problem going up against the cards. The part that gets me is you have to worry about op goalie rushes, and goalie movement and the defenders are already hard enough to break down as it is. It’s straight up unenjoyable.
The grind pleases the human mind... we lost that, it's way too easy now. I remember in FIFA 13 I saved up after playing for weeks to finally buy Falcao for like 60k, he was 89 rated and it took me weeks and the excitement when I could finally get him was amazing, now I can get a player like that in a couple days...
Years ago my favorite thing ever to watch was AirJapes path to power. The way he would always list his whole team up at the end of the episode to make a profit and then buy a new team for the next episode was always so cool
My problem with the game is I don’t understand why every player I match with uses the same team. It’s obvious part of the fun is using new players / players you like / sentimental players. Instead everyone just going for meta for wins to pack those same players they bought with money 🤷🏻♂️
Think this might be the first year I don't get the game, if I do it'll be when it's much lower in price. I used to pre order the game every year, then since Fifa 19/20 I waited until Black Friday sales, now this year I don't think it's worth buying a game that causes more stress than fun.
I agree, RTGs are dead. Most TH-camrs RTGs are million coin teams. The best RTGs ever were SpencerFC's. He made each episode fun and special. Loved them Add self imposed rules and rewards, add cross over events with other TH-cam RTGs or fans. Add negative consequences for certain events like a discard or a downgrade. Be creative, which I think almost RTGs are not.
The biggest issue with FUT is how the amount of fun you have directly correlates to if you win games or pack good players. I can play COD for 3 hours and not even notice whether I win or lose, I’m just focused on playing well and trying different guns/ drinking camos etc
I have been grinding a Canada team and I've been grinding to get all the evos done. I play every night and I still haven't maxed out the team yet. I'm enjoying this RTG. I used to do Italian teams but now i can do a lower team like Canada and still get some decent players. Not every evo is for me but there are lots. I am having fun going from a 67 rated squad to an 80 rated squad. Arsenal is a stacked team and I guess its too easy which is why I didn't pick Italy for my RTG. cheers.
I agree with you but the problem I run into a lot is that I evo my low tier players and end up with a card that is 80-85 rated with 65 stamina and that is already reason to not use the card because you have to take it out at halftime
I agree. I've been working on a Japan/Korea first owner "poor man" RTG and whilst it's undoubtedly going to be easier than a Canadian one, it's been great fun so far. Finally packed a Kaoru Mitoma yesterday and it's the happiest I think I've ever been to pack an 81-rated gold rare player over a month into the game cycle :D
@@filipfico4449i have subbed out zero players this year and havent had much of a problem. Using players who arent great in every way is part of the challenge.
@@SuperKMxyea and Im saving my coins and fodder cuz i dont gotta buy lots of players. Dont have to play any game mode for coins just play what i want when i want. Its way more fun this way.
I still manage to do a Blackburn past and present RTG and I’m loving it and yeah I might not be able to use RTG mbappes or even a saka but I get to use my favourite players irl in the game to the point where anything I pack is just fodder 🤣🤣🤣
I disagree with the "RTGs are dead" line. I agree that, in terms of a TH-cam series where you used to have to grind for a decent team, that's gone, but for the more casual player (such as myself), it improves year on year. Without having to spend any money, or invest a crazy amount of time, I can now get a really nice team, get some good evo'd players from my favourite team, and compete in rivals (and occasionally champs) with a half-decent team. Whilst it's less of a standard, year-long TH-cam series now, I think RTGs are better than ever :)
I understand the sentiments and I think most on here will just attack ea (in the comments) But tbf to them it’s what we asked for, for years…. We always did menu grinding and yourself and others always asked for a reason to play the game. Give us packs for games etc. The more they’ve done that the more we complain it’s too easy.. I think for EA they probably feel like they can’t win with the community. Ps love your stuff and hopefully see this and would like your thoughts.
Just make less untraceable packs then it may help and less promo teams. Give 2-3 weeks to grind to players rather than get a player and a week later they are already worthless
@@Jaxxx365 the very odd occasion they don’t have a promo team in packs, the whole community goes crazy online, I don’t see a way in which they can go back from it now. Plus so promo team means no store packs are bought
@@Jaxxx365 I remember for years folk like nep saying give us packs (even untradeables) just for playing the game which we now get but it’s turning more hardcore folk away. As I think sales are at a record high?
@@pawpatrol67 they did a silver objective week a couple year back (I actually liked this btw) and I couldn’t believe how much hate it got online, probably puts them off trying to do anything different again
Another thing I don't think EA realise is that by giving everyone those 95% teams within the first month, it kills anyone's interest in the longevity of the game. I'm personally on PC, and have a very strong team with some spare coins, however those 'top-tier' meta players that I would have to purchase to improve my team cost millions upon millions of coins. The best in the game are practically extinct (due to the hacker issue I know). So what am I meant to do now?
I think you punish yourself by trying to pack all the players. I don’t know if you are still in contact with some of the F8tal players, but Raoul had a fun series called Pokefifa where he put personal objectives on upgrading his players. Maybe this is a way you can do your RTG. Like score 10 goals before I can put a player in the evo, where you show the progress during the video. Currently, we as the viewers don’t benefit/enjoy you just opening packs until you finally pack the player you want to evo
It's something that's almost impossible to fix now. It's more the player bases fault than EAs because of the constant demand for content and the constant willingness to part with their money on FC points. For me personally I'd love for EA to come out next year and say they're going back to basics and slowing the progression way down by reducing SBCs, objectives, rewards etc. It will never happen though as loads of the current player base will leave taking their £££ with them. Only other thing they can do is offset the volume of content by reducing the starting ratings of all the cards. That way the option to be constantly upgrading your team is there again and people aren't running around with 90+ cards a month into the game cycle
As much as I get all you points here as a casual player who only gets to play for a few hours after work a few days a week it does really improve the replayability because I feel like I can consistently improve my team without having to spend money.
I slightly disagree. This year i have an RTG based around 3 marque players that i have enjoyed over the years (Benteke, Embolo and Renato Sanches) yes its hard to get a good champs result at the moment. But i much rather play with players i enjoy and an average team than with a full meta team that looks exactly like everyo ones elses team. Im currentry in Div 2 and the feeling you get every time you beat a full meta team is worth the struggels
This game is the least "fun" I've ever experienced on any video game Horrid gameplay bs meta shit every game zero skill dumb mechanics Menu grind stinks Rewards absolutely stink for most part It's just unenjoyable crap this year and it's October
I have an England team. I'm looking to evo as many as I can. I don't care how many games I lose anymore, just want to have fun in D3-2. I'm way older now too, I made a conscious decision not to spend on the game this year just feeling the pain of coins left once again in the previous Fifa of 24. I'm much more content in my Fifa life now 👍
For me as a casual player who plays minimal during the week and a couple hours in the weekend, this is very good. I can enjoy a decent team without having to put in too many hours.
For the casual player like myself in terms of ultimate team this is the best it's been in years, for hard core everyday players this probably isn't the case, but the casual players make the majority.
I think one of the biggest issues over the last 2-3 FIFA games (FIFA23, EAFC24 and EAFC25) is that there is no creativity in special cards. They're always releasing the same players over and over again. So unless you've had amazing pack luck, most RTGs will heavily rely on SBC/OBJ players. It feels like until Jan/Feb we're always building similar teams cause it's always the same players getting promos.
You know when I started having fun on this game - when I uninstalled it! Give yourself a mental health check for a week and you will feel the benefit. Play something else - have a holiday.
It’s absolutely crazy to think nep and other u tubers can discuss issues with eafc and find pretty easy solutions for the problem but yet multimillion company and there staff can’t fix the issues imagine they go through all fifa eafc from like say 17 to 25 and pick certain things combine them in to a game omg would be best game ever
I think the content creator who has the most "fun" is Zwe. He always looks likes he's having a quality time. I've settled for a hybrid of my favourite club evos and using some strong players in key areas. I have 900k and my team is untradable and I am enjoying using the evos I have. What is stopping EA from making promo teams larger as well to include those smaller clubs that people support. Why are promo teams so small? I'm not saying they need to be 89 rated top tier but even having the low 85 rated Portsmouth player would be amazing in a promo team.
Jack's right all they care about is money it's why every year you will see basically the same players or the same clubs getting promo cards you might get a few objective cards that are totally different but that's about it
Poor take I think Nep. Look at how Zwe and how he plays RTG...builds cheap fun squads with plenty of grindable sbc cards and it’s a changing landscape. It’s because you’ve cornered yourself into a little niche that you’re bored.
You were talking about stats I do wish at the end of the year they gave you a club overall breakdown with every player you’ve used with games goals and assists forgotten so many great players I had on fifa
Have you considered a time limited RTG? 2 hours per day max Monday - Friday, 4 hours per day max Saturday to Sunday. You play 8+ hours per day, most days. It’s not realistic for the average player to play that amount and not what the game is built for. Restricting your game time would ensure you spend the right amount of time on the right objectives. No normal player spends hours doing BPM, because non-content makers are limited to what they can invest in the game.
Remember in 17 when everyone was asking for infinite grinds more ways to play a revamps divs system more sbcs especially potms ect we have got all of these over the years and we have more complaints now than then obviously some of these is due to gameplay being worse but i remeber everyone complaining how hard it is to get the best players at the time messi cr7 ramos pogba ect now we are at the points where those type of players are way to easy to get, imo the rtgs were best in 21 u could use promo cards but u would need to grind hard to get the best either by spending being really good or just the long league sbc method, u could also use many golds cards past the 1st few months of the game.
The best and only way this game can move forward is make the promo teams bigger and include more teams from other leagues instead of the top 5 all the time
I think the biggest problem is that mid tier fodder is almost nonexistant. You open so many packs and (maybe it is just me) get nothing in return. I feel like if you dont pack a moster of a card you cant call it a w and especially to pack it tradeable. Its almost impossible. Would love to have it as it was back in fifa 20 when you made small upgrades over time and be proud of your team. Now you can change your team every 3-4 days and it will be equaly good as any. There is no more passion for the game. And we never get promo cards for smaller clubs. I get that halland and mbappe special cards draw more people to open packs but we dont need 30 special cards of one player through the year. I dont know what they should do to fix all of that but that is just how I feel about the game
I think the issue is that everyone is looking to win every game at all costs. Everybody sells the same cards, everybody recommends the same cards. Maybe have a team that is only Team of the week cards, or Squad foundation cards. I probably miss out on a ton of stuff (that I don’t know about) because I don’t like to part with cards I have had for a while. I have some good defenders, so even if Militao didn’t see the field I didn’t want to use him in an SBC. I’ve forced myself to use the tactics of the coach I select, and fill my starting XI according to the roles. Have used a lot of players I would not have otherwise used because sometimes my highest rated players don’t fit the scheme. They may end up on the bench or as reserves. It’s been interesting so far.
@@jmiyagi12345That is an interesting take on the game and I dont disagree with you. I think you kinda missed my point there😂. What I was trying to say is not that I want to play with the most meta cards or win every game. I just like to play with the cards from my team that I support irl and here and there put in some players that I love or loved through the years. I domt care about coins or biggest cards out there, just think that having only one aspect of playing the game implemented by the ea is wrong. Everyone haa their own prefferences on how to play and what they like but ea does not support that.
I just wish you could choose whatever cosmetic your card has previously had. I’d love to have a full red fut champs arsenal team but to do that means not keeping up with the power curve which is so dumb. Just being able to see your evolution path should be a standard imo.
I used to play Fifa/FC a lot but this time, with the changes made and the gameplay still having problems, I just can't find the motivation to play. I've gone back to playing football manager and that fomo I used to get with not completing an objective or not doing an evo has gone.
It’s a lose lose for EA. People said free to play players can’t get good cards or use icons etc… now you can get everyone and be creative with your teams even f2p and people now complain it’s too easy
I played my RTG none stop for the first 2 weeks. Got a team so good that I lost all motivation to continue. I’ve play one weekend league and got the required rivals wins maybe twice. I feel like I’m playing less of this game every year and with the heavy discount already i don’t see why I wouldn’t wait next year to get it cheaper. I’ve moved to playing black ops already this year and am having a lot more fun as all my mates have moved over as well and we haven’t play a cod game in a couple of year consistently. Something with this game needs to change but I don’t know what
I completely agree, especially as im on pc i have a really good team and to try to upgrade my team is actually impossible as the higher tier cards are extinct. so its hard to grind to save coins/fodda when the cards im saving towards might not even be physically obtainable. hope they can sort the issues out and the gameplay. nice vid nep!
Great Video I have been following your RTG and it has been fun. The game is in a weird place right now and while EA are to blame for large parts of the dissatisfaction there is also some personal self-sabotage at play (I don't mean you specifically NEP). The main problem (apart from the broken mechanics) is something found in most games and that is the closer a player gets to the meta the less fun they have. I had the most fun I have had in FC25 this past weekend playing rivals by sand bagging myself in DIV 4 and only using a team consisting of EFL players. FC 25 is a AAA annual game with an unreasonable amount of free to play mechanics. in 10 months, no one will give shit about FC25 so get your fun where you can.
The biggest thing for me that shows ea in a nutshell is moments since release nothing has been added to it you can’t achieve enough stars to get all the packs I have been sat on 21 stars since week 1 if your not going to add to it remove it
The promo cards are hard to pack because they are the only cards with value added to the game and market. Ea is so sickening.., makes me vommit everytime I think about it how they control everything
Nep to be honest teams don’t matter at all. Every weekend I get better players, meta players, elite rivals rewards yet every weekend this fifa has been 10-5. I’ve gotten to the point where teams, formations, etc doesn’t matter at all so the grind feels worthless.
bro, the problem is that the gameplay sucks. even if you have some players that are awesome, the gameplay is boring and slow, so you don't feel like going into a game just to play and destroy the opposition like we used to do back in fifa 17 or 18
People can’t have fun just by playing ultimate team because it’s all about “meta tactics” “meta players” “op mechanics” so someone who’s trying to build a past n present United team, against meta teams it’s never gonna be fun, take me back to FIFA 12 using silver players in division 1 what a time, I’m still using the 10hr trial and it’s just boring I’m not excited anymore, I’ve played 4 division games won 3 loss 1 and I’m still not having fun 😂
The matchmaking mechanic should be based around your selected team. If I choose an all bronze team (or max 78 or whatever) the opponent should be similar. And if you want to allow all opponents, let that be an option. I had to switch to solo opponents only - not playing 1v2 lol.
It’s their own fault for juicing rivals and champs rewards. In the first weekend league, only 1-2 games had elite teams. The rest were bang average. 75x40 is all well and good at the start, but now it’s killed the game.
That's what everyone was complaining about last Yr tho that rewards weren't good enough, u can't complain that they aren't good enough 1 Yr and then complain there too good the next
Ea can't win no matter what they do people used to complain about not enough promos so now they have loads and people complain that the promos are to long or there dead
The rtg's are pretty dead. There is no road to glory anymore because everyone can get sick teams fast but no matter how much we grind gameplay: no fodder, no real upgrades, no pack luck, special cards are impossible to pack, etc.. i play daily, i have done every objective, SB, rivals, literally anyting completed. I dont get any promo card, 1 walkout from aloooot of big packs, no icons or heros, just nothing. They gave us sbc storage for 83 rateds. Last year we got alot of fodder and had to waste it, now we barely get walkouts and there are sooo many fkin sbcs. This game is pretty dead already for f2p. I play 1 club team aswell but outside of Evos, i have no fun. Cant even do past and present because icons and heros are impossiblr to pack and the ones i need are expensive. We need better upgrade sbcs permanently or building your dreamteam as f2p is pretty impossible
TBF I think the menu aspect of the game is better than it's been for a long time. For the first time in forever, I have a bunch of different meta players in my club and I can play with 4-5 different cool teams because the meta cards are so optainable. The gameplay however is so poor that it really doesn't matter. If we had the gameplay of FIFA 23 let's say, with the evos and SBCs of this year, it would probably be my favorite game in 7-8 years. And fifa 23 didn't even have perfect gameplay, it was just quicker and more skillbased. This year is just a slugfest..
Wish they would add some sort of alternative Ultimate Team mode that made it a lot harder to achieve a good team. Its so boring how you can get a high level squad from playing the game for a week with no money spent.
Love it Nep. Spot on. We are caught in the middle, can't afford and never pack big players, every good value SBC like thuram, everyone does so teams feel less unique. Also the inconsistent gameplay, I play the game and never actually feel like I'm getting better, just one step forward, two steps back until I decide it's no longer fun and quit for the year
Made it boring - give you insane amount of packs which gives 99.9% fodder and a ton of coins and so if you’re not doing first owner you all have the same team I’ve done elite 1 squad battles every week, week 1 did the upgrade rival rewards but now just do the 5 win one and always fut champs 8-10 wins and packed one 300k card. It’s impossible to pack the top cards so the price of them is constantly rising as everyone has coins from rewards. This fut champs everyone had Virgil and either started or subbed Adama, nearly everyone has thuram sbc (sissoko next week I assume) no variety Then you have evo restricted by the role ++ it gives most of the time - got a 72 whose missed out on 3 because of his ++ role I don’t care about
I think the easiest way to find the middle ground is reducing promos. Make them every 2-3 weeks. IFs and Gold cards and the other promo cards would rise in price and it would be harder to build that 95% squad BUT this will never happen because EAs making millions every week because of the promos and packs sold because of them...
Another thing is the average person doesn’t get 15/15 wins in higher divisions, like I’m in div 3 I’m not a good player used to get 11/20 wins last champs I would say I’m a average player, but it takes me about 20 plus even 30 games of rivals to get the 15 wins, I’ve only done it once this fifa, work full time stay away on weekend I have football training in the evenings I don’t have time time to get 15 wins not even close to it, and then can play 4 games of rivals and have close games and win 2 and the other 2 didn’t count for anything and there’s a hour gone just like that
I slightly disagree, you get a good team quicker which means team diff matters less and you can play from an even ground and it’s not pay to win. You get rewarded for winning and playing the game more and as a causal player, there’s more than enough games to play with squad battles, rivals, FUT qualifier and then FUT champs. Last week I didn’t have enough time and could barely fit the games to finish champs.
Ea can do so much with evos. I agree with nep that if you're doing a themed rtg rewards are kind of pointless but if we get a 500 k evo or sbcs with 89 90 rated squads that give an evo item with huge boosts it'll make the game more fun and squads more unique
I think you are right. However, your view which I agree with applies to Pro, Semi Pro or just generally decent players who can do 10 or 12 wins in Champs. I only get about 6 hours over a Friday and Saturday night to play. I'm casually OK at the game surfing around Div 5. My team is OK, I've packed some good sales in the SBC's which generated some good coins. I could always do better, so apart from the terrible mechanics and matchmaking from EA, it isn't easy for me. I think there are much bigger problems for EA to tackle.
I mentioned in Reddit "Problem: it's too easy to get a n uber team in FC 24" I got shot down so fast, so fast. here we are barley a month into the game and the same thing. I still believe getting an uber squad should be a grind
@@JanHejn it’s baffling and hilarious how clinical some people are in discussing cards. I saw someone pack a Hero card and casually just say “never see the field, I’ll just sell it for…” and it was some absurd amount. Not a duplicate. And all the discussion is centered around getting rid of cards to get some OP card. To each their own, but I have enjoyed using different players/formations. Otherwise, I would just have one squad with my 20 best players and discard the rest of my cards.
Imo the issue is the market, why would I play a bad game when I can afford a majority of players, excluding the 0.1%. Meaning there is just no reason to play, so the market being so low is the main issue for me.
In the quest for infinite growth, the only customer EA value is the one they don’t have, so I feel FC is geared towards maximising the enjoyment of onboarding casuals. My guess now is they must be reaching their peak player count so it’s now about maximising the gamers spend. There must be a tipping point where EA know those that play 0-5 hours a week don’t buy any micro transactions, those that play 6-10 hours do, and those that play 11+ hours a week don’t spend any extra money and make lots of (valid) complaints. EA’s goal is probably to increase the number of players in that spending zone and limiting your gameplay might be an effective way of doing that. Sucks, but that’s capitalism.
I can’t see them ever changing it due to how much money they make but it’d be nice if they did more with the live objectives - give good rewards for doing it and make requirements that let us use the weaker cards without playing a god squad One nation was a good start although everyone now has a meta French squad but more stuff like that would be nice that let us use more obscure cards.
i've got 3 accounts for fifa, my main account, and 2 themed RTG's, i barely touch those 2 because EVO's are so crucial to them, whats the point in playing for rewards for them to mean nothing ?
'Rtgs' have been catered to the 'casual' players who aren't the main player base who should be the main focus of any company. The should make it harder to get good players and teams something that can be worked towards throughout the game cycle the same as the likes of COD have some insane requirements to unlock certain attachments or camos. EAFC is on its way to be dead before toty. The game is so focused on rewarding casual players and driving people to spending money as the majority of everything is untradeable
I think for evos especcially for ones with lots of bronzes payed evos should be a different price depending on what rating it ends on for example if i evo a 60 rated to 65 that should be about 5 to 15k
I’ve been watching your content for about 34 years. You procrastinate a lot about your RTG. Why don’t you just have two separate channels your RTG and then your main account playing with all the great players?
I was so excited to play WL with my new team and it was just crap because no one is playing anymore. Rivals points is too much now and combine that with squad battles champs qualies and the fact the game is in a crap state and all packs you open offer nothing it’s becoming depressing to enjoy this game I spent nearly £100 on. I feel you nep.
COOP CHAMPS IS THE SINGLE BIGGEST THING I WANT THEM TO ADD, BUT THEY’VE HAD 4 YEARS TO DO IT AND HAVEN’T. SO ITS PROBABLY NEVER COMING. YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD THOUGH NEP, GAME IS BORING PLAYING SOLO!
Youre spot on about it all. Its the gameplay loop that youre describing and youre dead on. I often play for an hour or two then sort of think, theres literally nothing i can do in this game to make my team better or to make the game fun. What this all goes back to is the gameplay isnt fun enough anymore. If it was enjoyable to play, the content side of things would be supplementary, but its the main thing because gameplay is depressingly bad most of the time.
Bateson, Castro and content creators like them are the reason this game is dead. They spend unlimited funds and have simply killed people who enjoy an RTG team
I think your problem is you view everything through the lens of a hard-core player. For people who play other games or don't play every day the squad building aspect has improved drastically over the recent years
Well said mate nep won’t even read your comment coz he’s a self indulgent horrible man he’s just spewing a narrative he earns thousands a week to regurgitate the same shite content & then blames the game. Don’t get me wrong the game is shite but nep is a just a wanker😂
Facts
Straight facts.
Well said
I’m definitely not a hard core player I’m in Div 6 but can easily get to Div 2 and I fully agree w him
For me, the fact that you can get an amazing team without spending money is awesome and the variety of teams that you can build now is awesome especially with evos. The problem I have is the gameplay is so unenjoyable. It’s a heavy sweaty mess and you can’t keep up unless you use the meta cards.
i agree with you here, i actually think FC 25 is decent, didnt rate 24 at all but this one aint bad, got a fairly decent squad. But trying to compete in just rivals let alone champs is a sweatfest and its not enjoyable at all
This is absolutely spot on
You are correct but unfortunately what you are describing isn't a game issue that can be fixed. It's a community issue, everyone is so obsessed with winning and rewards that they would rather be winning and bored (and ultimately disappointed once they open their rewards no doubt) than actually having fun and building fun teams with their favorite IRL players or players from their supported club/nation.
One thing I miss so much is the slow but constant upgrading you could do to your squad back in the day. For the first two months of the game each rivals and champs reward would allow you make an upgrade to the team. Sometimes smaller like going from a Bellerin to a Valencia and sometimes something big. Whatever it was there was a much better sense of constant improvement where as now it feels stagnant so fast
I agree with what you’re saying I think having a new promo every week has affected it in a bad direction I don’t know if people would agree with me on this but I remember saving my rivals rewards sometimes for a couple of weeks for the chance of a bigger upgrade I think flooding the market with hundreds of cards that are basically the same just with a different face on has cause this 95% to the 100% issue bro talks about
I remember how important monthly rewards were and they were just informs 😂 if you came up against someone with good monthly you knew you were in for a game
@@brendengoldsmith860 The promo cards & ridiculous amount of packs has been a HUGE part of why gameplay is the way it is.
Imagine how boring football games would be, irl, if every player was Messi level. It would make the actual Messi worthless; well it’s exactly the same in game as irl…
The day they added untradeables was the day RTGs died for me. 99% of teams are full untradeable, kills the market for your average card. I miss the days where you only got coins from playing the game and getting promoted in divisions, and average cards like 79 David Luiz or 81 Sturridge were over 10k - you really had to grind playing the game to upgrade your team, nowadays you get a sick team from barely any menu grinding
literally spot on, the fact that they will never go back to this is so depressing, i miss packing a 79-82 rated card and selling it for 10-15k and grinding for a upgrade
I agree with you on a lot of things with this game, but EA FC/FIFA is honestly the first game where i feel like the biggest problem is not the company, but the player base. EA make tons of mistakes, but so many things are just not fixable because the player base ruins it themselves.
Rush/Friendlies: -rubberbanding just to do objectives, no one ACTUALLY wants to play, everyone just tries to waste the least time of their day to get the rewards
Champs/Rivals: -No one wants to find their own tactics and playstyle and play good football, everyone just copies the pros, learns how to kick off glitch and corner glitch and what not - just to get the best rewards and sell any player they pack to get the best meta players that everyone is using
People always say "well then EA should patch kick off, 5ATB, corners, Trivelas etc"... BUT IT DOES NOT MATTER, if they fix it, something else will be overpowered and one or two days post patch Team Gullit will make a tiktok about it and everyone abuses the new broken mechanics again.
When it comes to RTGs, its not "too easy", but i realized this weekend how many people actually spend loads of money on FIFA points... i played a few players with 5m+ teams which were not first owner, so unless they packed a Dinho or R9, those were P2W accounts and once again, the community is just too willing to spend money, because they are too lazy to grind RTG accounts.
For me, I find a coach I want and then stick to their tactics/roles. I force myself to use only players with + or ++ roles in my starting XI, then fill the Ben h and reserves with best available by position group.
I am probably missing out but all those green cards (Squad something or other) I don’t get rid of. Only special cards I get rid of in SBCs are the TOTW because they are requirements.
Wish the matchmaking was a little better - maybe lock in your squad first and search similar tiered squads (by value perhaps?). Winning in Rivals is a slog for me, so I only do Evos wheee the goal is to play Rivals, not win them lol. If it’s any other like the Friendlies, Rush, or EVO Arena I don’t even bother.
Didn’t play it last year (got the game in March) but I have been having a blast this year.
I completely agree with you! This playerbase has gotten used to thinking spending money is the normal way to play. It's becoming like NBA2K. The proplayer tactics copying has been the main reason for me to almost quit the game. Every single game is 442 with the same pro player tactics with 8/11 of the same players used.
The problem with Rush is that the rewards are the exact same every week. They should be updated with player picks, players, and better packs.
They need to do something about the afk players as well, there like 2/3 in every game, even if it’s not your own team it just ruins the game
As a div 5 player rush is by far the best rewards I even have access to lol.
Why did they get rid of the full 20 team (or however many teams were in that league) league sbcs with the promo player as the group reward? It gave value to pretty much all players and it was good fun. I remember fifa 17 getting an 87 Lacazette from the Ligue 1 sbc. Now look at these ‘league sbcs’ in comparison. 8 years later and significantly worse and boring. So sad
They removed them just because of how the game has changeed a high rated card would be pointless for a league sbc nowadays due to promos imo fifa21 had the same style of leagues sbcs has u had to use the same league but it gave the new style of the games with the amount of packs
because it allowed people to make coins organically without spending money on fifa points. As Nep said, people could grind and make money through either completing the SBCs, or selling the players. Now there is little to no way of making coins without buying packs.
Forget West Brom and Cheltenham, I'm a Walsall fan. We've got 2 silvers and the rest all bronze. Theres currently 2 Evo's available to me to put a Walsall player in. I cant even do the goal crazy Evo as none of the bronzes have the minimum shooting requirement 😭
We had a player last year score a hat-trick and an assist in a 4-0 win, never got a look in for an IF. Imagine an 80 rated IF for a team like ours? It'd be something to actually get hyped about when running an RTG.
They should put 2 Evo's up that you could do say twice a week. A bronze one and a silver one. No requirements and just gives a simple +1 or whatever.
Giving up on it already and gonna just run the main account.
Always said they should do a bronze and silver totw that focuses more on the lower leagues
Yeah they need to be releasing MULTIPLE bronze evos for you lads every other day for different positions, it ain’t hard and it ain’t gonna affect anyone in the slightest apart from boost your low low rated teams. Luckily my evo team start off gold below 79 rated for all of them
@@standard2057 they actually make more money as well, when I don’t have the coins for a good Evo, I’ve put some FP on my account, I’d never touch them for store packs. There’s surely a lot of people that do the same as well
Should do champs requirements like at least 1 bronze or silver on the pitch for the full 90
@@immortalreaper8389 or just make a champs for during the week that has different requirements every week, means you’ll have to use different players and see different teams. People will say it’s a lot of games, but you don’t HAVE to play every single mode
Nep i’m gonna say this as a long time subscriber and fan of you and your content…I was so turned off to fifa youtube and your content and really just fifa in general a couple years ago but as an arsenal fan and someone who is not the best at the game i really really enjoy this series. I think this is the best content you’ve made in a while and the fact that you are just using the players you like is really what ultimate team is all about. Stay patient with this account I think a lot of people are really enjoying this and are upgrading their team at the same pace. I don’t care if the team doesn’t change from episode to episode i will still watch every episode as long as you keep playing the game how you want to play it and not how everyone else wants you to play it. Keep on pushing and Let’s Go Gunners!!
I think the big issue is that there is no middle tier market. There is build a 100k squad or build a 1 mil coin squad and the only difference of that squad is one player. And then it’s a grind to get more players like that one player you swapped like there’s 2 gold cards over a mil Vini and Mbappe. Every other gold cards is 500k or less but they’re cheap cause they’re not super meta they’re just average
Fr, every champs team you play now has the exact same overpowered defenders and I don’t have a problem going up against the cards. The part that gets me is you have to worry about op goalie rushes, and goalie movement and the defenders are already hard enough to break down as it is. It’s straight up unenjoyable.
The grind pleases the human mind... we lost that, it's way too easy now. I remember in FIFA 13 I saved up after playing for weeks to finally buy Falcao for like 60k, he was 89 rated and it took me weeks and the excitement when I could finally get him was amazing, now I can get a player like that in a couple days...
That Falcao card was deadly in fifa 13
Well what is the point of the game? Is it to play with players you like or just getting them? People seem to play for rewards not for gameplay
Years ago my favorite thing ever to watch was AirJapes path to power. The way he would always list his whole team up at the end of the episode to make a profit and then buy a new team for the next episode was always so cool
My problem with the game is I don’t understand why every player I match with uses the same team. It’s obvious part of the fun is using new players / players you like / sentimental players. Instead everyone just going for meta for wins to pack those same players they bought with money 🤷🏻♂️
Think this might be the first year I don't get the game, if I do it'll be when it's much lower in price. I used to pre order the game every year, then since Fifa 19/20 I waited until Black Friday sales, now this year I don't think it's worth buying a game that causes more stress than fun.
I agree, RTGs are dead. Most TH-camrs RTGs are million coin teams. The best RTGs ever were SpencerFC's. He made each episode fun and special. Loved them
Add self imposed rules and rewards, add cross over events with other TH-cam RTGs or fans. Add negative consequences for certain events like a discard or a downgrade. Be creative, which I think almost RTGs are not.
The biggest issue with FUT is how the amount of fun you have directly correlates to if you win games or pack good players. I can play COD for 3 hours and not even notice whether I win or lose, I’m just focused on playing well and trying different guns/ drinking camos etc
I have been grinding a Canada team and I've been grinding to get all the evos done. I play every night and I still haven't maxed out the team yet. I'm enjoying this RTG. I used to do Italian teams but now i can do a lower team like Canada and still get some decent players. Not every evo is for me but there are lots. I am having fun going from a 67 rated squad to an 80 rated squad. Arsenal is a stacked team and I guess its too easy which is why I didn't pick Italy for my RTG. cheers.
I agree with you but the problem I run into a lot is that I evo my low tier players and end up with a card that is 80-85 rated with 65 stamina and that is already reason to not use the card because you have to take it out at halftime
I agree. I've been working on a Japan/Korea first owner "poor man" RTG and whilst it's undoubtedly going to be easier than a Canadian one, it's been great fun so far. Finally packed a Kaoru Mitoma yesterday and it's the happiest I think I've ever been to pack an 81-rated gold rare player over a month into the game cycle :D
@@filipfico4449i have subbed out zero players this year and havent had much of a problem. Using players who arent great in every way is part of the challenge.
@@SuperKMxyea and Im saving my coins and fodder cuz i dont gotta buy lots of players. Dont have to play any game mode for coins just play what i want when i want. Its way more fun this way.
I still manage to do a Blackburn past and present RTG and I’m loving it and yeah I might not be able to use RTG mbappes or even a saka but I get to use my favourite players irl in the game to the point where anything I pack is just fodder 🤣🤣🤣
I miss the days where it was “score a goal = open a 7.5k pack”
That’s just impossible now
I disagree with the "RTGs are dead" line. I agree that, in terms of a TH-cam series where you used to have to grind for a decent team, that's gone, but for the more casual player (such as myself), it improves year on year. Without having to spend any money, or invest a crazy amount of time, I can now get a really nice team, get some good evo'd players from my favourite team, and compete in rivals (and occasionally champs) with a half-decent team. Whilst it's less of a standard, year-long TH-cam series now, I think RTGs are better than ever :)
I understand the sentiments and I think most on here will just attack ea (in the comments)
But tbf to them it’s what we asked for, for years…. We always did menu grinding and yourself and others always asked for a reason to play the game. Give us packs for games etc. The more they’ve done that the more we complain it’s too easy..
I think for EA they probably feel like they can’t win with the community. Ps love your stuff and hopefully see this and would like your thoughts.
Just make less untraceable packs then it may help and less promo teams. Give 2-3 weeks to grind to players rather than get a player and a week later they are already worthless
@@Jaxxx365 the very odd occasion they don’t have a promo team in packs, the whole community goes crazy online, I don’t see a way in which they can go back from it now. Plus so promo team means no store packs are bought
@@lewisw14 I agree, as soon as no promo people will say game is dead etc
@@Jaxxx365 I remember for years folk like nep saying give us packs (even untradeables) just for playing the game which we now get but it’s turning more hardcore folk away. As I think sales are at a record high?
@@pawpatrol67 they did a silver objective week a couple year back (I actually liked this btw) and I couldn’t believe how much hate it got online, probably puts them off trying to do anything different again
esports ranks competitive play ruined gaming industry every game has this problem "meta" kills the fun in games
Another thing I don't think EA realise is that by giving everyone those 95% teams within the first month, it kills anyone's interest in the longevity of the game.
I'm personally on PC, and have a very strong team with some spare coins, however those 'top-tier' meta players that I would have to purchase to improve my team cost millions upon millions of coins. The best in the game are practically extinct (due to the hacker issue I know). So what am I meant to do now?
I think you punish yourself by trying to pack all the players. I don’t know if you are still in contact with some of the F8tal players, but Raoul had a fun series called Pokefifa where he put personal objectives on upgrading his players. Maybe this is a way you can do your RTG. Like score 10 goals before I can put a player in the evo, where you show the progress during the video. Currently, we as the viewers don’t benefit/enjoy you just opening packs until you finally pack the player you want to evo
I’m personally really enjoying my England RTG. It’s likely the reason I’m still playing this game and not playing something else.
It's something that's almost impossible to fix now. It's more the player bases fault than EAs because of the constant demand for content and the constant willingness to part with their money on FC points.
For me personally I'd love for EA to come out next year and say they're going back to basics and slowing the progression way down by reducing SBCs, objectives, rewards etc. It will never happen though as loads of the current player base will leave taking their £££ with them. Only other thing they can do is offset the volume of content by reducing the starting ratings of all the cards. That way the option to be constantly upgrading your team is there again and people aren't running around with 90+ cards a month into the game cycle
As much as I get all you points here as a casual player who only gets to play for a few hours after work a few days a week it does really improve the replayability because I feel like I can consistently improve my team without having to spend money.
I slightly disagree. This year i have an RTG based around 3 marque players that i have enjoyed over the years (Benteke, Embolo and Renato Sanches) yes its hard to get a good champs result at the moment. But i much rather play with players i enjoy and an average team than with a full meta team that looks exactly like everyo ones elses team. Im currentry in Div 2 and the feeling you get every time you beat a full meta team is worth the struggels
This game is the least "fun" I've ever experienced on any video game
Horrid gameplay bs meta shit every game zero skill dumb mechanics
Menu grind stinks
Rewards absolutely stink for most part
It's just unenjoyable crap this year and it's October
maybe the title should be "The Disappointing Downfall of FIFA"
I’ve officially moved on to black ops6
@@obflowsdon’t be a dick mate. This games done
@@obflows brother if only you knew how much I’ve spent this year alone.
There’s so many good single player games out there, don’t waste your time with shite like fifa and call of duty.
Hahaha😂hahaha😂
@@lewis120 can you give names?
I have an England team. I'm looking to evo as many as I can. I don't care how many games I lose anymore, just want to have fun in D3-2. I'm way older now too, I made a conscious decision not to spend on the game this year just feeling the pain of coins left once again in the previous Fifa of 24. I'm much more content in my Fifa life now 👍
For me as a casual player who plays minimal during the week and a couple hours in the weekend, this is very good. I can enjoy a decent team without having to put in too many hours.
I unistalled - I did icon pack last week and got Kluivert. Did the 88 icon pack (put club in the mud) and got Kluivert again duplicate - :|
"Just grind League SBCs and bronze pack method for 15 hours a day like me" - Nepenthez (2017)
For the casual player like myself in terms of ultimate team this is the best it's been in years, for hard core everyday players this probably isn't the case, but the casual players make the majority.
I think one of the biggest issues over the last 2-3 FIFA games (FIFA23, EAFC24 and EAFC25) is that there is no creativity in special cards. They're always releasing the same players over and over again. So unless you've had amazing pack luck, most RTGs will heavily rely on SBC/OBJ players. It feels like until Jan/Feb we're always building similar teams cause it's always the same players getting promos.
If a content creator says it is too grindy then a "normal" gamer should realize that there are more important things in life than grinding packs...
You know when I started having fun on this game - when I uninstalled it! Give yourself a mental health check for a week and you will feel the benefit. Play something else - have a holiday.
It’s absolutely crazy to think nep and other u tubers can discuss issues with eafc and find pretty easy solutions for the problem but yet multimillion company and there staff can’t fix the issues imagine they go through all fifa eafc from like say 17 to 25 and pick certain things combine them in to a game omg would be best game ever
I'm convinced the people who make the game never actually play it or have never grinded a ultamite team ever
I can only play like 1-2 hours at night if I am lucky, I like that i can get a great team without having to pour my whole life into it.
I think where your problem lies is your obsession with evolutions.
I prefer Squad battle rewards out of any other rewards because they’re tradable
I think the content creator who has the most "fun" is Zwe. He always looks likes he's having a quality time. I've settled for a hybrid of my favourite club evos and using some strong players in key areas. I have 900k and my team is untradable and I am enjoying using the evos I have. What is stopping EA from making promo teams larger as well to include those smaller clubs that people support. Why are promo teams so small? I'm not saying they need to be 89 rated top tier but even having the low 85 rated Portsmouth player would be amazing in a promo team.
Because they only care about making money sadly
Jack's right all they care about is money it's why every year you will see basically the same players or the same clubs getting promo cards you might get a few objective cards that are totally different but that's about it
Poor take I think Nep. Look at how Zwe and how he plays RTG...builds cheap fun squads with plenty of grindable sbc cards and it’s a changing landscape. It’s because you’ve cornered yourself into a little niche that you’re bored.
Perhaps you need to create a regular RTG nep. Move the Arsenal RTG to one like the crappers
You were talking about stats I do wish at the end of the year they gave you a club overall breakdown with every player you’ve used with games goals and assists forgotten so many great players I had on fifa
Just play the game how you want to, stop making rules for yourself. A relatable rtg would be that of a person who can play maybe 3-4 hours a day
Have you considered a time limited RTG? 2 hours per day max Monday - Friday, 4 hours per day max Saturday to Sunday.
You play 8+ hours per day, most days. It’s not realistic for the average player to play that amount and not what the game is built for. Restricting your game time would ensure you spend the right amount of time on the right objectives. No normal player spends hours doing BPM, because non-content makers are limited to what they can invest in the game.
Bring back the days of poverty from Fifa 09-12
Remember in 17 when everyone was asking for infinite grinds more ways to play a revamps divs system more sbcs especially potms ect we have got all of these over the years and we have more complaints now than then obviously some of these is due to gameplay being worse but i remeber everyone complaining how hard it is to get the best players at the time messi cr7 ramos pogba ect now we are at the points where those type of players are way to easy to get, imo the rtgs were best in 21 u could use promo cards but u would need to grind hard to get the best either by spending being really good or just the long league sbc method, u could also use many golds cards past the 1st few months of the game.
The best and only way this game can move forward is make the promo teams bigger and include more teams from other leagues instead of the top 5 all the time
I think the biggest problem is that mid tier fodder is almost nonexistant. You open so many packs and (maybe it is just me) get nothing in return. I feel like if you dont pack a moster of a card you cant call it a w and especially to pack it tradeable. Its almost impossible. Would love to have it as it was back in fifa 20 when you made small upgrades over time and be proud of your team. Now you can change your team every 3-4 days and it will be equaly good as any. There is no more passion for the game. And we never get promo cards for smaller clubs. I get that halland and mbappe special cards draw more people to open packs but we dont need 30 special cards of one player through the year. I dont know what they should do to fix all of that but that is just how I feel about the game
I think the issue is that everyone is looking to win every game at all costs. Everybody sells the same cards, everybody recommends the same cards. Maybe have a team that is only Team of the week cards, or Squad foundation cards. I probably miss out on a ton of stuff (that I don’t know about) because I don’t like to part with cards I have had for a while. I have some good defenders, so even if Militao didn’t see the field I didn’t want to use him in an SBC.
I’ve forced myself to use the tactics of the coach I select, and fill my starting XI according to the roles. Have used a lot of players I would not have otherwise used because sometimes my highest rated players don’t fit the scheme. They may end up on the bench or as reserves. It’s been interesting so far.
@@jmiyagi12345That is an interesting take on the game and I dont disagree with you. I think you kinda missed my point there😂. What I was trying to say is not that I want to play with the most meta cards or win every game. I just like to play with the cards from my team that I support irl and here and there put in some players that I love or loved through the years. I domt care about coins or biggest cards out there, just think that having only one aspect of playing the game implemented by the ea is wrong. Everyone haa their own prefferences on how to play and what they like but ea does not support that.
I just wish you could choose whatever cosmetic your card has previously had. I’d love to have a full red fut champs arsenal team but to do that means not keeping up with the power curve which is so dumb. Just being able to see your evolution path should be a standard imo.
Far too many promos nowadays bring back the days when you could batter an 87 rated gold and inform team with a silver team
I used to play Fifa/FC a lot but this time, with the changes made and the gameplay still having problems, I just can't find the motivation to play.
I've gone back to playing football manager and that fomo I used to get with not completing an objective or not doing an evo has gone.
I agree, I was excited to start my RTG series this year but after a week it's at a standstill and I'm doing 3 teams..
It’s a lose lose for EA. People said free to play players can’t get good cards or use icons etc… now you can get everyone and be creative with your teams even f2p and people now complain it’s too easy
I played my RTG none stop for the first 2 weeks. Got a team so good that I lost all motivation to continue. I’ve play one weekend league and got the required rivals wins maybe twice. I feel like I’m playing less of this game every year and with the heavy discount already i don’t see why I wouldn’t wait next year to get it cheaper. I’ve moved to playing black ops already this year and am having a lot more fun as all my mates have moved over as well and we haven’t play a cod game in a couple of year consistently. Something with this game needs to change but I don’t know what
I completely agree, especially as im on pc i have a really good team and to try to upgrade my team is actually impossible as the higher tier cards are extinct. so its hard to grind to save coins/fodda when the cards im saving towards might not even be physically obtainable. hope they can sort the issues out and the gameplay. nice vid nep!
Great Video I have been following your RTG and it has been fun. The game is in a weird place right now and while EA are to blame for large parts of the dissatisfaction there is also some personal self-sabotage at play (I don't mean you specifically NEP). The main problem (apart from the broken mechanics) is something found in most games and that is the closer a player gets to the meta the less fun they have. I had the most fun I have had in FC25 this past weekend playing rivals by sand bagging myself in DIV 4 and only using a team consisting of EFL players. FC 25 is a AAA annual game with an unreasonable amount of free to play mechanics. in 10 months, no one will give shit about FC25 so get your fun where you can.
The biggest thing for me that shows ea in a nutshell is moments since release nothing has been added to it you can’t achieve enough stars to get all the packs I have been sat on 21 stars since week 1 if your not going to add to it remove it
The promo cards are hard to pack because they are the only cards with value added to the game and market. Ea is so sickening.., makes me vommit everytime I think about it how they control everything
In my eyes it feels like there's too many untradable rewards and too many promos these days
Nep to be honest teams don’t matter at all. Every weekend I get better players, meta players, elite rivals rewards yet every weekend this fifa has been 10-5. I’ve gotten to the point where teams, formations, etc doesn’t matter at all so the grind feels worthless.
bro, the problem is that the gameplay sucks. even if you have some players that are awesome, the gameplay is boring and slow, so you don't feel like going into a game just to play and destroy the opposition like we used to do back in fifa 17 or 18
People can’t have fun just by playing ultimate team because it’s all about “meta tactics” “meta players” “op mechanics” so someone who’s trying to build a past n present United team, against meta teams it’s never gonna be fun, take me back to FIFA 12 using silver players in division 1 what a time, I’m still using the 10hr trial and it’s just boring I’m not excited anymore, I’ve played 4 division games won 3 loss 1 and I’m still not having fun 😂
The matchmaking mechanic should be based around your selected team. If I choose an all bronze team (or max 78 or whatever) the opponent should be similar. And if you want to allow all opponents, let that be an option. I had to switch to solo opponents only - not playing 1v2 lol.
It’s their own fault for juicing rivals and champs rewards. In the first weekend league, only 1-2 games had elite teams. The rest were bang average. 75x40 is all well and good at the start, but now it’s killed the game.
That's what everyone was complaining about last Yr tho that rewards weren't good enough, u can't complain that they aren't good enough 1 Yr and then complain there too good the next
@ never complained they weren’t good enough mate
@freddiegass6961 well you are the 1% if you watch anything from last Yr it was all anyone talked about
Ea can't win no matter what they do people used to complain about not enough promos so now they have loads and people complain that the promos are to long or there dead
The rtg's are pretty dead. There is no road to glory anymore because everyone can get sick teams fast but no matter how much we grind gameplay: no fodder, no real upgrades, no pack luck, special cards are impossible to pack, etc.. i play daily, i have done every objective, SB, rivals, literally anyting completed. I dont get any promo card, 1 walkout from aloooot of big packs, no icons or heros, just nothing. They gave us sbc storage for 83 rateds. Last year we got alot of fodder and had to waste it, now we barely get walkouts and there are sooo many fkin sbcs. This game is pretty dead already for f2p. I play 1 club team aswell but outside of Evos, i have no fun. Cant even do past and present because icons and heros are impossiblr to pack and the ones i need are expensive. We need better upgrade sbcs permanently or building your dreamteam as f2p is pretty impossible
Enjoyed the rant! Would love more of this ruminations on the game
TBF I think the menu aspect of the game is better than it's been for a long time. For the first time in forever, I have a bunch of different meta players in my club and I can play with 4-5 different cool teams because the meta cards are so optainable. The gameplay however is so poor that it really doesn't matter. If we had the gameplay of FIFA 23 let's say, with the evos and SBCs of this year, it would probably be my favorite game in 7-8 years. And fifa 23 didn't even have perfect gameplay, it was just quicker and more skillbased. This year is just a slugfest..
EA want to kill RTGs, pack weight in store packs are significantly better than the pack weight of untradeable rewards.
Ever since fc 24 ultimate team is dead before Christmas it feels like it’s July
Wish they would add some sort of alternative Ultimate Team mode that made it a lot harder to achieve a good team. Its so boring how you can get a high level squad from playing the game for a week with no money spent.
Love it Nep. Spot on. We are caught in the middle, can't afford and never pack big players, every good value SBC like thuram, everyone does so teams feel less unique. Also the inconsistent gameplay, I play the game and never actually feel like I'm getting better, just one step forward, two steps back until I decide it's no longer fun and quit for the year
Made it boring - give you insane amount of packs which gives 99.9% fodder and a ton of coins and so if you’re not doing first owner you all have the same team
I’ve done elite 1 squad battles every week, week 1 did the upgrade rival rewards but now just do the 5 win one and always fut champs 8-10 wins and packed one 300k card. It’s impossible to pack the top cards so the price of them is constantly rising as everyone has coins from rewards.
This fut champs everyone had Virgil and either started or subbed Adama, nearly everyone has thuram sbc (sissoko next week I assume) no variety
Then you have evo restricted by the role ++ it gives most of the time - got a 72 whose missed out on 3 because of his ++ role I don’t care about
I think the easiest way to find the middle ground is reducing promos. Make them every 2-3 weeks. IFs and Gold cards and the other promo cards would rise in price and it would be harder to build that 95% squad BUT this will never happen because EAs making millions every week because of the promos and packs sold because of them...
You should change this Arsenal RTG,with a proper one,with players from other leagues too.
Another thing is the average person doesn’t get 15/15 wins in higher divisions, like I’m in div 3 I’m not a good player used to get 11/20 wins last champs I would say I’m a average player, but it takes me about 20 plus even 30 games of rivals to get the 15 wins, I’ve only done it once this fifa, work full time stay away on weekend I have football training in the evenings I don’t have time time to get 15 wins not even close to it, and then can play 4 games of rivals and have close games and win 2 and the other 2 didn’t count for anything and there’s a hour gone just like that
I am not sure why EA dont include good Evo options as part of the rewards.
I slightly disagree, you get a good team quicker which means team diff matters less and you can play from an even ground and it’s not pay to win. You get rewarded for winning and playing the game more and as a causal player, there’s more than enough games to play with squad battles, rivals, FUT qualifier and then FUT champs. Last week I didn’t have enough time and could barely fit the games to finish champs.
I agree with you. I watched some of your FIFA17 RTG 1-2 weeks ago, and you genuinely seemed happier - and I really think it has to do with the game...
After 24 i didnt even bother buying 25 and i have played for decades... ea is all about money...
Ea can do so much with evos. I agree with nep that if you're doing a themed rtg rewards are kind of pointless but if we get a 500 k evo or sbcs with 89 90 rated squads that give an evo item with huge boosts it'll make the game more fun and squads more unique
I think you are right. However, your view which I agree with applies to Pro, Semi Pro or just generally decent players who can do 10 or 12 wins in Champs. I only get about 6 hours over a Friday and Saturday night to play. I'm casually OK at the game surfing around Div 5. My team is OK, I've packed some good sales in the SBC's which generated some good coins. I could always do better, so apart from the terrible mechanics and matchmaking from EA, it isn't easy for me. I think there are much bigger problems for EA to tackle.
I mentioned in Reddit "Problem: it's too easy to get a n uber team in FC 24" I got shot down so fast, so fast. here we are barley a month into the game and the same thing. I still believe getting an uber squad should be a grind
I am not sure why it should be grind. I thought the point is to play with cards not just get them
@@JanHejn it’s baffling and hilarious how clinical some people are in discussing cards. I saw someone pack a Hero card and casually just say “never see the field, I’ll just sell it for…” and it was some absurd amount. Not a duplicate. And all the discussion is centered around getting rid of cards to get some OP card. To each their own, but I have enjoyed using different players/formations. Otherwise, I would just have one squad with my 20 best players and discard the rest of my cards.
Imo the issue is the market, why would I play a bad game when I can afford a majority of players, excluding the 0.1%. Meaning there is just no reason to play, so the market being so low is the main issue for me.
If they are untradeable, just discard them for no coins. Grind the way you want.
In the quest for infinite growth, the only customer EA value is the one they don’t have, so I feel FC is geared towards maximising the enjoyment of onboarding casuals. My guess now is they must be reaching their peak player count so it’s now about maximising the gamers spend. There must be a tipping point where EA know those that play 0-5 hours a week don’t buy any micro transactions, those that play 6-10 hours do, and those that play 11+ hours a week don’t spend any extra money and make lots of (valid) complaints. EA’s goal is probably to increase the number of players in that spending zone and limiting your gameplay might be an effective way of doing that. Sucks, but that’s capitalism.
I think the crappers rtg is the best rtg to do at this point. Cause there is actually a challenge and way more fun to watch
I can’t see them ever changing it due to how much money they make but it’d be nice if they did more with the live objectives - give good rewards for doing it and make requirements that let us use the weaker cards without playing a god squad
One nation was a good start although everyone now has a meta French squad but more stuff like that would be nice that let us use more obscure cards.
i've got 3 accounts for fifa, my main account, and 2 themed RTG's, i barely touch those 2 because EVO's are so crucial to them, whats the point in playing for rewards for them to mean nothing ?
You know what, I used to do the same thing. But there no way I getting 15 wins on each account
'Rtgs' have been catered to the 'casual' players who aren't the main player base who should be the main focus of any company. The should make it harder to get good players and teams something that can be worked towards throughout the game cycle the same as the likes of COD have some insane requirements to unlock certain attachments or camos. EAFC is on its way to be dead before toty. The game is so focused on rewarding casual players and driving people to spending money as the majority of everything is untradeable
Casuals outnumber the hardcore players. If we are looking to segregate them, have casuals only play casuals and hardcore only play hardcores.
I think for evos especcially for ones with lots of bronzes payed evos should be a different price depending on what rating it ends on for example if i evo a 60 rated to 65 that should be about 5 to 15k
I’ve been watching your content for about 34 years. You procrastinate a lot about your RTG. Why don’t you just have two separate channels your RTG and then your main account playing with all the great players?
I was so excited to play WL with my new team and it was just crap because no one is playing anymore. Rivals points is too much now and combine that with squad battles champs qualies and the fact the game is in a crap state and all packs you open offer nothing it’s becoming depressing to enjoy this game I spent nearly £100 on. I feel you nep.
COOP CHAMPS IS THE SINGLE BIGGEST THING I WANT THEM TO ADD, BUT THEY’VE HAD 4 YEARS TO DO IT AND HAVEN’T. SO ITS PROBABLY NEVER COMING. YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD THOUGH NEP, GAME IS BORING PLAYING SOLO!
Youre spot on about it all. Its the gameplay loop that youre describing and youre dead on. I often play for an hour or two then sort of think, theres literally nothing i can do in this game to make my team better or to make the game fun.
What this all goes back to is the gameplay isnt fun enough anymore. If it was enjoyable to play, the content side of things would be supplementary, but its the main thing because gameplay is depressingly bad most of the time.
Bateson, Castro and content creators like them are the reason this game is dead. They spend unlimited funds and have simply killed people who enjoy an RTG team